Iron's Recomp And Gfh Journal: Nothin To It But To Do It!

[Dustin92]

hows that injury coming along bro...getting any better?

[Manuel73]

Conventional deadlifts are going on the back burner. As soon as i feel able i'll prolly start back with rack deads, then progress to sumo deads. Dunno if i'll ever pull conventionally again, it's just not worth it IMO, plus i'm mentally scared ****less now to pull any substantial weight from the ground.


I might throw in some light weight rep work down the line...eh who knows :D

QFT......conventional deads were partially responsible for my low back injury i suffered 4 years ago.....it took me years to get back into it......i do partial deads from time to time, but never big weights like i used to do....not worth the risk IMO.

[IRONMANN1]

hows that injury coming along bro...getting any better?

Yeah buddy gettin better slowly but surely. Still tight as fcuk, but recovering :)


QFT......conventional deads were partially responsible for my low back injury i suffered 4 years ago.....it took me years to get back into it......i do partial deads from time to time, but never big weights like i used to do....not worth the risk IMO.

I hear ya bro. I'm in a similar boat for right now that's for sure.

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So went in for a bit of a misc session today. Looked like this:

WG Pullups
BWx5
+25x5
Hammer chins
+25x5
CG Supinated
+25x5
BWx8

BB Curls
65x10
95x5
115x8
115x6
95x10

UH Wrist Curls
90x8
90x8
90x8

Supersetted with

OH Wrist Curls
50x8
50x8
50x8

Seated Incline Alternating DB Curls
30x8x3

Cardio
Treadmill: 30 Minutes LI Cardio: Burned 360 cals


Back is starting to noticably get better. It's still tight as hell, but def. recovering. Pullups/chins are coming along nicely. Will up to +35 next session. Nothing to crazy here, just nice to be back in the gym :)

[LSU1]

nice job man, interesting that you have similar pullup/chinup strength as well

[kennny d]

Good to see you gettin in the gym even with the back, do you drive to the gym though? I remember after I hurt mine driving sucked so much cause I could barely sit easy and couldnt twist left or right to check blind spots

[IRONMANN1]

nice job man, interesting that you have similar pullup/chinup strength as well

Yeah i'd say my chinup strength is slightly stronger, but my pullup strength is almost the same cause i do them more often.

Do you think i should keep the variations or pick one style and focus on it??



Good to see you gettin in the gym even with the back, do you drive to the gym though? I remember after I hurt mine driving sucked so much cause I could barely sit easy and couldnt twist left or right to check blind spots


Yeah i drove to the gym. It sucks sitting down, but it's only a 5 minute drive so it's not too bad. I know exactly what you're sayin tho :D

[jwdjrs]

Lookin good brother :) Happy Sunday man

[LSU1]

i would pick one. i would choose the one which you feel is more effective for back/lat development.

once i stopped progressing on that movement, then i would swap it out for the other (chins/pullups, whichever one)

additionally i wouldnt try to move up too fast on these. in my experience slow progresss leads to the best progress in the long run

[IRONMANN1]

Lookin good brother :) Happy Sunday man

Thanks bud! You too :)


i would pick one. i would choose the one which you feel is more effective for back/lat development.

once i stopped progressing on that movement, then i would swap it out for the other (chins/pullups, whichever one)

additionally i wouldnt try to move up too fast on these. in my experience slow progresss leads to the best progress in the long run

Aiiiiiiiiiight. I'm gonna pick shoulder width chins to start out with. My lats were on fire today after them...cant be a bad thing :p

[iKermit]

glad to hear the back is getting better. some light massaging might help as well.

[sparxxx13]

Nice workout man, nice to see your back is doing good.

[LSU1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

[sparxxx13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
wow....

[LSU1]

wow....

youve been rickrolled

[IRONMANN1]

glad to hear the back is getting better. some light massaging might help as well.

Thanks bud. I got a nice massage last night, and it wasnt light either. I like em down and dirty :D


Nice workout man, nice to see your back is doing good.

Thanks bud :)

[ThickAsABrick]

Thanks bud. I got a nice massage last night, and it wasnt light either. I like em down and dirty :D


Happy ending? :D

Hope the back continues to improve quickly.

[IRONMANN1]

youve been rickrolled

Yo LSU, i've been doing some reading in the supplement forum, and put an order in from D P S for (2)11-OXO and 6-OXO.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/11oxo.html

Supposedly its a very mild hormone which goes hand in hand with a cut by controlling cortisol.

Caught my eye, and i'm behind Ergopharm and PA, so figured i'd give it a shot.

Whatcha think??

[IRONMANN1]

Happy ending? :D

Hope the back continues to improve quickly.

What you think?! :D


Thanks buddy, should be good as new within a week im thinking :)


I heard you had a crush on MassIsAhead...any truth to this? :confused:

[LSU1]

Yo LSU, i've been doing some reading in the suppliment forum, and put an order in from *** for (2)11-OXO and 6-OXO.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/11oxo.html

Supposedly its a very mild hormone which goes hand in hand with a cut by controlling cortisol.

Caught my eye, and i'm behind Ergopharm and PA, so figured i'd give it a shot.

Whatcha think??

ive done some good reading about it, a really good thread here on it by Patrick Arnold (only guy to ever get arrested for creating steroids) who developed it and also one at anabolicminds

apparently its a cortisol inhibitor at lower doses, like four caps a day, and a PH at higher dosages.

it has piqued my interest but i wanted to see what the logs looked like at both types of dosages.

how would you be dosing it?

[IRONMANN1]

ive done some good reading about it, a really good thread here on it by Patrick Arnold (only guy to ever get arrested for creating steroids) who developed it and also one at anabolicminds

apparently its a cortisol inhibitor at lower doses, like four caps a day, and a PH at higher dosages.

it has piqued my interest but i wanted to see what the logs looked like at both types of dosages.

how would you be dosing it?


It's crazy how they're selling it, only a 20 day supply at recommended dossage. Which is obsurd.

I'm prolly going to start out at 300mg/day and prolly get up to 450mg/day. I havent really gotten into the details yet so these may def. change.

Seems like a decent compound...is ax's 3ad exactly the same?

[LSU1]

It's crazy how they're selling it, only a 20 day supply at recommended dossage. Which is obsurd.

I'm prolly going to start out at 300mg/day and prolly get up to 450mg/day. I havent really gotten into the details yet so these may def. change.

Seems like a decent compound...is ax's 3ad exactly the same?

yea except its in larger dosages, but will likely be more expensive

you need more than one bottle of that ****, im sure you know that though

im holding off on it because i would want to dose higher than the recommended and im not sure how your body would react with only an AI fo pct

[IRONMANN1]

yea except its in larger dosages, but will likely be more expensive

you need more than one bottle of that ****, im sure you know that though

im holding off on it because i would want to dose higher than the recommended and im not sure how your body would react with only an AI fo pct

I ordered 2 bottles.

I've got heaps of nolva and clomid, so no prob if i get shut down, which i know wont happen.

Edit: i may just use it as a cutting agent and keep the dossage low. Bet the strength gains would still be noticable.

[LSU1]

im glad you are testing this out man, im very anxious to see how it works for you

be sure to at least pm me some weekly updates with dosages and details if you can. if you dont post it in here

when are you planning to do it?

[IRONMANN1]

im glad you are testing this out man, im very anxious to see how it works for you

be sure to at least pm me some weekly updates with dosages and details if you can. if you dont post it in here

when are you planning to do it?

Soon as this back heals to 100% i'll start. Prolly ~a week from now.

I'll give full updates on it in here bruh.

[SwagMorris]

Bout time you worked out again:D

Chins are making progress. Your back is ghey.

[PowerBuilder08]

Hope you're feeling better. I have never done conventional deads out of fear, I've always done sumo deadlifting. Keep working, good progress :)

[EoR]

Just a Doctors check-up IM. :D I hope that back is healing pronto!

1 week you predict to get back into it? Sounds great, hyst make sure though. :D

[IRONMANN1]

Bout time you worked out again:D

Chins are making progress. Your back is ghey.

lol...so much negativity :mad:

:D


Hope you're feeling better. I have never done conventional deads out of fear, I've always done sumo deadlifting. Keep working, good progress

Thanks bud!


Just a Doctors check-up IM. I hope that back is healing pronto!

1 week you predict to get back into it? Sounds great, hyst make sure though. :D

lol....it's healing, but damn tight as hell. Back at the office and attempting to sit upright in this chair sucks :mad:

Yeah I think in a week it'll be good as new (providing there are no underlying issues).

Holla buddy!

[littlechick]

I hope it gets better soon :)

[IRONMANN1]

I hope it gets better soon :)

Thanks gal :)


Liking that new Avi, lookin all sassssssssssssy :D

I had to take a closer look :p

[littlechick]

Thanks gal :)


Liking that new Avi, lookin all sassssssssssssy :D

I had to take a closer look :p

lol..I don;t have a paint program on comp, so had to keep my stupid face in...lol.....no make-up and crazy hair...lol...

a closer look at what?

[G_Train]

lol..I don;t have a paint program on comp, so had to keep my stupid face in...lol.....no make-up and crazy hair...lol...

a closer look at what?
yeah that's a hot pic (yes stalking LC and ignoring Ironman's journal)


:D

[IRONMANN1]

lol..I don;t have a paint program on comp, so had to keep my stupid face in...lol.....no make-up and crazy hair...lol...

a closer look at what?

