Best Overall Weight Gainer?

[FWCMuZiK]

in the past ive spent loads on weight gainers and they do work but cost alot so now i just buy some desent proten and make my own.

1scoop pro powder.
30g peanut butter.
300ml semi skimmed.
100g oats.
1 banana.

throw in a blender and hey presto it gives approx 50g protein, 100g of good carbs, 15g of good fat.

how many calories?

[Johnny2k7]

in the past ive spent loads on weight gainers and they do work but cost alot so now i just buy some desent proten and make my own.

1scoop pro powder.
30g peanut butter.
300ml semi skimmed.
100g oats.
1 banana.

throw in a blender and hey presto it gives approx 50g protein, 100g of good carbs, 15g of good fat.


how many calories?


735...you could of worked it out pretty easily yano lol.

[No Can Do]

started vitol's russian bear 5000 today. i'll let ya know.

[Johnny2k7]

Actually I've been wondering, if you go down the 'homemade' route, how long does it all stay blended for? I mean like how long long can honey and peanut butter spend in milk before it sticks at the bottom of a shaker?

[shardsofglass]

What do you guys think of GNC Pro Performance Weight Gainer 2200 Gold?



Nutrition Facts (without 2% milk)
Serving Size 3 Rounded scoops
Servings Per Container 5
Amount Per Serving % DV
Calories 1840.00
Calories from Fat 30.00
Total Fat 3.00 g 5%
Saturated Fat 1.50 g 9%
Cholesterol 70.00 mg 23%
Sodium 500.00 mg 21%
Potassium 1060.00 mg 30%
Total Carbohydrate 402.00 g 134%
Dietary Fiber 5.00 g 20%
Sugars 81.00 g
Protein 50.00 g 100%
Vitamin A 1000.00 IU 20%
Vitamin C 18.00 mg 30%
Calcium 500.00 mg 50%
Iron 3.60 mg 20%
Vitamin D 60.00 IU 15%
Vitamin E 4.50 IU 15%
Thiamin 0.30 mg 20%
Riboflavin 1.70 mg 100%
Niacin 4.00 mg 20%
Vitamin B-6 0.60 mg 30%
Folic Acid 200.00 mcg 50%
Vitamin B-12 4.80 mcg 80%
Biotin 90.00 mcg 30%
Pantothenic Acid 3.00 mg 30%
Phosphorus 450.00 mg 45%
Magnesium 200.00 mg 50%
Zinc 5.25 mg 35%
Copper 0.90 mg 45%
Manganese 1.00 mg 50%
Chromium 72.00 mcg 60%
Molybdenum 45.00 mcg 60%
** Daily Value (DV) not established
? Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on
your calorie needs:
Calories: 2000 2500
Total Fat Less than 65 g 80 g
Sat. Fat Less than 20 g 25 g
Cholesterol Less than 300 mg 300 mg
Sodium Less than 2400 mg 2400 mg
Total Carbohydrate 300 g 375 g
Dietary Fiber 25 g 30 g
Calories per gram:
Fat 9? Carbohydrate 4?Protein 4


Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Corn Syrup Solids, Fructose, alpha-Amylase, lipase, Carbogen, Lecithin, Creatine Monohydrate, Guar Gum, artificial flavors, Cocoa, Dextrose, Bromelain, Papain, Aminogen, Guarana Extract, Pro Performance (Whey Protein Concentrate, Calcium Caseinate, Egg Albumen, Whey Protein Isolate, Sweet Dairy Whey, Dipentene (Limonene), Magnesium Oxide, Choline Bitartrate, Calcium Carbonate, Inosine, Inositol, para-Aminobenzoic Acid (PABA), L-Carnitine, Ascorbic Acid, Biotin, Ferrous Fumarate, Betaine Hydrochloride, Chromium Polynicotinate, Vitamin E (as natural d-alpha Tocopheryl Succinate), Vitamin A Palmitate, Niacinamide, Copper Gluconate, Potassium Gluconate, Potassium Iodide, Zinc Oxide, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Folic Acid, Selenomethionine, Cholecalciferol, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine HCl, Manganese Glycinate, Thiamin (as Thiamin Mononitrate), Cyanocobalamin, Molybdenum Glycinate)

This stuff is very, VERY sugary and real hard to get down. I only sampled some that somebody was throwing away and I can't believe I wasted 24 ounces of water on it.

[disbeast57]

Cytogainer by far the best for the price

protein factorys big blast is the best weight gainer but its expensive.

I am going to start making my own though.

[nike103103]

Cytogainer by far the best for the price

protein factorys big blast is the best weight gainer but its expensive.

I am going to start making my own though.

Good choice on makin your own. You can make it as calorie dense as you want and you can make it taste however you want. Plus you save money too

[King Tiger]

I'm finishing my first tub of MHP's Up Your Mass

The stuff makes me feel great, I usually take it in the morning. Weight gains? Nothing to write home about. Might be my pathetic workouts...

I have some CytoGainer on the way. I'm excited about trying it.

[Johnny2k7]

I'm thinking about buying some cytogainer for my bulk in a few weeks, recommended flavours?

[usahockeykid24]

yea the chocolate sounds good
but is it all right to mix match brands?

Protein- Muscle Juice
Pre work out -Black Powder (MRI)
Post- Anabolic OC (MAP)

unsure if those 3 together are ok?

[lipmadeulook]

I'm thinking about buying some cytogainer for my bulk in a few weeks, recommended flavours?

I have had the vanilla carmel, chocolate malt and chocolate mint.

If you like the combination of chocolate and mint than it will be the best protein shake you have ever had. It tastes exactly like those andes chocolates that come in a green wrapper that you find in some hotels and restaurants. However neither the VC or CM are too bad so it is preference.

[JMoney..]

started vitol's russian bear 5000 today. i'll let ya know.

that **** is pretty hardcore bro keep me updated haha.

[finehaymakerday]

would have to be True Mass by BSN... tastes great, has ovr 40g if Protein per serving. Even a hard-gainer will put on some serious weight with this product!

[Pac-o-Maniac]

I'm gonna start with Universal's Real Gains tomorrow. It sounds pretty promising.

52g of protein, 88g of carbs with only 5g of sugar plus Glutamine and BCAAs, I think you can't ask much more from a Weight Gainer.

[Universal Rep]

I'm gonna start with Universal's Real Gains tomorrow. It sounds pretty promising.

52g of protein, 88g of carbs with only 5g of sugar plus Glutamine and BCAAs, I think you can't ask much more from a Weight Gainer.

Real Gains is the free sample of the month. Check it out and request some from www.universalnutrition.com.

Real Gains has a sweet protein blend, including micellar casein.

[neovirus]

am currently using Universal ultra mass 4500 ...
will let you know about its effects in few weeks..:)

[berniemack83]

i think the best weight gainer is CYTOGAINER the flavor is Chocolate Mint

[djbaum]

i think the best weight gainer is CYTOGAINER the flavor is Chocolate Mint

I'm using cytogainer right now too. Banana Creme. ITs pretty good and I'm making some decent gains on it. I think it's best among the lean gainers.

[Rique]

started vitol's russian bear 5000 today. i'll let ya know.

lol u gonna be on the toilet all day

[FWCMuZiK]

I just use Serious Mass

[i4nb63]

My first gainer was cytosport cookies n creme. I packed on weight but had a hard time getting it down. Next I tried True Mass strawberry which tasted amazing but just wasn't worth the price. Then I got cytosport banana and strawberry. I didnt think either tasted that great so I always did two scoops of each in a shake which was tolerable. I just started Up Your Mass vanilla and it does down like sand and leaves me crazy bloated.

[djbaum]

My first gainer was cytosport cookies n creme. I packed on weight but had a hard time getting it down. Next I tried True Mass strawberry which tasted amazing but just wasn't worth the price. Then I got cytosport banana and strawberry. I didnt think either tasted that great so I always did two scoops of each in a shake which was tolerable. I just started Up Your Mass vanilla and it does down like sand and leaves me crazy bloated.

MHP products are no good at all imo. If it goes down at all like Probolic-SR, I feel for ya man. Like watered-down chalk... Reps for going through a tub of any MHP product!

[momo4]

I started making my own weight gainer with milk,whey,canola oil,1 bannana and natural pb. I got the recipe from this website and i got to say it tastes pretty ****in good.

u mind sharing what website ? plz and thanks.

[Binary Star]

IDS Smart Gainer is my favorite. its pretty cheap for 10lbs
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ids/smart.html

Calories 656
Calories From Fat 99
Total Fat 11g 5%
Saturated Fat 4g 18%
Cholesterol 160mg 53%
Sodium 364mg 15%
Total Carbohydrate 88g 29%
Dietary Fiber 4g 17%
Sugars 7g
Protein 51g 102%

[gposey87]

Cyto gainer is good, but if you need a little more check out AllMax QuickMass..

[Blue Blazer]

Cyto gainer is good, but if you need a little more check out AllMax QuickMass..

I took QuickMass...alright gainer I guess, nothing special...it had creatine and glutamine in it, for some that's a plus, for me, a minus

[nip]

hey guys, the names nip. i'm pretty new to this website. i got a question, which one is more stronger, hydorxcut hardcore or thermogain hardcore??

what do you guys think?

[silx29]

i put on 8lbs in 3 weeks with cytogainer. i was very surprise with the taste of chocolate malt. i'm going to get another tub =].

[zoeba]

i just bought a 5lb tub of Up Your Mass and reading the reviews here i think it was a big mistake.. can anyone log if they made any gains on it... please.. cuz i havent opened it yet.. and can sell it.. if its a **** product.

[Blue Blazer]

hey guys, the names nip. i'm pretty new to this website. i got a question, which one is more stronger, hydorxcut hardcore or thermogain hardcore??

what do you guys think?

