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Tim
11-02-2001, 01:28 PM
I've read good things about it colostrum in 3 different magazines. I'm considering buying some, but before I do, I was wondering what you all think about it. Has anyone tried it? Does it help your gains at all or is it just another useless supplement hyped up by muscle magazines?

Fit For Life
11-02-2001, 01:55 PM
I think Colostrum might be promising in the bb industry, but at what amounts, I don't know yet.

I have read a lot about colostrum, and all of its properties, but I am not sure if the 3g that most suggest is enough?? I have heard 20g of pure organic bovine colostrum, but 20g a day is pricey. I think colostrum will evolve over the years, and we will find other products to use along with it.

Right now, I am not sure if most want to pay a wallet load of money for Closotrum until a few published studies have been put out on the uses of it in athletes.

I would wait a while.

I haven't come to a conclusion yet, but I am keeping an eye out on all the info and studies to come.

fit

little lats
11-02-2001, 03:25 PM
I just use my wives it is expensive though.

Fit For Life
11-02-2001, 03:34 PM
I was thinking that same thing. Maybe we could get some company to find a lot of pregnant, lactating women, and have them save tons in a bottle.

Hmmm.... Gives me an idea.


I could call it Liquid Lactating Colostrum. I could make millions on an 8oz bottle of the stuff.

LMFAO..... :)

fit

Big Cat
11-02-2001, 04:31 PM
Mero A, Miikkulainen H, Riski J, Pakkanen R, Aalto J, Takala T.
Effects of bovine colostrum supplementation on serum IGF-I, IgG, hormone, and saliva IgA during training.
Department of Biology of Physical Activity, University of Jyvaskyla, 40351 Jyvaskyla, Finland.
J Appl Physiol 1997 Oct;83(4):1144-51

Here is one for ya fit. Bovine colostrum elicits a positive response to serum IGF1 in athletes during training is the conclusion I believe. I'll post some more if I find them.

I think the conclusion on colostrum is the same as that one products like HMB and Ribose. They are good stuff, but they never be cheap enough to make an impact on the industry. You simply need to much and it costs too much to make. But its great for health, I've read a ton of studies on colostrum improving immune response. This one indicates that it may be beneficial to gains. All studies used a considerably higher dose than 3 grams however ...

Tim
11-02-2001, 04:35 PM
So I guess I'm not going to buy any. At least not yet.

Fit For Life
11-02-2001, 04:46 PM
Yeah, all the stuff with it about the immune system is great, and I would like to read more about it, and the effects of it on the IgG, A,E, etc.

Now, as far as bodybuilding goes, I am not sure what the highest amount they have used is??

Now for $$$ reasons, suppose you take in 1tsp which is usually 2.5g of Colostrum.

Now, $22.49 for a 30serv bottle is about in the normal range.

Say 10g of Colostrum is enough to help bodybuilders.

That puts you at 7.5 days, and $22.49

So a months supply would run you roughly $93.00 at 10g per day.

If studies show 30g is what it takes...... SHELL OUT $279.00 for a months supply.

I don't know if Colostrum will go down in price, but my guess is if studies prove more and more, the price will JUMP.

fit

Big Cat
11-02-2001, 04:52 PM
Don't think it will Jump, it won't go down though. Not much room to go down, think of how little colostrum is in milk and how hard it is to separate. Its a tough procedure.

Tim
11-02-2001, 04:58 PM
Then I guess only the richest bodybuilders will ever be able to afford to take effective doses.

Solaris2Ny
11-03-2001, 01:43 PM
you can get it chaep from **************.com

steven
12-03-2001, 06:47 AM
Colostrum has been proven to be beneficial for athletes who take 60 grams a day of it. No problem since my dad owns a supplement company. (yeah right)

The Conqueror
12-03-2001, 06:58 AM
I wonder why FLEX knocks colostrum so bad in the new January issue?