I had to log into your bodyspace for a quick fap :p


yeah that's a hot pic (yes stalking LC and ignoring Ironman's journal)


:D

LOL!

[IRONMANN1]

Fcuk my back is killing trying to sit in this chair at work! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[G_Train]

Fcuk my back is killing trying to sit in this chair at work! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
i wonder if there is a correlation between your back soreness and the chronic fapping induced by LCs new pics

[IRONMANN1]

i wonder if there is a correlation between your back soreness and the chronic fapping induced by LCs new pics

lmao


There indeed is a very good chance :o

I tend to get a bit out of control

[ThickAsABrick]

Having avys turned off at work, FTL

[IRONMANN1]

Having avys turned off at work, FTL

lol wtf!

They can do that??

Too much monitoring FTL!

[ThickAsABrick]

lol wtf!

They can do that??

Too much monitoring FTL!

lol

no, I turned those and images off while I'm here, since I have zippy privacy

[littlechick]

you guys make me giggle, lol

[IRONMANN1]

lol

no, I turned those and images off while I'm here, since I have zippy privacy

Cube's FTL! Big executive office w/private bathroom FTW!! (no ironmann1 :()


you guys make me giggle, lol

then it's your turn to make me giggle lol

[kennny d]

lmao


There indeed is a very good chance :o

I tend to get a bit out of control

bad form, you gotta use just ur biceps and forearms... its not a fullbody exercise

[IRONMANN1]

bad form, you gotta use just ur biceps and forearms... its not a fullbody exercise

But more protein everywhere from teh test release of teh full body compoundz :confused:

[G_Train]

lol wtf!

They can do that??

Too much monitoring FTL!
stuck at 32% FTL ..

[kennny d]

But more protein everywhere from teh test release of teh full body compoundz :confused:

so under your logic, it would be best to fap while doing squats on a medicine ball? Talke about a test release

[IRONMANN1]

stuck at 32% FTL ..

lol...U just wait, i'm bout to leap to 34% here soon :eek:


so under your logic, it would be best to fap while doing squats on a medicine ball? Talke about a test release

Yes, there is a good chance that would end in one hell of an explosion.

[G_Train]

lol...U just wait, i'm bout to leap to 34% here soon :eek:



Yes, there is a good chance that would end in one hell of an explosion.
oh you woul-nt

[G_Train]

[QUOTE=IRONMANN1;48466231]lol...U just wait, i'm bout to leap to 34% here soon :eek:



edit: wow 2 posts at the same time


i hax0r3d teh vBulletins

[gymratluke]

oh you woul-nt


[QUOTE=IRONMANN1;48466231]lol...U just wait, i'm bout to leap to 34% here soon :eek:



edit: wow 2 posts at the same time


i hax0r3d teh vBulletins

Whoa WTF?!?!

[G_Train]

[QUOTE=G_Train;48467781]

Whoa WTF?!?!
i'm am teh chosen one

wow wtf is going on haha

[SwagMorris]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cQohgN6iF0s&mode=related&search=

[IRONMANN1]

oh you woul-nt


[QUOTE=IRONMANN1;48466231]lol...U just wait, i'm bout to leap to 34% here soon :eek:



edit: wow 2 posts at the same time


i hax0r3d teh vBulletins

You're out of control G :D


[QUOTE=G_Train;48467781]

Whoa WTF?!?!

lol G needs to put down teh drugz


[QUOTE=gymratluke;48468311]
i'm am teh chosen one

wow wtf is going on haha

lol


http://youtube.com/watch?v=cQohgN6iF0s&mode=related&search=

I love it! rick roll me as much as you like :D

[G_Train]

I should have taken teh blue pill :p

[IRONMANN1]

I should have taken teh blue pill :p

lol...and not the one with teh smiley face on it :D

[G_Train]

lol...and not the one with teh smiley face on it :D
yeah coz this erection has been cranking for 5 hours now

[I_love_crows]

Back is starting to noticably get better. It's still tight as hell, but def. recovering. Pullups/chins are coming along nicely. Will up to +35 next session. Nothing to crazy here, just nice to be back in the gym :)

Good stuff man. Glad to see you can get back in there so quickly. Hope it's 100% soon...

[IRONMANN1]

yeah coz this erection has been cranking for 5 hours now

wow son, get that bastard serviced!


Good stuff man. Glad to see you can get back in there so quickly. Hope it's 100% soon...

Thanks crows, i'm thinking it'll be pretty close to 100% in a week or so. Sure am looking forward to it. Sitting in this here office chair is one pain in the azz :p

[IRONMANN1]

6/4/07--Cardio/Calves--60 Minutes

Cardio
Treadmill: 40 Minutes LI/MI; Burned 532 calories.

Seated Calf Raises
160x10
160x10
160x12

Standing Weighted single leg Calf Raisesnew exercise
45x10
45x10
45x10


Back was feelin rough today! Had to stand up in my office the entire day lol. Think i may of overdone it yesterday...so icing it down good tonight.
Cardio went well once the back got loose, and calf raises were, well, calf raises :D

Chest/Bi's tomorrow! :D

[Jorday]

Sucks to hear the back is feeling rough dude...rest up tonight and hopefully it'll feel better in the morning.

[LSU1]

boring old cardio sesh

good to hear the back is on the mend

[The Real Deal]

bring in doctor's note next time ;)

[SwagMorris]

If you're going to post a boring workout like this, atleast put a vid up of girls making out, or some sort of picture/vid that will atleast make viewing that workout worth while;)

[IRONMANN1]

Sucks to hear the back is feeling rough dude...rest up tonight and hopefully it'll feel better in the morning.

It's feeling much better today! Iced the hell outta it last night, think it helped :)


boring old cardio sesh

good to hear the back is on the mend

Yup, but it's gotta be done :)

Thanks bro.


bring in doctor's note next time ;)

haha, will do prof :D


If you're going to post a boring workout like this, atleast put a vid up of girls making out, or some sort of picture/vid that will atleast make viewing that workout worth while


lol that would prolly be a good idea. I may be strange, but hell i enjoy cardio :eek: As far as calf work goes, muck that! :D

[PhreEkGarden]

Nice session IRON!









:p:p

Ice up buddy

[IRONMANN1]

Nice session IRON!









:p:p

Ice up buddy


lol at the sarcasim :D


ICE ICE BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[I_love_crows]

Good luck with the chest and biceps next IRON... Have you considered doing more machine work while you are wating for your back to heal?

[IRONMANN1]

Good luck with the chest and biceps next IRON... Have you considered doing more machine work while you are wating for your back to heal?

Thanks bro.

When I went in Saturday i did mostly machine work just to be safe. Feelin a lil better now tho (it's mostly just strong tightness/stiffness which gets better when when warmed up/stretched out) so i'm going to ease back into my normal routine.

[I_love_crows]

Thanks bro.

When I went in Saturday i did mostly machine work just to be safe. Feelin a lil better now tho (it's mostly just strong tightness/stiffness which gets better when when warmed up/stretched out) so i'm going to ease back into my normal routine.

Oh, okay. Yeah machines are a lot more forgiving when you're dealing with an injury imo. That's definitely a good thing when the pain goes away as the area gets warmed up. You'll get back to the "good ol'" days soon :p.

[IRONMANN1]

Oh, okay. Yeah machines are a lot more forgiving when you're dealing with an injury imo. That's definitely a good thing when the pain goes away as the area gets warmed up. You'll get back to the "good ol'" days soon :p.

OH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :D















work blows

[G_Train]

How's the fapping been today?

[IRONMANN1]

How's the fapping been today?

Exceptional. Had one upon waking (yes LC), one in the stall at work (yes LC), and about to have one at the house during lunch (possible LC).


Thanks for asking G!!


Forecasting 8 sessions today.

[G_Train]

Exceptional. Had one upon waking (yes LC), one in the stall at work (yes LC), and about to have one at the house during lunch (possible LC).


Thanks for asking G!!


Forecasting 8 sessions today.
high frequency/high volume then ...

i've fapped 6 times since typing this reply

[littlechick]

Exceptional. Had one upon waking (yes LC), one in the stall at work (yes LC), and about to have one at the house during lunch (possible LC).


Thanks for asking G!!


Forecasting 8 sessions today.

:eek:

****blushing***

[G_Train]

:eek:

****blushing***
ahh **** it's LC herself!!!!

*cleans up, hides cucumber*

[IRONMANN1]

high frequency/high volume then ...

i've fapped 6 times since typing this reply

Yeah that's the plan. Tryin not to blow the roof off so often, so i have to keep my poision at dangerously low levels :cool:


6 times in aprox 16 seconds is impressive. My best is 8 in 14 seconds (yes LC).

[littlechick]

ahh **** it's LC herself!!!!

*cleans up, hides cucumber*


Yeah that's the plan. Tryin not to blow the roof off so often, so i have to keep my poision at dangerously low levels :cool:


6 times in aprox 16 seconds is impressive. My best is 8 in 14 seconds (yes LC).

you guys be nice, or I take down the pics :mad:

[G_Train]

you guys be nice, or I take down the pics :mad:
:o

[IRONMANN1]

:eek:

****blushing***


lol


ahh **** it's LC herself!!!!