What does this have to do with weight gainers? Post this in the supplement section or in the supplement wars under fat burners

[gposey87]

i just bought a 5lb tub of Up Your Mass and reading the reviews here i think it was a big mistake.. can anyone log if they made any gains on it... please.. cuz i havent opened it yet.. and can sell it.. if its a **** product.

I didn't like it. Though it tasted like **** and didn't make any gains off of it.

[baby matty]

cookies + cream cytogainer = great

[tbo27]

Wow. That was a lot of posts to read.

Well after reading all of what everybody had to say, I'm ordering a 6lb tub of cytogainer tonight. Hopefully itll be here before my N-Large II runs out.

I've been taking the nlarge (not very regularly, though) for a couple months now, but the place I get it from jacked the price up 10 bucks. So even though its worked pretty well for me (130 to 145 in a couple months), I'm gonna give cytogainer a try after all the good news im hearing.

The only thing that bugs me is that it has creatine in it, which im not a huge fan of. So I have a question: Has anybody used cytogainer for a while, and then gone off it? If you have, did you 'deflate' at all.. like some people say you do when you get off creatine?

[silx29]

Wow. That was a lot of posts to read.

Well after reading all of what everybody had to say, I'm ordering a 6lb tub of cytogainer tonight. Hopefully itll be here before my N-Large II runs out.

I've been taking the nlarge (not very regularly, though) for a couple months now, but the place I get it from jacked the price up 10 bucks. So even though its worked pretty well for me (130 to 145 in a couple months), I'm gonna give cytogainer a try after all the good news im hearing.

The only thing that bugs me is that it has creatine in it, which im not a huge fan of. So I have a question: Has anybody used cytogainer for a while, and then gone off it? If you have, did you 'deflate' at all.. like some people say you do when you get off creatine?

i was iffy about getting cyto cuz of creatine, but it only has 3grams per serving. thats not alot. from what i read so i don't think you have anything to worry about.

[zoeba]

i have used 3 tubs of cytogainer myself thats roughly 6lbs x 3

i did get a deflated feel after coming off it... it must be the creatine.. im sure.. anyway jst wantd to let people know all in all cytogainer is one of the best weight gainers out there.. definately does its job and tastes phenomenal

[gposey87]

deflated...hahahahah

[VietBoy]

awesome thread, thinking bout getting cytogainer. cant wait =)

[IrishHawkeye7]

just got my first batch of RealGains in the mail yesterday. Chocolate tastes awsome. im hoping to get from 142 to 150 in about 4 weeks, then hopefully to about 160 by the beginning of May. ive gone from 135 to 142 in about 3 weeks using only ON 100% whey, so hopefully RG puts helps get me there. ill let you know how effective this stuff is in the coming weeks,

[BUGIARDO]

how big is the sample of real gains that they send?

[AMillane7]

^^ its a quarter of a serving..usually 2 of each flavor

[topwop]

how do u guys gain all that weight. ive been on cyitogainer for a month maybe a pound or 2. i take 2 scoops in the morning/2 scoops post workout/ 2scoops before bed am i taking enough ???

[silx29]

what i did was,

i took 4 scoops in the morning

just took whey shake for post workout

4 scoops after dinner or before sleep.

also since cytogain had some creatine in it, i drank about 2-3 bottles of water a day.

i gained 10lbs in a month. i'm not sure if its healthy to gain this fast though.

started out at 154, i am currenty at 164/5.
im just trying to get 175 180 and start cutting.

[j4l4p3n0]

Out of all the weight gainers I have tried (True Mass, IsoGainer, Mammoth 4000 and Cytogainer) I would have to say my favourite was IsoGainer. 600 calories when you mix it in water, which it reccomends but for some reason it tastes like ass in milk...

[Who?]

How long do you have to take a weightgainer( cytogainer for example) to see results? I'd be using it in addition tyo my diet, not as a meal replacement. It seems like you'd have to go through a couple of tubs to see any results, and $50 a tub is expensive for a 9 day supply.

[Blue Blazer]

How long do you have to take a weightgainer( cytogainer for example) to see results? I'd be using it in addition tyo my diet, not as a meal replacement. It seems like you'd have to go through a couple of tubs to see any results, and $50 a tub is expensive for a 9 day supply.

50 bucks for 9 days, impossible...is it really?

Links?

I've taken cyto before but can't remember it being that expensive...

[tbo27]

It's not. Well, it can be. The 6 lb tub that I just bought has 18 servings at 4 scoops each. It cost me 38 bucks total.

However, the crazy directions on the tub say to take 3 servings a day. I take it with milk, and that would be almost 2700 calories a DAY.. I think thats over-doing it, so I think im just gonna take 1 a day. But I guess if you did it by the directions, you'd be paying 40 bucks for a 6 day supply. Crazy.

How often/much does everyone else that's on cytogainer take? I think 1 serving a day is what I'll stick with, but what's everyone else use?

[FWCMuZiK]

taking gainers with water ur not gonna see any real gains

[SupaFly78]

i just bought a 5lb tub of Up Your Mass and reading the reviews here i think it was a big mistake.. can anyone log if they made any gains on it... please.. cuz i havent opened it yet.. and can sell it.. if its a **** product.


"Up Your Mass" is actually a fantastic product, I highly recommend it. It has an awesome carb content. I put on 10 pounds in 2 months and was using the Vanilla flavor. I recommend splitting the serving size up though, so mix 2 scoops (instead of 4) with 12-16 ounces of milk and it tastes like a vanilla milkshake. I made a mistake though and recently bought at 5lb tub of the cinnabun flavor, it tastes great if you actually like cinnamon, but I don't. Anyone want to buy it off me, there's only 4 scoops missing, I'll hook ya up for cheap, PM me if you're interested, I have PayPal.

[PrimetimeNoob]

been using cytogainer banana creme for a couple of weeks and i like the gains but not a great fan of the taste. Ordered chocolate mint last week and waiting to try it. Cant wait!

[07G35S]

just got my first batch of RealGains in the mail yesterday. Chocolate tastes awsome. im hoping to get from 142 to 150 in about 4 weeks, then hopefully to about 160 by the beginning of May. ive gone from 135 to 142 in about 3 weeks using only ON 100% whey, so hopefully RG puts helps get me there. ill let you know how effective this stuff is in the coming weeks,

What a coincidence... I too weigh about 145 pounds and was going to get some Univ Real Gains. I look forward to comparing our results.

[krizpul]

GUYZ I M FRM INDIA & MY AGE IS 19 YEARS & MY WEIGHT IS ONLY 110LBS
MY HEIGHT IS 5.9". I USED UNIVERSAL GREAT GAIN I HELPED ME TO GAIN 8LB IN a MONTH. BUT I WANT THAT U SUGGEST ME A PRODUCT WHICH REALLY WORKS.

[krizpul]

can i use gainer without going gym?
which will work well=
serious mass
real gain
cytogainer
n-large2
plz rpl

[PrimetimeNoob]

can i use gainer without going gym?
which will work well=
serious mass
real gain
cytogainer
n-large2
plz rpl


why not go to the gym? if you don't most of the weight is going to be fat. I say cytogainer anyways, i like it.

[mikebarto]

i just used the GNC brand weight gainer 2200 and i gained about 10 pounds in one week and this is after I've been trying to gain for the past year and a half off of other stuff. It took me a year and a half to gain 20 pounds then I tried this and gained 10 in a week. It's only 5 servings so I cut them in half and made it 10 servings... i couldn't believe the results

[GiambiFan]

chalk another one up for Serious Mass. Just post workout usually, occasionally as an MRP.

I've used the GNC 2200 man and trust me if you don't keep your foot on the gas you're going to lose all of that weight. Yes, gaining all that weight so quick was amazing to me but it equally sucked when I lost all of it when I got off of it. Thankfully I then upped by whole food intake after quittin git and gained back the weight I lost AND KEPT IT.

[CHEEF]

just get some

oats
cocoa
whey
skim milk powder
ground almonds/hazlenuts

bob your fukin uncle :)

[westvaboi]

i just started lifting and using True Mass...ive gained 17 pounds in 3 weeks. from 141 to 158.

[EvolutionisT7]

Hello everyone,

i was just curious to all the threads and post dealing with bulking and making use of weight gainers to increase in mass or what not. I currently weigh around 220-228 (guessing fat + water weight + muscle = 228 and 190 lean mass not sure though). The weird thing is a vast majority of the guys in this forum, that are around my height (5'9"), weighing around 190-230lbs are all muscle and yet with me i don't look that big (look at my stats on bodyspace) some of my friends who are actual bodybuilders from where i live have said i just have some undeveloped muscle somewhere (not sculpted out) or i just basically have big bones or something, coz basically they say and i could see for myself that im not in any way FAT maybe just a little chubby but overall they are just confused to why i weigh so much for my height lol. I have read that in order to gain mass you got to eat a lot which i do (clean food) and taking up weight gainers (like True mass or Mass tech). See if i take up any weight gainers i would just gain more weight hopefully mass, but in actuality i would want to maintain or maybe lose 10-15lbs but build a leaned out muscled body (gain mass and size and not so much with water/fat weight)

My question is should i get a weight gainer, if i want to gain more mass? or would i just be ok with the regular whey like Nitrotech hardcore or syntha 6 or probolic SR, to name a few??

Im currently bulking with solid clean food 5x a day and regular whey protein shakes 2x a day
carbohydrates intake per day 380-420grams
protein intake per day 320-350grams
calorie intake 3500-4100
my current weight 220-230

Any good advice would be a very big help thanks!

[mikebarto]

chalk another one up for Serious Mass. Just post workout usually, occasionally as an MRP.

