Printable View
As per title. I feel like my body can handle it, I'm giving each muscle group 48 hours rest, eating at a surplus etc. I just feel like rest days aren't needed because lately I haven't felt exhausted or burnt out at all.
My lifestyle is very light, I'm on a gap year between high school and uni so I'm pretty much at home lazing around all day. I've been training since Febuary last year so approaching the 2 year mark.
Is this a problem? Will it be detrimental to my progress?
Even if you were on steroids it would be detrimental to your progress. Post up your current workout and diet plan and lets take a look at it...then i will be able to help you more.
Also, what are your goals?
[QUOTE=travisjw;964196763]Even if you were on steroids it would be detrimental to your progress. Post up your current workout and diet plan and lets take a look at it...then i will be able to help you more.
Also, what are your goals?[/QUOTE]
Back/Biceps -
3 x 8 lat pulldown
2 x failure wide chinups
3 x 10 t-bar row
2 x 8 bent row
3 x 10 dumbbell shrugs
3 x 12 alternating curls on an incline bench
2 x 10 preacher curls
Chest/Triceps -
3 x 12 Incline dumbbell press
3 x 10 Decline bench
5 x 12 flies (assorted variation)
2 x failure chest dips
3 x 10 overhead tricep extension
3 x 12 underhand tricep pushdown
Shoulders/Calves -
4 x 6-8 OHP
2 x 10 lateral raises
3 x 8 front raises
3 x 10 facepulls
calf raises until I cant walk
Legs -
4 x 6-8 squats
2 x 8 stiff leg deadlifts
2 x 15 leg extension
2 x 15 leg curls
Chest #2 -
3 x 8 incline bench
3 x 10 seated flies
2 x 10 cable flies
Then repeat.
My diet I'm eating 3k cals, I used the long guide in the nutrition section to calculate macros and micros.
Taking fish oil + multi + creatine
I work in about 55-75% 1RM, i never take microbreaks (like locking out at the top of a movement for a second) im keeping the muscles under tension the entire time, very slow decline. my mind muscle connection is good, i always feel the muscle working and contracting.
I train 7 days a week and I'm an old phuck I say if you're not burning out go for it
At that volume, I don't think you will last long. 1 month tops.
[QUOTE=Adrian77;964254173]At that volume, I don't think you will last long. 1 month tops.[/QUOTE]
Low volume just doesnt work for me, I did PHAT for 8 weeks before feeling like a deload was necessary.
do whatever feels good. don't listen to these people bc everyone's bodies are dif. There's pro bb's who in the offseason train purely on feel and might go a week and a half training and then take a few days off
[QUOTE=jtfootball2007;964261673]do whatever feels good. don't listen to these people bc everyone's bodies are dif. There's pro bb's who in the offseason train purely on feel and might go a week and a half training and then take a few days off[/QUOTE]
^^^^^This
There are no set rules for every single person. The volume I train at has taken me literally decades to built up to. Additionally I will have days where I tune down the intensity and volume using this as deload.
What these guys are saying is very true. However, training every single day with a lot of volume will eventually come back to bite you in the ass. You will start to have shoulder and knee problems, trust me you dont want those
I was lifting heavy 6 days a week recently, I developed a mildly sore right wrist after a while. I had to take a week off upper body for it to come good.
Made some good gains though.
But it also makes me a bit worried about this...
[QUOTE=travisjw;964289993]You will start to have shoulder and knee problems, trust me you dont want those[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=crosso;964260543]Low volume just doesnt work for me, I did PHAT for 8 weeks before feeling like a deload was necessary.[/QUOTE]
I didn't mean to suggest you should be doing low volume. Not at all.
Just the combination of your frequency, volume and intensity does not match up with a guy 2 years into his training. Your muscles may recover quickly initially but after a couple of weeks they will be broken down faster than they can be regrown and your CNS will definitely not cope either.
You seem to have your heart set on it, so by all means do what you want to do. The moment you feel like you a dreading training and feeling weak or sore in your joints or not hitting the same volume as the week before, you should reconsider.
[QUOTE=mattj1x;964294083]I was lifting heavy 6 days a week recently, I developed a mildly sore right wrist after a while. I had to take a week off upper body for it to come good.
Made some good gains though.
But it also makes me a bit worried about this...[/QUOTE]
Yes, see what happens is your muscles can recover from the stress of weight lifting way faster than your little tendons and ligaments in your joints. Over time your ligaments and tendons just cant keep up with your muscles and that's when you start to get wrist, knee, and shoulder problems. Not only this but your CNS(Central Nervous System) won't have any time to recuperate from the constant weight lifting 6-7 days a week, this will make you weaker and you won't see any strength gains within the gym. Please head my warning, (Yes everyone's body is different and you might say well bodybuilders workout every day, but you have to look at it this way: Bodybuilding is their life(Job), their diets are absolutely perfect and they are on "Steroids". What you also don't see is they get deep tissue massages every week and they have a stretch coach(all of these leading to their fast recovery and ability to workout 6-7 days a week.
The only way I could see this working is if you're training with very light weights. Something in the ballpark of 50% of your 1RM. Training heavier than that, every day, will crush your nervous system. Your body doesn't heal and grow on a muscle-per-muscle basis. The body heals and grows as a singular unit, as one organism. Your nervous system is what does the work, not the individual muscles.
Let's say you train your back one day, then your chest the next. Your nervous system is stressed from the back workout, but instead of allowing it to repair your body by resting, you're forcing it to do even more work the next day. It's a vicious cycle.
Like I said, the only way this could work is if you're 1) juicing out the wazoo, or 2) using very light weights. I wouldn't recommend either though.