*cleans up, hides cucumber*
lol

Time to head to the house and set some records :cool:


*Please no forearm cramp*

[IRONMANN1]

you guys be nice, or I take down the pics :mad:

NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo


okay i'll play nice


























psyc!

[jwdjrs]

http://phoenixfree.6.forumer.com/images/smiles/phoenixfree/th_jerry.jpg

[IRONMANN1]

http://phoenixfree.6.forumer.com/images/smiles/phoenixfree/th_jerry.jpg

lol Jerrymander :)

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6/05/07--Chest/Bi's--70 Minutes

BB Bench PressTied PR
135x10
185x3
225x5
225x5
225x5
225x5
225x5

DB Incline PressDidnt agree with teh back :/
80x8
80x7
70x8

Incline DB FlysSubbed for Flat
50x8
55x6
50x8

Dips
+65x8
+60x8
+60x8

BB Curls
115x6
95x10

Spider Curls
Single set of Seated Strict DB Curls



Tough session! Went with 225 again on BP cause of teh bum back. Just didnt know what to expect, and certainly didnt feel real comfortable. Incline DB's def. didnt feel good. Kicking them up hurt. Dips didnt bother me at all, and were very solid. Nice progress there. Decided to do incline DB Fly's, have always liked them. Curls were curls, kept em short and simple since i just hit them on Sunday.

Iceing down, and healin this guy up :)

[kennny d]

nice bench bud, I have a feelin you're about to blast past me on them.. how much room you think you got on your 5RM right now?

[IRONMANN1]

nice bench bud, I have a feelin you're about to blast past me on them.. how much room you think you got on your 5RM right now?

ummmmmmmmmm i'm prolly good for 235x5x5.

Didnt really break a sweat on 225, but adding 10lbs makes a world of a difference :p


Oh btw, i witnessed a guy BP 225 58 times tonight. Yeah my jaw was dropped lol.

[IRONMANN1]

lol...the dude was straight repping for a good minute.

[PowerBuilder08]

lol...the dude was straight repping for a good minute.

That's ****ing insane...I mean, holy ****....I don't even know if I could do 150 that many times

[IRONMANN1]

That's ****ing insane...I mean, holy ****....I don't even know if I could do 150 that many times

lol....I've seen the guy before. I'm pretty sure he's a retired pro football player...he's ~40 years old.

What's funny is if you saw him on the street you wouldnt have a clue. He wears a baggy t shirt to the gym too. Straight sleeper lol.

After he got done repping (didnt even reach failure, i'd guess he had 5-6 more in him) i told him i was jealous and he laughed his ass off. He said "bro i got 20 years on you, you'll be here too." I replied with, "uh, i highly doubt it, but thanks!" (while chuckling).

If i had to guess, the guy only weighs 220-230.


People like this amaze me. It's really something special.

[BluntD]

Oh btw, i witnessed a guy BP 225 58 times tonight. Yeah my jaw was dropped lol.

GAWD dayum that's some strength! Especially for that weight, good number for an NFL linemen is usually in the 40 range. And yeah your bitchass ain't gonna touch that! LOL

[IRONMANN1]

GAWD dayum that's some strength! Especially for that weight, good number for an NFL linemen is usually in the 40 range. And yeah your bitchass ain't gonna touch that! LOL

lol...as soon as i heard the weight clanking and his speed, i started counting so i might of missed a few reps too LOL

I thought he was going to rack the weight after about 30, then he cranked out 30 more :eek:


Hell no i'll never touch that LOL, I'd be super happy with half that.

[SwagMorris]

58 times:eek:

When are you going to try that:p

Solid session there! I see you have a nice periodization program worked out for ya.

Your back is still ghey.

[BluntD]

Hell no i'll never touch that LOL, I'd be super happy with half that.

Fo real!


your back sounds a lot like my shoulder, so I know how much that sucks.. good luck on the comeback!

[Dustin92]

Hey man I took your advice on the compound exercises and they worked pretty good.

Nice workout by the way ;)

[IRONMANN1]

58 times:eek:

When are you going to try that:p

Solid session there! I see you have a nice periodization program worked out for ya.

Your back is still ghey.

lol...i couldnt rep half that weight for 58 reps :D

Yeah the program is going along very nicely. Size is responding incredibly. Arms shrunk down to 15.75 roughly a month ago and are back up to nearly 16.5 and looking bigger than ever.

Back is def. still ghey! :D

[IRONMANN1]

Hey man I took your advice on the compound exercises and they worked pretty good.

Nice workout by the way ;)

Good deal bro. Dont forget all the assistance work, it's just as important :)

And thanks!


Fo real!


your back sounds a lot like my shoulder, so I know how much that sucks.. good luck on the comeback!

Thanks BD, and get that shoulder healed!

[IRONMANN1]

Welp, if teh back injury wasnt enough, I got laid off today. I'm not really going to delve into it, and sure aint fussed over it as i had no passion for the direction my career was going. Constantly found myself staring at the clock wishing the day to go by. So it's on to bigger and better things.

I've had a love for law enforcement my entire life, and am going to pursue it. Thru a few contacts, i'll be interviewing with the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department and will hopefully be training very soon. I've got much higher aspirations with law enforcement as well, but that'll be down the line.

Gotta look for light in every bad situation right? Well i see it as a god send, cause i didnt have the courage to quit. I saw it as a job, that paid very well. But a price has to be put to happiness, and i wasnt happy.

Now this is going to be a fun journey :D


Oh btw i did do a ghetto back w/o tonight.

Highlights:

ChinsShoulder width
BWx5
+35x5
+35x5
+35x5
+35x4
BWx7

BTN Pulldowns
Leaning Back Parallel Grip Pulldowns
Light BB Parallel Rows
BWx20x3 Hypers

Was going for 4 sets of 5 with the chins...just missed. Back wasnt feeling too bad! Even did some light BB Parallel Rows.

That is all :p

[SwagMorris]

That. F*cking. Blows. And just a few weeks ago you were telling me about how awesome construction was:p

Good luck with law enforcement. I've thought about it myself, but decided EMT and then Fire Fighting is a more realistic route for me, as I will never get a degree.

Atleast you got some PR's on chins. Is everything this week 5 reps, and then next week something lower, or higher, or what? It's hard following your periodization.:o

[sparxxx13]

Nice ghetto workout there man!!

[IRONMANN1]

That. F*cking. Blows. And just a few weeks ago you were telling me about how awesome construction was:p

Good luck with law enforcement. I've thought about it myself, but decided EMT and then Fire Fighting is a more realistic route for me, as I will never get a degree.

Atleast you got some PR's on chins. Is everything this week 5 reps, and then next week something lower, or higher, or what? It's hard following your periodization.:o

Eh who was i kidding. I was misrible, hated the work, and was just raving about it cause i got paid a lot and didnt have to do jack **** cause we were so slow. The division I worked for had a disasterous year last year (i didnt even work for them at the time) and it showed on the numbers this year. They started laying off the nOObs to the company in my division to make up for losses. Pathetic imo. Lots of other things that were absolutely rediculous, but not going to get into it.

I cant wait to get into law enforcement. It intrigues me and motivates me more than u could imagine. Dan i could so see you as an EMT or firefighter. Go for it man.

Today's session was just something i threw together. Had no real direction while i was in there...just tried to do lifts that didnt aggrivate my back. I'll be back to my split as soon as the back is better.

As for the chins, +25x5x3 was a previous PR, so i shattered that.


Nice ghetto workout there man!!

Thanks buddy!

[kennny d]

sorry to hear that **** bro, I like your positive outlook alot... good luck with the new stuff and your a crazy mofo for tryin rows this quick :D

Yo dan I got a friend who just became a EMT bro, he talks really well about it, hopefully same for you

[Dustin92]

Damn that sucks bro. Well good luck with the Mecklenburg Police Department interview. Nice little w/o there btw.

[SwagMorris]

Yo dan I got a friend who just became a EMT bro, he talks really well about it, hopefully same for you

Yeah I'm pretty sure it doesn't take very long to get certified. Then in Utah, you have to wait a year before you can get into the Fire fighting Academy after getting your EMT certification. (yes moving back to Utah)

[LSU1]

sucks man, off to bigger and better things though

solid workout, nice chins

keep your head up man

[IRONMANN1]

sorry to hear that **** bro, I like your positive outlook alot... good luck with the new stuff and your a crazy mofo for tryin rows this quick :D


Yo dan I got a friend who just became a EMT bro, he talks really well about it, hopefully same for you

Thanks dk...everything will work out just fine...:)

oh hells yes i be crazzzay :D



Damn that sucks bro. Well good luck with the Mecklenburg Police Department interview. Nice little w/o there btw.

Thanks Dustin!

[IRONMANN1]

sucks man, off to bigger and better things though

solid workout, nice chins

keep your head up man

Thanks LSU :)

[iKermit]

i like your outlook on the job situation. in a few years, i have no doubt that you'll look back on this and realize that it was definitely for the best.
like you said, money, of course, is good and important but it isn't worth being miserable for.
i'd be in law enforcement myself if another opportunity didn't come along at the right time.
all the best!

