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[QUOTE=SV1000]This is question for both sides of the arguement.
What studies show that metabolism is permanently slowed down or "damaged" by months of low calorie dieting? It makes no sense at all that our body would permanently reprogram our metabolism. If this were true, the inverse would apply as well. We would raise our metabolism by exercising for a few months and then forget about exercising forever because our permanently increased metabolism would make us a fat burning machine.[/QUOTE]
I'm kind of busy right now, but check out [url]www.pubmed.com[/url] for studies. It's a known fact that people's metabolisms slow with time naturally, dieting or not dieting, but if you do diet, the body adapts quicker to this process of expending less calories. Exercise technically slows down metabolism, but it doesn't appear that way since your body burns calories during that activity so the net result is positive.
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[QUOTE=ethoxidenuc]I'm kind of busy right now, but check out [url]www.pubmed.com[/url] for studies. It's a known fact that people's metabolisms slow with time naturally, dieting or not dieting, but if you do diet, the body adapts quicker to this process of expending less calories. Exercise technically slows down metabolism, but it doesn't appear that way since your body burns calories during that activity so the net result is positive.[/QUOTE]
I'm to busy to search the site for what I know is not true...aside from fact that metabolism slows down as we age, dieting does not permanently lower metabolism and excercise does not permanently raise metabolism.
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[url]http://scholar.google.com/url?sa=U&q=http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/68/3/599.pdf[/url]
[url]http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/71/6/1495[/url]
[url]http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/69/6/1117[/url]
[url]http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/260/1/47[/url]
You stated "excercise does not permanently raise metabolism" you're right, and I said it lowered metabolism, so why did you need to reaffirm my statement?
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You missed one key word, I said permanent.
The studies, and I honestly didn't read them all but skimmed a few quickly, did not indicate what the patients were eating. But there is a difference between a sub-1000 calorie a day fast with protein, and another with carbohydrates. A sharp medical student can find these studies as well ;)
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No, there's honestly no difference. It's the act of catabolic weight loss that does it as well as a lowered leptin level.
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Catabolic weight loss and a lowered leptin level permanently lowers metabolism? I honestly did not know that.
Are you a medical student or a chemistry student or neither?
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Chemistry major (graduating in dec06) and complete loser who researches too many things.
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Since july 2008 i have been doing the 1000 calorie diet, haven't exercised much besides doing lots of walking and i have lost 98lbs. That's just in 5 and a bit months. But my trick is cutting out bread, pasta and rice too and watching carbs.
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These bumps get stronger by the day.
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[QUOTE=hohoholand;435575961]Since july 2008 i have been doing the 1000 calorie diet, haven't exercised much besides doing lots of walking and i have lost 98lbs. That's just in 5 and a bit months. But my trick is cutting out bread, pasta and rice too and watching carbs.[/QUOTE]
Good luck dealing with being skinny fat if or when it happens to you.
[QUOTE=plated;435576801]These bumps get stronger by the day.[/QUOTE]
I really wish people wouldn't bump 3-4 year old threads, oh well. That's noobs for ya.
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[QUOTE=miamiu;9089704]That's right. I'm interested in hearing if anyone did go on a diet less then 1000 calories and how it worked for them. Please, no posts about garbage like starvation mode and how eating less then 1000 calories is not good for you. Step up, and if you did succeed on the diet tell me how you did it.[/QUOTE]
I got pretty fat by drinking too much my junior year abroad. I cut my calories to 1000-1200 for 6 months and did 60+ minutes of cardio daily. It was "successful" in that I lost a lot of scale weight, quickly (about 30 pounds in 6 months). I wouldn't do this again knowing what I know today, because looking back I realize I must have lost a lot of lean mass along with the fat.
