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I've read so many different threads in which some people say Creapure is Micronized and some say that Creapure is micronized. If that is the case though, what is the difference?
Then, which ones would you recommend? What is the best quality/most effective brand for the best deal?
Creapure is about purity. Prolab and AllMax sell Creapure creatine monohydrate.
Then, what which ones would you recommend? What is the best quality/most effective brand for the best deal?[/QUOTE]
If you want just a basis creatine I would recommend Prolab's creapure, if you want something different I would go with sizeon by gasari.
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But is Creapure micronized? lol Micronized Creatine is formulated to absorb into your muscles faster correct?
I'm getting either Animal Pump or Pre-Surge as my main Creatine I am just purchasing this for off-days.
And, if I go with Pre-Surge which IS Creapure then should I get some Creatine Ethyl Ester to stack with it on off-days as to have both types in my Supplements instead of stacking the same thing?
The search function is your friend. YOu would have turned up this post:
[QUOTE=dvsness;277023701]Creapure does not mean micronized. Degussa does not make a micronized product.
The specification of Creapure is subject to strict requirements. Creapure is tested for impurities using high pressure liquid chromatography (HPLC).
Typical analytical values for Creapure:
Creatine monohydrate: min. 99.95%
Creatinine: < 67 ppm (below the limit of detection)
Dicyandiamide (DCD): < 30 ppm
Dihydrotriazine (DHT): not detectable
Creapure is a registered trademark and a registered logo.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277170461]I've read so many different threads in which some people say Creapure is Micronized and some say that Creapure is micronized. If that is the case though, what is the difference?
Then, which ones would you recommend? What is the best quality/most effective brand for the best deal?[/QUOTE]
Plain and simple. Get the best of both worlds.
Get Optimum Nutrition's Micronized Creatine. They use CreaPure for it and micronize it as well. Only Prolab and Optimum Nutrition sell CreaPure according to CreaPures website, and Optimum Nutrition is the only one that offers it micronized :)
[QUOTE=dvsness;51142181]Prolab's Creapure isn't micronized nor should it be. We buy our creatine from Degussa (best quality in the world) and it is "crystalline" (which is pretty much the opposite of 'micronized').
You would only need to micronize something if you have a tough time dissolving it in water. The solubility of our creatine in water is very high.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3160641[/url]
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277173981]But is Creapure micronized? lol Micronized Creatine is formulated to absorb into your muscles faster correct?
I'm getting either Animal Pump or Pre-Surge as my main Creatine I am just purchasing this for off-days.
And, if I go with Pre-Surge which IS Creapure then should I get some Creatine Ethyl Ester to stack with it on off-days as to have both types in my Supplements instead of stacking the same thing?[/QUOTE]
From my experience I would go with PreSurge which has tarragon to increase creatine-skeletal muscle delivery before workouts... off days you could include some Prolab Creapure, but long term simply taking a great creatine product every workout day should maintain optimum muscular creatine stores. I would avoid CEE.
[QUOTE=Murcielago Dago;277178261]Plain and simple. Get the best of both worlds.
Get Optimum Nutrition's Micronized Creatine. They use CreaPure for it and micronize it as well. Only Prolab and Optimum Nutrition sell CreaPure according to CreaPures website, and Optimum Nutrition is the only one that offers it micronized :)[/QUOTE]
PreSurge from AEN uses Creapure and they include Russian Tarragon just like a recent study from the ISSN did, showing better effect from the combo than without the tarragon. PreSurge also has the GMP label of quality.
[QUOTE=Murcielago Dago;277178261]Plain and simple. Get the best of both worlds.
Get Optimum Nutrition's Micronized Creatine. They use CreaPure for it and micronize it as well. Only Prolab and Optimum Nutrition sell CreaPure according to CreaPures website, and Optimum Nutrition is the only one that offers it micronized :)[/QUOTE]
Is this true? is it actually both? And can you provide me a link to it because I can't find it in the store for some reason.
Would Prolab be as good as Micronized then? Even if it is naturally pure I can't see it being the same as manually filtering everything bad out.
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277182011]Is this true? is it actually both? And can you provide me a link to it because I can't find it in the store for some reason.