[Jorday]

nice work, and good attitude about the job situation bro. :)

[EoR]

Fantastic chins and well done on the PR. ;)

Also good luck with the law change. Make a law journal! :p

[PhreEkGarden]

**** yeah! Unemployment pay and workin out all day! :D

If you get into training for enforcement youll probably get into the best shape of your life. Sounds awesome. Aint gonna be no more drugs though.... :p:)

GET BIG

[littlechick]

Hey Iron...sounds like a great new plan...what a great attitude :)
I iwsh you much luck, and hey enjoy some freedom and fun in the sun while you can :)

[IRONMANN1]

i like your outlook on the job situation. in a few years, i have no doubt that you'll look back on this and realize that it was definitely for the best.
like you said, money, of course, is good and important but it isn't worth being miserable for.
i'd be in law enforcement myself if another opportunity didn't come along at the right time.
all the best!

Thanks Kerms....means alot bro. :)


nice work, and good attitude about the job situation bro.

As always, thanks J!


Fantastic chins and well done on the PR.

Also good luck with the law change. Make a law journal! :p

THanks EoR :p


**** yeah! Unemployment pay and workin out all day!

If you get into training for enforcement youll probably get into the best shape of your life. Sounds awesome. Aint gonna be no more drugs though....

GET BIG

lol phreek. Read below buddy..





Hey Iron...sounds like a great new plan...what a great attitude :)
I iwsh you much luck, and hey enjoy some freedom and fun in the sun while you can :)

Thanks LC :) You guys are awesome in all kinds of ways.


So, last night i wrote down a number of questions and some feelings to talk to my boss about. What's strange is, he told me i was layed off, but i still have to come into work, as they're giving me 6 weeks till i'm officially done. I dont get it, why make me come into work?? I feel like **** being here, and am certainly not motivated to do any work.

By no means have I done anything to be fired. Never been late for work, and always got my work done in a timely fashion. Only he can answer these questions for me. Do i feel like i've given 110% to furthering my career? No. It's difficult to give your everything when your heart isint in it. But i have done everything under the sun that has been asked from me.

If i have in fact been fired, this could get very interesting. There must be some type of wrong doing on my part, and i cant wait to hear it

[PhreEkGarden]

If i have in fact been fired, this could get very interesting. There must be some type of wrong doing on my part, and i cant wait to hear it

Ehhh, I got laid off from a job once, its not cool. My boss liked me ALOT though. Some higher up guys made the decision above him though, a lot of people got laid off. My direct boss actually shed a tear that day heh. This was at SAIC. Recently, he asked me to come back... with a nice raise. Not sure I want to though, afraid of the same thing happening...

You sure the 6 weeks thing isnt just them trying to be nice? When they told me I was laid off on friday, they said dont come back monday... wasnt very cool.

Anyway, a layoff is NOT being fired. Doesnt mean youve done anything wrong really. Layoff's are usually the companies way of HAVING to get rid of a lot of people due to money issues.

[IRONMANN1]

Ehhh, I got laid off from a job once, its not cool. My boss liked me ALOT though. Some higher up guys made the decision above him though, a lot of people got laid off. My direct boss actually shed a tear that day heh. This was at SAIC. Recently, he asked me to come back... with a nice raise. Not sure I want to though, afraid of the same thing happening...

You sure the 6 weeks thing isnt just them trying to be nice? When they told me I was laid off on friday, they said dont come back monday... wasnt very cool.

Anyway, a layoff is NOT being fired. Doesnt mean youve done anything wrong really. Layoff's are usually the companies way of HAVING to get rid of a lot of people due to money issues.

Can a company just lay someone off like that?

Bossman expressed to me that it was their way of being nice. But it just seems so strange. Why would they want me here? It's like a shot in the groin. At least throw me some respect.

[littlechick]

basically, they are just using you for your labour.....does not mean you are fired, but they proberly need the work done before they lay off people....

from a human resouces point of view, be careful if they offer you some deal....a freind got laid off from her job, and they wanted her to sign off on future earnings..they brought her back at half her perviuos pay cause she signed it, then they tried to cheat her out of her full UI payments, so be careful what you sign....

[IRONMANN1]

basically, they are just using you for your labour.....does not mean you are fired, but they proberly need the work done before they lay off people....

from a human resouces point of view, be careful if they offer you some deal....a freind got laid off from her job, and they wanted her to sign off on future earnings..they brought her back at half her perviuos pay cause she signed it, then they tried to cheat her out of her full UI payments, so be careful what you sign....

They dont need me for the work though. We are sooo slow right now.

I wont ever be coming back here, so no worries about the papers.

[littlechick]

They dont need me for the work though. We are sooo slow right now.

I wont ever be coming back here, so no worries about the papers.

the papers could screw you over for unepmoyment...so read anything they give you to sign..very closely...

I woulld go to your boss and ask him these questions.....if you don't want to be around for 6 weeks doing **** (they also may have asked you to stay on for 6 weeks to give you time to find something else) then talk to your boss about laying you off now (but don;t quit, then you really screw yourself)

[PhreEkGarden]

Can a company just lay someone off like that?

Bossman expressed to me that it was their way of being nice. But it just seems so strange. Why would they want me here? It's like a shot in the groin. At least throw me some respect.

Well, if they have to lay you off for whatever reason... if someone was living week to week, that 6 weeks could be really nice.

Its more respectful than just saying get out anyway, I think. Which probably means its not something you did to screw up, or they would have just fired you.


When I got laid off, I went back and worked at my first job for awhile.. a seafood place, and got paid under the table while collecting unemployment. I know... im a leech off the government, but it was awesome.

[IRONMANN1]

the papers could screw you over for unepmoyment...so read anything they give you to sign..very closely...

I woulld go to your boss and ask him these questions.....if you don't want to be around for 6 weeks doing **** (they also may have asked you to stay on for 6 weeks to give you time to find something else) then talk to your boss about laying you off now (but don;t quit, then you really screw yourself)

hmmm very interesting. I'll take that into consideration before i talk to my boss.


Well, if they have to lay you off for whatever reason... if someone was living week to week, that 6 weeks could be really nice.

Its more respectful than just saying get out anyway, I think. Which probably means its not something you did to screw up, or they would have just fired you.


When I got laid off, I went back and worked at my first job for awhile.. a seafood place, and got paid under the table while collecting unemployment. I know... im a leech off the government, but it was awesome.

Okay cool. He called the 6 weeks severance pay. Do you still come into work when given severance pay??

[PhreEkGarden]

Okay cool. He called the 6 weeks severance pay. Do you still come into work when given severance pay??

Im not sure on that actually. I know ive heard of that but dont recall... it sounds like pay you might just be entitled to or something. Not sure if you have to work. I suppose these are questions you need to ask though... heh

[IRONMANN1]

Im not sure on that actually. I know ive heard of that but dont recall... it sounds like pay you might just be entitled to or something. Not sure if you have to work. I suppose these are questions you need to ask though... heh

He told me the company was doing it out of good will. Confuses me even more lol.

[IRONMANN1]

So, just got out of my meeting with my boss and i was layed off due to the divisions financial situation and downtime. My 6 weeks are severance pay. I now need to decide whether i want them to go ahead and lay me off and collect unemployment (lol) or stay my 6 weeks (which i think i'm going to do) while getting my interviews underway.

It was a great meeting in fact, and answered all my questions. What a relief!

[I_love_crows]

Glad to hear the "good" news IRON. I hope in those 6 weeks you can land something so that your transition between jobs is at a minimum... Sometimes when things don't quite occur in the manner that I wish them to, it makes me realize that the turn of events are for a specific reason...a good one in the long run.

[IRONMANN1]

Glad to hear the "good" news IRON. I hope in those 6 weeks you can land something so that your transition between jobs is at a minimum... Sometimes when things don't quite occur in the manner that I wish them to, it makes me realize that the turn of events are for a specific reason...a good one in the long run.

That's exactly how i'm looking at it ILC, and honestly it is for the better. I cant wait for what's about to happen next :)

Thanks buddy.

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6/8/07--Shoulders/legs/Tri's--75 Minutes

Power Clean & Strict Press
150x5
150x5
145x5
140x5
140x5

Hack Squat Machine decent machine actually
200x8
200x8
260x8

DB Laterals
35x8
30x10
30x10

CGBP
135x10
195x8
205x5
185x8

HS Seated Dip new exercise
180x8
180x10
200x10


Welp, I thought the back was mended enough to do the PC&SPs, but it really wasnt. Had to struggle thru the last 2 sets, with a bit of pain. Def. shoulda called it quits, but oh wells. The hack squat machine felt pretty damn good, nailed my quads hard. After the PC&SP's i tend to lose a lot of strength. My cgbp def. suffered. I am supposed to do skulls, but looks like i'm going to have to find another exercise, cause my elbows were killing me. Tried the HS seated dip for my second exercise. I like it, as you can really throw weight on it. I got zero pump from it though...is this normal?? I also did a few pressdowns but not worth mentioning.

Good stuff though. Just got back from a Broadway show with my girl, my parents, and some of their friends. It might sound ghey, but I love those damn things :D.

Day off tomorrow! Headin to Ashville to wish my sister and her husband off. They're moving to NYC :eek:.

Holla!

[sparxxx13]

The Power Cleans and Cgbp is very impressive man!!

[Al Swearengen]

It will get there bro. ;)


Have a great weekend IM.

[Jorday]

Solid looking session man. Good job getting the PRs there on the clean and press, hopefully the back wasn't bothered too much by it.

