Recent Ronnie Interview & His Thoughts On Jay's Chances At The 2013 O

[url]http://www.fitnesssutra.com/2012/11/21/exclusive-interview-with-8x-mr-olympia-ronnie-coleman-in-singapore/[/url]

Ronnie recently came to my country, Singapore, and one of the supplement companies here interviewed him.

Thought I would share this part of the interview, which to me was the more interesting one,

" Xue En: Yea, that’s true. There is some tough competition but Shawn definitely stood out this year with his size and conditioning. Yet Jay Cutler is coming back next year where he didn’t compete this year due to an injury. What are the chances that Shawn can beat all the other pros?

Ronnie Coleman: Cutler is old. (laughs) He’s just trying to come back so that he can promote his new line of products. It’s just a marketing move. He ain’t winning because he’s already 40 years old. He has had his time and the one thing about bodybuilding is that you can’t turn back the hands of time once your body has exceeded a certain level and he has maxed out his weight gain, his shape, his symmetry and his cell receptors. He can’t rebuild his cell receptors. It’s not like a car or a machine where you can just change the old parts and get it running as good as new again. It is just pretty much the same old body doing the same old thing and it gets weaker and weaker. Your body produces a lot less testosterone each and every single year no matter who you are. We are all human, nobody is super human. He’s basically just coming back because of his supplement line. That was what he was telling me. He would definitely not be able to compete with Phil and Kai who are both in their thirties. And I’m definitely going to take Shawn’s body to another level. I know exactly what is needed to do that. My money is definitely on Shawn. "

Interesting that he would talk about receptors so candidly.

''so that he can promote his new line of products''
ouch

Jay's not that old. He's 39, while Shawn and Kai are both 37.

[QUOTE=Pullup17;982784903]And I’m definitely going to take Shawn’s body to another level. I know exactly what is needed to do that. [/QUOTE]


I think we all know what hes talking about here














THIS!

[youtube]oFmW_TUWK40[/youtube]

"you can’t turn back the hands of time once your body has exceeded a certain level and he has maxed out his weight gain, his shape, his symmetry and his cell receptors"

[b]receptors[/b]

Does Jay need some ice for that BURN!

Heath is winning anyway........I am not a heath fan or hater.........i really nothing the guy.........but Evan is not ready......the musletech/IFBB gods don't want kai has their face........branch is just a ugly looking human..........wolf will never live up to his potential and has no calves and roid gut.

Shawn is not winning. The seems obvious to me

ouch, indeed. I think Jay can do well, I wouldn't count him out yet.

lol whut? ronnie was competing in his 40s and doing just fine..jay doesnt have the injuries ronnie had..and im pretty sure that guy dexter jackson and freeman have something to say about that too...ronnie just sounds butthurt IMO

questioning the validity of the interview, no offense but from the videos of ronnie i've seen, his linguistic and vocabulary skills aren't as good as what I'm reading here lol

[QUOTE=oneshotGG;982830293]questioning the validity of the interview, no offense but from the videos of ronnie i've seen, his linguistic and vocabulary skills aren't as good as what I'm reading here lol[/QUOTE]

I thought about this too but I guess the interviewer just let's say...legalized his vocabulary.

6 daughters... shiiiiiiiiiiiit

[QUOTE=TTimmerman;982859073]6 daughters... shiiiiiiiiiiiit[/QUOTE]

Guess he hasn't maxed out his receptors....

heh...Correct me if I am wrong, but Ronnie won 2 of his O's in his 40's, (both at 40 and 41)...40, ironically, being the same age Jay will be come 2013 Olympia.

As a side not, Kai is also only 2 years younger than Jay, Kai will be 38 for the 2013 O and Jay will have just turned 40 in August for the September 2013 O. Heath I get, he is younger but Kai and Jay are basically in the same realm age wise.

I am definitely not counting Jay out. He has had a year off to rest and isn't/wasn't looking beaten up at his last O imho - he still gave Phil a run with the torn bicep and all.

It's simple, Jay will go with the mass game because he won't and can't beat Heath or Kai at a lighter conditioned weight. Jay has the freaky mass/width on his side as something Heath and Kai cannot obtain, at least not by Sep 2013, so if Jay comes in large and diced, he has a legitimate shot imho.

Jay's [b]never[/b] winning another O. Top 3 at best (he comes in and amazes everyone that he looks the way he does).

