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I didnt vote, but I looked at the results. If anyone thinks he should have won over 3 they are sadly mistaken and Ray Charles blind. Seriously people, its ok to "like" someone but its another thing to be a blind fanboy.
Ray,Levrone,Delete,Nasser all should have had wins. PLUS Dorians 1st win was a joke as well. Haney looked a lot better over all. Yates is as over rated as it can get in the world of bbing.
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[QUOTE=mikieson;470695281]Seriously people, its ok to "like" someone but its another thing to be a blind fanboy.[/QUOTE]
Agreeing with professional bodybuilding judges is being a fanboy? Dam... why didn't anyone tell me this? I must be one of the biggest fanboys in the sport then!
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[QUOTE=mikieson;470695281]PLUS Dorians 1st win was a joke as well. Haney looked a lot better over all. Yates is as over rated as it can get in the world of bbing.[/QUOTE]
Dorian's first win was 92....Haneys last year he competed was 91.....you are a fcking noob.
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[QUOTE=AnarkyLost;470698671]Dorian's first win was 92....Haneys last year he competed was 91.....you are a fcking noob.[/QUOTE]
From what I remember Yates took the win from Haney? No need in name calling is there? If I made a mistake, then..its a mistake. BUT it wouldnt take much of a bber to beat Yates so...maybe Flex should have taken at least one too.
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One of the sickest looking physiques I ever seen on a pro, Dorian in his prime.
[youtube]B-t3bDOFAK8[/youtube]
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[QUOTE=mikieson;470701221]From what I remember Yates took the win from Haney? No need in name calling is there? If I made a mistake, then..its a mistake. BUT it wouldnt take much of a bber to beat Yates so...maybe Flex should have taken at least one too.[/QUOTE]
Hi Nasser
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[QUOTE=mikieson;470701221]it wouldnt take much of a bber to beat Yates[/QUOTE]
Tell that to all the Olympia competitors of 93 to 97, I'm sure they will appreciate it ;)
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lulz at the 15 people who voted zero.
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from some posts in this thread, it seems that judges at the Mr Olympia were/are wrong most of the time...esp when Dorian Yates won.
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[QUOTE=AnarkyLost;470705281]One of the sickest looking physiques I ever seen on a pro, Dorian in his prime.
[youtube]B-t3bDOFAK8[/youtube][/QUOTE]
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Dorian yates physique is very deceptive.It is a strange phenomenom.According to Peter Mc gough pictures do not do Yates justice at all.
for example.
In the 1996 gand prix the video shows backstage and yates looks a bit small and flat .
But once he gets on stage and poses .He has the widest shoulders and best shape and the hardness and cuts are unbelivable .His cuts are just so clear and deep.Nasser must weigh 20lbs more but he blows him away. Watch some Mr olympias on a big TV screen and you see what Yates is about
You cant judge a bodybuilding show from pictures alone .Video is a bit better but you have to consider what the experts at the show say as well.
for example at the Arnold classic i thought phil Heath looked as big as Kai Greene.In an interview after Dave palumbo and co were saying they thought his muscles were almost too big and massive and Heaths trainer was saying how thick he is.You cant see that in pics .Onstage that 3 dimensional quality looks better .Yates had that combination of 3 d thickness and crytal clear definition plus his strengths such as forearms calves low back low lats width ,shoulder width are the other competitors weak parts.
In 1997 the best nasser did was equal dorian in some muscle but next to dorian he looked smooth .although i thought he won the front double bicep pose ,but even slightly off Dorian is just so clearly cut he makes other guys look smooth..The guy is a freak.
The way I see yates is .If you added some height to Dexter Jackson ,made him 5-9% more defined ,built up his calves forearms and low back and added 50lbs of muscle .then you would have Dorian Yates
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1992
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1994
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1995
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[QUOTE=fantell;470745461]Dorian yates physique is very deceptive.It is a strange phenomenom.According to Peter Mc gough pictures do not do Yates justice at all.
for example.
In the 1996 gand prix the video shows backstage and yates looks a bit small and flat .
But once he gets on stage and poses .He has the widest shoulders and best shape and the hardness and cuts are unbelivable .His cuts are just so clear and deep.Nasser must weigh 20lbs more but he blows him away. Watch some Mr olympias on a big TV screen and you see what Yates is about
You cant judge a bodybuilding show from pictures alone .Video is a bit better but you have to consider what the experts at the show say as well.
for example at the Arnold classic i thought phil Heath looked as big as Kai Greene.In an interview after Dave palumbo and co were saying they thought his muscles were almost too big and massive and Heaths trainer was saying how thick he is.You cant see that in pics .Onstage that 3 dimensional quality looks better .Yates had that combination of 3 d thickness and crytal clear definition plus his strengths such as forearms calves low back low lats width ,shoulder width are the other competitors weak parts.
