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AaronX
07-02-2007, 04:05 AM
Cytogainer made all my other protein taste like antibiotics.

Good gains from cytogainer and the taste is just awesome. Not too sweet not too thick and no bloat or whatsoever. Mint chocolate here. Gonna try Cookies and creame next!

PAINisPOWER
07-02-2007, 09:36 PM
I stick with Chocolate on pretty much everything. Doesn't get old to me and kills what sweet tooth I have. Here are the weightgainers I stick to:

ON's Serious Mass is choice #1
Prolab's N-Large2
GNC Weight Gainer 2200 Gold

ItZ JoEy
07-03-2007, 03:22 PM
i have seen great gains from taking the vitamin shoppe brand weight gainer (tech x mass). I take it once a day and my only complaint is that you need alot of water/milk because of the serving size. It has .5 saturated fat and very little sugar it's on of the healthier gainers for your body

kskwerl
07-03-2007, 07:58 PM
GNC's 2200 Gainer, you guessed it 2200 calories. Taste like sand and burnt wood but if you can stand it you will get some amazing results!

Nag
07-04-2007, 11:37 AM
Muscle Juice is what ive noticed the most gains from of all the gainers ive tried. Chocolate tastes amazing. Mixes ok with water but gets clumpy with milk.
Best gainer ive had.

Dark_Warrior
07-04-2007, 12:24 PM
I'm sure this has been said, but...

2-3 scoops whey, natty peanut butter, oats, and if it's pwo I add some sugar.

Grant73
07-04-2007, 02:22 PM
GNC's 2200 Gainer, you guessed it 2200 calories. Taste like sand and burnt wood but if you can stand it you will get some amazing results!
Look at the amount of protein 2200 has. 69grams per. 495 grams mixed with milk. With milk that is around .14grams. Up your Mass has 46 grams per 132 grams mixed with water. This around .35 grams. GNC has 115 grams of sugar compared to only 1.5 grams of sugar in Up Your Mass. If you were to mix 495 grams of up your mass mixed with 3 cups 2% milk you would over 2700 cals and under 40 grams of sugar and over 190 grams of protein.

Super Mario
07-04-2007, 05:56 PM
Okey, I did put 17 lbs in one month using cyto gainer and going to the gym 4 times a week...

Even not getting ever 8 hours sleep...
Cytogainer works...
I did get also a little increase in fat... but is not so much...

17 lbs in a month is worth it...
Regarding the taste, I tried two of em

Chocolate mint (awesome)
Banana (it doesn't taste so good, buy mixed with one banana is perfect.)

jfla32033
07-04-2007, 06:01 PM
Okey, I did put 17 lbs in one month using cyto gainer and going to the gym 4 times a week...

Even not getting ever 8 hours sleep...
Cytogainer works...
I did get also a little increase in fat... but is not so much...

17 lbs in a month is worth it...
Regarding the taste, I tried two of em

Chocolate mint (awesome)
Banana (it doesn't taste so good, buy mixed with one banana is perfect.)


17 lbs in 1 month? How much fat gain?

and what were your daily calories?

TheSource00
07-05-2007, 07:24 AM
Is cardio a part of anyones workout when theyre bulking? At least to maybe burn off some of the extra carbs, calories and fat?

etowner
07-06-2007, 10:55 PM
I tried BioX's Lean Mass (Canadian brand) last summer, gained about 10 lbs or so, but did not like the excess layers that were starting to develop around my abs/obliques, stuff had way too much sugar. I just burned it all off!

I just started taking Dymatize's Mega Gainer Vanilla, really like the stuff right now. Tastes decent, has 600 calories, only 3 g of fat (1 g of good fatty acid fats), 2 g of glutamine, 5 g of creatine and only 5 g of sugar (most important to me). I was thinking of buying some creatine before but this gainer already had enough for my needs, saved me some $!

So far in two weeks I have gained 2lbs, not too shabby. May have to try Cytogainer in the future, depending on the price. 10 pounder of Mega Gainer only cost me $80 CDN, which is pretty cheap!

jdubs2
07-07-2007, 09:09 PM
i would have to say ergopharm mass meal.. i just finished my 2nd container and have gained about 8 solid pounds since... of course diet and training had much to do with the gains but i feel mass meal assisted greatly... oh yea, chocolate fugde tastes great!!!!!

DottsBaller5
07-07-2007, 09:36 PM
How's GNC Mass XXX? 50g protein

Chongo114
07-08-2007, 06:51 PM
Some of you guys say that you mix oats along with your whey as a homemade weight gainer. I've never attempted this but it sounds better than spending $$$ on crap that will make me a fat ass. How do you mix the oats along with the whey... is it right out of the tub without cooking it? Do you use a blender or just a shaker?

Thanks for the help

Maxfits202
07-08-2007, 07:17 PM
use a blender and yeah right out of the container, no need to cook. add pb and fruit to add to the shake

garn
07-08-2007, 07:49 PM
I don't even use a blender, just my weight gainer/protein shake of choice, and a shaker bottle. It's really good with chocolate flavored stuff..

kskwerl
07-09-2007, 11:38 AM
I got all this recipes from users off of BB.com and made it into a thread.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3540701

DannyboySC
07-09-2007, 12:37 PM
ISS Gainer kicks ass, tastes good and does not require a blender

Anthony21
07-09-2007, 04:42 PM
I would have to say Prolab's NLarge 2.

garn
07-09-2007, 05:18 PM
I would have to say Prolab's NLarge 2.

I have tried it, trust me, Real Gains and Cytogainer are far superior in every way.

Those are the only three I have tried.

SadisticOne
07-09-2007, 09:57 PM
Using Cytogainer's Strawberry and Creme right now. Have to say I'm pretty impressed...the taste is good and the calories are too. Not sure if I can keep buying the stuff so soon though..a lil pricey.

Anthony21
07-10-2007, 07:26 AM
I rather go with Nlarge 2. It's $50.00 (I believe $10 more than Cytogain) but you get twice the servings (30 in Nlarge) compared to cyto with 18 I believe.

Universal Rep
07-10-2007, 10:54 AM
Pricing for Real Gains is solid, as is the formula. Uses micellar casein and whey isolates and only 5g of sugar. PM if anyone is interested in samples.

