Sups Help!

okay so i've been taking seriouse mass by optimum nutrition, for quite some time now, this coupled with BCCA's & Glutamine. Im currently 156 lbs.

I now want to bulk up to 170-180lbs, i have been trying by increasing my weights, however i'd quite like to get there quicker than what it took me to get to how i look now (2 years) I'm getting tired of running through huge amount of product reveiws & websites on which supplements could help me achieve this. There is just to many products out there all claiming to "pack on Lbs of muscle."

Im just wanting some of you who know about this to suggest some good supplements for a hard gainer (very hard gainer, the amount i had to work to get to where iam now was insane!!!) Just to let you guys get a better idea of what sups is best for me, i work out five times a week; 45 mins-1 hour.

check out Cytogainer by Cytosport. Its a good gainer, lots of protein, good fats, some carbs, creatine and glutamine all in one - tastes great too

It's mostly about your diet. Having a soild diet with enough calories/protein/carbs and all that will beat out almost any supp any day.

Supplements are just that supplements to what actually matters. Asound diet, adequate rest and solid training regimen.

1) MassFX and Hyperdrol x2.

2) Creatine.

thanks guys, quite like a few more if anyones got any. My diet is pretty good, i eat 4-5 times a day. I need effective supps to stop me burning off what i eat, which is what im doing. Im on around 7000 calories a day with three shakes from serious mass. Still needing more sups as im burning it off!

The only things that are going to get you to your goal weight quicker is to carry on with the weight gainer shakes and increased calories, but also add in something like Animal M-Stak or the MassFx/Hyperdrol stack that the guy above mentioned, as well as a good creatine like GreenMag or Clout.

[QUOTE=getripped09;312598451]thanks guys, quite like a few more if anyones got any. My diet is pretty good, i eat 4-5 times a day. I need effective supps to stop me burning off what i eat, which is what im doing. Im on around 7000 calories a day with three shakes from serious mass. Still needing more sups as im burning it off![/QUOTE]

Wow 7,000 calories eh? Try some cell volumization:

Creatine monohydrate + Static Stretching + Anabolic Pump. This will definitely increase the volume of the muscle cell which causes protein synthesis. Make sure to drink 4 - 8 L of water per day and I guarantee that you will put on some size.

I have never used creatine before so im defo up for that, however, i dont understand what you mean by : "Static Stretching" I would assume you just mean stretching. I have looked into Anabolic pump, looks good, reveiws on here are very good! Can i use the MassFX and Hyperdrol x2 combo with this though?

mass comes from cals, not from supps. If you want to be big, you have to eat big. consider the following:
- 6+ meals per day, focus on whole foods (chicken, fish, beef, oats, veggies, fruits, nuts, natural pb, milk, etc.)
- first thing in the mornign and pre and post workout have a shake with a scoop of whey+cup of oats+water or milk
- Use these calculators to calculate maintenance:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa64.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/idssports3.htm[/url]
- Then go to fitday.com and input your diet. Shoot for a 40%/40%/20% macro breakdown for carbs/protein/fat for a bulk
- Start by tweaking your cals to be about 500 over maintenance and increase from there in increments of 100 or so until you break weight gain plateau for a bulk

MAN Clout is a great option for a creatine plus product for strength, endurance and recovery. Plus it is a non-proprietary formula so you know exactly how much of each ingredient you are getting.

Just to say thatnks for all advice, and all i can say is WOW! Results have been brilliant. Heres what i've started using for anyone else that's interested:


Anabolic Xtreme Mass Fx
Omega 3 Fish Body Oils
BSN Cell Mass - 1.41 lbs
Anabolic Xtreme Hyperdrol
Optimum Serious Mass - 12 lb


I have to admitt, all of that came to ?143.11!! However, 5 lbs in a week?! seriously impressed. Very noticable in arms especially!

Funny how in your mid 20's Its hard to gain a pound, even with a gainer (was the same for me.) But in your mid 30's you loose that metabolism and can gain 5 in a week :/