Best Overall Weight Gainer?

[chuatzekai]

Oh my, I just realised you are a 19 yr old kid. Can't believe I wasted so much time on you. Hey boy, please end and stop the interruption to others discussing about this topic.

[JamesD3]

Oh my, I just realised you are a 19 yr old kid. Can't believe I wasted so much time on you. Hey boy, please end and stop the interruption to others discussing about this topic.

Just cause a 19 year old ADULT owned you doesn't mean you gotta pick on the age. Hell, I'd be happier to be 19 than 29. Just shows your 29 year old immature attitude trying to bring up a new diss on me...which you can't and failed.

Either way, I will always win. :)

Thank you.

[chuatzekai]

Just cause a 19 year old ADULT owned you doesn't mean you gotta pick on the age. Hell, I'd be happier to be 19 than 29. Just shows your 29 year old immature attitude trying to bring up a new diss on me...which you can't and failed.

Either way, I will always win. :)

Thank you.

Haha, kids always like to win indeed, ok, just to make you happy.

[Chocobananas]

Haha, kids always like to win indeed, ok, just to make you happy.

Id like to take the time to say shut the hell up, learn english, and take your bitching elsewhere. Im trying to get useful information from this thread and this entire page is full of your whining. Take it elsewhere. /rant

[wolfemd]

Guys i have a question. I'm 6'1" and weigh 175lbs. Im trying to bulk up so im thinking about buying some weight gainer, but at the same time i don't want to lose the the definition that i have already built up. Any suggestions? Should i get the weight gainer and just do add some light weight high rep workout days or what?

[FA702]

Bionic Edge Mass Builder is so clean and uses brown rice sweet potatoes and oats as a carb source low in fat and sugar

[Prominia]

I used both Cytogainer and BSN Truemass I liked cytogainer better because its cheaper gained more weight from it. Also BSN Truemass gave me the ****s.

[tnsfinest]

Universal Real Gains chocolate flavor. Tastes good and doesn't feel heavy on the stomach. I'll definitely buy another tub when my current one is empty

[FA702]

hdt solid gains looks great but its 5 scoops per serving

[Idontlikeit]

just got my tub of Real Gain strawberry it taste pretty good but the smell awesome (no homo) will check back in a month..

[Lemaster25]

I went through two 12lb bags of ON's Serious Mass and I went from 155 - 185 in 2 months. Thats good for me, considering I've always had problems gaining weight.

[Johnnyb123]

MHP's UP YOUR MASS hands down in my opinion

[ak47m203]

I went through two 12lb bags of ON's Serious Mass and I went from 155 - 185 in 2 months. Thats good for me, considering I've always had problems gaining weight.


this is huge but how big is one serving(334grams) that's 50grams protein. Nitro core is 48grams 24grams of protein. So if use 2 servings of nitro core that will be the same with serious mass. but huge gains in you.

[Methadrol]

taste is a big thing for me so my vote goes to cytogainer

[Idontlikeit]

I went through two 12lb bags of ON's Serious Mass and I went from 155 - 185 in 2 months. Thats good for me, considering I've always had problems gaining weight.

u serious? can you tell me your routine? like how much you drink and did you work out..how often?

[Austin109]

the real question is was it entirely lean mass?

[Lemaster25]

I work out Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Mondays and Fridays work outs are the same. I took 1.5 servings a day. 1/2 serving when I woke up and another 1/2 serving about 2 hours after lunch, last serving before I went to bed. On days I worked out it was the same except I didn't take the one after lunch I waited till after I worked out then I took it.

Monday and Friday

Flat bench Press - 1x10, 1x8, 1x6, 1x4, 1x2 - do the set of 10 then go up 10lbs every set after.

after that, do another 3x15 with a light weight....like 155 for me.

Squats - 3x10 - 225lbs
Seated curls - 3x10 - 80lbs
one handed db curls - 3x25 each hand - light weigth - 20lb db's
one handed db reverse curls - 3x25 each hand - with light weight - 20lb db's
dips using bench and chair - 1x40 , 1x60, 1x80
back rows - 3x10 - 80lb db
abs - 4x25 crunches, 4x25 leg lifts, 4x25 scissors

Wednesday

db shoulder raises - 3x10 - 30lb db - out front and to the side
db lunges - 3x15 - 30lb db
Standing bb curls - 3x10 - 80lbs
leg curls - 3x20 - 90lbs
shoulder shrugs - 3x20 - 160lbs bb
db flys - 1x 40, 1x50, 1x60 - 30lb db
abs - 4x25 cruches, 4x25 leg lifts, 4x25 scissors

do that routine for 2 weeks then for the next 2 weeks go less reps and heavier weight. Every 2 weeks I either increase weight or reps.

This routine is working pretty good for me, I started out having problems benching 185lbx5 and now I'm benching 235lbx8

[Lemaster25]

the real question is was it entirely lean mass?

It wasn't entirely lean mass but any fat that was picked up was good fat and can be turned to muscle no problem.

[DoWork08]

Lean Body Mass 60 by Labrada

16 servings per container
per serving....
610 calories
77g carbs
60g protien
5g of Crealean? Creatine
Blend of 6 Proteins
and loaded w/ BCAAs

i took it and loved it....I went from 155lbs to 180lbs in like 3 months

take a look!

[SABREHAWK]

I like NLarge from ProLab

[FA702]

mutant mass looks good but its expensive

[thauncle]

I hear alot of people talk about cytogainer would cytogainer be effective for people not already big to start with.i have yet to see anyone under 160 use this stuff.

[Hudacris]

It wasn't entirely lean mass but any fat that was picked up was good fat and can be turned to muscle no problem.

LMAO

[shookers]

LMAO

I cant stop laughing

[krull1015]

I'm on my second container of Real Gains and like it for the same reasons as previously listed.
Calorie/Carbs/Protein/Fat and Sugar content
Good Product for the money...

[Rayman9102]

I'm on my second container of Real Gains and like it for the same reasons as previously listed.
Calorie/Carbs/Protein/Fat and Sugar content
Good Product for the money...

That **** is REAAALL GOOD boosted me up some pounds quickly from 174.8 and then in like 3 n half weeks 181.8lbs good stuff.

[Hudacris]

That **** is REAAALL GOOD boosted me up some pounds quickly from 174.8 and then in like 3 n half weeks 181.8lbs good stuff.

I just checked Fedex and will be getting my Real Gains today, hopefully this will get me over the "I can't get over 170 lbs" hump

[Lemaster25]

LMAO

I'm glad you got a kick out of that

[beakerfunk]

Ultimate Nutrition Muscle Juice 2544

I am an exreamly hard gainer and have tried lots of things, but taking 1 or 2 shakes a day of muscle juice has worked wonders for me. 55g of protien and 990 calories have taken my body to a new level. Its hard to get enough calories sometimes for me and this has really helped. I have only been on this for 2 weeks and have gained around 3-4 pounds. Loving it!

[kcinnitram91]

That **** is REAAALL GOOD boosted me up some pounds quickly from 174.8 and then in like 3 n half weeks 181.8lbs good stuff.

The real gains effect. I love the stuff.

[purts]

One last shake of Muscle Juice and I'm going back to Real Gains (which I prefered). Can't wait!

[ddogg]

I use Quickmass Seen Good gains so far, but i haven't tried anything else

[thedust]

I just started some new stuff I just found

SMS
Size Mass Strength

From California Nutrition Corner

2 huge a** scoops
but

180g carb
12g glutamine
104g protein
2400 calories

:)

[bullmuscle]

I use ABB's Extream XXL but then again im a powerlifter not a bb. I need the cal.

[SupaFly78]

I`m not goin to say any powders at all, to embrace any companys ego`s......

I would have to say "Taro" it is the best keep secret from the world.Us Maori`s/Islanders are some of the biggest people in the world, of got cousins that are 7ft plus 300pounds and pack with muscle......

No need for chemicals in the body!

Natural only!!!!!

Try eating it!

As the islanders say it`s a natural steroid!!!!!

well where do you buy taro?

[DTSwole]

well where do you buy taro?


lol x2

[Prophetic~Poet]

I just started some new stuff I just found

SMS
Size Mass Strength

From California Nutrition Corner

2 huge a** scoops
but

180g carb
12g glutamine
104g protein
2400 calories

:)

is that healthy....?

i'm about to switch to ON Serious MASS....

[skinny ee]

is that healthy....?

i'm about to switch to ON Serious MASS....
same here iam about to make a change.

[Chocobananas]

I`m not goin to say any powders at all, to embrace any companys ego`s......

I would have to say "Taro" it is the best keep secret from the world.Us Maori`s/Islanders are some of the biggest people in the world, of got cousins that are 7ft plus 300pounds and pack with muscle......

No need for chemicals in the body!

Natural only!!!!!

Try eating it!

As the islanders say it`s a natural steroid!!!!!

Hmmm with 9 posts it really sounds like an ad but theres no link for purchase lol. Im gonna go google this stuff tho.

[Chocobananas]

Ok so heres what i found out. Its toxic when raw and its full of vitamins and minerals. Its no secret as it is used as a staple in many many cultures. Doubt that it is a "natural steroid". Any1 got more info?

[Iverson7]

I`m not goin to say any powders at all, to embrace any companys ego`s......

I would have to say "Taro" it is the best keep secret from the world.Us Maori`s/Islanders are some of the biggest people in the world, of got cousins that are 7ft plus 300pounds and pack with muscle......

No need for chemicals in the body!

Natural only!!!!!

Try eating it!

As the islanders say it`s a natural steroid!!!!!
Alot of my poly mates swear by this stuff...although it tastes terrible.

[widow-maker]

does anyone have any azn friends or whatever who goto those nammer stores or something that might have this taro??

and is taro called poi?

http://www.poico.com/artman/publish/article_4.php

seems like its that gray sludge that contained "all the nutrients and minerals the body needs" in the matrix..



Taro was first brought to Hawaii by the Polynesians in double-hulled sailing canoes, perhaps as long ago as 450 A.D. Taro (colocascia esculenta) is a Samoan word. The traditional Hawaiian name is “kalo.” Whatever you call it, this perennial herb that we use to make poi is one of the oldest cultivated crops.

[GPx]

Sounds to me like "Real Gains" is tops on this forum.