[IRONMANN1]

The Power Cleans and Cgbp is very impressive man!!

Thanks sparx ;)


It will get there bro. ;)


Have a great weekend IM.

You too Al!!! :D

[IRONMANN1]

Solid looking session man. Good job getting the RPs there on the clean and press, hopefully the back wasn't bothered too much by it.

Thanks big J. I prolly need to curb this exercise till the back is mended. It sure didnt feel good lol.

Have a good weekend buddy.

[SwagMorris]

I got zero pump from it though

Maybe do higher reps.

[IRONMANN1]

Maybe do higher reps.

10 rep sets aint enough?!


oh **** my chicken is on fire (no homo, yes serious) :eek:

[LSU1]

glad it all worked out man!

good luck with your next move

[gymratluke]

I dont get a pump from the Seated Dip either...but it TEARS my tri's up!!!

[IRONMANN1]

glad it all worked out man!

good luck with your next move

Why thanks buddddddddddy :p

[IRONMANN1]

I dont get a pump from the Seated Dip either...but it TEARS my tri's up!!!

lol u know what's funny. Right after i answered Dan's post, i got up to check on my burning chicken and as I pushed myself up my tri's were throbbing! LOL, funny stuff.

Hells yeah mighta found my new move :p

[SwagMorris]

10 rep sets aint enough?!




Obviously not butthole.

[IRONMANN1]

Obviously not butthole.



No dan, i will not make buttsecks to you. PMing me progress picks is not going to change the situation either.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/Justin_Gunnar/bren02.jpg

[iKermit]

damnit......did i walk in at the wrong time :eek:

i'm glad you're feeling better about the work situation. how's the back been lately?

[kennny d]

how da **** you do cleans with ur back?

[IRONMANN1]

damnit......did i walk in at the wrong time :eek:

i'm glad you're feeling better about the work situation. how's the back been lately?

lol..thanks bro.

The back is average. I dont know why the hell i'm risking it with these power moves. I'm not touching any bent moves for awhile till this back heals fully.


how da **** you do cleans with ur back?

Cause i'm an idiot. I was belted for all my sets, but it was still stupid as hell. I'm being impatient. It's def. bothering me more tonight than it has been the past few days, and it's cause of those powercleans.

I'm taking a break from teh bent moves for awhile...

Night guys, got a full day tomorrow.

Have a grrrrrrrrrrreat weekend :)

[daYDreAmErX]

Cause i'm an idiot.

Take care, I don't want you to hurt yourself more :o


Have a grrrrrrrrrrreat weekend :)

You too have an niiiiiiiiiice weekend !!

[kennny d]

lol..thanks bro.

Cause i'm an idiot. I was belted for all my sets, but it was still stupid as hell. I'm being impatient. It's def. bothering me more tonight than it has been the past few days, and it's cause of those powercleans.

I'm taking a break from teh bent moves for awhile...

Night guys, got a full day tomorrow.

Have a grrrrrrrrrrreat weekend :)

take it from someone whos been there, LET IT HEAL !!!!!!!!

[Manuel73]

Cause i'm an idiot. I was belted for all my sets, but it was still stupid as hell. I'm being impatient. It's def. bothering me more tonight than it has been the past few days, and it's cause of those powercleans.

I'm taking a break from teh bent moves for awhile...



don't play with your LB bro.....you could end up paying the price like me....almost 4 years without squatting and deads and always kinda scared of getting injured once again....i love squats and deads....before i got injured i did 315lbs x 10 GVT (squats) and 350-400 for reps (deads) on a regular basis....now all those lifts are gone, cause i was stupid enough not to take properly care of my body and end up injuring my self pretty bad.....the fact i could avoid surgery is a miracle in itself......learn from mine and others mistakes bud......don't be a fool with your body.......and i'm sorry if i'm being too honest but i don't wish for anyone especially a friend to go through what i suffered.....


take it from someone whos been there, LET IT HEAL !!!!!!!!

QFT!!

[IRONMANN1]

Take care, I don't want you to hurt yourself more :o



You too have an niiiiiiiiiice weekend !!

You got it val :)


take it from someone whos been there, LET IT HEAL !!!!!!!!

I know. And i am. Done being foolish :/


don't play with your LB bro.....you could end up paying the price like me....almost 4 years without squatting and deads and always kinda scared of getting injured once again....i love squats and deads....before i got injured i did 315lbs x 10 GVT (squats) and 350-400 for reps (deads) on a regular basis....now all those lifts are gone, cause i was stupid enough not to take properly care of my body and end up injuring my self pretty bad.....the fact i could avoid surgery is a miracle in itself......learn from mine and others mistakes bud......don't be a fool with your body.......and i'm sorry if i'm being too honest but i don't wish for anyone especially a friend to go through what i suffered.....



QFT!!

:eek:


I understand completely what yall are saying. I'm going to alter my main big moves to where they're back friendly along with the assistance exercises that are dangerous too.

Thanks for the comments everyone :)

[sparxxx13]

Enjoy your weekend man ;)

[IRONMANN1]

Enjoy your weekend man ;)

Thanks buddy you too :D

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6/10/07--Grip/Bi's/Forearms/Cardio--75 Minutes

WG HangsSeconds
BWx75
BWx60
BWx60

BB Curls
65x15
95x5
115x6
135x4
95x15

UH Wrist Curls
80x10
100x8
100x8
100x8

Supersetted With:

OH Wrist Curls
50x8
50x8
50x8
50x8

Bi Circuit
EZ Preacher Curls
Incline DB Curls
Two Arm High Pulley Cable Curls


Cardio
30 Minutes LI on Treadmill
Total Calories Burned: 325

Awesome lift. Hangs are increasing nicely. Should be to 2 minutes before long. Awesomeness to have a plate on for BB curls. My forearms have gotten remarkably larger and vascular. The bi circuit consisted of the 3 exercises shown all with 3 sets of higher reps 8+. Cardio for now on is only LI. I only have a little bit of fat left to lose, so no need in going crazy with intense cardio.

Pool time! :cool:

[kennny d]

You got any pics, how lean are you now? I'm down to 197, I put up a pic on my journal

[IRONMANN1]

You got any pics, how lean are you now? I'm down to 197, I put up a pic on my journal

I'm pretty damn lean man. 194 yesterday morning.

Stolen camera and in between jobs so i'm not going to buy one just yet. No reason i cant borrow my parents though. I'll go pick it up within the next couple days.

Subtract 10 more lbs off my avatar and that's where i'm at.


Got very visible ab definition. 5 more lbs and i'll jump on the extreemly clean bulk.

Still fighting the small tire around my waist. :mad: lol

[PhreEkGarden]

So, just got out of my meeting with my boss and i was layed off due to the divisions financial situation and downtime. My 6 weeks are severance pay. I now need to decide whether i want them to go ahead and lay me off and collect unemployment (lol) or stay my 6 weeks (which i think i'm going to do) while getting my interviews underway.

It was a great meeting in fact, and answered all my questions. What a relief!

Thats great man, thats kind of what happened to me. After I talked with my boss about it I felt much better about the situation. It still greatly annoys me to this day when people think a layoff and being fired is the same. Anyway, you really need to take it easy with the back, but looks like you already realized that. :D

Nice arm day, im definitely gonna start doing more bicep work to bring up my girlish arms. Guy I saw last night who I havent seen in awhile had pretty nice sized arms, but im sure im alot stronger than on him than everything else... it just made me wanna bring up my arms some, ya know? My focus is getting stronger but id like to atleast somewhat look the part. :D

What is your best squat btw? Just wondering, maybe this back injury will allow me the time I need.... lol :p

Edit: Damn, im excited to see those lean pics of you come the end of the month. (no homo)

[SwagMorris]

You're prioritizing ****... what a f@ggot!


















































































































:D

[IRONMANN1]

Thats great man, thats kind of what happened to me. After I talked with my boss about it I felt much better about the situation. It still greatly annoys me to this day when people think a layoff and being fired is the same. Anyway, you really need to take it easy with the back, but looks like you already realized that. :D

Nice arm day, im definitely gonna start doing more bicep work to bring up my girlish arms. Guy I saw last night who I havent seen in awhile had pretty nice sized arms, but im sure im alot stronger than on him than everything else... it just made me wanna bring up my arms some, ya know? My focus is getting stronger but id like to atleast somewhat look the part. :D

What is your best squat btw? Just wondering, maybe this back injury will allow me the time I need.... lol :p

Edit: Damn, im excited to see those lean pics of you come the end of the month. (no homo)

yooooooooo phreek. The loss of my job was a blessing in disguise. I'm really looking foward to what lies ahead.

Thanks bro. Yeah my arms actually are starting to look decent on me. They're pretty damn cut up, but are still much smaller than i want them. Sitting cold they're only 15.75ish, but pumped are a little bigger than 16.25. I feel ya on having smallish arms...sucks lol.

My best squat was 415, but i when i was squatting heavy i def. had a good bit more in me. I hit 405x5 at one point, and im sure i coulda hit 455 then.

Yeah man i'm lookin foward to gettin some pics up and seeing everyone's progress. Should be very interesting :D


You're prioritizing ****... what a f@ggot!





lol...vintage dan :D

[iKermit]

do you use a straight bar for the curls?

[IRONMANN1]

do you use a straight bar for the curls?

yes sirrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[iKermit]

yes sirrrrrrrrrrrrrr

find it hits the biceps better than the EZ?