Cutler is old. (laughs) He’s just trying to come back so that he can promote his new line of products.

Sorry Ronnie, but didn't you do the same thing? Hinting at competing again and knowing that you won't step on a stage again to compete?

[QUOTE=oneshotGG;982830293]questioning the validity of the interview, no offense but from the videos of ronnie i've seen, his linguistic and vocabulary skills aren't as good as what I'm reading here lol[/QUOTE]

I jus't don't think ronnie would say that stuff, especially about receptors

If that is a legitimate interview from Coleman for which i have my doubts, then he was very unprofessional and very very hypocritical !!

[QUOTE=Pullup17;982784903] He can’t rebuild his [B]dat dere cell tech[/B] receptors. [/QUOTE]Fixed. Ronnie still can't use the misc lingo properly, shame on him.

6 daughters? Wasn't there a lady on here posting saying that Ronnie is the father to her son? She posted pics of Ronnie at his football games and graduation.

He should shut the f up.

"Mr Comeback" himself talking s*it.

[QUOTE=LelandAustin;982932213]6 daughters? Wasn't there a lady on here posting saying that Ronnie is the father to her son? She posted pics of Ronnie at his football games and graduation.[/QUOTE]

this... also thought he had atleast 1 son

[QUOTE=TTimmerman;982935503]this... also thought he had atleast 1 son[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2mi3ya.jpg[/IMG]

i really hope that on the way with ronnie helping shawn his waist doesn't blow up because of some of ronnie's advice. not hating on ronnie i just want shawn to keep his streamlined physique.

so many lols in this thread, and so many good posts.

doesn't anyone else think Rhoden is too old to advance to that "next level" Ronnie is referring to? he may get one or two olympias under his belt but anything more than that seems unrealistic, the dudes 38 and i can't see him beating Heath or Kai any time soon

[QUOTE=endurancell;983081473]so many lols in this thread, and so many good posts.

doesn't anyone else think Rhoden is too old to advance to that "next level" Ronnie is referring to? he may get one or two olympias under his belt but anything more than that seems unrealistic, the dudes 38 and i can't see him beating Heath or Kai any time soon[/QUOTE]

1-2 olympias seems far fetched to me

[QUOTE=TTimmerman;982935503]this... also thought he had atleast 1 son[/QUOTE]

dat dere not acknowledging my son to avoid explaining he was conceived via statutory rape

[QUOTE=Pullup17;982784903][url]http://www.fitnesssutra.com/2012/11/21/exclusive-interview-with-8x-mr-olympia-ronnie-coleman-in-singapore/[/url]

Ronnie recently came to my country, Singapore...

And I’m definitely going to take Shawn’s body to another level. I know exactly what is needed to do that. My money is definitely on Shawn. "

...[/QUOTE]

JAY is not the story here...

big ron is (IMO) alluding to doing to SHAWN what he did to himself in '98. imagine if coleman can improve shawn '12-'13 the same way ron improved himself from '97'-'98!!!!

[QUOTE=endurancell;983081473]so many lols in this thread, and so many good posts.

doesn't anyone else think Rhoden is too old to advance to that "next level" Ronnie is referring to? he may get one or two olympias under his belt but anything more than that seems unrealistic, the dudes 38 and i can't see him beating Heath or Kai any time soon[/QUOTE]

My own theory is that your age is less important than how long you've been competing and blasting drugs at a championship level.

Believe it or not, Shawn only turned pro 3 years ago. Despite his age, he's made massive improvements since then.

ronnie can't string together thoughts remotely resembling op's copy paste

[QUOTE=BartPimpson;983096273]My own theory is that your age is less important than how long you've been competing and blasting drugs at a championship level.

Believe it or not, Shawn only turned pro 3 years ago. Despite his age, he's made massive improvements since then.[/QUOTE]

this

which is why i believe ronnie kept improving at 40, 41. even at 42 yrs old he looked freakier except for his injured lat... b/c he ran everywhere until dobson got him a bike in his late 20s. same reason kai will keep improving for a while. same reason tony freeman is still relevant at almost 50.

All these comments counting Jay out are very reminiscent of the ones made after he lost the title to Dexter in 08, if anyone can do it it's Jay.

And I can't see Shawn winning a single Olympia never mind two..