[widow-maker]

I just started some new stuff I just found

SMS
Size Mass Strength

From California Nutrition Corner

2 huge a** scoops
but

180g carb
12g glutamine
104g protein
2400 calories

:)

interesting......

how big is the scooper?? cause i got some muscle milk again, and the scooper for this isnt exactly small, but with two scoops of this apparently you only get 32g of protein per the (serving size: 2 scoops) on the label..

[GPx]

Just put in my order of Real Gains, excited to see some results. :D

[yeojdub]

I hear alot of people talk about cytogainer would cytogainer be effective for people not already big to start with.i have yet to see anyone under 160 use this stuff.

I started at 160, up to 167 after a few weeks. Can't say something else wouldn't work better though cause it's all I've tried.

[Iverson7]

Agreed with Real Gains. Put on 6kg in 3 months

[pongd]

currently using ultimate nutrition muscle juice and although i put on a few pounds in a couple weeks its way too sweet.

[Rayman9102]

The real gains effect. I love the stuff.


Hell ya i just got paid and im gonna be placing another order in. I just gotta get my omegas str8 now.

[Blue Blazer]

currently using ultimate nutrition muscle juice and although i put on a few pounds in a couple weeks its way too sweet.

Don't make the same mistake I did, I took 2 full servings a day of muscle juice, I was getting 2000 calories from fukking powder, and about 2500-3000 from food, let me tell you from personal experience that this is not the way to get good gains

IMO, I think 1000 cals may just be too much for the body to take it at once, unless it was food because it isn't ''artificial'' like powders...

Just my 0.02 cents

[KazuyaMishima]

muscle juice seems quiet popular but doesnt it have WAY too much sugar ? o.O the reason i hadnt got it yet

[Rayman9102]

I got a question about animal cuts my recant take is. Where would i fit cuts in?

Animal Pak
M Stak
Animal Pump
Torrent

I have a question though can i take real gains though i want to cut up? Cuz real gains will help me with my calories and carbs i need and protein. Only time i take real gains is an hour b4 my workout with regular oatmeal and b4 i hit the bed i then stak it with glutamine. But just wondering can i take it with animal cuts and gain lean mass?

[GPx]

Don't make the same mistake I did, I took 2 full servings a day of muscle juice, I was getting 2000 calories from fukking powder, and about 2500-3000 from food, let me tell you from personal experience that this is not the way to get good gains

IMO, I think 1000 cals may just be too much for the body to take it at once, unless it was food because it isn't ''artificial'' like powders...

Just my 0.02 cents

What happened? Gain alot of unhealthy weight?

[seanw21]

muscle juice seems quiet popular but doesnt it have WAY too much sugar ? o.O the reason i hadnt got it yet

Yeah it does. Personally I think making your own high calorie shake is the best way to go. If I HAD to pick one to buy I liked cytosports caramel swirl shake. But it is just cheaper and better to just make your own.

[mililani00]

poi is ground up taro. i live in hawaii haha foodland,safeway,longs all have poi. poi with sugar wit surgar is great!!!!

[pongd]

Don't make the same mistake I did, I took 2 full servings a day of muscle juice, I was getting 2000 calories from fukking powder, and about 2500-3000 from food, let me tell you from personal experience that this is not the way to get good gains

IMO, I think 1000 cals may just be too much for the body to take it at once, unless it was food because it isn't ''artificial'' like powders...

Just my 0.02 cents


lol yeah i wouldnt even want to take it twice a day. the sugar content is really bugging me now...it makes me feel like im gaining fat and not mass. i dont mind gaining both but i just hope its not all fat. i actually only take it 2 out of every 3 days

seems like everyones in love with real gains

[ChristmasFnatic]

Anyone tried Dymatize High Protein Mega Gainer?

Or should I just stick with Real Gains?

[beakerfunk]

Muscle Juice has 60g of sugar per 990 calories (4 scoops) Gatorade has 56g of sugar in a 32oz bottle. They are pretty similar. For me, being a hard gainer, I think 60g of sugar per 1000 calories isn't that bad and I have not got fat at all, I'm on my second 10 pound tub. Just a comparison. I suppose some people are afftected by the sugar more than others just remember that its just like drinking a gatorade.

Peace!!!!

[bignpisst]

Im just curious if any of you guys have tried Goliath yet ? http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/syn/goliath.html

[GPx]

Having my first serving of strawberry Real Gains right now, flavor isn't bad at all. :D

Are you guys mixing it with milk or water?

[Rayman9102]

Having my first serving of strawberry Real Gains right now, flavor isn't bad at all. :D

Are you guys mixing it with milk or water?

When i took Real gains i mixed it with water b4 i workout like an hour n i took it b4 i go to bed with SKIM MILK. But me i gain weight pretty damn fast. For you idk you could probably mix it with WHOLE MILK.

[tbo27]

Ok I'm done trying the gainers for a while.

I started drinking a gallon of milk a day last week after I read Rippetoe's 'Starting Strength' and started his program. And I've already seen some higher numbers on the scale.

[CptClean]

I've been taking Cytogainer (almost through my first tub) and I haven't noticed anything substantial but I do feel pretty good the next day after a workout when I drink it. Much better then before - that would be the glutamine. So it saves me from buying another product.

I eat about 3500 calories a day and went from 167-170 in 2 weeks which is decent but considering that I'm 6'4 it doesn't seem like anything special.

I'm going to go with either Real Gains or Muscle juice, I'm not entirely sure yet. They both seem to be quite popular.

[SupaFly78]

Ok I'm done trying the gainers for a while.

I started drinking a gallon of milk a day last week after I read Rippetoe's 'Starting Strength' and started his program. And I've already seen some higher numbers on the scale.

do you realize how unhealthy it is to drink an entire gallon of milk per day.....

[Rayman9102]

I've been taking Cytogainer (almost through my first tub) and I haven't noticed anything substantial but I do feel pretty good the next day after a workout when I drink it. Much better then before - that would be the glutamine. So it saves me from buying another product.

I eat about 3500 calories a day and went from 167-170 in 2 weeks which is decent but considering that I'm 6'4 it doesn't seem like anything special.

I'm going to go with either Real Gains or Muscle juice, I'm not entirely sure yet. They both seem to be quite popular.


MY Answer to this would be it depends on your goals. Now that you gained a little more weight you need to be taking a little bit more then 3500 calories to boost your weight again. Thing about Real gains is its ingrediants their solid and the calories are not too much calories, their just right. Also the carbs on real gains is 82 i think which is perfect. As for Muscle juice it depends on the person. If you need to load up on 4000 calories a day then i would choose muscle juice cuz it got 900 calories i think per scoop if im correct. It really depends on you though. When i took real gains i messed up a little and it boosted my weight but added some serius ass bodyfat to me. Now im tryin to cut down which sucks ass, how i took it was i took it first thing in the morning, an hour b4 working out, and b4 i went to bed. But if i take it now ill only take it b4 i work out and take Casien protein b4 i go to bed. Depends on you bro.Hope this helped.

[Rayman9102]

do you realize how unhealthy it is to drink an entire gallon of milk per day.....

Lol man the pricing is sick 5 dollars a gallon. Either gas or milk...

[CptClean]

MY Answer to this would be it depends on your goals. Now that you gained a little more weight you need to be taking a little bit more then 3500 calories to boost your weight again. Thing about Real gains is its ingrediants their solid and the calories are not too much calories, their just right. Also the carbs on real gains is 82 i think which is perfect. As for Muscle juice it depends on the person. If you need to load up on 4000 calories a day then i would choose muscle juice cuz it got 900 calories i think per scoop if im correct. It really depends on you though. When i took real gains i messed up a little and it boosted my weight but added some serius ass bodyfat to me. Now im tryin to cut down which sucks ass, how i took it was i took it first thing in the morning, an hour b4 working out, and b4 i went to bed. But if i take it now ill only take it b4 i work out and take Casien protein b4 i go to bed. Depends on you bro.Hope this helped.

I'm a really, really hard gainer. I think I'm going to go with Real Gains though, thanks for the advice! It seems like a more solid product that will keep the weight on...

[thedrivenone]

MY Answer to this would be it depends on your goals. Now that you gained a little more weight you need to be taking a little bit more then 3500 calories to boost your weight again. Thing about Real gains is its ingrediants their solid and the calories are not too much calories, their just right. Also the carbs on real gains is 82 i think which is perfect. As for Muscle juice it depends on the person. If you need to load up on 4000 calories a day then i would choose muscle juice cuz it got 900 calories i think per scoop if im correct. It really depends on you though. When i took real gains i messed up a little and it boosted my weight but added some serius ass bodyfat to me. Now im tryin to cut down which sucks ass, how i took it was i took it first thing in the morning, an hour b4 working out, and b4 i went to bed. But if i take it now ill only take it b4 i work out and take Casien protein b4 i go to bed. Depends on you bro.Hope this helped.

I take Real Gains, I'm an endo, I would never take it before bed. I take in some form of casein protein, 2 glasses of milk- 24g carbs-- before bed. But wouldn't take a real gains shake, or did you just split it up?

I generally took it as my 2nd meal after WO. I've put a lot of weight on thus far under some Universal products.

150, 13.4% BF to 178.5, 15.2 % BF. 20lbs of fat initially, now 26.6lbs of fat. Not happy with fat, but i was just skin & fat before, and i couldnt take my shirt off. im bulking for 4 more weeks, i think i might hit 16%, but then after that i'm cutting, gonna try to use Cuts for the 3 weeks before College begins.

[kcinnitram91]

I take Real Gains, I'm an endo, I would never take it before bed. I take in some form of casein protein, 2 glasses of milk- 24g carbs-- before bed. But wouldn't take a real gains shake, or did you just split it up?

I generally took it as my 2nd meal after WO. I've put a lot of weight on thus far under some Universal products.

150, 13.4% BF to 178.5, 15.2 % BF. 20lbs of fat initially, now 26.6lbs of fat. Not happy with fat, but i was just skin & fat before, and i couldnt take my shirt off. im bulking for 4 more weeks, i think i might hit 16%, but then after that i'm cutting, gonna try to use Cuts for the 3 weeks before College begins.

Sometimes you have to put on a little bit a bodyfat to get the mass your looking for. Sounds to me like you had a real successful bulk. I'm glad real gains helped you out.