In 1997 the best nasser did was equal dorian in some muscle but next to dorian he looked smooth .although i thought he won the front double bicep pose ,but even slightly off Dorian is just so clearly cut he makes other guys look smooth..The guy is a freak.
The way I see yates is .If you added some height to Dexter Jackson ,made him 5-9% more defined ,built up his calves forearms and low back and added 50lbs of muscle .then you would have Dorian Yates[/QUOTE]
Dorian has said over in the MD forums that he over dieted for every show b/c he was obsessed with coming in conditioned. That 1993 Photoshoot he was 268lbs shredded but he kept dieting up to the contest and lost 10-15lbs of muscle bc of it, he did that for every show and its somethign he said he regrets. So we never actually got to see a 100 percent prime Dorian.
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[QUOTE=AnarkyLost;470785261]Dorian has said over in the MD forums that he over dieted for every show b/c he was obsessed with coming in conditioned. That 1993 Photoshoot he was 268lbs shredded but he kept dieting up to the contest and lost 10-15lbs of muscle bc of it, he did that for every show and its somethign he said he regrets. So we never actually got to see a 100 percent prime Dorian.[/QUOTE]
That's strange because in pics he looks less conditioned than his competitors in almost every shot. His lower back area is good, but his glutes aren't shredded. His serratus gets crushed by shawn, levrone has him in delt striations in another picture.. Overall his conditioning is ballparking them and he was more size though.
I know people say he looks very grainy, again, that's probably hard to get across in pictures. That being said he did still deserve a few of his wins. The 92 pics are very convincing, but that's dorians best pose lol. If Kevin had managed to develop a back or if shawn was 3 inches taller, no way...
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[QUOTE=mikieson;470695281]I didnt vote, but I looked at the results. If anyone thinks he should have won over 3 they are sadly mistaken and Ray Charles blind. Seriously people, its ok to "like" someone but its another thing to be a blind fanboy.
Ray,Levrone,Delete,Nasser all should have had wins. PLUS Dorians 1st win was a joke as well. Haney looked a lot better over all. Yates is as over rated as it can get in the world of bbing.[/QUOTE]
lol at calling everyone Ray Charles blind but thinks DY 1st win came against Haney....noob
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I saw 2 Mr. O's live (94 & 96) and Dorian was the biggest guy on stage. Not a question about that. But, I have to say that Flex, Shawn and Kevin did have him in some poses.
Dorian deserved all his titles but 1. I feel that his bicep being pretty much gone, much like Ronnie and his lat, should of placed someone ahead f him in that contest. I won't say WHO to place ahead of him, I guess whoever got 2nd that year. But, 4 is about what I still feel he deserved, and much like Ronnie COULD of lost to Jay in 2001, and did in 2006. Dorian had some off years that Flex, Shawn and Kevin can easily feel(and have a decent argument) they should of won.
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AND WTF???!!! Dorian beat Haney? Did I miss something. Could of sworn Haney retired in 91 and Dorian won in 92...
NOOB
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[QUOTE=I_hate_Training;470798541]I saw 2 Mr. O's live (94 & 96) and Dorian was the biggest guy on stage. Not a question about that. But, I have to say that Flex, Shawn and Kevin did have him in some poses.
Dorian deserved all his titles but 1. I feel that his bicep being pretty much gone, much like Ronnie and his lat, should of placed someone ahead f him in that contest. I won't say WHO to place ahead of him, I guess whoever got 2nd that year. But, 4 is about what I still feel he deserved, and much like Ronnie COULD of lost to Jay in 2001, and did in 2006. Dorian had some off years that Flex, Shawn and Kevin can easily feel(and have a decent argument) they should of won.
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AND WTF???!!! Dorian beat Haney? Did I miss something. Could of sworn Haney retired in 91 and Dorian won in 92...
NOOB[/QUOTE]
Which year are you talking about?
If you are talking about the year that Dorian tore his bicep, then that's was 1994. But Dorian had a torn bicep for the next three years as well.
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[QUOTE=mikieson;470701221]From what I remember Yates took the win from Haney? No need in name calling is there? If I made a mistake, then..its a mistake. BUT it wouldnt take much of a bber to beat Yates so...maybe Flex should have taken at least one too.[/QUOTE]
Dorian never beat Haney, but you may mean that Dorian inherited the title from Haney after Haney retired which is true.
