Best Overall Weight Gainer?

[skinny ee]

i have taking real gains so far so good.

[ezrollin]

so these weight gainers are more intended to be taken POST WO instead of.. at any time (because of simple carbs, sugars, Dextrose, etc...)
ya why didnt you tell me that BEFORE I became obeese?

[Blue Blazer]

so these weight gainers are more intended to be taken POST WO instead of.. at any time (because of simple carbs, sugars, Dextrose, etc...)
ya why didnt you tell me that BEFORE I became obeese?

Dude you can take a gainer any time you want...Alot of gainers are high in fats, so taking those pwo isn't a good idea...(muscle juice for example)

Like I said, I take mine between breakfeast and lunch (9:30) and between lunch and dinner (3:30)

Muscle Juice for the win

[dizzuque]

cyto gainer is great. i saw gains pretty quickly. The thing that sucks though is that i go through a container pretty quickly. only lasts me a week.

[ezrollin]

Dude you can take a gainer any time you want...Alot of gainers are high in fats, so taking those pwo isn't a good idea...(muscle juice for example)



Someone has YET to explain why taking fat POST WO is bad?
link?
k thx bi :)

[CanadianMoose]

Food ,Food and more Food!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[platnm]

Dude you can take a gainer any time you want...Alot of gainers are high in fats, so taking those pwo isn't a good idea...(muscle juice for example)

Like I said, I take mine between breakfeast and lunch (9:30) and between lunch and dinner (3:30)

Muscle Juice for the win

Weight gainers are made to be taken Post WO, thats why they are high in fats etc, because thats when your body needs it most not during the middle of the day. I like to make my own weight gainer shakes because it's cheaper and probably a bit healthier.

[super man12345]

Allmax Quickmass and PVL Mutant Mass are good. Fats after your workout slowdown the digestion of your carbs and protein. Id use half a serving in between a meal and another in between another meal and regular whey after workout with fast acting carbs

[ronPaul]

i take cytogainer 1hr before workout and then maybe 4hrs after workout

I do this to ensure carb availability during workout

am I doing something wrong?

[CanadianMoose]

Eat food! Lots of food! so many of you guys rely on sups when you should be eating food!

[DAVEZILLA]

I like real gains from universal. I use as a meal replacement more then a weight gainer

[Blue Blazer]

Someone has YET to explain why taking fat POST WO is bad?
link?
k thx bi :)

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=272067 Here read this, you might just learn something, fats pwo is a no no


Weight gainers are made to be taken Post WO, thats why they are high in fats etc, because thats when your body needs it most not during the middle of the day. I like to make my own weight gainer shakes because it's cheaper and probably a bit healthier.

Not all weight gainers are designed to be pwo, I am sick of hearing people say this, look I've done my share of research on gainers, I've tried a few different ones, I've read labels, threads, articles, ETC and NO what you said is pure BULL Not all gainers are made to be taken pwo, some say take one or two during the day and one pwo, depending on your diet and goals...

Most of them suggest different times....but following the label imo is not always the smart thing to do...I think we all know what companies like cytosport, ultimate nutrition, etc all want...they want our money, whether we get results or not, well they could probobly care less

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=272067

Read this and you'll see what you said is completely false, you don't need fat pwo, your body doesn't need fats at all pwo


Allmax Quickmass and PVL Mutant Mass are good. Fats after your workout slowdown the digestion of your carbs and protein. Id use half a serving in between a meal and another in between another meal and regular whey after workout with fast acting carbs

You don't want to slow down the digestion of your carbs and protein pwo and as far as quickmass and mutant mass go, I've tried them both, did gain a bit of weight with them, but they are not that great of gainers, there's much better out there, and never listen to the guy at gnc telling you quickmass or mutant mass is the best, I've been told this by many gnc salesmen, hell just for fun, I went to a few random gnc's just to see what they recommended, they all said those 2, because they want to get them out of the store as fast as possible..

Again, read this: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=272067


Eat food! Lots of food! so many of you guys rely on sups when you should be eating food!

I hate it when people come into this section and say idiotic **** like this, I do NOT rely on supplements, you can see for yourself by checking the actual supps I take, pretty basic, a gainer, fish oil, multi and creatine mono

I eat get in 4k a day, so no need to tell me I don't eat enough


I like real gains from universal. I use as a meal replacement more then a weight gainer

Which is fine, I do the same with Muscle Juice, although if I was taking Universal real gains, I'd probobly take a full serving of it pwo and maybe another sometime in the day, because it is low in fats unlike Muscle Juice

My god I can't get over all the guys saying fats are good pwo, my god where the hell did you guys hear this? Honestly, I've always been told the exact opposite by some smart members, by strong articles written by the likes of Layne Norton, etc

Muscle Juice ftw

[AMillane7]

Muscle Juice ftw

exactly

[IntellectMusc]

GNC Mass XXX i think is amazing, i haven't taken it for quite some time but when i did i loved the stuff!

[super man12345]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=272067 Here read this, you might just learn something, fats pwo is a no no



Not all weight gainers are designed to be pwo, I am sick of hearing people say this, look I've done my share of research on gainers, I've tried a few different ones, I've read labels, threads, articles, ETC and NO what you said is pure BULL Not all gainers are made to be taken pwo, some say take one or two during the day and one pwo, depending on your diet and goals...

Most of them suggest different times....but following the label imo is not always the smart thing to do...I think we all know what companies like cytosport, ultimate nutrition, etc all want...they want our money, whether we get results or not, well they could probobly care less

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=272067

Read this and you'll see what you said is completely false, you don't need fat pwo, your body doesn't need fats at all pwo



You don't want to slow down the digestion of your carbs and protein pwo and as far as quickmass and mutant mass go, I've tried them both, did gain a bit of weight with them, but they are not that great of gainers, there's much better out there, and never listen to the guy at gnc telling you quickmass or mutant mass is the best, I've been told this by many gnc salesmen, hell just for fun, I went to a few random gnc's just to see what they recommended, they all said those 2, because they want to get them out of the store as fast as possible..

Again, read this: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=272067



I hate it when people come into this section and say idiotic **** like this, I do NOT rely on supplements, you can see for yourself by checking the actual supps I take, pretty basic, a gainer, fish oil, multi and creatine mono

I eat get in 4k a day, so no need to tell me I don't eat enough



Which is fine, I do the same with Muscle Juice, although if I was taking Universal real gains, I'd probobly take a full serving of it pwo and maybe another sometime in the day, because it is low in fats unlike Muscle Juice

My god I can't get over all the guys saying fats are good pwo, my god where the hell did you guys hear this? Honestly, I've always been told the exact opposite by some smart members, by strong articles written by the likes of Layne Norton, etc

Muscle Juice ftw

I didnt say it was good to eat fats post workout. I said it slows down the absorption of your protein and carbs which clearly isn,t wanted. I said have them between meals not post workout, and have regular whey post workout

[FWCMuZiK]

what weight gainer mixes good with water?

[Austin109]

true mass and cytogainer do, know that for a fact

[sl4nd3r]

GNC Mass XXX i think is amazing, i haven't taken it for quite some time but when i did i loved the stuff!

Umm no. The GNC stuff is absolutely horrible. That was actually the first weight gainer I tried, doesn't mix well, expensive, lasted me about 4 days... need I go on?

On another note, I finished my first 11lb tub of muscle juice, was fantastic, but I was a little concerned with the 18g of fat and sat fat so I ordered some ON Serious Mass. Will follow up and let it be known how that stuff works for me at a later time.

[Universal Rep]

I like real gains from universal. I use as a meal replacement more then a weight gainer

That you can do...

[JeffZelaya]

Pro-Complex Gainer


High Quality

If you can afford it go for it!

[Syphon5]

I can personally tell the difference between "GNC or Vitaminee Shop" brand compared to brand name. Usually the mix is worse or the flavor.

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[ftballfrk101]

i have used three weight gainers so far, mass xxx, serious mass, and weight gainer gold. Out of the three i would have to recommend mass xxx, because it contains the most calories in one then any other weight gainer i believe. Also mass xxx doesnt make you bloated, and the cookies and cream flavor isn't to bad. Finally its cheap too, and only requires one scoop for the 1000 calories you recieve.

[ftballfrk101]

i believe mass xxx is the best weight gainer b/c its cheap taste pretty good and doesnt make you bloated. also in one scoop you get 1000 calories

[ezrollin]

actually muscle juice has more calories but its worse... it has more sugar.
but yea, I've finished 2 tubs of muscle juice and 1 mass XXX and would rather have mass XXX. but muscle juice dissolves WAY easier and the chocolate tastes better than mass XXX vanilla IMHO

[DarkGrey]

I'm still a pretty avid Muscle Milk guy.

Especially since GNc had the $47 tubs marked down to $12, got three of them.

[Eat-n-Lift]

cyto gainer is great. i saw gains pretty quickly. The thing that sucks though is that i go through a container pretty quickly. only lasts me a week.

Try just spliting up the serving, just use 2 scoops instead of 4.

[badass76ta]

i agree with blue blazer. anyways ive took some gnc weightgainers and they suck, you HAVE TO use a blender to mix and they are UNHEALTHY, taste like **** also. use prolab Nlarge 2 and it mixes well not the best it does mix ok, taste ok also, but i personally didnt see much gains. cytosport muscle milk not a gainer but a protein supp which is AWESOME , it mixes easy 10 of 10 . i would take it like 1 hour before workout and i actually FELT strength gains as much or more than when i tried creatine. now the last i used is cytogainer. i cant really leave this product, i always keep running back to. since i started taking 1 hour before workouts it really helped with gains. i usually take 4 scoops after a workout and 2 in the mourning and 2 before workout. the bad thing is its high in colestorol so watch yourself. anywas RONPAUL you should take in your shake withing 30 minutes after your workout

[Austin109]

Umm no. The GNC stuff is absolutely horrible. That was actually the first weight gainer I tried, doesn't mix well, expensive, lasted me about 4 days... need I go on?

On another note, I finished my first 11lb tub of muscle juice, was fantastic, but I was a little concerned with the 18g of fat and sat fat so I ordered some ON Serious Mass. Will follow up and let it be known how that stuff works for me at a later time.

make a log bro

[dan92]

Does anyone know if Maximuscles Progain is any good?

[kcinnitram91]

I like Real gains. I start my day off with one when gaining size.

1 serving Real Gains
about 16 oz milk
1 bannana
2 tbsp natty PB
3 whole eggs

Fuel for the body!

[vdog28]

I've been taking Enormass from Body Fuel for 8 weeks and put on almost 10lbs! No bloating what so ever...I love this stuff! Has hydrolyzed rolled oats and rice syrup. I best thing about it is that its timed released.....feeds your muscles up to 5 hours, no to mention the taste is out of hand!!

[greggers_222]

hey i'm an athelete from AUS i was wondering what your take on NaNo Vapor is? does it really work while busting out massive workouts?

[ezrollin]

um, no

[greggers_222]

thanks

[redsox03]

Real Gains Ftmfw!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wicked_Edge]

Real Gains Ftmfw!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree, it's by far the best weight gainer I've seen.

