Best Overall Weight Gainer?

[Hardgainer2000]

cytosport has a lot of cholestrol in it though, thats terrible

dietary cholestrol does raise ldl and hdl levels, but not as much as fat.

If youre concerned about cholstrol, take muscle milk collegiate. It looks very similar to cytogainer

[Above Existence]

I put on 16lbs in the past 3 months which is not bad i suppose. I use True-Mass and Syntha-6 along with Cell-Tech and Nitrix,,, I really wouldn't worry bout cholesterol either. I just try to stay away from junk and I'm happy with my gains so far.

Whatta you guys know about any of the high Calorie weight gainers??? True-Mass is 800 cal w 16oz milk,,,, Cyto is 740?? or something correct?? What about Muscle Juice or TwinLab??? Juice is like 1200cal w/ water and Twinlab is 2200cal. I'm just looking for a lil something so I don't have to eat 8 meals a day? Any suggestions

Cytogainer with Whole Milk is 900 calories. And DAMN, Twinlab gives you 2,200 calories in 1 serving? Is that with water or milk?

[D-town=no good]

Cytogainer with Whole Milk is 900 calories. And DAMN, Twinlab gives you 2,200 calories in 1 serving? Is that with water or milk?

I believe with Milk but I may be wrong, it is Called Twinlab 2200 or something?? I looked it up a while back but decided against it because of the waste of protein..... 100g per serving!! Too much .

[jgrand03]

im currently taking GNC's Pro Performance MASS XXX, its got something like 500cal 50g protien, low sugar...

i like it, but im a noob, anyone else think much of it?

[Ry Masta Flex]

cinniman and a little splenda with your oats makes it taste amazing!

[zkid002]

im currently taking GNC's Pro Performance MASS XXX, its got something like 500cal 50g protien, low sugar...

i like it, but im a noob, anyone else think much of it?

I Really dislike GNC Products, thats just my input..

[Chris A]

Damn i was leaning towards getting cytogainer the way everyone talks about it but then i started seeing some ppl say its like 51% cholesterol. Is this bad? I don't want to jeoperdize my health just to gain a few lbs.

[HUGE N PUMPED]

Cytogainer Is The Best I Gained 22 Pounds In Onl 1 1/2 Months It Was Great But It Is Kind Of Expenive To Ttake It 2 To 3 Times A Day For That Long Or Longer

[zkid002]

Damn i was leaning towards getting cytogainer the way everyone talks about it but then i started seeing some ppl say its like 51% cholesterol. Is this bad? I don't want to jeoperdize my health just to gain a few lbs.

Just Read this, a previous post..

ITS NOT BAD CHOLESTREOL...dietary cholestreol, does NOT affect your levels like other cholestreol...Cytogainer is an amazing, solid, gainer...Besides, read below as well, that was posted a couple of posts ago, thought you would see it if you looked through the page..

[Blue Blazer]

Uhh....all of you guys remind me of myself when I first was looking into gainers...oh cytogainer is bad because of cholesterol, my health is more important than a few lbs...here we go again...

Just check Zachary Mills strong post on page 25...hell here it is:


What are you talking? If it's coming from your diet...it's dietary cholesterol...all cholesterol in ALL food is dietary cholesterol. The cholesterol found in our bodies is LDL and HDL, that's called serum cholesterol. Cholesterol is determined by genetics, lifestyle habits ie smoking/drinking, and can be altered if you consume too much crap food with saturated fats & high gi processed garbage.

I also stated something after explaining to Zkid not to worry about it...junk food that is filled with trans fats and saturated fats are unhealthy...cytogainers cholesterol content is nothing to worry about UNLESS you are a punk that cheats everyday and goes to mcdonalds and eats 2 cheeseburgers and 10 mcnuggets...lol

To conclude, if you eat good food and not CRAP, cytogainer is nothign to fear...CytoGainer is one of the top gainers out there as far as it's quality goes..now that we have that covered I have to comment on other things:

jgrand03 as soon as your done with that gainer, go out and buy something like Real Gains, Cytogainer, ON Pro Complex Gainer, Serious Mass if your a hardgainer or even Muscle Juice if the sugar content doesn't scare you...not like it should, especially if your an ecto hardgainer like alot of us..

Chris A (read above)

HUGE N PUMPED: VERY NICE GAINS MAN! Keep up the good work

D-town=no good: I like true mass to be honest, I like the hiogh fat content and the lower protein content, since I don't like gainers that contain to much protein...that's why I don't think Twinlab is the greatest option unless your a big guy looking to get even bigger...I've decided not to mess with it, they don't recommend it for guys under 18...

I believe it is called TwinLab Fuel Pro 1800...it has 1800 cals when it is mixed with water...if you want a bigger gainer I think Serious Mass is good...I also strongly recommend Nutrabolics Iso Gainer..700cals in water, 11 grams of fats, 60 grams of protein and 88 grams of carbs per serving (3 scoops)

I would just take 4 scoops a day (2 scoops=1 shake)...

But really food is what you need...if you don't want to eat 8 meals a day, I recommend eating 5-6 bigger meals...It is what I am doing at the time and it is going great...I gained 5 lbs in the first 2 weeks...

But as far as gainers go my favorites are Cyto Gainer, ON Pro Complex and Real Gains (though I haven't tried Real Gains but have heard great things..)

Getting the ON Pro Complex next month...looking forward to it..

Best of luck to all of you, JM

[Chris A]

ok thx guys for clearing that up. I may get cytogainer in the near future.

[Above Existence]

I've been STRONGLY on the Cytogainer for a few years now and I LOVE it. Now, is there supposedly anything else out there that's on par or even greater than Cytogainer with a low-sugar content? Somebody please post.

[Blue Blazer]

I've been STRONGLY on the Cytogainer for a few years now and I LOVE it. Now, is there supposedly anything else out there that's on par or even greater than Cytogainer with a low-sugar content? Somebody please post.

Real Gains is awful close...Nutrabolics IsoGainer was great but the sugar content is higher...

I think ON Pro Complex Gainer should be very good as well...but I am not 100 percent sure on this...

JM

[Sanchez15]

Looks like i will be going back to cyto gainer. I stop taking it to try other products but nothing i have tried has come close.

[Hardgainer2000]

So what does Cytogainer have that Muscle milk collegiate doesnt?

[Hardgainer2000]

Cytogainer Is The Best I Gained 22 Pounds In Onl 1 1/2 Months It Was Great But It Is Kind Of Expenive To Ttake It 2 To 3 Times A Day For That Long Or Longer

So you were drinking 2-3 servings a day?

[BlG boy]

So what does Cytogainer have that Muscle milk collegiate doesnt?

Theyre almost identical except cytogainer contains 3g creatine

Cytogainer

Calores: 570
Protein: 54
Carbs: 75
Fat: 6
Cholestrol: 46%

Muscle Milk Collegiate

Calories: 580
Protein: 40
Carbs: 88
Fat: 7
Cholestrol: 11%

[Blue Blazer]

Theyre almost identical except cytogainer contains 3g creatine

Cytogainer

Calores: 570
Protein: 54
Carbs: 75
Fat: 6
Cholestrol: 46%

Muscle Milk Collegiate

Calories: 580
Protein: 40
Carbs: 88
Fat: 7
Cholestrol: 11%

Yep pretty close..doesn't Muscle Milk contain more casein and it is much slower to digest??? Not sure, just wondering..

I think ON's Pro Complex Gainer comes awful close...http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/gainer.html

Definitely trying this one when I'm done with my ON 100% Natural Whey..

JM

[zkid002]

Yep pretty close..doesn't Muscle Milk contain more casein and it is much slower to digest??? Not sure, just wondering..

I think ON's Pro Complex Gainer comes awful close...http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/gainer.html

Definitely trying this one when I'm done with my ON 100% Natural Whey..

JM

Corret budddy, The Muscle Milk formula is a slower digesting protein that that of the contents of protein found in Cytogainer...The MM Collegiate contains caseins(slower release/absorption), as compared to the mainly whey(quick release/absorption) protein based cytogainer...If anyone is looking more into the release of protein that they want, Cytogainer is a quicker absorption of the protein contained in the gainer, and MM Collegiate has a slower absorption/release...

[King Alex]

I believe with Milk but I may be wrong, it is Called Twinlab 2200 or something?? I looked it up a while back but decided against it because of the waste of protein..... 100g per serving!! Too much .

thats why you drink it throughout the day, and not in one sitting, besides the serving size is ridiculous its like a halfgallon worth of drink for that, not worth it

[Blue Blazer]

Corret budddy, The Muscle Milk formula is a slower digesting protein that that of the contents of protein found in Cytogainer...The MM Collegiate contains caseins(slower release/absorption), as compared to the mainly whey(quick release/absorption) protein based cytogainer...If anyone is looking more into the release of protein that they want, Cytogainer is a quicker absorption of the protein contained in the gainer, and MM Collegiate has a slower absorption/release...

Yep I was pretty damn sure of that...

I think the closest thing to CytoGainer is ON's pro complex gainer, I was checking it out today...I was very impressed...I didn't read it much into detail but I imagine the protein quality is top knotch coming from ON

60 grams of protein, 650 cals I think, 85 grams of carbs and 8 grams of fats...as far as sugar goes I forget...

JM

[zkid002]

Yep I was pretty damn sure of that...

I think the closest thing to CytoGainer is ON's pro complex gainer, I was checking it out today...I was very impressed...I didn't read it much into detail but I imagine the protein quality is top knotch coming from ON

60 grams of protein, 650 cals I think, 85 grams of carbs and 8 grams of fats...as far as sugar goes I forget...

JM

It is a great gainer, I may pick up a tub soon at GNC when they have their sales..

[Above Existence]

That ON Pro Complex Gainer sounds very interesting. Does anyone know whats the best flavor?

[Blue Blazer]

That ON Pro Complex Gainer sounds very interesting. Does anyone know whats the best flavor?

I imagine the flavors are similar to ON's whey flavors, except they will definitely be sweeter with all the carbs...one good thing is that is only has 6 grams of sugar..

Definitely going to go with ON Pro Complex Gainer with a Creatine Mono when I'm out of whey...

JM

[XPLiCiTiX]

dietary cholestrol does raise ldl and hdl levels, but not as much as fat.

If youre concerned about cholstrol, take muscle milk collegiate. It looks very similar to cytogainer

Muscle Milk Collegiate is definitely better IMO compared to regular Muscle Milk, but i must say that MMC doesn't quite taste as good as the original. But don't get me wrong, it still tastes good, but it's a little more powdery and has slightly more artificial taste to it.

[XPLiCiTiX]

Cytosport's Cyto Gainer is the best weight gainer in my opinion. Although, I've heard great things about Ergopharm's protein products such as GF Pro and Mass Meal.. Has anyone in here tried them?

[Blue Blazer]

Cytosport's Cyto Gainer is the best weight gainer in my opinion. Although, I've heard great things about Ergopharm's protein products such as GF Pro and Mass Meal.. Has anyone in here tried them?

No sir...any links to their site or to their gainers nutritional facts??

I think ON, Cyto and Real Gains might be the top knotch gainers..but this is just a guess, but I loved Cyto..

JM

[Sv87guS]

Real Gains

[Blue Blazer]

Real Gains

Good choice..maybe after you could try CytoGainer to compare the two...would make a nice discusssion in this thread...or even ON Pro Complex Gainer, I think this gainer is going to step up to the plate lol...not many guys have taken it though...or atleast this is how it seems..

I noticed your stack, NICE!

[jwright715]

Cytosport's Cyto Gainer is the best weight gainer in my opinion. Although, I've heard great things about Ergopharm's protein products such as GF Pro and Mass Meal.. Has anyone in here tried them?

Mass Meal is awesome. Ive gone through a few tubs of the banana and chocolate..one of the best tasting gainers, thats for sure. I wish i had a tub in front of me, id give you some more info on the profile if i did.

[Blue Blazer]

Mass Meal is awesome. Ive gone through a few tubs of the banana and chocolate..one of the best tasting gainers, thats for sure. I wish i had a tub in front of me, id give you some more info on the profile if i did.

I checked it out..quite a small gainer imo..roughly 330 calories or something around that...kind of low..I think it had about 30 grams of protein..imo if it is that low I would just stick to ON Whey and get my carbs and fats from actual food...then again this is just my opinion

JM

[RIPcookiethief]

I bought some Muscle Juice on a whim and it's actually pretty good(taste) and I got a boatload of energy from it that lasted for a while. On top of that it didn't kill my appetite so I drank a shake and then ate a meal less than 2 hours later.


My only gripe is that when I opened the container I got powder EVERYWHERE. As either it was overfilled or jostled too much during delivery.


So far so good tho.

[HUGE N PUMPED]

I would recommend cytogainer to beginers to gain mass fast but its reall good for every one lots of quality protien,glutamine, and creatinen excellent for gaining muscle fast if taken properly and used with a proper workout program. By the way I would not recommend muscle milk its not very good for you. It has a creatine substitute that can sometimes be converted into a different chemical in the body and after a couple years of use can lead to brain damage plus its high in "healthy" fats.