A new flavor will be launched shortly: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=8379&highlight=Real+Gains

Flexi Nic
07-10-2007, 11:11 AM
I'm never getting tired of Ultimate Nutrition's Muscle Juice!
However, I am a bit disappointed in their "cookies 'n cream". But banana and strawberry kick ass......

jheslip
07-10-2007, 11:17 AM
I'm a big fan of Allmax Quikmass, tastes really good, at least the chocolate does, has an oatmeallyish aftertaste (if thats a word at all... it is now!) Alot better than any other gainers I've tried, I've gone through several 10 lb tubs and have yet to get sick of the taste. I've tried Champion's heavyweight gainer, Nutrabolics Isogainer, Prolab's NLarge2, BSN's True-Mass, Ultimate Nutrition's Muscle Juice as well as the ever so tasty GNC branded gainers and I would say the Allmax is the best so far.

DTU
07-10-2007, 05:34 PM
True Mass Vanilla: I gained 10 lbs of muscle without my bf fluctuating up and down.

bubba289
07-10-2007, 05:42 PM
any decent whey 75 grams + 2 tblsp olive oil + 1/2 - 1 cup of oats

should be around 830 cals and wont make u fat.

whitemdx03
07-11-2007, 10:34 PM
To all who had succeeded with Cyto gainer: how much and how often do you take it? I am new to weight training, 5'5" 130lbs and looking to gain 15-20 lbs, mostly muscle preferably. This is what I've planned:
non-workout days: half serving @ 10 am & 3 pm = 1 serving
workout days (3xweek): half serving @ 10 & 3pm + 1 serving 30 mins PWO = 2 serving.

I also eat a decent breakfast (most days), lunch, and usually a pretty big dinner. Comments?

btw, I found a local supplement store 'Super Supplements' that sells the cyto gainer (6 lbs) for 34.65+tax = $37.73. That's better than ordering it online! So if you live around the Seattle metro area, give them a visit. They have a pretty good inventories of all types of supplements.

SadisticOne
07-11-2007, 10:39 PM
To all who had succeeded with Cyto gainer: how much and how often do you take it? I am new to weight training, 5'5" 130lbs and looking to gain 15-20 lbs, mostly muscle preferably. This is what I've planned:
non-workout days: half serving @ 10 am & 3 pm = 1 serving
workout days (3xweek): half serving @ 10 & 3pm + 1 serving 30 mins PWO = 2 serving.

I also eat a decent breakfast (most days), lunch, and usually a pretty big dinner. Comments?

I've only been having 1 serving PWO...on off days I'll usually have it, but really only as a convenience when I can't find food to eat. Timing on off-days doesn't matter as much I don't think, I just have 1 serving in between dinner and bedtime most times.

I might consider splitting them up sometimes too; I have to say having one full serving at once is rough haha.

TANK25
07-12-2007, 11:12 AM
What is a good weight gainer that is easy on the gut? Most weight gainers go right through me.

extremeX75
07-12-2007, 11:24 AM
What is a good weight gainer that is easy on the gut? Most weight gainers go right through me.

Take a look at Optimum Nutrition's Pro Complex gainer and Nature's own Iso MASS. I believe these are both good for een those that are lactose and tolerant. The Pro Complex's got some digestives enzymes in there that help and I haven't noticed anything latley and I have been on it for about a month now with 2 shakes day along with my other 5 meals.

TANK25
07-12-2007, 11:30 AM
[QUOTE=extremeX75;59375901]Take a look at Optimum Nutrition's Pro Complex gainer and Nature's own Iso MASS. I believe these are both good for een those that are lactose and tolerant. The Pro Complex's got some digestives enzymes in there that help and I haven't noticed anything latley and I have been on it for about a month now with 2 shakes day along with my other 5 meals.[/QUOTE



Thanks!!!!

Above Existence
07-12-2007, 05:31 PM
To all who had succeeded with Cyto gainer: how much and how often do you take it? I am new to weight training, 5'5" 130lbs and looking to gain 15-20 lbs, mostly muscle preferably. This is what I've planned:
non-workout days: half serving @ 10 am & 3 pm = 1 serving
workout days (3xweek): half serving @ 10 & 3pm + 1 serving 30 mins PWO = 2 serving.

I also eat a decent breakfast (most days), lunch, and usually a pretty big dinner. Comments?

btw, I found a local supplement store 'Super Supplements' that sells the cyto gainer (6 lbs) for 34.65+tax = $37.73. That's better than ordering it online! So if you live around the Seattle metro area, give them a visit. They have a pretty good inventories of all types of supplements.

I take it 3 times a daily.

jcamp19
07-13-2007, 10:43 AM
Anyone try Revolutionary Technology Nutrition Bionic Edge Mass Builder?

Im thinking of giving it a try. Ingredients seems pretty sound

Check it out, let me know what you think


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/rtn/massbuilder.html

TheCrime91
07-13-2007, 11:10 AM
I had the best results with Weider Mega Mass 4000...

Endeavourer
07-15-2007, 09:03 AM
Body Science's Mass Monster

SkinnyGuy128
07-15-2007, 10:10 AM
By taking 3 half servings of Muscle Juice 2544 a day, I bulked up 15 lbs in a month. I tried chocolate, cookies n cream, & strawberry, and they all taste great.

I tried one flavor of Cytogainer, I think it's caramel (I should've tried a different flavor). The taste was so bland compared to the muscle juice's, I gave it away after trying it once.

Above Existence
07-15-2007, 03:10 PM
I have been keepin' my eye out for Muscle Juice 2544, I'm gonna give it a try.

gountilfailure0
07-15-2007, 03:14 PM
steak ...eggs .. chicken and oats

remix26
07-15-2007, 05:34 PM
need help deciding

-CytoGainer
-Real Gains
-Muscle Juice

not sure which to take. i like MJ because its cheap and gives more. i can spend some more though.

im also planning on taking sizeon so which should i take?

Twisted Kamelion
07-15-2007, 06:08 PM
I've tried cytogainer and realgains. As far as taste, I would have to say cytogainer. It cost the most though. It also has less sugar. Most effective to actually gain the weight I think is real gains.

remix26
07-15-2007, 06:14 PM
im sure all of these work its just i rather have something that wont add fat to me. some people say their bodyfat didnt change..i would like that then :) . probably means lower in sugar right ?

bernbabybern820
07-15-2007, 06:17 PM
need help deciding

-CytoGainer
-Real Gains
-Muscle Juice

not sure which to take. i like MJ because its cheap and gives more. i can spend some more though.

im also planning on taking sizeon so which should i take?