[IRONMANN1]

find it hits the biceps better than the EZ?

Yeah, i do. BB curls are the ultimate imo.

[iKermit]

Yeah, i do. BB curls are the ultimate imo.

i saw Mike Mentzer say that they hit the biceps more where EZ curls work the brachialias more...i'll give them a go tomorrow with shoulders.

[IRONMANN1]

i saw Mike Mentzer say that they hit the biceps more where EZ curls work the brachialias more...i'll give them a go tomorrow with shoulders.

sweeeeet....kill it buddy :cool:

[SwagMorris]

lol...vintage dan :D

You know I'm kidding of course, and I really do believe prioritizing is like 90% of the work that's done in the weightroom.

[IRONMANN1]

You know I'm kidding of course, and I really do believe prioritizing is like 90% of the work that's done in the weightroom.

Of course i know youre kidding :p

Of course priortizing is important...that's why splits were created :D

[SwagMorris]

Of course i know youre kidding :p

Of course priortizing is important...that's why splits were created :D

Well you don't have to do a split to prioritize:D But we don't have to go into detail, just that people try so hard to follow cookie cutter routines, even making body split routines cookie cutter now a days.

Oh, BTW, were those curls in the squat rack?

[IRONMANN1]

Well you don't have to do a split to prioritize:D But we don't have to go into detail, just that people try so hard to follow cookie cutter routines, even making body split routines cookie cutter now a days.

Oh, BTW, were those curls in the squat rack?


Dem curls were in teh power rack :D

Southpark peak is a ghost town on Sundays. I got in there early too...prolly only 15 people in the entire gym.

[SwagMorris]

Dem curls were in teh power rack :D

Southpark peak is a ghost town on Sundays. I got in there early too...prolly only 15 people in the entire gym.

I don't even know where that is. The only gyms I ever lifted at in Charlotte were the Gold's now Peak on 51, and the Harris YMCA. Gyms in Utah aren't even open on Sundays;) The 24 hour one's close at midnight on Saturdays, and then open back up at 5 am monday mornings.

[IRONMANN1]

I don't even know where that is. The only gyms I ever lifted at in Charlotte were the Gold's now Peak on 51, and the Harris YMCA. Gyms in Utah aren't even open on Sundays;) The 24 hour one's close at midnight on Saturdays, and then open back up at 5 am monday mornings.

wow...how can they just shut the gym down like that lol..



Damn i hope I havent screwed myself out of becoming a po nan :(

[SwagMorris]

wow...how can they just shut the gym down like that lol..



Damn i hope I havent screwed myself out of becoming a po nan :(

Barely anyone would go on Sunday anyway. The state shuts down on Sundays:D

I doubt you've screwed yourself over. Probably have just delayed the process.

[IRONMANN1]

Barely anyone would go on Sunday anyway. The state shuts down on Sundays:D

I doubt you've screwed yourself over. Probably have just delayed the process.

Move back to charlotte biatch. I need a training session on how to properly curl in teh squat rack. Dude it felt pretty wild to have a plate on curls today.

lololol u prolly aint gonna believe me, but when i had a plate on in the power rack, a dude i know at the gym had a plate on for curls in the squat rack. I swear on my life :D


The process cant be delayed damnit! I'm ready to get this thing goin! :/

[sparxxx13]

So your saying that bb curls hit teh biceps more than the ez bar curls? I heard that bb curls hurt your wrist more than ez bar curls as well?

[IRONMANN1]

So your saying that bb curls hit teh biceps more than the ez bar curls? I heard that bb curls hurt your wrist more than ez bar curls as well?

I'm sure ez bar curls are very effective. I just feel like my bi's get torn up more from a straight bar. Yeah it hurts the wrists a little bit, but not bad enough to keep me from doin them. Also, i've noticed if i do them first in the w/o the wrist pain isint as bad as if i do them later in the w/o.

Try em both, heck do em both :)

[LSU1]

both curls are good

if you can do bb curls with no wrist pain, do em.

if not, use ez bar

[gymratluke]

both curls are good

if you can do bb curls with no wrist pain, do em.

if not, use ez bar

Agreed!

[iKermit]

here's the video that i was talking about..

Mike Mentzer talking about straight vs EZ for biceps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a5uDmwJFp4)
...around 20 seconds in

[gymratluke]

here's the video that i was talking about..

Mike Mentzer talking about straight vs EZ for biceps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a5uDmwJFp4)
...around 20 seconds in

I personally think EZ bar and Str8 bar are equally important since Brac and Bis both contribute to overal arm size....

[iKermit]

I personally think EZ bar and Str8 bar are equally important since Brac and Bis both contribute to overal arm size....

yeah i agree but i've typically used the EZ bar more..

but to hit my biceps more than the brachialas as i already do a lot of hammer curls, i'll give the straight bar another go.

[SwagMorris]

I'm sure ez bar curls are very effective. I just feel like my bi's get torn up more from a straight bar. Yeah it hurts the wrists a little bit, but not bad enough to keep me from doin them. Also, i've noticed if i do them first in the w/o the wrist pain isint as bad as if i do them later in the w/o.

Try em both, heck do em both :)

I don't get any pain when I do them, so I guess I'm cooler than you:D

[IRONMANN1]

Well, i began a cycle of 11-oxo today.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/11oxo.html

I will be continuing my cutting diet while on this. I'm going to run the entire cycle at 450mg (2x serving). 3 bottles will be used.

Begin weight: 194
Target weight: 198

Begin BF%: 16%
Target BF%: 13%

I will be doing 3 days LI cardio/week. Cals will be ~2300 with less than 80g carbs/day.

6oxo for pct, nolva on hand.

[littlechick]

druggie.

[daYDreAmErX]

druggie.

I lol'ed

[IRONMANN1]

druggie.

haha..


..it's perfectly legal babydoll. :)

You gonna disqualify me from the comp??? lol


In all honesty, i dont expect it to do too much sense it's non-methylated.

[littlechick]

haha..


..it's perfectly legal babydoll. :)

You gonna disqualify me from the comp??? lol


In all honesty, i dont expect it to do too much sense it's non-methylated.

are you speaking teh german???
no disqualification, but be careful ok?? one thing leads to another :(

[IRONMANN1]

are you speaking teh german???
no disqualification, but be careful ok?? one thing leads to another :(

haha

Oh i'll be careful. Always take the precautions. It's a safe supplement from what i've read, so no real worries. Not toxic by any means.

Got a big week planned??

[daYDreAmErX]

are you speaking teh german???
no disqualification, but be careful ok?? one thing leads to another :(

blablabla :rolleyes:

[littlechick]

haha

Oh i'll be careful. Always take the precautions. It's a safe supplement from what i've read, so no real worries. Not toxic by any means.

Got a big week planned??

I just don;t want you to get into someting bad....:(

big week yes...register for comp, get my routine costume, get my hair uberblonde, learn to do my make-up, maybe a suit fitting..crunch time now :)

[IRONMANN1]

blablabla :rolleyes:

What chu blaaing about? :mad:

[IRONMANN1]

I just don;t want you to get into someting bad....:(

big week yes...register for comp, get my routine costume, get my hair uberblonde, learn to do my make-up, maybe a suit fitting..crunch time now :)

WHEW!


Holla if ya need any help getting that suit on ;)

lol

[daYDreAmErX]

What chu blaaing about? :mad:

I'm taking my drugs.

Melting Point + Potassium (fantastic !!) + magnesium :cool:

[IRONMANN1]

I'm taking my drugs.

Melting Point + Potassium (fantastic !!) + magnesium :cool:

haha awesome...should work very well...

where's the sesamin?

[daYDreAmErX]

where's the sesamin?

I don't take any. Why ?

I have some other supps too ;)

[IRONMANN1]

I don't take any. Why ?

I have some other supps too ;)

Melting point and sesamin stack very well together.


I bet you do! :p

[G_Train]

Melting point and sesamin stack very well together.


I bet you do! :p
cell-tech is teh best steroid there is

[daYDreAmErX]

I bet you do! :p

Posted them last week :

Scorch : 3x2 caps
Salmon oil : 2x2 caps
Flaxseeds oil : 1x2 caps
multi 1x2 caps
Melting Point 1x2 (am), 1x1 (pm)
Potassium 200mgx2
Magnesium 200 mgx2

[daYDreAmErX]

cell-tech is teh best steroid there is

Don't mention it here coz it is teh illegal stuff.

[G_Train]

Don't mention it here coz it is teh illegal stuff.
ah **** s0n ..



oh hai dat dere IRONMAN1 and DAYDREAMERX :cool:

[daYDreAmErX]

ah **** s0n ..



oh hai dat dere IRONMAN1 and DAYDREAMERX :cool:

Should call me teh girl :cool:

Now that you talked about teh cell-tech I feel I have hyuge bicepTz.

[IRONMANN1]

cell-tech is teh best steroid there is

u know where i can get some of dat dere cell tecH?