[GPx]

MY Answer to this would be it depends on your goals. Now that you gained a little more weight you need to be taking a little bit more then 3500 calories to boost your weight again. Thing about Real gains is its ingrediants their solid and the calories are not too much calories, their just right. Also the carbs on real gains is 82 i think which is perfect. As for Muscle juice it depends on the person. If you need to load up on 4000 calories a day then i would choose muscle juice cuz it got 900 calories i think per scoop if im correct. It really depends on you though. When i took real gains i messed up a little and it boosted my weight but added some serius ass bodyfat to me. Now im tryin to cut down which sucks ass, how i took it was i took it first thing in the morning, an hour b4 working out, and b4 i went to bed. But if i take it now ill only take it b4 i work out and take Casien protein b4 i go to bed. Depends on you bro.Hope this helped.

Bro you need some grammar help, I didn't understand half of what you said.

[Rayman9102]

Bro you need some grammar help, I didn't understand half of what you said.

Lol i just dont care lol i just write without commas and such. Only periods. I'll use commas here and their.

[Rayman9102]

I take Real Gains, I'm an endo, I would never take it before bed. I take in some form of casein protein, 2 glasses of milk- 24g carbs-- before bed. But wouldn't take a real gains shake, or did you just split it up?

I generally took it as my 2nd meal after WO. I've put a lot of weight on thus far under some Universal products.

150, 13.4% BF to 178.5, 15.2 % BF. 20lbs of fat initially, now 26.6lbs of fat. Not happy with fat, but i was just skin & fat before, and i couldnt take my shirt off. im bulking for 4 more weeks, i think i might hit 16%, but then after that i'm cutting, gonna try to use Cuts for the 3 weeks before College begins.

Split it up what do you mean? If you mean like instead of taking one hole scoop, you take half a scoop? Cuz lol i took a hole scoop. I just started taking casien. And to comment on what you said about bodyfat 13.4-15.2 thats great its weird, cuz when i took real gains i went from 15% bodyfat to 17!!!! AND IT SUCKS ASS!!! Now i made a big mistake and im gonna lean down to 10% bodyfat and go back to bulkin up from their. Ima try to stay 10% if its possible. Do you know much about cutting? Whats the fastest way to get rid of the fat you dont need, cuz i wanna get to 10% b4 school starts which is in about 3 weeks! If anyone knows alot about cutting please tell me. Oh and let me just say something new im now starting to take regular whey protein with egg whites. And its great. You can do it to your gainer shake as well. Egg whites will add some serious ass protein to it.

[SupaFly78]

Bro you need some grammar help, I didn't understand half of what you said.

that's strange because I read his post and understood it perfectly

[Mattxj]

You guys ever tried Mass Meal by Ergopharm? How's the taste?

[Tallbill]

Don't make the same mistake I did, I took 2 full servings a day of muscle juice, I was getting 2000 calories from fukking powder, and about 2500-3000 from food, let me tell you from personal experience that this is not the way to get good gains

IMO, I think 1000 cals may just be too much for the body to take it at once, unless it was food because it isn't ''artificial'' like powders...

Just my 0.02 cents


I get up to 1800 calories in a day from powder. Working fine for me.

[Blue Blazer]

I get up to 1800 calories in a day from powder. Working fine for me.

Difference is, you are 246lbs, on the bulk you're probobly getting in a nice 5 to 6k a day

Even then I'd try to stick with food

[fromal]

im 19, 6 ft , 165 lbs.

im trying to put on muscle/weight.
currently im just eating a lot (roughly 2000-2500 cals a day including muscle milk), taking muscle milk 2-3 times a day, nano vapor before workout and cell tech hardcore after workout.

would you guys recommend replacing muscle milk or cytogainer to get more calories in?

[tsdrew]

Universal Real Gains in Chocolate

1.Great taste
2.Mixes well in shaker bottle
3.MCT's and Flax
4.Over 50 grams of protein in a serving
5.Less than 100 grams of carbs in a serving
6.Over 600 calories per serving

So, if my current diet isn't that great, would this be a good substitute, or enough to gain enough weight to build some muscle?

I'm really skinny, I need to gain some weight to build muscle.

[DTSwole]

I got a question about animal cuts my recant take is. Where would i fit cuts in?

Animal Pak
M Stak
Animal Pump
Torrent

I have a question though can i take real gains though i want to cut up? Cuz real gains will help me with my calories and carbs i need and protein. Only time i take real gains is an hour b4 my workout with regular oatmeal and b4 i hit the bed i then stak it with glutamine. But just wondering can i take it with animal cuts and gain lean mass?

mmm I say stick to a whey isolate bro- unless your maintance is real high for some reason

[DTSwole]

So, if my current diet isn't that great, would this be a good substitute, or enough to gain enough weight to build some muscle?

I'm really skinny, I need to gain some weight to build muscle.


substitute for what? diet? nahh bro..
eat as much as you possibly can all day long- bout 7 meals made up of healthy foods such as tuna, chicken, rice, pasta, beef etc., - take a whey shake PWO, and fit in a 1/2 serving of real gains between two meals. that is it. thats the only supps. you should take unless you take an MV then that is perfectly fine

[BlakeF]

I used muscle juice chocolate and it tastes pretty good its the only flavour id go with. I was taking 4 scoops twice a day and eating healthy high protein etc, doing so I was gaining 2.5 pounds a week going through one of those huge bins of protein every one and a half to two weeks. Im ectomorph with super high metabolism so i need to get loads of calories in, once i stopped taking it I began losing weight because my body needs the extra calories to maintain a higher weight. I prefered it over quik mass and I havent tried cytogainer but i think im going to try that next.

[pongd]

I used muscle juice chocolate and it tastes pretty good its the only flavour id go with. I was taking 4 scoops twice a day and eating healthy high protein etc, doing so I was gaining 2.5 pounds a week going through one of those huge bins of protein every one and a half to two weeks. Im ectomorph with super high metabolism so i need to get loads of calories in, once i stopped taking it I began losing weight because my body needs the extra calories to maintain a higher weight. I prefered it over quik mass and I havent tried cytogainer but i think im going to try that next.


2 servings of muscle juice a day? how many calories were you taking in each day?

[tbo27]

do you realize how unhealthy it is to drink an entire gallon of milk per day.....

Nope. How unhealthy is it? :/


Lol man the pricing is sick 5 dollars a gallon. Either gas or milk...

I know.. it's ridiculous. Luckily I work at a grocery store.. and when It's within 3 days of 'sell by', we mark it down to a buck. A buck for 3000 calories a day? Worth it to me... :D

[tsdrew]

substitute for what? diet? nahh bro..
eat as much as you possibly can all day long- bout 7 meals made up of healthy foods such as tuna, chicken, rice, pasta, beef etc., - take a whey shake PWO, and fit in a 1/2 serving of real gains between two meals. that is it. thats the only supps. you should take unless you take an MV then that is perfectly fine

Right, my current diet is horrible, as I still live with my parents and we never have anything in the house. I'm thinking I should just buy supllements, like enough that could replace those 7 meals a day if I only have 3 real meals.

[GPx]

Right, my current diet is horrible, as I still live with my parents and we never have anything in the house. I'm thinking I should just buy supllements, like enough that could replace those 7 meals a day if I only have 3 real meals.

Supplements won't replace everything you get from good foods.

Why not tell your parents to buy you a few healthy foods from the grocery store?

[ibrahimsi]

Right, my current diet is horrible, as I still live with my parents and we never have anything in the house. I'm thinking I should just buy supllements, like enough that could replace those 7 meals a day if I only have 3 real meals.


buy lean steaks, chicken breasts fish fillet, oats, milk, broccolli, green veggies.

then cook, boil, grill, or steam 7 times a day and bulk up.

[DTSwole]

Right, my current diet is horrible, as I still live with my parents and we never have anything in the house. I'm thinking I should just buy supllements, like enough that could replace those 7 meals a day if I only have 3 real meals.

If your planning on using supplements to replace 4 whole food meals of the day, then your protein absorption is going to be terrible and your not going to get what your lookin for out of it man. Ive actually heard of people losing a lot of muscle mass over time using this convenient approach.

Ya bro I mean I respect you for atleast coming out and saying ya my diets ****. I hate ppl that are fake the other way lol.

the most supplements I would consider using at the max for myself would be:
multi (animal pak)
PWO (whey isolate)
during the day between one of my meals: (real Gains/ homemade gainer)
creatine only on lifting days (Size On)

you see there is no unnecessary supplement use- I still combine this with 7-8 whole food protein/ calorie dense meals a day.. I have gained 40 lbs. in the last 4 months. no other supplement use is necessary man- I neva replace meals.
In the end do whatever you want though bro- only you can make you happy man

[jenner01]

can you use real gains as a post workout shake?

[DTSwole]

can you use real gains as a post workout shake?

ya you'd be alright doin that..
for optimal supplementation Id suggest a straight whey isolate directly after workout- and then .5 serving real gains spread out in between meals

[tsdrew]

Supplements won't replace everything you get from good foods.

Why not tell your parents to buy you a few healthy foods from the grocery store?

You don't think I've tried that? Sure, I tell them I NEED TO GAIN WEIGHT RIGHT THE F NOW, but they will just buy some extra protein and never replace it. I'll have to start buying my own food.

[rshift]

You don't think I've tried that? Sure, I tell them I NEED TO GAIN WEIGHT RIGHT THE F NOW, but they will just buy some extra protein and never replace it. I'll have to start buying my own food.

That's pretty much the best thing you can do =/. Im stuck buying around $100 worth of groceries every other week just for myself and $100 on supps a month. It can get kinda pricey, but in the end eating whole foods will keep you fuller longer and take longer to digest vs protein shakes and some olive oil. Good luck.

What kind of results have some of you's seen on real gains? Im not getting enough calories in my diet and im an ectomorph as well. If i don't eat enough then i go back down 4-5 lbs of what I gained over a few weeks.

[ChristmasFnatic]

ya you'd be alright doin that..
for optimal supplementation Id suggest a straight whey isolate directly after workout- and then .5 serving real gains spread out in between meals

Wait, so I cant replace whey with weight gainers PWO? Weight gainers already contain 60g of protein per serving!

