Has anyone had any luck with DVS Raw or any other Deer Antler Velvet products? DVS Raw is ranked 10 in Bodybuilding.com store, so I was wondering if it was worth the money.
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Has anyone had any luck with DVS Raw or any other Deer Antler Velvet products? DVS Raw is ranked 10 in Bodybuilding.com store, so I was wondering if it was worth the money.
lol deer antler velvet
plz no
lmfao
Heard horse sheath byproduct is more anabolic
Not all reviews are =
Look through the reviews, try messaging some of the people and asking them for their opinion on it. I did this with L-Dopa, did research looked at ratings. Seen a member of the forums I valued their opinion and asked them. Wouldn't you know the person I felt would give me good advice was more than willing to reply back. Any company could make fake accounts and give ratings, or give people product and ask for good ratings.
Also asking in a thread is not the best idea. You will get people like ^^^^^first two posters that most likely never even tried the product and are ready to condemn it on others opinions.
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019357113]Not all reviews are =
Look through the reviews, try messaging some of the people and asking them for their opinion on it. I did this with L-Dopa, did research looked at ratings. Seen a member of the forums I valued their opinion and asked them. Wouldn't you know the person I felt would give me good advice was more than willing to reply back. Any company could make fake accounts and give ratings, or give people product and ask for good ratings.
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Also asking in a thread is not the best idea. You will get people like ^^^^^first two posters that most likely never even tried the product and are ready to condemn it on others opinions[/B].[/QUOTE]
Tell me you're kidding.
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019357113]Not all reviews are =
Look through the reviews, try messaging some of the people and asking them for their opinion on it. I did this with L-Dopa, did research looked at ratings. Seen a member of the forums I valued their opinion and asked them. Wouldn't you know the person I felt would give me good advice was more than willing to reply back. Any company could make fake accounts and give ratings, or give people product and ask for good ratings.
Also asking in a thread is not the best idea. You will get people like ^^^^^first two posters that most likely never even tried the product and are ready to condemn it on others opinions.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Diesel0022;1019362593]Tell me you're kidding.[/QUOTE]
deer antler placebo trumps the science --> chk teh logz bro
[QUOTE=NO HYPE;1019365353]deer antler placebo trumps the science --> chk teh logz bro[/QUOTE]
Don't bash CEE til you've tried it, I got super huge using it....bro
[QUOTE=Diesel0022;1019365843]Don't bash CEE til you've tried it, I got super huge using it....bro[/QUOTE]
Listen just because you heard some forum "BRO" bash on Glutamine doesn't mean it's worthless. You should try it and use it and [B]THEN[/B] make a decision. It's highly ignorant to bash a product without trying it because all the cool kids are doing it. Grow up peter pan. Check the reviews, check the logs.
Lettuce be cereal for a moment and ketchup with realtea
Find me a double blind placebo study that proves Oral IGF does.....anything
Only worthwhile supplements for lifting:
Protein
Creatine
Maybe, MAYBE, Ara
IGF-1 Cannot be absorbed orally. It can be absorbed under the tongue through mucus membranes, but not at the necessary absorption rate represented in clinical trials with much higher doses being injected sub Q. All of this means Deer Antler Spray is merely a placebo. A high priced one at that.
[QUOTE=devan7;1019348933]Has anyone had any luck with DVS Raw or any other Deer Antler Velvet products? DVS Raw is ranked 10 in Bodybuilding.com store, so I was wondering if it was worth the money.[/QUOTE]
I gained over 10 pounds of lean musle in 2 weeks from spraying deer antler spray up my poopshoot.
jon1995, what happens when all these people start taking your advice and get HUGE? How am I supposed to compete??!?!?!
Have you tried Iforce Compete?
Makes you a better competitor
<3 u VT
[QUOTE=rhadam;1019367183] It's highly ignorant to bash a product without trying it because all the cool kids are doing it.[/QUOTE]
Then, without the fear of being ridiculed, I can say...THE STRAP ROCKS
Feel free to PM for info on where to find them.
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019357113]Look through the reviews, try messaging some of the people and asking them for their opinion on it. [B]I did this with L-Dopa[/B], did research looked at ratings. Seen a member of the forums I valued their opinion and asked them. [B]Wouldn't you know the person I felt would give me good advice was more than willing to reply back.[/B][/QUOTE]
This is deer antlerz we're talking about, so the advice you got about l-dopa doesn't correlate with this crap.
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019357113]Also asking in a thread is not the best idea.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. This should be a PM-only forum.
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019357113]You will get people like the first two posters that most likely never even tried the product and are ready to condemn it on others opinions.[/QUOTE]
Anyone who needs to try deer antlerz prior to purchasing, needs to remove their head from their ass.
