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Methyldienolone
Guys I think this is going to be the next big thing. Here is some general info from another website....
Methyldienolone is the trademarked name for the prosteroid 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyestra-4,9(10)dien-3-one. Without a doubt, Methyldienolone is the most potent prosteroid ever developed and sold in the world to date as it is about 1.1X as anabolic as Methyl-1-Testosterone is while being only 15% as androgenic.
These characteristics allow Methyldienolone to cause the similar positive effects that Methyl-1-Testosterone users have reported with far fewer side effects. Additionally, because it is not a "1-ene" compound, the typical lethargy and mild depression found in users of Methyl-1-Testosterone and other 1-testosterone products is not present with Methyldienolone use. Due to it's fairly high Anabolic-to-Androgenic ration (A:A), the effects of Methyldienolone have been described by users as "Winstrol like" or "Winstrol Turbo" or "a hybrid between Parabolan and Winstrol".
This last comparison is right on the money as Methyldienolone is a very close chemical cousin to the most potent steroid on the planet bar none, that being methyltrenbolone (aka methyltrienolone). In fact, Methyldienolone is a close homolog of methyltrienolone, the singular difference between the two being a double bond at Carbon #11 found on methyltrienolone. So how potent is Methyldienolone? Users are recording fantastic gains in lean muscle mass and decreases in body fat with only 1-3mg per day.
This can be preordered now on the web. However, I highly recommend you purchase this compound from Sldge. He will have the compound available at the same time as the other site who currently has it listed. You will not be sorry waiting for Sldge. You will get more for your money.
Anyone have any comments about the compound? Anyone plan on running it when its available?
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EDog
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by legalgear [/i]
[B]You used to be my whore! You guys are all the same! ;)
EDog [/B][/QUOTE]
hahahaha.
You know I have mad love for Legal Gear products. I will always support LG :)
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Haha, that is great, Ill share him with you.
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I will always show love to those companies that help people out on the board and offer great products.
Eric if I remember correctly you do not have plans on coming out with Methyldienolone anytime soon......
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Am I at least a classy call girl whore...? :D
I would hate to be a street walker
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Here is some more info, posted by Loki over at avant.
There's really just very little out there about this compound, and I don't have the chemistry background to be able to tackle it from a 'structural' standpoint, but I'll try to throw out a few things so folks can get at least a rough sense of what it is we're talking about...
- MethylDienolone = 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyestra-4,9(10)dien-3-one. It's a 19-Nortestosterone derivative that's--for all intensive purposes--Methyl-Tren's 'little cousin;' add one more double-bond & you've got the 'ubersteroid' 17a-Methyl-17b-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-Trien-3-one.
- It is slightly less androgenic than 17aa-1-Test (I can validate this), but more anabolic according to lab assays (just how much more I don't know. I've found two different sets of 'research data' on it-- and both seem to undershoot the actual anabolic potency of the actual product in humans). A 'safe' estimate (i realize that's a big f'in oxymoron when it comes to 17aa-s but whatever...) is that it's 10x as anabolic as Methyl-1-Test.
- Once again, given tremendous structural similarities to Methyl-Tren, if you're gonna' worry about your liver on a 17aa-cycle, this is probably one to be warry of. Granted, I realize that changing a steroid molecule even slightly can completely alter its activity-profile, but man,
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WHo has it in stock now , Sledge are u taking orders etc. What are the dosages,what type of will it be oral or transdermal etc. How long will cycles run. All questions I would love to hear more about. Damn there is new **** comin gout every week, Dave from BSL told me about this
Sixpack
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Since I was the first person to ever use this stuff, I have to say I think it will replace M1T. No lethargy and a smaller dose makes this a much better find IMO. However the toxicity of it still is unknown at this point. I am having a couple of my testers get their blood work done while on and off this. I also have had one of the same guys get his bloodwork done while on M1T as well as few other goodies but for now I will keep that a hush hush.
Prolangtum loved the sample that I sent him, you can check out his info over at AM.
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I am going on a cutting cycle in 2 weeks and was wonder if this would be a better choice to use than m1-t? Also, I was going to use 1,4andro along with the m1-t. Would this go good with methyldienolone?
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I dont care what anyone tells anyone, you are getting it straight form the horses mouth, NO ONE HAS THIS IN STOCK. I wasnt going to take any preorders until I have it in my hands, or at least know it was sent out for me. I dont think it is good business to take orders on something when it is still 7 days away from being here.
When i have confirmation it was sent, I will then take preorders. So look sometime late next week.
I will be doing beta oral solutions (cheap) in the beginning for those who just cant wait, while the tabs are being pressed.
Dosing is 1-3mgs TOPS per day.
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Re: Methyldienolone
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NO MERCY [/i]
[B]Anyone plan on running it when its available? [/B][/QUOTE]
This is definitely the one that has my attention. I'll wait for some tests to be run first though.
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Methyl-Dien can have some progesterone activity, so you need to keep estrogen low, to minimse those sides.
