I loved the old jack3d! Most effective and highest energy pre wo I had ever had and I got to my bench pr with it. Do any pre-wos still have it or has it been totally banned?
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I loved the old jack3d! Most effective and highest energy pre wo I had ever had and I got to my bench pr with it. Do any pre-wos still have it or has it been totally banned?
It's not banned in the US. There are many still out there like Core ZAP, ProSupps Hyde, IForce Maximize Intense V1, Muscle Marinade, the original Jack3d is still available, etc...
well, some places still have old stock of those pre-workouts
but most companies have reformulated their pre workouts since the ban
Jack3d is still readily available from GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. Also give VPX Friction a try to give yourself a break from 1-3-dimethyl.
[QUOTE=mordag;1040578423]well, some places still have old stock of those pre-workouts
but most companies have reformulated their pre workouts since the ban[/QUOTE]
Making them less effective right? Craze can still bring it for me.
[QUOTE=Terrimonas;1040578153][b]It's not banned in the US[/B]. There are many still out there like Core ZAP, ProSupps Hyde, etc...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=mordag;1040578423]well, some places still have old stock of those pre-workouts
but [B]most companies have reformulated their pre workouts since the ban[/B][/QUOTE]
So, is it banned or isn't it?
No, it's not. You can buy bulk 1,3 online.
[QUOTE=kissdadookie;1040578693]Jack3d is still readily available from GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. Also give VPX Friction a try to give yourself a break from 1-3-dimethyl.[/QUOTE]
Jack3d no longer has the secret ingredient.
[QUOTE=TheCore84;1040579343]Jack3d no longer has the secret ingredient.[/QUOTE]
I can still get it with these ingredients: Proprietary Blend: (arginine alpha-ketoglutarate, creatine monohydrate, beta alanine (Carnosyn®), caffeine, 1,3-dimethylamylamine HCL, shisandra chinensis (berry) extract (standardized for schizandrol A))
[QUOTE=TheCore84;1040579343]Jack3d no longer has the secret ingredient.[/QUOTE]
You haven't been checking the label recently have you? Jack3d micro is the non-1-3 version. They still sell the original Jack3d at GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. Bb.com took it off though because they have a policy I believe of not carrying items which are banned from any organization.
[QUOTE=UWBodybuilding;1040579213]So, is it banned or isn't it?
No, it's not. You can buy bulk 1,3 online.[/QUOTE]
from this link [url]http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm302133.htm[/url] it seems several companies received letters and then proceeded to change their formulas
[QUOTE=mordag;1040581073]from this link it seems several companies received letters and then proceeded to change their formulas[/QUOTE]
USP is fighting it. It's also just being pulled from sale to the military but not from the general consumer market. It is however banned from some sports organizations.
[QUOTE=mordag;1040581073]from this link [url]http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm302133.htm[/url] it seems several companies received letters and then proceeded to change their formulas[/QUOTE]
If it was banned, every company would remove it immediately or receive hefty fines (possibly worse). But, the FDA didn't say it was dangerous. They just said that the companies haven't proven DMAA's safety.
[QUOTE=kissdadookie;1040582133]USP is fighting it. It's also just being pulled from sale to the military but not from the general consumer market. It is however banned from some sports organizations.[/QUOTE]
Yeah we can't have it or original 1mr anymore. Had no idea it was still for sale. Kinda excites me but I can't have it :(
[QUOTE=TheCore84;1040613133]Yeah we can't have it or original 1mr anymore. Had no idea it was still for sale. Kinda excites me but I can't have it :([/QUOTE]
You can have it. As far as I know the military hasn't banned its use. It just isn't sold on bases to make more difficult to obtain. I was taking 1,3 in high doses after the military pulled it from shelves and never failed a urinalysis.
[QUOTE=TheCore84;1040577253]I loved the old jack3d! Most effective and highest energy pre wo I had ever had and I got to my bench pr with it. Do any pre-wos still have it or has it been totally banned?[/QUOTE]
You can still find 1,3 available in many places. I often see the old tubs of jack3d as well as pres with 1,3 in them. Recently, on another planet I saw a tub of 1,3 caps dirt cheap.
I agree, it give you a ton of energy, but I hate that shiz. Stim dick city, crashes, etc.
[QUOTE=TeamMetal;1040622383]You can have it. As far as I know the military hasn't banned its use. It just isn't sold on bases to make more difficult to obtain. I was taking 1,3 in high doses after the military pulled it from shelves and never failed a urinalysis.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, well this is interesting.
not banned. my roommate bought some from our local gnc...
Last I heard it is still being produced and sold widely