I have read in several places the thing about the brain damage.

[Hardgainer2000]

I would recommend cytogainer to beginers to gain mass fast but its reall good for every one lots of quality protien,glutamine, and creatinen excellent for gaining muscle fast if taken properly and used with a proper workout program. By the way I would not recommend muscle milk its not very good for you. It has a creatine substitute that can sometimes be converted into a different chemical in the body and after a couple years of use can lead to brain damage plus its high in "healthy" fats.

I have read in several places the thing about the brain damage.

Actually they started taking out the glycogycamine in regular muscle milk. Muscle milk collegiate is better anyway as a gainer, and it doesnt have that in it.

[Blue Blazer]

Actually they started taking out the glycogycamine in regular muscle milk. Muscle milk collegiate is better anyway as a gainer, and it doesnt have that in it.

I can't see it being a better gainer due to the protein content...all slow digesting proteins...Nothing wrong with it, but I will explain why I cannot use it:

I am a small guy (165lbs) so basically I should only be taking 1 powder, either whey or a weight gainer...if I take Whey, Gainer and a Miscellar Casein for example, well as far as protein goes, I am good for the day lol..I need protein from food and if I took Muscle Milk during the day and whey after my workout well that would be too much protein coming from powders, IMO of course...

That's why I dislike Muscle Milk Collegiate...Maybe when I'm around the 200lbs mark and much older, I would definitely try something like it...

JM

[Hardgainer2000]

I can't see it being a better gainer due to the protein content...all slow digesting proteins...Nothing wrong with it, but I will explain why I cannot use it:

I am a small guy (165lbs) so basically I should only be taking 1 powder, either whey or a weight gainer...if I take Whey, Gainer and a Miscellar Casein for example, well as far as protein goes, I am good for the day lol..I need protein from food and if I took Muscle Milk during the day and whey after my workout well that would be too much protein coming from powders, IMO of course...

That's why I dislike Muscle Milk Collegiate...Maybe when I'm around the 200lbs mark and much older, I would definitely try something like it...

JM

Yea I guess it depends on your diet. Im taking mm collegiate for bedtime only. IM getting all the rest of my stuff from food, except a torrent shake pwo.

[Blue Blazer]

Yea I guess it depends on your diet. Im taking mm collegiate for bedtime only. IM getting all the rest of my stuff from food, except a torrent shake pwo.

Yep, really depends on the diet...At the time I've got Whey and am surprised I had no trouble to put on any mass without a gainer..I guess at my size it is easier to put on weight, but I will go back to taking a gainer when my tub is empty..

BTW, the Torrent shake you are taking pwo, is this just a regular whey protein shake?

JM

[Hardgainer2000]

Yep, really depends on the diet...At the time I've got Whey and am surprised I had no trouble to put on any mass without a gainer..I guess at my size it is easier to put on weight, but I will go back to taking a gainer when my tub is empty..

BTW, the Torrent shake you are taking pwo, is this just a regular whey protein shake?

JM

no its a mixture of whey, complex carbs, and creatine. Basically everything you need pwo that absorbs quickly.

[johnderriLLL]

the best weight gainer for me is prolly oreos and milk

[RIPcookiethief]

Also Tendercrisp sandwiches from Burger King.

[zkid002]

the best weight gainer for me is prolly oreos and milk


Also Tendercrisp sandwiches from Burger King.

The Funny thing is...you guys are right!!...(at least on the right track)...REAL FOOD is the way to go, there is NO POINT in a weight gainer, when you can enojy REAL FOOD, with QUALITY ingredients and nutrients!!...I mean, unless your busy as helll, and you NEED to find a product to slam down extra calories..But as of now, I dont see any reason to take a gainer....Really, If you make your own, its more enjoyable, and its HIGH QUALITY!!

Oats
Bananas(or other fruits)
Whey or Casein Powder(Or A Blend)
Milk
Eggs
Ice
(any other preferences and enjoy!)

[Lavoisier]

Strawberry Real Gains

or

1 cup oats (ground up before hand)

2 scoops chocolate protein powder (I like ON extreme Milk Chocolate)

2 cups milk

4 pieces of ice (ground up before hand)

3-4 tablespoons of natty pb

Blend

tastes great, and it's high in cals.

[LittleGuy1980]

That's kinda like the one I make Sultan, but I add just a little banana to it.

[Lavoisier]

That's kinda like the one I make Sultan, but I add just a little banana to it.

Yeah it's good isn't it, I'll add a banana occasionally if I need a little energy.

[Blue Blazer]

The Funny thing is...you guys are right!!...(at least on the right track)...REAL FOOD is the way to go, there is NO POINT in a weight gainer, when you can enojy REAL FOOD, with QUALITY ingredients and nutrients!!...I mean, unless your busy as helll, and you NEED to find a product to slam down extra calories..But as of now, I dont see any reason to take a gainer....Really, If you make your own, its more enjoyable, and its HIGH QUALITY!!

Oats
Bananas(or other fruits)
Whey or Casein Powder(Or A Blend)
Milk
Eggs
Ice
(any other preferences and enjoy!)

Why the change of heart all of sudden...couple days ago you seemed to be all for weight gainers...especially CytoGainer lol...

I must agree though...weight gainers aren't gainers...food is the ULTIMATE GAINER...

But I wouldn't make a gainer shake, too much time wasted lol...I would just eat lol...because I am on a busy schedule with school which is taking up some of my time because I am in all the high classes and what not, so I need to work hard, plus I have Karate, Ice Hockey and will be doing some Track and Field (shotput, discus and 100meter dash)

I still haven't decided for sure if I will try another gainer...I do have alot of activities but I think I would be fine with just my ON Whey, a creatine Mono, fish oil and a multi..

JM

[Kung Fu boy]

anyways, (no, I havn't read through all the pages) out of "Big Mass Gainer" and "Muscle Juice" which one is the best?
(those are the ones that I've seen in my town's stors...
I'm 60 Kilos now... 4,7% bodyfat... I'm 17 years old...

[zkid002]

Why the change of heart all of sudden...couple days ago you seemed to be all for weight gainers...especially CytoGainer lol...

I must agree though...weight gainers aren't gainers...food is the ULTIMATE GAINER...

But I wouldn't make a gainer shake, too much time wasted lol...I would just eat lol...because I am on a busy schedule with school which is taking up some of my time because I am in all the high classes and what not, so I need to work hard, plus I have Karate, Ice Hockey and will be doing some Track and Field (shotput, discus and 100meter dash)

I still haven't decided for sure if I will try another gainer...I do have alot of activities but I think I would be fine with just my ON Whey, a creatine Mono, fish oil and a multi..

JM

This is the way I always felt, I never was FOR gainers...I just prefer/suggest cytogainer if any, in the future, if I NEED to use them..

[ErikHershey]

I just got my first order from bsn. Tastes pretty good!

[Dallas_15]

Real Gains

Thats what I use. really good.

[Blue Blazer]

I just got my first order from bsn. Tastes pretty good!

Keep us posted on how True Mass is...I like the fact it's lower in proteins but higher in fats..Not sure what the quality of the protein is, but it has always interested me..

Keep me posted lol...JM

[Chris A]

Each of the 4 scoops for a cytogainer serving should be filled to the top right? My friend thinks its only to the line where the handle is but i think thats bs its to the top isnt it?

[Blue Blazer]

Each of the 4 scoops for a cytogainer serving should be filled to the top right? My friend thinks its only to the line where the handle is but i think thats bs its to the top isnt it?

To the top...but not a heaping scoop...when it is level to the top..

Besides, is there much of a difference between the 2? I can't remember what the scoop was like...but I don't think it will change much lol

JM

[spulak]

I stick with BSNs true mass too. It has been about the only thing that I have actually seen results on. And it mixes so well and actually tastes pretty good. Went from 174 to 184 in a week. Of course I was eating about 4000 calories a day on top of drinking 3 of the shakes...

[Blue Blazer]

I stick with BSNs true mass too. It has been about the only thing that I have actually seen results on. And it mixes so well and actually tastes pretty good. Went from 174 to 184 in a week. Of course I was eating about 4000 calories a day on top of drinking 3 of the shakes...

Very nice gains, interesting, maybe I will try and up my calories to the 4000 mark...

Did you see alot of gains in fat?

JM

[Blue Blazer]

How the hell did they do it?

[cbballer]

if I take cytogainer for a while and make some gains, will any of that go away after i stop taking it since it has creatine in it?

[bernbabybern820]

if I take cytogainer for a while and make some gains, will any of that go away after i stop taking it since it has creatine in it?

Maybe just a pound or two of water weight.

[jimromano]

is real gains any good, im trying to find a good weight gainer, i;ve heard good things about it....and what is this cyto stuff ppl have been discussing?

[Blue Blazer]

is real gains any good, im trying to find a good weight gainer, i;ve heard good things about it....and what is this cyto stuff ppl have been discussing?

That would be Cytogainer, which is imo the best overall gainer, but I guess it's NOT after hearing that "True Mass" is the best gainer..

To be honest I am very surprised that True Mass won, I was certan that Real Gains or Cyto Gainer would have brought home the gold..

Quite a shocker for me...

BTW, Cyto Gainer is a weight gainer made by CytoSport...it has 580cals, 54 grams of protein, roughly 85 grams of carbs and 6 grams of fat if I am not mistaken...

Excellent gainer, because I made EXCELLENT GAINS with it...Best gainer I have ever taken...

But since True Mass won the best overall gainer, I think I am going to give BSN a chance, the gainer does seem alright (I do like the fact is has 46 grams of protein, which is 9 grams less per serving than cyto gainer, total of 18 grams less per day, which is good for my diet because I get plenty of protein from food)

Just my opinion though, JM

[Blue Blazer]

Damn this thread is dead, time to start discussing gainers by myself lol

CytoGainer rules!

[Blue Blazer]

No way man True Mass all the way!

[Blue Blazer]

No way man True Mass all the way!

Really you've had good gains with true mass? I was going to try it at one point, but decided to go with cytogainer...

How much mass did you put on using true mass? Any other BSN products you recommend?


(lol...this is how sad this thread is, WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY POST HERE!?)

JM

[redsox03]

Weider Giant Mega Mass 4000

Calories 1640 (calories increase to 4000 when mixed with 6 cups of milk)
Calories from Fat 90
Total Fat 10g 15%
Saturated Fat 4g 19%
Cholesterol 150 50%
Total Carbohydrate 311 104%
Sugars 138
Protein 85 170%

[Blue Blazer]

Weider Giant Mega Mass 4000

Calories 1640 (calories increase to 4000 when mixed with 6 cups of milk)
Calories from Fat 90
Total Fat 10g 15%
Saturated Fat 4g 19%
Cholesterol 150 50%
Total Carbohydrate 311 104%
Sugars 138
Protein 85 170%

311 grams of carbs sounds like a waste since I only need like 500 and I could even be taking less lol

JM

[antonioNHB]

i loved serious mass. its cheap and has really given me good size in the past. serious mass 1/2 serving...i highly recommend it
this used to be only $26.50 but its $39.99 on ************* now

heres its profile:
Product Profile: Amount Per Serving % Daily Value Calories 1250 Calories from Fat 40 Total Fat 4.5 g 7%* Saturated Fat 3 g 15%* Cholesterol 75 mg 25%* Total Carbohydrate 252 g 84%* Sugars 40 g Protein 50 g 100%* Vitamin C 60 mg 100%* Vitamin D 200 I.U. 50%* Vitamin E 30 I.U. 100%* Thiamin 5 mg 330%* Riboflavin 5 mg 290%* Niacin 50 mg 250%* Vitamin B6 5 mg 250%* Folic Acid 400 mcg 100%* Vitamin B12 20 mcg 330%* Biotin 300 mcg 100%* Pantothenic Acid 100 mg 1000%* Calcium 730 mg 70%* Iron 6 mg 35%* Phosphorus 350 mg 35%* Iodine 75 mcg 50%* Magnesium 186 mg 45%* Zinc 30 mg 200%* Selenium 200 mcg 290%* Copper 1 mg 50%* Manganese 10 mg 500%* Chromium 600 mcg 500%* Molybdenum 150 mcg 200%* Sodium 600 mg 25%* Potassium 1230 mg 35%* Choline 250 mg Inositol 250 mg PABA 5 mg Creatine Monohydrate 1 g L-Glutamine 500 mg * Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Ingredients: Complex Carbohydrates, Proprietary Protein Blend (Whey Protein Concentrate, Calcium Caseinate, Egg Albumen, L-Glutamine), Artificial Flavor, Serious Mass Vitamin & Mineral Blend (Potassium Phosphate, Choline Bitartrate, Magnesium Aspartate, Beta Carotene, Inositol, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Zinc Citrate, Ascorbic Acid, Boron Amino Acid Chelate, Niacinamide, Manganese Glycinate, Kelp, d-alpha Tocopherol Succinate, Ferrous Fumarate, Copper Gluconate, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Para-Aminobenzoic Acid, Chromium Picolinate, Selenium Glycinate, Molybdenum Glycinate, Vitamin D3, Folic Acid, Biotin, Cyanocobalamin), Medium Chain Triglycerides, Creatine Monohydrate, Acesulfame Potassium. (Vanilla shown. Slight variations may occur among flavors.)