Big Cat
12-03-2001, 07:02 AM
Why FLEX knocks it is a riddle, could be because Weider doesn't have a large enough stake in the market of course.

The reason I dislike it is because it will simply never be worth what you pay for it. Its a good immunity booster and excellent anti-oxydant, but you'll never get out of it what you pay for it, its simply too expensive to extract. You'll never see me wasting my money on it.

joe78
12-03-2001, 09:57 AM
Personally, I got nothing out of it. Probably because I took the recommended dosage. You might want to save your money on this one until they make a cheaper version.

little lats
12-03-2001, 11:11 AM
Didn't we just have this thread a month ago>>>>

fitnessman
12-03-2001, 03:47 PM
I read the studies about it. Sounded promising, so I bought the best. It was first milking, which made even more exspensive.


Powder to add to my post work out shakes, caps to take during the day.

Zip, zero, not one even barely noticable gain. Took it for 2 months.
Alot of stuff looks good on paper as this did, but alas more money I donated to supplements.

Since I have read even more studies on it. I have learned something since then. If you know a farmer, and trust that the cow has not been feed all kinds of chemicals, you can buy bovine colostrum right from him. A whole lot cheaper to get an effective dose also.

I feel most of the benefits are lost during proccessing of the colostrum on the market these days.

I raise beef with a friend of mine so I am considering it. I am getting a hard time about whether when I heat treat it if the benefits are lost again....

Big Cat
12-03-2001, 03:51 PM
hehe, I like your status ...

Woolmer
08-04-2008, 03:41 AM
Colostrum (http://www.nutrovita.com/store/colostrum.htm) is a unique food supplement, rich in a variety of biologically active proteins including immunoglobins. Colostrum is also known as beestings or first milk. It is the pre-milk fluid produced from the mother?s mammary glands during the first 24-48 hours after birth. Colostrum is the first "milk" given to a newborn calf by its mother, and contains many bioactive compounds not present in ordinary milk. It provides life-supporting immune and growth factors that insures the health and vitality of the newborn. It is so important that most infants would simply die without it. Colostrum (http://www.nutrovita.com/store/colostrum.htm) helps to Support immune system function, Combat bacteria & viruses, Improve skin & muscle rejuvenation,Support joint & cartilage function, Build muscle mass, Metabolize burn fat, Maintain healthy intestinal flora.

BRAVE-HEART
08-04-2008, 03:50 AM
my girlfriend is lactating and im a dirty bastard so i gave it a try, it taste like sugar ... you sure its not just a placebo effect ? casue i might have to get her preggers more often if it works

PenixBowties
10-20-2008, 05:10 PM
Save your money! You'd get better results from a couple quarts of raw milk every day. Digestion would be better all around too, even for those who are lactose intollerant.

Again, save your money.

grozz
12-14-2008, 12:45 AM
I was a competitive body builder in 2001 drug free and discovered colostrum through a natural body building site. I used it aggressivley for 3 months and gained 20 pounds of lean muscle and had amazing gains in strength and recoupe from my hard work outs. The stuff really works and is amazing for general health. I never had a cold or got sick at all over that time. I took several years off of body building but kept using the colostrum to keep up my health. I'm back working out again and have been using the colostrum for the last month while training 4 times a week and have put on 8 pounds LEAN muscle and have made amazing gains again, i swear by the stuff and have had several people take my advise and they are having the same results ot better... God bless you all. You will be thankful for trying this healty alternative to Steroids out you will not be sorry.. I use 1st milking bovine colostrum from the UFA or vetrinary clinic it's the purest form and has the highest immunoglobulins count. Good luck all