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22 of you voted none?
Are you fuking blind?
Not even 1993?
Jeezus.
EDIT: Dorian makes Shawn Ray look like a child. :D
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[QUOTE=DylanDetrick;470551351]Yes I know but I just can't believe that somebody who has THAT many things wrong with their physique can be considered the absolute best on the entire planet.[/QUOTE]
Ok know it all 17yr old.
Compare these things then:
1) Calves
2) Back width
3) Back thickness
4) proportions
5) triceps
6) conditioning
7) overall thickness unbeatable at that time
8) striated hammies, thick quads
9) delts and chest decent too
Ok, his bycps weren't shaped too hot.
You FTL.
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[QUOTE=fantell;470745461]Dorian yates physique is very deceptive.It is a strange phenomenom.According to Peter Mc gough pictures do not do Yates justice at all.
for example.
In the 1996 gand prix the video shows backstage and yates looks a bit small and flat .
But once he gets on stage and poses .He has the widest shoulders and best shape and the hardness and cuts are unbelivable .His cuts are just so clear and deep.Nasser must weigh 20lbs more but he blows him away. Watch some Mr olympias on a big TV screen and you see what Yates is about
You cant judge a bodybuilding show from pictures alone .Video is a bit better but you have to consider what the experts at the show say as well.
for example at the Arnold classic i thought phil Heath looked as big as Kai Greene.In an interview after Dave palumbo and co were saying they thought his muscles were almost too big and massive and Heaths trainer was saying how thick he is.You cant see that in pics .Onstage that 3 dimensional quality looks better .Yates had that combination of 3 d thickness and crytal clear definition plus his strengths such as forearms calves low back low lats width ,shoulder width are the other competitors weak parts.
In 1997 the best nasser did was equal dorian in some muscle but next to dorian he looked smooth .although i thought he won the front double bicep pose ,but even slightly off Dorian is just so clearly cut he makes other guys look smooth..The guy is a freak.
The way I see yates is .If you added some height to Dexter Jackson ,made him 5-9% more defined ,built up his calves forearms and low back and added 50lbs of muscle .then you would have Dorian Yates[/QUOTE]
I agree with first part. Ive read about it before and i think its true, a lot of pics dont do him any justice. Although for me on almost all of the comparison pics (apart from front double bi) i see he beats people with size and conditioning. People always post the worst front double bi pics of Dorian in a thread like this but like someone else said there are other poses and he wins the majority if not all.
The best way to compare i think is to watch vids of them comparing everyone one stage or the posedowns. Even in 97 his worst year, he looks massive and shredded.
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I personally prefered Flex's physique in 93, and 97 was a complete joke as well, not just because of his torn bicep but his body was a mess by that point. Some of the years inbetween not seen enough of to say for sure.
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[QUOTE=DavisForman;470518521]Haha, haven't been into bodybuilding all that long dude. I feel for the time, I have absorbed a hell of a lot of IFBB history, but the odd things like this catch me by surprise ;)
Did that legitimately happen? In that video his story seemed a bit sketchy. Not the attack itself but how he didn't really go into much detail and that he "refused" to go to the hospital. Why would you refuse medical attention?[/QUOTE]
Once you receive medical attention the the doctors can call the cops. That is the physician's right
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[QUOTE=AnarkyLost;470678391]Only thing you can make an arguement for is you like his abs more.....and having a 6 pack vs a 4 pack isnt something that gets judged. I like Ronnies non sythol arms. How about you?
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Wow I am a fan of flex but dam ronnie just destroys him in those pics.. Even ronnies arms a so far ahead in development of flex's.. For proportion and overall arm development no one comes close to ronnies arms ever!!!
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[QUOTE=Justin-27;470948581]22 of you voted none?
Are you fuking blind?
Not even 1993?
Jeezus.
EDIT: Dorian makes Shawn Ray look like a child. :D[/QUOTE]
Shawn Ray makes Dorian look like a bloated blob.
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[QUOTE=DylanDetrick;471080531]Shawn Ray makes Dorian look like a bloated blob.[/QUOTE]
Dorian wasnt bloated in 93. The only years he looked bloated were 96-97
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[QUOTE=DylanDetrick;471080531]Shawn Ray makes Dorian look like a bloated blob.[/QUOTE]
To be fair Ray would make a later Ronnie look the same way. He is one of the slimmest and tightest ever.
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Dorians waist in 95 was tight.
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