High carbs (including maltodextrine) with equal high whey and soy protein, glutamine, BCAAs and really low sugar. Can't remember anything else you can ask for in a weight gainer.

[keelymandat]

I've been on Cyto Gainer ever since I started lifting, and while it put on 30 lbs in a year, I have plateaued at 195 and can't seem to put on any more pounds, and it has been 6 months! Any suggestions?

i plateaued at about 165lbs, after 5 months......i tried increasing my calories and uping my carbs alittle....now im 181lbs 3 months later....

[Blue Blazer]

I agree, it's by far the best weight gainer I've seen.High carbs (including maltodextrine) with equal high whey and soy protein, glutamine, BCAAs and really low sugar. Can't remember anything else you can ask for in a weight gainer.Soy protein = **** haha
i plateaued at about 165lbs, after 5 months......i tried increasing my calories and uping my carbs alittle....now im 181lbs 3 months later....Same thing happened to me except it wasn't for 5 months, more like 3...

[tbo27]

ok. im tired of not gaining.

ive been through 2 tubs of cytogainer, and its just not working very well for me. in 2 tubs ive gained about 2 lbs.

i DO have a good lifting routine, and i know thats not it. however i dont eat as much as i should some days to gain, just cuz im in college and its hard to go to my schools ****ty cafeteria 4 or 5 times a day.

i want a gainer that is going to ADD WEIGHT FAST. i dont care if it adds fat as well.. i have like 5 percent body fat, so i need it anyway. im just tired of being small. i started lifting seriously about 6 months ago, and people always tell me they can definitely tell a difference, but im still tired of being light.

so. whats a god damn gainer thats gonna pack on weight if i dont care about fat content or any of that other stuff. i need the calories and i need the protein. and a lot of it.

[Rigit23]

ok. im tired of not gaining.

ive been through 2 tubs of cytogainer, and its just not working very well for me. in 2 tubs ive gained about 2 lbs.

i DO have a good lifting routine, and i know thats not it. however i dont eat as much as i should some days to gain, just cuz im in college and its hard to go to my schools ****ty cafeteria 4 or 5 times a day.

i want a gainer that is going to ADD WEIGHT FAST. i dont care if it adds fat as well.. i have like 5 percent body fat, so i need it anyway. im just tired of being small. i started lifting seriously about 6 months ago, and people always tell me they can definitely tell a difference, but im still tired of being light.

so. whats a god damn gainer thats gonna pack on weight if i dont care about fat content or any of that other stuff. i need the calories and i need the protein. and a lot of it.

Eat food. Don't rely on weight gainers, most of them have crappy ingredients anyways

[Austin109]

we are talking about weight gainer shakes and which is the best. we know food is the best but some of us have very fast metabolisms and cant eat enough to gain and shakes are the only way. everyone in here harping about how food is the best needs to shut the hell up

[ZDub212]

we are talking about weight gainer shakes and which is the best. we know food is the best but some of us have very fast metabolisms and cant eat enough to gain and shakes are the only way. everyone in here harping about how food is the best needs to shut the hell up

Food is the best. I guarantee you most people aren't trying hard enough to eat calorically dense foods.

Seriously though...wholeish food weight gainers are the way to go...

2 scoops of whey - 200 - 240
12 oz of milk - 135 - 195
1 cup of oats - 300
2 tbsp of pb - 200

That'll get you for 835 - 1000kcal and over 75g of protein...

[Hostage]

weight gainers.....damn haven't taken one of those in years. How's the taste with those...because back in the day it was like drinking wet cement.

[Blue Blazer]

Eat food. Don't rely on weight gainers, most of them have crappy ingredients anyways

Well you're right about one thing but wrong about another, the guy who posted above sounds like he's relying on the gainers, wrong thing to do, you also need to eat food, but you're wrong when saying gainers are crap...


we are talking about weight gainer shakes and which is the best. we know food is the best but some of us have very fast metabolisms and cant eat enough to gain and shakes are the only way. everyone in here harping about how food is the best needs to shut the hell up

Don't even bother trying to convince the troll gainers are good, we always have the occasional "weight gainers are bad eat food" troll come around...


Food is the best. I guarantee you most people aren't trying hard enough to eat calorically dense foods.

Seriously though...wholeish food weight gainers are the way to go...

2 scoops of whey - 200 - 240
12 oz of milk - 135 - 195
1 cup of oats - 300
2 tbsp of pb - 200

That'll get you for 835 - 1000kcal and over 75g of protein...

Nothing wrong with what your saying, homemade gainers are good, but nothing wrong with a real gainer neither, I take muscle juice and it's great, and one important thing is the convience factor, I don't need to dig up 3-5 things, blend them ,etc...

BTW, I think you may want to modify your gainer, 75 grams of protein in one shot isn't the greatest idea...keep it around 50-60 grams, no more

[ZDub212]

Nothing wrong with what your saying, homemade gainers are good, but nothing wrong with a real gainer neither, I take muscle juice and it's great, and one important thing is the convience factor, I don't need to dig up 3-5 things, blend them ,etc...

BTW, I think you may want to modify your gainer, 75 grams of protein in one shot isn't the greatest idea...keep it around 50-60 grams, no more

Can anyone find me one store bought weight gainer with a quality protein blend and no maltodextrin?

With homemade gainers you can adjust the macros however you want...can't do that with storebought. Yeah they're SLIGHTLY more convenient, but how hard is it to go BAM whey, BAM oats, BAM milk in a blender and done?

Also, most gainers are pure sugar, or pure HIGH gi carbs...and almost certainly too many. 85-100g of carbs in between meals?

[tbo27]

Im not relying on gainers.. i know how important food is and i try to eat whatevers in my schools cafeteria that has the most protein, complex carbs and overall calories.

BUT i still want a gainer thats gonna add. Blue blazer.. you say youre on muscle juice? i'm thinking about trying it next... just not too sure about the high sugar content, but its not really a big concern for me right now.

has it been working well for you..?

[ZDub212]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/rtn/massbuilder.html

Best weight gainer on the market most likely.

[Paradoxical_Nihilism]

i LOVE realgains, i kinda hit a wall at 165, and im up to 171 now in a month (mostly muscle) from adding some Realgains +PB +banana shakes (one serving a day basically) plus it tastes damn good and is relatively cheap

[trackguy]

i used the vitamin shop brand called "body tech x mass" back in februrary and in about 3 weeks i had packed on about 14 lbs of nice lean mass. I had a shake every night with bannanas and natural pb around midnight after i had spent the day eating everything i could. I think its agreat deal, you get a 7.5lb tub for $30 which is 20 servings they say. just my opinion take it or leave it.

[Austin109]

i used the vitamin shop brand called "body tech x mass" back in februrary and in about 3 weeks i had packed on about 14 lbs of nice lean mass. I had a shake every night with bannanas and natural pb around midnight after i had spent the day eating everything i could. I think its agreat deal, you get a 7.5lb tub for $30 which is 20 servings they say. just my opinion take it or leave it.

if you packed on 14lbs in 3 weeks i guarantee you it wasnt lean. its a physical impossibility even with roids.

[Blue Blazer]

Im not relying on gainers.. i know how important food is and i try to eat whatevers in my schools cafeteria that has the most protein, complex carbs and overall calories.

BUT i still want a gainer thats gonna add. Blue blazer.. you say youre on muscle juice? i'm thinking about trying it next... just not too sure about the high sugar content, but its not really a big concern for me right now.

has it been working well for you..?

Dude no need to worry about sugars, cholesterol or anything at your size haha, you want to get big?

Take muscle juice and eat like a f*cking greak, pretend as if you weren't even taking the muscle juice in a way haha

Dude, eat burgers, chicken, tuna, bread lots and lots, pasta, peanut butter, milk, cheese, just f*cking overload yourself with food and on top of that take a gainer like muscle juice

Muscle Juice works great and delivers results, no bullsh!t, it looks like the worst gainer on the market, but it works so well it's unbelievable, I've gained little to no fat while taking it

[Blue Blazer]

Can anyone find me one store bought weight gainer with a quality protein blend and no maltodextrin?

With homemade gainers you can adjust the macros however you want...can't do that with storebought. Yeah they're SLIGHTLY more convenient, but how hard is it to go BAM whey, BAM oats, BAM milk in a blender and done?

Also, most gainers are pure sugar, or pure HIGH gi carbs...and almost certainly too many. 85-100g of carbs in between meals?

For starters, when bulking eating squeaky clean doesn't deliver the greatest results...example: if a guy is only eating egg whites, chicken, tuna and oatmeal on his bulk, well I feel bad for him, because he's not going to gain

You've got to eat lots of ground beef, steaks, chicken, tuna, bread lots and lots of bread, pasta, oatmeal, peanut butter, potatoes, protein shakes, canola or any kind of oil to get in extra fats

I agree with you 100 percent of the homemade gainer thing, because I do it myself everyday, I have one homemade gainer shake everyday, but it is my pwo shake, but on non lifting days I add pb for fats

250ml of oats
2 scoops of whey
2-3tbs of pb on non lifting days

"85-100g of carbs in between meals"

When you said this it really made me laugh, you contradicted yourself in a way

You said to add a cup of oats (also said it gives you 300cals, gives me 450)
A cup of oats for me gives 81 grams of carbs..and you said gainers give you too much carbs?

Tell me what is wrong with getting 80 grams of carbs in one shot...seems to be fine

Anyway dude, I don't appreciate when guys run their mouths about gainers being no good and that eating food is better, blah blah, it is trollish to the max

Muscle Juice for the f*ckin' win!

[ZDub212]

For starters, when bulking eating squeaky clean doesn't deliver the greatest results...example: if a guy is only eating egg whites, chicken, tuna and oatmeal on his bulk, well I feel bad for him, because he's not going to gain

You've got to eat lots of ground beef, steaks, chicken, tuna, bread lots and lots of bread, pasta, oatmeal, peanut butter, potatoes, protein shakes, canola or any kind of oil to get in extra fats

I agree with you 100 percent of the homemade gainer thing, because I do it myself everyday, I have one homemade gainer shake everyday, but it is my pwo shake, but on non lifting days I add pb for fats

250ml of oats
2 scoops of whey
2-3tbs of pb on non lifting days

"85-100g of carbs in between meals"

When you said this it really made me laugh, you contradicted yourself in a way

You said to add a cup of oats (also said it gives you 300cals, gives me 450)
A cup of oats for me gives 81 grams of carbs..and you said gainers give you too much carbs?

Tell me what is wrong with getting 80 grams of carbs in one shot...seems to be fine

Anyway dude, I don't appreciate when guys run their mouths about gainers being no good and that eating food is better, blah blah, it is trollish to the max

Muscle Juice for the f*ckin' win!

Complex carbs are not "less anabolic" then high gi carbs. Can you prove that high gi carbs and sugar are more anabolic? Someone's not going to gain on egg whites/oats/chicken breasts...are you serious?

Come on man, don't make claims like this. Sugar is not more anabolic than anything, and just cramming your face with garbage is not the best way to gain. You are 16 and can eat more without worrying about fat gain (apparently)...others are not so lucky.