[sosaited]

Hey guys. Can someone please suggest if Real Gains (Or cytogainer, Serious Mass or any other) will help me put on weight and a little bit fat quickly. I am 20 years old, 5'4 and only 88 pounds, and its not that I eat a lot and don't gain weight, I don't eat enough that's why I am underweight. Please take a little bit of time and read my detailed scenario here:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109234831

[saken]

I use Mass xxx. so far i like it. It might give me a gut but thats ok. to trim my fat on my stomach to get a 6 pack im gonna start using Hydroxycut. so I can Gain muscle size from mass xxx. then lose the fat from hydroxycut to be bigger in muscle in chest, arms, and abs. so Im gaining weight (aka Muscle size) but losing the fat from the pill. guy at Gnc told me thats a good idea.

[DTSwole]

Wait, so I cant replace whey with weight gainers PWO? Weight gainers already contain 60g of protein per serving!

no, u can- you'd be perfectly fine doing that...

but w/ a straight whey isolate you would be getting more protein per serving/ one scoop directly after your workout and what you really really need- -fast acting protein. Also weight gainers sometimes are made up of mainly casein.. or a large portion of it taking up the protein balance which is not necessarily what your looking for PWO..

as well weight gainers a lot of the time contain rather low protein counts in each scoop.. like 15 g protein per scoop vs. say ON 100% whey where you get 24 grams protein per scoop of straight whey.. it will last you longer using it PWO and possibly more effective.

[jrwx78]

Cytogainer or Quick Mass?

Those are my top 2 picks. Quick Mass has about 1000 calories per serving. Anyone with experience with both/either products should give some feedback.

[Blue Blazer]

Cytogainer or Quick Mass?

Those are my top 2 picks. Quick Mass has about 1000 calories per serving. Anyone with experience with both/either products should give some feedback.

I've taken both, quickmass is quick crap!

Cytogainer is pretty solid, but after 2 years of messing around with gainers I can proudly tell you I am sticking to homemade gainers and if I ever do take another gainer, it will be a low calorie one like Real Gains, even then though, chances are I'll be sticking with food, most gainers have very low quality protein and carbs, as for the fats, well I'm not so sure, probobly pretty low quality as well

If I want low quality calories, I'll head over to Micky Dee's

[jrwx78]

I've taken both, quickmass is quick crap!

Cytogainer is pretty solid, but after 2 years of messing around with gainers I can proudly tell you I am sticking to homemade gainers and if I ever do take another gainer, it will be a low calorie one like Real Gains, even then though, chances are I'll be sticking with food, most gainers have very low quality protein and carbs, as for the fats, well I'm not so sure, probobly pretty low quality as well

If I want low quality calories, I'll head over to Micky Dee's

These gainers don't help produce lean fat? I am going to start using a gainer again because I lost 10 lbs since being out of a gym membership for 1 month and a half and want to start gaining again (i dont have time to cook/eat 5 meals a day yet).

[psychopath.]

I have taken Champion Heavyweight gainer 900. The vanilla tastes awesome and you only have to mix in 4 small scoops(154g), which is a lot less than other brands. Plus you can't beat their price. I highly recommend it, but must advise you that it contains lactose. I gained 5lbs. with the 7lb. container.

[jrstronge]

Cytogainer without a doubt

[69xchange]

Gytogainer is alright, so far ive tried cookies n creme, chocolate malt and banana creme.

Taste:
Chocolate Malt 8/10
Cookies N Creme 6/10
Banana Creme 5/10

I heard Strawberry N Creme leaves a bad starchy after taste, but everyone has different taste buds. I want to try Vanilla, Vanilla caramel swirl and chocolate caramel swirl next. Has anyone tried thoes flavors and what are your opinions?

[dgcoats]

I just ordered some Mutant Mass by PVL and was wondering if anyone else has tried that, and if so did ya'll get good results? This'll be my first gainer, so I'm pretty excited.

[FWCMuZiK]

I have taken Champion Heavyweight gainer 900. The vanilla tastes awesome and you only have to mix in 4 small scoops(154g), which is a lot less than other brands. Plus you can't beat their price. I highly recommend it, but must advise you that it contains lactose. I gained 5lbs. with the 7lb. container.

i gained a lot off of it but when i mix it with milk it messes my stomach up and makes me real gassy

[trainTilfailure]

hey guys, im a real ecto right here.. i mean if im not eating ALL day, i WILL lose weight in that day. my body just destroys calories. would any of you recommond muscle juice? i know it gets **** for having 60g sugar, but its super cheap and im so tempted to order a 10lb tub to put some mass on.

[remyxcore]

I just took the 12LB bag of ON Serious Mass and working out 3 to 4 days a week for this first month I gained 5 pounds with no gut :)

I might give Muscle Milk a shot though

Edit:

I took 1 scoop in the morning and 1 scoop at night. You MUST blend it because its a lot of powder per serving.

[ChristmasFnatic]

I just took the 12LB bag of ON Serious Mass and working out 3 to 4 days a week for this first month I gained 5 pounds with no gut :)

I might give Muscle Milk a shot though

Edit:

I took 1 scoop in the morning and 1 scoop at night. You MUST blend it because its a lot of powder per serving.

12lb. of Serious Mass lasted for a month?

[Jake_15]

Anyone tried this?

http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=7723

The price is unbeatable, and there's so much Protein per serving it's unbelievable.

[korie_dputra]

currently, i'm in bulk phase...
my choice is Real Gain & Cytogainer

the reasons :
..both taste great..choc taste!!mix well too....
..more protein, over than 50g per serving...
...over than 500 calories per serving......

..i usually use it as my post workout....& sometime i use half serving only....

[DeXyrus]

im considering using wieders mega mass 2000, i found 24 pounds of it for a great deal.


ill tell u guys the results.

X

[kevinm24]

how often do u guys take weight gainers a day? and do u still use whey for after workouts?

[SportPharmaRep]

how often do u guys take weight gainers a day? and do u still use whey for after workouts?

When bulking I use and recommend using a weight gainer like SportPharma's Gain Max twice a day. Once in the morning upon waking and a second serving post-workout. It really depends on how many extra calories you're looking to pack in.

[trainTilfailure]

hey guys i just ordered muscle juice.. 10lbs choco.. let me just stay this stuff taste pretty bad, doesnt mix well (chunky), and doesnt feel good after drinking it. i think prolab n-large 2 was MUCH better, tastes awesome, n smoother blend. i gained 10 SOLID pounds from the prolab which i took last summer, i havent lost any of the weight i gained so i guess its solid.

btw im done with weight gainers after this one, im sticking with just ON whey

[Turboboy]

Best tasting one to me is Champion Nutrition's Heavyweight Gainer 900. The chocolate is just damn fine. lol

[steeldragons]

prolab n-large 2

[golden.eye04]

just started taking universal real gains n tell u guys wat .... the vanilla flavor is like hell ... tastes so bad .. like few crushed tablets in water ........ lookin to take it now wid milk ..........

n how much scoops u guys use after post workout ???

[ChristmasFnatic]

Best tasting one to me is Champion Nutrition's Heavyweight Gainer 900. The chocolate is just damn fine. lol

Is it good quality wise(gains)?

[DTSwole]

Anyone tried this?

http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=7723

The price is unbeatable, and there's so much Protein per serving it's unbelievable.


*5 scoops per serving though bro.. lol

[T150]

What about cyto muscle milk, anyone?

I was thinking of getting cytogainer buy it seems expensive for the amount of servings. Is it worth it??

[eclipse06r]

has anyone ever tried the gnc version of mass xxx? and what do you think if you have?

[italianplaya30]

quick mass is a solid product

[sbodyboardw]

i have tried prolabs n-large2 and universal real gains and to be honest i have had the same results with both of them. the only difference is that n-large2 doesnt mix as well as real gains which doesnt mix that well either. overall, they are pretty much the same and i am debating which one to buy next.

i am thinking of getting optimium serious mass next. has anyone had any success with it?

[Blue Blazer]

i have tried prolabs n-large2 and universal real gains and to be honest i have had the same results with both of them. the only difference is that n-large2 doesnt mix as well as real gains which doesnt mix that well either. overall, they are pretty much the same and i am debating which one to buy next.

i am thinking of getting optimium serious mass next. has anyone had any success with it?

Serious mass has something like 250 grams of carbs in one shake, this is insane imo, why would we need so much in one sitting? Even the big guys bulking wouldn't need this much lol

Real Gains and N Large 2 are decent lean mass gainers, but low quality carbs (maltodextrin)

I would recommend MHP Up Your Mass, check out their ingredients and just compare them to some gainers you're familiar with, you'll see it has decent ingredients compared to most gainers ;)

Best of luck

[sbodyboardw]

Serious mass has something like 250 grams of carbs in one shake, this is insane imo, why would we need so much in one sitting? Even the big guys bulking wouldn't need this much lol

Real Gains and N Large 2 are decent lean mass gainers, but low quality carbs (maltodextrin)

I would recommend MHP Up Your Mass, check out their ingredients and just compare them to some gainers you're familiar with, you'll see it has decent ingredients compared to most gainers ;)

Best of luck

thanks. i checked out up your mass and the ingriedents look superb but the calories look a little low for a weight gainer and same as the carbs. they are high but i want a lot of calories and carbs. ill probably buy 3lbs if up your mass and see how it works

[TarheelMak]

has anyone ever tried the gnc version of mass xxx? and what do you think if you have?

my best friend has been taking gnc mass xxx for a long time now, and i haven't noticed much mass improvement. the guy is about as lean as they come and can't put on weight no matter what he does though, so it might not be a fault of the mass xxx

[Mark-IQ]

I remember back when I was skinny, Mega Mass was very popular, how come no one is talking about it now? Anyway I've got 1 pack of Mega Mass 4000 for a skinny friend of mine who has been working out for months..

I want to know the best usage for it, the directions on the pack says 3 scoops of it mixed with 3 cups of milk, does that mean once a day? before or after workout? Any suggestions are more than welcome!!!