Postworkout wise Cytogainer. Before bed Real Gains would be better.

Above Existence
07-15-2007, 06:34 PM
I've been usin' Cytogainer for a few years now and it is effective. Now I'm gonna try some Muscle Juice and see how it is. As far as Muscle Juice goes, are those 1,000+calories with water or with milk?

hazin
07-16-2007, 07:38 AM
im sure all of these work its just i rather have something that wont add fat to me. some people say their bodyfat didnt change..i would like that then :) . probably means lower in sugar right ?

this is a good point. i am interested in purchasing cytogainer, but im already like 18% bodyfat (155lbs) and really dont want to add on much more bodyfat, but at the same time i want to gain mass/muscle

will taking cytogainer add extra body fat? also, is a bad idea to take weight gainers/creatine/protein while also taking fat burners?

macv_72
07-16-2007, 08:44 AM
Postworkout wise Cytogainer. Before bed Real Gains would be better.

Why Real Gains before bed? Just curious, I'm thinking to try it...

pimpalot805
07-16-2007, 09:13 AM
Why Real Gains before bed? Just curious, I'm thinking to try it...

I believe it's a whey/casein mix, casein is a slow-digesting protein, those are best before bed.

macv_72
07-16-2007, 09:18 AM
I believe it's a whey/casein mix, casein is a slow-digesting protein, those are best before bed.

That makes sense... thanks

Repped already.

Blue Blazer
07-16-2007, 09:35 PM
Last time I checked Cyto Gainer contained miscellar casein as well...

From what I've read Cyto Gainer contains whey isolates, concentrates and miscellar casein and so does Real Gains (can't remember everything, but I am pretty sure Cyto Gainer contains miscellar casein)

That aside, has anyone from canada purchased real gains inside the country?
I am asking this because the supps dealer/store I went to today told me that she couldn't order me any due to the fact that it isn't allowed in Canada...seems like bull**** to me, she was saying it contains 3 amino acids that aren't allowed in supps in Canada or something of that genre...one of the amino acids was L-Cartinine, anyone know what this is??

w3irdo
07-20-2007, 08:49 AM
I am finishing my first mass gainer which is ISS Gainer Matrix.
I bought the 8 lbs and till now, i only gained 3 kgs and i am a hard gainer.

I wondering why Cyto Gainer is so much more hot selling than ISS Gainer Matrix because gainer matrix contains more calories and protein than cyto gainer.
I am intending to try other brands and have cyto gainer in mind.

Any reason ?



Name Servings Calories Protein Carbs Fat
CytoSport Cyto Gainer,6 Lbs. 18 580 54 79 5
ISS Research Gainer Matrix,8 Lbs 20 690 60 103 4

swoll14
07-20-2007, 10:28 AM
wut up guys..... i tried real gains and ya it was good but im looking into this other stuff called serious mass. It sounds great and i was wondering if any1 has tried it or use it. and how it works. Its packed w/ calories and carbs! my type of stuff. take a look at whats it got.....

Calories 1250 N/A*

Calories From Fat 40 N/A*

Total Fat 4.5 Gm 7%

Saturated Fat 1.5 Gm 8%

Cholesterol 80 Mg 27%

Total Carbohydrate 252 Gm 84%

Dietary Fiber 4 Gm 16%

Sugars 20 Gm N/A*

Protein 50 Gm 100%

Vitamin A 5000 IU 100%

Vitamin C 60 Mg 100%

Vitamin D 200 IU 50%

Vitamin E 30 IU 100%

Thiamin 4.8 Mg 320%

Riboflavin 4 Mg 235%

Niacin 50 Mg 250%

Vitamin B6 5 Mg 250%

Folic Acid 400 Mcg 100%

Vitamin B12 10 Mcg 167%

Biotin 300 Mcg 100%

Pantothenic Acid 25 Mg 250%

Calcium 590 Mg 59%

Iron 8 Mg 44%

Phosphorus 430 Mg 43%

Iodine 150 Mcg 100%

Magnesium 140 Mcg 35%

Zinc 15 Mg 100%

Selenium 70 Mcg 100%

Copper 1.6 Mg 80%

Manganese 2 Mg 100%

Chromium 120 Mcg 100%

Molybdenum 75 Mcg 100%

Sodium 410 Mg 17%

Potassium 1560 Mg 45%

Creatine Monohydrate 1 Gm N/A*

L-Glutamine 500 Mg N/A*

Glutamine Peptide 500 Mg N/A*

Choline (As Cholina Bitartrate) 250 Mg N/A*

Inositol 250 Mg N/A*

PABA (PARA-AMEBENZOIC ACID) 5 Mg N/A*

So it looks good yeah?? and you get that extra gram of creatine!

what do you think of it or do u use it.

Tyler_Erwin
07-20-2007, 01:58 PM
The best weight gainer is:


Anything thats not Puremass 2200.

vasforhustlers
07-20-2007, 02:47 PM
I started lifting at about the weight of 145 and I'm up to 195 safely now...and I'm aiming to get to 210. I've tried a number of mass gainers and I'm just going to explain my experiences.

1st - Serious Mass - every sip felt like I was one slurp closer to a heart attack, it's like you could actually taste the cholesterol. It comes in a very inconvenient pouch and uses a scoop that is more suitable for shoveling dirt in your garden. It did put on a modest amount of fat weight and just a bit of muscle. It was overall disgusting. This gained me 5 pounds of fat all over my body.

2nd - N Large II - very good weight gain, this took me from 150 to 160, but took a very long time. The good thing is the weight gain didn't include as much fat as previously. The taste was rather bland, but it went down smoothly. I didn't feel like I was drinking a gainer, but rather a protein shake.

