Dumbell vs Barbell

Hey guys, I've been wondering cause when going through my gym I noticed some people debate about dumbell excercises and barbel excercises

DBs is better than BBs etc

Now I wanna clear my doubts, which do you think it better and why?

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Sprinter91;1017205603]Hey guys, I've been wondering cause when going through my gym I noticed some people debate about dumbell excercises and barbel excercises

DBs is better than BBs etc

Now I wanna clear my doubts, which do you think it better and why?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]


Pretty new here but I can tell you that neither is better and its not wrong to switch to the other every once in awhile. Personally I feel like barbells are better for focusing on my target muscle and dumbells are better for working the surrounding stabilizer muscles as well. Exercise dependent of couse

[QUOTE=Sprinter91;1017205603]
Now I wanna clear my doubts...[/QUOTE]

They're not going to get cleared here, or any other forum.


A good routine will use a carefully considered mix of both.

Well that ain't bad too, just wanted to know, thanks guys ;)

[QUOTE=Sprinter91;1017205603]Hey guys, I've been wondering cause when going through my gym I noticed some people debate about dumbell excercises and barbel excercises

DBs is better than BBs etc

Now I wanna clear my doubts, which do you think it better and why?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]

Neither is better than the other. And in my opinion, both are quite useful if you're looking to build strength.

[QUOTE=FallingRgr;1017216093]Pretty new here but I can tell you that neither is better and its not wrong to switch to the other every once in awhile. Exercise dependent of couse[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ironwill2008;1017217513]They're not going to get cleared here, or any other forum.


A good routine will use a carefully considered mix of both.[/QUOTE]
^ Those.

edit: + EML's

DBs do not strain my shoulders as much.......

[QUOTE=Sprinter91;1017205603]Hey guys, I've been wondering cause when going through my gym I noticed some people debate about dumbell excercises and barbel excercises

DBs is better than BBs etc

Now I wanna clear my doubts, which do you think it better and why?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
I feel that dumbell has corrected my form and gave me a more even chest them barbell

pretty simple concept. Dumbbell for isolation vs barbell for more max weight.

[QUOTE=ironwill2008;1017217513]They're not going to get cleared here, or any other forum.


A good routine will use a carefully considered mix of both.[/QUOTE]




Nice!

This will differ for from person to person. It will also differ for an individual from exercise to exercise. For example, I find bent-over row a great move with barbell and dumbbells. I use both in my back workout as I find I can get different advantages from both. I rarely use a barbell for bench press, as I find my shoulders hurt too much however strict I keep my form. Yet when I perform decline bench, I find barbell better for me. Trial and error will dictate whats best for you.

The only exercise I would confidently argue barbell is better would be for squats, simply due to amount of weight and grip issues.

[QUOTE=Sprinter91;1017205603]which do you think it better and why?[/QUOTE]

Dumbbells are better for unilateral excercises.

What everyone in this thread is trying to tell you, is:

Stabilization plays a crucial aspect in your weight training. One thing you won't find any hesitation in hearing, is that BB Bench Press will illicit more muscle growth, compared to Machine Bench Press. How much stabilization you need will be rather limited if you ask anyone that prefers BB Bench over DB Bench. BB bench doesn't require the most stabilization, but it allows you to load the bar with more weight. The amount of momentum that you have to control will be slow since the bar is rather long, and you can feel the bar start to adjust as to illicit more stabilization on your part. But wait; what about the fact that machine bench press allows you to lift even [i]more[/i] weight, you ask?.. The answer lies in the stabilization. Not in a maximum amount of stabilization, but just so much that you have to pay attention to it.

DB Bench will require so much stabilization, that the weight that most people can lift will be compromised compared to BB bench. It's a push exercise, for the most part. It's called Bench Press, not Bench Push & Descend.

DUMBELL over bar anyday. Dumbbell for mass barbell for strength.

Do what you like best. If one was better than the other then there would not have been a debate.

I do inclines on Barbell and flat bench dumbbells. Most common is doing flat bench bb then incline db. Both work

[QUOTE=GeneralSerpant;1017537863]What everyone in this thread is trying to tell you, is:

Stabilization plays a crucial aspect in your weight training. One thing you won't find any hesitation in hearing, is that BB Bench Press will illicit more muscle growth, compared to Machine Bench Press. How much stabilization you need will be rather limited if you ask anyone that prefers BB Bench over DB Bench. BB bench doesn't require the most stabilization, but it allows you to load the bar with more weight. The amount of momentum that you have to control will be slow since the bar is rather long, and you can feel the bar start to adjust as to illicit more stabilization on your part. But wait; what about the fact that machine bench press allows you to lift even [i]more[/i] weight, you ask?.. The answer lies in the stabilization. Not in a maximum amount of stabilization, but just so much that you have to pay attention to it.

DB Bench will require so much stabilization, that the weight that most people can lift will be compromised compared to BB bench. It's a push exercise, for the most part. It's called Bench Press, not Bench Push & Descend.[/QUOTE]

Nothing wrong with machine bench press. Hammer strength incline press is good. I dont like it though, i think my arms are too long to do it comfortably.

So in your opinion Barbell is better than db because you can load more weight and db has too much stabilization. But at the same time Barbell is better than machines for the exact opposite reason. (More stabilization) flawed logic

[QUOTE=Sprinter91;1017205603]Hey guys, I've been wondering cause when going through my gym I noticed some people debate about dumbell excercises and barbel excercises

DBs is better than BBs etc

Now I wanna clear my doubts, which do you think it better and why?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]


I mainly use dumbbells, I think it's just personal preference mainly but I don't workout with a spotter and I even though I don't really train to failure I feel like if anything goes wrong when I'm using dumbbells I can just drop the weights whereas if I was doing something like barbell bench press and something goes wrong then I wouldn't have a clue what to do lol other than shout out for help.
Plus using dumbbells can help sort out any imbalance problems. e.g. if your one lat is bigger than the other then you can focus more on your weak side with something like dumbbell rows

[QUOTE=4everalone;1017558863]Nothing wrong with machine bench press. Hammer strength incline press is good. I dont like it though, i think my arms are too long to do it comfortably.

So in your opinion Barbell is better than db because you can load more weight and db has too much stabilization. But at the same time Barbell is better than machines for the exact opposite reason. (More stabilization) flawed logic[/QUOTE]You're pretty much following what I said, yeah.

Momentum (Force x Velocity) is what illicits stabilization. The size of the olympic bar increases the general area/field that you have to push up. The smaller the field of area, the easier it is for the bar to move around (the larger force:area ratio means that any force x momentum translates to less momentum, since the relative area at your hands has less force directly at it). Since the machine's handles are anchored, and in a fixed line of motion, you are essentially just pushing against an indefinitely large field area.

I like using dumbbells, but I'm just saying that the size of Olympic Barbells seems to be a good balance for power and stabilization, in a lot of peoples' opinions.

There's no reason to ever ask "barbell vs dumbbell".

A DB exercise is a different exercise than it's BB counterpart. Don't think of them as the same exercise with different equipment, think of them as two different exercises done for different reasons. Chose your exercises based on what you wish to accomplish from that exercise. Don't pick an exercise based on whether you want to use a barbell or a dumbbell.