Would Prolab be as good as Micronized then? Even if it is naturally pure I can't see it being the same as manually filtering everything bad out.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is true. It is actually both. Here is the link:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/crea.html[/url]
Their qualities will be identical. The Optimum Nutrition will absorb faster (and arguably more efficiently) since its micronized BUT it is more money.
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sport/justcreatine.html[/url]
Micronized Creapure brand creatine (at one hell of a price)
If your preference is one over the other, then I would go w/ creapure.
I thought someone said only Prolab and Optimum sell Creapure?....
Creapure is just a trademark for a German manufactured creatine monohydrate. Three countries mass produce raw creatine: Germany, China, and the US. Of those three, Germany (AlzChem manufacturer) produces the purest creatine without impurities. Several brands use Creapure such as Prolab, Optimum Nutrition, Allmax, Kaizen, Sportpharma, etc. Of those, Optimum Nutrition, Allmax, Kaizen, and Sportpharma offer micronized version.
"Micronized" is a process that makes the particles 10-20 smaller. It claims to be more efficient and have better absorption due to the greater surface area, but I don't think there's data to prove, only in theory. It does have better mixability, however.
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277188871]I thought someone said only Prolab and Optimum sell Creapure?....[/QUOTE]
They are actually the only two brands registered on their website, but they still distribute Creapure to other US manufacturers as I stated above.
Is there a difference between pill form and powder form in terms of absorption? I noticed most major Creatine products seem to be in powder form so I am wondering.
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277201591]Is there a difference between pill form and powder form in terms of absorption? I noticed most major Creatine products seem to be in powder form so I am wondering.[/QUOTE]
No difference. However, pill forms are more expensive. Go with powder and have ~5g with your post-workout protein shake.
I have decided to take Pre-Surge as my main Creatine. I've already tried Animal Pump and had wonderful results but Pre-Surge has caught my eye and I really want to give it a go. Would I need to take any of the Creatine Mono after my workout with Presurge? I believe it contains 3g but the suggested dose is 5g per day right?
And is there a specific one you would recommend? I am thinking about going with the Sportpharma brand as of now.
AND (lol) when I take it on off days (cardio days for me) what should I take it with? Can I just pour the powder in my mouth and wash it down with water or is something better for this?
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277207201]I have decided to take Pre-Surge as my main Creatine. I've already tried Animal Pump and had wonderful results but Pre-Surge has caught my eye and I really want to give it a go. Would I need to take any of the Creatine Mono after my workout with Presurge? I believe it contains 3g but the suggested dose is 5g per day right?
And is there a specific one you would recommend? I am thinking about going with the Sportpharma brand as of now.[/QUOTE]
3g (or as low as 2g) is sufficient to maintain saturation. A popular option is take PreSurge on workout days and monohydrate on off days. It's really up to you.
SportPharma has the best deal so I would go for that.
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277207201]I have decided to take Pre-Surge as my main Creatine. I've already tried Animal Pump and had wonderful results but Pre-Surge has caught my eye and I really want to give it a go. Would I need to take any of the Creatine Mono after my workout with Presurge? I believe it contains 3g but the suggested dose is 5g per day right?
And is there a specific one you would recommend? I am thinking about going with the Sportpharma brand as of now.
AND (lol) when I take it on off days (cardio days for me) what should I take it with? Can I just pour the powder in my mouth and wash it down with water or is something better for this?[/QUOTE]
3-5g of creatine daily is all you need. So you could just use presurge on your workout days, and then on your off days if you want, some bulk creatine but it is not necessary.
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277207201]I have decided to take Pre-Surge as my main Creatine. I've already tried Animal Pump and had wonderful results but Pre-Surge has caught my eye and I really want to give it a go. Would I need to take any of the Creatine Mono after my workout with Presurge? I believe it contains 3g but the suggested dose is 5g per day right?
And is there a specific one you would recommend? I am thinking about going with the Sportpharma brand as of now.
AND (lol) when I take it on off days (cardio days for me) what should I take it with? Can I just pour the powder in my mouth and wash it down with water or is something better for this?[/QUOTE]
If you are taking PreSurge 4-5x a week, no additional creatine will be needed.