A cup of oats gives you 81g of carbs? Where do you get your oats from man? It's more like 54g man...you get quaker?

How did I contradict myself? You're telling people to use weight gainers in addition to/in between meals as do most weight gainer instructions.

Don't you dare call me a ****ing troll.

[Hola Bola]

Here are a couple I like, in no particular order...

CytoSport Cytogainer (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cs/gainer.html) - $36 for 6lbs, 18 servings per container, 570 cals per serving.
Fat - 6g (?)
Carbs - 75g (CytoCarb II?(CytoSport's Unique Combination Of Branching As Well As Long Linear Chain Maltodextrins With Very Low "DE" (Dextrose Equivalence) Providing A Complex Source Approximately 96.5% Sugar-Free)
Protein - 54g (Whey Protein Concentrate, Whey Protein Hydrolysate)

SportPharma GAIN Max (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sport/gainmax.html) - $30 for 6lbs, 16 servings per container, 653 cals per serving.
Fat - 5g (?)
Carbs - 102g (Maltodextrin, Waxy Maize, Trehalose, D-Glucose)
Protein - 50g (Whey Protein Concentrate [Milk], Egg Albumin, Calcium Caseinate, Whey Protein Hydrolysate)

CNP Professional ProPeptide MBF (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dya/prombf.html) - $33 for 5lbs, 15-16 servings per container, 550 cals per serving.
Fat - 5g (Sunflower Oil, Medium Chain Triglycerides, Lecithin, Omega 3 Fatty Acids)
Carbs - 84g (Polymerized Glucose, Maltodextrin, Rice Starch, Tapioca Starch, Potato Starch)
Protein - 42g (Milk Protein Cultured With Bifidus, Acidophilus, Yogurt Organisms, Whey Protein From Concentrate And Isolate, Peptide Bonded Glutamine, Egg White, Hydrolyzed Whey Protein)

MHP Up Your Mass (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/mass.html) - $33 for 5lbs, 17 servings, 510 cals per serving.
Fat - 11g (Safflower Oil, Corn Syrup Solids, Medium Chain Triglycerides, Essential Fatty Acid Blend [Borage Seed Oil Powder (10% GLA), Conjugated Linoleic Acid Complex (78% CLA), Evening Primrose Seed Oil (4.8% GLA), Flaxseed Powder (8% ALA), And Omega-3 Complex (7.5% EPA & DHA)
Carbs - 58g (Barley, Oats, Oat Fiber)
Protein - 46g (Supro? Soy Protein Isolate (With Calcium Phosphate, And Lecithin), Calcium Caseinate, Whey Protein Concentrate, Leucine, Isoleucine, Valine)

Universal Real Gains (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/real.html) - $32 for 6.85lbs, 21 servings, 610 cals per serving.
Fat - 6g (Flaxseed Oil, MCT)
Carbs - 87g (Maltodextrin, Dutch Processed Cocoa)
Protein - 52g (Ultra Filtered Whey (Milk) Concentrate, Micellar Casein, Whey Protein Isolate, Calcium Caseinate)


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/rtn/massbuilder.html

Best weight gainer on the market most likely.

Thanks for the link... I might have to give that one a shot! :)

[tbo27]

Dude no need to worry about sugars, cholesterol or anything at your size haha, you want to get big?

Take muscle juice and eat like a f*cking greak, pretend as if you weren't even taking the muscle juice in a way haha

Dude, eat burgers, chicken, tuna, bread lots and lots, pasta, peanut butter, milk, cheese, just f*cking overload yourself with food and on top of that take a gainer like muscle juice

Muscle Juice works great and delivers results, no bullsh!t, it looks like the worst gainer on the market, but it works so well it's unbelievable, I've gained little to no fat while taking it

Thanks for the info, i think i'll try it out. it was either that or real gains in my mind, but ill give muscle juice a shot.

I think ill also get some whey protein and mix it with oats for the mornings. which whey do you use.. gnc?

[musclegto]

hmmm

[Blue Blazer]

Ok let's pick your idiotic post apart piece by piece lol

"Complex carbs are not "less anabolic" then high gi carbs. Can you prove that high gi carbs and sugar are more anabolic? "

I didn't say this anywhere in my post, and in case this isn't enough, no I don't think sugars and high gi carbs are more anabolic, and once more, I DID NOT SAY THAT ANYWHERE IN MY LAST POST!

"Someone's not going to gain on egg whites/oats/chicken breasts...are you serious?"
I still stand by this, when bulking, eating egg yolks along with whites, eating lots of ground beef and steaks along with chicken, bread, pasta, etc

All of this will make you gain..btw I am not hating on chicken, whites and oats, these are things I eat about everyday...

"Come on man, don't make claims like this. Sugar is not more anabolic than anything"

Once again I did not say this, where the f*ck did I say this for you to repeat it twice...

"and just cramming your face with garbage is not the best way to gain.

For the record Zdub and everyone else reading, I don't cram my face with garbage, unless in Zdub's book, garbage = ground beef, whole eggs, natty pb, oats, ww bread, whole grain pasta, tuna, cod fish, salmon, lobster, crab (basically anything from the sea lol, because I live on the East side of Canada and my small town has plenty of it, good quality too)

"You are 16 and can eat more without worrying about fat gain (apparently)...others are not so lucky."

Well Zdub, what you said there is somewhat true, I have been an ecto all my life and have a fairly high metabolism and still do some cardio exercises during the week (martial arts 2x per week, in other words 2-4 hours)

"A cup of oats gives you 81g of carbs? Where do you get your oats from man? It's more like 54g man...you get quaker?"

http://www.robinhood.ca/product.details.asp?pid=88&prodcid=10

Prepare to be amazed...steel cut oats I believe, though it isn't written anywhere on the bag, but last night I googled quaker's steel cut oats and they had the same nutritional facts as the robin hood ones I just posted...So I am assuming the Robin hood oats are steel cut.

"How did I contradict myself? You're telling people to use weight gainers in addition to/in between meals as do most weight gainer instructions."

I assumed your oats were the same as mine so I thought you had about 81+ grams of carbs in your homemade gainer shakes, but now I know you have the regular oats, I recommend you make the switch and get steel cut, especially if you're bulking...

"Don't you dare call me a ****ing troll"

Anyone who comes in the gainer section implying that we are all morons wasting our money on such products and are better off just eating real food, etc is trollish in my book

Do you go in the protein bar section and tell them all the bars s*ck and to make their own?

Do you go in the Meal Replacement thread and tell them to make their own meal replacement shakes?

Do you go in the creatine thread and tell them to just eat alot of red meat?

If so, you are an incompetent f*ck

Gainers ftw!

[ZDub212]

Let's pick apart your ****ing dumbass post shall we?

For starters, when bulking eating squeaky clean doesn't deliver the greatest results...example: if a guy is only eating egg whites, chicken, tuna and oatmeal on his bulk, well I feel bad for him, because he's not going to gain

RIGHT HERE YOU JUST SAID YOU'RE >>NOT<< GOING TO GAIN ON LEAN PROTEINS AND COMPLEX CARBS. HE'S NOT GOING TO GAIN>>>YOUR WORDS.

When you said this it really made me laugh, you contradicted yourself in a way

You said to add a cup of oats (also said it gives you 300cals, gives me 450)
A cup of oats for me gives 81 grams of carbs..and you said gainers give you too much carbs?

You didn't ****ing specify steel cut oats or not...k? Thanks.

Anyway dude, I don't appreciate when guys run their mouths about gainers being no good and that eating food is better, blah blah, it is trollish to the max

Muscle Juice for the f*ckin' win!

You're telling people to drink muscle juice which is full of sugar...you're saying that you'll gain by using that, you ARE claiming sugar to be good for your bulk.


Ok let's pick your idiotic post apart piece by piece lol

"Complex carbs are not "less anabolic" then high gi carbs. Can you prove that high gi carbs and sugar are more anabolic? "

I didn't say this anywhere in my post, and in case this isn't enough, no I don't think sugars and high gi carbs are more anabolic, and once more, I DID NOT SAY THAT ANYWHERE IN MY LAST POST!

"Someone's not going to gain on egg whites/oats/chicken breasts...are you serious?"
I still stand by this, when bulking, eating egg yolks along with whites, eating lots of ground beef and steaks along with chicken, bread, pasta, etc

All of this will make you gain..btw I am not hating on chicken, whites and oats, these are things I eat about everyday...

Actually, you explicitly said that you wouldn't gain on those things...

"Come on man, don't make claims like this. Sugar is not more anabolic than anything"

Once again I did not say this, where the f*ck did I say this for you to repeat it twice...

"and just cramming your face with garbage is not the best way to gain.

For the record Zdub and everyone else reading, I don't cram my face with garbage, unless in Zdub's book, garbage = ground beef, whole eggs, natty pb, oats, ww bread, whole grain pasta, tuna, cod fish, salmon, lobster, crab (basically anything from the sea lol, because I live on the East side of Canada and my small town has plenty of it, good quality too)

"You are 16 and can eat more without worrying about fat gain (apparently)...others are not so lucky."

Well Zdub, what you said there is somewhat true, I have been an ecto all my life and have a fairly high metabolism and still do some cardio exercises during the week (martial arts 2x per week, in other words 2-4 hours)

"A cup of oats gives you 81g of carbs? Where do you get your oats from man? It's more like 54g man...you get quaker?"

http://www.robinhood.ca/product.details.asp?pid=88&prodcid=10

Prepare to be amazed...steel cut oats I believe, though it isn't written anywhere on the bag, but last night I googled quaker's steel cut oats and they had the same nutritional facts as the robin hood ones I just posted...So I am assuming the Robin hood oats are steel cut.

"How did I contradict myself? You're telling people to use weight gainers in addition to/in between meals as do most weight gainer instructions."

I assumed your oats were the same as mine so I thought you had about 81+ grams of carbs in your homemade gainer shakes, but now I know you have the regular oats, I recommend you make the switch and get steel cut, especially if you're bulking...

"Don't you dare call me a ****ing troll"

Anyone who comes in the gainer section implying that we are all morons wasting our money on such products and are better off just eating real food, etc is trollish in my book

When did I do this? Show me where I implied you are all fools and morons. Show me. Also, I found a good gainer and posted the link. Thanks.

Do you go in the protein bar section and tell them all the bars s*ck and to make their own?

Actually I have although there are some good ones out there that I DO recommend

Do you go in the Meal Replacement thread and tell them to make their own meal replacement shakes?

Actually I have although there are some good ones out there that I DO recommend

Do you go in the creatine thread and tell them to just eat alot of red meat?

Absurd, not even close to the same thing

If so, you are an incompetent f*ck

Gainers ftw!

The only incompetent person here is you. Thank you.

[Blue Blazer]

Thank you for replying in such a mature fashion lolI'll say it once more, to see some good results, eating proteins that aren't lean will do some good, ground beef, steaks, whole eggs, all great bulking foods, gains will be better...even idiots like you can agree on this lol

As far as muscle juice goes, what can I say? Muscle Juice delivers...you can ask just about anyone who's taken it and had a solid diet, they will tell you it works great...It has worked great for me, imo I find it strange that muscle juice works well...because it does look like the crappiest gainer ever...