[Blue Blazer]

thanks. i checked out up your mass and the ingriedents look superb but the calories look a little low for a weight gainer and same as the carbs. they are high but i want a lot of calories and carbs. ill probably buy 3lbs if up your mass and see how it works

Holy f*ck dude you don't want a gainer at 15 years old and 170lbs bro, you can get your calories from food, go pick up some ultra peptide and make some homemade gainer shake, and if you have extra cash buy a whey isolate/concentrate blend to add pwo along with a serving of UP as well

throw in some oats, pb and milk and there you have it, Guaranteed gains!

[DTSwole]

I remember back when I was skinny, Mega Mass was very popular, how come no one is talking about it now? Anyway I've got 1 pack of Mega Mass 4000 for a skinny friend of mine who has been working out for months..

I want to know the best usage for it, the directions on the pack says 3 scoops of it mixed with 3 cups of milk, does that mean once a day? before or after workout? Any suggestions are more than welcome!!!


might not be the best place/ thread to ask bro.. this threads been here a long time and ppl just kinda stop by and drop in their favorite gainer for conversation sake... if you would like to know feedback/ experience about mega mass post a thread about this gainer in the supps. section? bro I would help but I havent done any research or anything on this supp. and have no experience w/ it.. sorry man

[roadracer247]

Muscle Juice user here! No complaints!

[claudev]

Is it good quality wise(gains)?

nah man that sh-its nasty!

[emilooos]

MHP Up Your Mass.
Nice quality carbs, lot of healthy fats, nice protein dosage.
Very good taste and solubility.
Number 1!

[SupaFly78]

You guys ever tried Mass Meal by Ergopharm? How's the taste?

I'm currently using the vanilla, it's the best tasting supplement I've ever tried in my entire life, off the charts. NitroCore24 by ON Caramel Toffee Fudge is also unreal.

[jinchoy]

Muscle Juice user here! No complaints!

I use that too. It's alright, no problems from me.

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[J.O.B.]

hands down ultimate nutrition muscle juice cheap high calories n last awhile betr thn a wk like most n i actually only do 3 scoops not 4 stil a lot of calories n makes the tub last longer, n that new 1 by ultimate nutrition is suppose 2 good, mass xxx horrible cyto gainer horrible mass tech horrbilbe. . . . . . . . . n i think a poll wouldnt help most ppl r stupid n buy products jst cuz ther advertised so much doesnt mean ther any good exp muscle tech r all bad products wit huge price tags same wit 99% of the stuff u c everyday n a add is a bunch of bs find products that high quiltiy of what ur lookin 4 wit out all the hype behind it

[billy.]

Oats And Sweet Potatoes!

[hmc2575]

Hands down.... UP YOUR MASS by MHP. And the cinnabun flavor rocks!!

[user_8dfg_kwjhe_kjwh]

hands down ultimate nutrition muscle juice cheap high calories n last awhile betr thn a wk like most n i actually only do 3 scoops not 4 stil a lot of calories n makes the tub last longer, n that new 1 by ultimate nutrition is suppose 2 good, mass xxx horrible cyto gainer horrible mass tech horrbilbe. . . . . . . . . n i think a poll wouldnt help most ppl r stupid n buy products jst cuz ther advertised so much doesnt mean ther any good exp muscle tech r all bad products wit huge price tags same wit 99% of the stuff u c everyday n a add is a bunch of bs find products that high quiltiy of what ur lookin 4 wit out all the hype behind it
thats alot to say comin from a fat azz

[champ895]

dam they got so many weight gainers..which one is cheap yet mixes nicely ? last i remeber i used nlarge2 a while a long time ago and the taste was disgustin!

[zguernica]

serious mass.

[italianplaya30]

Quick mass works.....a lot of guys at my gym use it and swear by it!

i will be using it in the offseason

[champ895]

they mix good and the taste is good??

[nickk0]

for summer muscle milk because I need so many calories to gain weight and during winter I go with universal real gain or cytosport.

[FLPump]

Real Gains is where its at

[Canz]

Optimum's Serious Mass . . perfect for post workout with maltodextrin being the main ingrediant

[mililani00]

i dont like the strawberries inn muscle jucie

[jesse632993]

i love cytogainer it tastes good and it works

[jopo31]

If you are looking for a quality weight gainer then Ultimate Nutrition's Iso Mass X-Treme Gainer is what you want... It is packed with a thousand calories in milk ,72g of protien ,7g of creatine, 500mg of N.O, Also has your Omega 3's and some vitamins. To me this would be one of the better weight gainers out right now.

[Delusional]

has anyone ever tried the gnc version of mass xxx? and what do you think if you have?

I'm going to start taking it. It seems pretty good, especially since I already get enough cals for my body and I just need those extra 700

[getbig_ttt]

If I want you want serious mass, you can't go wrong with Ultimate Nutrition Muscle Juice 2544. Some real old school stuff right there. Sure you might get fat, but its perfect for a dirty bulk...

[LilJohn148]

^^What Flavor of Muscle Juice are you trying out Getbig TTT?

I tried Strawberry and Cookies and Cream and I don't really remember strawberry, but I didn't like it. And Cookies, which is what I'm using now, taste like crap, mixes like crap, and makes you feel like crap. I MIGHT try Chocolate, just to give Muscle Juice 1 last try, but I think the fact switching it up with different weight gainers is what helps because your body is not use to the same ingredients.
John

[itsgroll]

is there a gainer thats price friendly?! i mean i love cytosport products, but for the price its rediculous. i would rather get regular ON Whey and add milk and eat a slice of bread and jelly after a workout.

[Unst0pp4bl3]

is there a gainer thats price friendly?! i mean i love cytosport products, but for the price its rediculous. i would rather get regular ON Whey and add milk and eat a slice of bread and jelly after a workout.

muscle juice, probably the cheapest weight gainer per lbs there is. it works too

[ih8ursuv]

Judging by my buddies appearances I'd say marriage is the quickest, easiest and most noticeable weight gainer.

Works even better for the ladies...........

[tuhaka2005]

I've only tried cytogainer and that did well for me, I have an order of Real Gains coming in the next couple of days so lets see how that does!

[Seven_McNuggets]

Judging by my buddies appearances I'd say marriage is the quickest, easiest and most noticeable weight gainer.

Works even better for the ladies...........

lolol i laughed at that :P

[FWCMuZiK]

I just ordered some muscle juice off this site yesterday and the tracking said it will be here today so i will post about it after 2 weeks

[Jackson81]

I have a skinny frame and its really hard for me to pack on the pounds.. Any suggestions for a good product adding mass? I was thinking either Muscle Juice or Real Gains...

[tuhaka2005]

Real Gains tastes awesome, Only got it yesterday so I cant really give a good enough review but it definately tastes good and should help me pack on some pounds :)

[Glover1234]

Right now im enjoying the muscle juice chocolate taste isnt bad when blended with ice and milk

[Uplifter]

i've used Serious Mass in the past and really like it

[543642]

^^What Flavor of Muscle Juice are you trying out Getbig TTT?

I tried Strawberry and Cookies and Cream and I don't really remember strawberry, but I didn't like it. And Cookies, which is what I'm using now, taste like crap, mixes like crap, and makes you feel like crap. I MIGHT try Chocolate, just to give Muscle Juice 1 last try, but I think the fact switching it up with different weight gainers is what helps because your body is not use to the same ingredients.
John
Chocolate tastes great imo.

[Geneticz]

cytogainer is great

[Ya Boy Dave]

REFLEX - INSTANT MASS

The BEST quality weight gainer hands down. Most companies use Maltodextrin as the carb source, which is classed a complex carb because of its double bond. But the bond is so weak it is converted to glucose very quickly and has a higher GI rating than SUGAR!

Instant mass has 3 diff types of protein, whey, egg and micellar casein (not caseinate) and the carb sources are natural organic oats and barley. If you know anything about nutrition then you should know this is a top of the range product.

[Blue Blazer]

REFLEX - INSTANT MASS

The BEST quality weight gainer hands down. Most companies use Maltodextrin as the carb source, which is classed a complex carb because of its double bond. But the bond is so weak it is converted to glucose very quickly and has a higher GI rating than SUGAR!

Instant mass has 3 diff types of protein, whey, egg and micellar casein (not caseinate) and the carb sources are natural organic oats and barley. If you know anything about nutrition then you should know this is a top of the range product.

Looks very good, best gainer I've seen, MHP UP Your Mass is also a good one. Up your mass uses sunflower oil for fats

What does instant gainer use?

[FWCMuZiK]

I just took my muscle juice vanilla flavored taste very good hopefully it works will report back in like 2 weeks

[sickonstorm]

weight gainers.....damn haven't taken one of those in years. How's the taste with those...because back in the day it was like drinking wet cement.

ive been on real gains, and have taken 11 servings, and noticed ****. i mtrying muscle juice next!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sickonstorm]

weight gainers.....damn haven't taken one of those in years. How's the taste with those...because back in the day it was like drinking wet cement.

ive been on real gains, and have taken 11 servings, and noticed ****. i mtrying muscle juice next!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[asalways]

N Large II By Prolab is the best bet among the weight gainers. It is also price friendly, according to the servings per container. But use it in slightly smaller doses to start with, if u are a beginner with N Large II. It is a strong formula. So Be Careful!

[asalways]

I have been trying out N-Large II, but god it is putting me on the toilet...
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Start off slowly. The serving size is 4 scoops. You can start off with one scoop and gradually increase it to 4 in a week to ten days' time. Since it is a strong formula, you need to train intense to get good results and minimize the adverse effects. Also drink in lots of water. a gallon or two a day will do.

[Seven_McNuggets]

Start off slowly. The serving size is 4 scoops. You can start off with one scoop and gradually increase it to 4 in a week to ten days' time. Since it is a strong formula, you need to train intense to get good results and minimize the adverse effects. Also drink in lots of water. a gallon or two a day will do.

What about ON Serious Mass?

[asalways]

What about ON Serious Mass?
You can take ON Serious Mass, if your glycogen stores have been depleted or you are low on energy. Start with 1/2 scoop to full serving to gain resistance. Remember Excess Caarbohydrates will make u feel drowsy. Count your carbs, according to ur body needs, and whatever you are deficit, you can make it from ON Serious Mass. In addition consider taking NOW Gr8 DoPhillus with this. It will ensure your intestinal health, and make passing of stools relatively easier. Also give a break after 8-12 weeks with your weight gainer.