[antonioNHB]

oh...and it tastes GREAT even with water only...goes down smooth and its not chalky or thick.

[Universal Rep]

http://universalnutrition.com/sample/index.cfm

I'm guessing the new Banana flavor sample should be in any time now...

[antonioNHB]

thank you sir :)

[Universal Rep]

thank you sir :)

To update--currently, we're sampling three flavors: Chocolate, Strawberry and the new Banana. Universal is currently out of stock on the Vanilla.

Wait till you try the Strawberry...

[Blue Blazer]

To update--currently, we're sampling three flavors: Chocolate, Strawberry and the new Banana. Universal is currently out of stock on the Vanilla.

Wait till you try the Strawberry...

Ok here's a question...Why is Real Gains not recommended for users under 18?

I wanted to try it, but then noticed that...was a little disapointed..

Would you still recommend it??

JM

[Im Arrogant]

^because your at your prime at growing and using any type of anabolic might stunt it..

[Blue Blazer]

^because your at your prime at growing and using any type of anabolic might stunt it..

Ahh, I wasn't aware of anything anabolic in Real Gains, I had a feeling it contained something of that genre but do not know enough about the whole anabolic subject to say anything lol

Thanks, repped, JM

[RiseOfTheTyrant]

Been using this stuff called Big Max 50.. seems to be working well. What do you guys think? Here's the facts:

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 4 Scoops, app.152g
Servings Per Container: app 30

Amount Per Serving
Calories 596
Calories from Fat 36

%Daily Value*
Total Fat 4 g
Saturated Fat 1gm
Cholesterol 50 mg
Sodium 200 mg
Potassium 475 mg
Total Carbohydrate 90 g
Dietary fiber 6 g
Sugars 26 g
Protein 50 g

[Blue Blazer]

Seems like a pretty good gainer overall, but the sugars are pretty high, I suppose it's not too bad for the hardgainer or someone who does alot of running and intense sports during the day, but for me the sugar seems quite high..




Been using this stuff called Big Max 50.. seems to be working well. What do you guys think? Here's the facts:

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 4 Scoops, app.152g
Servings Per Container: app 30

Amount Per Serving
Calories 596
Calories from Fat 36

%Daily Value*
Total Fat 4 g
Saturated Fat 1gm
Cholesterol 50 mg
Sodium 200 mg
Potassium 475 mg
Total Carbohydrate 90 g
Dietary fiber 6 g
Sugars 26 g
Protein 50 g

[TopBoyNow]

I Take Realgains and im sure it doesnt mention anything about being 18+

[Blue Blazer]

I Take Realgains and im sure it doesnt mention anything about being 18+

Well that's what I was told by a Universal Rep...JM

[johnderriLLL]

you guys need to start eating.

[LT1Squirrel]

i prefer to make my own shake:
16 oz 4% Milk
1-2 Scoops ON choc.
1 banana
2 heaping tbsp of PB
Squirt of chocolate syrup
Squirt of honey
Ice cubes
3g of creatin mono
Fruit of choice
1/2 cup oats

tastes awesome and great overall shake

[RiseOfTheTyrant]

Seems like a pretty good gainer overall, but the sugars are pretty high, I suppose it's not too bad for the hardgainer or someone who does alot of running and intense sports during the day, but for me the sugar seems quite high..

Yeah.. I agree.. a little too much sugar. I'm thinking about switching to CytoGainer next. I heard mostly good things about it. I've never took any supplements with creatine before though.. we'll see what happens.

[gdogg75]

Yeah.. I agree.. a little too much sugar. I'm thinking about switching to CytoGainer next. I heard mostly good things about it. I've never took any supplements with creatine before though.. we'll see what happens.

i am very pleased with CytoGainer... good stuff. Cyto Sport really does a great job of making shakes taste good...

cytogainer has a lot of quality ingredients... and the creatine/glutamine are definitely a plus-

i have been trying my best to track/journal my workouts and diet to figure out what is working.

my workouts definitely are more consistent after i have been on cytogainer for at least 2 weeks...

*a caution goes out to the cookies and cream though... pretty horrendous if you ask me*

[slammedsl1]

I have True Mass (chocolate) and Cytogainer (rocky road)

Cytogainer mixes better imo and the tastes are similar

I'm going to be taking SizeOn so I don't want the extra creatine in the Cytogainer but next time, I want to try Nlarge2

[Blue Blazer]

I have True Mass (chocolate) and Cytogainer (rocky road)

Cytogainer mixes better imo and the tastes are similar

I'm going to be taking SizeOn so I don't want the extra creatine in the Cytogainer but next time, I want to try Nlarge2

I wouldn't go with N Large 2 because of the 28 grams of sugar, but that's just me..

BTW johnderriLLL, I don't even take a gainer, I make my own (different ones throughout the day) but here's what it looks like in general:

1. 1 scoop of ON Whey
2. 1 scoop of Casein (only in the night)
3. 1 cup of oats
4. 2 teaspoons of Canola Oil
5. 2 teaspoons of flax powder stuff (only in the morning)
6. Approx 2 tbs of Natural PB

And I will usally eat a piece of fruit with the shake, usally a banana or an apple or two..

That's how I gain weight lol..JM

[Chenz72]

Cytogainer, it has everything you need. Protien, Creatine, Glutamine, Low Fat, Great Taste

[RiseOfTheTyrant]

Cytogainer, it has everything you need. Protien, Creatine, Glutamine, Low Fat, Great Taste

What do you guys think, when I start taking Cytogainer should I stop taking (or take less) Glutamine since the gainer already has it in it?

[bigbencherjj]

SNI xtreme promass i believe is the best, they use whey concentate, whey isolate, glutamine peptides, And the carbs are oligiosacharides, fructose, and glucose polymers. Most of these weight gainers that are listed use maltodextrin which I think can convert to blood sugar to quickly. I would like to see a gainer with complex carbs. I don't think you should be taking maltodextrin for a large portion of your carb intake considering 3 out of 8 of my meals are shakes.

[Blue Blazer]

SNI xtreme promass i believe is the best, they use whey concentate, whey isolate, glutamine peptides, And the carbs are oligiosacharides, fructose, and glucose polymers. Most of these weight gainers that are listed use maltodextrin which I think can convert to blood sugar to quickly. I would like to see a gainer with complex carbs. I don't think you should be taking maltodextrin for a large portion of your carb intake considering 3 out of 8 of my meals are shakes.

Ok well I am no expert here's stuff I've read in posts, articles, etc:

Maltodextrin is a complex carb
Fructose is bad, maltodextrin is good.

Like I said, I don't know much about carbs, but from what I understand, Cytogainer contains maltodextrin and from what I can understand, they say they only use complex carbs, so that would mean maltodextrin is in fact good for you

And I've read before that fructose is no good..

Maybe I am wrong, but I think I am somewhat right.

JM

[FA702]

Is Real Gains A Good Weight Gainer And Does It Have Anythyng Anabolic In It Like The Kid Sed On The Last Page

[FA702]

Real gAins Should Have WON They Have The Cleanest Ingriendents Bsn Payed Them Probabaly Lol

[Drivn2perfection]

Just figured I'd put in my piece here... I've only taken one weight gainer but I've liked it so far!

Cytogainer is the one I bought... That company always has good products and I figured CytoGainer would be a good choice... Although my weight gain could be a variety of different things, I saw that when I added the weight gainer on top of my bulking diet , I've raised up from 214 to 220lbs on average in just one tub of the stuff.

[Brandon Dennis]

Allmax Quickmass

Calories 1010
Calories from fat 120
Total Fat 14g 22%
Carbohydrates 168g 56%
Dietary Fiber 5g 20%
Sugars 29g
Protein 56g 114%

yea thats it a good weight gainer but its $4.67 for one serving

[big_addz]

been takin Ture Mass and love it! i'm currently takin the strawberry flavor and it tastes awsome, doesnt have a wierd after taste like the choclate seems 2 have! atm i have 1 & 1/2 scoops during the day between meals and 2 scoops before bed both times i mix with low fat milk.

[Redhawks421]

I have been using Miami Muscles (www.miamimuscles.com) RegereX G8. This product is amazing and has everything and more than CytoGainer and Pro-Lab's N-Large. Ive been on it for 3 weeks now and have gained 12 pounds of mass. It has a ton of glutamine so you are never sore and can workout body parts every 3 days. Its really inexpensive too...if you use the code MIAMI20 you get 20%off and it comes to like 47 bucks for 6.6 pounds....Check it out if you get a chance

[Blue Blazer]

I have been using Miami Muscles (www.miamimuscles.com) RegereX G8. This product is amazing and has everything and more than CytoGainer and Pro-Lab's N-Large. Ive been on it for 3 weeks now and have gained 12 pounds of mass. It has a ton of glutamine so you are never sore and can workout body parts every 3 days. Its really inexpensive too...if you use the code MIAMI20 you get 20%off and it comes to like 47 bucks for 6.6 pounds....Check it out if you get a chance

That's an awful small gainer, but it does look pretty clean...I just glampsed at it, should be alright, but not what I had in mind..

JM

[o0hardcore0o]

allmax nutrition quickmass work well with me

[Blue Blazer]

allmax nutrition quickmass work well with me

Never did much for me, I honestly thought it was awful lol..

JM

[gasmask84]

I've been using cytogainer for about a month and a half and gained 5 pounds. Just recently, a friend of mine suggested that I try switching to Nitro-tech Hardcore (by Muscle-tech). Apparently he put on as much as 15 pounds in a month. I might give that a try after I finish my cytogainer.

Does anybody know if it's okay to be taking two types of weight-gainers at once?

[NastyNally]

been takin Ture Mass and love it! i'm currently takin the strawberry flavor and it tastes awsome, doesnt have a wierd after taste like the choclate seems 2 have! atm i have 1 & 1/2 scoops during the day between meals and 2 scoops before bed both times i mix with low fat milk.

x2 with the True Mass. I'm on my second tub of True Mass Chocolate. Best tasting weight gainer I've had to date.

[Blue Blazer]

I've been using cytogainer for about a month and a half and gained 5 pounds. Just recently, a friend of mine suggested that I try switching to Nitro-tech Hardcore (by Muscle-tech). Apparently he put on as much as 15 pounds in a month. I might give that a try after I finish my cytogainer.

Does anybody know if it's okay to be taking two types of weight-gainers at once?

As you as you balance it correctly...I mean don't take 2 cytogainer shakes (4scoops per shake) and then take 2 shakes of Nitro-tech lol, this much is obvious haha

As far as I know, Nitro-Tech isn't a gainer...Mass-Tech is though..

EDIT: BTW, has anyone tried Mass-Tech or now anything about it? I heard alot of bad things about MT products, but how is this?

JM

[RiseOfTheTyrant]

Hey Joey Mo, you're usually on this thread so maybe you can answer my question. I am going to be taking CytoGainer pretty soon. I've never taken Creatine of any kind before, and I know CytoGainer has some in it. I'm trying to bulk up a lot (and yes I'm lifting hard, eating like a beast, and getting good rest). Now the question is, would you recommend getting some Creatine to go along with the CytoGainer? and if so, how much/what kind would you recommend? or do you think it has enough in there?

[Blue Blazer]

Hey Joey Mo, you're usually on this thread so maybe you can answer my question. I am going to be taking CytoGainer pretty soon. I've never taken Creatine of any kind before, and I know CytoGainer has some in it. I'm trying to bulk up a lot (and yes I'm lifting hard, eating like a beast, and getting good rest). Now the question is, would you recommend getting some Creatine to go along with the CytoGainer? and if so, how much/what kind would you recommend? or do you think it has enough in there?

Well I have taken cytogainer in the past and it was an excellent gainer, nothing bad to say about it, I put on about 5lbs in a month with it...was very satisfied..

As for creatine I can't really help you there, I have never taken any kind of creatine except for Kre-Alkalyn, which imo did nothing at all lol

I would go with a Creatine Monohydrate (I have heard good things about prolab's creatine and Ultimate Nutrition's creapure)

I think next to that CEE would be a good idea..alot of guys are taking cell mass and it would seem it is a good creatine (it did win best overall creatine product, no xplode won best overall no product again and this year True Mass won best overal weight gainer)

I am interested in trying True Mass and Cell Mass, maybe next time I stop in to the supps store I will pick these up...but I think I would prefer a creatine mono..

But I don't know much about creatine, I know my share about gainers but am far from the smartest guy on the forum lol

Best of luck man, JM

[RiseOfTheTyrant]

Thanks for the help man. Yeah a few others have recommended some of the same things. Guess I just gotta give it a try and see how it works for me..

Lol I gotta stop writing on her considering the thread is supposed to be about the best overall gainer.

[Blue Blazer]

Thanks for the help man. Yeah a few others have recommended some of the same things. Guess I just gotta give it a try and see how it works for me..

Lol I gotta stop writing on her considering the thread is supposed to be about the best overall gainer.

Lol, yeah we all kinda discuss gainers here, and occasionally someone will hijack the thread (I have done this before)..

