Short head/Long head Bicep???

Can someone explain this to me. Like what part of your bicep is the short head, and which is the long, then exercises for both.
I love doing preachers bench, I was told this does your bicep, is there a part of my biceps I am not working out?

Heads
1. Long Head (Outer)
2. Short Head (Inner)

[img]http://www.exrx.net/Graphics/BicepsInside.gif[/img]

preacher curls work the long head of the bicep, this exercise gives you the peak in your bicep.

in addition to preacher curls, I do barbell curls, dumbbell curls, incline dumbbell curls, low cable curls, reverse curls and hammer curls. I only choose 2-3 exercises to do on my arm days though.

so what exercise works your short bicep?

Straight bar curls, incline curls

KeepOnShruggin is right you have to work ur whole bicep,in general you have to do 2 to 3 exercises for bicep per workout,Barbell curl work whole bicep and build mass,then which other bicep part u want to train pick exercise which KeepOnShruggin mention.i would prefer after barbell curl you should do dumbell and then preacher curl.But this is me,and no 2 people are same,so see what works for u.

so I havnt been working my whole bicep, should I notice this when I look at my arm(where does it show)? If I straight bar curl then I'll get better results? (thanks for the tips, will do)

[QUOTE=preachercurl-NE;88603113]so I havnt been working my whole bicep, should I notice this when I look at my arm(where does it show)? If I straight bar curl then I'll get better results? (thanks for the tips, will do)[/QUOTE]

you'll get best results by mixing up your arm exercises like keep and vicky said. On arm day, try to work out both heads.

[QUOTE=preachercurl-NE;88593083]Can someone explain this to me. Like what part of your bicep is the short head, and which is the long, then exercises for both.
I love doing preachers bench, I was told this does your bicep, is there a part of my biceps I am not working out?[/QUOTE]

Preacher curls with a narrow grip are a great overall bicep exercise.

Preacher curls suck for me.

The main differences in curl are grip width and type/angle of grip.

Narrow width hits outer, wide hits inner.
Supinated, neutral, pronated and all the angles in between will affect how it hits your biceps and brachialis.

[QUOTE=preachercurl-NE;88598513]so what exercise works your short bicep?[/QUOTE]

When you do a regular db bicep curl, twisting as you curl up, hold your thumb and index fingers right up against the plates on the one side of the db. As you twist, you should feel this in the short head of the bicep more.

The biceps has two functions, as I see it:

1. Flexion of the elbow
2. Supination ("Twisting in") of the wrist.

Have fun with that!

(want to post here but nervous............................beads of sweat pouring down forehead, eyes darting around nervously looking for any signs of the scientific warlord formerly known as bally's trainer)

I have machine and free weight preachers curl, and I tend to do free, but I have really good form, sitting, all the way down till triceps flex, then back up. Should I be using the machine, or does it not matter? Then on the free weight where there are places for me to place my hands, would it work the short if I had my grip to the outside, because usually my grip is to the inside.

[QUOTE=preachercurl-NE;88686963]I have machine and free weight preachers curl, and I tend to do free, but I have really good form, sitting, all the way down till triceps flex, then back up. Should I be using the machine, or does it not matter? Then on the free weight where there are places for me to place my hands, would it work the short if I had my grip to the outside, because usually my grip is to the inside.[/QUOTE]

The thing I suggested only really works best with DB's.

[QUOTE=DiamondDelts;88680823](want to post here but nervous............................beads of sweat pouring down forehead, eyes darting around nervously looking for any signs of the scientific warlord formerly known as bally's trainer)[/QUOTE]

Too funny.

RE: OP question - from what i've seen myself, the various articles available to read, and the basic physiology, it's really not the different exercises that hit the two biceps heads differently, it's primarily the width of the grip and the motion.

DoubleWide hit it right - Narrow hits outer, wide hits inner.

wide grips will hit the short head more and close grips will hit the long. Also the more supinated you hand is the more the short head will be used in the exercise.

[QUOTE=KeepOnShruggin;88597093]Heads
1. Long Head (Outer)
2. Short Head (Inner)

[img]http://www.exrx.net/Graphics/BicepsInside.gif[/img]

preacher curls work the long head of the bicep, this exercise gives you the peak in your bicep.

in addition to preacher curls, I do barbell curls, dumbbell curls, incline dumbbell curls, low cable curls, reverse curls and hammer curls. I only choose 2-3 exercises to do on my arm days though.[/QUOTE]
Actually preacher curls don't help give better peak cus of extra brachialis development. They will help the biceps look peaked from the back, but flatter from the front.


[QUOTE=Defiant1;88623263]Preacher curls with a narrow grip are a great overall bicep exercise.[/QUOTE]
I think using a wide grip would work them overall. The narrow grip emphasizes the outer head...which the preacher curl already hits anyways. Personally I just use the width that gives me the hardest contraction. :)

[QUOTE=battousai216;88856633]wide grips will hit the short head more and close grips will hit the long. Also the more supinated you hand is the more the short head will be used in the exercise.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=J3!;88855653]Too funny.

RE: OP question - from what i've seen myself, the various articles available to read, and the basic physiology, it's really not the different exercises that hit the two biceps heads differently, it's primarily the width of the grip and the motion.

DoubleWide hit it right - Narrow hits outer, wide hits inner.[/QUOTE]

Finally....I thought nobody was gonna say it. It's amazing how much people can talk in these forums without answering the question or how little they know about exercise science. Good hit.

I always use close grip for preachers, and wide grip on standing straight bar curls.

supinated? What does that mean?
So if I have a wider grip on preacher curl, I'll work both, same for everthing else.

So how Can I make it look like I have huge peaks in front?
If preacher curls make the peaks look big in the back?

supinated means palms up, and my favorite exercise for a peaked look from the front his high pulley curls

[QUOTE=J-Peg;88598873]Straight bar curls, incline curls[/QUOTE]

WRONG, they work the long outer head, the peak

you are wrong...preacher curl works short head...not the long head....

[QUOTE=preachercurl-NE;88593083]Can someone explain this to me. Like what part of your bicep is the short head, and which is the long, then exercises for both.
I love doing preachers bench, I was told this does your bicep, is there a part of my biceps I am not working out?[/QUOTE]

You've saw the diagrams so I'm just expanding on some of the stuff that has been said after your post bud.

When you're doing the incline curl, the long head of the bicep is stretched, and when you stretch a muscle before you contract it, that muscle can contract with more force and this means it takes more of the load during an exercise. The long head of the bicep makes up the mass of the biceps peak so the incline curl is effective for building the biceps peak.

With the preacher curl, it's performed with your arms moving in front of your body and this causes slack on the long head of the bicep, and this makes it the weaker head during this exercise. Because of this, the short head takes the majority of the load during the preacher curl so it's not a great exercise for building the peak but it is great for building up the inner biceps.

Hope this helps mate.