PaintPir
12-14-2008, 02:08 AM
Colostrum (http://www.nutrovita.com/store/colostrum.htm) is a unique food supplement, rich in a variety of biologically active proteins including immunoglobins. Colostrum is also known as beestings or first milk. It is the pre-milk fluid produced from the mother?s mammary glands during the first 24-48 hours after birth. Colostrum is the first "milk" given to a newborn calf by its mother, and contains many bioactive compounds not present in ordinary milk. It provides life-supporting immune and growth factors that insures the health and vitality of the newborn. It is so important that most infants would simply die without it. Colostrum (http://www.nutrovita.com/store/colostrum.htm) helps to Support immune system function, Combat bacteria & viruses, Improve skin & muscle rejuvenation,Support joint & cartilage function, Build muscle mass, Metabolize burn fat, Maintain healthy intestinal flora.

strong 7 year bump

Antz1980
12-14-2008, 02:16 AM
I was a competitive body builder in 2001 drug free and discovered colostrum through a natural body building site. I used it aggressivley for 3 months and gained 20 pounds of lean muscle and had amazing gains in strength and recoupe from my hard work outs. The stuff really works and is amazing for general health. I never had a cold or got sick at all over that time. I took several years off of body building but kept using the colostrum to keep up my health. I'm back working out again and have been using the colostrum for the last month while training 4 times a week and have put on 8 pounds LEAN muscle and have made amazing gains again, i swear by the stuff and have had several people take my advise and they are having the same results ot better... God bless you all. You will be thankful for trying this healty alternative to Steroids out you will not be sorry.. I use 1st milking bovine colostrum from the UFA or vetrinary clinic it's the purest form and has the highest immunoglobulins count. Good luck all


Hey Grozz

Did u use it year round (Off season and while dieting)

Where you using any other products ie: Creatine, Protein powder etc?

I have heard the same, I may look into this further.

grozz
12-14-2008, 04:32 AM
I used it for three months prior to getting ready for canadian bodybuilding championships in 2001. I was looking for a natural alternative to steroids. It is amazing stuff. Make sure you use the vet stuff you can buy it through the farm supply stores. I supplemented it with my protein shakes after work outs and before bed and on off days as a mid day snack. i'm currently taking 4 table spoons twice a day.. you may use more... You will find that it helps you recoupe from work outs amazingly quick and very quick muscle gains and strength gains as well. My one buddy put on 13 pounds lean muscle in 3 weeks it freaked him out as he was a previous steriod user and could not believe that anything else would work so well. I started into the weights again about a month ago and started using the colostrum and ceatine as well as protein shakes 8 pounds of muscle gain in that time and very noticeable changes .. Good luck let me know how it works fo you. no side effects from colostrum unless you are lactose intolrent then you may have some issues..

skyestrong
09-10-2009, 08:20 AM
100% sterile, liquid bovine colostrum, processed without heat to retain the full complement of protein, growth hormones and antibodies, contains no drugs or banned substances.

When colostrum is dried to make the powder or capsule form that most folks use, it is denatured - that is, the non-steroidal anabolic qualities are pasteurized out.

There is now a liquid version that is sterile, but not pasteurized. And thanks to its unique processing, it's safe and preservative-free.

The company has sourced 100% natural bovine colostrum from USDA Grade A dairies - and with its unique process, can deliver a complete, preservative-free alternative to build muscle mass and increase endurance - even when folks lift at the highest stress levels.

Right now, they are only selling in the animal market - but a lot of people are using the product and getting some very cool results.

Check it out. It's called Re-Borne, and you can read more about it at re-borne-equine.com.

skyestrong

jerrycarroll
01-18-2010, 09:50 PM
100% sterile, liquid bovine colostrum, processed without heat to retain the full complement of protein, growth hormones and antibodies, contains no drugs or banned substances.

When colostrum is dried to make the powder or capsule form that most folks use, it is denatured - that is, the non-steroidal anabolic qualities are pasteurized out.

There is now a liquid version that is sterile, but not pasteurized. And thanks to its unique processing, it's safe and preservative-free.

The company has sourced 100% natural bovine colostrum from USDA Grade A dairies - and with its unique process, can deliver a complete, preservative-free alternative to build muscle mass and increase endurance - even when folks lift at the highest stress levels.