Posted them last week :

Scorch : 3x2 caps
Salmon oil : 2x2 caps
Flaxseeds oil : 1x2 caps
multi 1x2 caps
Melting Point 1x2 (am), 1x1 (pm)
Potassium 200mgx2
Magnesium 200 mgx2

nice. That's nothing compared to what some take. I've seen lists of over 50 different supps. I take 16 different supps lol. ****, i take 30 uni-liver pills a day lol.


ah **** s0n ..



oh hai dat dere IRONMAN1 and DAYDREAMERX :cool:


Who you?! WHO IS YOU!?!? Idwentify yourslefvs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111

[G_Train]

Should call me teh girl :cool:

Now that you talked about teh cell-tech I feel I have hyuge bicepTz.
i know you're a gurl :rolleyes:

i can see those cut diamonds and jacked fibras

[daYDreAmErX]

****, i take 30 uni-liver pills a day lol.

Used to take 20-30/day. This sh*t is great :D



Who you?! WHO IS YOU!?!? Idwentify yourslefvs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111

Luke, I'm your dad.



i can see those cut diamonds and jacked fibras

I have teh hyuge armz u wanna fight ?

[G_Train]

Who you?! WHO IS YOU!?!? Idwentify yourslefvs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111

http://www.carbidebur.com/equinedentalsupplies/equine-dental.jpg

[IRONMANN1]

Used to take 20-30/day. This sh*t is great :D



Why'd you stop? :eek:

I cant believe more people dont take uniliver. 6 pills is a quick 10g protein :)

[IRONMANN1]

http://www.carbidebur.com/equinedentalsupplies/equine-dental.jpg

lollers

those pics answer any question :D

[daYDreAmErX]

Why'd you stop? :eek:


Ran out !! It costs a lot in Canada, I have to order form bb.com but the shipping is expensive so I'm waiting until I have more stuff to buy.

[G_Train]

lollers

those pics answer any question :D
lol yeah ... i'm trying to figure out a way to incorporate them in the real world so as to avoid awkard situations

[IRONMANN1]

Ran out !! It costs a lot in Canada, I have to order form bb.com but the shipping is expensive so I'm waiting until I have more stuff to buy.

Gotcha! ****, order 3 tubs of it at a time :D The stuff is dirt cheap!

[daYDreAmErX]

Gotcha! ****, order 3 tubs of it at a time :D The stuff is dirt cheap!

That's what I usually do man !!! I'm a poor starving student :(

[IRONMANN1]

That's what I usually do man !!! I'm a poor starving student :(

I hear ya on that :/

I just lost my job lol :(

Got six weeks and i'm gone. Freaking laying people off left and right here. Saw 2 more emails today that people were leaving. Something shady's goin on...hmmmmmmmm

[gymratluke]

Well, i began a cycle of 11-oxo today.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/11oxo.html

I will be continuing my cutting diet while on this. I'm going to run the entire cycle at 450mg (2x serving). 3 bottles will be used.

Begin weight: 194
Target weight: 198

Begin BF%: 16%
Target BF%: 13%

I will be doing 3 days LI cardio/week. Cals will be ~2300 with less than 80g carbs/day.

6oxo for pct, nolva on hand.


Wait, WTH is the PCT for?!

[IRONMANN1]

Wait, WTH is the PCT for?!

lol...it's mildly hormonal, so there is a chance it will shut your natty test down some... and i'm running it at 2x recommended dose.

They reccomend a light pct, so i'm running 6oxo.

[I_love_crows]

Well, i began a cycle of 11-oxo today.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/11oxo.html

I will be continuing my cutting diet while on this. I'm going to run the entire cycle at 450mg (2x serving). 3 bottles will be used.

Begin weight: 194
Target weight: 198

Begin BF%: 16%
Target BF%: 13%

I will be doing 3 days LI cardio/week. Cals will be ~2300 with less than 80g carbs/day.

6oxo for pct, nolva on hand.


Good luck with this man. How's the backitis btw?

[IRONMANN1]

Good luck with this man. How's the backitis btw?

Thanks bro. It's doing alright. Still tight as FCUK! Def. aint doin any free squatting/DL'ing for a long while.

[I_love_crows]

Thanks bro. It's doing alright. Still tight as FCUK! Def. aint doin any free squatting/DL'ing for a long while.

Dude, I just noticed your f*cking weight. 194? :eek:

[IRONMANN1]

Dude, I just noticed your f*cking weight. 194? :eek:

lol yep.

i'm pretty f'ing ripped up....not gonna lie :D

will have pics up this week. expect teh unexpected lollers

in 3 weeks i should be nasty ripped (for me that is :p)

[sparxxx13]

You better be nasty ripped ;)

[littlechick]

lol yep.

i'm pretty f'ing ripped up....not gonna lie :D

will have pics up this week. expect teh unexpected lollers

in 3 weeks i should be nasty ripped (for me that is :p)

:)

[LSU1]

better be puttin me to shame after this cut bro

expecting big things......also glad you started the cycle ill be watching this one closely

[kennny d]

i'm pretty f'ing ripped up....not gonna lie :D


http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/klausmr_big11.jpg

[IRONMANN1]

You better be nasty ripped ;)

lol...remember, i said "for me" :D


:)

LOL lc on top of the post regarding Pics :D


better be puttin me to shame after this cut bro

expecting big things......also glad you started the cycle ill be watching this one closely

No shame bro :p

I'm going to deliver big things too, yall know i'm good for it :)


Did you see the cycle summary i posted LSU??

[I_love_crows]

lol yep.

i'm pretty f'ing ripped up....not gonna lie :D

will have pics up this week. expect teh unexpected lollers

in 3 weeks i should be nasty ripped (for me that is :p)

Can't wait for the pics (no homo). Sounds like you've been puttin' in work bro.

[IRONMANN1]

lol dk


glad that was at the bottom of the page :D

[nitrored]

lol dk


glad that was at the bottom of the page :D
what? this?

http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/klausmr_big11.jpg

:D

[LSU1]

yea looks good

saw they recommended 6-oxo extreme for pct as well. who knows what the hell the difference is between those two

as long as you have some nolva just in case all will be well

[IRONMANN1]

Can't wait for the pics (no homo). Sounds like you've been puttin' in work bro.

It's been a hell of a cut bruh. Successful one too. Only one real hiccup (my sister's wedding).

Will finish up around 190 prolly, but with 11oxo i should be able to add some mass before comp time is up. So that'll be 36lbs total that i cut.

Never knew i was so fat lol...now i know how/why everyone underestimates their BF%.

[IRONMANN1]

yea looks good

saw they recommended 6-oxo extreme for pct as well. who knows what the hell the difference is between those two

as long as you have some nolva just in case all will be well

Yeah i've got 6oxo extreme actually.

Figured i may as well get the new one :D


When you gettin started buddy? You've been killing it in the gym lately....anything you need to tell me??? ;) :D :D :D

[PhreEkGarden]

what? this?


:D

Owned. I would have missed it too if you didnt say on the last page. lol

[PhreEkGarden]

You just need to take some diet advice from MJH, shakes, peanut butter and liqour, and like 10% bf. lol

[IRONMANN1]

what? this?


:D

lmao....you assmaster :D

[kennny d]

what? this?


:D

lmfao

[LSU1]

Yeah i've got 6oxo extreme actually.

Figured i may as well get the new one :D


When you gettin started buddy? You've been killing it in the gym lately....anything you need to tell me??? ;) :D :D :D

creatine mono and protein for the moment

cycle should start around early july.

im gonna try to workout over my vacation which starts august 9th and runs until august 13th i think

ill be in south beach but i should still be able to get in lots of protein and workout.

goals will be to incline press 115x6
incline bb 235x5
chin +70x5
sldl 405x5
narrow front squat 275x5

lofty goals, but i think i can reach em...:p

[kennny d]

creatine mono and protein for the moment

cycle should start around early july.

im gonna try to workout over my vacation which starts august 9th and runs until august 13th i think

ill be in south beach but i should still be able to get in lots of protein and workout.

goals will be to incline press 115x6
incline bb 235x5
chin +70x5
sldl 405x5
narrow front squat 275x5

lofty goals, but i think i can reach em...:p
goals look solid bro

[PhreEkGarden]

Jeez, IRON spamming the journal today.

Shouldnt you go back to work before you get fired* or something?






:D:p:D:p



*laid off

[IRONMANN1]

You just need to take some diet advice from MJH, shakes, peanut butter and liqour, and like 10% bf. lol

:eek: Bet that's real good for muscle retention.


lmfao

:mad: lol


creatine mono and protein for the moment

cycle should start around early july.

im gonna try to workout over my vacation which starts august 9th and runs until august 13th i think

ill be in south beach but i should still be able to get in lots of protein and workout.

goals will be to incline press 115x6
incline bb 235x5
chin +70x5
sldl 405x5
narrow front squat 275x5

lofty goals, but i think i can reach em...:p

Big goals there bud, but with this being your first cycle i wouldnt be suprised if ya hit em. That incline bb and sldl number is very large. Those would be the only ones in which u may struggle to obtain.

Take no prisoners buddy! :D


Jeez, IRON spamming the journal today.

Shouldnt you go back to work before you get fired* or something?





*laid off

lol...i'll be doing absolutely nothing for up to six weeks. Only job i have it to find a job, workout and make sure my girl is happy :D

[IRONMANN1]

6/11/07--Chest--60 Minutes

BB Bench Press
135x8
185x2
230x5
230x4+1
225x4+1
225x3+2
215x3+2

HS Incline new exercise
90x8
110x8
90x8

Incline DB Flys
55x8
50x8
50x8

Dips
+70x8
+60x8
+45x8

Sweet jesus i hit failure on every exercise except flys. BB bench was a bear today. Losing all this weight has def. taken it's toll! I'm still happy though, at least i got the first set cleanly. Second set i ALMOST got all 5. After reaching failure on that second set, i was just dead the rest of the w/o. Failure was reached on HS incline and dips.