I've used the GNC 2200 man and trust me if you don't keep your foot on the gas you're going to lose all of that weight. Yes, gaining all that weight so quick was amazing to me but it equally sucked when I lost all of it when I got off of it. Thankfully I then upped by whole food intake after quittin git and gained back the weight I lost AND KEPT IT.

I dunno man, i didn't lose any of it after I quit taking it and it REALLY helped my appetite and become able to eat more (a whole meal more per day), which may be a reason why I didn't lose it, but I do see what you're saying. plus you need to have a sweet metabolism or all the weight you gain is going to be all fat.

[VietBoy]

just bought a 10lb tub of muscle juice. will update you guys on the product in the up coming weeks =)

[Cdub11456]

IsoPure Mass Chocolate is the best gainer I've tasted by far

[Skyblob]

Iso Mass Xtreme Gainer .. pwns just go look at website .. u must say ahh he's only 17 no experience ! but i know what im talking about ;) go take a look!

http://www.ultimatenutrition.com/catalog/sports_nutrition/isomass_xtreme_gainer.html#

[Universal Rep]

What a coincidence... I too weigh about 145 pounds and was going to get some Univ Real Gains. I look forward to comparing our results.

Let me know how it goes bro.

[PrimetimeNoob]

woot! got chocolate mint shake cytogainer and i have to say it is AWESOME!

[GKendall]

I've just started taking ON Serious mass (1 scoop in the morning with breakfast (oats) and 1 scoop in the evening with dinner) and ON 100% Whey (2 scoops post workout) all with semi-skimmed milk (about 3 pints per day)


Do people think that will be enough?

I eat very well too - 2x tuna roll & 2x apples for lunch, dinner will be pasta/rice/lentils/potato with bacon/chicken/fish/eggs

[vulaj15]

today i bought gnc's brand of weight gainer which has 2200 calories per serving. but when i tried it this morning it was the most horrible thing ever, it mixed horribly, made me feel bloated and horrible. has ne1 else tried this stuff or is it just me cause im sure no weight gainer is really delightful

[dawgs28]

today i bought gnc's brand of weight gainer which has 2200 calories per serving. but when i tried it this morning it was the most horrible thing ever, it mixed horribly, made me feel bloated and horrible. has ne1 else tried this stuff or is it just me cause im sure no weight gainer is really delightful

I want to get this but I imagine it would be nasty. Is it thick as hell?

[xjeffx]

woot! got chocolate mint shake cytogainer and i have to say it is AWESOME!

Damn right!!! I just got mine in the mail today from BB.com. It's sooooooo good. The chocolate malt is good, and definitely drinkable but I don't necessarily look forward to it. I'm gonna have a hard time not drinking too much of the mint!

Over the past (almost) 2 weeks I've been drinking at least one a day with a decent bulk diet (I usually get 5 meals a day including a cytogainer or the TrueMass I just finished). I've gained 4 pounds in just under 2 weeks.

For months I only had one post-workout but still wasn't getting enough protein or calories. Bumping everything up has helped tremendously.

TrueMass chocolate tastes very good too but has too much sugar per serving for my tastes.

[GiambiFan]

today i bought gnc's brand of weight gainer which has 2200 calories per serving. but when i tried it this morning it was the most horrible thing ever, it mixed horribly, made me feel bloated and horrible. has ne1 else tried this stuff or is it just me cause im sure no weight gainer is really delightful

Yeah I used two tubs worth, mostly last summer. First time I used it...wow. I never felt so horrible in my life. But it was my first experience with a weigh gainer. You should get more used to it as you take it more.

It's really not a bad product. I gained a lot of weight on it just using a few scoops a day. Please do not take it as much as they recommend.

However, I think there are better products out there. Serious Mass seems to be a lot smoother and just better put together than the GNC brand (or GNC anything).

[Blue Blazer]

Out of all the weight gainers I have tried (True Mass, IsoGainer, Mammoth 4000 and Cytogainer) I would have to say my favourite was IsoGainer. 600 calories when you mix it in water, which it reccomends but for some reason it tastes like ass in milk...

I also liked IsoGainer, I thought it tasted like @ss even mixed with water lol...good gainer though, would try again sometime


Iso Mass Xtreme Gainer .. pwns just go look at website .. u must say ahh he's only 17 no experience ! but i know what im talking about ;) go take a look!

http://www.ultimatenutrition.com/catalog/sports_nutrition/isomass_xtreme_gainer.html#

No lol, just no haha

[krizpul]

10 lbs tub...
i taste like **** i donno how will i finish it...

[silx29]

hmmm so i gained 15lbs in a month.

im stoked that i gained this much weight in a month, but im questioning how healthy it is for my body?

should i slow it down a bit?

i was on cytogainer by the way. chocolate mint is good, but it was pretty thick compared to chocolate malt.

[VietBoy]

hmmm so i gained 15lbs in a month.

im stoked that i gained this much weight in a month, but im questioning how healthy it is for my body?

should i slow it down a bit?

i was on cytogainer by the way. chocolate mint is good, but it was pretty thick compared to chocolate malt.

how did u incorporate it into your diet? its hard for me to

[vulaj15]

Yeah I used two tubs worth, mostly last summer. First time I used it...wow. I never felt so horrible in my life. But it was my first experience with a weigh gainer. You should get more used to it as you take it more.

It's really not a bad product. I gained a lot of weight on it just using a few scoops a day. Please do not take it as much as they recommend.

However, I think there are better products out there. Serious Mass seems to be a lot smoother and just better put together than the GNC brand (or GNC anything).


Yeah im kinda pissed i bought it but i got it on sale with a tub of some whey protein payed about 50 bucks for both of em, if i had a blender im sure it would be ok and i only tried it with water today im gunna give it a go with milk. Im sure it will do its job, i just dont think ill ever be looking forward to taking my daily doses of weight gainer.

[mikebarto]

gnc's 2200 is a great gainer and it's worth the nastyness and bloating. just take one big scoop after every meal, not 3 like they suggest. i gained almost 10 pounds in a week with it. it truly works

[ronPaul]

I don't get it
why get a weight gainer when u can get a lean gainer?

I just finished using IsoGainer from Nutrabolics, I used half the serving scoops they suggested and gained alot of weight.

I gained around 12lbs, with alot of muscle in there
Since i took everyone is telling me i look thicker and broader.

[mikebarto]

I don't get it
why get a weight gainer when u can get a lean gainer?

I just finished using IsoGainer from Nutrabolics, I used half the serving scoops they suggested and gained alot of weight.

I gained around 12lbs, with alot of muscle in there
Since i took everyone is telling me i look thicker and broader.

Because not everyone can gain weight that easily man. I can barely see any gains from anything without mass protein gainers, because my metabolism is VERY high. It's all about your metabolism and your personal goal of how much weight you really want to put on. Many people use mass gainers, because you can put on weight faster to get to lifting more weight faster then after you reach your goal just cut the weight you gain in your stomach off and try to keep the weight everywhere else. well at least thats just me.

[silentdj]

I cant get muscle juice in my country so..
what is the next closest weight gainer
Optimum Serious Mass?
thanks

[GiambiFan]

Yeah im kinda pissed i bought it but i got it on sale with a tub of some whey protein payed about 50 bucks for both of em, if i had a blender im sure it would be ok and i only tried it with water today im gunna give it a go with milk. Im sure it will do its job, i just dont think ill ever be looking forward to taking my daily doses of weight gainer.

Dude that **** did NOT mix well with milk, which pissed me off to no end. I could still taste the powder when I mixed it with milk. It seemed that no matter how much I blended it, it wouldn't mix.

Fortunately, I still gained a good amount of weight with it by just mixing it with water.

[cjgeth]

dymatize megagainer..cheap stuff

[Duff36]

i've been on Cytosport Cytogainer for some time now. I get bloated from it once in a while but it's all about the end result......

[silentdj]

Just Purchased Optimum Nutrition Serious Mass 12lbs
So ill add that with the new diet im on and ill give you some feed back soon =)

[vulaj15]

Dude that **** did NOT mix well with milk, which pissed me off to no end. I could still taste the powder when I mixed it with milk. It seemed that no matter how much I blended it, it wouldn't mix.

You are right i mixed it with whole milk and it felt like i was swallowing led. Not to mention the harrible taste to go along with it. I think i made a big mistake getting vanilla it doesnt mask the taste well at all i cant even taste the flavor, but i have put on about 2 pounds in around the 4 days ive been using it. Its doing what i want making me look thicker.

[firer0ck]

big fan of the Cytogainer myself

[techKO_]

ON Pro Complex Gainer...

[silx29]

how did u incorporate it into your diet? its hard for me to

go back a page. but here what i did:

4 scoops after breakfast

whey shake after work out

4 scoops after dinner or before sleep.

i do get bloated also, but it goes away pretty quick for me.

[NDauchot]

Its a shame Dorian Yates pulled out of it, but with thirty pounds down I have gained thirty pounds. If you check the nutrition facts they speek for themselves. Its a brilliant product but you cant get your hands on it anymore since the company decided to enhance the flavor and turn it into a whey...
Goodbye Casein pro-peptide. Welcome good tasting whey protein... like I cant find that anywhere else...

[GrimRep_er]

I just ordered some a few days ago, I've never had it before. I decided to go with this based on some of these forums. I like the fact that it's not loaded with a ton of sugar. Hopefully it's good.

On these gainers, how quickly can you expect to put on weight? Does it come fast? How much will it effect your bodyfat%?

[KinGas]

Using Cytosport Cytogainer Vanilla and getting good gains.
Taste fair good with water but I find it imposssible to drink with milk.

[contiswrong]

well i just wanted to say that conti has no idea what hes talking about..

[CLP1]

Just received the 2 container of cyto gainer I ordered today. The chocolate mint taste great and the cookies & cream not so great. I find it hard to use 4 scoop per serving, kinda thick.