Right now, they are only selling in the animal market - but a lot of people are using the product and getting some very cool results.

Check it out. It's called Re-Borne, and you can read more about it at re-borne-equine.com.

skyestrong

sounds like it has potential. I may do this and report my finding if this forum will allow that. one bottle can last up to 6 months refrigerated and it should last 3 months. if a horse needs only 10-20ml daily, I am sure we need half that!

GTac01
01-18-2010, 11:00 PM
I was a competitive body builder in 2001 drug free and discovered colostrum through a natural body building site. I used it aggressivley for 3 months and gained 20 pounds of lean muscle and had amazing gains in strength and recoupe from my hard work outs. The stuff really works and is amazing for general health. I never had a cold or got sick at all over that time. I took several years off of body building but kept using the colostrum to keep up my health. I'm back working out again and have been using the colostrum for the last month while training 4 times a week and have put on 8 pounds LEAN muscle and have made amazing gains again, i swear by the stuff and have had several people take my advise and they are having the same results ot better... God bless you all. You will be thankful for trying this healty alternative to Steroids out you will not be sorry.. I use 1st milking bovine colostrum from the UFA or vetrinary clinic it's the purest form and has the highest immunoglobulins count. Good luck all

What dosing do you recommend for me at 190lb 6ft 1? Thanks!

SteriodGuru
05-07-2010, 11:27 PM
I've read good things about it colostrum in 3 different magazines. I'm considering buying some, but before I do, I was wondering what you all think about it. Has anyone tried it? Does it help your gains at all or is it just another useless supplement hyped up by muscle magazines?

Why do Pro-BodyBuilders take Colostrum;
Because Bovine Colostrum contains: HGH like Growth Hormone IGF-1 & Immune Factors
Bovine Colostrum: Can basically be broken down into (4) four major categories:
(1)Growth Factors:Growth hormone (GH), Insulin-like Growth Factor-I and II (IGF-1 and IGF-II),
(2)Epithelial Growth Factor (EgF),
(3)Fibroblast Growth Factor (FgF), Platelet-derived Growth Factor (PDGF),
(4)Transforming Growth Factors A & B (TgA and B).

You can buy 100% Pure Whole Bovine Colostrum powder in a 2.2POUNDS container for $65 bucks from pharmatechlabs.net

Garyboy
05-08-2010, 04:00 PM
100% sterile, liquid bovine colostrum, processed without heat to retain the full complement of protein, growth hormones and antibodies, contains no drugs or banned substances.

When colostrum is dried to make the powder or capsule form that most folks use, it is denatured - that is, the non-steroidal anabolic qualities are pasteurized out.

There is now a liquid version that is sterile, but not pasteurized. And thanks to its unique processing, it's safe and preservative-free.

The company has sourced 100% natural bovine colostrum from USDA Grade A dairies - and with its unique process, can deliver a complete, preservative-free alternative to build muscle mass and increase endurance - even when folks lift at the highest stress levels.

Right now, they are only selling in the animal market - but a lot of people are using the product and getting some very cool results.

Check it out. It's called Re-Borne, and you can read more about it at re-borne-equine.com.

skyestrong

Since it's meant for horses, what is the suggested dose for us? Thanks. Sounds very promising.

Jahcuree
05-08-2010, 09:05 PM
I used colostrum for about 5 weeks (recommended dosage) and got nothing out of it. I keep using it for the immune system boost but dont hope to get much out of it.

Robboe
05-10-2010, 10:32 AM
I used colostrum for about 5 weeks (recommended dosage) and got nothing out of it. I keep using it for the immune system boost but dont hope to get much out of it.

I think you need someone to tell you to save your cash. Want me to do it?

SteriodGuru
05-10-2010, 11:51 AM
Yeah, all the stuff with it about the immune system is great, and I would like to read more about it, and the effects of it on the IgG, A,E, etc.

