I have heard it is almost illegal, and there is a product very similiar to it that is illegal. I have also heard that it is more dangerous than steroids....? is this true
if anybody has any knowledge on this product it will be asppreciated
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I have heard it is almost illegal, and there is a product very similiar to it that is illegal. I have also heard that it is more dangerous than steroids....? is this true
if anybody has any knowledge on this product it will be asppreciated
It's the same active ingredient as halodrol. So, that means is a prohormone. DONT TAKE IT. YOU ARE TOO YOUNG. IT COULD PERMANENTLY SCREW UP YOUR TESTOSTERONE LEVELS BC YOUR ENDROCINE SYSTEM IS STILL DEVELOPING AT YOUR AGE. Part of the reason why that kind of stuff was banned bc people got severely ff-ed up taking that stuff since they didn't have knowledge of what a PCT and support supplements are. You could also get jaundice from this stuff. Don't take it. Stick with the basics at your age (protein, multivitamin, and fish oils) and your body will thank you later for it. If you take this, imagine yourself possibly having weak boners for the rest of your life.
haha thanks man...but no i wasnt really planning on taking it. I have a few friends that have tried it though, along with other pro hormones, and all they take is liver support pills. I try to tell them it is dangerous and can even be worse than steroids(supposedly) but everyone seems to not believe me on that.
[QUOTE=lifter3;16294531] I have also heard that it is more dangerous than steroids....? is this true
if anybody has any knowledge on this product it will be asppreciated[/QUOTE]
It is a steriod...and actually more dangerous then injectable steriod cycles due to its oral toxicity. You should not even consider this product until you are at least 21 or older.
[QUOTE=Steve0178;16297041]It is a steriod...and actually more dangerous then injectable steriod cycles due to its oral toxicity. You should not even consider this product until you are at least 21 or older.[/QUOTE]
True that. Tell your friends they weren't very smart about what they did. Ask the if they know what a PCT is. Also, don't even think about something like superdrol or methyl masterdrol bc theyre alot more harsh.
alright thanks alot
[QUOTE=ironhead184;16297461]True that. Tell your friends they weren't very smart about what they did. Ask the if they know what a PCT is. Also, don't even think about something like superdrol or methyl masterdrol bc theyre alot more harsh.[/QUOTE]
Yeah no kidding...your friends are pretty uneducated. If i was you i would smack them. you should try to get them on this forum so they can see for themselves. I know kids are stubborn and wont listen a lot of the times but maybe if they hear everyone on this forum telling them how stuiped it is they might listen.
i appreciate all this, is it just me or does it seem like now all the biggest or most of the biggest people all roid it? its like this in highschool anyway and i dont think people realise the risk involved with this
Why do you think that stuff is banned now? It's bc either some people were too young and screwed themselves up and/or people don't know much about how to cycle that stuff, including having a good PCT.
Search one google: "Superdrol for dummies" The info on there doesn't just apply to superdrol, it's what you gotta do for all prohormones.
Take care kid, and show your friends this forum. Theyre fortunate if they didn't sustain long terms damage.
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=519245&highlight=dummies[/url]
[QUOTE=Steve0178;16297041]It is a steriod...and actually more dangerous then injectable steriod cycles due to its oral toxicity. You should not even consider this product until you are at least 21 or older.[/QUOTE]
the man got a point here. Just research medline and superdrol and see what pops up.
[QUOTE=daveburton;16313971]the man got a point here. Just research medline and superdrol and see what pops up.[/QUOTE]
Its a Halodrol-50 Clone. Its liver toxicity isn't as much as SD but is more than PP. And I believe only a small part of its banning was that young people took them and got f***ed up... the rest could possibily be that it contains synthetic steriods? Just a thought...
ok so after reading all of this info im kind of scared about taking this stuff. I work out at xsport gym and im friends with the head of personal training. I was asking her about a testosterone pill or booster that i could take. She recomended halovar. I bought a bottle like an idiot without doing any research on it because i took her word. In someones oppinion how bad would doing 1 cycle be for a 22 year old with about two years of serious lifting experience?
[QUOTE=estckmix;17828381]ok so after reading all of this info im kind of scared about taking this stuff. I work out at xsport gym and im friends with the head of personal training. I was asking her about a testosterone pill or booster that i could take. She recomended halovar. I bought a bottle like an idiot without doing any research on it because i took her word. In someones oppinion how bad would doing 1 cycle be for a 22 year old with about two years of serious lifting experience?[/QUOTE]
I would say put it in a dark drawer and leave it there for a couple years.
[QUOTE=estckmix;17828381]ok so after reading all of this info im kind of scared about taking this stuff. I work out at xsport gym and im friends with the head of personal training. I was asking her about a testosterone pill or booster that i could take. She recomended halovar. I bought a bottle like an idiot without doing any research on it because i took her word. In someones oppinion how bad would doing 1 cycle be for a 22 year old with about two years of serious lifting experience?[/QUOTE]
If you took proper PCT as well as supporting supplements it wouldnt be that bad. Its a milder streriod. Since your 22 and your body has stopped growing (im assuming) the most damage you would do would be to your liver. If i were you i would check into something like the evolution stack or the NHA stack or the hypermass stack first. I think you have a lot of research to do before you start a steriod.
yeah i had no idea that it was a steroid..... i asked for a testosterone booster. Is there a good liver support pill i can take with it? Steroids are not what i wanted to do at all.