Who can't agree with that? It really does look like a terrible gainer, but I can't say it is terrible because I have had excellent results with it...

And I know others who have had great gainers with it (member History In Effect) As far as the oats go, like I said I didn't know if they were steel cut or not, because it wasn't indicated on the bag, my apologies douchebag

[INGENIUM]

Anyway I have had enough argueing with a fat@ss, yeah you're fat, 20 percent bodyfat at 190, pathetic...

go back to the teen section with this BS

edit: strong neg :D

[Elliptical Envy]

go back to the teen section with this BS

edit: strong neg :D

Did he really neg you? :confused:

[INGENIUM]

Did he really neg you? :confused:
LOL...yep, and then he edited his post :p

[Elliptical Envy]

LOL...yep, and then he edited his post :p

What is with these low rep power people negging all the time?

[INGENIUM]

What is with these low rep power people negging all the time?
you have to admit, negging is fun :D

[Elliptical Envy]

you have to admit, negging is fun :D

I'll neg when I hit 7k. I have a while :(

[Blue Blazer]

go back to the teen section with this BS

edit: strong neg :D

Feel free to neg back lol...

[INGENIUM]

Feel free to neg back lol...
nahh, it's cool. I understand it was just your RUTHLESS AGGRESSION

[ireland100]

is real gains nice in banana flavour????

[Blue Blazer]

nahh, it's cool. I understand it was just your RUTHLESS AGGRESSION

My apologies bro, I hate it when people say gainers are crap and to just eat real food, sometimes I just need to state my opinion and stay respectful lol

[M1V8C2]

Only tried cytogainer. Can't really say its the best cause I have not tried any other weight gainers. CytoGainer is a great product though. I gained around 5-7 lbs and my bench went up from 215 x 8 to 230x8 in about 3 weeks. Good supplement for anyone wanting to gain mass for football.

[bigpoppas]

is real gains nice in banana flavour????

My buddy has used it before, said its a bit of an akward banana flavor, but said it was not bad.

BigPoppa

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[jenner01]

not a big fan of the banana flavor but the chocolate is good

[Hola Bola]

Thank you for replying in such a mature fashion lolI'll say it once more, to see some good results, eating proteins that aren't lean will do some good, ground beef, steaks, whole eggs, all great bulking foods, gains will be better...even idiots like you can agree on this lol

As far as muscle juice goes, what can I say? Muscle Juice delivers...you can ask just about anyone who's taken it and had a solid diet, they will tell you it works great...It has worked great for me, imo I find it strange that muscle juice works well...because it does look like the crappiest gainer ever...

Who can't agree with that? It really does look like a terrible gainer, but I can't say it is terrible because I have had excellent results with it...

And I know others who have had great gainers with it (member History In Effect) As far as the oats go, like I said I didn't know if they were steel cut or not, because it wasn't indicated on the bag, my apologies douchebag

I don't mean anything negative by this, but you're a noob. At your level anything will deliver as long as you lift. Noob gains... gotta love 'em.

[Blue Blazer]

I don't mean anything negative by this, but you're a noob.* At your level anything will deliver as long as you lift.* Noob gains...* gotta love 'em.True, I am a newb, but I've tried other gainers that didn't work nearly as well...

[INGENIUM]

My buddy has used it before, said its a bit of an akward banana flavor, but said it was not bad.

BigPoppa

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WTF is the deal with the red x's in all your posts?

[Roxie]

you have to admit, negging is fun :D

The reason you always seem to get a neg from me ;)

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

Food! :confused:


lol, just kidding, relax everyone.

But to be honest, I've never understood this whole category and yes I did experiment with them when I was a noob for a while. Just get a good protein supplement and bump up you calories that way. Who wants all those calories from simple carbs, which is what makes up a large portion of the calories from most weight gainers. I know many of us want to gain weight, but the impact a flood of all those carbs has on bodycomp, is not the type of weight I would think most of us want to gain, though correct me if I'm wrong.



I am open to hearing the rational behind weight gainers if there is a good one though.

[brandoppsx]

I love Cytogainer...They have really good flavors, and I think that the macros are pretty impressive...And normally you just can't beat the price of it either.

[ZDub212]

Thank you for replying in such a mature fashion lolI'll say it once more, to see some good results, eating proteins that aren't lean will do some good, ground beef, steaks, whole eggs, all great bulking foods, gains will be better...even idiots like you can agree on this lol

As far as muscle juice goes, what can I say? Muscle Juice delivers...you can ask just about anyone who's taken it and had a solid diet, they will tell you it works great...It has worked great for me, imo I find it strange that muscle juice works well...because it does look like the crappiest gainer ever...

Who can't agree with that? It really does look like a terrible gainer, but I can't say it is terrible because I have had excellent results with it...

And I know others who have had great gainers with it (member History In Effect) As far as the oats go, like I said I didn't know if they were steel cut or not, because it wasn't indicated on the bag, my apologies douchebag

You're the one that started with the insults and the immaturity.

Prove that gains are better with steak over chicken breasts...find me a study. I will go out and buy you a years supply of muscle juice if you can scientifically prove your statements.

I'm not telling others not to use gainers either...I'm just saying that I prefer homemade weight gainers...they're still gainers, but you control the macros and get to add fresh ingredients.

Yeah, ok, you can say they weren't on the bag, but to "laugh at my statements" when YOU were in the wrong and then call me a douchebag? Good for you.

And please look at my pictures before calling me a fatass. I'm 6ft 1.5" tall, 225lbs and definitely more built than you...I also haven't updated my stats, I'm not 20% BF. I obviously have been training for longer, so there's no doubt you will continue to grow if you're dedicated which I'm sure you are...but don't insult my physique, not only is it against forum rules, but it's a ****ing dumb thing to do.

[Blue Blazer]

Wow, you've made some excellent gains in the past few days, 225lbs and now 14 percent bodyfat...though I sincerely hope your lifts are much stronger than that at 225..

Thanks for the talk, we should do this again sometime, peace

[ZDub212]

Wow, you've made some excellent gains in the past few days, 225lbs and now 14 percent bodyfat..

Those stats haven't been updated for a long while...funny how you won't address anything else though...

[Blue Blazer]

Those stats haven't been updated for a long while...funny how you won't address anything else though...

Ok fine, let's talk chicken and steaks, dude I'm just posting what has worked for me, when I bulk, I like to get in lots of ground beef, steaks, but of course I eat alot of chicken, turkey, fish (tuna being something I eat atleast once a day)

I'm just saying, bulking has been easier for me when eating more ground beef and steaks...

BTW, nothing wrong with homemade gainers, like I told you, I make one a day everyday

[ZDub212]

Ok fine, let's talk chicken and steaks, dude I'm just posting what has worked for me, when I bulk, I like to get in lots of ground beef, steaks, but of course I eat alot of chicken, turkey, fish (tuna being something I eat atleast once a day)

I'm just saying, bulking has been easier for me when eating more ground beef and steaks...

BTW, nothing wrong with homemade gainers, like I told you, I make one a day everyday

You posted what works for you...that's fine, you did state it like a fact though, which is what I was arguing.

I have no "beef" (ha) with you, although I don't appreciate personal insults.

Everyone should always do what works for them, I just posted about the homemade stuff to save people some money and to try something new...that's all.

[Blue Blazer]

You posted what works for you...that's fine, you did state it like a fact though, which is what I was arguing.I have no "beef" (ha) with you, although I don't appreciate personal insults.Everyone should always do what works for them, I just posted about the homemade stuff to save people some money and to try something new...that's all.Well then I'm fine with that, as far as I am concerned, we have no beef with eachother

[rdakari]

I like Universal Real Gains and Optimum Pro Complex Gainer.

[Idontlikeit]

i been drinkin cytogainer everyday and need to take a **** at least once a day. this sucks because i am at school most of the time and dont ike to use the restroom at school so i have to hold it for couple hours..

[jocktheglide]

What is with these low rep power people negging all the time?

it makes them feel BIGGER.......

[TopBoyNow]

Im ****ed, Does anyone know where i can get Muscle juice from in the uk ...

my source has sold out and wont be getting anymore!!!!

Im upset now, so if someone has a source or knows where to buy them from.. Id appreciate it!

[JMOdk]

I really want to start Cyto Gainer, only thing is the 3g Creatine. I am already taking a creatine supplement. Might be too much of a good thing. Looking like Real Gains might be the alternative :/

[ahmaxmuscle]

I was using cytogainer until the I got a sample of EnorMass from BodyFuel(bodyfuelforlife.com) It is pretty much the exact same thing as cytogainer except that they use a blend of proteins so you get a 4 hour time release and it also uses timereleased carbs because they use 4 different kinds. The flavor tastes good too so I am going to try a whole tub. I will let you know

[redsox03]

Gained 2.5lbs last week after starting real gains again. When I took it before, 1lb a week (give or take) gained with it when I used it before.

[Universal Rep]

Gained 2.5lbs last week after starting real gains again. When I took it before, 1lb a week (give or take) gained with it when I used it before.

Sweet. Which flavor? My favorite is the strawberry. Real strawberry bits in it...

[ZDub212]

nahh, it's cool. I understand it was just your RUTHLESS AGGRESSION

You're a moderator now? And not a rep for MAN sports? Holy ****.

[kaysingh]

Maximsucle Progain and Cyclone :)

[redsox03]

Sweet. Which flavor? My favorite is the strawberry. Real strawberry bits in it...

I like chocolate.

[TopBoyNow]

Maximsucle Progain and Cyclone :)

Strong first post?

Their Products are over priced and a Bunch of Sh**

[BRUGGS99]

I Know This Doesnt Typically Fall In The Category Of "weight Gainer," But I Put On About 8 Lbs In 2 Weeks Taking A Product Called Tren (advertised As Hgh). You've Got To Take That Into Consideration Right???

[FreakinSupps]

Who sold you Tren under the guise of HGH? That stuff is a straight up progesterone PH... No HGH there but deffinately a size gainer! Other than that I just tasted some Enor-Mass and its pretty good. Beyond the taste tho its time release protien with a carb complex that has 4 diff carbs instead of only having that dinosar maltodextrin. Its got the creatine and glutamine just like cytogainer, but an amount you will actually use, I mean who's body here assimilates 54g of whey in 45 min? Not mine.

[deicide22]

i like to make my own. 1 cup oats, 2-4 tbs. natty pb, flax meal, 2eggs, 2egg whites, 1-2 scoops whey, about 16oz. whole milk. cheap, tasty and effective

[APD221]

To all those that keep replying with "EAT EAT EAT!!! Don't rely on supps!" What do you think I have been doing the last 29 years of my life? Eating, and it has failed in providing the results I desire. I eat until the point where my throat refuses to swallow another bite. Some of us were not gifted with the genetics of others. A 18-20 oz. shake that contains nearly 900cals per serving is much easier to down, especially with a meal that is the same size as before I started using the shakes. I've gained 8 lbs. in 2 and a half weeks. It is obviously working so I must be doing something right. This is not the nutrition forum... I do not have the time required to prepare, the patience, the funds, or any other means to eat steaks and potatoes twice a day every day. If you have a "Supplement" recommnedation, I would love to hear it as this is the "Supplement Wars" subsection. I will venture over to "Nutrition" if I want to clean up my diet. Let the flames begin.