3rd - Ultimate Nutrition Muscle Juice - when I saw how much you can get for such a low price, I figured that I'd be a fool to pass this up. I found out that I was a fool for not getting it sooner. For the hardgainers this is a good launchpad, nothing to stick to. This product alone took me from 160 to 190. Although it is very fatty and has a lot of cholesterol, I didn't get the same fat gain as I did with Serious Mass. All I did was incorporate a bit of cardio into my workout and the gain stayed solid, not blubbery. The only drawback to this product is that it contains a lot of sugar calories and a lot of heavy calories period. The serving size is rather large so mentally prepare yourself for the amount of sugar you are about to drink. For the price though, it couldn't be beat...it was very effective for a novice gainer.

4th (current) - CytoSport CytoGainer - it is the #1 product for a reason. Although it does get pricey, it is worth it. After I hit 190 I plateaued and even fell back a bit. CytoGainer was about to put the weight back on me and keep it there...I don't worry about losing weight if I have an off day. The neat thing about this product is that it does contain creatine and glutamine and a bunch of other good stuff as well, so you're not really getting gipped on the price. It mixes easily and tastes pretty good.

Overall, in my opinion, the decision is based on your budget. If you want a quality gainer for cheap, get the Muscle Juice, if you have a little extra money, get the CytoGainer. Of course, you will get a better product with the more expensive one, but we aren't all rich...I was depressed when I had to shell out the extra bucks!

Chris

Ppk487
07-20-2007, 03:40 PM
i bought a tub of russian bear 5000, im gonna give it a shot. i eat constantly throughout the day and i have gained about 7 lbs in a month so far but my body still looks out of proportion since i got skinny arms and legs and a decent sized gut.

thehealthyboy
07-21-2007, 03:23 AM
well there are other factor that should be considered when talking about gainers other that calories and protein grams and carbs and that is serving size ..

take weider giant mega mass 4000 for example .. it's extremely strong that i gained about 15 pounds in 2 weeks .. but on the other hand it's serving size is 472 gram (almost 0.5 KG) which was too much that it made me really sick after every serving and it tastes bad with water so you must take it with milk .. and drinking too much milk would give you a nasty stomach ache .. so one of the main factors that i look at is the serving size ...

see in comparison that cyto gainer has 150g serving size and n-large 2 has 152 serving size which should be perfect .. but mega mass hass almost 2000 clories per serving while cyto gainer and n-large has about 600 calories

but again you see that cyto and n-large has about 50g of protein in each 150g of powder .. while mega mass has 82g of protein in each 472g of powder .. so it's really not easy to decide which one is the best


weider cyto n-large

serving 443g 150g 152g

calories 1650 600 600

protein 82g 54g 52g

sugar 150g 7g 28g

protein % 18.5 36 34.6


--------------------------------------------

daily value

weider cyto n-large

serving 443g 450g 456g

calories 1650 1800 1800

protein 82g 162g 156g

sugar 150g 21g 84g



these calculations are based on a daily dose of :

1 serving of giant mega mass

3 servings of cyto gainer

3 servings of n-large 2

Above Existence
07-21-2007, 04:36 PM
well there are other factor that should be considered when talking about gainers other that calories and protein grams and carbs and that is serving size ..

take weider giant mega mass 4000 for example .. it's extremely strong that i gained about 15 pounds in 2 weeks .. but on the other hand it's serving size is 472 gram (almost 0.5 KG) which was too much that it made me really sick after every serving and it tastes bad with water so you must take it with milk .. and drinking too much milk would give you a nasty stomach ache .. so one of the main factors that i look at is the serving size ...

see in comparison that cyto gainer has 150g serving size and n-large 2 has 152 serving size which should be perfect .. but mega mass hass almost 2000 clories per serving while cyto gainer and n-large has about 600 calories

but again you see that cyto and n-large has about 50g of protein in each 150g of powder .. while mega mass has 82g of protein in each 472g of powder .. so it's really not easy to decide which one is the best


weider cyto n-large

serving 443g 150g 152g

calories 1650 600 600

protein 82g 54g 52g

sugar 150g 7g 28g

protein % 18.5 36 34.6


--------------------------------------------

daily value

weider cyto n-large

serving 443g 450g 456g

calories 1650 1800 1800

protein 82g 162g 156g

sugar 150g 21g 84g



these calculations are based on a daily dose of :

1 serving of giant mega mass

3 servings of cyto gainer

3 servings of n-large 2

You got this old man very interested in givin' this a try.

thehealthyboy
07-21-2007, 05:10 PM
well don't forget to share your experience

TheJuicedchase
07-21-2007, 11:00 PM
CytoGainer and Realgains are my two personal favorites.

pu12en12g
07-22-2007, 06:32 AM
SAN Infusion
ErgoPharm MASS MEAL

CuT-uP
07-22-2007, 09:45 PM
why is cytogainer better than muscle juice? Muscle juice has more calories in it so it seems like it will put more weight on quicker.

mujeeb
07-23-2007, 01:44 AM
I started lifting at about the weight of 145 and I'm up to 195 safely now...and I'm aiming to get to 210. I've tried a number of mass gainers and I'm just going to explain my experiences.

1st - Serious Mass - every sip felt like I was one slurp closer to a heart attack, it's like you could actually taste the cholesterol. It comes in a very inconvenient pouch and uses a scoop that is more suitable for shoveling dirt in your garden. It did put on a modest amount of fat weight and just a bit of muscle. It was overall disgusting. This gained me 5 pounds of fat all over my body.

2nd - N Large II - very good weight gain, this took me from 150 to 160, but took a very long time. The good thing is the weight gain didn't include as much fat as previously. The taste was rather bland, but it went down smoothly. I didn't feel like I was drinking a gainer, but rather a protein shake.

3rd - Ultimate Nutrition Muscle Juice - when I saw how much you can get for such a low price, I figured that I'd be a fool to pass this up. I found out that I was a fool for not getting it sooner. For the hardgainers this is a good launchpad, nothing to stick to. This product alone took me from 160 to 190. Although it is very fatty and has a lot of cholesterol, I didn't get the same fat gain as I did with Serious Mass. All I did was incorporate a bit of cardio into my workout and the gain stayed solid, not blubbery. The only drawback to this product is that it contains a lot of sugar calories and a lot of heavy calories period. The serving size is rather large so mentally prepare yourself for the amount of sugar you are about to drink. For the price though, it couldn't be beat...it was very effective for a novice gainer.