[SnoopDogg]

I already gained 5-10 pounds with Pro Lab N-Large just by drinking one serving a day in about a month. It's number four on the list, but should I switch to Cytogainer since everyone seems to recognize that as the best?

[Blue Blazer]

I already gained 5-10 pounds with Pro Lab N-Large just by drinking one serving a day in about a month. It's number four on the list, but should I switch to Cytogainer since everyone seems to recognize that as the best?

Well it is lower in sugar that is certan and a nutritionist who has been selling supps foe years once told me she didn't like the quality of prolabs whey...saying it was inferior to products like cytosport and optimum

[DCVolcom]

hey big help question new at this stuff lol
okay bought True Mass serving 66grams of protein...800 calories in 16oz of milk with 3 scoops Serving Size 3 scoops (145g)

when you put 3 scoops on 16oz of milk how much protein you gettin from that?

some dude told me you divide 66 to 3 scoops so 66 divide 3 scoops you get 22 grams of protien in 16oz

but when you divide 2 scoops...66 divide in 2 scoops you get 33 grams of protien doesn't sound right i don't know lol
would be great if anyone know
thank!

[SnoopDogg]

Well it is lower in sugar that is certan and a nutritionist who has been selling supps foe years once told me she didn't like the quality of prolabs whey...saying it was inferior to products like cytosport and optimum

Will Cytosport make we want to throw up though? I eat so much now, it might be hard to swallow 4 scoops of this stuff.

[mandude]

whats better to take, CytoGainer or Serious Mass? What is the difference? I cant really tell from the ingrediants (besides SM having more vitamins and minerals) but people say they are getting more gains on Cyto. I weight like 120 and need massive weight gain, but dont want to get SUPER fat. let me know whats best.

[GiambiFan]

I do know Cytogainer has more creatine and glutamine in it. There are a number of differences dude. But they are relatively small differences, and at 120 lbs any weight gainer is going to help you out.

[BuffEctomorph]

I just got MHP's "Up Your Mass" Vanilla flavor and using it as a nighttime right before bed shake. It doesn't interupt my sleep and I use 3 scoops (not the recommended 4, I'd rather not run out of a fricken 5lb jug that costed 35$ in 3 weeks, thanks). It tastes ALOT better than people were saying on here, I'm assuming they are using the full 4 servings and aren't using 16oz of milk.

I just dislike their claims...yah you can gain 15lbs of lean muscle in 5 weeks, if you fricken buy 3 5lb tubs and use 3 full servings a day (9 scoops!) and practically stop eating solid foods but for maybe just breakfast and dinner :P

Hmm.....that actually sounds fun and convienent as hell, I would try it if I wasn't smart :P I'm sure there's some rich idiots who are doing exactly what it says on the tub out there though.

[blendertuna]

I have been taking True Mass for a while. It is pretty decent but looking to see if there is anything better. I'm looking for gainer that has:

1. Blend of slow digesting AND whey protein

2. At least 600 calories if mixed with water, more with milk obviously

3. At least 40 grams of protein

4. Very low sugar.

Price is not an issue. I'm happy with True Mass but just thought I'd check in before I order another 5 lb tub.

Thanks!

[nguyen949]

ive been using muscle juice the past month not so bad i TRY to drink it twice a day but only 3 scoops with milk. Gained a good 10-15lbs within a month. Ive been reading alot about cytogainer but it says to drink it 3 times a day?? That is alot for me to handle...I just want something that will help me gain weight since i have a really fast metabolism...should i just stick with muscle juice or what do you guys reccomend?

[TopBoyNow]

ive been using muscle juice the past month not so bad i TRY to drink it twice a day but only 3 scoops with milk. Gained a good 10-15lbs within a month. Ive been reading alot about cytogainer but it says to drink it 3 times a day?? That is alot for me to handle...I just want something that will help me gain weight since i have a really fast metabolism...should i just stick with muscle juice or what do you guys reccomend?



Same, iv been using it with 4 scoops twice a day for a month and have gained 13lbs.. Muscle juice Rules

[AaronX]

I dunno man, i didn't lose any of it after I quit taking it and it REALLY helped my appetite and become able to eat more (a whole meal more per day), which may be a reason why I didn't lose it, but I do see what you're saying. plus you need to have a sweet metabolism or all the weight you gain is going to be all fat.

I have to agree with you on the appetite part! I took a shake of that in the morning and I'm hungry the whole day. Best part is that the gainer comes cheaper than the rest of the higher rated gainers.

[nguyen949]

guess ill just stick with muscle juice...time to mix it up with the flavor no more chocolate!

[BowflexJunnie]

Armageddeon is first pick but I still like Whey protein. Armageddeon last longer through out the workout.

[nguyen949]

do u guys take whey as well? Even tho its in some of the gainers?

[somethingrushes]

anyone else have difficulty taken n large II?? the serving size is 4 scoops. everytime i would try to take it...it would be so thick i literally had to eat it. this got old fast....almost threw up everytime. what do u guys do....take 2 scoops, then take 2 more? one scoop in divided doses throughout the day?

1. You really have to use a good mixer (get a little handheld mixer for like $10 bucks) - with the suggested amount of liquid it says to add, it will have the consistency of a thick shake. If you aren't mixing it well - it will be a chunky syrup consistency. Not fun to drink.

2. Use skim-milk instead of whole-milk and it will be a little bit smoother.

Even so, I do what you asked about and just take 2 scoops at a time. Easier on the stomach for me and keeps me from dreading it so much.

[xjeffx]

do u guys take whey as well? Even tho its in some of the gainers?

I typically have a single serving of ON 100% Whey in the morning with my breakfast (25g protein + milk) and/or sometimes one throughout the day if I'm lacking in my protein intake for the day.


1. You really have to use a good mixer (get a little handheld mixer for like $10 bucks) - with the suggested amount of liquid it says to add, it will have the consistency of a thick shake. If you aren't mixing it well - it will be a chunky syrup consistency. Not fun to drink.

2. Use skim-milk instead of whole-milk and it will be a little bit smoother.

Even so, I do what you asked about and just take 2 scoops at a time. Easier on the stomach for me and keeps me from dreading it so much.

I was using a blender & single serving cup from Oster. Although I couldn't fit enough liquid to go along w/ the powder in the cup, it blended things very nicely. Some ice helps keep it cool but even then I can only fit 8-10oz of milk or water + 4 scoops of CytoGainer or TrueMass.

Lately I've been using the Blender Bottles (available on BB.com). They are perfect for 16 oz of milk + a full serving of CytoGainer and they mix things together VERY well! I actually like it better than the blender because the blender tends to make things frothy.

[vuduchile21]

Cytogainer Vanilla Shake. Morning, Post WO, and before bed. 2 Scoops, handfull of frozen blueberries, a frozen strawberry, and cup of cranberry juice. 12lb gain in 3 weeks. Gotta switch to Muscle Milk when im on my cut cycle.

[tbo27]

I already gained 5-10 pounds with Pro Lab N-Large just by drinking one serving a day in about a month. It's number four on the list, but should I switch to Cytogainer since everyone seems to recognize that as the best?

I would give cytogainer a shot. Ive been taking N-Large II for a couple months and made pretty good gains on it, but just switched to cytogainer a couple weeks ago cuz the place i bought nlarge from raised the price 10 bucks. And i have to say, the cytogainer Choc. Caramel Swirl tastes great, is easy to take down (2 scoops w/8 oz milk is what i do), and im getting better results than N-Large. Gained about 5 lbs in the last 2 weeks. So id try it out if youre lookin for something different, otherwise they're both great products so far IMO.

[jba4289]

I just ordered some CytoSport CytoGainer Strawberry 6 pound tub.

I'm pretty excited to try this out..

[SnoopDogg]

I would give cytogainer a shot. Ive been taking N-Large II for a couple months and made pretty good gains on it, but just switched to cytogainer a couple weeks ago cuz the place i bought nlarge from raised the price 10 bucks. And i have to say, the cytogainer Choc. Caramel Swirl tastes great, is easy to take down (2 scoops w/8 oz milk is what i do), and im getting better results than N-Large. Gained about 5 lbs in the last 2 weeks. So id try it out if youre lookin for something different, otherwise they're both great products so far IMO.

Do you or anyone else take the 3 servings a day it recommends? That would be incredibly expensive for me since one Cytogainer lasts 18 servings.

[Blue Blazer]

Same, iv been using it with 4 scoops twice a day for a month and have gained 13lbs.. Muscle juice Rules

Crazy gains bro, I'm gonna give this a try, I started by taking 2 scoop servings, then realized it wasn't enough, then did 3, and only put on 3 lbs in a month (dieting wasn't constant either, because of hockey tournaments and such)

I told myself yesterday I was going to start taking full servings this time, I'm picking 2 tubs of Muscle Juice tomorrow

[The_Prodigy]

Ultimate Nutrition's Muscle Juice was pretty good for me although it is too sweet.

[max_zero]

So i've been reading the threads for a while now, and i'm starting to get confused and tired.
I quit smoking about 2 years ago, and within a year, i piled on an extra 50lbs.
Now i've decided to hit the gym and burn off the fat while gaining muscle.

I need a very good supplement which will pile on the muscle mass while working off the fat i have around the belly.

Do i need a calorie dense or high protein and low calorie supplement?
I'm in a fix here. Someone help me out please.

Thanks.

[dMENTION]

So i've been reading the threads for a while now, and i'm starting to get confused and tired.
I quit smoking about 2 years ago, and within a year, i piled on an extra 50lbs.
Now i've decided to hit the gym and burn off the fat while gaining muscle.

I need a very good supplement which will pile on the muscle mass while working off the fat i have around the belly.

Do i need a calorie dense or high protein and low calorie supplement?
I'm in a fix here. Someone help me out please.