[QUOTE=devan7;1019348933]Has anyone had any luck with DVS[/QUOTE]
Thanks to your post.... I just put them on my ignore list.
Reps on recharge.
[QUOTE=Justamonsta;1019372043]IGF-1 Cannot be absorbed orally. It can be absorbed under the tongue through mucus membranes, but not at the necessary absorption rate represented in clinical trials with much higher doses being injected sub Q. All of this means Deer Antler Spray is merely a placebo. A high priced one at that.[/QUOTE]
It's funny that people don't want to beleive it. Even the stories on ESPN.com and SI.com have doctors from the mayo clinic and Johns Hopkins stating this. Let's say that these antlers contained tons of IGF-1. Aren't they just grinding them up? The pharm IGF-1 is fragile and needs to be kept at a certain temp after reconstitution. This antler stuff must be magic.
[QUOTE=devan7;1019348933]Has anyone had any luck with DVS Raw or any other Deer Antler Velvet products? DVS Raw is ranked 10 in Bodybuilding.com store, so I was wondering if it was worth the money.[/QUOTE]
Worth the money and great results...
if taken anally.
Don't listen to these fools. Buy that **** up by the assload now before it's banned because it's so powerful.
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019357113]Not all reviews are =
Look through the reviews, try messaging some of the people and asking them for their opinion on it. I did this with L-Dopa, did research looked at ratings. Seen a member of the forums I valued their opinion and asked them. Wouldn't you know the person I felt would give me good advice was more than willing to reply back. Any company could make fake accounts and give ratings, or give people product and ask for good ratings.
Also asking in a thread is not the best idea. You will get people like ^^^^^first two posters that most likely never even tried the product and are ready to condemn it on others opinions.[/QUOTE]
Per Layne Norton,
'Dear world, deer antler spray is garbage. IGF-1 is not bioavailable, like all proteins it is denatured during digestion and hydrolyzed to it's corresponding amino acids. It does NOT enter circulation intact. In short, it's garbage. Please don't be an idiot. You may now return to your regularly scheduled program.'
i have seen in last many threads about deer antler velvet. please people,stopp trolling
to the OP..
deer antler velvet most be stacked with taxadral. that combo would increase IGF-1 and HGH
skyhigh.
if you want gains beyond this world,add HBM (not HMB)
the most extreme stack would be:
deer antler velvet,hbm,test charge(taxadral), prime,pink magic and versa-1
i can just say one thing: Permanent Muscles
and faust24 was never seen on the forums again.
rip
[QUOTE=rhadam;1019464023]and faust24 was never seen on the forums again.
rip[/QUOTE]
I am here I just don't bother with trolling. I offered the guy good advice, you guys just joking around.
I never told him to take deer antler spray I told him to ask people who took it, obviously if it doesn't work people who took it will be able to tell you this. You guys just showed how relevant my point was when you act like children.
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019555253]I never told him to take deer antler spray I told him to ask people who took it[/QUOTE]
You implied that the 2 members prior to your post were merely "condemning" the product without having tried it first --> despite the fact that the existing scientific evidence takes a heaping s[i]h[/i]it all over the deer antler '[i]check the logz bro, try it first[/i]' mentality.
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019555253]obviously if it doesn't work people who took it will be able to tell you this.[/QUOTE]
Great idea. According to your line of reasoning, the op and everyone else, should just stop asking questions via threads like these, and ignore the placebo factor when it comes to opinions reguarding compounds with no scientific evidence backing them right? BRB.... gonna go purchase some Prime & Pink Magic due to all the forum retards who say they worked great.
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019555253]I offered the guy good advice[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019555253]You guys just showed how relevant my point was[/QUOTE]
Keep telling yourself that.
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019555253]I am here I just don't bother with trolling. I offered the guy good advice, you guys just joking around.
I never told him to take deer antler spray I told him to ask people who took it, obviously if it doesn't work people who took it will be able to tell you this. You guys just showed how relevant my point was when you act like children.[/QUOTE]
Per Layne Norton,
'Dear world, deer antler spray is garbage. IGF-1 is not bioavailable, like all proteins it is denatured during digestion and hydrolyzed to it's corresponding amino acids. It does NOT enter circulation intact. In short, it's garbage. Please don't be an idiot. You may now return to your regularly scheduled program.'
[QUOTE=Faust24;1019555253]I am here I just don't bother with trolling. I offered the guy good advice, you guys just joking around.
I never told him to take deer antler spray I told him to ask people who took it, obviously if it doesn't work people who took it will be able to tell you this. You guys just showed how relevant my point was when you act like children.[/QUOTE]
So how is an entire growth factor taken up from the gut lumen?
If it does not work why did the NFL ban the use of it? I do not think they would ban something that does not work. They have enough money to research this and find the truth about it.