[JTFisher79]

I am very interested in seeing who the winners are but I have no time to read 65 pages. Any cliff notes

[toughen]

Has anyone ever heard of MONSTER FOOD I took it when i was first trying to get bigger it seemed to help, but was also taken in about 4 to 5000 cal a day without it.
Now i am looking for a new gainer to do the most for the buck any suggestions

[RAMWolff]

Best, so far for me is:

Universal Real Gains (Strawberry):
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/real.html

Worst for me (bloating, gassy and head fullness) is:
Dymatize High Protein Mega Gainer:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dym/hpgainer.html

I'm ordering a large Strawberry and a small Chocolate of the Universal Real Gains so I can get that packaging so I can send back the Dymatize. They call it "Mega Chocolate", tastes more like "kinda sorta" chocolate with peanut butter with a nice fake after taste left on your tongue.

If anyone knows how I should proceed in sending this back (as in class to send it back with, insure or not insure, UPS or USPS or what ever I would greatly appreciate the info.

Thanks much

Richard ;-)~

[tallthing]

been on cytogainer for 2 weeks and man i love this stuff
cookies and creme is rocking my world

[asalways]

Does Taste matter more than real results! Any Comments from anyone.

[RAMWolff]

Does Taste matter more than real results! Any Comments from anyone.

Well, if your going to subject yourself to drinking a protein drink, daily or even multiple times a day you really might want it to taste like something you enjoy! YA?? ;)

[ArmyBoots]

Best, so far for me is:

Universal Real Gains (Strawberry):
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/real.html



X2 picked up about 10lbs on it and tastes great

[RAMWolff]

X2 picked up about 10lbs on it and tastes great

If you want more kick to it then throw in a Grape Juice bar (I use the ones from Dreyer's). More sugar but the Grape is strong enough to add more kick to the flavor. I add in a banana as well and fresh strawberries to really top it off. I use RAW whole milk and 2 tablespoon fulls of Olive Oil and if I want more energy and goodness I add in a scoop of Nature's Plus "Red Lightning" (Hmm, wonder if BB.com carries that?? Might get it for less here and it's damned good stuff too)

[X-Mark-X]

I'm not a fan of gainers that use maltodextrin as their carb source (which is 95% of them).

Here is my list of the best gainers out there, none of which contain sugar or maltodextrin:

1. MHP Up Your Mass (carbs from oats, barley, and oat fiber).

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/mass.html

2. Bionic Edge Mass Builder (carbs from brown rice, oatmeal, and sweet potatoes).

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/rtn/massbuilder.html

3. Reflex Instant Mass (carbs from oats and barley).

Not available from bodybuilding.com (or anywhere outside of the UK/Australia for some reason).

[vincerich]

I would have to go with Cytgainer.....Great combo of ingredients and smooth taste. A really close second is Up Your Mass by MHP.....The complex carbs and fiber are something else.

[Idontlikeit]

*** Hey guys I am looking to put on some serious mass without fat or being gutty.

I'm 5-10"
170lbs
13-14% b.f.

My diets messed up because i dont know what to eat and how to eat like order up calculations of carbs,protein,fats

Plus ramadan is this month so i dont have time to eat every 3 hours only
5:40AM , 7:40PM---->5:40AM next day.

So I am thinking about a Mass-Gainer to replace my meals can I do this?
While still eating?

I heard Universal Mass Gains is good? Anyone agree.
THnx!!

I think you can but only as a "snack". I only drink 2 gainer shake a day. one in the daytime where i dont have time to eat and the other rite b4 i go to sleep. Tried Universal Real Gain it didnt do anything for me maybe my diet wasnt right. idk

[X-Mark-X]

*** Hey guys I am looking to put on some serious mass without fat or being gutty.

I'm 5-10"
170lbs
13-14% b.f.

My diets messed up because i dont know what to eat and how to eat like order up calculations of carbs,protein,fats

Plus ramadan is this month so i dont have time to eat every 3 hours only
5:40AM , 7:40PM---->5:40AM next day.

So I am thinking about a Mass-Gainer to replace my meals can I do this?
While still eating?

I heard Universal Mass Gains is good? Anyone agree.
THnx!!

Getting your diet figured out should be your number one priority, I wouldn't bother worrying about a gainer until then. But regardless, your going to see 0 results if you're fasting 14 hours a day. I wish I could ruin my diet because my mommy and daddy told me to (sarcasm).

And no, mass gains is crap for a meal replacement because it's maltodextrin based, look into Up Your Mass. Even with a gainer though, after ramadan your stats will probably be:

5'10"
160lbs
15-16% B.F.

[asalways]

Well, if your going to subject yourself to drinking a protein drink, daily or even multiple times a day you really might want it to taste like something you enjoy! YA?? ;)
Quite rightly said. But Efficacy should always come first. For taste buds to save from getting bored, we can use different flavours, as also add some variety to make it lasting. Is it OK.

[asalways]

*** Hey guys I am looking to put on some serious mass without fat or being gutty.

I'm 5-10"
170lbs
13-14% b.f.

My diets messed up because i dont know what to eat and how to eat like order up calculations of carbs,protein,fats

Plus ramadan is this month so i dont have time to eat every 3 hours only
5:40AM , 7:40PM---->5:40AM next day.

So I am thinking about a Mass-Gainer to replace my meals can I do this?
While still eating?

I heard Universal Mass Gains is good? Anyone agree.
THnx!!
It is good to fast in the month of Ramadan. I would recommend that you better start after Ramadan. And train fully till the next Ramadan. And then give your body, mind, soul and digestive system a complete rest. It will work nice for you, provided you are not entering into any competition.

As For Weight Gainer, Try N-Large II by Prolab and Stack it with Universal Shock Therapy for real gains. In addition, if you want lean muscle gain, consider taking ON Whey 1 serving right after workout.
Also every Universal products is good and comes with a money back guarantee. You can use them too!!

Mass Gainer or any other supplements is never a substitute for natural diet. It is just an addition to your diet, so that u dont feel deficit in your goals. Hope done.

[hypnodave]

I would also like to hear from people who have used Muscle Juice (cheapest per calorie)

I can't attest for the gains yet since I've just purchased it but the taste is straight up awful.

[DDeLay]

I can't attest for the gains yet since I've just purchased it but the taste is straight up awful.

Good Gains...Just open up the air cap on your shaker and tilt your head back!!!Just down it!

[carnage08]

I used ON Pro Complex Gainer for about 3-4 weeks and I gained 10-12 lbs, and trust me I am a very hard gainer and I will definatly be purchasing another tub of this, possibly the 10 lbs tub.

[X-Mark-X]

I used ON Pro Complex Gainer for about 3-4 weeks and I gained 10-12 lbs, and trust me I am a very hard gainer and I will definatly be purchasing another tub of this, possibly the 10 lbs tub.

I hate posts like this. First of all, how much weight you gain depends on how many calories you're taking in, NOT which gainer you're taking (the entire purpose of a gainer is to up your calories, they all do this, none of them are special for this reason). So saying "I gained x amount of lbs taking this gainer" means nothing, because you would have gained that many pounds taking that many calories from ANY OTHER GAINER (or from eating that many calories worth of real food for that matter). You gained x amount of pounds from taking in y amount of calories every day, regardless of where the calories came from. Weight gainers aren't magic, they are pretty much the same as food.

Furthermore, 10-12lbs is too much weight to gain in 3-4 weeks, unless you're on steroids I guarantee you a good portion of that weight was fat. You want to gain ~1lb/week, not ~4lb/week.

Lastly, all of the gainers people keep recommending for this reason are crappy maltodextrin based gainers (90% of gainers). Maltodextrin sucks as a carb source in a gainer, unless you're using it for post workout. ON Pro is just like all the other gainers out there and while it's great for post workout, it's nothing special and if you're using it at any time other than post workout or breakfast you're better off with an oat based gainer like MHP Up Your Mass, which is almost the exact same value (unless you're scared of soy protein, but there are still other options).

[JTFisher79]

I hate posts like this. First of all, how much weight you gain depends on how many calories you're taking in, NOT which gainer you're taking (the entire purpose of a gainer is to up your calories, they all do this, none of them are special for this reason). So saying "I gained x amount of lbs taking this gainer" means nothing, because you would have gained that many pounds taking that many calories from ANY OTHER GAINER (or from eating that many calories worth of real food for that matter). You gained x amount of pounds from taking in y amount of calories every day, regardless of where the calories came from. Weight gainers aren't magic, they are pretty much the same as food.

Furthermore, 10-12lbs is too much weight to gain in 3-4 weeks, unless you're on steroids I guarantee you a good portion of that weight was fat. You want to gain ~1lb/week, not ~4lb/week.

Lastly, all of the gainers people keep recommending for this reason are crappy maltodextrin based gainers (90% of gainers). Maltodextrin sucks as a carb source in a gainer, unless you're using it for post workout. ON Pro is just like all the other gainers out there and while it's great for post workout, it's nothing special and if you're using it at any time other than post workout or breakfast you're better off with an oat based gainer like MHP Up Your Mass, which is almost the exact same value (unless you're scared of soy protein, but there are still other options).

so if you were to use one gainer based upon ingredients it would be the up your mass

[X-Mark-X]

so if you were to use one gainer based upon ingredients it would be the up your mass

Ya, well, based on ingredients and price. The only downside to Up Your Mass is that it uses soy protein. Personally I don't think it's a big deal, but some people don't care to include soy protein in their diet. Seeing as I don't get any other soy in my diet, I doubt it would make a difference. I've researched it a fair bit and for every study I find saying it's bad, there's another that says it isn't bad, so it isn't really conclusive in my opinion.

There are other oat based gainers but some of them are a lot more expensive. At ~$32 for 5lbs Up Your Mass isn't expensive at all as far as gainers go. Bionic Edge Mass Builder is also a really solid gainer, although it has a 2:1 carb : protein ratio which I don't care for and it's also a lot more expensive than Up Your Mass. So yes, Up Your Mass is my favorite gainer, I just ordered 15lbs worth of it, gotta buy in bulk to save on shipping haha.