[QUOTE=estckmix;17883331]yeah i had no idea that it was a steroid..... i asked for a testosterone booster. Is there a good liver support pill i can take with it? Steroids are not what i wanted to do at all.[/QUOTE]
Yes there are several important liver support sups. Check out annobolic innovation's "cycle support" or thermolife's "liver longer". But honestly i wouldnt dive into that just yet. Check out the JW/BAM/Restore stack! (check my sig for a link to my review/log)
[QUOTE=estckmix;17828381]In someones oppinion how bad would doing 1 cycle be for a 22 year old [b]with about two years of serious lifting experience?[/b][/QUOTE]
i would recommend that you keep lifting and make sure to get your diet and training top notch before supplementing with a product like this. a product like this is best used when you've hit a plateau AFTER you have got your training and diet in check. then you will be able to take full advantage of what this product has to offer, because you never respond as well to supplements like this after the first time.
[QUOTE=music_man185;17977281]i would recommend that you keep lifting and make sure to get your diet and training top notch before supplementing with a product like this. a product like this is best used when you've hit a plateau AFTER you have got your training and diet in check. then you will be able to take full advantage of what this product has to offer, because you never respond as well to supplements like this after the first time.[/QUOTE]
Couldnt agree more!
:D (finally received steve-o's approval!!) lol.
[QUOTE=music_man185;17978461]:D (finally received steve-o's approval!!) lol.[/QUOTE]
lol whatever man! you always had it!
sweet!!
music_man185 = the man!! lol
ok thanks guys!
[QUOTE=estckmix;17828381]ok so after reading all of this info im kind of scared about taking this stuff. I work out at xsport gym and im friends with the head of personal training. I was asking her about a testosterone pill or booster that i could take. She recomended halovar. I bought a bottle like an idiot without doing any research on it because i took her word. In someones oppinion how bad would doing 1 cycle be for a 22 year old with about two years of serious lifting experience?[/QUOTE]
yea, halovar seems to be the big thing right now at xsport i talked to a couple staff members who have taken it and recommend it...im sure it'll be discontinued in a couple months if not sooner.
[QUOTE=Josh_877;18433061]yea, halovar seems to be the big thing right now at xsport i talked to a couple staff members who have taken it and recommend it...im sure it'll be discontinued in a couple months if not sooner.[/QUOTE]
wow..... no kidding
[QUOTE=Steve0178;17829701]If you took proper PCT as well as supporting supplements it wouldnt be that bad. Its a milder streriod. Since your 22 and your body has stopped growing (im assuming) the most damage you would do would be to your liver. If i were you i would check into something like the evolution stack or the NHA stack or the hypermass stack first. I think you have a lot of research to do before you start a steriod.[/QUOTE]
So im almost 16 and my friend took this and had no side effects so i decided to give it a try myself. Its been 2 months since ive taken it and I havnt had any visible side effects other than minor acne, but that also comes with me sweating a lot at the gym. Also someone mentioned earlier that you will have a weak erection, I havnt had any problems yet. Is this a side effect that can come much later in life?
delayed, weird and whacky sides are a very real and possibly dangerous with these relatively new and "Hip" desiger PH/PS.
halovar @ 15 ... lol ****ing moron. negs on recharge.
[QUOTE=T-DOT;95625573]So im almost 16 and my friend took this and had no side effects so i decided to give it a try myself. Its been 2 months since ive taken it and I havnt had any visible side effects other than minor acne, but that also comes with me sweating a lot at the gym. Also someone mentioned earlier that you will have a weak erection, I havnt had any problems yet. Is this a side effect that can come much later in life?[/QUOTE]
.... wtf...
that's all i got..
[QUOTE=niiick;95627883]delayed, weird and whacky sides are a very real and possibly dangerous with these relatively new and "Hip" desiger PH/PS.
[B]halovar @ 15 ... lol ****ing moron. negs[/B] on recharge.[/QUOTE]
x2 :(.. unfortunately
whats up im 18 and got a bottle of halovar for free i took it once before researching, obviously im not going to take it but ive been working out for a year n a half with a very good diet plan but i have extreme problems gaining mass, whats something other than halovar than would produce the mass gains ..?
[QUOTE=homegrown1100;99113551]whats up im 18 and got a bottle of halovar for free i took it once before researching, obviously im not going to take it but ive been working out for a year n a half with a very good diet plan but i have extreme problems gaining mass, whats something other than halovar than would produce the mass gains ..?[/QUOTE]
Well, thats pretty easy........ change your DIET. Eat more than what you are now... up the protein. Just do some searching on mass diets.
Anyway, I like how the OP changed his age to 23. ;)........uh, real nice.