I am coming towards the end of a 4 week h-drol cycle, dosed at 75mg. Felt it kick in only a couple of day ago though, so I am thinking of running it for 5 weeks instead of 4. Any thoughts on this? what could be the possible sides?
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I am coming towards the end of a 4 week h-drol cycle, dosed at 75mg. Felt it kick in only a couple of day ago though, so I am thinking of running it for 5 weeks instead of 4. Any thoughts on this? what could be the possible sides?
[QUOTE=hardipsrai;191020711]I am coming towards the end of a 4 week h-drol cycle, dosed at 75mg. Felt it kick in only a couple of day ago though, so I am thinking of running it for 5 weeks instead of 4. Any thoughts on this? what could be the possible sides?[/QUOTE]
Run it for 6 weeks brother, liver toxicity is extremely overstated. For example, the typical dosage for Oral Winstrol is 75-100mgs ED, used for 6-8 weeks.
Halodrol is a very mild compound, side effects should be virtually non-existent.
at what dose?
what should i keep an eye out for tho if sides develop? and if running for over 4 weeks, what should my pct look like?
Also, i am bridging with 11-oxo after im done with h-drol
[QUOTE=hardipsrai;191024141]at what dose?
what should i keep an eye out for tho if sides develop? and if running for over 4 weeks, what should my pct look like?
Also, i am bridging with 11-oxo after im done with h-drol[/QUOTE]
Run the standard dosage for another 2 weeks.(50-75mgs)
Your PCT for a 4 week cycle is the same for a 6 week cycle;
-Aromatase Inhibitor
-SERM
-Natural Testosterone Booster/FREE T Booster
*Additonals:
-Creatine
-Ecdysterone
-Citrulline Malate
-Vitex Agnus Castus
? SERM? I thought a serm would not be needed with a h-cycle?
My planned PCT:
AI's PCS
6-OXO at 300mg
ATD at 25mg
I do take some peoples' advice here on bb.com but I personally chat with people who uses havoc, h-drol and other prohormones for years at the gym and they all tell me that it is very very mild, run it 6-8 weeks and dont worry about it. and i take their words more than anybodyelse here because they have done it and they have first hand experience. I know a dude who was on cycle for 6 months. NO BS 6 months and he is HUGE now! i dont recommend that long to anyone but a couple weeks extra with a very mild prohormone shouldnt be a big deal. Mine kicked in right at the 4th week and i would hate to stop my cycle when it just kicked in so i extended for another 3 weeks. I will run it for another 1,5 weeks and be done with it. I take a lot of liver support along with it and I havent had a single side effect in 6 weeks so far! good luck!
and what does ur pct look like?
[QUOTE=hardipsrai;191027621]? SERM? I thought a serm would not be needed with a h-cycle?
My planned PCT:
AI's PCS
6-OXO at 300mg
ATD at 25mg[/QUOTE]
No, that is [b]SUPPLEMENT FORUM *DOGMA*[/b]
Run a STANDARD PCT if you REALLY care about your penis. :)
I am scratching my head furiously now. I began the cycle, knowing that people do not use a SERM on h-drol cycles. Now, you are suggesting that it is important? please explain the rationale
[QUOTE=hardipsrai;191030161]and what does ur pct look like?[/QUOTE]
My PCT? it is AI Post cycle support, NOW liver detox, Novedex XT. thats it.
Don't get confused. There are two camps. One says that a SERM should be used for almost all PH. The other camp says "it depends". The original Halodrol-50 by Gaspari had its PCT paired with Novedex XT. Then the clones came out. I have done Halodrol, Bold, and even Epistane with non-SERM PCT with no issues. At the extreme, with M1T, I always used a SERM. The reason they advise a SERM "just in case" is if you start to get itchy nipple(s). A week of 40mg SERM liquid Nolva ED fixed it for me. Do more research if you are still nervous. And also look at other bulletin boards not just BB.
I will follow my h-drol cycle with a month of 11-oxo before i start my PCT, with the 11-oxo bridge, will i need to alter my pct?
