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At the moment I tend to squat with barbell or Smith machine at around 35kg (77lb). I was wondering if I should up this at all...I mean, it can take my quads to failure after 4 sets or so of 15 reps, but on a leg press for example I can press 150kg (330lb), so should I be adding some weight to my squats? A bit worried that it might injure my shoulders/back if I do so though!
You should should for a double bodyweight barbell back squat of at least 1 rep.
Do what you can, that's the only real answer. If you feel what you're doing is too light, slowly add some weight if you're worried about injury.
what makes you think you will get injured using heavier weight? as long as your form is good you will not.
[QUOTE=TonnyeWest;841529821]At the moment I tend to squat with barbell or Smith machine at around 35kg (77lb). I was wondering if I should up this at all...I mean, it can take my quads to failure after 4 sets or so of 15 reps, but on a leg press for example I can press 150kg (330lb), so should I be adding some weight to my squats? A bit worried that it might injure my shoulders/back if I do so though![/QUOTE]
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Add more weight as needed. If you are getting good workouts with the weight you are doing, then I see no reason to do something different, that being said, experimenting with rep range is a good way to mix things up.
What is your goal?
I'm guessing hypertrophy. Once you feel comfortable with 10 reps, add a 10 on each side. Once you get comfortable with the new weight and can do 10 clean reps, then add another 10 on each side.
[QUOTE=GymMeathead;841612671]What is your goal?
I'm guessing hypertrophy. Once you feel comfortable with 10 reps, add a 10 on each side. Once you get comfortable with the new weight and can do 10 clean reps, then add another 10 on each side.[/QUOTE]
20 lbs might be a bit much to add at a time...
[QUOTE=Farley1324;841615031]20 lbs might be a bit much to add at a time...[/QUOTE]
If you can get 10 clean reps, you should be able to add 20 pounds. If not, just add 5's. But your legs are strong, and can move pretty quickly in weight.
[QUOTE=GymMeathead;841617961]If you can get 10 clean reps, you should be able to add 20 pounds. [/QUOTE]
And do what?
[QUOTE=Farley1324;841618891]And do what?[/QUOTE]
Squat. Isnt that what this thread is about. "How much should I squat?"
EDIT: I see where I confused you. I said 10 "clean" reps. I didnt mean the clean exercise, just comfortably with good form.
is this serious?40 kg on squat and 150 kg on leg press?i never leg press and i dont have an idea but isnt this too much of a gap?maybe u have a weak lower back but i guess ur just afraid(its ok if ur a begginer :) )
[QUOTE=TonnyeWest;841529821]At the moment I tend to squat with barbell or Smith machine at around 35kg (77lb). I was wondering if I should up this at all...I mean, it can take my quads to failure after 4 sets or so of 15 reps, but on a leg press for example I can press 150kg (330lb), so should I be adding some weight to my squats? A bit worried that it might injure my shoulders/back if I do so though![/QUOTE]
I'm just gonna leave this here:
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[QUOTE=GymMeathead;841617961]If you can get 10 clean reps, you should be able to add 20 pounds. If not, just add 5's. But your legs are strong, and can move pretty quickly in weight.[/QUOTE]
Not when 20 lbs is more than 25% of what he is lifting. If I added 25% to my 10RM I would be at close to my 1RM.
[QUOTE=GymMeathead;841621721]Squat. Isnt that what this thread is about. "How much should I squat?"
EDIT: I see where I confused you. I said 10 "clean" reps. I didnt mean the clean exercise, just comfortably with good form.[/QUOTE]
Telling somebody to add 20 lbs at a time to their squat is not something you ought to be doing.
I am well aware that you were referring to the squat and not the clean.
IMO you should use more weight indeed.
Just ask a trainer to watch your form and help you if needed.
[QUOTE=DaniSP;841743071]
Just ask a trainer to watch your form and help you if needed.[/QUOTE]
I strongly advise against this.
Better to host videos on youtube and post them up here.