[FWCMuZiK]

Heavy Weight Gainer works great but it messes up my stomach so im gonna stick with muscle juice now

[xraffyx]

seriously, Ive been reading this thread for a long time. Most of the time I see "great tasting" or "good tasting" or "tastes like blah blah blah"

people here are actually trying to see if theres anything useful for them (That includes me). Since we dont gain from the taste.

peace.

--

btw, I'm eye'ing on Optimum Pro Complex Gainer.

[Reptile]

I wanted to start my bulking phase near the end of September so I have another couple of weeks or so. Still am confused of which gainer to take, I've tried a couple before as I've made my own always, wanted to try something else for convenience. I narrowed my choices down to Universal Real Gains, Cytosport's CytoGainer and ON's PRO COMPLEX Gainer. The only reason I lean a bit towards the ON gainer is because it has half of the cholestrol content as compared to the others. But I might take one serving of Real Gains PWO and ON's PRO Complex Gainer one other time in the day. Still thinking about this though. Suggestions are welcome although I have read a lot of the previous posts, lol.

[asalways]

I wanted to start my bulking phase near the end of September so I have another couple of weeks or so. Still am confused of which gainer to take, I've tried a couple before as I've made my own always, wanted to try something else for convenience. I narrowed my choices down to Universal Real Gains, Cytosport's CytoGainer and ON's PRO COMPLEX Gainer. The only reason I lean a bit towards the ON gainer is because it has half of the cholestrol content as compared to the others. But I might take one serving of Real Gains PWO and ON's PRO Complex Gainer one other time in the day. Still thinking about this though. Suggestions are welcome although I have read a lot of the previous posts, lol.
Try N-Large II By Prolab, in combination with a good NO supplement, such as Universal Shock Therapy. Both the supplements are cheap as comes to price per serving. Plus take a good multi for optimal growth.

[JTFisher79]

has that main ingredient maltodextrin. X-Mark-X seems to really know what he is talking about and I will be switching to up your mass. After looking at the ingredients it does seem to be the best.

[X-Mark-X]

has that main ingredient maltodextrin. X-Mark-X seems to really know what he is talking about and I will be switching to up your mass. After looking at the ingredients it does seem to be the best.

At least I managed to bring one person to the light haha. The thing is all gainers are the same, they have ~80g of carbs from maltodextrin, ~60g of protein from a combination of whey and casein usually, and then ~9g of fat from varying sources, usually EFA's though. I mean honestly, just look at the four gainers you guys posted above me, the ON Pro, Cyto Gainer, N-Large, and Real Gains, they are all nearly identical. To answer the poster above me, I would personally recommend the Cyto Gainer for POST WORKOUT ONLY out of all of those gainers. It has more vitamins as well as added creatine and glutamine, so it's your best choice, but really you're not going to notice a difference if you take any of the other ones. You should not take ON Pro for a different time of the day, you should take Up Your Mass or a gainer like that which has a low GI carb source.

Here is where the clever marketing comes in. Maltodextrin, due to its chemical structure, is technically a complex carbohydrate, not a sugar. However, as far as your body and your metabolism is concerned, it is a sugar. It spikes your blood sugar and insulin, which causes fat storage, just like a sugar. The reason they put this stuff in all of the gainers is because it's EXTREMELY cheap (like sugar) and yet it allows them to say that their gainer is sugar free. Then, they throw a TON of big words on their ingredients list so that nobody has a hope in hell of understanding what it is their drinking. People see "sugar free" and think oh the carbs must be good, when in fact they're not.

So, in conclusion, if you're looking for a gainer to have post workout, go ahead and buy something like Cyto Gainer. But if you're planning on replacing your meals with a shake, you're going to want something that's actually low GI, like Up Your Mass. MHP should be paying me for all this marketing I'm doing for them haha.

[X-Mark-X]

Try N-Large II By Prolab, in combination with a good NO supplement, such as Universal Shock Therapy. Both the supplements are cheap as comes to price per serving. Plus take a good multi for optimal growth.

All 3 of the gainers he listed are better than N-Large.

[JTFisher79]

I will only be using the remainder of my muscle juice for post workout only. That seems to be the best time to take it due to the extreme amount of glutamine and bcaa's

[JTFisher79]

also..is it ok to pre-mix homemade shakes with protein powder if I am not going to be drinking them right away. I am starting a new job tonight and am not real sure of the accessibility of blenders and i really dont want to bring all those ingredients with me

[Reptile]

All 3 of the gainers he listed are better than N-Large.

Yeah I agree,
actually N-Large 2 was one of the first gainers I tried a few years back and it literally started to give me boobs so I stopped. You are right though, I checked out Up Your Mass and it looks solid, a bit more expensive but I like the nutritional profile.

[X-Mark-X]

also..is it ok to pre-mix homemade shakes with protein powder if I am not going to be drinking them right away. I am starting a new job tonight and am not real sure of the accessibility of blenders and i really dont want to bring all those ingredients with me

Ya, it's fine, I do it all the time.

[carnage08]

I wanted to start my bulking phase near the end of September so I have another couple of weeks or so. Still am confused of which gainer to take, I've tried a couple before as I've made my own always, wanted to try something else for convenience. I narrowed my choices down to Universal Real Gains, Cytosport's CytoGainer and ON's PRO COMPLEX Gainer. The only reason I lean a bit towards the ON gainer is because it has half of the cholestrol content as compared to the others. But I might take one serving of Real Gains PWO and ON's PRO Complex Gainer one other time in the day. Still thinking about this though. Suggestions are welcome although I have read a lot of the previous posts, lol.

Well, through my experience of ON's Pro Complex Gainer, it has an amazing taste to it (double chocolate anyways) and it actually puts the pounds on if you're a hardgainer.

[DogEatDog3]

cliffs?

[Reptile]

Well, through my experience of ON's Pro Complex Gainer, it has an amazing taste to it (double chocolate anyways) and it actually puts the pounds on if you're a hardgainer.

I agree with you on that bro, although I can't comment on the gainer by ON, I have taken ON's PRO Complex Protein blend which has a great nutritional profile and did great for me.

I'm either going to go this way or just make my own with
1. two scoops of ON's whey
2. half a cup of oat flour
3. half a cup of skim milk
4. once and a while a tablespoon of Natty PB

[asalways]

All 3 of the gainers he listed are better than N-Large.
Have u tried N-Large II

[X-Mark-X]

Have u tried N-Large II

No, I don't need to. The same way I don't need to try an all McDonald's diet for a month to know if it's good for me or not. I know the other three are better just by comparing ingredients/macronutrients. They are all made with the same stuff: maltodextrin, whey protein, and some flavoring. The difference is that the other ones have vitamins/minerals added as well as some glutamine and creatine, where N-large is quite simply maltodextrin and protein, that's about it. Don't get me wrong, they're barely better, but still.

[sandmanse7en]

I have a rough time with weight gainers since they are hard on my stomach as far as the best, I would be hard pressed for an answer. I do know that the wheybolic 60 from GNC is almost unbearable when it comes to the normal dose It seems almost impossible to digest.

[X-Mark-X]

I have a rough time with weight gainers since they are hard on my stomach as far as the best, I would be hard pressed for an answer. I do know that the wheybolic 60 from GNC is almost unbearable when it comes to the normal dose It seems almost impossible to digest.

If gainers upset your stomach try taking one that has a good amount of enzymes in it (protease, lactase, lipase, etc.). Those will help with the digestion.

[JTFisher79]

could it possibly be all the sugar in some of them

[blackie0112]

I found Dymatize mega gainer fairly good i was taking it for a while and added a few kgs of mass, i was recommended by a trainer to buy ISO MASS EXTREME because of the extra creatine/glutamine, but ive heard it tastes like ****!

[X-Mark-X]

I found Dymatize mega gainer fairly good i was taking it for a while and added a few kgs of mass, i was recommended by a trainer to buy ISO MASS EXTREME because of the extra creatine/glutamine, but ive heard it tastes like ****!

LIES! Iso mass is a really solid gainer. It's maltodextrin based so I would only take it post workout, but it's got creatine, glutamine, and a really solid multi as well as EFA's and digestive enzymes too. It's pretty much as good as you can get for a malto based gainer, decently priced too. I have tried the chocolate and it's delicious, even in water. I actually just got back from the gym and am drinking some right now haha.

[blackie0112]

LIES! Iso mass is a really solid gainer. It's maltodextrin based so I would only take it post workout, but it's got creatine, glutamine, and a really solid multi as well as EFA's and digestive enzymes too. It's pretty much as good as you can get for a malto based gainer, decently priced too. I have tried the chocolate and it's delicious, even in water. I actually just got back from the gym and am drinking some right now haha.

thanks for the heads up man sounds like i better go buy some lol, have you seen good gains from it? put on any fat?

[Seven_McNuggets]

I'm currently using Cytogainer and it's working great so far

[kolamy]

For me the best product available for weight gain is Mega Mass 4000
I'm wondring if it is a good product
Thanks.

[asalways]

No, I don't need to. The same way I don't need to try an all McDonald's diet for a month to know if it's good for me or not. I know the other three are better just by comparing ingredients/macronutrients. They are all made with the same stuff: maltodextrin, whey protein, and some flavoring. The difference is that the other ones have vitamins/minerals added as well as some glutamine and creatine, where N-large is quite simply maltodextrin and protein, that's about it. Don't get me wrong, they're barely better, but still.
Quite a Good Addition to my kitty. It is better to see there are other good gainers other than N-Large II. Thanks for the info.

But Still let me add, that N-Large gives the best value per serving as well as nutrients.

[asalways]

For me the best product available for weight gain is Mega Mass 4000
I'm wondring if it is a good product
Thanks.
Ya, a good one.

[JTFisher79]

I have just decided to make my own gainers. I use two scoops of whey or nitrocore 24 then at about 20 oz of 1 to 2 percent milk, a half to a cup of oats and two to three scoops of reduced fat PB.

[kolamy]

Sorry for the trouble. but, can I ask how and when should I take it? Is it OK to have it with Creatine?
Thanks a lot.

[X-Mark-X]

thanks for the heads up man sounds like i better go buy some lol, have you seen good gains from it? put on any fat?

Well of course I've got gains, but like I said earlier, gainers aren't magic they're just replacing food. I eat 3400 calories/day from whole food and get 600/day from my gainer. The gainer is there to help me hit my macros/calories for the day, nothing more.