DO NOT stack this with another methyl, this is an extremely strong compound, and will work great all by itself. I would still use nolva to keep estrogen low while using it, as for what you could stack it with, 5AA cyp, 5AA or 3AA would all work, and unless you had a very good AI (arimidex, letrozole) I wouldnt use it with 4ad.
Cycle length is still up in the air, I was the first person to use it, I used it for 4 weeks without problem, I dont remember how long Prolangtums sample lasted . So I would keep cycle length short, 3-4 weeks tops.
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Sldge,
You have any chemical/lab data you would be willing to let people look at? Or references (articles, books, etc).
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sldgehmr [/i]
[B]Methyl-Dien can have some progesterone activity, so you need to keep estrogen low, to minimse those sides.
DO NOT stack this with another methyl, this is an extremely strong compound, and will work great all by itself. I would still use nolva to keep estrogen low while using it, as for what you could stack it with, 5AA cyp, 5AA or 3AA would all work, and unless you had a very good AI (arimidex, letrozole) I wouldnt use it with 4ad.
Cycle length is still up in the air, I was the first person to use it, I used it for 4 weeks without problem, I dont remember how long Prolangtums sample lasted . So I would keep cycle length short, 3-4 weeks tops. [/B][/QUOTE]
Would this work with 1,4andro and should you use nolva during the cycle or keep it to the end?
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I can give you Vida values, although I dont agree with them fully. I feel it is much stronger then M1T, and his test show it to be slightly weaker.
androgenic anabolic
200 1000
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14andro can aromatise, so I would definetly use nova while on. But I dont think you would need to stack it, it is works great all by itself, it is very anabolic.
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No on the 1,4 andro! Be careful with stacking with any estrogenic compound.
EDog
Good luck with this. I think it will be good!
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I will try and get binding data...
Unfortnuately, there is no binding data for M1T so it is hard to tell. Vida's values are a joke though.
EDog
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sldgehmr [/i]
[B]I can give you Vida values, although I dont agree with them fully. I feel it is much stronger then M1T, and his test show it to be slightly weaker.
androgenic anabolic
200 1000 [/B][/QUOTE]
got the page number handy? i'm too lazy to flip through it atm :D
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that's what sucks
science behind all this stuff is really cool, but not much out there for the current stuff anyways.
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N-96
pg 285?
YOu dont want to use anything with a high amount of estrogen conversion soyou will want to stay away from stuff like 14add, 4 ad. But like I said before this will work well all by itself.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NO MERCY [/i]
[B]Eric if I remember correctly you do not have plans on coming out with Methyldienolone anytime soon...... [/B][/QUOTE]
Eric?
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There isnt much info cause no one has ever used it till last month or so.
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Yeah, what is this facination with stacking? This compound should need no additions... Anything else will just lower effectiveness most likely. For example, when I tried stacking 4-AD Cyp with M1T, the 4-AD Cyp overshadowed the M1T and I lost all gains from it.
EDog
NOMERCY - Want me to post the ingredients of Product X on here for you too? LOL Hey, you want some?
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by legalgear [/i]
[B]Yeah, what is this facination with stacking? This compound should need no additions... Anything else will just lower effectiveness most likely. For example, when I tried stacking 4-AD Cyp with M1T, the 4-AD Cyp overshadowed the M1T and I lost all gains from it.
EDog
NOMERCY - Want me to post the ingredients of Product X on here for you too? LOL Hey, you want some? [/B][/QUOTE]
You are ready to disclose Product X.....??? :D
Give me a PM and let me know what the deal is with X. Jeff has not told me jack about the product and neither have you. I am in the dark on this one. Peeps are excited for it though.
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Ready,
Product X ingredients.
1 grams of Horse poop
2 grams of hay
5 grams of pencil shavings
and last but not least
10 grams of Methyl Cow Poop.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by larmenta [/i]
[B]Ready,
Product X ingredients.
1 grams of Horse poop
2 grams of hay
5 grams of pencil shavings
and last but not least
10 grams of Methyl Cow Poop. [/B][/QUOTE]
F@#$ing awesome!!! Hey Larmenta while your at it do you want to also bust my balls. Eric should not be the only one to do so. :D
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sldgehmr [/i]
[B]I dont care what anyone tells anyone, you are getting it straight form the horses mouth, NO ONE HAS THIS IN STOCK. I wasnt going to take any preorders until I have it in my hands, or at least know it was sent out for me. I dont think it is good business to take orders on something when it is still 7 days away from being here.
When i have confirmation it was sent, I will then take preorders. So look sometime late next week.
I will be doing beta oral solutions (cheap) in the beginning for those who just cant wait, while the tabs are being pressed.
Dosing is 1-3mgs TOPS per day. [/B][/QUOTE]
Kilo does this all the time taking orders when they don't have the product. Pisses me off. Used to order from them alot, don't know if I will again.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by larmenta [/i]
[B]Ready,
Product X ingredients.
1 grams of Horse poop
2 grams of hay
5 grams of pencil shavings
and last but not least
10 grams of Methyl Cow Poop. [/B][/QUOTE]
lol
what's the status of X now? haven't heard much about it for a while.