[QUOTE=TonnyeWest;841529821]At the moment I tend to squat with barbell or Smith machine at around 35kg (77lb). I was wondering if I should up this at all...I mean, it can take my quads to failure after 4 sets or so of 15 reps, but on a leg press for example I can press 150kg (330lb), so should I be adding some weight to my squats? A bit worried that it might injure my shoulders/back if I do so though![/QUOTE]
do you squat with a narrow stance or wide stance?
you could prob max at 800. jk but yeah add weight if you want. are you trying to get stronger cuz if so hell yeah add weight. add once a week, 5-10 pounds
[QUOTE=Farley1324;841730731]Telling somebody to add 20 lbs at a time to their squat is not something you ought to be doing.
I am well aware that you were referring to the squat and not the clean.[/QUOTE]
Well to be more clear. Add 2.5 to 10 pounds on each side a week, and keep progressing. Don't get stuck on a weight, keep moving up in little increments.
[QUOTE=GymMeathead;841770291]Well to be more clear. Add 2.5 to 10 pounds on each side a week, and keep progressing. Don't get stuck on a weight, keep moving up in little increments.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Little increments. Not 20 lbs. ;)
Especially when, as mentioned above, 20 lbs is like 25%!
thanks guys - to be clear, I'm a complete beginner, if you hadn't guessed already, so advice is much appreciated! I've been cutting for the last 6-7 weeks but am now going to be looking to bulk, so my goal will be muscle mass and strength. I'll add on weight in low increments then, thanks!
[QUOTE=Farley1324;841730731]Telling somebody to add 20 lbs at a time to their squat is not something you ought to be doing.
I am well aware that you were referring to the squat and not the clean.[/QUOTE]
Dude, he's squatting like 60 pounds. Squatting all of 80 pounds will not kill him. Everybody should be able to squat at least their own body weight by virtue of nothing but retard strength and hate. There's no point in bothering with programming or slow progression until that baseline is met.
It's like training up from lifting a pencil to lifting a pink dumbbell, it's not something a normal healthy person should have to do.
I say OP should just go to the gym and max his squat every day until that point is reached, because you WILL reach that point and FAST unless there's something medically wrong with you.
[QUOTE=IDrinkBloodLOL;842504111]Dude, he's squatting like 60 pounds. Squatting all of 80 pounds will not kill him. [/quote]
Telling people to add 20 lbs to their squat at a time is ill advised. Dude.
[QUOTE=IDrinkBloodLOL;842504111]Everybody should be able to squat at least their own body weight by virtue of nothing but retard strength and hate.[/quote]
But not everybody can.
[QUOTE=IDrinkBloodLOL;842504111] There's no point in bothering with programming or slow progression until that baseline is met.[/quote]
Telling people to lift more than they are safely capable is stupid.
[QUOTE=IDrinkBloodLOL;842504111]It's like training up from lifting a pencil to lifting a pink dumbbell, it's not something a normal healthy person should have to do.[/quote]
There are plenty of normal healthy people that do not belong starting out by squatting for reps with their bodyweight.
There are also normal healthy people who cannot squat their bodyweight at all.
That is the way it is.
[QUOTE=IDrinkBloodLOL;842504111]
I say OP should just go to the gym and max his squat every day until that point is reached, because you WILL reach that point and FAST unless there's something medically wrong with you.[/QUOTE]
Telling a rank novice to max out on the squat, let alone every day, is fuking retarded. Please stop being fuking retarded.
[QUOTE=TonnyeWest;841529821]At the moment I tend to squat with barbell or Smith machine at around 35kg (77lb). I was wondering if I should up this at all...I mean, it can take my quads to failure after 4 sets or so of 15 reps, but on a leg press for example I can press 150kg (330lb), so should I be adding some weight to my squats? A bit worried that it might injure my shoulders/back if I do so though![/QUOTE]
Have you never worked legs before? A fifteen year old is squatting and leg pressing more than you. As long as you have proper form and dont have joint problems (even if you do, such as myself) add weight until your in 6-10 rep range. if you get pain, check form and rest, then use a comfortable weight for higher reps. youll be at bodyweight and higher in no time. squat probably twice a week if you can, or do weighted one day and bodyweight another.
[QUOTE=TonnyeWest;841888021]thanks guys - to be clear, I'm a complete beginner, if you hadn't guessed already, so advice is much appreciated! I've been cutting for the last 6-7 weeks but am now going to be looking to bulk, so my goal will be muscle mass and strength. I'll add on weight in low increments then, thanks![/QUOTE]
Why are you cutting if your a "complete beginner"?