[QUOTE=hardipsrai;191040631]I will follow my h-drol cycle with a month of 11-oxo before i start my PCT, with the 11-oxo bridge, will i need to alter my pct?[/QUOTE]
Halodrol is an ANABOLIC ANDROGENIC STEROID(AAS).
ANY Anabolic Androgenic Steroid requires a FULL POST CYCLE THERAPY REGIMEN.
Halodrol is a powerful analogue of Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone(Turinabol) and will therefore cause a significant reduction in your body's natural testosterone level.
These compounds are SERIOUS and could have a SEVERELY detrimental effect on your body's endocrine system and natural testosterone production for a very long time if extreme caution is not taken.
Anabolic Steroids are NOT A JOKE. Run a FULL standard PCT, using Torimifene, Arimidex(or a legal AI), and a GOOD natural testosterone booster.
1) Should/Can i still use 11-oxo before i go into PCT?
2) What should a NORMAL pct (inc SERMS) look like? (Dosage wise)
would it be a good idea to stack h-drol and bold. or bold and havoc?
not to hijack sorry
bump
Run it to 6 weeks.
\SERM is not required IMO....Pct cane be as simple as Inhibit E(atd), BlueUp, and Lean xtreme( cortisol blocker)
Good advice. The only thing you might think about is using the BlueUp non-stim if you are taking it at night also. Other than that its the exact non-SERM I use. My SERM PCT is 40/40/20/20 Liquid Nolva FYI. There are others like Torem and Clomid but I haven't used those since Liquid Nolva has been relatively easy for me to get. But I agree, a SERM is not required for Halodrol clones.
[QUOTE=em-dubya;191091531]Run it to 6 weeks.
\SERM is not required IMO....Pct cane be as simple as Inhibit E(atd), BlueUp, and Lean xtreme( cortisol blocker)[/QUOTE]
Yes thank you---Blue up (stim free) ... you dont want the caffiene from the other version because it can cause a jump in cortisol levels
what brand of h-drol are you using?
[QUOTE=hardipsrai;191080281]1) Should/Can i still use 11-oxo before i go into PCT?
2) What should a NORMAL pct (inc SERMS) look like? (Dosage wise)[/QUOTE]
There is NO need to use 11-oxo to "bridge" your cycle. Run the H-drol, then start PCT.
If you insist on not using a SERM, I would suggest using Novedex XT and AndroGenerator.
WIll the 11-oxo be of NO use at all? I would have thought, it would aide in retaining more size/strength post cycle, owing to its cortisol modulating abililty.
[QUOTE=hardipsrai;191229301]WIll the 11-oxo be of NO use at all? I would have thought, it would aide in retaining more size/strength post cycle, owing to its cortisol modulating abililty.[/QUOTE]
You could use it for that purpose, although I think that supressing the HPTA for an additional 4 weeks would outweigh any positive effect that the 11-oxo has on your cortsiol levels before you go in to FULL PCT.
Thus, I would advise NOT to bridge with the 11-oxo, and just go straight in to PCT.
Many thanks!
I will run the h-drol for an addition 2 weeks (6 total) at 75mg. I am considering running 11-oxo for a short period, maybe 3 weeks only.
BB.com does not stock AndroGenerator
instead of bridging with 11-oxo, what if i stack it with the h-drol for the remaing 2 weeks?
[QUOTE=SupremeSE;191231521]You could use it for that purpose, although I think that supressing the HPTA for an additional 4 weeks would outweigh any positive effect that the 11-oxo has on your cortsiol levels before you go in to FULL PCT.
Thus, I would advise NOT to bridge with the 11-oxo, and just go straight in to PCT.[/QUOTE]
why are you in the red?
[QUOTE=hardipsrai;191235261]instead of bridging with 11-oxo, what if i stack it with the h-drol for the remaing 2 weeks?[/QUOTE]
Better idea. :)
[QUOTE=G-mane12;191235531]why are you in the red?[/QUOTE]
I "bashed" another product, unintentionally. I was negged by a MOD.
PCT for h-drol is simple:
week 1-4:
Post cycle support (anabolic innovation)
I3C
ZMA
week 3-5:
lean xtreme
week 4-7:
6-oxo (400/300/200/100)
That's it.