I don't mind thread hijackers as long as they don't ask like jerks..JM

[zkid002]

I dont understand who would need a weight gainer, unless they have to get in about 4,000 Calories!!!...You know all the foods that are out there!..Jeuss!!..They are 100% A BETTER CHOICE!..Make your own NATURAL Weight Gainer Shake if anything...Take some Oats, Bananas, Whey/Casein Powder, Eggs, Milk, and Toss in some Ice, & Blend it up!..If anything, that is what should be done!..I mean, why would you even want quick calories like this?...when you can enjoy, and eat more at meals, or make your own delicious smoothy shake?..This is Just an opinion, so dont get too offensive guys, because I know how some people on here can get..This is to discuss, not go nuts..

[Above Existence]

I dont understand who would need a weight gainer, unless they have to get in about 4,000 Calories!!!...You know all the foods that are out there!..Jeuss!!..They are 100% A BETTER CHOICE!..Make your own NATURAL Weight Gainer Shake if anything...Take some Oats, Bananas, Whey/Casein Powder, Eggs, Milk, and Toss in some Ice, & Blend it up!..If anything, that is what should be done!..I mean, why would you even want quick calories like this?...when you can enjoy, and eat more at meals, or make your own delicious smoothy shake?..This is Just an opinion, so dont get too offensive guys, because I know how some people on here can get..This is to discuss, not go nuts..

You'll understand once you get a 'lil older.

[dece870717]

The best weight gainer is a crap load of REAL food.

[Blue Blazer]

I dont understand who would need a weight gainer, unless they have to get in about 4,000 Calories!!!...You know all the foods that are out there!..Jeuss!!..They are 100% A BETTER CHOICE!..Make your own NATURAL Weight Gainer Shake if anything...Take some Oats, Bananas, Whey/Casein Powder, Eggs, Milk, and Toss in some Ice, & Blend it up!..If anything, that is what should be done!..I mean, why would you even want quick calories like this?...when you can enjoy, and eat more at meals, or make your own delicious smoothy shake?..This is Just an opinion, so dont get too offensive guys, because I know how some people on here can get..This is to discuss, not go nuts..

Ok well I have many things to say regarding your post...

First off, you weigh 114lbs don't get too offensive, it's the truth)

Second, I DO IN FACT MAKE MY OWN GAINER...(read my some my post either on this page or the last one)

I have many things to say regarding your posts...lol

Let's start from the beginning...

You said "unless you need 4000k" ok now when bulking this is very popular number, me for example, try to take in 4000k a day...

Then you said "why would you want quick calories" (this one made me chuckle, honestly)

Has it ever ocurred to you alot of guys here are in school (whether high school, college or university and if not they have a JOB)

Along with other activities like sports, homework for some, extra activities that get in the way of sitting down for 20-30 minutes and having a nice meal...

Perfect example right here: (the day of Joey Mo)
I have enough sh!t to do: Homework (don't worry I get plenty of it, I am in all the higher courses and believe me I have to work to keep the grades up so I can study to be a doctor)

Martial Arts (kenpo) I have this 2-3 times a week, takes up a minimum of 2 hours of my night, and can even take up a nice 3 hours...

Ice hockey: another 2 hours of my time twice a week

(soon to be) Part time job on weekends (roughly 10 hours a week, maybe more) not a whole lot but nevertheless 10 hours gone there..

And of course: WORKING OUT (3 times a week, takes up a nice 2 hours of my night)

So you can see my day is pretty busy...I am no pro at managing my time but am surprised because lately I have been balancing my lifts, dieting, sports, school+hw quite well..

I have gained a nice 7lbs since school has started and am far from done...

So now do you know why we want quick calories??

So next time dude, don't come in here saying, you don't need a gainer, eat food, eat more meals, eat more this, blah blah blah...

It depends on how busy you are, how BIG you are and what you WANT

You my friend are 114lbs, you don't need a gainer, hell you would be alive and well without any type of whey protein...

I am no huge monster, but I like to take in a nice 1.4 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight (on average) (1.3 minimum) which gives me between 214 and 230 grams of protein

If you did this you would only need 160 grams of protein...

Do you see the difference...now imagine a big guy (let's say 200lbs and he's on a bulk) (let's say he's aiming for 1.4 grams per lb) well he's gonna want 280 grams of protein

See the difference bro?

You can diss a gainer all you want (I am not even getting defensive, how can I? I don't even take a gainer nor plan on taking one in the next few months), but you could diss forever, but guys will still take them, because of their goals and their lifestyles and let's not forget their size..

Some guys feel they are a great help, some think they are unecessary to achieve their goals (me) and some don't can live without them even when on a bulk because of their size (you)

Sure I can jump in the glutamine thread and say: guys glutamine is unecessary and why not just do... or just take...whatever

It's all about your lifestyle and personal preferences...

(btw Zkid, this is a place to discuss top gainers, not a place to bash gainers in general)

JM

[zkid002]

Ok well I have many things to say regarding your post...

First off, you weigh 114lbs don't get too offensive, it's the truth)

Second, I DO IN FACT MAKE MY OWN GAINER...(read my some my post either on this page or the last one)

I have many things to say regarding your posts...lol

Let's start from the beginning...

You said "unless you need 4000k" ok now when bulking this is very popular number, me for example, try to take in 4000k a day...

Then you said "why would you want quick calories" (this one made me chuckle, honestly)

Has it ever ocurred to you alot of guys here are in school (whether high school, college or university and if not they have a JOB)

Along with other activities like sports, homework for some, extra activities that get in the way of sitting down for 20-30 minutes and having a nice meal...

Perfect example right here: (the day of Joey Mo)
I have enough sh!t to do: Homework (don't worry I get plenty of it, I am in all the higher courses and believe me I have to work to keep the grades up so I can study to be a doctor)

Martial Arts (kenpo) I have this 2-3 times a week, takes up a minimum of 2 hours of my night, and can even take up a nice 3 hours...

Ice hockey: another 2 hours of my time twice a week

(soon to be) Part time job on weekends (roughly 10 hours a week, maybe more) not a whole lot but nevertheless 10 hours gone there..

And of course: WORKING OUT (3 times a week, takes up a nice 2 hours of my night)

So you can see my day is pretty busy...I am no pro at managing my time but am surprised because lately I have been balancing my lifts, dieting, sports, school+hw quite well..

I have gained a nice 7lbs since school has started and am far from done...

So now do you know why we want quick calories??

So next time dude, don't come in here saying, you don't need a gainer, eat food, eat more meals, eat more this, blah blah blah...

It depends on how busy you are, how BIG you are and what you WANT

You my friend are 114lbs, you don't need a gainer, hell you would be alive and well without any type of whey protein...

I am no huge monster, but I like to take in a nice 1.4 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight (on average) (1.3 minimum) which gives me between 214 and 230 grams of protein

If you did this you would only need 160 grams of protein...

Do you see the difference...now imagine a big guy (let's say 200lbs and he's on a bulk) (let's say he's aiming for 1.4 grams per lb) well he's gonna want 280 grams of protein

See the difference bro?

You can diss a gainer all you want (I am not even getting defensive, how can I? I don't even take a gainer nor plan on taking one in the next few months), but you could diss forever, but guys will still take them, because of their goals and their lifestyles and let's not forget their size..

Some guys feel they are a great help, some think they are unecessary to achieve their goals (me) and some don't can live without them even when on a bulk because of their size (you)

Sure I can jump in the glutamine thread and say: guys glutamine is unecessary and why not just do... or just take...whatever

It's all about your lifestyle and personal preferences...

(btw Zkid, this is a place to discuss top gainers, not a place to bash gainers in general)

JM

GReat post, made me realize some things, Ill actually rep you for this one!..Se yah around Joey, keep it up bro!..:)..

[Blue Blazer]

GReat post, made me realize some things, Ill actually rep you for this one!..Se yah around Joey, keep it up bro!..:)..

I was expecting a neg, but I felt as if I had to get the message threw, not just you, but to everyone else who doesn't understand the point of a gainer...so I could try and educate as much as I could those who don't understand the principles of a weight gainer..

Sorry I brought up your weight, it was unprofessional, I was a little offended (since I have taken gainers many times in the past)

JM

[zkid002]

I was expecting a neg, but I felt as if I had to get the message threw, not just you, but to everyone else who doesn't understand the point of a gainer...so I could try and educate as much as I could those who don't understand the principles of a weight gainer..

Sorry I brought up your weight, it was unprofessional, I was a little offended (since I have taken gainers many times in the past)

JM

Hey, you were going to neg me if I negged, but I repped...so I expect for you to return the favor! ;)..lol(for real though, nice words, but show the kindness in return)
Sincerely, Josh

[Palmmute]

russian bear 5000 and homemade mass shakes... now, i don't use the russian bear as a weight gainer; i add 1 scoop of it and 1 scoop whey to 1/2 gallon of milk and drink it when i wake up at night and throughout the day as my extra calorie/protein source...
for an actual mass gainer, i make my own out of eggs, whey, oats, bananas, peanut butter, ice cubes, honey, raisins... whatever else i feel like throwin in. nothin beats real food. and then i slam it down with some pasta or something... and i dont see how throwing these things together in a blender is much more time consuming than a mass gainer mix...
i weigh 215 at 5'8" (dont see what gettin older has to do with it either)

[Chris A]

I was thinking of trying BSN true mass but it has 18mg of iron per serving.... **** that's a lot of iron i don't want to be consuming that much. I've heard men should be careful not to consume too much iron?

[TopBoyNow]

I dont understand who would need a weight gainer, unless they have to get in about 4,000 Calories!!!...You know all the foods that are out there!..Jeuss!!..They are 100% A BETTER CHOICE!..Make your own NATURAL Weight Gainer Shake if anything...Take some Oats, Bananas, Whey/Casein Powder, Eggs, Milk, and Toss in some Ice, & Blend it up!..If anything, that is what should be done!..I mean, why would you even want quick calories like this?...when you can enjoy, and eat more at meals, or make your own delicious smoothy shake?..This is Just an opinion, so dont get too offensive guys, because I know how some people on here can get..This is to discuss, not go nuts..

I Disagree
I have to say gainers are Great, and they do put on the weight with a good diet..

Cytogainer
realgains + peanut butter
Pro complex gainer

If it wernt for the gainers i would be featherweight, i was 110 5 months back and im now 148 still a lightweight but a big improvement, it has also increased my appetite , i can consume about 4k now......

Some people dont have time to sit down all day and eat, so a gainer is a great option if you havent got time

kk

[Blue Blazer]

I was thinking of trying BSN true mass but it has 18g of iron per serving.... **** that's a lot of iron i don't want to be consuming that much. I've heard men should be careful not to consume too much iron?

18 grams of Iron?? No way that's possible...

18 mg's maybe, but no way am I believing 18 grams, that doesn't make any sense..

[Chris A]

oops ya i meant 18mg still quite a bit isnt it?

[NLtrackStar]

Tried N Large 2 and it didn't do much.. thinkin about trying True Mass.

[Blue Blazer]

Tried N Large 2 and it didn't do much.. thinkin about trying True Mass.

Yeah I am leaning towards True Mass as well...if not try CytoGainer or even Nutrabolics Iso-Gainer...both are excellent gainers..

IMO Iso-Gainer made a REAL NICE gainer, alot like cytogainer, but slightly higher in everything, coming close to 700cals..

JM

[Prophetic~Poet]

i have CYTOGAINER...now when i take it i put only one scoop....the directions say 4!!!....

can it be still be effective using one scoop...?

[Lagz]

I have tried Optimum Serious Mass, and I'm almost done with a 10lb tub of Ultimate Nutrition Muscle Juice 2544. The Muscle Juice has a bit stronger chocolate taste, but overall pretty good. I would say I have saw more weight gain using the Serious Mass. I picked up the Muscle Juice because I was low on cash this path month. I think I will try the Cyto Gainer coming up as a pre and post workout shake.

Since the Cyto Gainer is 4 scoops per serving, should I do half a serving before workout and the other half after? Or two full servings before and after? I will also be drinking a protein shake during the day because my job doesn't allow me to have time to get all my meals in.

[Lean2Mass]

Tried N Large 2 and it didn't do much.. thinkin about trying True Mass.

N-Large 2 works for me. I recommend it over CytoGainer and Real Gains.

[Triple_A]

Hey i've read the lables on the CytoGainer and im taking it rite now. I dont think u need to take any BCAAs or Any creatine monohydrate while on it. Because this product has more Bcaas and Creatine monohydrate then the actual serving from the products. I have Creatine monohydrate and Bcaa pills but im saving it for the kind of proteins that dont have those.

[Blue Blazer]

I have tried Optimum Serious Mass, and I'm almost done with a 10lb tub of Ultimate Nutrition Muscle Juice 2544. The Muscle Juice has a bit stronger chocolate taste, but overall pretty good. I would say I have saw more weight gain using the Serious Mass. I picked up the Muscle Juice because I was low on cash this path month. I think I will try the Cyto Gainer coming up as a pre and post workout shake.