4th (current) - CytoSport CytoGainer - it is the #1 product for a reason. Although it does get pricey, it is worth it. After I hit 190 I plateaued and even fell back a bit. CytoGainer was about to put the weight back on me and keep it there...I don't worry about losing weight if I have an off day. The neat thing about this product is that it does contain creatine and glutamine and a bunch of other good stuff as well, so you're not really getting gipped on the price. It mixes easily and tastes pretty good.

Overall, in my opinion, the decision is based on your budget. If you want a quality gainer for cheap, get the Muscle Juice, if you have a little extra money, get the CytoGainer. Of course, you will get a better product with the more expensive one, but we aren't all rich...I was depressed when I had to shell out the extra bucks!

Chris


All of this is not true. Here u see Y!

Cyto Gainer
Serving Size4Scoops(150g)
Calories 570
Servings Per Container: 8
Protein 54g
Total Carbohydrate 75g
Total Fat 6g 10%

PRICE 6 Lbs. $34.99

Here goes Serious Mass

Serious Mass
Container Size: 12 Lbs
Serving Size: 2 Heaping Scoops (334g)
Servings Per Container: 16
Calories 1250
Total Fat 4.5 g 7%
Total Carbohydrate 252 g 84%
Protein 50 g 100%

PRICE 12 Lbs. $34.99





NOW if you compare these points you will find that the serving size of Serious Mass is quite a mammoth. Which is two scoops = (334g).

So i would recommend 1 scoop which will make it (167g) approx and will still give 625 calories, 25 grams of protein (which is sufficient for one dose) and 125gms of Carbohydrate. at exactly half the price.

You can also see

Cyto Gainer has Total Fat 6g 10%

where as if you just take once scoop of Serious Mass it will make Total Fat (2.25 g) 3.5%.

The only place where Serious Mass losses out is protein ration but let me tell you that our body has certain limit while absorbing protein which is why it is better to take 25 gms of protein twice than 50 grams ones for better body absorption rates.

Destroya
07-23-2007, 12:35 PM
Someone told me that the best weight gainer, was Up Your Mass, he claimed it help him gain 70lbs. in a year, and i supose that that would be an average gain with that supplement!


In terms of gaining muscle that one has a great profile but is expensive but if it can truly digest it's proteins from 12 hours it should be top quality.

Alot of people talking about cytogainer and prop complex gainer must realise YES that may build more muslce but your not going to gain as much weight. Series mass really is the top on the line to gain weight and mass. Also mega mass 4000 is going to make you grow very fast.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/weid/mega.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/sm.html

These will help you gain mass and weight the fasted.

vasforhustlers
07-23-2007, 05:08 PM
All of this is not true. Here u see Y!

Cyto Gainer
Serving Size4Scoops(150g)
Calories 570
Servings Per Container: 8
Protein 54g
Total Carbohydrate 75g
Total Fat 6g 10%

PRICE 6 Lbs. $34.99

Here goes Serious Mass

Serious Mass
Container Size: 12 Lbs
Serving Size: 2 Heaping Scoops (334g)
Servings Per Container: 16
Calories 1250
Total Fat 4.5 g 7%
Total Carbohydrate 252 g 84%
Protein 50 g 100%

PRICE 12 Lbs. $34.99





NOW if you compare these points you will find that the serving size of Serious Mass is quite a mammoth. Which is two scoops = (334g).

So i would recommend 1 scoop which will make it (167g) approx and will still give 625 calories, 25 grams of protein (which is sufficient for one dose) and 125gms of Carbohydrate. at exactly half the price.

You can also see

Cyto Gainer has Total Fat 6g 10%

where as if you just take once scoop of Serious Mass it will make Total Fat (2.25 g) 3.5%.

The only place where Serious Mass losses out is protein ration but let me tell you that our body has certain limit while absorbing protein which is why it is better to take 25 gms of protein twice than 50 grams ones for better body absorption rates.

You're absolutely right...I just make sure to stick to the suggested serving size in order to get the suggested gains. Sounds like you're a Serious Mass fan here! Nothing wrong w/that at all...just didn't work out for me!

vasforhustlers
07-23-2007, 05:11 PM
why is cytogainer better than muscle juice? Muscle juice has more calories in it so it seems like it will put more weight on quicker.

I believe that they both hold their own weight (no pun intended), depending on what your goal is and how long you want to take to get there. You're totally correct that Muscle Juice will put more weight on quicker, AND cheaper! The bad thing is, a lot of that weight is of the undesired kind (which goes straight to my stomach). So if you're a smaller guy trying to reach a certain weight, really fast, use it! As soon as you get close to that desired weight, though, switch to CytoGainer or any gainer with less fat and cholesterol. That's just my opinion. I swear by the cheap Muscle Juice in order to gain fast.

Blue Blazer
07-23-2007, 09:28 PM
I'm 160 and take cyto gainer, should I go with muscle juice maybe to gain faster?

I'm doing the mark rippetoes program and with the perfect diet and training as instructed they say I can gain up to 30-40 lbs in 6 months

I want to be sure of this because I would love to be 200lbs by january-february...

So to gain fast should i go with muscle juice or even something that has even more calories?

mujeeb
07-23-2007, 09:51 PM
You're absolutely right...I just make sure to stick to the suggested serving size in order to get the suggested gains. Sounds like you're a Serious Mass fan here! Nothing wrong w/that at all...just didn't work out for me!

You can call me a Serious Mass Fan but that will not over shadow the fact that as per Supplement fact sheet Serious Mass is a cheap way to gain calories with less number of calories from fat as compared to Cryto.

Now if you look at gains let me tell all of us are not the same and our body might respond to one thing and neglect the other one.

So DUDE if you count your personal experience then I will have to agree that you should not go with Serious Mass and try Cryto for twice the price with less calories per serving.

emagehtetah
07-23-2007, 09:59 PM
When I first started lifting I was a skinny armed round belly love handle freshman in college. In 3 months I lost my belly (no 6 pack tho) and gained 15lbs of lean mass. People who hadnt seen me since high school were dam surprised. All I was taking was ON's Whey Protein and Prolabs N-Large. 2 protein shakes and 1 N-large split up into 2 shakes. That mixed with a sweet all you can eat cafeteria on campus and a 5-6 day/week workout program made it happen. Prolabs N-Large did awesome for me. And strawberry wasnt a bad flavor.

vasforhustlers
07-24-2007, 05:22 PM
You can call me a Serious Mass Fan but that will not over shadow the fact that as per Supplement fact sheet Serious Mass is a cheap way to gain calories with less number of calories from fat as compared to Cryto.