[TheGainz]

I was taking the Cytogainer chocolate for a while until I learned that the 55g of protein they claim wasn't even getting absorbed because it only has whey protein in it. I switched to this new weight gainer called Enormass from Body Fuel and it taste really good. It taste better than nestle quick chocolate milk but most of all if has the whey proteins plus the slower digesting casiens and egg plus a good blend of complex carbs.

[THUNDER.]

ISOGAINER nutrabolics - king

[Sethaniel]

ENORMASS....no question about it. 2 scoops equals 600 calories...only 10g's of fat and 24 servings.

[Lakers24]

hey guys i bought isomass xtreme gainer today. i noticed it says that his has 7 grams of creatine in it. now my question is, do you get 7 grams of creatine per serving? (1 serving is 3 scoops btw)

[goldenglovez]

QUICKMASS ALLMAX.

From 160 to 180 in a month.

[arshah]

i've only tried cytogainer, and it seems to work well, and also tastes well

[AD337]

Strong first post?

Their Products are over priced and a Bunch of Sh**

rofl pwnd

..and I agree btw

[user_8dfg_kwjhe_kjwh]

First of all everybody is different. I gained 20 lbs of lean muscle mass off of cytogainer and it tastes great. If you are not eating 6-8 healthy lean meals a day then forget about getting big. With the glutamine and creatine in cytogainer it doubles up for an amazing product.

[Desert_Eagle]

Hey guys i've been using Muscle Juice for a while now (Only gainer I USED AND THE FIRST ONE) though I haven't been getting very good results with it. Is it because I don't drink the recommended serving 4 scoops (I take 3 scoops)? or is it because I don't drink it everyday? Though when I do workout (like 3 times per week) I always take it afterwards. Should I workout 5 times per week insted drinking 4 scoops afterwards?

Also I've been thinking about switching to quick mass, does anyone know if that'd be a good choice? Is quick mass better then muscle juice since quick mass has creatine in it?

Thanks in advance

[superman47]

anyone have any reviews on ABB's XXL protein/weight gainer? I just ordered some. Looked good to me

[CLP1]

Just finish going through 3 6lbs tub of cytogainer. Gained 5lbs in the first 2 weeks and barely anything after that. I think i started relying too much on it by drinking it to replace meals. I tried vanilla, chocolate mint, and strawberry flavors and i have to say chocolate mint is the best. Going to try Universal Real Gains next.

[AdrenalRush8o8]

im sure somebody has already posted this but, i have to say N-Large2 and Isomass extreme gainer by ultimate nutrition are good. Isomass will give you that full feeling and look but be careful, try to only drink it after a workout and before bed, dont use it as meal replacement because you will just add fat. i dunno currently on cytogainer only because the flavor is better, once i switched. ilost about 3 pounds.

[trboda7]

I have been on ON serious mass for 6 days now.. taking full servings 3x a day with milk about 1500 cal. Im also taking M5 creatine from cellucor.. I have gone from 154.2 to 160.2 in 6 days.. I dont know if this is all due to the serious mass though because i have been eating like an animal 6x's perday about 4k to 4500 cal's and drinking between 1/2 to 1 gallon of water. but there u go roughly 6lbs in 6 days. I want to see how much i can gain in 1month eating the way i am and staying on these supps i will post back after 1mnth. my calandar is marked.

[trboda7]

Eat food. Don't rely on weight gainers, most of them have crappy ingredients anyways

I second this.. Im eating like an animal and taking food as #1 priority.. im tired of being 5'11 and 150ish so im taking food very seriously but still taking my weight gainer 3xs perday hoping that it helps to my bulk.

[tbo27]

Just got my muscle juice yesterday. And people aren't kidding when they say it's sweet... but its not too bad. Just not like most other gainers. Kinda sucks because its been messing with my stomach quite a bit, but im hoping thats just because im sick right now.

But Ill keep track of my weight and post the difference when i'm done with the tub.

[AdrenalRush8o8]

I have been on ON serious mass for 6 days now.. taking full servings 3x a day with milk about 1500 cal. Im also taking M5 creatine from cellucor.. I have gone from 154.2 to 160.2 in 6 days.. I dont know if this is all due to the serious mass though because i have been eating like an animal 6x's perday about 4k to 4500 cal's and drinking between 1/2 to 1 gallon of water. but there u go roughly 6lbs in 6 days. I want to see how much i can gain in 1month eating the way i am and staying on these supps i will post back after 1mnth. my calandar is marked.

most of that is probably just fat, not to say your fat, but the amount of calories you are taking in, it would be impossible for it to be all muscle. trust me i gained 15 lbs in one month drinking a weight gainer 2x a day, but i think after stopping the weight gainer its only about 10lbs of muscle. just saying.

[Forced]

Gaining 6lbs in a week?? That's madness is it not?

One should target 2 lbs max per week, .... surely??

I wanna gain weight, sure, but not turn myself into an instant lardass.

I would think that a high carb protein would do the trick.

Your comments??

[trboda7]

most of that is probably just fat, not to say your fat, but the amount of calories you are taking in, it would be impossible for it to be all muscle. trust me i gained 15 lbs in one month drinking a weight gainer 2x a day, but i think after stopping the weight gainer its only about 10lbs of muscle. just saying.

yeah it is mostly fat but its fat i need.. im 5'11 1/2 close to 6feet. so 160 im still slim.. im hitting the weights lightly but still eating alot.. eventually i know i can turn it into muscle right now im just tired of being slim. I want a new frame..


Gaining 6lbs in a week?? That's madness is it not?

One should target 2 lbs max per week, .... surely??

I wanna gain weight, sure, but not turn myself into an instant lardass.

I would think that a high carb protein would do the trick.

Your comments??

lardlass.. lol nahh if you see me at 154-160 i look no different.. im currently doing massive ab work out to minimize it all going to my belly but like i said im building a new frame and just concentratin on being atleast 175-180 and working out along the way i know slowly but surely i'll turn it into muscle.. my ultimate goal is to be 195-200 by dec 25 as a xmas present to myself .. but i want to get to 170 quick and then gradually go up to the 180s and concentrate more on building muscle.. right now i need the fat.

[luisbutik]

Just got on it what do u guys think about this one?

[redsox03]

Just got on it what do u guys think about this one?

Garbage

[CLP1]

I don't know if anyone here have heard of IDS Smart Gainer but I bought it because it's the cheapest weight gainer i can find (10lbs for $38). Just tried it today and surprisingly its the best tasting weight gainer I have ever tried (Have tried 3 different flavors from cytogainer and 2 from real gains). It also mixes extremely well. The flavor of the smartgainer that i bought is strawberry banana.

[guinho]

Reflex Nutrition Instant Mass (ratio of 1:1 carbs/protein, complex carbs (oats)low GI)
MHP Up Your Mass

[and1bbaii7]

cytogainer is great if you have the $
muscle juice also works, VERY cheap but a little too much sugars

[kbessette]

biotest - surge .... it's a post workout drink, but it's helped me gain weight anyway.

[purts]

Universal Real Gains all the way for me. It's pretty cheap for its content. Here on BB.com 3.8 Lbs for 19.99$ (11 servings per container) or 6.85 Lbs. for 31.99$ (21 servings per container). Serving Size: 3.5 Scoops (155g)

Calories 610
Calories From Fat 53
Total Fat 6g
Total Carbohydrate 87g
Sugars 5g
Protein 52g

[tg11785]

is real gains pure muscle gains? or is it some fat to?

[purts]

It has a better formula than most of the gainers out there. Perfect for people who are bulking. More of what you want and less of what you don't want. Lots of carbs/cals and pratically no sugar.

[Universal Rep]

Universal Real Gains all the way for me. It's pretty cheap for its content. Here on BB.com 3.8 Lbs for 19.99$ (11 servings per container) or 6.85 Lbs. for 31.99$ (21 servings per container). Serving Size: 3.5 Scoops (155g)

Calories 610
Calories From Fat 53
Total Fat 6g
Total Carbohydrate 87g
Sugars 5g
Protein 52g

Like Real Gains? Here's your chance to pick up 25 tubs of Real Gains for free (or any combo of our products valued at $500): http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107561481

[BeastlyGains]

My favorite weight gainer so far would have to be CytoSport's CytoGainer. Using it twice a day, once between lunch and dinner, and agian directly after work-out. You'll see some great gains. Also it has a large selection of flavors, all of which I find pretty tastey.

~Rome wasn't built in a day.

[christiancassem]

The best product in the lower price range would have to be Dymatize mega gainer. Tastes really great too and just the right amount of nutrients per shake.

[_Hitman_]

I Like The Chocolate Flavor.

[Austin109]

you may need to look at the sugar content in that bro

[kcinnitram91]

is real gains pure muscle gains? or is it some fat to?

This depends mostly on your overall macros and not one shake. As long as you keep your macros under control while taking real gains you should be fine.

[caut1on]

12oz Skim milk, 1 cup oatmeal, 2 scoops whey, 1 tbspn peanut butter

[bsoates]

I need to gain a lot of weight for football. Should I take GNC Pro Performance Weight Gainer 2200 Gold or Mass XXX?Even though 2200 has more calories, it is loaded with a lot more sugar.

[Jeremiahalexand]

i'm Jeremiah Alexander i'm a model who works for different agencies,a TRUE natural bodybuilder for the NPC, a book writer and performer as well as an actor and this is what i have to say about all theses supplement companies out there!! everyone of these ****in companies make the same bull**** products. none of them really do ****!!ZMA, NOS, Creatine and whey protein are still the only legal over the counter breakthroughs we have and they still take forever to really make a differents and once you get off a week or two later you lose your muscle fast.

i have been looking for a real supplement for ****in years and have yet to find one that works like they say it does. if people time the time to read the fine print on all these over the counter mass, strength and testosterone supplement made by companies like Muscle Tech, BSN and Gaspri they would see that on the back of it they all say the same ****IN THING! this product MAY help testosterone levels or MAY help strength.. NEVER does it say WILL! or that its a fact their product works. hahah

i have spent no telling how much money over the past 3 ****IN YEARS on these company products. (no dought many thousands) and in all that time if i would have found ONE ****IN PERSON THAT REAL SOLD or DESIGN STEROIDS I WOULD HAVE THE PERFECT BODY BY NOW. I GAIN BETTER MUSCLE NOT USING THESE SUPPLEMENT COMPANIES FAKE ASS SUPPLEMENTS THEN I WOULD USING THEM. I HEAR, READ AND STUDY ALL THIS ****IN TALK ABOUT STEROIDS THIS AND THAT. I HAVE NEVER! NOT ONCE FOUND ONE ****IN PERSON THAT REALL SELL OR DESIGNS ****!! IS THERE NO ONE OUT THERE THAT DOES BECAUSE IF THERE IS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW...???? HAHAH I HAVE STUDIED THIS **** UNTIL I'M BLUE IN THE FACE AND MY EYES HAVE TURN BLOOD SHOT! STILL NO ONE NO WHERE CAN FIND THESE REAL MASS BUILDING SUPPLEMENTS CALL STEROIDS. WHERE THE **** ARE THEY!!!??? IF I WERE TO TAKE SOMETHING AS EVEN MILD AS THE REAL BOLDENONE I'D BE SET. OH WELL !!! HOW MAY ****IN YEARS DOES IT TAKE TO FIND A PERSON THAT DEALS OR MAKES THE ****. HELL I KNOW SO MUCH NOW I MAY EVEN MAKE THE **** MY DAMN SELF!! NO BODY ELSE IS GOING TO. HAHAH