Thanks for the advice everyone.
I'm feeling sore as hell today, so it seems like it was just a temporary thing of not feeling exhuasted. Looks like I'll be resting 2 or 3 times a week now
I think its fine as long as you arent going balls to the wall everyday. The guy who said he was old, is probably onto something, Im old too (33) and I train everyday, but ive been in athletics since I was 7 so I have a good base to go off.
I dont do weights everyday, just 4 days a week, other days are hard cardio sessions, some days are easy jogs but I get out everyday. For example, yesterday I was pretty busy so I did Kettlebell swings, jumprope and some TRX stuff, nothing crazy but got pretty sweaty for 45 minutes.
Im not really "training" for anything event wise but keeping on it 7 days a week is nice, I odnt feel like such an ******* if I end up missing a day or 2 down the road because I didnt slack earlier.
[QUOTE=crosso;964652593]Thanks for the advice everyone.
I'm feeling sore as hell today, so it seems like it was just a temporary thing of not feeling exhuasted. Looks like I'll be resting 2 or 3 times a week now[/QUOTE]
Stop, before you decide to take time off, or reduce your training days. Are you growing and are you getting stronger? What nobody has mentioned, which was surprising. If your making progress in strength and/or size on a continual basis, then what your doing is working. It may not work for me or someone else, but like someone else mentioned is that were all different and everyone is an expert on their own bodies, but only you can know your body. So if your making strength gains, and muscle gains on a regular basis throughout the year, then your training routine is working. When you lose strength, or size, or don't make gains in strength or size over a period of time, then and only then change what your doing. Don't follow the advice of someone else if your already making good progress. When progress slows, stops or reverses, then seek advice. I have trained 7 days a week for nearly 3 years now and have increased both strength and size 10 fold. In fact this summer I even increased my time training each day from 45 minutes to 60 minutes and my arms and back exploded in strength. And as we all know, strength ultimately means size in the long run. Your not alone, go for it
[QUOTE=jtfootball2007;964261673]do whatever feels good. don't listen to these people bc everyone's bodies are dif. There's pro bb's who in the offseason train purely on feel and might go a week and a half training and then take a few days off[/QUOTE]
agreed
[QUOTE=VIsland;964246573]I train 7 days a week and I'm an old phuck I say if you're not burning out go for it[/QUOTE]
Seconded
But you have to build up your work capacity over time.
The guys who are saying you can't do it have never tried.
When I was young(er), I rarely took a day off. Either lifted or played sometype of sports nearly everyday.
As I grew older, my joints started to disagree with this type of routine.
Now that I'm an old fart, I take a couple days off a week and I find it helps both my joints and muscles.
As many posted here, we are all different, if you find that you continue to make progress then keep trucking...but, you won't hurt your body by taking a few days off either.
Your move.
If your joints are holding up, your making progress, an your fatigue isn't catching up to you; then do whatever routine you want. Lift for the enjoyment of lifting and be safe/smart about it and you cannot go wrong no matter what.
posting a link to my routine. its hell but it works brb
EDIT: LINKKKKK
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157007633[/url]
I've done a lot of trial and error and I seem to get good gains with working out five days a week. I'd say the two main things to judge are
1) how do you feel woking out seven days a week?
2) what are the gains like
If you feel good and make gains with that workout sounds like it's very suited for you.
You hit the nail on the head. Were all looking to progress, new routines etc and if something erratic is needed go for it. The guys that advise all these set routines may not need erratic or unusual training programs. But I know for me I need to keep searching for new and better ways and if that means an OTT routine, then there's no harm in trying it out. Hey didn't the establishment once tell the world that it's impossible for a human to run a mile in less that 4 minutes and that Roger Bannister was being stupid for even trying. I'm just glad we have people out there willing to try anything to reach their goals and put the neigh-sayers in their place.[QUOTE=SuffolkPunch;1135741433]Seconded
But you have to build up your work capacity over time.
The guys who are saying you can't do it have never tried.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=robert10000;1135754933]I've done a lot of trial and error and I seem to get good gains with working out five days a week. I'd say the two main things to judge are
1) how do you feel woking out seven days a week?
2) what are the gains like
If you feel good and make gains with that workout sounds like it's very suited for you.[/QUOTE]Great advice
Everyone has majorly exaggerated the CNS burnout. Do it man. Take a rest day if you feel the need
The nervous systems takes a little longer to repair. But unless you are doing strength work every day for a while it won't make much difference. Take a fellas eery 2-4 months and you'll be fine
Everyone saying you will burnout are pussies. Listen to your body and take a deload when necessary. Steve reaves and most others around that time did fullbody workouts 7 days a week and were fine.
[QUOTE=LPAthickness;964392543]The only way I could see this working is if you're training with very light weights. Something in the ballpark of 50% of your 1RM. Training heavier than that, every day, will crush your nervous system. Your body doesn't heal and grow on a muscle-per-muscle basis. The body heals and grows as a singular unit, as one organism. Your nervous system is what does the work, not the individual muscles.
Let's say you train your back one day, then your chest the next. Your nervous system is stressed from the back workout, but instead of allowing it to repair your body by resting, you're forcing it to do even more work the next day. It's a vicious cycle.
Like I said, the only way this could work is if you're 1) juicing out the wazoo, or 2) using very light weights. I wouldn't recommend either though.[/QUOTE]
The peripheral nervous system works more on a muscle per muscle basis. The central nervous system in mostly your brain down through your spine. It's hard to burn that out so that it takes less than a few hours to recover. The PNS is different. It's easier to burn out. You can go balls to walls every day and be fine