Now if you look at gains let me tell all of us are not the same and our body might respond to one thing and neglect the other one.

So DUDE if you count your personal experience then I will have to agree that you should not go with Serious Mass and try Cryto for twice the price with less calories per serving.

It's just how my body responds! Unfortunately, you're right...I have to take out a home equity line of credit just to stick to the CytoGainer!

Destroya
07-25-2007, 09:54 PM
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/tl/super.html

If you have the money this **** will make you gain fast.

! Tavares !
07-25-2007, 11:10 PM
Let's see, I think CytoSport Cytogainer is great. I've been using it for a while now, not trying to gain anymore really just trying to keep it on now. When I did use it for weight gaining it was crazy. I put on about 5lbs a week, seriously, if you take it like 3 times a day it's great results. I had to watch it because it was getting put on too fast. I'm in the army so I have to be able to run, so I can't put on too much weight too fast.

Blue Blazer
07-26-2007, 08:02 PM
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/tl/super.html

If you have the money this **** will make you gain fast.

This stuff seems EXTREMELY unhealthy if you ask me, 25 grams of saturated fats HOLY SH!T, but I am going to try it lol, I'm on rippetoes so I need to eat like crazy and train like a japanese beaver lol

While on rippetoes I think I am going to try Serious Mass, Twinlabs Super Gainer fuel pro, Muscle Juice and possibly weider. When I get to like 190-200 lbs, I will take Real Gains or Cyto Gainer and add in some cardio to burn a bit of fat but to stay constant...then I will cut and burn that unwanted fat and stay like that for awhile until I decided to bulk up again...

So IMO for fast gains you need to take: Serious Mass, Twinlab, Weider and I've taken PVL Mutant Mass in the past, 60 bucks cdn for 15 lbs...I gained 10 lbs with this stuff in a month and I never gained too much unwanted fat

So here's my list: (gainers for gaining quickly)
1. Serious Mass
2. Muscle Juice
3. Twinlab
4. Weider
5. Mutant Mass

Z. Peloso
07-29-2007, 02:47 PM
BSN's true mass?

Blue Blazer
07-29-2007, 02:56 PM
I bought nutrabolics iso mass today and to me it seems pretty damn good

Total Calories 691
Calories from fat 99
Total fat 11g 5%
Saturated fat 2g 12%
Cholesterol 90mg 30%
Sodium 90mg 3%
Potassium 285mg 9%
Total carbohydrates 88g 29%
Dietary fiber 3g 6%
Sugars 12.5g
Protein 60g 120%
Calcium 390mg 39%
Iron 3mg 17%
Magnesium 30mg 8%

Something like Cyto Gainer except a little higher

ibanezmonster
07-29-2007, 02:59 PM
This stuff seems EXTREMELY unhealthy if you ask me, 25 grams of saturated fats HOLY SH!T, but I am going to try it lol, I'm on rippetoes so I need to eat like crazy and train like a japanese beaver lol

While on rippetoes I think I am going to try Serious Mass, Twinlabs Super Gainer fuel pro, Muscle Juice and possibly weider. When I get to like 190-200 lbs, I will take Real Gains or Cyto Gainer and add in some cardio to burn a bit of fat but to stay constant...then I will cut and burn that unwanted fat and stay like that for awhile until I decided to bulk up again...

So IMO for fast gains you need to take: Serious Mass, Twinlab, Weider and I've taken PVL Mutant Mass in the past, 60 bucks cdn for 15 lbs...I gained 10 lbs with this stuff in a month and I never gained too much unwanted fat

So here's my list: (gainers for gaining quickly)
1. Serious Mass
2. Muscle Juice
3. Twinlab
4. Weider
5. Mutant Mass
that says 10.3 lbs for $41
how long does that usually last?

NaturalMsO
07-29-2007, 03:15 PM
Best weight gainer: REAL FOOD.

Real food that has quality nutrients and is packed full of vitamins and minerals. No fake, synthesized, junky powder weight gainer in the world can compare to real food.

Get your macros in check and eat right. You won't have any use for commercial weight gainers.

Above Existence
07-30-2007, 08:56 AM
Alot of people think that "weight gainers will work on their own, only to find out thats FALSE. EAT, lift heavy, and use a weightgainer and witness how much weight you'll gain!

w3irdo
07-30-2007, 09:06 AM
just bought muscle juice : cookie and cream.

really regret. it is simply too sweet for a supplement. it is like 3 times sweeter than any soft drinks such as coke. i will have trouble finishing the whole 10 lbs. and beforehand i hate sweet stuff. Din expect the 55g sugar content will make it so sweet even though knowing it has high sugar.

result wise, still cant determine as i just started 2 days

Super Mario
07-31-2007, 09:19 AM
Well... I have been lazy this last week and gained some fat...
But the truth is that since I started taking cytogainer I gained 18 pounds... and it was about 2 months ago, I think. And the muscle is the muscle.
Last week I did get some fat, cause I haven?t been doing much excercise...

The thing about Cytogainer is that it is quit expensive...
I bought 3 big tubs and have em in the closet.
Also bought Whey Protein from Cytosport...

It is not that good.
It is only 17g per serving.
Tried to put two scoops to double the amount of protein.
I felt sick all day long. So I can only take one serving per time.
At the same time, I take the Cytogainer only on workout days. Only one serving 15 minutes after the workout. I mean, workout, shower, shake.
I take a serving of protein 20 minutes pre workout, but the Gainer is amazingly expensive. What is better than Cytogainer, (contains Glutamine and Creatine) and is cheaper... I have been thinking about changing to cheaper one. I am 197 lbs now.

SteveCNY
07-31-2007, 10:21 AM
cytogainer and complete whey are relatively cheap. 5lb tubs for under $30. cant beat that

Above Existence
07-31-2007, 05:14 PM
cytogainer and complete whey are relatively cheap. 5lb tubs for under $30. cant beat that

VERY true!

thenoseman
08-01-2007, 12:59 AM
why the hell would some one take a gainer that has 100 grams of protein per serveing? none of it is from casein!!!! can some one answer that question for me?