THATS MY INFO FOR YA. **** ALL THESE FAKE ASS SUPPPLEMENT COMPANIES THAT ARE SELLING THESE STUPID ASS JUNK PRODUCTS THAT DON'T DO JAKE **** BUT MAKE YOU BURN FAT AND MUSCLE!!! THERE JUST IN IT FOR THE MONEY!! AND TO ME THATS THE REAL ****IN CRIME!! HELL, BAND OR PASS A ****IN BILL ON THOSE *******S FOR RIPPING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF THESE POR ASS SOULS BUSTING THERE ASSES IN THE GYM EVERYDAY THINKING THERE GOING TO LOOK EVEN BETTER IF THEY BUY THESE COMPANIES BULL**** SUPPLEMENTS.

bottom line( don't waist all your hard earn money on these fake supplements. if really wana lookin great, do you homework on steroids then buy steroids from a really good source and take them in moderation to make your body look they way you want it to.) other wise you'll never look like 95 percent of these bodybuilder and fitness guys in all the muscle magazines.
COLD HARD FACT!!!

JEREMIAH ALEXANDER myspace.com/jeremiah1977

[Blue Blazer]

Wow, I've never seen a troll like this before...haha

[Football_DL]

Isopure Mass was the weight gainer of choice for me. I took it after my surgery and added 35 -45 lbs on over the course of 5 months, with most of it being a lot of muscle mass in my legs and back. Granted I had lower body surgery so the gains came quick but Isopure mass was a great help. After I got off of it when I hit my goal weight of 275 the gains tappered and now on Isopure Zero Carb protein I have just remained at a constant weight.

[DSTROYER]

I've been on Cyto Gainer ever since I started lifting, and while it put on 30 lbs in a year, I have plateaued at 195 and can't seem to put on any more pounds, and it has been 6 months! Any suggestions?

I would move away from a single sourced protein, into a blended protein wich will offer you more time for building muscle this is called protein synthasis that just means your body is in the enviroment to build and maintain lean muscle tissue. try to find one with time released carbs not just maltodextrin that should help ya bro. check this website they have killer prices
www.nutritionzoneonline.com

[purts]

Like Real Gains? Here's your chance to pick up 25 tubs of Real Gains for free (or any combo of our products valued at $500): http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107561481

Thanks URep but I was aware. Such a promo can't be ignore. :eek: Actually, I posted my entry (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=160577041&postcount=180) (on page 6) a couple of days ago.

As for Real Gains, I'm almost done with my first 6 Lbs. bucket. I picked another one in my last BB.com order. Shall receive it in a week.

[tomjeans]

energy required everday

[Universal Rep]

Thanks URep but I was aware. Such a promo can't be ignore. :eek: Actually, I posted my entry (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=160577041&postcount=180) (on page 6) a couple of days ago.

As for Real Gains, I'm almost done with my first 6 Lbs. bucket. I picked another one in my last BB.com order. Shall receive it in a week.

Yeah, figured you'd know...

[Geneticz]

Love universal and all their products, but just my two cents.

I went through 2 "big" tubs of Universal real gains in the last month and 1/2. Gained barely ANYTHING (1 lb) if that - from it all.

Im a very lean guy. I was 141 now im 173 and having a hard time putting on weight. Muscle is still coming because I go to the gym 4/5 days a week and lift "big." Still getting huge gains in the gym but gaining weight is bad at the moment.

I know diet is the most important thing and any supplement is just a "Supplement" but I figured it would help a bit more then it did. I eat well throughout the day (eggs/chicken/x2 protein shakes/salads) "quality calories/food" - Peanut butter, tunafish, etc etc. WW bread, turkey sandwichs.

I love universal and will continue to use their products but these 2 weight gainers were a complete waste of $. I am now on optimum "Serious mass" and have gained probably 2 pounds in the past week. I know its not as healthy/quality... but its calories are almost double/triple w/ milk and there more fats/sugars, etc.

Im literally the definition of a "hard gainer" so maybe its just me though. Other universal products still are sick!

[Eat-n-Lift]

Im about to get a tub of Muscle Juice, what is the best tasting flavor?

[TJ2000]

Get the chocolate or banana one. Cookies and cream is good too but it didn't mix well for me cause of the bits of cookie tossed in. If you want a smoother shake try choc or banana, they both taste really good IMO but watch out the stuffs rich.

[Ka Jota]

1 scoop whey
1 scoop casein
2 servings oats
1/2-1 cup broccoli
2 servings lowfat milk
1 serving natural pb
1 serving liquid fish oil

breakdown...
~75g protein
~70g carbs
~30g fat

i'd say probably better than any of the ones mentioned so far? unless someone else said something similar. thoughts?

[Hart18]

UN Real Gains hands down! Love the stuff. Im a hard gainer and even eating a crapload everyday isnt enough sometimes. This **** really helps.

[Dlimits]

GNC Mass XXX i think is amazing, i haven't taken it for quite some time but when i did i loved the stuff!

dont use GNC

i was younger and i had their 1850 calorie shake and i was stupid enough back then to attempt it all in 1 serving with milk. all the sugar it had made me feel terrible

maybey it changed since then but it has alot of sugar the last time i looked.

[Idontlikeit]

i been on cytogainer for 2 tubs already think i mite switch to something cheaper. leaning towards universal real gain now hope it will get me where i want

[jstenson]

GNC's Mass XXX just came out with a fruit punch drink similar to the isopure RTDs. It's delicious, only 20 ounces and still has all 700 calories and 50g of protein. Plus it's actually a drink and not a shake, big plus in my book.

[Ka Jota]

well clearly there's some pretty dumbass posters in here so i won't bother

[rmcphers]

it seems like all the carbohydrates in universal real gains are coming from sugar, 198g of sugar per serving... that is not necessarily the best type of carbs to betaking in unless it is used post work out. Something like ISOPURE MASS has little sugar and mostly complex carbs.

[bsoates]

Is GNC's Mass XXX better than GNC's Weight Gainer 2200 Gold?

[MTXR]

I am new to these weight gainers, but i just recieved serious mass in the mail today and i have the banna flavor and it seriously tasted like candy.

I wonder if 21g of sugar is probably to much for only ~80g of carbs...

[bruinsfan41]

does anyone like muscle tech

[scottymac710]

^no

[warn81]

I just received cyto gainer today. I don't plan on working out much. What will happen if I take it and not work out? Will I still gain weight?

[totti_]

I just received cyto gainer today. I don't plan on working out much. What will happen if I take it and not work out? Will I still gain weight?
Yeah you will gain weight but it'll turn into fat since your not going to workout

i use my gainer post workout the 30 grams of protein + 40 grams of carbo and about 2.5-5 grams of creatine does the trick, i get good gains.

[crane_470]

Im currently taking Tru-Mass by BSN that my brother gave me 2 weeks ago when I started working out and i bought 6 star creatine because it has a high sugar count, im almost out of tru-mass and i was going to buy the weight gainer called mamoth(very high in sugar + cheap) because im 6' tall and 157 pounds so im just trying to put on any kind of weight I can so has anybody had any experience with this gainer or can tell me A good one to use for my purpose.

[AMillane7]

Im currently taking Tru-Mass by BSN that my brother gave me 2 weeks ago when I started working out and i bought 6 star creatine because it has a high sugar count, im almost out of tru-mass and i was going to buy the weight gainer called mamoth(very high in sugar + cheap) because im 6' tall and 157 pounds so im just trying to put on any kind of weight I can so has anybody had any experience with this gainer or can tell me A good one to use for my purpose.

muscle juice seems to fit the cheap high sugar description

[ShaolinSoccer]

true mass is good but leaves you feeling bit bloated.

[240kat]

I liked taking the Cytogainer (2 scoops + 2 cups milk). It came out to be the same macros, but put some casien in the system.

I just bought a 10lb tub of Pro Complex Gainer, we'll see how it works.

[cellshot]

it seems like all the carbohydrates in universal real gains are coming from sugar, 198g of sugar per serving... that is not necessarily the best type of carbs to betaking in unless it is used post work out. Something like ISOPURE MASS has little sugar and mostly complex carbs.

really. either that or you're reading something wrong.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/real.html

5g of sugar a serving bro.

[robman0079]

I would definitley have to say Mass XXX from GNC is the best protein i have ever used for gaining weight. 750 cal in water 990 in 2% milk (1050 in whole milk) and 50g of protein. Ive tried cytogainer and gained nothin. Used this and gained 20lbs in 2 months. my BF did not rise still 8%. All muscle and maybe some bone bc i grew an inch, dunno. i was a measley 125 lbs b4 usin XXX. Im still using it and regret trying cytogainer. Now im weighin ~150 and im trying to get to 170.

[cheece2001]

Dymatize High Protein Mega Gainer

[240kat]

i got a free tub of Mus-L BLAST from my gym. It has 21g protein and 134g of carbs per serving (68g of sugar). This could be decent with some added whey, maybe?

[totti_]

Dymatize High Protein Mega Gainer
right on brother!

[totti_]

really. either that or you're reading something wrong.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/real.html

5g of sugar a serving bro.
wow, thats a very good gainer only 5 grams of sugar with 87 grams of carbo

[jrizzle4122]

CYTO GAINER by Cytosport. banana creme flvr

[24-7-365]

aint that **** 3 monster scoops per serving, i couldn't gulp all that crap down

[JAWS22]

I think if your going to gain, you need to include 6-8 (5 being smaller meals) that give you a higher caloric and carb intake than your body requires by a couple hundred percent. Otherwise the gainers and stuff are basically (not in everyone but most people) giving you little more than what your body requires. So if you STACK gainers untop of a hefty diet then you will see results with almost ANY gainer that isnt a total waste of money. If you eat enough, just buy some Whey.

[vince panell]

I would have to say Cyto Gainer. It is the best I have tried yet.

[IKA MITA]

UP YOUR MASS cinnuman bun tastes great and even better results not to mention cheap as hell you wont regret it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SCL80]

Im a fan of Cytogainer but just started using a couple weeks ago ON serious mass and have had good results so far

[thauncle]

i have tried both mass xxx and gold 2200.mass xxx have more protein in it so i'd go with that one i've gone from 121 to 127 in one month but thats also wit a strict eatting diet of every 3 hours or so alot of water and working out 3 times a week.

