5/5/5 with 55's
5/5/5 with 55's
I really dont think there is any way to tell that its a totally different exercise in my opinion even though it works the same muscle I can rep 225 for 6 reps, but I can only do 80lbs right now on db's for 6 reps and if you multiply 80x2 its 160lb so really doesn't compare?
[QUOTE=henrycole;373951291]5/5/5 with 55's[/QUOTE]
try it out. usually it's higher than 110. why are you doing 5/5/5, is it to failure?
Maybe try benching in order to find out how much you bench.
[QUOTE=bullybreed;373953121]I really dont think there is any way to tell that its a totally different exercise in my opinion even though it works the same muscle I can rep 225 for 6 reps, but I can only do 80lbs right now on db's for 6 reps and if you multiply 80x2 its 160lb so really doesn't compare?[/QUOTE]
hmm ok
Start light and move up, best way to get your question answered.
[QUOTE=autonoma;373957721]try it out. usually it's higher than 110. why are you doing 5/5/5, is it to failure?[/QUOTE]
Because im doing Starting Strenght, dont scream at me for using dumbbells instead of a barbell!
Its not to failure, 5 reps is my work set for SS.
[QUOTE=henrycole;373951291]5/5/5 with 55's[/QUOTE]
I can run a mile in 6:15. How fast will I be able to run a 100 meter dash?
Those are 2 different exercises. Dumbbell presses use more stabilizer muscles.
Some people I have seen in the gym can bench 250 but can hardly get 90lbs in each hand up while others have scores within 10-20lbs of their bench score.
I recommend alternating both bench press and dumbbell press. You will be able to go for high weight with the bench press and make sure your stabilizers stay maintained with the dumbbells.
Ya best way is just to try it, nobody is gettin on ur case for using db's i actually prefer them over regular bb bench, feel I gain alot more from it.
[QUOTE=henrycole;373959071]Because im doing Starting Strenght, dont scream at me for using dumbbells instead of a barbell!
Its not to failure, 5 reps is my work set for SS.[/QUOTE]
If that is your work set and you aren't going near failure you need to increase the weight... Otherwise you are wasting your time... You won't make any real gains until you really go for it.
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So i should be benching 122 lbs if i have strong form and stabilizer?
[QUOTE=henrycole;374011061]So i should be benching 122 lbs if i have strong form and stabilizer?[/QUOTE]
Did you even read what people wrote?? They spent time answering your question. Maybe you should at least read what they said.
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[QUOTE=matjusm;296091731]Due to a bad choice of gym, I was limited to only using dumbbells for about 5 months. I could do 32 kg (70lb) dumbbells for about 8 reps or so. Now when I went for the first time over a long period of time into a proper gym with barbells, I didn't dare go over 60kg (132lb) on the barbell and manage to squeeze out 8 reps on that.
What I am trying to say is that it really depends on what you have been predominantly working with. I am sure that soon I will be able to significantly increase my barbell bench and not because of a stronger chest but simply because I am getting used to using a barbell again.[/QUOTE]
IMO this is the best answer. I worked up to (6 weeks) a max of 6 reps with 65 dumbells, and the next week I switched to barbell and I could only do 130, which, oddly enough is the sum of the two dumbbells i had benched the week before. I'm sure in 6 weeks I'll have a similar level of progression in the barbell bench as I did with the dumbell.
This subject is bound to study as such that stats are fluctuant.
I will thus perform barbell bench press and see for myself.
[QUOTE=henrycole;374016411]This subject is bound to study as such that stats are fluctuant.
I will thus perform barbell bench press and see for myself.[/QUOTE]
Have a spotter ready and try 135, i think it'd be pretty challenging for you but doable. One plate per side aint much, but it's a place to start, and based on a 110lb x 6-7 predicted lift (generally i find 3x5 is about a 6rm) it is reasonable.
Over 110 is the best answer you'll get. Take the weight of each DB, add them together, and there's a value that you can work with. Pairs of muscles (like the pecs), when used together, can move more weight than each muscle individually.
My guess: 130-140 for 5.
138.327
You should be able to bust out 10 reps of 250 easy.
Don't forget to really really stretch your muscles as much as you can first.
Oh, and don't forget to use the grip where your thumb is on the same side as the rest of your fingers.
You'll be benching 250 easy.
I can actually DB press more than I bench, at least in terms of reps (DB's only go to 115 in my gym, I can bench 230 about 4 times, but DB Press 115's 6+)
BB Bench has never been my best movement for some reason.
[QUOTE=henrycole;373951291]5/5/5 with 55's[/QUOTE]
i think it is different for different people cus i db bench 8 reps of 60 lbs but i can only bb benck 8 reps of 140 whereas ive seen a guy at the gym do 8 reps of 65 lbs but seen him bench 200+ right before that
[QUOTE=theapexxxx;374127621]You should be able to bust out 10 reps of 250 easy.
Don't forget to really really stretch your muscles as much as you can first.
Oh, and don't forget to use the grip where your thumb is on the same side as the rest of your fingers.
You'll be benching 250 easy.[/QUOTE]
what he said
I find that there's a direct correlation between the amount you can bench and the number of pounds on a barbell that you can lay flat on your back and push from a point on or just above your chest to the point where your arms are fully extended.
There's a formula for that, will post later.
The guy who said 250 is way off IMO. I'd say once you get used to BB bench you'll be able to do about 190-210 as your one rep max.
[QUOTE=Lasharm;373960241]Those are 2 different exercises. Dumbbell presses use more stabilizer muscles.
Some people I have seen in the gym can bench 250 but can hardly get 90lbs in each hand up while others have scores within 10-20lbs of their bench score.
I recommend alternating both bench press and dumbbell press. You will be able to go for high weight with the bench press and make sure your stabilizers stay maintained with the dumbbells.[/QUOTE]
This. There is no direct correlation because of the mechanics of the pressing motion. Weaknesses in the stabilizing muscles that may limit you in a DB press don't come into play with a barbell, and vice-versa. So basically, you won't know til you throw some plates on a bar and find out.
[QUOTE=henrycole;373951291]5/5/5 with 55's[/QUOTE]
you should beable to bench more than the dumbells combined. you wont be using as many of your smaller muscles, "stabilizers". i can barbell 100lb an arm, and bench 250.
In before "tree-fitty."
[QUOTE=J_Bo;374120251]138.327[/QUOTE]
No fool. Its 138.237! Imagine the horrors if OP's lifts was 0.090 lbs off!