Now, as far as bodybuilding goes, I am not sure what the highest amount they have used is??

Now for $$$ reasons, suppose you take in 1tsp which is usually 2.5g of Colostrum.

Now, $22.49 for a 30serv bottle is about in the normal range.

Say 10g of Colostrum is enough to help bodybuilders.

That puts you at 7.5 days, and $22.49

So a months supply would run you roughly $93.00 at 10g per day.

If studies show 30g is what it takes...... SHELL OUT $279.00 for a months supply.

I don't know if Colostrum will go down in price, but my guess is if studies prove more and more, the price will JUMP.

fit

YOU NEED A MIN OF 60GRMS A DAY TO GET
· Muscle Growth (EgF), Growth Factors:
Growth hormone (GH), Insulin-like growth factor-I and II (IGF-1 and IGF-II), Epithelial growth factor (EgF),Fibroblast growth factor (FgF), Platelet-derived growth factor (PDGF),Transforming growth factors A & B (TgA and B).

BUY 4.4 LBS 2,000GRMS of 100% PURE WHOLE BOVINE COLOSTRUM POWDER FROM
PHARMATECHLABS.NET $130.00
THATS ENOUGH FOR OVER 60GRMS PER DAY

jerrycarroll
07-14-2010, 12:32 AM
YOU NEED A MIN OF 60GRMS A DAY TO GET
· Muscle Growth (EgF), Growth Factors:
Growth hormone (GH), Insulin-like growth factor-I and II (IGF-1 and IGF-II), Epithelial growth factor (EgF),Fibroblast growth factor (FgF), Platelet-derived growth factor (PDGF),Transforming growth factors A & B (TgA and B).

BUY 4.4 LBS 2,000GRMS of 100% PURE WHOLE BOVINE COLOSTRUM POWDER FROM
PHARMATECHLABS.NET $130.00
THATS ENOUGH FOR OVER 60GRMS PER DAY
jury is still out on this. would rather spend the moeny on stuff i KNOW works.

bigjimb
07-14-2010, 05:17 AM
We used to give colostrum to lambs, they would pack on weight real fast with it, but that was colostrum from sheep. sounds random but i have a point... i think the reason you need such high doses is because you are using colostrum from a bovine source, as such it is genetically different, to be effective colostrum needs to come from the same species, ie in our case humans. this will never happen, we can't milk women (imagine that lol ;)) but you guys who have been sucking on your pregnant partners nips really have got the right idea....!

Just a thought

RossErstling
02-04-2011, 05:57 PM
We used to give colostrum to lambs, they would pack on weight real fast with it, but that was colostrum from sheep. sounds random but i have a point... i think the reason you need such high doses is because you are using colostrum from a bovine source, as such it is genetically different, to be effective colostrum needs to come from the same species, ie in our case humans. this will never happen, we can't milk women (imagine that lol ;)) but you guys who have been sucking on your pregnant partners nips really have got the right idea....!

Just a thought

This stuff looks VERY interesting! Looking in to buying this stuff from a VET supplier!

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Controlled studies have shown that supplementation of the diet of calves with small daily doses of VitaPak–Grow resulted in a statistically significant improvement in lean body mass, disease incidence and survival. At the start of one study, 64% of the calves had a significant deficiency in circulating IgG levels (<1000mg/dl). No supplementary IgG preparations were given to these animals to rectify this deficiency.

At the end of the 21-week growing period, daily dietary supplementation of calves with VitaPak–Grow resulted in an average body weight of 475.9 lbs. compared to 446.8 lbs. for control animals, an average 29.1 lb. increase.

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Calves in the group receiving dietary supplementation with VitaPak–Grow gained an average of 381 lbs. compared with control calves, which gained an average of 349 lbs. Thus, calves receiving VitaPak had an average weight gain advantage of 31.9 lbs. per calf.

View Average Weight Increase Graph

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Garyboy
02-05-2011, 06:13 PM
This stuff looks VERY interesting! Looking in to buying this stuff from a VET supplier!

