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Here's a clip of me doing 3 reps with 286 lb. Lifting starts at 40 seconds. I could do 5 reps but thought that there will be too much back rounding on the last reps.
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Do you consider all 3 reps good enough? Or is there any point where there is too much rounding?
A little rounding is fine, you aren't even close to that. Enjoy.
Little back rounding is OK... it's going to happen on max effort sets/reps. But, what I noticed in the vid is that you need to get your hips down and weight behind the bar when you initiate the pull...your over the top of the bar, where you want to get your shoulders behind the bar when you begin to pull.
i think if you drop hips a bit more and reset before every rep you can fix the problem
[QUOTE=NicktheStick;1255442141]But, what I noticed in the vid is that you need to get your hips down and weight behind the bar when you initiate the pull...your over the top of the bar, where you want to get your shoulders behind the bar when you begin to pull.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the feedback. That's interesting. I'm not sure if I can do it differently with my height/long legs. I'll try it though.
I was just looking at videos for comparison, do you mean this guy is doing somewhat the same, shoulders over the bar: *****://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmuTJ36MxLw ?
it's okay to deadlift with high hips, especially if you're a tall fuk pulling conventional(me too), but your hips are definitely a little too high and your chest is too far forward over the bar. and in regards to your question, a little thoracic rounding is expected, but if at any point you begin to experience lumbar rounding, you better put the weight down before you snap your chit up.
As mentioned, your hips seem to be a fair bit too high up, and your body is too far over the bar. However the straightness of your back is fine.
everyone is different but try focusing on something 5'+/- away from bar and keeping your neck neutral/straight. Keep your hips down and drive with your heels going up keeping your head/neck in that neutral position. I don't see how guys can have their neck positioned like that and not have any discomfort/pain.
Were you deadlifting in front of a mirror?
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Were you deadlifting in front of a mirror?[/QUOTE]
No there's no mirror there, but I do tend to look forward/up. This was a trick I used in the beginning to prevent back rounding. Maybe it's time to stop that now.
Good point thanks.
I'm a similar height to you, so I know how akward it feels to begin with when you start deadlifting. It's all about leg drive when your over 6'0. You've gotta really push like it's a leg push machine underneath you to get the weight up, and at the same time keeping your upper body form spot on. I practised it with lighter weights for ages infront of a mirror. It's a little tricky to master the conventional deadlift when your tall, but it's worth putting the practise in in the long run.
[QUOTE=hanger1989;1255482581]I'm a similar height to you, so I know how akward it feels to begin with when you start deadlifting. It's all about leg drive when your over 6'0. You've gotta really push like it's a leg push machine underneath you to get the weight up, and at the same time keeping your upper body form spot on. I practised it with lighter weights for ages infront of a mirror. It's a little tricky to master the conventional deadlift when your tall, but it's worth putting the practise in in the long run.[/QUOTE]
Thanks man. that's helpful.
your lower back is fine. Any rounding above that, something like middle upper back to top, can be rounded and will not cause you injury as long as you are using the proper form. Many powerlifters who lift insane amount of weights have their upper back rounded during the deadlift, and they get green light despite hwo much round it was. Just make sure your lower back stays straight. Hope this answered your question clearly.
Your lower back looks fine, upper back rounding is acceptable and perfectly fine. That being said you could go a bit lower with the hips but don't overdo it too low and you'll end up squatting the weight up more than anything. Sometimes the stance that feels best on the ground isn't the most efficient way once the bar leaves the ground play around with how far away the bar is away from your shins and also foot width. A good way to test your proper foot width is to hang from a chin up bar and drop down the stance you land in is usually the best for both squatting and dead lift stance.
I think you could definitely use the hips more though, you could definitely go up in weight a bit I'd like to see what your back looks like when working at near maximal loads because that's when it matters most and when your at highest risk for injury. That being said I usually work with no more than 5 reps in deadlift as any time after that is when you tend to see breakdowns in form.