[willedson]

One of my friends came to me asking what weight gainer I thought he should take. I didn't have a lot of experience with weight gainers so I started looking up all the different brands. After reading about a lot of them I decided to recommend Real Gains. He ended up gaining 14LBS, and that was in Iraq. Not an easy place to make sure that you're always eating right. He's quite happy with it and has continued to take it. Based on that, I'm going to have to say that Real Gains is definitely one of the top weight gainers.

[LayinLo]

BSN True Mass work perfectly

Couldn't agree more. It actually doesn't taste half bad...

[kawiracer236]

So... what would the best time to take a weight gainer be... before workout or after? or during the day?

[BasilRansom]

I looked at all the gainers offered by BB's store, and I picked out the ones with low sugar, low carb to protein ratios (I figure I get enough carbs from other sources, so I don't need a 4:1 ratio like some gainers offer - is this wise?), creatine and glutamine. Dymatize's High Protein Mega Gainer looks the best, based solely on stats, including low cholesterol, and it's fairly cheap too. It's also got multiple protein sources, casein included.

Should I still take a multi-vitamin once I start using a gainer?

Here are the best ones, ordered by lowest price:

IDS Smart Gainer (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ids/smart.html)
Calories 656
Calories From Fat 99
Total Fat 11g 5%
Saturated Fat 4g 18%
Cholesterol 160mg 53%
Sodium 364mg 15%
Total Carbohydrate 88g 29%
Dietary Fiber 4g 17%
Sugars 7g
Protein 51g 102%


Dymatize High Protein Mega Gainer (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dym/hpgainer.html)
Calories 600
Calories From Fat 33
Total Fat 3g 4%
Saturated Fat 0g 2%
Cholesterol 70mg 22%
Sodium 200mg 8%
Potassium 500mg 15%
Total Carbohydrate 81g 27%
Sugar 5g %
Protein 60g

Twinlab Mass Fuel (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/tl/mass.html)
Calories 620
Calories From Fat 35
Total Fat 4g 6%**
Saturated Fat 2g 11%**
Trans Fat 0g ?
Cholesterol 130mg 43%**
Sodium 220mg 9%**
Total Carbohydrate 100g 33% **
Dietary Fiber 4g 16% **
Sugars 9g ?
Protein 50g ?

CytoSport Cyto Gainer (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cs/gainer.html)
Calories 580
Calories From Fat 45
Total Fat 5g 7%
Saturated Fat 2.5g 14%
Cholesterol 150mg 51%
Sodium 230mg 9%
Potassium 540mg 16%
Total Carbohydrate 79g 26%
Dietary Fiber 1g 2%
Sugars 6g
Protein 54g 108%

Met-Rx Xtreme Size Up (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/met/size.html)
Calories 600
Calories From Fat 50
Total Fat 6g 9%**
Saturated Fat 4.5g 23%**
Cholesterol 65mg 22%**
Total Carbohydrate 80g 27%**
Dietary Fiber 8g 32%**
Sugars 5g ***
Protein 59g 118%**

Edit: Just crunched some numbers, and found that it's probably actually cheaper to buy rather than make a gainer. ON Whey costs about 2.1 cents per gram of protein (price/total grams of protein), Dymatize's costs 2.7 cents per gram of protein, and that latter figure ignores all the other stuff in the gainer. Think of it this way, the cost of the amount of protein in Dymatize is about $37.50, if you use the price per gram of ON Whey. The other $12.50 gets you carbs, fat, glutamine, creatine, vitamins, etc.

[Dave5000]

Awesome, thanks for doing all that legwork. I love IDS products, so I'm going to agree with what you've got there.

[Danzavier]

Still diggin cytogainer. Works good

[chinchillables]

Steaks, Potatoes, and anything else with a lot of calories + good flavor. Not really into the supplements... Most I've taken, the results left right after I stopped.


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[mmlak]

Allmax Quickmass is sick i gained 10lbs of muscle of one tub.

[D1111]

Try six star muscle,mass gainer,anabolic weight gainer,1000 calories 4 scoops,45grams of protein + creatine,L-glut,L-arginine etc etc..and it taste pretty good as well

[DCVolcom]

I'm taking BSN True Mass since tryin to gain some weight and muscle...skinny here lol if i don't workout and cont. to take BSN True Mass will i gain weight??
and i have since i have fast metabolism harder for me to gain weight too

[BenficaSS289]

I'm taking BSN True Mass since tryin to gain some weight and muscle...skinny here lol if i don't workout and cont. to take BSN True Mass will i gain weight??
and i have since i have fast metabolism harder for me to gain weight too

You'll gain more fat.

[xjeffx]

I'm taking BSN True Mass since tryin to gain some weight and muscle...skinny here lol if i don't workout and cont. to take BSN True Mass will i gain weight??
and i have since i have fast metabolism harder for me to gain weight too

Sure you'll gain wait but it won't be much, if any, muscle. You have to work out.

I used a couple of tubs of TrueMass. It was very good tasting and smooth. Cytogainer and/or MuscleMilk is my new favorite and it has much less sugar than TrueMass. I believe TrueMass has 16g/serving vs 6g/serving with CytoGainer. The rest of the nutritional facts are pretty much the same.

[SuperiorBeast]

Cytogainer.

[Mark1T]

Cytogainer

[g3ner1k]

I've been taking ON Serious Mass and have gained 5 lbs (145lbs to 150). I'm almost done with the 10 lb bag and I'm thinking of switching to Cyto Sport. I'm hearing too many good things about it on this site as well as from fellow gym mates.

[whsfball24]

Muscle Juice(for now)
...
Gonna order some Optimum Nutrition's Serious Mass this go around :)

[ronPaul]

cytogainer was good
but the best i've had was nutrabolic's iso lean gainer

that was amazing, it was like a muscle weight gainer and i LOST fat

[cobralex297]

Everybody here likes Cytogainer. I think I'll get that one.
Any preferences on the flavor? Which is the best?

[steeldragons]

Sorry didn't take time to read thru all the posts, but it looks like you would get more for your money with Universal real gains.... compare the price and ingredients... good luck either way!

[Trem24]

cytogainer was good
but the best i've had was nutrabolic's iso lean gainer

that was amazing, it was like a muscle weight gainer and i LOST fat

That nutrabolic's iso gainer looks good, how's it taste?

[bts]

Beverly int. Mass Maker

[CosmikDebris]

I've been using 1/2 cup of NOW Carbo Gain, 1 Cup of Oats, water and 2 scoops of whey and that's 700 cals.

[jdawg159753]

pre-workout:
2 androbolix pills (daily dosage)
black powder
6 nitrace pill form (daily dosage)

post workout:
50g ON 100% WHEY protein
3 scoops Muscletech Anabolic HALO

I am almost through my first tub of Anabolic Halo and half way through my first cycle of Androbolix Testosterone Amplifiers. Basically my goal is to put on massive size asap without taking harmful supplements. I also own ISS Re-Satr8 creatine but have not been taking it because it upsets my stomach to take creatine the anabolic halo and protein all post-workout and have it all sit in my stomach.

What do you guys think about what I am currently taking? Please help me out with suggestions on what supplements I could change up or add into my program. My main goal is to put as much muscle mass on as possible especially in my arms and also wants to get a strong, cut core/stomach. Would a fat burner be efficient and safe to add in?

[ronPaul]

That nutrabolic's iso gainer looks good, how's it taste?

tastes nice
it doesn't mix as easily as cytogainer, but then again nothing does
but it will mix nonetheless

it really honestly gave me ALOT of lean mass within like only 4 days of using it

there's few products that I say i will continue to buy that

[trboda7]

I've been taking ON Serious Mass and have gained 5 lbs (145lbs to 150). I'm almost done with the 10 lb bag and I'm thinking of switching to Cyto Sport. I'm hearing too many good things about it on this site as well as from fellow gym mates.


im on my 4th bag of ON serious mass and have put on over 15+lbs i am eating 6 meals per day also and was taking serious mass 3x's per day but was gaining weight too fast and mostly fat.. ive cut down o 2x's per day 1scoop 1/2 serving. i have to say chocolate is the best.. tasted vanilla,strawberry.. im not a chocolate fan at all but it taste like a hershey chocolate bar easier to drink... the vanilla and starberry sometimes made me think twice about drinking it.

[trboda7]

I've been taking ON Serious Mass and have gained 5 lbs (145lbs to 150). I'm almost done with the 10 lb bag and I'm thinking of switching to Cyto Sport. I'm hearing too many good things about it on this site as well as from fellow gym mates.


im on my 4th bag of ON serious mass and have put on over 15+lbs in just over 6 weeks, i am eating 6 meals per day also and was taking serious mass 3x's per day but was gaining weight too fast and mostly fat.. ive cut down o 2x's per day 1scoop 1/2 serving. i have to say chocolate is the best.. tasted vanilla,strawberry.. im not a chocolate fan at all but it taste like a hershey chocolate bar easier to drink... the vanilla and starberry sometimes made me think twice about drinking it.

[Austin109]

pre-workout:
2 androbolix pills (daily dosage)
black powder
6 nitrace pill form (daily dosage)

post workout:
50g ON 100% WHEY protein
3 scoops Muscletech Anabolic HALO

I am almost through my first tub of Anabolic Halo and half way through my first cycle of Androbolix Testosterone Amplifiers. Basically my goal is to put on massive size asap without taking harmful supplements. I also own ISS Re-Satr8 creatine but have not been taking it because it upsets my stomach to take creatine the anabolic halo and protein all post-workout and have it all sit in my stomach.

What do you guys think about what I am currently taking? Please help me out with suggestions on what supplements I could change up or add into my program. My main goal is to put as much muscle mass on as possible especially in my arms and also wants to get a strong, cut core/stomach. Would a fat burner be efficient and safe to add in?

drop the halo, its bunk. try to increase food intake just as a general rule to gain weight. a weight gain shake helps wonders for most. i recomend universal real gains. not sure about the androbolix, i coundt find anything on it so i dont trust it yet. nitrace is good but it doesnt really help a lot. creatine + protien+ carbs post workout would help more than what your taking now.

[jagawoods]

Muscle milk collegiate has got around 580 calories per serving?.. and it seems to be just a higher calorie version of muscle milk?..
Wouldnt it then be a good choice?.. Would the creatine in Cytogainer cause us to shrink when we stop taking it.

[d1ez3]

I like real gains from universal

[Hardgainer2000]

Muscle milk collegiate has got around 580 calories per serving?.. and it seems to be just a higher calorie version of muscle milk?..
Wouldnt it then be a good choice?.. Would the creatine in Cytogainer cause us to shrink when we stop taking it.

Yes it is, I take the collegiate and it works well. I was gonna take cytogainer but didnt want the creatine nor the cholestrol

[HamMach1]

Do all weight gainers contain creatine?
Should I even take seperate creatine powder with a weight gainer like Cyto Gainer which has 3g of creatine in it per serving? I would like to take more of the weight gainer but not want to worry about getting too much creatine in my body.

Preworkout: 5.25g of Creadrive from GNC
Postworkout: 3g of creatine from Cyto Gainer

But if I take another serving of Cyto Gainer, that would be too much creatine in one day.

HELP! :)

[thauncle]

GNC Pro Performance Weight Gainer 2200 Gold - strawberry
best ever

[ps1ch]

how much milk do u guise use with the 3.5 scoops of Real Gains?