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Most growers today use significant quantities of drugs to ward off infection and improve production. VitaPak–Grow is a natural product proven to enhance the immune system, increasing resistance to bacterial and viral infections and to improve body mass development.

Controlled studies have shown that supplementation of the diet of calves with small daily doses of VitaPak–Grow resulted in a statistically significant improvement in lean body mass, disease incidence and survival. At the start of one study, 64% of the calves had a significant deficiency in circulating IgG levels (<1000mg/dl). No supplementary IgG preparations were given to these animals to rectify this deficiency.

At the end of the 21-week growing period, daily dietary supplementation of calves with VitaPak–Grow resulted in an average body weight of 475.9 lbs. compared to 446.8 lbs. for control animals, an average 29.1 lb. increase.

View Average Body Weight Graph

Calves in the group receiving dietary supplementation with VitaPak–Grow gained an average of 381 lbs. compared with control calves, which gained an average of 349 lbs. Thus, calves receiving VitaPak had an average weight gain advantage of 31.9 lbs. per calf.

View Average Weight Increase Graph

A field trial was performed to measure the medical treatment cost of calves which were on VitaPak–Grow and the control group which did not receive VitaPak–Grow. Results of that test may be viewed in the MED COST SAVINGS OVER CONTROLS graph by clicking the button below:

View Med Cost Savings Graph

VitaPak-Grow

How would you dose this, Ross? Thanks.

patrick4588
02-08-2011, 11:28 AM
just seems too expensive for most.

JJP53
05-03-2011, 05:57 PM
I've been doing some reasearch into colostrum and have heard nothing but good things

Jahcuree
05-03-2011, 06:16 PM
I've been doing some reasearch into colostrum and have heard nothing but good things

Strooong 2001 thread bump. PS Colostom isnt good for anything but immune response

DnalorB
04-04-2014, 12:32 PM
I used it for three months prior to getting ready for canadian bodybuilding championships in 2001. I was looking for a natural alternative to steroids. It is amazing stuff. Make sure you use the vet stuff you can buy it through the farm supply stores. I supplemented it with my protein shakes after work outs and before bed and on off days as a mid day snack. i'm currently taking 4 table spoons twice a day.. you may use more... You will find that it helps you recoupe from work outs amazingly quick and very quick muscle gains and strength gains as well. My one buddy put on 13 pounds lean muscle in 3 weeks it freaked him out as he was a previous steriod user and could not believe that anything else would work so well. I started into the weights again about a month ago and started using the colostrum and ceatine as well as protein shakes 8 pounds of muscle gain in that time and very noticeable changes .. Good luck let me know how it works fo you. no side effects from colostrum unless you are lactose intolrent then you may have some issues..

hi grozz,

i live in UK/Europe, how can i buy the colostrum supplement you used? any links or contact info to those products? do you still use it?

grozz, please contact me here, ASAP, please!: moringa82@yahoo.com

anybody else used it since ths post(2008)?

please

lucia316
04-04-2014, 01:24 PM
hi grozz,

i live in UK/Europe, how can i buy the colostrum supplement you used? any links or contact info to those products? do you still use it?

grozz, please contact me here, ASAP, please!: moringa82@yahoo.com

anybody else used it since ths post(2008)?

please

Ugh...strong 13 year old thread bump to ask a question of a guy that hasn't logged in in 3 months.

Lemme guess. You're new, want to cut and get massive at the same time and want to do it fast?

Read: http://examine.com/supplements/Colostrum/

TLDR? Save your money.

cumminslifter
04-04-2014, 01:32 PM
Ugh...strong 13 year old thread bump to ask a question of a guy that hasn't logged in in 3 months.

Lemme guess. You're new, want to cut and get massive at the same time and want to do it fast?

Read: http://examine.com/supplements/Colostrum/

TLDR? Save your money.http://replygif.net/thumbnail/95.gif