Since the Cyto Gainer is 4 scoops per serving, should I do half a serving before workout and the other half after? Or two full servings before and after? I will also be drinking a protein shake during the day because my job doesn't allow me to have time to get all my meals in.

Ok well first off taking 2 scoops or even a full serving before and after a workout sounds idiotic imo...

Why would you want to have 300-600 cals before and after, doesn't make sense to me...

Here's how I use to take it:

3 scoops between breakfeast and lunch and 3 scoops pwo

And you said you will be taking whey during the day, well now you've really lost me...

In your position I would take between 2 and 4 scoops (depending on diet) when at work and another 2-4 scoops another time during the day AND take your whey pwo with a nice meal...or you could even do 2 scoops cyto and 1 scoop whey pwo...sounds like a decent idea to me..(if you took cyto and whey pwo, there would be no need to take it two other times during the day, just once at work..)

Hope this helped..JM

[Blue Blazer]

i have CYTOGAINER...now when i take it i put only one scoop....the directions say 4!!!....

can it be still be effective using one scoop...?

I honestly think if your going to just take one scoop of it that your better off with a normal whey...

CytoGainer has 580 cals, 5 grams of fat, 54 grams of protein and roughly 80 grams of carbs..

Divide that by 4 and your not getting much lol..

If your on a bulk with a low body fat percentage and even a bit ecto, I would do something like 6 scoops a day (3 scoops per shake)

Or you can mix it up a bit and do 2 shakes (2 scoops per shake)...

It will vary with your workout and goals and of course your size and diet..

Like if I had cyto at the time I would do 2 full servings, but eh that's just me..

JM

[Blue Blazer]

Hey i've read the lables on the CytoGainer and im taking it rite now. I dont think u need to take any BCAAs or Any creatine monohydrate while on it. Because this product has more Bcaas and Creatine monohydrate then the actual serving from the products. I have Creatine monohydrate and Bcaa pills but im saving it for the kind of proteins that dont have those.

Ok well I have taken cytogainer in the past along with BCAA's (caps from GNC, they sucked I wasn't getting much from them lol)

At one point you say: this product has more Bcaas and Creatine Mono then the actual serving from the products..

Yeah well I don't know if I am reading this wrong, but your wrong...

I don't have my Cyto tub anymore but you realise the amino acid count is for 100grams of protein...

And per 1 serving I remember it contained 3 grams of creatine mono so if you took two full shakes you got 6 grams, (I always took 6 scoops a day, 3 scoops per shake)

As for the Bcaas I do not remember how much one shake contained, but I seirously doubt it contained 5000mg which is a common serving for bcaas (like the ON BCAA 5000 powder I am currently taking)

Maybe 1 serving contains 2500 but I'd be quite surprised...

If I it is in fact true please post it up...thanks

JM

[RiseOfTheTyrant]

so I decided to just go for it today and bought the 6lb tub of Cyto Gainer.. Chocolate Mint. thinking about doing two servings (of 4 scoops each; so 8 scoops total) a day.. morning and post workout, unless you guys think that may be too much.. i'm 165 lbs, tryin to bulk up a lot, i'm eating tons and lifting hard.. taking my EFA's and multivitamin as well.

[CaSHMeRe]

so I decided to just go for it today and bought the 6lb tub of Cyto Gainer.. Chocolate Mint. thinking about doing two servings (of 4 scoops each; so 8 scoops total) a day.. morning and post workout, unless you guys think that may be too much.. i'm 165 lbs, tryin to bulk up a lot, i'm eating tons and lifting hard.. taking my EFA's and multivitamin as well.

i would say that is a little much ...

you want to try and get more "Real Foods" ... I would do 1 cytogainer shake, and then make a shake out of oats, peanut butter, milk, etc....

I have Cyto Gainer as well ... Chocolate Carmel... pretty good ...

only other thing i could think of is BCAA's !!!

EDIT: I take my weightgainer shake right after i workout! Shoves carbs/protein into my system real quick!

also... cyto can sometimes be ruff on the tummy... i couldn't even imagine it twice a day.

I wake up with a whey shake. eat through the day ... workout, then my cyto gainer. then din din a couple hours later, then follow it up with casein protein and a huge glass of milk!

[Blue Blazer]

Meh, I use to take cytogainer when I weighed 150-155lbs twice a day (3 scoops per shake, 6 scoops total)

It was great for me...Wasn't that hard on the stomach..I too had chocolate caramel swirl and I despised it lol

Then again, I have despised every gainer I've tried, so yeah, my opinion on taste means nothing lol

Well you weigh 165 and so do I, so in your position I would do 6 scoops a day...but this is just my opinion

JM

[RiseOfTheTyrant]

wow.. just had my first shake of Cyto Gainer Chocolate Mint.. this **** is delicious! I was expecting it to taste like rotten ass, but nope.. it's like those mint girl scout cookies.. mmm!

[welcmhm]

I just finished my first tub of chocolate malt cytogainer. I didn't gain as much weight as I really wanted (about 150 to 158), but I think my body fat percentage went down during that time as well (not measured, but just by my own eyes). The taste was great and overall I was very satisfied with the product and will be trying another flavor next time I get a chance to buy.

[Lagz]

Ok well first off taking 2 scoops or even a full serving before and after a workout sounds idiotic imo...

Why would you want to have 300-600 cals before and after, doesn't make sense to me...

Here's how I use to take it:

3 scoops between breakfeast and lunch and 3 scoops pwo

And you said you will be taking whey during the day, well now you've really lost me...

In your position I would take between 2 and 4 scoops (depending on diet) when at work and another 2-4 scoops another time during the day AND take your whey pwo with a nice meal...or you could even do 2 scoops cyto and 1 scoop whey pwo...sounds like a decent idea to me..(if you took cyto and whey pwo, there would be no need to take it two other times during the day, just once at work..)

Hope this helped..JM

I guess I read some posts wrong here on the forums, I was thinking it was best to take the Cyto as a pre and post workout shake. Thanks for clearing that up. I usually drink a shake between breakfast and lunch everyday now, so what you mentioned will fit into my schedule for sure. I'm going to skip out on the whey for this next month and stick to the Cyto and see what results I get. I'm at 139 right now, so since August first when I started bulking and working out I've put on 20lbs.

[Blue Blazer]

I guess I read some posts wrong here on the forums, I was thinking it was best to take the Cyto as a pre and post workout shake. Thanks for clearing that up. I usually drink a shake between breakfast and lunch everyday now, so what you mentioned will fit into my schedule for sure. I'm going to skip out on the whey for this next month and stick to the Cyto and see what results I get. I'm at 139 right now, so since August first when I started bulking and working out I've put on 20lbs.

Well I don't know, I've never heard of people taking it pre and pwo...doesn't add up to me...

Ask others just to make sure though, but I've never taken it this way..JM

[FA702]

isopure mass is cleaner then a fresh pair of sneakers bro

[Blue Blazer]

isopure mass is cleaner then a fresh pair of sneakers bro

About the same as Cytogainer...looks like an awesome gainer..

I see that it has high levels of bcaas...I read over 7000mg of isoleucine I think...

Is this per shake or per 100grams of protein??

All around an awesome gainer though..

Edit: Seems like this is good for a guy who wants nothing but ion and isolate whey, because there is absolutely no miscellar casein and whey concentrates...

Nevertheless an awesome gainer..

JM

[whsfball24]

Muscle Juice Cook n Creme

[FA702]

its not that hard for me to gain weight ... so i have to have clean ingriedents ... i took prolab n large 2 and i gained weight around my stomach and i was taking 2 scoops instead of four! ... so what im looking for is a clean "mass" gainer atleast single digits in fat and sugar ya digggg

[misrababbu]

I have used cytogainer and N-large both, but i guess cytogainer is the better one as i can see i have gained almost 10 lbs, but i am confused that it is the good idea to keep taking the weight gainer or not?? i am 6.1" and 175 lbs but wanna be much thicker but with cuts not the fat anybody has any idea what should i do? or should i take soem fat burner to develope some good cuts.
thanks in advance.

[FA702]

CLEANEST GAINERS - universal real gains , on pro complex gainer , isopure mass , and lee labrada lean mass gainer

[Blue Blazer]

CLEANEST GAINERS - universal real gains , on pro complex gainer , isopure mass , and lee labrada lean mass gainer

Cytogainer is clean too...JM

[RiseOfTheTyrant]

Cytogainer is clean too...JM

yep and doesn't mess up my stomach.. mmm and chocolate mint is soo tasty

[Danzavier]

Ya i gained like 15 lbs. on cytogainer. chocalate malt is my fav.

[deadforaminute]

Muscle Juice Cook n Creme

x2

[stoobz]

mhp - up your mass. stuff doesnt come in to many flavors but gets awesome results over any other gainer ive had.

[scgamecock]

i liked IDS smartgainer. the strawberry/banana mixed really well with my smoothies. a buddy of mine lives by cytogainer. both are solid gainers

[Triple_A]

Well correct me if im wrong but the current bcaas i have is PVL Super Bcaas and it has L-Leucine 1300mg and i thought for every 100 mg/gram

[Triple_A]

cyotogainer has 11.5 grams of L-leucine for every 100 grams of proteins and super bcaas has 1300mg.

[stepup.stepout]

isopure mass is cleaner then a fresh pair of sneakers broisopure mass is more of a laxative than a protein shake for me haha.

[15 Inches Long]

VIAGRA... your dick get really big really fast and u gain weight really fast!!!!

[em1988]

i think that for 27 dollars the best weight gainer would be Tech X mass . 7.0lbs , has a lot of protein , carbs, leucine, ect..

[Blue Blazer]

VIAGRA... your dick get really big really fast and u gain weight really fast!!!!

15 inches long, yeah you wish man haha...that's like a world record...

I wouldn't even want it 15 inches long lol..JM

[yanksbgood]

i think that for 27 dollars the best weight gainer would be Tech X mass . 7.0lbs , has a lot of protein , carbs, leucine, ect..
This does have a decent nutrient profile, and while it is fairly cheap, and tastes fine, it is highly unmixable. They claim that you can mix 4 scoops into 16 oz of water. That is damn near impossible. Mixing 2 scoops in about 8-10 ounces of water yields alot of clumping and sticking. Id hate to think what 4 scoops would look like.

[Blue Blazer]

The one I really want to try is True Mass, I was very surprised it won best overall weight gainer...VERY surprised...because we here so much about real gains and cytogainer..hell we here alot about muscle juice and serious mass as well..

I was really shocked...So I am guessing it should be pretty good if it won best overall gainer...unless these things are rigged (kidding) lol

JM

[ukbsktbll]

i like 2 scoops whey - Optimum Whey, 12 oz milk or so, 1 cup of oats, 2-4 eggs, and up to a 1/4 cup of canola oil. I either drink this in two servings, or make two different ones. 2 eggs and less oil.

Its all real food. Healthy oil counteracts and bad fat in the eggs. Oats are healthy. Just make sure you use a multi to prevent biotin deficiency if u drink this a lot. I have been for over a month and have had no problems. Plus it is real cheap.

[Blue Blazer]

i like 2 scoops whey - Optimum Whey, 12 oz milk or so, 1 cup of oats, 2-4 eggs, and up to a 1/4 cup of canola oil. I either drink this in two servings, or make two different ones. 2 eggs and less oil.

Its all real food. Healthy oil counteracts and bad fat in the eggs. Oats are healthy. Just make sure you use a multi to prevent biotin deficiency if u drink this a lot. I have been for over a month and have had no problems. Plus it is real cheap.

Agreed I do this as well...a little differently though

Here's my shake:

1. 1 scoop of whey
2. 1 cup of oats
3. 2 teaspoons of canola
4. 2 tbs of Natural PB
5. 2 teaspoons of some kinda flax powder with high fiber (it's awesome lol)
*Optional
6.1 scoop of Casein (I add the casein sometimes...usally half a scoop 15 grams of protein)


Works great...JM

[Iron Leeroy]

I just started taking AST's Muscle XGF. This is an awesome product. Everything you want in a weight gainer without the empty calories.
I saw a lot of posts saying the best was whatever has the highest calories. That is stupid, if that were the case i'd eat sugar all day and id be massive????? I dont think so, if it doesnt help protein sythesis it'll just make you fat!

[Blue Blazer]

I just started taking AST's Muscle XGF. This is an awesome product. Everything you want in a weight gainer without the empty calories.
I saw a lot of posts saying the best was whatever has the highest calories. That is stupid, if that were the case i'd eat sugar all day and id be massive????? I dont think so, if it doesnt help protein sythesis it'll just make you fat!

Very true...I don't think you need a 1200 calorie shake to gain weight..

Cytogainer and Real Gains are each 580 and around 600 for real gains I think...a lean mass gainer...with cytogainer, I gained very little fat..an impressive gainer..

Just looking at AST's gainer, well I don't know much about weight gaining, because if I did I would probobly weigh more than 165...lol

No pro at this, but I find it very odd it is so low in carbs and high in fats...not questionning it, because the guys who designed it are smarter than I probobly ever will be, so I can't say anything really haha

Any reason it is very low in carbs yet very high in fats compared to gainers like Cyto, N large, ON pro complex gainer, Real gains...