[QUOTE=Larfleeze;983144313]All these comments counting Jay out are very reminiscent of the ones made after he lost the title to Dexter in 08, [/QUOTE]

Indeed, but the situation is different. Dex won, but everybody knew that if jay was on he would beat dex. I don't think the same can be said for phil/kai. Plus the bicep injury and deflated left shoulder (although the shoulder issue was not recent, it became more aparent in 2011).

Guess we will have to wait and see but i surely wouldn't make the mistake of counting jay out.

[QUOTE=MaKaiser;982891553]If that is a legitimate interview from Coleman for which i have my doubts, then he was very unprofessional and very very hypocritical !![/QUOTE]


Agreed. Something is not quite right imho. Either parts of the interview were perhaps paraphrased and/or parts perhaps taken out of context et. Just really does not seem like anything Ronnie would say unless he said it as some kind of a friendly, sarcastic jab et. and it was taken literally. It did make him come off as very unprofessional, hypocritical and just sounding like a bitter, jack ass and I have never seen/heard/read Ronnie sound like that in my life. He is probably the most happy and funny guy out there, he and Antoine imho.

So I take this interview and his comments towards Jay with a definite grain of salt.

[QUOTE=Unbiasedfan;983152083]Indeed, but the situation is different. Dex won, but everybody knew that if jay was on he would beat dex. I don't think the same can be said for phil/kai. Plus the bicep injury and deflated left shoulder (although the shoulder issue was not recent, it became more aparent in 2011).

Guess we will have to wait and see but i surely wouldn't make the mistake of counting jay out.[/QUOTE]

Thing is also this,

Heath has never beat a 100% on Jay.
Heath was not as good in '12 as he was in '11.
An '09 Jay beats a '12 Heath and '12 Kai imho.
An '09 Jay also beats an '11 Heath but it would be one heck of a battle. Again just my opinion.

Like Jay said in the interview, he came back in '09 looking so good because people counted him out and said he was over. He said he has the exact same feeling as of this moment that he did after the '08 Olympia when everyone said he was done. He is one of those athletes that feeds off of the masses telling him he can't, he is too old, not good enough anymore et. He loves the challenge clearly. At the end of the day, it should be a great show regardless of outcome.

[QUOTE=Canuck77;983158933]Thing is also this,

Heath has never beat a 100% on Jay.
Heath was not as good in '12 as he was in '11.
An '09 Jay beats a '12 Heath and '12 Kai imho.
An '09 Jay also beats an '11 Heath but it would be one heck of a battle. Again just my opinion.

Like Jay said in the interview, he came back in '09 looking so good because people counted him out and said he was over. He said he has the exact same feeling as of this moment that he did after the '08 Olympia when everyone said he was done. He is one of those athletes that feeds off of the masses telling him he can't, he is too old, not good enough anymore et. He loves the challenge clearly. At the end of the day, it should be a great show regardless of outcome.[/QUOTE]

The thing is that at the same time he says the last week of prep is where he makes it or breaks it. So basicly it has little to do with motivation and more to do with getting the right choices at those last days.

I think both phil and kai would give him one hell of a fight. Lets hope he comes at his best, sure would make the contest even more interesting.

Ron banged a 15 yr old at 28.

hmm i did think the interview was legit solely because of the wording of this sentence

"At the time I was pretty poor and couldn’t afford no gym membership so I told him ok" "couldn’t afford no gym membership" "afford no gym membership"

but yeah i though he had more kids and a son for sure

[QUOTE=Unbiasedfan;983152083]Indeed, but the situation is different. Dex won, but everybody knew that if jay was on he would beat dex. I don't think the same can be said for phil/kai. Plus the bicep injury and deflated left shoulder (although the shoulder issue was not recent, it became more aparent in 2011).

Guess we will have to wait and see but i surely wouldn't make the mistake of counting jay out.[/QUOTE]

The problem is it's pretty much impossible to predict what Jay is going to look like, hopefully he's had enough time off for the bicep and delt to heal but whether or not he can bring them back up to their former size is another matter, the same goes for his quads

If he somehow manages to come in in 01/06/09 shape I can't see Phil or Kai beating him though (unlikely of course but one can dream..)

[QUOTE=StevieMe;983179143]Ron banged a 15 yr old at 28.[/QUOTE]

da fuq... any charges? never knew this!

[QUOTE=BartPimpson;983096273]My own theory is that your age is less important than how long you've been competing and blasting drugs at a championship level.