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I did lose ALOT OF weight last year doing muscle milk light the 100 cals ready to drink from sams club for breakfast mm light for lunch then pure protein bar pre work out 1 hr cardio then pilates or some weights then for dinner hugeeeeeeeeeee salad no dressing or ff italian and 4 oz lean protein I was stuck on the seafood mix from sams or chicken breast went about 1 month no cheat when I lost a good chunk of weight I added a cheat sunday lunch I looked great felt great and my hair grew long bc of the protein the starvation crap? its crap and only exists in people with less than 5% body fat ;)[QUOTE=miamiu;9089704]That's right. I'm interested in hearing if anyone did go on a diet less then 1000 calories and how it worked for them. Please, no posts about garbage like starvation mode and how eating less then 1000 calories is not good for you. Step up, and if you did succeed on the diet tell me how you did it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ives;435643301]I got pretty fat by drinking too much my junior year abroad. I cut my calories to 1000-1200 for 6 months and did 60+ minutes of cardio daily. It was "successful" in that I lost a lot of scale weight, quickly (about 30 pounds in 6 months). I wouldn't do this again knowing what I know today, because looking back I realize I must have lost a lot of lean mass along with the fat.[/QUOTE]
what i am doing now and did when I got to 15% BF is eat 5 small meals a deal morning fasted cardio then 100 cals shake then 1pm 2oz protein lean with 6 asparagus then same type 3 hrs later etc... egg whites i am not as big as i used to be when i did the 2 shakes/salad diet so I honestly dont have the will to do that all day m,y cals on my current diet come up to 800 BUT bc i eat so often my weight loss is not as quick as before also bc i am lighter and have 1 cheat meal per week :)))
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Same as me
I wanted to lose weight my whole life. I had never been fat but I was chubby, eating Nutella everyday, abusing of bread toast etc.... The thing is I tried this 1000 cal diet and succeeded for 2 weeks. Yeah ik its not long but still i lost 12 lbs in 2 weeks. I went to the gym 5 times a week and ran for 30 mins in an extreme way. Id end up sweating like if it rained over me. The days passed by and wanting to see earlier results, I cut more and more the calories from 1000 to 800 then 700 and it wasn't really a prob for me bc i also didn't have any appetite like before. Then 2 weeks later I had a bday party of a friend, and that day was my ´´cheat day´´ . I got the half of a piece of cake and then just wanted more and more. I ended up binging that day. The days passed on and i had so much stress in my life. I binged EVERYDAY only on bad food. I could eat a whole chocolate alone, the milk bing ones. It was terrible. I felt so bad about myself. I would sometimes try put my finger on my throat to vomit it all out but no i stopped. I didn't want to become bulimic. I didn't want to hurt my body like that.
I binged for 4 Months straight. My addiction to food was extreme. I gained from 53 kg to 62 kg in only 4 months. I feel like ****. 3 days ago I started dieting again, 1000 cals I just wanna be skinny as hell :( I hope my binging doesn't come again bc it was so hard for me to battle with binge eating disorder
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People, it's not that difficult. Eat whole foods such chicken breast, fish, turkey, broccoli, brown rice, sweet potatoes at caloric deficit from your TDEE (daily needs) and the weight comes off. Protein makes you feel full along with drinking lots of water. Quite being so weak minded about this. Just do it already. Read the Nutrition stickies...PLEASE!
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This thread made me laugh. This ethoxidenuc guy claiming to be a super expert success story and never posting any stats, classic. Some of the stupidest stuff I've ever read.
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That's an eating disorder friend.
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Christian Bale did an apple and can of tuna every day for months. It was for the movie, "The Machinist." The producers repeatedly told him to stop as they were worried he was going to kill himself. I think he didn't listen to them at first.
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[QUOTE=NacMuay;1414474743]Christian Bale did an apple and can of tuna every day for months. It was for the movie, "The Machinist." The producers repeatedly told him to stop as they were worried he was going to kill himself. I think he didn't listen to them at first.[/QUOTE]
He achieved the look that he wanted though. But I wouldn't have accepted the role.
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Let's all see if we can keep this thread alive for a full decade!
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[QUOTE=skyjumper;1414475833]Let's all see if we can keep this thread alive for a full decade![/QUOTE]
Keep it going for posterity so that scientists 100 years in the future can look back and laugh at the silly apes that thought 1000 calorie diets were a good idea.
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[QUOTE=wsteve30;1414475393]He achieved the look that he wanted though. But I wouldn't have accepted the role.[/QUOTE]
Because you don't like being paid millions of dollars.
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[QUOTE=NacMuay;1414478003]Because you don't like being paid millions of dollars.[/QUOTE]
Not if I might be dead and unable to enjoy it.
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[QUOTE=wsteve30;1414479163]Not if I might be dead and unable to enjoy it.[/QUOTE]
"Live your life so the fear of death never enters your heart. When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.” -Tecumseh
Also:
Age: 30
Stats: 5'11", 172 lbs
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I can contribute some personal stats. 800 cal/day with ~40% protein, 20% carbs. No strength training because I'm injured.
Start 22/11/2015: 190 lbs @ 28.9% BF (i.e. Fat= 54.9 lbs, LBM = 135.1 lbs)
End 05/01/2016: 165 lbs @ 24.9% BF (i.e. Fat= 41.1 lbs, LBM= 123.9 lbs)
So over 6.5 weeks, I've lost 25 lbs (13.8 lbs of fat and 11.2 lbs of LBM) - that's 55% fat and 45% LBM.
Please don't extrapolate this to your own personal circumstance, but losing 45% LBM is pretty crap.