JM

[deadforaminute]

just to give everyone a heads up... i am on my third bucket of muscle juice and ive gained 10lbs, there is noticable fat increase but this was to be expected.. however, ive been worried about my colesterol levels lately due to the mj high amount of sat fat.. also i woke up last night at 3am with what seamed like a panic attack and heart racing... checked my blood pressure today, its up to 141/75 53bpm.. im a little freaked out and stopping my muscle juice usage for a while to see if my bp goes back to normall

[RDAWGPUMPED]

I think real gains has the best profile, best tastes, and Cals

That is compared to the rest.

Also I have tried NOW Pro-Gainer! Pretty Good! I just add some peanut butter and milk to get the protien and cals up! For the price cant beat it!

EDIT: Also just to let you know when i add milk and and peanut butter that makes it about 66 protien and easily over a 1000 cals!

ALSO THE SCOOP IS WRONG! You only need 6 1/2 oz which would be approx 1 3/4 scoop! (PRO-GAINER)

The only bad thing is the suger! 62G WOW!

[Ippeas2003]

Heavy Weight Gainer 900, great stuff and cheap too!

[Lagz]

I just switched from Muscle Juice to Cyto Gainer a few days ago. I picked up the cookies n cream. It is a lot thicker than the Muscle Juice and tastes pretty good. I'm going with chocolate next time though. Once I'm done with this tub I'll chime in and report my gains.

[seish]

dorian yates propeptide mbf.

[miller4554]

give me a break, obviously Real Gains

[AMillane7]

just bought muscle juice..taste is incredible! i hate whey taste with a passion and this made drinking it fun...

ill say it now so someone else doesnt make the joke

"60g of sugar will do that"

[Blue Blazer]

Anyone here ever try Xience X Gainer??

JM

[mustanglifter]

Real gains...we sell it at my store. Everyone loves it and i see these people all the time and you can really see a difference.

[Chris A]

i gained like 5 or 6lbs by the time i finished my first smaller tub of cytogainer over the last month or so along with a half-decent diet. I only took it PWO too and usu only like 2 or 3 scoops with milk. My bodyfat is still around the same too maybe a tad higher but hard to tell, that's expected anyways. A nice slow but steady lean gain, this stuff is awesome. Tastes pretty friggin good too (chocolate malt). Gonna prolly go buy another tub of it soon.

[Mac666]

I've taken 3 containers of True Mass (1x Strawberry, 2x Vanilla - better taste) and have gained 25lbs within 12 weeks. That's what I call a weight gainer! Btw: I'm down to 9% body fat now, so the gainer is really low on fat ;-)

Just my 2 cent!

[_Mazza_]

Interactive Nutrition Mammoth 2500 tastes great in Vanilla and has 1000 calories per serving, looks pretty good, only had it once though, so unsure about how it works but I've only heard good things.

[DaniCali]

Ultimate Nutrition, Muscle Juice.

[Blue Blazer]

I've taken 3 containers of True Mass (1x Strawberry, 2x Vanilla - better taste) and have gained 25lbs within 12 weeks. That's what I call a weight gainer! Btw: I'm down to 9% body fat now, so the gainer is really low on fat ;-)

Just my 2 cent!

Well I'm sold man...3 months and you put on 25lbs, very nice...of course your diet played a big role, but I bet that gainer sure did play it's part as well...NICE MAN!

That's about 8.4 lbs a month, very solid gains...

When I'm out of ON Whey, I think I am going to go back to a gainer, either True Mass, Cytogainer or ON pro Complex gainer...depending on what she has in stock..

I will call her tomorrow and ask her if she can get me some True Mass, since she does carry BSN Products..

I will buy the True Mass, another tub of ON Whey, a creatine, I am thinking CellMass (since she doesn't carry many good creatines and cellmass seems pretty solid to me) and grab some more fish oil and flax oil

Can't wait...JM

[darkfact]

I'm a big fan of the homemade weight gainer. I saw a post by Cakedonkey over a year ago and haven't looked back. Just add whey into water or milk and add whatever carbs and fats you need for that particular meal/snack. From what I see this way of supplementing protein powder has really taken off in the last few years.

[Blue Blazer]

I'm a big fan of the homemade weight gainer. I saw a post by Cakedonkey over a year ago and haven't looked back. Just add whey into water or milk and add whatever carbs and fats you need for that particular meal/snack. From what I see this way of supplementing protein powder has really taken off in the last few years.

Yeah I made homemade gainers...here's what one usally looks like:

1. 1 scoop of whey
2. 1 cup of oats
3. 2 teaspoons of Olive or Canola Oil
4. PB (time to time..)
5. BCAA's (this goes in my pwo shake, no fats in that shake)
6. Casein (I'll throw in half a scoop in the night sometimes...)

Awesome gainer imo haha, JM

[chinaboxer]

2x Big Mac's, supersized large fries, and a chocolate milkshake

[Mac666]

I will buy the True Mass, another tub of ON Whey, a creatine, I am thinking CellMass (since she doesn't carry many good creatines and cellmass seems pretty solid to me) and grab some more fish oil and flax oil


Thanks for the kind words. I'm now in a definition phase for another week and hope that the pain in my forearm vanishes before I start bulking up again. Hope to get additional 20lbs in the next 3-4 months!

I've also used Cellmass (to be exact I used almost everything from BSN ;-)
It seemd good to me, altough I expected a bit more... probably got more out of the NO-Xplode and Nitrix.

I'm trying to gulp a bucket of Ultimate Muscle Juice now, just for the sake of taste variety before going back to Truemass.

[Blue Blazer]

Thanks for the kind words. I'm now in a definition phase for another week and hope that the pain in my forearm vanishes before I start bulking up again. Hope to get additional 20lbs in the next 3-4 months!

I've also used Cellmass (to be exact I used almost everything from BSN ;-)
It seemd good to me, altough I expected a bit more... probably got more out of the NO-Xplode and Nitrix.

I'm trying to gulp a bucket of Ultimate Muscle Juice now, just for the sake of taste variety before going back to Truemass.

Nice...so as far as creatine goes what would you recommend then?

JM

[Mac666]

Nice...so as far as creatine goes what would you recommend then?

JM

Can't say, really. I'm into this now for 4 months and only tried Cellmass yet. So I really don't know what to expect from Creatin, but I thought the effect would be better. I'll try Goldfield CreaForceXL next. I already have it at home, but have to wait a month to start the next cycle. Can tell you then if it's better than Cellmass (or at least works better for me). The good thing with CreaForceXL is that you only take one pill a day. Is easier than get all those Shakes in time ;-)

Have fun,
Michael

[Ajk_Lpool]

Interactive Nutrition Mammoth 2500 tastes great in Vanilla and has 1000 calories per serving, looks pretty good, only had it once though, so unsure about how it works but I've only heard good things.

It's awful. It is just whey concentrate packed with simple carbs. Each serving has around 50 grams of protein, and 250grams simple carbs.

[pitchking]

RUSSIAN BEAR 5000!

5000 calories and 295 grams of protein(rly unhealthy FYI)

[hecta7]

Wow love this thread, but now im mixed between Real Gains and CytoGainer. XD

[Chris A]

Go with cyto!

[Dagda]

cytogainer is a real sweet gainer but it has creatine in it which i dont think it should because i take cellmass already anyway.

I use Pro-Lab N Large 2. tastes good with a small amount of water 600 cals, 50 grams of protein and all sorts of other sweet stuff. for some reason though, if you add a bit too much water the taste is like getting punched in the face.

[helmintoller]

cytogainer is a real sweet gainer but it has creatine in it which i dont think it should because i take cellmass already anyway.

I use Pro-Lab N Large 2. tastes good with a small amount of water 600 cals, 50 grams of protein and all sorts of other sweet stuff. for some reason though, if you add a bit too much water the taste is like getting punched in the face.


i've put on 7 pounds in 2 weeks on cytogainer, a little fat gain, my weight is up to 217, bodyfat went from 19% to 20%. the cookies and cream isn't too bad. if you use the 16oz of water, it feels like drinking saliva, so i'll lessen the water to around 12oz to thicken it up.

[Blue Blazer]

cytogainer is a real sweet gainer but it has creatine in it which i dont think it should because i take cellmass already anyway.

I use Pro-Lab N Large 2. tastes good with a small amount of water 600 cals, 50 grams of protein and all sorts of other sweet stuff. for some reason though, if you add a bit too much water the taste is like getting punched in the face.

Prolab has 28 grams of sugar, kind of high imo...

Cytogainer!

[RedlineRider]

Universal Real Gains FTW. Cheap too:D

[skinnyshit78]

real gains

[azn.pitbull]

ive had BSN True Mass AND Cytogainer before. they work very well and the nutrient profile of both gainers are amazing. i actually have some Cytogainer Chocolate Malt right now and BSN True Mass Chocolate flavor. cant wait to find out how much lean body mass im going to put on with these babies. :D

[Above Existence]

This Russian Bear 5000 sounds interesting, BUT it DOESN'T list the grams of sugar and sodium perserving. If anyone here knows, then please post. Thanks.

[hecta7]

Seems like all the supplement stores where i live dont have or cant get cyto gainer, so i just grabbed a bucket of real gains.. hope this works! lol

[nugs88]

Hey, i want to compete in my first physique comp next year. I am an old hand at weight training but have always found it hard to drop the fat, building muscle is not a prob at this point in time. I would like advice on the best thermogenic or similar fat metabolising supplemenes that I could try. Have used a few in the past with very little results. At the moment I am taking Muscletech Hydroxycut hardcore. I am female but find i need to use pretty potent stuff to get it to really have an effect. Have considred some Gen-tec products and naNOx9 - anyone have any opinion on some of these products?

[mystix]

ok heres a question, I'm really allergic to whey i put drop in my mouth i notice it right away start spitting up and i get asthma. Would I be reacting to the protein the isolate or the casinate? Is there any other weight gainer that doesnt include these ingredients?

oh yea ive been allergic all my life, im also a tad bit allergic to soy

[fates_child03]

Real gains is a favorite of mine also MHP up your mass.

[TD62]

so i have a friend he is 6' 1" tall weighs around 170lbs right now and has never really lifted before but now wants to know how he can get to 200lbs or if that is even possible for his body type? anyone have any advise?

[tuton11]

Hey does anyone think ON PRO COMPLEX is as good as the ON 100% whey? Anyone tried it?

[Blue Blazer]

Hey, i want to compete in my first physique comp next year. I am an old hand at weight training but have always found it hard to drop the fat, building muscle is not a prob at this point in time. I would like advice on the best thermogenic or similar fat metabolising supplemenes that I could try. Have used a few in the past with very little results. At the moment I am taking Muscletech Hydroxycut hardcore. I am female but find i need to use pretty potent stuff to get it to really have an effect. Have considred some Gen-tec products and naNOx9 - anyone have any opinion on some of these products?

Ok this is the WEIGHT GAINER section in supplement WARS, WEIGHT GAINER, SUPP. WARS...you really off topic here, these type of posts aren't discussed here, post them in the supplements section..



ok heres a question, I'm really allergic to whey i put drop in my mouth i notice it right away start spitting up and i get asthma. Would I be reacting to the protein the isolate or the casinate? Is there any other weight gainer that doesnt include these ingredients?

oh yea ive been allergic all my life, im also a tad bit allergic to soy

You guys realise this isn't a "post your questions thread" this is simply a thread where we debate on gainers, saying which ones we think are best and why, etc...and we throw in occasional off topic questions and comments as well but none like this...go in the supps section...but I doubt there is a gainer with ZERO whey isolate and ZERO casinate...it's possible, but alot of gainers contain whey isolate and casinate, atleast the ones I am familiar with, such as cytogainer, real gains(if not mistaken), true mass, etc...I am pretty sure all of these contain isolate whey and cytogainer does contain miscellar casein...

So imo, there cannot be many gainers with zero isolate and zero casein...


so i have a friend he is 6' 1" tall weighs around 170lbs right now and has never really lifted before but now wants to know how he can get to 200lbs or if that is even possible for his body type? anyone have any advise?

You can do anything if your dedicated...you have to work, no gainer is going to make you put on 30lbs of mass if you don't focus, commit, execute and repeat this everyday...Gainers aren't magic supplements that make you gain 30lbs of mass a month, far from it...

eating alot + 0 = fat
eating alot + weightlifting = MUSCLE MASS

(keeping in mind you have to eat clean, unless you dirty bulk..)

JM

[Juiced Up Jeff]

Based on the numbers: Cyto Sport Cyto Gainer

-high in protien, but also too high in cholesterol

(I recommended this to my BEST friend recently).

However, today I was searching the web with a customer and found Cyto Sport Muscle Milk Collegiate!

-Plenty of calories
-low in cholesterol
-40 g protien
NCAA Compliant! (great for athletes)

Also, yesterday I tried True Mass for the first time. Taste was a little strong.

"Juiced Up Jeff"
Bodybuilding.com Rep

[doctorcarta]

i have tried True Mass, CytoGainer, GNC MassXXX, Real Gains and N Large II. My favorite would have to be N Large II mainly b/c the price/serving ratio...$50 for 30 servings! i dont think you can really beat it, however, i believe any of gainers listed above will do the trick. If price wasnt an issue, i would most likely pick True Mass b/c of their complex and diverse list of proteins.