Thanks.

Just stick with pure whey protein man. Thats your best bet along with a high protein diet. Weight gainers are insensitive to fact the they may cause fat gain. they contain high carbs and calories which wont help the loss of unwanted fat.

[Anonymoushead]

Best Overall Weight Gainer?

T-Bone steak.

Forget expensive supplements.

[Richard2002]

BSN True Mass work perfectly

[LORDCHIKA]

Id have to say youre all wrong. Twin Labs Super Gainer Fuel pro is the best. It has 1860 cal. 100g protein. 33g of fat vitamins and minerals and it contains all the vital amino acids .

[PrimetimeNoob]

T-Bone steak.

Forget expensive supplements.

Steaks can also get expensive.

[Anonymoushead]

BBQ chicken then. Whatever.

[jeremyleinen]

muscle juice looked good until I saw that its 28g's of fat per serving and its ALL saturated. Thats not good.

[quicksta]

i'd have 2 go with the cytogainer! good stuff! taste great 2.

[legendz411]

Poly or mono?

And it is Transaturated fats that you want to avoid at all cost.

[blueadept33]

Poly or mono?

And it is Transaturated fats that you want to avoid at all cost.

Islanders ate transfats from coconuts all the time and stayed lean, if it wasn't so f'n processed they would be fine, just sayin'

[mr.teen]

pro complex gainer...great...

digestive enzymes 85 carbs 50 grams protein. vitamins. low fat. and it is the THINNEST weight gainer in the world.. like omg it mixes perfectly... its so think...like strawberry milk..seriously. oh god...

[jeremyleinen]

Poly or mono?

And it is Transaturated fats that you want to avoid at all cost.

I never said that saturated fat should be avoided at all costs, but its pretty well accepted to keep it limited to 30%of your total fat intake.

[legendz411]

Islanders ate transfats from coconuts all the time and stayed lean, if it wasn't so f'n processed they would be fine, just sayin'

I agree. Most things in our diets wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so heavily processed.


I never said that saturated fat should be avoided at all costs, but its pretty well accepted to keep it limited to 30%of your total fat intake.

Well said. Agreed, although everyone IS different

[Reecay]

Hey im new to this site, i just started getting into the supplements and i was wondering if anyone has tried mutant mass and can tell me what they think, or if people think there is a better gainer out there, lemme know thanks!

[j4l4p3n0]

Muscle Juice, hands down.

[Newarkar]

pro complex gainer...great...

digestive enzymes 85 carbs 50 grams protein. vitamins. low fat. and it is the THINNEST weight gainer in the world.. like omg it mixes perfectly... its so think...like strawberry milk..seriously. oh god...

x2

somtimes I use Cytogainer to mix things up, good choice too

[sl4nd3r]

OMFG I just got my 10 lb tub of Muscle Juice yesterday, took it twice like it recommended, this stuff is a HUGE upgrade to the ****ty GNC weight gainer I was taking, and it's cheaper for a larger amount too. Mixes well and tastes great.

I highly recommend muscle juice.

[nguyen949]

^ i like muscle juice too and it is pretty cheap compared to everything else..i gained 20 lbs in 2 months and im a pretty hard gainer...

[Beezy33]

I pound Cytogainer Cookies N Creme twice a day, 3 scoops with about 16-20oz of milk (I love milk). One for mid-morning and one before bed.

I'm an extremely hard gainer, but by using this I've put on about 10-12lbs of good muscle over the last 8 weeks or so, along with a pretty clean bulking diet.

I don't find the taste bad at all and digests easy although sometimes if I drink too fast in the morning I get a little tired, weird. The banana one was good for a while too.

Overall, I'm happy with Cytogainer.

[JQ729]

Has any one else mentioned Universal Nutrition's Real Gains? I think this stuff is F'in awesome. It mixes up incredibly easy and even tastes good in water. The chocolate tastes better than any other protein i've taken. I buy it from a site that sells it for $25 for the 7 pound bucket even though i think it sells for like 60 on universal's website. PM me if you'd like the website I use. And the most important part, i gained 23 mostly lean pounds in 2 months. Check out my profile for pics. Try it!!! You will bow to it...Haha!

[FWCMuZiK]

I started using Serious Mass ive seen no gains I had so many gains off HeavyWeight gainer

[skinny ee]

how is realgains weight gainer?

[CagedBeast]

I started using Serious Mass ive seen no gains I had so many gains off HeavyWeight gainer

It derives its carb source from sugar and malto. The cals to protein ration is rock bottom. Not good.

[onaquest]

I read up on some positive muscle juice reviews here and decided to go out and buy some (after wasting years of money on worthless weight gainers argh!) I've been taking muscle juice for about 2 months now and have gained 13kgs. Went from 62kgs to 75 kgs.

Gained a bit of fat in the belly because of all the sugar but have managed to gain decent lean mass at the same time..ive never been able to gain a kilo before so im pretty damn happy. Recommend it for any hardgainer out there!!

If you're eating the right food in the right amount, a decent weight gainer and some weight training - you can gain the mass you want!

[d-mane]

only thing ive tried is cyto gainer.....and i love it....the pounds are adding up quicker than ever now

I love Cyto Gainer. It is by far the best tasting product that I've come across and It mixes within seconds. Its like 65G of protein and 900 calories when mixed with milk.

I tried AllMax QuickMass and it was terrible. It didnt mix at all (maybe I was used to cyto gainer) it was like drinking sand. Oh and it tasted like shart. Supposedly its good, but I couldnt get past the nastyness.

[Idontlikeit]

I am about to buy 2 6lb of cytogainer. i've tried GNC 2200 b4 did gain some but i used it on n off so that was a waste of money. anyways what are some good flavors? and how should i mix this? Can I mix 1cup of 2%milk and one scoop of cyto? thats how i did it for GNC stuff 1cup milk and 1 scoop powder. And do you guise drink it like that or add fruits or w/e to it? Thanks

[SupaFly78]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/rtn/massbuilder.html

[justdoit08]

i have a problem with my workout

i lose weightttt everytime i go gym

i tried couple of GNC weight gainers but it didnt really workout

one thing im really trying hard to get, its to gain weightttt (i mean alot) to get bigger so so

on body building website i saw 2 top products are: CytoSport Cyto Gainer &

Prolab N-Large II

if u have experience with either of this plzzz let me knoww, what was outcome for u

i really appreciate your help



yep im jus like u..best thing is step up your diet..eat smaller meals... but remember that the weight gainers wont do the job on their own, you need to eat the right food.

[justdoit08]

I love Cyto Gainer. It is by far the best tasting product that I've come across and It mixes within seconds. Its like 65G of protein and 900 calories when mixed with milk.

I tried AllMax QuickMass and it was terrible. It didnt mix at all (maybe I was used to cyto gainer) it was like drinking sand. Oh and it tasted like shart. Supposedly its good, but I couldnt get past the nastyness.

what flavour are you taking as im taking vanilla and i think its disgusting lol

[justdoit08]

im currently on size on and has given me good gains of strength and pump except im stuck on chest but anyway whos tried green bulge from controlled labs? is it any good

[Cinderblock]

you can't go wrong with cyto gainer. I love it, it's the only weight gainer that gave me good results.

[saudaded]

i agree . you cant go wrong with cyto gainer. its a little spendy, but produces results. personally i subscribe to :" eat more gain more!" that means calories , carbs , and 1 gram of protien for every pound you weigh. 218lbs = 218 grams of protien a day.

[Idontlikeit]

I am about to buy 2 6lb of cytogainer. i've tried GNC 2200 b4 did gain some but i used it on n off so that was a waste of money. anyways what are some good flavors? and how should i mix this? Can I mix 1cup of 2%milk and one scoop of cyto? thats how i did it for GNC stuff 1cup milk and 1 scoop powder. And do you guise drink it like that or add fruits or w/e to it? Thanks
^^^

[d-mane]

what flavour are you taking as im taking vanilla and i think its disgusting lol

Chocolate Malt. It REALLY tastes like a chocolate shake. I havent tried the others because I stick with what I like. Dont get me wrong, Im sure there are other delicious flavours... I just dont wanna risk wasting my money on something gross that I wont drink.

[Blue Blazer]

Chocolate Malt. It REALLY tastes like a chocolate shake. I havent tried the others because I stick with what I like. Dont get me wrong, Im sure there are other delicious flavours... I just dont wanna risk wasting my money on something gross that I wont drink.

Well I haven't like one single flavour of any gainer or protein powder I've ever tried haha

I just block my nose and chug em down, a good taste would be nice though lol

[claudev]

best buy would have to be universal real gains hands down, great product.

[Universal Rep]

best buy would have to be universal real gains hands down, great product.

Looking forward to the 10 pounders...

[APD221]

Okay, I just ordered the 10lb tub of Muscle Juice..... from bb.com mind you, and was curious about something. I've read about some pretty awesome sounding homemade gainers and props to those who shared their recipes. My question is how useless would it be to maybe add small amounts of those clean ingredients to ones current gainer supp? Such as 1/4 to 1/2 cup oats and 1 tbsp PB and so forth?

[whtmthiker]

cytogainer worked wonders for me. Mixes super well and tastes great on top of it.

[APD221]

How can Cytosport not see that their product is vastly more expensive than most and not lower the price to be more competitive?

[zeebodybuilder]

cytogainer tastes great mixes easily so i would use that again.

[knarf1]

Okay, I just ordered the 10lb tub of Muscle Juice..... from bb.com mind you, and was curious about something. I've read about some pretty awesome sounding homemade gainers and props to those who shared their recipes. My question is how useless would it be to maybe add small amounts of those clean ingredients to ones current gainer supp? Such as 1/4 to 1/2 cup oats and 1 tbsp PB and so forth?