Def. taking tomorrow off after this bear of a lift

[Rune]

194... :eek: wow dude, strong weight loss.

Not too bad, definitely looks like your bench took a shot to the balls though :p

[IRONMANN1]

194... :eek: wow dude, strong weight loss.

Not too bad, definitely looks like your bench took a shot to the balls though :p

-34lbs so far :p


abs ftw :D

Yeah bp took a bit of a shot to teh balls, but it's coming back..it sure as hell is nice to be lean and light tho...i wouldnt trade it for any amount of strength...being fat ftl :(

[PowerBuilder08]

Nothing like hitting failure on your first exercise and it ****s up the rest of your day. Good job pushing yourself through the rest of the workout tho, and make sure you enjoy RESTing tomorrow :D

[Rune]

-34lbs so far :p


abs ftw :D

Yeah bp took a bit of a shot to teh balls, but it's coming back..it sure as hell is nice to be lean and light tho...i wouldnt trade it for any amount of strength...being fat ftl :(

Thats a lot of weight man... I'm only down around 220 (about 14lbs) in the same amount of time. How's the cut going though? Did I miss any pics or anything?

Eh, I just don't want to eat that little, I like food, so I'l cut slower. Besides, even though I think I'm fat any time I've ever said that to anybody (male or female) they jsut say I'm crazy... good thing about carrying a lot of muscle is it makes you look less fat than you actually are. :D

[kennny d]

-34lbs so far :p


abs ftw :D

Yeah bp took a bit of a shot to teh balls, but it's coming back..it sure as hell is nice to be lean and light tho...i wouldnt trade it for any amount of strength...being fat ftl :(

x2 bro, if I look good I feel good man I make it a point to stay lean.. just wait till your under the sun on the beach, the last thing you'l lcare is about a little strength loss on bench

btw it just hit me how weight you've dropped, congrats man.. makes my whoppin 9lbs nada

[IRONMANN1]

Thats a lot of weight man... I'm only down around 220 (about 14lbs) in the same amount of time. How's the cut going though? Did I miss any pics or anything?

Eh, I just don't want to eat that little, I like food, so I'l cut slower. Besides, even though I think I'm fat any time I've ever said that to anybody (male or female) they jsut say I'm crazy... good thing about carrying a lot of muscle is it makes you look less fat than you actually are. :D

The cut's going great man. My avatar pic is when i was at 206, so subtract 12 more lbs off that for where im at now. I'll have a number of pics up in 3 weeks for LC's comp. But, i'll have some progress pics up this week as well.

They all used to say that to me too, but the fact is, i was fat and i knew it. I agree that alot of muscle hides fat well, but in reality you're still carrying alot of fat. It's gotta come off at some point. I agree with the slow cut, but i had a time duration, so i decided to go full out. I wont ever full out dirty bulk again...too much work in cutting it back off.

Boy i cant wait till my first big cheat :p


x2 bro, if I look good I feel good man I make it a point to stay lean.. just wait till your under the sun on the beach, the last thing you'l lcare is about a little strength loss on bench

You know it buddy. Like i said in my post to rune..i'll never get that fat again. It feels so good to be lean, and be able to take your shirt off and look good at any time.

I never looked "fat", but in reality i was.

[IRONMANN1]

Nothing like hitting failure on your first exercise and it ****s up the rest of your day. Good job pushing yourself through the rest of the workout tho, and make sure you enjoy RESTing tomorrow :D

Thanks buddy! And i sureeeeeeee will :p

[Dustin92]

Good w/o man. Great PR's you have there.

Can't wait to see those progress pics(no homo)
Keep up the god work bro!! :)

[LSU1]

194... :eek: wow dude, strong weight loss.

Not too bad, definitely looks like your bench took a shot to the balls though :p

lol shot to the balls


...i wouldnt trade it for any amount of strength...being fat ftl :(

yep, welcome to the darkside

solid workout man

[IRONMANN1]

Good w/o man. Great PR's you have there.

Can't wait to see those progress pics(no homo)
Keep up the god work bro!! :)


Thanks buddy! Dont know if it's god-like work...but i'll take what i can get! :p


lol shot to the balls



yep, welcome to the darkside

solid workout man

You know it buddy...feels good to be here :p

[G_Train]

http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/klausmr_big11.jpg
after i fapped i fapped again.


I just get lost in his eyes.

[kennny d]

after i fapped i fapped again.


I just get lost in his eyes.

dont worry, its okay for a guy to fap to klaus, just means you got good taste

[G_Train]

dont worry, its okay for a guy to fap to klaus, just means you got good taste
i are aware :D

[SwagMorris]

Chest Day?!?!:eek: You trying to be a bodybuilder or something?:confused:

Nice workout! Sounds intense, what with all the going to failure and what not.

When do you stop your cut?

[IRONMANN1]

Chest Day?!?!:eek: You trying to be a bodybuilder or something?:confused:

Nice workout! Sounds intense, what with all the going to failure and what not.

When do you stop your cut?

haha...i have def. morphed over to the bber side, but will always enjoy 1RM's and the such. Guess i more of a powerbuilder :/ lol..

It's not that i wanted to go to failure, those were the poundages i was supposed to be on. Quite frankly, i just got owned. Looks like i've stalled on my chest work, and am going to have to just keep working it to get stronger. Next week i'll stay with 230 and hope to get that second set at least. That'll be a PR.

I'll stop my cut in 3 weeks, or when i have full ab definition. Whichever comes first.

[PhreEkGarden]

Just my opinion, I think you should probably stick with 225 next week. Its not like youre going to get stronger next week at this point in your cut. No reason to go for 230 if youre just going to get owned by it again....

I would just try to get a good chest workout and leave out the blue at this point in your cut. Youll be repping 230 as soon as you get off the cut im sure. Or maybe you just had a bad day, dunno...

[ThickAsABrick]

haha...i have def. morphed over to the bber side,

Plenty of room for ya.
Welcome!

:D

[littlechick]

hello :) how are you doing today mr??????????

[IRONMANN1]

Just my opinion, I think you should probably stick with 225 next week. Its not like youre going to get stronger next week at this point in your cut. No reason to go for 230 if youre just going to get owned by it again....

I would just try to get a good chest workout and leave out the blue at this point in your cut. Youll be repping 230 as soon as you get off the cut im sure. Or maybe you just had a bad day, dunno...

In a way i agree with you, but i'm not going to do that. I'll go down in weight each set in an attempt to reach 5 reps cleanly. I just misjudged it on my later sets. For some reason i went into this workout really flat. I could tell i was flat on the very first set. Plus, i'm on 11oxo, and it should yeild some strength gains. ****...I got the first set, and almost the second. If i complete the second set next week, that will be a gain and a PR.

See what i'm sayin bruh?


Plenty of room for ya.
Welcome!

:D

haha...thanks buddddddddddddy

[IRONMANN1]

hello :) how are you doing today mr??????????

Heya LC :)

I'm doin well, awaiting major DOMS to kick in from teh painful w/o yesterday. Boom failure everywhere!!!!!!!!

[I_love_crows]

6/11/07--Chest--60 Minutes

BB Bench Press
135x8
185x2
230x5
230x4+1
225x4+1
225x3+2
215x3+2

HS Incline new exercise
90x8
110x8
90x8

Incline DB Flys
55x8
50x8
50x8

Dips
+70x8
+60x8
+45x8

Sweet jesus i hit failure on every exercise except flys. BB bench was a bear today. Losing all this weight has def. taken it's toll! I'm still happy though, at least i got the first set cleanly. Second set i ALMOST got all 5. After reaching failure on that second set, i was just dead the rest of the w/o. Failure was reached on HS incline and dips.

Def. taking tomorrow off after this bear of a lift


I feel ya bro. After a crazy ass workout, sometimes I'll take the next day off for full recuperation. Still a strong workout though buddy. The HS incline machine is kick-ass.

[IRONMANN1]

I feel ya bro. After a crazy ass workout, sometimes I'll take the next day off for full recuperation. Still a strong workout though buddy. The HS incline machine is kick-ass.

YOooooooo thanks budday

I slept incredible last night, so am gonna go in for Back and cardio today...feelin pretty good actually.


Yeah i love the HS incline machine. I really focus on poking my chest out as much as possible so it's fully recruited.

[I_love_crows]

YOooooooo thanks budday

I slept incredible last night, so am gonna go in for Back and cardio today...feelin pretty good actually.


Yeah i love the HS incline machine. I really focus on poking my chest out as much as possible so it's fully recruited.


Yup. Our HS machine is right in front of the mirror, so it motivates me to see my HYOOOOGE teh pump during all sets. :D

[IRONMANN1]

Yup. Our HS machine is right in front of the mirror, so it motivates me to see my HYOOOOGE teh pump during all sets. :D

haha...I tell you what, that damn HS Incline really gets teh pump going. 8-10 rep range seems to be a perfect number for me on it.

I'm gonna keep HS Incline in teh routine till my back heals...then back to DB's.