Believe it or not, Shawn only turned pro 3 years ago. Despite his age, he's made massive improvements since then.[/QUOTE]

Very strong point. 38 is a baby in the iron game. What should be said is when you're winning IFBB status at 22, only THEN will 38 be old as dirt.

So in Jay's case. Yes old haha.

Anyone else find it odd that RC is talking "receptors" then immediately after mentions "test declining with age." Me thinks natural test production is NOTT important in the IFBB game. ;)

[QUOTE=tomcardno1;983187833]da fuq... any charges? never knew this![/QUOTE]

girls family gave blessing. thats her in the pic with ronnie and his son on the football field

[QUOTE=Pullup17;982784903][url]http://www.fitnesssutra.com/2012/11/21/exclusive-interview-with-8x-mr-olympia-ronnie-coleman-in-singapore/[/url]

Ronnie recently came to my country, Singapore, and one of the supplement companies here interviewed him.

Thought I would share this part of the interview, which to me was the more interesting one,

" Xue En: Yea, that’s true. There is some tough competition but Shawn definitely stood out this year with his size and conditioning. Yet Jay Cutler is coming back next year where he didn’t compete this year due to an injury. What are the chances that Shawn can beat all the other pros?

Ronnie Coleman: Cutler is old. (laughs) He’s just trying to come back so that he can promote his new line of products. It’s just a marketing move. He ain’t winning because he’s already 40 years old. He has had his time and the one thing about bodybuilding is that you can’t turn back the hands of time once your body has exceeded a certain level and he has maxed out his weight gain, his shape, his symmetry and his cell receptors. He can’t rebuild his cell receptors. It’s not like a car or a machine where you can just change the old parts and get it running as good as new again. It is just pretty much the same old body doing the same old thing and it gets weaker and weaker. Your body produces a lot less testosterone each and every single year no matter who you are. We are all human, nobody is super human. He’s basically just coming back because of his supplement line. That was what he was telling me. He would definitely not be able to compete with Phil and Kai who are both in their thirties. And I’m definitely going to take Shawn’s body to another level. I know exactly what is needed to do that. My money is definitely on Shawn. "

Interesting that he would talk about receptors so candidly.[/QUOTE]

where's the audio for this?

doesn't read like anything the way ron coleman talks.

and talking about body producing testosterone? lol that's a joke, IFBB competitors don't care how much testosterone their body produces. ronnie surely knows that... lol

[QUOTE=u5711;983254273]where's the audio for this?

doesn't read like anything the way ron coleman talks.

and talking about body producing testosterone? lol that's a joke, IFBB competitors don't care how much testosterone their body produces. ronnie surely knows that... lol[/QUOTE]

Yup, I felt that way too when I read the interview, I used Ronnie's voice and spoke the words that were written in the article, through my head and I just could not imagine Ronnie speaking like that. Anyway, it might be because one of Ronnie's supps is a test booster, which is why he is talking about declining test levels so as to boost his sales for his product, Testogen-XR.

we mister now.

Looks like Ronnie is going to get shawn to put masterpiece bbq sauce on all his meals from now on.

Ronnie is talking out of his as* again to remain relevant. Honestly, Jay Cutler, still looks impressive, whereas Ronnie Coleman looks bad, out of shape, and in need of a reality check to make him realize he has aged like a sun-dried turd on a hot summer day. Jay Cutler will be back. Plus, just take a look at Dexter Jackson's recent placing. I think Jay Cutler and Dexter Jackson don't train the way Ronnie did, and this has allowed them to remain competitive. Ronnie may be b*tthurt, lol. Quick! Someone call the wambulance.

Regardless of it being fairly accurate, that was a terribly unprofessional thing to say of a man who rivaled you your whole career, who is a class act, and who does a lot for the sport.

[QUOTE=SwolenONE;983513923]that was a terribly unprofessional thing to say[/QUOTE]And what would have been more professional instead? Woo guys, he's gonna win it fo sho?

Professionalism and political correctness make the sport bland and sterile.

This interview is as legit as Aarob Singermans story about Dan Hill punching his gf @ Fibo

[QUOTE=StevieMe;983179143]Ron banged a 15 yr old at 28.[/QUOTE]
???
The only charges I knew he was accused for is this one ;

[IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/14vmkon.jpg[/IMG]