Calories in vs Calories out dude, do what you need to to meet your goals. If you need more, add more. You aren't making the weight gainer any more 'clean'.

Milk, Oats, Peanuts, Bananas, Whey = mo' lotta clean calories, and the same effort as taking two scoops out of a tub and then adding stuff to it.

[PozzSka]

Have any of you ever tried just eating more food, instead of these products?

A steak and 2 potatoes has better nutritional value + the same 50g of protein and 80 grams of carbs that a shake has.

[rugby121]

Have any of you ever tried just eating more food, instead of these products?

A steak and 2 potatoes has better nutritional value + the same 50g of protein and 80 grams of carbs that a shake has.

my shake has 250g of carbs and 10 from suger (Serious mass). But ya, i also am cooking 2 potatoes & steak atm anyway. Check my eating log out

[rugby121]

Okay, I just ordered the 10lb tub of Muscle Juice..... from bb.com mind you, and was curious about something. I've read about some pretty awesome sounding homemade gainers and props to those who shared their recipes. My question is how useless would it be to maybe add small amounts of those clean ingredients to ones current gainer supp? Such as 1/4 to 1/2 cup oats and 1 tbsp PB and so forth?

i just did that. not nice but o well more calories.

[APD221]

Cost per serving:

Weight gain shake - roughly $1.50 maybe

Steak and 2 potatos - $3.00 + ???

[Edge118]

I pound Cytogainer Cookies N Creme twice a day, 3 scoops with about 16-20oz of milk (I love milk). One for mid-morning and one before bed.

I'm an extremely hard gainer, but by using this I've put on about 10-12lbs of good muscle over the last 8 weeks or so, along with a pretty clean bulking diet.

I don't find the taste bad at all and digests easy although sometimes if I drink too fast in the morning I get a little tired, weird. The banana one was good for a while too.

Overall, I'm happy with Cytogainer.

Heck yeah! I just got my tub of cytogainer yesterday and it's amazing. 580 calories and it mixes great. No blender needed

[Antonio]

What flavors would you guys recommend for muscle juice and cytogainer?

Thanks

[Panthers89Fan90]

I just got some cytogainer and decided to go with the cookies n cream because it looked the best out of any of the other flavors. I hope I made a good choice lol. Anyways, with the cytogainer, can you take 1-2 scoops twice a day, and will that be efficient enough to see pretty good results? The stuff can get expensive. The tub says take 4 scoops per serving, but there are only 10 servings in the tub lol, what a rip-off to do it that way. Anyways, I want it to last a couple weeks, so I hope 1-2 scoops twice a day is sufficient enough. Thanks for any feedback.

[nooblet]

I am definitely a hard gainer, so I'm looking at getting muscle juice. I just have one question:

is Muscle Juice lactose free, or close to it?

I'm having difficulty finding the answer to that. I'm lactose intolerant, so I would hate to buy 10 lbs of this stuff and have to pop a lactaid before every shake.

Thanks for any help,
Chris

[Panthers89Fan90]

Good thing for you nooblet, cytogainer has on the outside of the tub 97 or 98% lactose free. I hope this is enough for you to try the stuff. I have heard nothing but good reports about it, and I am trying it for myself now.

[AMillane7]

I just got some cytogainer and decided to go with the cookies n cream because it looked the best out of any of the other flavors. I hope I made a good choice lol. Anyways, with the cytogainer, can you take 1-2 scoops twice a day, and will that be efficient enough to see pretty good results? The stuff can get expensive. The tub says take 4 scoops per serving, but there are only 10 servings in the tub lol, what a rip-off to do it that way. Anyways, I want it to last a couple weeks, so I hope 1-2 scoops twice a day is sufficient enough. Thanks for any feedback.

ya i dont think that having a smaller dose is a bad idea, actually, i think its better

[APD221]

Okay... so I just got my tub of Muscle Juice. I haven't taken weight gainer in ages but my first impression was "Thank God!" Gone are the days of 32oz. per serving. 18oz. for Muscle Juice is much better. As for taste... I am very impressed! Chocolate tastes basically like chocolate. Who ever said this stuff is too sweet is weak, period, it tastes no more sweet than my ON 100% Whey Gold Standard. One thing you must buy if you take powdered supplements is a "Blender Bottle", it's the name of the company as well I believe. Look it up and buy it now! It has a little metal whisk ball inside of it that blends the stuff to perfection. I will post my progress in time. As of today I am 6'1 and 156lbs, 29 yrs old. We'll see how it does after this tub.

[APD221]

ya i dont think that having a smaller dose is a bad idea, actually, i think its better

Yah I concur here. I'm no expert but I just plan on drinking it with my meals. 1,000 calories per serving and they want you to take 2-3 servings a day???? Seriously now, just eat clean and half the servings and you should be alright.

[APD221]

is Muscle Juice lactose free, or close to it?


I don't think so bro... it says on mine that it contains milk, egg, and soy.

[Antonio]

Does a full serving of muscle juice leave you bloated?

[APD221]

Funny... I was just going to report. I drank my full serving approx. 30 minutes ago and I feel neither bloated nor full. Actually the opposite, I feel fine and could probably drink another one if I had to or eat a complete meal.

[nooblet]

I don't think so bro... it says on mine that it contains milk, egg, and soy.

Looks like I will be ordering cyto gainer lol...

Thanks for the responses guys.

Chris

[Blue Blazer]

Does a full serving of muscle juice leave you bloated?

It doesn't bloat me, in the morning I take a shake at 9:30 and usally I feel a bit tired, I don't feel full, just tired, maybe a sugar crash, who knows...


Funny... I was just going to report. I drank my full serving approx. 30 minutes ago and I feel neither bloated nor full. Actually the opposite, I feel fine and could probably drink another one if I had to or eat a complete meal.

Usally it takes me 2 hours to start feeling hungry after a full serving, sometimes less, and sometimes I'll eat something with the shake

[KennedyJr]

my order just came in today and i just made my first cup of cytogainer 15mins ago. I had 2 cups of fat free milk and 2 scoop of powder. I put it in a bottle and shook it up no lump at all and easy as hell to drink.. so far so good guise

[ronPaul]

if I take Cytogainer, do i need anything else?

I mean should I get another whey or is cytogainer enough?

I was thinking of cytogainer and some muscle milk before bed

makes sense?

Or should I just do cytogainer, which is more carbs, and then in a cutting phase take muscle milk?
does alot protein make no sense during bulking?

[Blue Blazer]

if I take Cytogainer, do i need anything else?

I mean should I get another whey or is cytogainer enough?

I was thinking of cytogainer and some muscle milk before bed

makes sense?

Or should I just do cytogainer, which is more carbs, and then in a cutting phase take muscle milk?
does alot protein make no sense during bulking?

Not really, high protein is good, some say when bulking to decrease the number of protein, but I usally try to get 1.5 grams per lb, so 267 grams for me

I guess since extra protein is filling, this would cause you to eat less carbs and fats, maybe that is why they recommend lowering protein intake

Either way, it depends on how much your able to eat and the time you have to eat

[ronPaul]

I guess since extra protein is filling, this would cause you to eat less carbs and fats, maybe that is why they recommend lowering protein intake


But if your sleeping then that's not an issue
I guess we'd have to find out if that truly is why they say less protein during bulking

Can anyone confirm this?
It's actually an interesting question as well

[Blue Blazer]

But if your sleeping then that's not an issue
I guess we'd have to find out if that truly is why they say less protein during bulking

Can anyone confirm this?
It's actually an interesting question as well

Here's what I recommend if you want something pre bed..

Can of tuna or any other good protein source + cottage cheese or peanut butter

Food > a bunch of different supplements

[Schuby03]

I just got some cytogainer and decided to go with the cookies n cream because it looked the best out of any of the other flavors. I hope I made a good choice lol. Anyways, with the cytogainer, can you take 1-2 scoops twice a day, and will that be efficient enough to see pretty good results? The stuff can get expensive. The tub says take 4 scoops per serving, but there are only 10 servings in the tub lol, what a rip-off to do it that way. Anyways, I want it to last a couple weeks, so I hope 1-2 scoops twice a day is sufficient enough. Thanks for any feedback.

i have the same stuff, what i do is i have one full serving throughtout the day but i just split it up with 2 scoops after workout and then two before bed.

[Panthers89Fan90]

Okay. It says take 4 scoops per serving, but theres only 10 servings. That means 40 servings total. If you use 2 scoops per serving and take it twice a day, it'll last 10 days? This isn't long enough. Thats $35 a pop every 10 days. Thats a lot in a month. Don't know what i'm going to do to get the money for it.

[Blue Blazer]

Okay. It says take 4 scoops per serving, but theres only 10 servings. That means 40 servings total. If you use 2 scoops per serving and take it twice a day, it'll last 10 days? This isn't long enough. Thats $35 a pop every 10 days. Thats a lot in a month. Don't know what i'm going to do to get the money for it.

Get a cheaper gainer that still delivers results---> Muscle Juice

[APD221]

Get a cheaper gainer that still delivers results---> Muscle Juice

Aye.... I like it fine so far and really is not near as filling as any of the others I tried. No bloating to my surprise.

[Blue Blazer]

Aye.... I like it fine so far and really is not near as filling as any of the others I tried. No bloating to my surprise.

Yep, I really like Muscle Juice, some have a problem with the high amount of sugars or the sat. fats, but this gainer delivers

[narmak5000]

i just bought optimum nutritions pro complex gainer. its relatively low sugar and high calorie which is paramount. thoughts?

i wish i found this thread earlier but i am looking for something low sugar after this bag runs out

[Antonio]

Yep, I really like Muscle Juice, some have a problem with the high amount of sugars or the sat. fats, but this gainer delivers

What flavor would you suggest?