-my 2 cents

are there any weight gainers without the sugar???

WHICH ONES???

[Blue Blazer]

are there any weight gainers without the sugar???

WHICH ONES???

Cytogainer only has 7 grams of sugar, on pro complex gainer has 6 grams, real gains has 5 grams, true mass has 14 grams of sugar big whoop

Muscle juice has 60 grams of sugar, prolab n large 2 has 28 grams...

http://bodybuilding.com/store/opt/gainer.html ... ON PRO COMPLEX GAINER FTW!

JM

[Richard2002]

I have compared between TrueMass and MassTech. There's a light advantage in True Mass

[bigash50]

I have compared between TrueMass and MassTech. There's a light advantage in True Mass

Yeah True Mass all the way, i used MassTech for few months but it isnt as good as True Mass.

[Blue Blazer]

A friend of mine is going to pick me up a gainer on the weekend, since their is no supp store here lol...

I have to call the girl to ask her what she has in stock though, then call my friend and tell him to pick it up..

I am hoping she has some true mass, but I doubt it...If not, well she always has on pro complex gainer in stock, as well as cytogainer..

Tried cyto before, was awesome, just experimenting...

JM

[Richard2002]

My next supplement weight gainer will be True Mass and Animal stack 2 see what happen after

[Blue Blazer]

Yep, going to call the girl tomorrow to ask her what she has in stock, but I am sort of leaning towards buying on 100% whey again...I almost feel I don't need the gainer to gain any weight, a little confused...

What would you guys chose between these?

1. On Whey
2. On pro complex gainer
3. True Mass
4. Cytogainer

JM

[Blue Blazer]

Never mind boys, I already got my gainer...my friend is suppose to pick it up today along with my creatine

She didn't have true mass in stock, she said she'll have it soon enough, she doesn't carry cytogainer anymore, she said strangely enough it doesn't sell...

Here's the gainers she carries:
Mutant Mass by PVL (not interested)
BSN True Mass (backorder)
Muscle Juice 2544

I went with muscle juice, can't wait to get this bad boy! Also getting eas phosphagen creatine mono...my friend will be back sunday!

CAN'T WAIT, TO GAIN SOME WEIGHT! lol..JM

[FA702]

bro why are you taking all these supplements your wasting your money get a good whey protein powder and some bulk creatine and thats it !!

[Blue Blazer]

bro why are you taking all these supplements your wasting your money get a good whey protein powder and some bulk creatine and thats it !!

Strong words...lol...All I take is Muscle Juice, Creatine, Omega 3'6'9, a multi and bcaas...stopping the bcaas when I run out...

Dude you come out of no where going on with all kinds of bull that I am wasting my money, and all I need is whey and bulk creatine

I will buy whatever I desire, and btw I don't just buy what looks cool or what everyone else is getting, I do research, I have already made posts on creatine recently, and decided to grab eas phosphagen because it was the purest form of cm she had...so shut the f*ck up

I am taking Muscle Juice, because I have about 2 hours of cardio a day, school hockey practice on ice 2x a week, karate 3x a week, 2 hockey games a week and 2-3 gym classes a week that are sometimes quite intense and I also do cardio pre workout and njoy going out to practice punches and kicks on my heavy bag...

And really it's none of your f*cking business what I buy...you just come out of f*cking nowhere telling me this and that, telling me all I need is whey...THIS IS THE WEIGHT GAINER THREAD IN THE SUPPLEMENT WARS SECTION....WEIGHT GAINERRRRR THREADDD

If I wanted your crappy advice I would have made a post in the supplements section...I don't want your opinion, I don't need your opinion...

So next time you feel the need to come out of nowhere and say dude all you need is this and this and your wasting your cash...well save it for someone who even considers your info useful...

You go on giving your advice acting you know it all....I don't know much, but it seems you know sweet f*ckall as well...I have a pretty good knowledge and I know what works for me...

So keep taking the whey you picked up at walmart along with the creatine you found in the dumpster of a gnc..

I have a job, I can afford to buy supplements...haha

JM

[Chris A]

lol at joey mo, chill dude. You're right tho you can buy whatever you want. And i agree wtf to FA702, spending money on supplements like a gainer is not a ****ing waste... I would rather have a gainer than have both creatine and whey powder. I don't think creatine is worth it and whey protein powders by itself dont have enuff cal's (Altho i have ON whey too along with a gainer). For ppl who need the extra cals and cant always get the food, gainers are a great alternative... Calories full of protein and carbs. I love cytogainer im on my 2nd small tub now and have seen some decent gains along with a half decent diet.

[FA702]

Strong words...lol...All I take is Muscle Juice, Creatine, Omega 3'6'9, a multi and bcaas...stopping the bcaas when I run out...

Dude you come out of no where going on with all kinds of bull that I am wasting my money, and all I need is whey and bulk creatine

I will buy whatever I desire, and btw I don't just buy what looks cool or what everyone else is getting, I do research, I have already made posts on creatine recently, and decided to grab eas phosphagen because it was the purest form of cm she had...so shut the f*ck up

I am taking Muscle Juice, because I have about 2 hours of cardio a day, school hockey practice on ice 2x a week, karate 3x a week, 2 hockey games a week and 2-3 gym classes a week that are sometimes quite intense and I also do cardio pre workout and njoy going out to practice punches and kicks on my heavy bag...

And really it's none of your f*cking business what I buy...you just come out of f*cking nowhere telling me this and that, telling me all I need is whey...THIS IS THE WEIGHT GAINER THREAD IN THE SUPPLEMENT WARS SECTION....WEIGHT GAINERRRRR THREADDD

If I wanted your crappy advice I would have made a post in the supplements section...I don't want your opinion, I don't need your opinion...

So next time you feel the need to come out of nowhere and say dude all you need is this and this and your wasting your cash...well save it for someone who even considers your info useful...

You go on giving your advice acting you know it all....I don't know much, but it seems you know sweet f*ckall as well...I have a pretty good knowledge and I know what works for me...

So keep taking the whey you picked up at walmart along with the creatine you found in the dumpster of a gnc..

I have a job, I can afford to buy supplements...haha

JM

hahahah fcking chyll bro ...... lmao you can buy w/e you want ..... by the way i have money to buy my supps i got ON 100 % whey and i got regular creatine mono ... thats all i need have fun with muscle juice 60 grams of sugar ... lmao

[FA702]

lol at joey mo, chill dude. You're right tho you can buy whatever you want. And i agree wtf to FA702, spending money on supplements like a gainer is not a ****ing waste... I would rather have a gainer than have both creatine and whey powder. I don't think creatine is worth it and whey protein powders by itself dont have enuff cal's (Altho i have ON whey too along with a gainer). For ppl who need the extra cals and cant always get the food, gainers are a great alternative... Calories full of protein and carbs. I love cytogainer im on my 2nd small tub now and have seen some decent gains along with a half decent diet.

and bro you weigh 15 more pounds then me and your 22 so shut it

[Chris A]

and bro you weigh 15 more pounds then me and your 22 so shut it

no u stfu im an ecto and have gained around 15 lbs since the beginning of sept, my diet isnt always the greatest too... cyto has helped with that tho.

[Blue Blazer]

Nothing wrong with whey or creatine...btw the creatine I am taking is awfully close top pure...Couldn't get pure creatine, so I got the closest thing she had...next up is ultimate nutrition's creapure

In fact for well over 2 months I was taking ON Whey, decided to go back to taking a gainer though, but that's because I have alot of homework and after school sports and what not, so I am a busy guy...that's where the gainer comes in...

Gainers can be great help...are they necessary? There's no right answer, only shades of grey really, it depends on the person and what that person does in his day...

For the record, I am not wasting my money...Gainer+cm+fish oil+bcaas= not a waste...I could do without the bcaas, but the only reason I bought these is because I had extra cash floating around and like bcaas...I made alot of fast cash last summer, so decided to grab some...won't be buying anymore, maybe when I start to cut, but maybe not...I don't feel it's necessary

I don't feel I am wasting any money, and to let you guys know, I was very chill posting, I just don't like guys coming out of nowhere telling me I am wasting my money and telling me to get things off topic to my post...people who do these things are called trolls..

Edit: BTW, I could care less about the sugar, muscle juice is not something I will be taking for a long time, one tub and that's it...I wanted to try a more "unclean" gainer, to see how my body reacted to it...I enjoy trying new things (whether its supps, adding carbs, fats, protein to the diet, etc) I am all for experimenting to see what works for me...

JM

[FA702]

Nothing wrong with whey or creatine...btw the creatine I am taking is awfully close top pure...Couldn't get pure creatine, so I got the closest thing she had...next up is ultimate nutrition's creapure

In fact for well over 2 months I was taking ON Whey, decided to go back to taking a gainer though, but that's because I have alot of homework and after school sports and what not, so I am a busy guy...that's where the gainer comes in...

Gainers can be great help...are they necessary? There's no right answer, only shades of grey really, it depends on the person and what that person does in his day...

For the record, I am not wasting my money...Gainer+cm+fish oil+bcaas= not a waste...I could do without the bcaas, but the only reason I bought these is because I had extra cash floating around and like bcaas...I made alot of fast cash last summer, so decided to grab some...won't be buying anymore, maybe when I start to cut, but maybe not...I don't feel it's necessary

I don't feel I am wasting any money, and to let you guys know, I was very chill posting, I just don't like guys coming out of nowhere telling me I am wasting my money and telling me to get things off topic to my post...people who do these things are called trolls..

Edit: BTW, I could care less about the sugar, muscle juice is not something I will be taking for a long time, one tub and that's it...I wanted to try a more "unclean" gainer, to see how my body reacted to it...I enjoy trying new things (whether its supps, adding carbs, fats, protein to the diet, etc) I am all for experimenting to see what works for me...

JM

i never said weight gainers are bad im looking for a good clean one too im just saying i've seen ppl get great results with just creatine and whey ... with a good diet and hardwork you can achieve anythyng really

[FA702]

no u stfu im an ecto and have gained around 15 lbs since the beginning of sept, my diet isnt always the greatest too... cyto has helped with that tho.

okay well im kinda ecto in a way ...

[History in Effect]

If want to just gain weight, I would suggest Muscle Juice by Ultimate Nutrition.
If you like creatine in your protein(I don't), drink Cyto Gainer
If you like something that taste good and builds good muscle, drink True-Mass and Mass-tech

[Blue Blazer]

If want to just gain weight, I would suggest Muscle Juice by Ultimate Nutrition.
If you like creatine in your protein(I don't), drink Cyto Gainer
If you like something that taste good and builds good muscle, drink True-Mass and Mass-tech

Good advice Ben, you seem like a smart guy...how did you find MassTech? I was thinking it was probobly an awful gainer, because alot of guys have nothing good to say about their products..

How did you find it? Would you recommend it to me or is it more recommended for guys 18+...

Good info, reps man...JM

[Danzavier]

Cytogainer has worked great for me. Just know that once you stop it you will drop lbs. like crazy. a good amount of the weight gained is from the creatine monohydrate a.k.a. water weight. i wish they would switch to an ethyl ester or kre-alklyn.

[Blue Blazer]

Cytogainer has worked great for me. Just know that once you stop it you will drop lbs. like crazy. a good amount of the weight gained is from the creatine monohydrate a.k.a. water weight. i wish they would switch to an ethyl ester or kre-alklyn.

When I was on cytogainer, I gained 5 solid lbs and when I was off of it, I didn't lose the weight...

JM

[History in Effect]

If you want weight gain, use Muscle Juice from Ultimate Nutrition

[Blue Blazer]

If you want weight gain, use Muscle Juice from Ultimate Nutrition

Glad I bought it then lol...did you gain much fat while taking muscle juice?? Or alot of good mass?

JM

[Blue Blazer]

MUSCLE JUICE FTW! lol

JM

[plutonianman]

What is the difference between Cytogainer and it's other product, Muscle Milk?

Cytogainer has 3 grams of creatine monohydrate per serving for starters...

[Blue Blazer]

Cytogainer has 3 grams of creatine monohydrate per serving for starters...

Cytogainer has more protein carbs and fats, not by a whole lot though...

And I think Muscle Milk only has casein protein, Is this correct?

And cytogainer has whey isolates, concentrates and miscellar casein..

JM

[History in Effect]

It also contains whey

[Blue Blazer]

It also contains whey

Yeah I thought so, but I think Muscle Milk has more miscellar casein in it...am I right or am I way off here lol

JM

[History in Effect]

EvoPro?(Micellar Alpha And Beta Caseins And Caseinates, Whey Concentrates Rich In Alpha-Lactalbumin, Whey Isolates, Whey Peptides, L-Glutamine, Taurine, Lactoferrin),

I guess you right

[Blue Blazer]

EvoPro?(Micellar Alpha And Beta Caseins And Caseinates, Whey Concentrates Rich In Alpha-Lactalbumin, Whey Isolates, Whey Peptides, L-Glutamine, Taurine, Lactoferrin),

I guess you right

I really have no clue, for whatever reason I was always under the impression muscle milk was more of a bedtime protein...