[QUOTE=ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION;277270141]If you are taking PreSurge 4-5x a week, no additional creatine will be needed.[/QUOTE]
Just picked up a bottle of PreSurge and a tub of Sportpharma Just-Creatine to go along with it. ;)
What is the best way to take the Creatine Mono on off-days? just dump it in my mouth and wash it down with water or is there something better to take it with?
Thanks for all the help by the way guys.
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277274201]What is the best way to take the Creatine Mono on off-days? just dump it in my mouth and wash it down with water or is there something better to take it with?
Thanks for all the help by the way guys.[/QUOTE]
I just throw it in protein shake, drink it, thats about it. You can throw it in juice or really anything.
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277274201]What is the best way to take the Creatine Mono on off-days? just dump it in my mouth and wash it down with water or is there something better to take it with?
Thanks for all the help by the way guys.[/QUOTE]
On your off days, as a maintenance dose, you can take the Just-Creatine with water, juice, protein shake, etc.
[QUOTE=eldawg;277171861]Creapure is about purity. Prolab and AllMax sell Creapure creatine monohydrate.[/QUOTE]
ISATORI have creapure creatine too
PVL Mutant do Creatine that is Creapure......about 300g tubs that have 75 servings felt the energy increase the minute I took that stuff
[QUOTE=Neopragmatist;277191981]Creapure is just a trademark for a German manufactured creatine monohydrate. Three countries mass produce raw creatine: Germany, China, and the US. Of those three, Germany (AlzChem manufacturer) produces the purest creatine without impurities. Several brands use Creapure such as Prolab, Optimum Nutrition, Allmax, Kaizen, Sportpharma, etc. Of those, Optimum Nutrition, Allmax, Kaizen, and Sportpharma offer micronized version.
"Micronized" is a process that makes the particles 10-20 smaller. It claims to be more efficient and have better absorption due to the greater surface area, but I don't think there's data to prove, only in theory. It does have better mixability, however.[/QUOTE] Very informative and well said, and happy i am using allmax brand creatine.
thread from 2009 and claims of instant energy from creatine
thread is full of win :D
[QUOTE=Rob1882;1200120251]thread from 2009 and claims of instant energy from creatine
thread is full of win :D[/QUOTE]been ALOT of thread bumping today
[QUOTE=Necrodeath;1200104751]PVL Mutant do Creatine that is Creapure......about 300g tubs that have 75 servings [B]felt the energy increase the minute I took that stuff[/B][/QUOTE]
Perfect example of the placebo effect
[QUOTE=Necrodeath;1200104751]PVL Mutant do Creatine that is Creapure......about 300g tubs that have 75 servings felt the energy increase the minute I took that stuff[/QUOTE]
LOL! Nice placebo effect bro, since creatine offers 0% energy, good stuff.
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277170461]I've read so many different threads in which some people say Creapure is Micronized and some say that Creapure is micronized. If that is the case though, what is the difference?
Then, which ones would you recommend? What is the best quality/most effective brand for the best deal?[/QUOTE]
Creapure is a trademarked brand of Creatine Monohydrate, trademarked by its German manufacturer. It does not differentiate whether the product is micronised or not. It differentiates only how it is tested to establish its level of purity. Creapure is a brand name of one form of Creatine Monohydrate that just so happens to be the most reliable and the most studied, therefore the most trusted.
Microinised Creatine is Creatine that has gone through the process of breaking the Creatine down to smaller parts in order to make it more water soluble and easier absorbed. A micronisation of Creatine can be done with any Creatine, not just Creapure brand Creatine.
[QUOTE=CROSSFIRE24;277201591]Is there a difference between pill form and powder form in terms of absorption? I noticed most major Creatine products seem to be in powder form so I am wondering.[/QUOTE]
No difference whatsoever. The capsule has the exact same Creatine Monohydrate powder inside it. The only difference is the delivery mechanism - instead of using a teaspoon, stirring the powder into a glass of water and drinking it, a capsule is just swallowed whole. At the end you still end up with the same thing in your stomach only by different means. Capsules are made to be more convenient but they're also quite a bit more expensive.
Doesnt matter these days