SteveCNY
08-01-2007, 06:05 AM
why the hell would some one take a gainer that has 100 grams of protein per serveing? none of it is from casein!!!! can some one answer that question for me?
100grams of protein is a waste, period. regardless of it being casein, whey or collagen.

Blue Blazer
08-01-2007, 07:17 AM
100grams of protein is a waste, period. regardless of it being casein, whey or collagen.

If you are referring to the twinlab gainer, I agree with you on the 100 grams of protein being a waste, but if I had that gainer I would take half of the serving a day....so then I would get 50 grams from the gainer per day

Edit: I don't take this gainer and do not plan on taking it neither, at the time I am taking Nutrabolics Iso-Gainer, pretty good

SteveCNY
08-01-2007, 08:21 AM
If you are referring to the twinlab gainer, I agree with you on the 100 grams of protein being a waste, but if I had that gainer I would take half of the serving a day....so then I would get 50 grams from the gainer per day

Edit: I don't take this gainer and do not plan on taking it neither, at the time I am taking Nutrabolics Iso-Gainer, pretty good
i wasnt referring to any product specifically, i was just saying in general.

1992camaro
08-01-2007, 05:00 PM
I like mhp up your mass its good i got some good gains from it other weight gainers have to much suger and fat...

teraflx
08-01-2007, 07:38 PM
I dont like anything GNC but I had some luck with their Mass XXX. Tasted great and mixed with milk had about 800-900 calories and 55-60g's of protein.

Blue Blazer
08-01-2007, 07:45 PM
I like mhp up your mass its good i got some good gains from it other weight gainers have to much suger and fat...

Sounds like your saying up your mass is the only good gainer out there, and if that's what you are saying I disagree with you right away there lol

Cyto Gainer by Cytosport
Iso-Gainer by Nutrabolics
Real Gains by Universal
N large 2 (except high in sugar)

these 4 are probobly the best gainers if you want something that is low sugars and fats, but alot of guys need something with more carbs and more fats...

As for gainers with loaded with sugars, carbs and fats:
-Muscle Juice
-Serious Mass
-Quick Mass
-Mutant Mass
-Twinlabs super fuel gainer (that one seems unsafe imo, 1800 cals, very high)

I prefer a gainer that is more clean but if I had to take something a little more dirty, I would go with Muscle Juice and I would give Serious Mass a try

AMERICAZHUSTLA
08-01-2007, 08:29 PM
i use ultimate nutritions muscle juice

with skim milk you get 71 grams of protein per serving and 1300 calories this is also probably the best tasting weight gainer/protein i have ever used (vanilla) and it mixes well also a great price for 10 pounds of the stuff.

bit
08-02-2007, 03:48 AM
so i see a lot about how great ON's "pro complex gainer" is, but i can't find it here in australia, but i do find lots of ON's "Gainer". I've been looking for a detailed ingredients list but all I find is the basics, protein, fat, etc. Can anybody tell me the difference and whether on gainer is worth it. i was using cytogainer which was great, gained good size and tasted great, but since i moved to oz i can't get it anymore. thanks.

1992camaro
08-02-2007, 09:42 AM
Sounds like your saying up your mass is the only good gainer out there, and if that's what you are saying I disagree with you right away there lol

Cyto Gainer by Cytosport
Iso-Gainer by Nutrabolics
Real Gains by Universal
N large 2 (except high in sugar)

these 4 are probobly the best gainers if you want something that is low sugars and fats, but alot of guys need something with more carbs and more fats...

As for gainers with loaded with sugars, carbs and fats:
-Muscle Juice
-Serious Mass
-Quick Mass
-Mutant Mass
-Twinlabs super fuel gainer (that one seems unsafe imo, 1800 cals, very high)

I prefer a gainer that is more clean but if I had to take something a little more dirty, I would go with Muscle Juice and I would give Serious Mass a try




im not saying its the best but its the only one that i like i got good gains from it..

Ppk487
08-02-2007, 02:17 PM
finished russian bear 5000, gained me a few lbs, too sweet though. i moved to mass tech, wish i never did. it is GROSS, its like drinking mud. ew. i need a good weight gainer, and i checked out cytogainer, doesnt look that appealing to me. what is something with a lot of cals and protein for a good price?

kskwerl
08-02-2007, 02:20 PM
finished russian bear 5000, gained me a few lbs, too sweet though. i moved to mass tech, wish i never did. it is GROSS, its like drinking mud. ew. i need a good weight gainer, and i checked out cytogainer, doesnt look that appealing to me. what is something with a lot of cals and protein for a good price?

Yea that sounds nasty, and I tried cytogainer it's damn gay plus it taste horrible. Optimum Nutrition's ProComplex Gainer has something like 1650 cals and 60 grams of protein and it taste damn good. I also see your doing Rippetoe's. How long have you been doing that for, I did that porgram for a while so if you got any questions feel free to ask.

Ppk487
08-02-2007, 02:29 PM
i've been on it for a month after tomorrows workout. i kicked up my diet and i get a lot of food in as much as i can and if i cant eat when im at work i drink RTD shakes or eata lot of peanut butter sandwiches and chunkys cambell soup on the go. i'm looking for a great weight gainer to help me get in some extra calories and id like to bulk to about 195 around february.

William Ray II
08-02-2007, 03:18 PM
I used mammoth for a while and it does work quite well.

N-Large worked well for me too.

Universal Rep
08-03-2007, 09:37 AM
Most effective to actually gain the weight I think is real gains.

Thanks bro. For anyone interested, free samples of Real Gains available here:

http://universalnutrition.com/sample/index.cfm

Real Gains uses premium proteins in the form of micellar casein (not caseinates) & whey isolates. Low in sugar too. For those who don't like chocolate, vanilla or strawberry, we're launching the brand new Banana Milkshake this month.

skierdude1000
08-04-2007, 07:06 PM
Thanks bro. For anyone interested, free samples of Real Gains available here:

http://universalnutrition.com/sample/index.cfm

Real Gains uses premium proteins in the form of micellar casein (not caseinates) & whey isolates. Low in sugar too. For those who don't like chocolate, vanilla or strawberry, we're launching the brand new Banana Milkshake this month.

I wrote ya'll an e-mail and got no response.

Tried to PM you and your inbox was full.