Thanks

[Panthers89Fan90]

Yep, muscle juice is LOADED with saturated fats. I am going on cytogainer tomorrow like I listed above, and hopefully I can still continue to get another tub each 10-15 days if I get the cash.

[Lion_Heart]

I tried Cytogainer vanilla and right now chocolate malt and they both taste horrible (I drink it with water). That being said it doesn't **** up my stomach like True Mass. I going to try Muscle Juice next.

[DJDHS135]

I've been bulking HARD for 2 years on and off mostly on and i've found a few gainers that definately help... True Mass from ON Nutrition has a good 2-1 carb to protien ratio and tastes decent, only problem is mixing it all up. As with most gainers they clump and it can feel like your eating your shake rather than drinking it ;) This is opposite of HDT's Solid Gains. Mixes smoothly and tastes good. Not too haevy but it has 900 calories w/ a relatively low fat index, 2-1 carb to protien ratio... I usually add a little flaxseed or olive oil in my morning gainer shake and postworkout gainer. Long story short since November 04 - present the lean mass is +44 lbs. Never had much bodyfat so I was pretty little then, just pay attention to your timing and very little will get put towards fat.

I think you may mean BSN's True mass. ON makes Serious MASS. As far as my opinion on gainers, I would have to say Real Gains Chocolate.

[DragonDude]

BSN True Mass is one of the best, and prices have come down recently in most places for BSN products. Minor quibble can make you feel bit bloated if you take just before workpout , best 2-3 hours before, and can with some give you violent sustained flatulence often involuntary so if you are in gym can be embarrassing. Ifd you're not quite big guy full serving might be too much, but if you do take it bfore workout leave 2- 3 hours at least to really absorb it & not feel bloated when you hit gym.

[Blue Blazer]

What flavor would you suggest?

Thanks

Chocolate is good, never even bothered to try any others...

[skinny ee]

I think you may mean BSN's True mass. ON makes Serious MASS. As far as my opinion on gainers, I would have to say Real Gains Chocolate.
real gains is good but iam finding it very costly i got a tub last week and iam also done. iam going to have to find a way to save on gainer's

[cellshot]

anyone here tried Muscle Milk Collegiate?

[totti_]

high protein dymatize mega gainer any good for gaining mass/weight/muscle? 600 calories+60 grams of protein from 4 scoops a day must go alright

[TopBoyNow]

I have switched from muscle juice to pvl mutant mass 15lbs bag, Faking beast bag..... The taste is so wonderful ( chocolate ) 4 huge scoops with water is sooo smooth mmmm

[knarf1]

anyone here tried Muscle Milk Collegiate?

A buddy of mine loves it.. He uses it pre-bed and post-workout..

[Trigs52]

cytogainer is my lifeline. I'm a D1 linebacker and needed to add about 10 lbs of muscle coming in as a freshman last year. Cytogainer was a lifesaver.

[ZDub212]

I obviously work for a supplement company that produces a weight gainer and I still don't recommend them at all. If you want a weight gainer it's much easier and better in my opinion to use bulk whey, milk, oats, pb and blend together. The taste and ingredients are much better and customized to suit your needs rather than some random 60g of protein, 90g of "complex" carbs which is really just sugar...more fiber, good fats, high quality protein, actual complex carbs...try making one yourself.

That being said, if I absolutely wanted some kind of weight gainer I would just add oats to XF Ultra Peptide 2.0 Labrada ProV60 *I would add fat to that* or SAN Infusion.

[knarf1]

cytogainer is my lifeline. I'm a D1 linebacker and needed to add about 10 lbs of muscle coming in as a freshman last year. Cytogainer was a lifesaver.

Heh... Awesome first post!

[nguyen949]

i ran out of muscle juice the other day so i decided to experiment with making my own gainer. Cut up some fresh strawberries, cup of oats, bananas, 2 ts of peanut butter, yogurt, ice, and 12 ounces of whole milk. Tasted pretty delicious although it is a bit time consuming but it taste was wonderful and is proably alot healther for me...



I obviously work for a supplement company that produces a weight gainer and I still don't recommend them at all. If you want a weight gainer it's much easier and better in my opinion to use bulk whey, milk, oats, pb and blend together. The taste and ingredients are much better and customized to suit your needs rather than some random 60g of protein, 90g of "complex" carbs which is really just sugar...more fiber, good fats, high quality protein, actual complex carbs...try making one yourself.

That being said, if I absolutely wanted some kind of weight gainer I would just add oats to XF Ultra Peptide 2.0 Labrada ProV60 *I would add fat to that* or SAN Infusion.

[knarf1]

i ran out of muscle juice the other day so i decided to experiment with making my own gainer. Cut up some fresh strawberries, cup of oats, bananas, 2 ts of peanut butter, yogurt, ice, and 12 ounces of whole milk. Tasted pretty delicious although it is a bit time consuming but it taste was wonderful and is proably alot healther for me...

You have better choices than MuscleMilk, even if you decide to not make your own. MuscleMilk is the candy bar of the protein market. I would opt for having some fruits or whole grain crackers/breads along with a quality protein powder and milk, maybe some fish oil caps or/and nuts to round it off.. You don't have to make a shake out of it, just eat and drink. :D

I use a lot of protein powder, depending on my needs I have some 'sides' with it.. Gaining weight isn't a problem for me, well it is, but different than most of you :P

[APD221]

Chocolate is good, never even bothered to try any others...

Same here... It tastes fine and throw in a scoop of natty pb and you have yourself a reese's cup, or even a banana and yum! As for saturated fats.... 18g per serving, if thats too much for you than look elsewhere but I am sooo freakin skinny and my cholesterol is 90 so it has no bearing on my opinion.

[totti_]

How many times do you people use your protein powders in a day? I usually take one when i wake up and 20-30 mins before i go to sleep.

[p-trav]

SYNTHA-6


i lovvve this stuff

[Antonio]

I have switched from muscle juice to pvl mutant mass 15lbs bag, Faking beast bag..... The taste is so wonderful ( chocolate ) 4 huge scoops with water is sooo smooth mmmm

Does it make you bloated? How long after shake do you feel hungry again?

Thanks

[Trigs52]

Heh... Awesome first post!

haha thanks

[sl4nd3r]

You have better choices than MuscleMilk, even if you decide to not make your own. MuscleMilk is the candy bar of the protein market. I would opt for having some fruits or whole grain crackers/breads along with a quality protein powder and milk, maybe some fish oil caps or/and nuts to round it off.. You don't have to make a shake out of it, just eat and drink. :D

I use a lot of protein powder, depending on my needs I have some 'sides' with it.. Gaining weight isn't a problem for me, well it is, but different than most of you :P

He said muscle JUICE, not muscle MILK. Muscle Juice is an awesome weight gainer, working well for me.

[sl4nd3r]

It doesn't bloat me, in the morning I take a shake at 9:30 and usally I feel a bit tired, I don't feel full, just tired, maybe a sugar crash, who knows...



Usally it takes me 2 hours to start feeling hungry after a full serving, sometimes less, and sometimes I'll eat something with the shake


Why aren't you taking it like you're supposed to? 1 shake 30 - 45 minutes pre-workout, then another 45 - 60 minutes post-workout.

[Blue Blazer]

Why aren't you taking it like you're supposed to? 1 shake 30 - 45 minutes pre-workout, then another 45 - 60 minutes post-workout.

I've read my whole tub top to bottom and nowhere does itsay to take it pre workout and post workout

The only suggested use was this: take 1-3 times daily.

That's all I could find on my tub

Besides, why on earth would I take it pre and pwo, muscle juice is probobly the WORST gainer you could take post workout, consuming 18 grams of fat pwo is behond idiotic imo

[GetBigger264]

muscle juice is amazing product. dont buy it if you enjoy looking anorexic

[Blue Blazer]

muscle juice is amazing product. dont buy it if you enjoy looking anorexic

You got that right bro lol...this stuff will really help you pack on the pounds and quick too

And for the guys thinking by taking muscle juice, the only thing you gain is fat, well your wrong

I've had very little fat gains by taking Muscle Juice, I was impressed and surprised by how good the product was for something that passes off as a crappy gainer

[wrath_story]

Wow lotta choices in this thread, i see a lot of people here favor cytogainer and muscle juice.

what you guys think about Pure Mass 2600

http://www.precisionsupplements.ca/decadent.php?id=9 it has all the info here

i work out but ive never really messed with any suplement before so im pretty new to this. i got a lot of info just from this thread, the closest that i ever came to supplements was eating protein bars from costco. didnt do nothing for me and the taste was awful :(

but i checked Pure Mass 2600 and it says it carries over 70 grams of protein if mixed with 2% milk. GNC actually used to carry this product but they took it off the market because a lot of grocery stores started to carry it-that's where i first found it. I talked to the guy from GNC and he told me about it and said that it'll put on weight but mostly it will be fat. he says it works at the same rate as muscle juice but has a little more sugar content, but overall more calories. any experienced people have advice about this.

im 20 years old 5'9 between 170-175 pounds looking to add 50 pounds (a lot i know but that's my long term goal)

[Antonio]

Lots of you use and like muscle juice and state that it does not bloat you too much.

Do you mix it with water or milk?

Thanks

[APD221]

Good ole' vitamin d milk for me.

[Blue Blazer]

Lots of you use and like muscle juice and state that it does not bloat you too much.

Do you mix it with water or milk?

Thanks

water for me

[ezrollin]

Besides, why on earth would I take it pre and pwo, muscle juice is probobly the WORST gainer you could take post workout, consuming 18 grams of fat pwo is behond idiotic imo

why would you not want FAT POST WO?
k thnx bai

[Blue Blazer]

why would you not want FAT POST WO?
k thnx bai

You haven't/don't spend much time in the nutrition section do you...go in there and perhaps start a thread, they will be able to explain this much better than I could

[RiponGuy]

I've actually only tried two weight gainers, one from the local max muscle store and universal real gains. Real gains works much better so far and its about $32 for a 20 serving tub vs. Max Muscle's $60 a tub for 30 servings.