[GiambiFan]

^10oz works for me

[gianthulkman]

XXL drinks
http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-3049325-10409409

[Bas85]

Anyone try that Ultimate Nutrition Iso-gainer. I saw it in GNC and they were pushing it on me saying ti was a great product

[atlas405]

its a great gainer for cheap. already seeing huge results in my first week of mass season. i split the servings in half and take it 2-3x a day. definitely worth the 50 dollars. good luck bro.

[Bas85]

sounds good. Thanx for the answer. Any more reviews on this supplement?

[ballsdeepent.]

i like universal real gains also. has helped me pack on a few pounds and im not even 3/4 way thru the tub! i have been stacking with isostak and also chromium picolinate with dinner. the only thing is it clumps sometimes even with my bb.com shaker bottle. i use 2.5 scoops real gains and 1 scoop bodyfortress whey protein +13 oz. of milk...kind of messes with my stomach ...awesome gas tho ;)

[Lloyd Braun]

I've been using Cytogainer the last 3 days. This is my first time running it so I'll have to wait until I'm done to measure any gains, but thus far it's been the best-tasting and best-mixing gainer I've ever had.

[Universal Rep]

Interesting thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7253341

[CHARLIEMURPHY]

I've been reading everyones input on weight gainers, and I'm going to try one out to put on some pounds, but the question I had was...Once you achieve your targeted weight/size, should I switch to a different supplement? Or simply use say, half of the serving of the weight gainer just to maintain my size? I'm new to all this, so I apologize ahead of time if it's a newbie question.

[itzfrank]

"Up your mass" works great for me. I have no complaints and the taste is good. Plus, it's considerably cheaper then the rest of these 50$ weight gainers. Runs about 36$ on here.

[chuatzekai]

Upon finding out BSN True-Mass won the Weight-gainer of the year in Bodybuilding.com and with so many good reviews, I went and bought my first tub of BSN True-Mass(Vanilla) and had the first taste.

I put 1 and a half scoop into my blender and added 11 Oz of Skim Milk.
OMG, it tastes superb! No shakes I ever tasted can match it. It makes me
look forward to drink my next scoop.

As for the gains, this is my first drink so I don't know yet, I hope this gainer lives up to its gainer of the year award, update you guys soon. Anyone know why True-Mass can beat hot-favourites Cytogainer and Real Gains to win the award?

I was previously on Twinlab Super Gainers Fuel Pro, took about 3 weeks to finish a tub, gained 1.5 kg. Bought the chocolate flavor, doesnt taste bad with milk but can't match with True-Mass. However, the amount of water and milk needed to drink is too much makes me extremely bloated.

[Austin109]

it won bc it sold the most. BSN is more widely known and advertised more than real gains and cytogainer. in my opinion having used all 3.

1)Real Gains
2)Truemass
3)Cytogainer

[pbassn]

Where is it? I've been using this gainer for a little bit over a month now and have found greater results in a gainer than in BSN Cellmass.

[Blue Blazer]

Where is it? I've been using this gainer for a little bit over a month now and have found greater results in a gainer than in BSN Cellmass.

Probobly bause CellMass is CEE and not a gainer, maybe you mean True Mass?? Which is BSN's gainer..

[lhawkins]

FYI the BSN True Mass does not clump. It actually can be mix by hand. The stuff simply liquifies in no time.

I did two scoops in a glass and only used an egg beater by hand and it took less than 20 seconds. WITH 2 whole eggs added in.

I just ordered some Universal Rail Gains, I'll review it.

I am currently using True Mass and i really like it, the taste the results etc. however i am now reaching the leaning stage and i see alot of lean builders useing EAS whey protein. looking at the content they don't seem that far off, just True mass seems more complete. Any thoughts on the comparison?

[caleb1]

Well i am in desperate need of a really good weight gainer i just want it to taste moderately good!

the one i tried because it has the best nutritious values is iso-mass i couldnt find it on the website but here it is at gnc
http://www.********/product/index.jsp?productId=2815249&cp=2108309&pg=2&sr=1&origkw=weight+gain&parentPage=family

it taste so so so bad (vanilla and chocolate ) if i drink it i end up throwing half of it back in the cup and drinking it which makes it taste worse please please help !


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[chuatzekai]

Well i am in desperate need of a really good weight gainer i just want it to taste moderately good!

the one i tried because it has the best nutritious values is iso-mass i couldnt find it on the website but here it is at gnc
http://www.********/product/index.jsp?productId=2815249&cp=2108309&pg=2&sr=1&origkw=weight+gain&parentPage=family

it taste so so so bad (vanilla and chocolate ) if i drink it i end up throwing half of it back in the cup and drinking it which makes it taste worse please please help !

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If you want a good performance Weight Gainer + Good Taste. Get the BSN True-Mass (Vanilla), it mixes with water very easily, is 1 of the best taste gainer, probably even the best. Taste super when mix with skim milk, I just love it, and is Weight Gainer of the year, so you can't really go wrong.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/true.html

Get a blender to mix with your gainer, you will notice a big difference in taste.
Maybe you can give details on why your Iso-mass taste bad, wat did u mix it with? How much? What else u did etc. As detail as possible so we can help u out.

[aarroonn]

im headed to muscle milk collegiate, im already getting huge creatine strength gains with sizeon!

[caleb1]

If you want a good performance Weight Gainer + Good Taste. Get the BSN True-Mass (Vanilla), it mixes with water very easily, is 1 of the best taste gainer, probably even the best. Taste super when mix with skim milk, I just love it, and is Weight Gainer of the year, so you can't really go wrong.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/true.html

Get a blender to mix with your gainer, you will notice a big difference in taste.
Maybe you can give details on why your Iso-mass taste bad, wat did u mix it with? How much? What else u did etc. As detail as possible so we can help u out.


well i tried the vanilla first because my friend said it was horrible and he was selling it. so i bought it for 15 its regularly around 50/60 (deppending on sale)

i mixed every thing you can think of with it. Allways the same result horrible!! . so i think maybe cholcolate will be better i tried it almost puked and returned it and said it made me black out lol

[jwallace1985]

I gained about 5lbs with my last tub of cytogainer. and it tastes awesome, mixes really well. creatine already in it... good stuff

[hulkinout]

Cytogainer still gets my vote after I tried that Russian Bear stuff. Yeesh, that stuff made me suffer (I'm sure you can guess how).

[bigdanny123]

I really like cytogainer.

[CaptainGorgeous]

Do Real Gains or Pro Complex contain creatine monohydrate? I'm thinking about using Green Mag in the near future, so Cytogainer is out of the question.

[adriel38]

Am i the only one that thinks cytogainer tastes like ass?

[CaptainGorgeous]

Am i the only one that thinks cytogainer tastes like ass?

what flavor do you use?

[code3gt]

If you like Nestle Quick, try IDS Smartgainer Chocolate Caramel. Tastes Awesome... Price is good. Has lactose though so if you're intolllerant you're in for trouble. Price isn't bad either.

[adriel38]

what flavor do you use?

i use chocolate

[jkmatthews]

Calf Starter.

[Desert_Eagle]

Do Real Gains or Pro Complex contain creatine monohydrate? I'm thinking about using Green Mag in the near future, so Cytogainer is out of the question.No, nether of them have creatine.

[FWCMuZiK]

heavyweight gainer

[CaptainGorgeous]

I normally used cytogainer, but I just ordered a small tub of Real Gains (strawberry). It's tough finding powders that don't upset my stomach (chocolate flavoring does not agree with me), so I'll see how this goes and report back.

So far, cytogainer has been very satisfactory.

[italianplaya30]

i like to make my own homemade weight gainer

1-2 scoops whey
1-2 scoops Dry Milk
2-3 scoops unflavored Waxy Maize
1-2 tbsp of either peanut butter or Udos oil


the good thing about a homemade weight gainer is that you can tailor it to fit your macros easily!

[chuatzekai]

Any BSN True-Mass users here?

Can share on how many scoops you take per day?
And what weight you are at now? I am at 61 Kg

I am finding out the best amount to take per day
to gain weight as fast as possible..

[CaptainGorgeous]

i like to make my own homemade weight gainer

1-2 scoops whey
1-2 scoops Dry Milk
2-3 scoops unflavored Waxy Maize
1-2 tbsp of either peanut butter or Udos oil


the good thing about a homemade weight gainer is that you can tailor it to fit your macros easily!

This is true. I pretty much regard homemade gainers as being superior to supplements in almost every way. But they can be a pain in the ass to make, so I got lazy and switched to cytogainer which does the job.

[Muay Thai]

Any BSN True-Mass users here?

Can share on how many scoops you take per day?
And what weight you are at now? I am at 61 Kg

I am finding out the best amount to take per day
to gain weight as fast as possible..

I used to use 3 or 4 scoops with 500ml of milk.

[pokerkingcrew]

I`m not goin to say any powders at all, to embrace any companys ego`s......

I would have to say "Taro" it is the best keep secret from the world.Us Maori`s/Islanders are some of the biggest people in the world, of got cousins that are 7ft plus 300pounds and pack with muscle......

No need for chemicals in the body!

Natural only!!!!!

Try eating it!

As the islanders say it`s a natural steroid!!!!!

[sobeit23]

so it looks like cytogainer is the best...How long does it usually take to see results?

[JamesD3]

If you want a good performance Weight Gainer + Good Taste. Get the BSN True-Mass (Vanilla), it mixes with water very easily, is 1 of the best taste gainer, probably even the best. Taste super when mix with skim milk, I just love it, and is Weight Gainer of the year, so you can't really go wrong.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/true.html

Get a blender to mix with your gainer, you will notice a big difference in taste.
Maybe you can give details on why your Iso-mass taste bad, wat did u mix it with? How much? What else u did etc. As detail as possible so we can help u out.

F*ck off, a big whopping 3 posts and they are all to advertise your stupid BSN True-Mass.

[rockbottom3]

I've been on Cyto Gainer ever since I started lifting, and while it put on 30 lbs in a year, I have plateaued at 195 and can't seem to put on any more pounds, and it has been 6 months! Any suggestions?


try using creatine

[chuatzekai]

F*ck off, a big whopping 3 posts and they are all to advertise your stupid BSN True-Mass.

Oh you are not happy about it? Get lost and don't read the forum. Anyone is free to post here. Stupid comments. At least I gave useful comments.

[JamesD3]

Oh you are not happy about it? Get lost and don't read the forum. Anyone is free to post here. Stupid comments. At least I gave useful comments.

Just like you said, anyone is free to post here. Just like I am free to post what I want...and so I did. Ohh poor baby, did it offend you?

Go run off to your stupid little advertisements and let the big boys play here. Thanks. :D

[chuatzekai]

Just like you said, anyone is free to post here. Just like I am free to post what I want...and so I did. Ohh poor baby, did it offend you?

Go run off to your stupid little advertisements and let the big boys play here. Thanks. :D

It is you this poor boy that ask people to f off first, since you can't stop people from posting, the only other option for u is not to read it, lol.

It offend me? But you are the one making all the noises first lol. Another stupid comment.