JM

[Chris A]

Cytogainer has more protein carbs and fats, not by a whole lot though...

And I think Muscle Milk only has casein protein, Is this correct?

And cytogainer has whey isolates, concentrates and miscellar casein..

JM

lol joey it's funny (in a cool way tho not ripping on you) how you're so into discussing gainers. Are you sure cyto has casein in it? I've looked at the ingredients on it all i can find is whey isolates and concentrates i dont think it has any casein. I don't want it too tho i get some casein from the milk i drink with it.

[Blue Blazer]

lol joey it's funny (in a cool way tho not ripping on you) how you're so into discussing gainers. Are you sure cyto has casein in it? I've looked at the ingredients on it all i can find is whey isolates and concentrates i dont think it has any casein. I don't want it too tho i get some casein from the milk i drink with it.

Hey Chris, well I enjoy discussing just about anything to be honest...lol

Well I am not 100percent sure of this, but I still think cyto contains casein...if I still had my tub I would check, sadly, my mom threw it out...

JM

[POR2GUE]

Look at what $23.00 buys you in food meals, maybe 3 meals. Thats how I try to relate to the cost of gainers. I have been on that sugar loaded Muscle Juice before and did put on some good weight. Some of that weight also sacrificed almost losing sight of my abs. It was just so cheap and high in calories that I said F it. At the time I didn't care, but now I do. My midsection is starting to look normal again after being off of it. Optimum Nutrition, True Mass, and Cyto are also my top choices for gainers. I have used all three of them, True Mass and ON mix the best, and that is nice cause blender washing gets old.

[gdogg75]

I have been on that sugar loaded Muscle Juice before and did put on some good weight. Some of that weight also sacrificed almost losing sight of my abs. It was just so cheap and high in calories that I said F it. At the time I didn't care, but now I do. My midsection is starting to look normal again after being off of it.
i tried that stuff for 2 days.. i couldn't stomach all that sugar... made me sick.
getting back on cyto gainer has been one of the best choices i made-

[History in Effect]

Muscle Juice was not that bad. It is just for people who want to bulk anyway possible

[Blue Blazer]

Look at what $23.00 buys you in food meals, maybe 3 meals. Thats how I try to relate to the cost of gainers. I have been on that sugar loaded Muscle Juice before and did put on some good weight. Some of that weight also sacrificed almost losing sight of my abs. It was just so cheap and high in calories that I said F it. At the time I didn't care, but now I do. My midsection is starting to look normal again after being off of it. Optimum Nutrition, True Mass, and Cyto are also my top choices for gainers. I have used all three of them, True Mass and ON mix the best, and that is nice cause blender washing gets old.

For me losing site of my abs was not an issue, since I've already lost site of them because I've been bulking for close to 3 months now...I could care less about my abs, they are still very strong and when I contract them you can still see the lines, it's very vague but when I start my cut I don't think I'll have trouble getting them back...I agree, cytogainer was an awesome gainer, but I've heard alot of good things about muscle juice and the price is good, so I said F it like you did...If I like the gains from the first tub I'll grab another, but after that I'm either going with Pro Complex Gainer, Cytogainer or True Mass (most likely True Mass, I've been eagered to try this one)


i tried that stuff for 2 days.. i couldn't stomach all that sugar... made me sick.
getting back on cyto gainer has been one of the best choices i made-

Funny, I find it's one of the better tasting gainers I've had, I don't like anything that goes down hard and that tastes strong, so I'm loving the muscle juice...do I love the taste? Hell no...I can't stand the taste of just about any gainer, but I must say this one goes down really good...


Muscle Juice was not that bad. It is just for people who want to bulk anyway possible

Agreed, Muscle Juice was the answer for me, I wanted something cheap, a bit unclean (wanted something higher in fats and carbs, due to my active schedule)

I think I will have great gains with it along with my creatine mono and with my solid diet..

JM

[ggzile]

hello newbie here, I just bought Cyto Gainer and Optimum Whey Protein, but I don't know when to drink it. Should I drink it during, before, or after I workout? thanks!

[Blue Blazer]

hello newbie here, I just bought Cyto Gainer and Optimum Whey Protein, but I don't know when to drink it. Should I drink it during, before, or after I workout? thanks!

Yeah this is a thread where we post our opinions on which gainer(s) we think are best...and we will throw in info about them stating why we like them, gains we've had, things we've heard, post our opinions and all that jazz...And occasionally there will be a question...

This isn't a place to ask questions like these, but I don't mind at all (because lord knows I have asked some questions here when first getting into gainers...but mostly quick answer ones to not upset anyone or hijack the thread)

I think I could help answer your question though, but it will depend on your height, weight, body type (skinny, muscled, average, bit of fat, really ecto, etc)

I would take 1 scoop of ON Whey pwo and I would take 2-4 scoops (depeding on weight and goals) sometime during the day (like between bk and lunch) and take another 2-4 scoops in the afternoon sometime since you'll already have the ON Whey pwo...

Now when if I was on cytogainer (like I have been in the past) For my size I'd do 3 scoops in the morning (between bk and lunch) and 3 scoops after school around 3:30pm and take ON Whey pwo...that is of course IF I had ON Whey, if not I'd take 3 scoops pwo...

Alot of it has to do with your diet and size imo...re-evaluate your diet and figure out how many scoops of cytogainer you'll need during the day to achieve your goals...

Depending on your diet, maybe you'll only need 2 in the morning and 2 in the afternoon, or maybe 3 and 2, 3&3, or any other combo...it all depends..

But in general I think 2-4 between bk and lunch is a good way to get some calories between those two meals and 2-4 scoops in the afternoon sometime...And of course I would take one scoop of ON Whey PWO along with your pwo meal, hell you could put some cyto here if desired...

Best of luck, JM

[FA702]

real gains looks great cheap too

[cheece2001]

... why hasn't any1 said anything about ABB Extreme XXL

its got good amount of calories, low cholesterol, low sat fats...enough protein and carbs.....and non of those things that u guys said has that especially the cholesterol factor in it. i see some people are looking into the gainers with a ton of calories. did u look at the cholesterol.. its like 250mg. ... some1s gona get a heart attack or something...lol

...has any1 tried ABB Extreme XXL?

... i dunno.. but it sounds like this gainer could be good.

just wana be safe...lol

[Blue Blazer]

... why hasn't any1 said anything about ABB Extreme XXL

its got good amount of calories, low cholesterol, low sat fats...enough protein and carbs.....and non of those things that u guys said has that especially the cholesterol factor in it. i see some people are looking into the gainers with a ton of calories. did u look at the cholesterol.. its like 250mg. ... some1s gona get a heart attack or something...lol

...has any1 tried ABB Extreme XXL?

... i dunno.. but it sounds like this gainer could be good.

just wana be safe...lol

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/abb/xxl.html

Doesn't even talk about how much cholesterol it has, talk about re-assurance haha just kidding

"and non of those things that u guys said has that especially the cholesterol factor in it"

Your saying cytogainer, real gains and ON pro complex gainer aren't nearly as good as the ABB one? Funny..

I take muscle juice, high in fats, high in sugars, high cholesterol content...sounds horrible doesn't it..

It sounds real unhealthy, but people have many good things to say about it, such as they gained alot of lean mass with it...surprising isn't it...

I wouldn't have even bothered trying this gainer, but honestly, I am 16, do you think a month or so with extra cholesterol in my body will kill me, hell no, maybe if I was in my 20's I'd watch out, but I have to take advantage of the weight I can gain right now, so muscle juice was the answer imo

As far as sugar goes well I am not that worried, I eat clean during the day and have am quite active..So I am not worried at all and I think I am going to put on some nice weight with Muscle Juice..

JM

[cheece2001]

i didnt' really say cyto was bad.. lol.. i'm using it right now....just kinda wanting to change it up a bit. i dunno.. maybe i'm asking too much... maybe gaining muscle isn't enuogh for me..lol..

i might stick with ctyo again.. i dunno... damn cholesterol...lol.. just cant' get it out of my head.

[Blue Blazer]

i didnt' really say cyto was bad.. lol.. i'm using it right now....just kinda wanting to change it up a bit. i dunno.. maybe i'm asking too much... maybe gaining muscle isn't enuogh for me..lol..

i might stick with ctyo again.. i dunno... damn cholesterol...lol.. just cant' get it out of my head.

From what I've been told, the cholesterol content in cytogainer is nothing to worry about...with muscle juice it is, because it's not a top knotch good quality gainer like cyto..But apparently the cholesterol in cyto comes from "clean stuff" lol...

Besides, if you eat clean during the day, I can't see what the cholesterol will do to you...but I would definitely check it out...your in your 20's maybe the cholesterol factor is more important, because I've been told at my age there was nothing to worry about

JM

[lifeguard_man]

eat true mass all day long 800 cals with milk and it tastes sooo good. I cant get the rest of them down.

[Blue Blazer]

988 posts boys, nice...since we were at 900 my goal was to bring light this thread up again and when I started the whole convo to myself thing(before last page or before before lol), people got back into it..

Let's bring this thread to 1000 lol

Muscle Juice FTW!

JM

[Lagz]

I just got some Mass-Tech last night, chocolate flavor. Maybe I didn't put enough milk in it or something, but it tasted like straight ass to me. I started with 15oz of milk, and it was so thick it took forever to transfer from the blender to the cup. I added more milk and it thinned out some but still tasted like ass. It's the after taste that just makes me want to puke.

[Chris A]

I just got some Mass-Tech last night, chocolate flavor. Maybe I didn't put enough milk in it or something, but it tasted like straight ass to me. I started with 15oz of milk, and it was so thick it took forever to transfer from the blender to the cup. I added more milk and it thinned out some but still tasted like ass. It's the after taste that just makes me want to puke.


If u want a good tasting gainer get chocolate malt cytogainer. The only gainer ive had but drink it with milk and its delicious! It's kind of a treat lol

[Blue Blazer]

9 more away from 1000! I had choc. caramel swirl cyto and hated it, but I don't like many gainers to be honest..

I just block my nose and chug it down...

Muscle Juice has been my favorite overall, goes down easiest, maybe because of all the sugar..

JM

[Big Ben 712]

go for the true mass!!!! It is expensive but it tastes good and works well...serious mass works good to and it is a lot cheaper

[judge_dread]

super heavyweight gainer 900 by Champion Nutrition, top notch

[Lagz]

Last container I had of Cyto-Gainer was the cookies-n- cream and it was decent by itself, but if you ad 2/3 cups of almonds it's pretty good. My local GNC has been out of the chocolate cyto so I haven't been able to get any. And I know one of the managers so I get a really good discount so I don't order online.

I felt like I gained a bit to much body fat on Muscle Juice, but it was pretty good. I just picked up some GNC pro performance XXX gainer to try it out. Tastes a lot better than the True mass.

[Blue Blazer]

Last container I had of Cyto-Gainer was the cookies-n- cream and it was decent by itself, but if you ad 2/3 cups of almonds it's pretty good. My local GNC has been out of the chocolate cyto so I haven't been able to get any. And I know one of the managers so I get a really good discount so I don't order online.

I felt like I gained a bit to much body fat on Muscle Juice, but it was pretty good. I just picked up some GNC pro performance XXX gainer to try it out. Tastes a lot better than the True mass.

I heard gnc's gainer was awful....is this true? links to the nutritional facts...lol

JM

[jdjprimer19]

I will never revert back to anything but Cytogainer. Here's why:

Contains 75g complex carbs that are easily absorbed: Maltodextrin, dextrose (no fructose, sucrose, which replace liver glycogen rather than muscle glycogen. Fruits containing these sugars such as banana's and strawberries should be used sparingly IMO)

54 grams of protein per serving which comes out at a roughly 2:1 carb/protein ratio

Just six grams of fat. This small amount shouldn't have a significant effect on gastric emptying taken PWO.

BCAA's, glutamine, and creatine monohydrate

Lastly, it tastes GOOD unlike many weight gainers.

Total calories is a mere 570 as opposed to brands like ABB that have over 1000; however, the good carbs and ratio make it just right. A full serving of other brands for a lengthened period of time will reduce insulin sensitivity due to the extreme amount of carbs ingested during one sitting.

[Ash Ketchum]

Cytogainer!!! sees ya!!

[Lagz]

I heard gnc's gainer was awful....is this true? links to the nutritional facts...lol

JM

It tastes pretty good. I have had their protein powder before also and it had a good taste.

http://www.********/product/index.jsp?productId=2296122&cp&sr=1&origkw=mass+xxx&kw=mass+xxx&parentPage=search

That is a link, it has the nutritional info on it. It was on sale and until payday it will due until they get some cytogainer in. I'm actually drinking some of it right now with some almonds and flax seeds, yummy.

[Blue Blazer]

POST ONE F*CKING THOUSAND! YES I HAVE ACHIEVED MY GOAL, lol...what a strange goal haha

The gnc gainer actually looks decent, how big is the heaping scoop? (how many grams)

WHOOOOOO 1000! haha

JM