[GetBigger264]

muscle juice with milk always

[ZDub212]

You haven't/don't spend much time in the nutrition section do you...go in there and perhaps start a thread, they will be able to explain this much better than I could

The nutrition section...you're recommending people go there for expert advice?

Fat post workout is not a bad thing...not at all. I wouldn't have too too much, but I don't think there are too many studies to back up no fats post workout.

[Mr.Jingles]

why would you not want FAT POST WO?
k thnx bai

For me, no fat post or pre workout. Complex carbs pre for my workout. you can have fat pre but that doesnt cut it for me. Simple carbs post. dex sometimes, whatever i have.
I want to replenish muscle glycogen fast as i can.


Weight gain shake for me is just 100g powder oats,1 tbsp peanut butter, 1 scoop whey. works out to about 700kcals.
I'v never tried a proper gainer yet. will do some day!

[Blue Blazer]

The nutrition section...you're recommending people go there for expert advice?

Fat post workout is not a bad thing...not at all. I wouldn't have too too much, but I don't think there are too many studies to back up no fats post workout.

It's not bad, but never has someone recommended me to eat a high number of fats pwo, never, they always recommend protein and carbs

No I'm not saying to go to that section for expert advice, I'm saying that they could explain why low fats pwo is recommended, because I'm no expert, but some guys in that section are very smart

PWO I usally have about 9 grams, because I eat oats pwo, and for 1 cup, I get 9 grams

Muscle Juice FTW, but not for pwo lol

[ZDub212]

It's not bad, but never has someone recommended me to eat a high number of fats pwo, never, they always recommend protein and carbs

No I'm not saying to go to that section for expert advice, I'm saying that they could explain why low fats pwo is recommended, because I'm no expert, but some guys in that section are very smart

PWO I usally have about 9 grams, because I eat oats pwo, and for 1 cup, I get 9 grams

Muscle Juice FTW, but not for pwo lol

Fair enough.

[Elliptical Envy]

Did I miss a science debate in here? :D

[Blue Blazer]

Did I miss a science debate in here? :D

nah, just pretty basic stuff..

[NKim215]

What do you guys think of ON Serious Mass, other than the price? I've been on Muscle Juice and Muscle Milk for some time now. I'm currently on Muscle Juice and taking it once a day, and taking Optimum 100% Whey twice a day. I'm thinking of another gainer for better results.

[Antonio]

From the ingredients it does not look too bad.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/met/masscollegiate.html

Anyone has tried it?

[RiponGuy]

What do you guys think of ON Serious Mass, other than the price?

I thought about it but then decided I probably didn't need 250g+ carbs after my workout. Granted I'm not that big of a guy but it does seem like a little overkill to me.

[CanadianMoose]

Food! And Tons Of It!......

[Spetsnazos]

went from 175 to 192 with cytogainer in about 5 months

[TheGr8est]

edit. started new thread. sorry for the interuption

[millsy5]

Mammoth works great for me and tastes great too.

[Eat-n-Lift]

went from 175 to 192 with cytogainer in about 5 months

Yea i really like cytogainer, i just recently started taking it and i love it.

[rugby121]

I thought about it but then decided I probably didn't need 250g+ carbs after my workout. Granted I'm not that big of a guy but it does seem like a little overkill to me.

take 1/2 servings...

[sl4nd3r]

I've read my whole tub top to bottom and nowhere does itsay to take it pre workout and post workout

The only suggested use was this: take 1-3 times daily.

That's all I could find on my tub

Besides, why on earth would I take it pre and pwo, muscle juice is probobly the WORST gainer you could take post workout, consuming 18 grams of fat pwo is behond idiotic imo


You have no clue what you're talking about do you? First of all, maybe you have an older tub that doesn't have the instruction that mine does. Mine says a shake pre and post workout.

Second, I work out hard as hell, and I lift heavy, I've been taking it pre and post workout for about a month now with water and have not gained fat. I'm up to 204lbs from 194lbs this month. But then again I eat pretty clean and get most of my fat intake from the muscle juice specifically.

Take it twice a day like I say for a month or 2 and watch your gains, you'll thank me. If you start getting fat then stop, but I guarantee you won't if you workout hard.

[Spetsnazos]

Yea i really like cytogainer, i just recently started taking it and i love it.

im seein gains but drinking the full 4 scoops sometimes can suck.

it taste pretty good tho

[James_w5]

ALTAS super weight gainer 1500
1500calories per serving
106grams of protein per serving
150grams of carbohydrates per serving

[Blue Blazer]

You have no clue what you're talking about do you? First of all, maybe you have an older tub that doesn't have the instruction that mine does. Mine says a shake pre and post workout.

Second, I work out hard as hell, and I lift heavy, I've been taking it pre and post workout for about a month now with water and have not gained fat. I'm up to 204lbs from 194lbs this month. But then again I eat pretty clean and get most of my fat intake from the muscle juice specifically.

Take it twice a day like I say for a month or 2 and watch your gains, you'll thank me. If you start getting fat then stop, but I guarantee you won't if you workout hard.

Ok well for starters you're wrong, I have the old school tubs that only indicates the number of cals, fats, protein and carbs AND I also have the newer one with all the nutritional facts, sometimes it varies on the store

But all the tubs are new and are far from reaching the expiration date

Second, on BOTH new and older style tubs, NEVER did it say anywhere to take it pre and pwo

Also, I've talked to many guys and read all kinds of good articles writing by guys like Layne Norton and never did they say to eat a high number of fats pwo...

And to conclude, the instructions given on most protein tubs or any supp for that matter are often bad suggestions, hoping you will follow it, and keep buying more and more...some companies do this, not all

I'm not saying you're wrong about Ultimate Nutrition recommending to take this pre and pwo, but I've never seen it on my tubs

Post up a pic or a link of this info...

[Blue Blazer]

ALTAS super weight gainer 1500
1500calories per serving
106grams of protein per serving
150grams of carbohydrates per serving

Everyone has told me it's impossible to digest all that protein at once, but if taken in half servings it should be good, although that depends on the quality of the protein and of the carbs

[History in Effect]

gosh, i got muscle juice again blue blazer..i gained 5 pounds in 4 days

[Blue Blazer]

gosh, i got muscle juice again blue blazer..i gained 5 pounds in 4 days

Damn, you're definitely not an ecto haha...

[msoli]

thanks to this thread i got some muscle juice. i think it's going to be a staple in my diet for a while.

[History in Effect]

thanks to this thread i got some muscle juice. i think it's going to be a staple in my diet for a while.

just beware of the sugar and all that fat

[Eat-n-Lift]

im seein gains but drinking the full 4 scoops sometimes can suck.

it taste pretty good tho

Yea i usually dont take the full 4 scoops, i just take 2 scoops at a time.

[docawesome]

the best i had was prolab n-large 2.
i usually split 2 servings into 4 shakes throughout the day, so it wasn't too hard to get it all down.

food (and lots of it) is hands down the best one out there though

[Austin109]

seriously guys give this one a try.

Syntha 6 (any flavor)

Power Bar energy gel (buy a box its cheaper)

mix these 2 in a shaker cup with 40-60g protien and 100g carbs.

tasty, and it works really well

[Bowtiejeep]

Beef. /end thread.

[FWCMuZiK]

just beware of the sugar and all that fat

a lot of ppl on this site have low body fat so a lil bit of fat is not going to do anything bad to them

[EvIl-gOaT]

Im currently taking russian bear it wrks great... gained 10 pounds like in 2 weeks and a half..

[sl4nd3r]

Ok well for starters you're wrong, I have the old school tubs that only indicates the number of cals, fats, protein and carbs AND I also have the newer one with all the nutritional facts, sometimes it varies on the store

But all the tubs are new and are far from reaching the expiration date

Second, on BOTH new and older style tubs, NEVER did it say anywhere to take it pre and pwo

Also, I've talked to many guys and read all kinds of good articles writing by guys like Layne Norton and never did they say to eat a high number of fats pwo...

And to conclude, the instructions given on most protein tubs or any supp for that matter are often bad suggestions, hoping you will follow it, and keep buying more and more...some companies do this, not all

I'm not saying you're wrong about Ultimate Nutrition recommending to take this pre and pwo, but I've never seen it on my tubs

Post up a pic or a link of this info...

I swear mine says take one pre and one post, lol. But I checked on the bb store and the muscle juice instructions are "Directions: Add four scoops of Muscle Juice (250g) to 18 ounces of water or milk. Mix."

Aggravating to say the least. Anyway, taking it pre and post(many times my post shake is actually right before bed) has been working well for me.

What would you recommend then? You say you're only taking 1 a day right? Well I'm looking to gain a **** ton of bulk and weight, I want to be 215lbs by July, I am now 204. 2 full serving muscle juice shakes a day won't turn bad on me will it?

[Blue Blazer]

I swear mine says take one pre and one post, lol. But I checked on the bb store and the muscle juice instructions are "Directions: Add four scoops of Muscle Juice (250g) to 18 ounces of water or milk. Mix."

Aggravating to say the least. Anyway, taking it pre and post(many times my post shake is actually right before bed) has been working well for me.

What would you recommend then? You say you're only taking 1 a day right? Well I'm looking to gain a **** ton of bulk and weight, I want to be 215lbs by July, I am now 204. 2 full serving muscle juice shakes a day won't turn bad on me will it?

I take 2 shakes a day, but take one in the between breakfeast and lunch and the other between lunch and dinner

For pwo, I take 2 scoops of ON Whey with 250ml of oats...imo, best pwo gainer..