To answer your question though. I would not have had the gains if I was not eating enough and I would have had a harder time eating enough without the gainer, so yes it helped my gains. I'm confident that any other gainer PWO would have been just fine though.

[X-Mark-X]

Sorry for the trouble. but, can I ask how and when should I take it? Is it OK to have it with Creatine?
Thanks a lot.

Take it post workout. Some gainers have creatine in them, so yes it is ok to have with creatine, as long as it does not already contain creatine.

[carnage08]

I was wondering while taking ON's Pro Complex Gainer, can I take my Cell Mass first then, a serving of Pro Complex Gainer right after taking Cell Mass after my workout?

Thanks!

[razster]

I have ON Serious Mass I already gained like 5 lbs in 1.5 weeks. Serious mass is decent I have nothing to compare it too, but it seems to work the taste is mediocre.

My only problem is there is no way I can handle the full dose of two full scoops(when they say two scoops they mean it they are huge) so I divide it up in the day.

Also, after I do take 2 full scoops I feel somewhat sick and then I get extremely sleepy after taking it.

I mean sleepy I am normally knocked out 20 minutes immediately after taking it and I'm normally not someone would would get sleepy.

[simpleguy]

No, I don't need to. The same way I don't need to try an all McDonald's diet for a month to know if it's good for me or not. I know the other three are better just by comparing ingredients/macronutrients. They are all made with the same stuff: maltodextrin, whey protein, and some flavoring. The difference is that the other ones have vitamins/minerals added as well as some glutamine and creatine, where N-large is quite simply maltodextrin and protein, that's about it. Don't get me wrong, they're barely better, but still.

*standing ovation*... not many people today realise that all weightgainers are overpriced... it's much cheaper to make your own

also, imo N-Large II is not a great choice because of the ion-exchanged whey... yes, it does sound 'cool?' but for those in the know ion-exchanged proteins are rubbish...

[JamesMUSCLE]

imo the best gainer is: ON Serious Mass

- 1250 calories
- only 4.5g of fat
- 250g carbs
- only 20g sugar
- 50g protein

and you can split it up in half and add a scoop of whey and you still will get 600 calories, roughly 50g protein and 125g carbs.

[joe11036]

i am very skinny. i eat so much and work out but hardly gain any weight. What weight gainer is there that i can use to gain as much weight as i possibly can. I don't care if some of the weight is fat.

[simpleguy]

i am very skinny. i eat so much and work out but hardly gain any weight. What weight gainer is there that i can use to gain as much weight as i possibly can. I don't care if some of the weight is fat.

mcdonalds ;)

[JamesMUSCLE]

i am very skinny. i eat so much and work out but hardly gain any weight. What weight gainer is there that i can use to gain as much weight as i possibly can. I don't care if some of the weight is fat.

gallon of milk a day....or jst eat absolutely everyting in sight.

[C-HeavyWeight]

i agree, it a clean diet but, everything in that criteria EAT IT ALL. Feel like you don't do anything but eat!!!!!!! Then if you don't put on weight see an endocrinologist.

[spartan09]

I am considering buying a gainer for convenience, but does anybody have a good suggestion for what to put in a homemade gainer? I appreciate the advice!

[simpleguy]

I am considering buying a gainer for convenience, but does anybody have a good suggestion for what to put in a homemade gainer? I appreciate the advice!

oats, bananas, whey, cassein, peanut butter, milk (if you tolerate it)... blend

[LilJohn148]

Hmm...I used Muscle Juice 10.45lb Tub back in the day when I was 15, and I noticed gains from it. Strawberry wasn't bad tasting.

Some of you might say, oh no, it's disgusting, it has too much sugar, not enough protein, blah blah, but this **** works.

I tried Mass XXX which has less sugars, about the same calories, and more protein, but I finished the 6lb tub with 0 gains.

The Muscle Juice, is insane. I got Cookies and Creme 5lbs, and I went from 132 to 150 in about a months time. It definitely wasn't all fat as I still have a low BF and I have noticed gains.

The only bad thing is that it doesn't have enough protein, so I'm ordering ON 5lb Protein.

Oats, Peanut Butter, Milk, 2 scoops of MJ Chocolate and some cinnanom can do great protein bars, crap load of calories shakes, and pudding.

I can also do strawberry banana shakes with the ON Whey with real strawberries and oats and sugar and that will be bomb aswell. I hope to hit 175 by Christmas.
John

[trkulja.igor]

ON Pro Complex Gainer - 15 pounds in little over a month. It tastes good too.

[Synny]

ON Pro Complex Gainer - 15 pounds in little over a month. It tastes good too.

Do most of you guys take your weight gainer after a workout?

ANd the guys taking ON Pro gainer, how many scoop at a time and how many times a day?

[AMillane7]

Do most of you guys take your weight gainer after a workout?

ANd the guys taking ON Pro gainer, how many scoop at a time and how many times a day?

I have 1 scoop an hour after breakfast in skim

or

2 (2/3 scoops) between meals

AWESOME product

[spartan09]

oats, bananas, whey, cassein, peanut butter, milk (if you tolerate it)... blend

sounds good. thanks!

[asalways]

I have ON Serious Mass I already gained like 5 lbs in 1.5 weeks. Serious mass is decent I have nothing to compare it too, but it seems to work the taste is mediocre.

My only problem is there is no way I can handle the full dose of two full scoops(when they say two scoops they mean it they are huge) so I divide it up in the day.

Also, after I do take 2 full scoops I feel somewhat sick and then I get extremely sleepy after taking it.

I mean sleepy I am normally knocked out 20 minutes immediately after taking it and I'm normally not someone would would get sleepy.
This is the thing with Excess Carbohydrates. They turn you sleepy. In addition to that, they can hamper your intestines too. I would consider two things for you. First, take ON serious mass, only how much you can handle easily without any jitters and second, take a good Acidophillus with it. A good choice would be NOW Gr8-Dophilus. Terrific Efficacy. This will ensure regularity.

[JTFisher79]

I just tried the up your mass fudge brownie and damn it is good. I don't even like chocolate anything that much and thought it was good. Plus it has the best ingredients. Thanks to x- mark-x for the recommendation

[thejoeman]

i took a look at this forum on weight gainers. i theen looked at the regular protein powder in my cupboard. most weight gain powders require 150 gram servings to ger 600 calories and 50 grams protein. the regulat prolab whey protein requires only 32 gram scoop to get 130 calories and 24 grams of protein. multiply this x 5 to equal the same serving size and i get 650 calories and 100 grams of protein. can you explain what the great deal is with wight gain powders over protein powder. possibly one might explain whether the actual size of the weighed product is different, gram for gram to the size of mound it would pile up to be? just trying to make sense of it all.

[AMillane7]

i took a look at this forum on weight gainers. i theen looked at the regular protein powder in my cupboard. most weight gain powders require 150 gram servings to ger 600 calories and 50 grams protein. the regulat prolab whey protein requires only 32 gram scoop to get 130 calories and 24 grams of protein. multiply this x 5 to equal the same serving size and i get 650 calories and 100 grams of protein. can you explain what the great deal is with wight gain powders over protein powder. possibly one might explain whether the actual size of the weighed product is different, gram for gram to the size of mound it would pile up to be? just trying to make sense of it all.

ya..and significantly less carbs and fat....

carbs, protein = 4cal/g
fat = 9cal/g

some fillers may waste space (water, flavoring etc) but not much

[asalways]

i took a look at this forum on weight gainers. i theen looked at the regular protein powder in my cupboard. most weight gain powders require 150 gram servings to ger 600 calories and 50 grams protein. the regulat prolab whey protein requires only 32 gram scoop to get 130 calories and 24 grams of protein. multiply this x 5 to equal the same serving size and i get 650 calories and 100 grams of protein. can you explain what the great deal is with wight gain powders over protein powder. possibly one might explain whether the actual size of the weighed product is different, gram for gram to the size of mound it would pile up to be? just trying to make sense of it all.
The difference is in the amount of carbohydrates. If you talk about Prolab, it has a weight gainer, namely N-Large II with 85 grams of carbohydrates and 52 grams of protein and 5 grams of fat in 152 grams, while as talking about Prolab Whey it has 24 grams of protein, 4 grams of carbs and 2 grams of fat in just 32 grams. Therein lies the difference. The amount of nutrients in it.

While as pure whey is simply a protein with small additions of carbs and fats, a weight is complete in all three respects.

[rucnne1]

ive read damn near every page took about 5 days. lol ive decided to go with True mass basically do to its low sugar/fat and being weight gainer product of the year.
whats the best flavor?

[CaptainScarlet]

CytoSport Muscle Milk-cookies 'N Cream flavor,taste great.
Only 4g of sugar but taste too sweet.

[MrSnappy]

I'm pretty new to the supplement world and one of my friends directed me to the GNC Mass XXX product. Any thoughts on this product or is there something better I could be taking?

[BLKMAMBA24]

ive taken a 10lbs bucket of quickmass
went from 133 to 150
highly recommend but i would keep doing cardio and hard abs unless you want some stomach fat.
i wana bulk up to 160, thinking of taking true mass, mutant mass didnt work and wouldnt mix if my life depended on it

[RippedRunner]

Whey won't throw on too many pounds, but it'll almost guarentee that most of those pounds are pure muscle. great way to bulk for all athletes.

[Isotonic]

Serious Mass.

[spartan09]

Most of the gainers people are posting use maltodextrin as the main source for calories, which causes a big spike in insulin levels. Just wondering if u take one of these, such as serious mass, pro complex gainer, or truemass, do u only take it post workout? I'd rather have something I can take at anytime during the day. When do u guys usually take your gainers?

[JTFisher79]

up your mass has no maltodextrin. I take that anytime during the day. Plus the fudge brownie is delicious

[spartan09]

up your mass has no maltodextrin. I take that anytime during the day. Plus the fudge brownie is delicious

Yep, I know which is why i recently bought a tub of it. But so many people on here are saying other stuff works better so that's why I was wondering what time of day do they take their gainers. I know Up Your MASS can be taken anytime of the day which i think is a big plus

[JTFisher79]

what I do it take up your mass once during the day and then another gainer that has maltodextrin pwo like musclejuice. It has the most caloroes plus a ton of bcaas and glutamine