Submitted and hopefully you can send some over so I can give it a try. Been using Cytosport, but want to try you guys. Seems like you give the same product, but cheaper. Although Universal lacks the creatine in Cyto.

fates_child03
08-04-2007, 08:16 PM
I like Universal's Real Gains best. The chocolate is awesome. I cant wait for their new banana flavor to come out I'm going to mix it with the chocolate lol.

Danzavier
08-06-2007, 07:57 PM
Yea that sounds nasty, and I tried cytogainer it's damn gay plus it taste horrible. Optimum Nutrition's ProComplex Gainer has something like 1650 cals and 60 grams of protein and it taste damn good. I also see your doing Rippetoe's. How long have you been doing that for, I did that porgram for a while so if you got any questions feel free to ask.

Did you try the chocalate malt cytogainer...tastes just like chocalate milk. havent tasted nothing better.

InsanePain11
08-06-2007, 08:01 PM
Cytogainer helped me add some lean mass along with a good diet.

bernbabybern820
08-06-2007, 08:38 PM
I wrote ya'll an e-mail and got no response.

Tried to PM you and your inbox was full.

Submitted and hopefully you can send some over so I can give it a try. Been using Cytosport, but want to try you guys. Seems like you give the same product, but cheaper. Although Universal lacks the creatine in Cyto.

I didnt get a response but it was sent to me.

phuz
08-07-2007, 04:28 AM
just bought muscle juice : cookie and cream.

really regret. it is simply too sweet for a supplement. it is like 3 times sweeter than any soft drinks such as coke. i will have trouble finishing the whole 10 lbs. and beforehand i hate sweet stuff. Din expect the 55g sugar content will make it so sweet even though knowing it has high sugar.

result wise, still cant determine as i just started 2 days

get the plain chocolate flavor...its much better.
i use this stuff for my morning shakes (1/2 serving each time) because mixed with a tbsp. peanut butter, milk, and banana, its still an 800 calorie shake at 1/2 serving.

bsessums21
08-08-2007, 06:03 AM
muscle juice is real good. it mixes well and it is high in calories

PLUS ITS CHEAP!

User6763672
08-10-2007, 03:51 PM
I'm an ecto..and used Cytogainer, BSN's True Mass, Champion Heavyweight. I've found that BSN helped a lot ...along with Cytogainer, but Champion..I can't remember much because I used it a longggggggg time ago, but I'm pretty sure it helped as well (900 cals). Cytogainer's taste isn't as great as BSN's True Mass, but Cyto made me feel like I gained more strength, rather then Mass. My next purchase will be Weider Giant Mega Mass 4000 or Optimum Serious Mass. They both seem like great products!

Digital XO
08-10-2007, 04:53 PM
I have tried CytoGainer. It worked fantastic with a nice diet. Even friends noticed results after I'd finished up on the 6lbs tub. The weight was significant and it managed to stay on. Usually, I tend to lose weight easily.

I also wanted to give real gains a try so I have decided to purchase 6.8 pounds of real gains AND another 6 pounds CytoGainer TODAY! (saved on shipping cost by ordering both at the same time).

I was looking at muscle juice since the price seems nice and decent results have been reported, however, I think it's packed with sugar and I can't handle lots of sugar. I keep it out of my diet as best as I can.

I do have a question though, I don't have much fat at all. I'm 5'8 and 135 (sort of thin) so using gainers that will add a little fat is not a problem to me. I'd like to keep it pure as possible though, meaning I want to stay away from sugars and fructose crap.

Any suggestions for someone not so concerned about fat? My body burns it off pretty easily. I'd just stick with cytogainer since I know first hand it works and is low in sugar but it's too expensive to keep using continuously.

Xscorpio
08-13-2007, 10:31 AM
mass meal, great taste, quality ingredients and very less in cholesterol levels etc nothing but quality.

cytogainer is my 2nd choice.

mujeeb
08-13-2007, 03:49 PM
I cannot comment much over weight gainers as my only experience with any weight gainers would be just On?s Serious Mass.

Let me tell you that I have already emptied 1 ?6 lbs? and 2 ?12 lbs? of the serious mass. I have gained few pounds using it but the result was not that good when I used the third time. I have head a lot about cyto gainer so ordered 2 ?6 lbs? jar and 1 Mass Meal from BB.com. I haven?t used it as of now. I will keep you guys updated about the results still if you look at the supplement fact sheet you will find serious mass delivers more calories and is cheaper option than other gainers (keep in mind just take one scoop approx 132 grams unlike the suggested 2 scoop servings).

mujeeb
08-13-2007, 03:59 PM
mass meal, great taste, quality ingredients and very less in cholesterol levels etc nothing but quality.

cytogainer is my 2nd choice.

Do you have any comments about ON's Serious MAss?

Hardgainer2000
08-14-2007, 10:24 PM
Which is better cytogainer or muscle milk collegiate?

Sv87guS
08-18-2007, 10:21 AM
Im doing a very clean bulk, and i ordered 2 tubs universal realsgains. I hope it doesnt make me gain a bunch of fat im looking for muscle.

zkid002
08-18-2007, 10:45 AM
Which is better cytogainer or muscle milk collegiate?

Cytogainer is the way to go for a WEIGHT GAINER. Go for it.

vasforhustlers
08-18-2007, 12:09 PM
Maaan...I was arguing with you about the great CytoGainer...I guess the advertising, taste, and ease of mixability fooled my feeble mind. This mess sucks!

I even consumed more of it than with previous gainers, and I LOST WEIGHT!!! I don't know how that happened! I didn't lose anything drastic, but I definitely didn't gain. I am switching back to my cheap ol Muscle Juice ASAP...had to let MUJEEB know that he won this one lolololol...

CytoGainer is a good product and everything but it's not going to cut it for me.

YoungGunz15
08-18-2007, 12:33 PM
I like BSN's TrueMass. Ive just started using it a week and a half ago so i cant tell how its going to hold up in the long run but ive seeing o.k. results so far.

Gravik
08-18-2007, 01:11 PM
American Bodybuilding's Extreme XXL

low in fat and sugar
good ammount of protein
high carbs

the perfect gainer for an ectomorph like myself :)

DbK_o6
08-19-2007, 05:57 AM
serious mass gained about 7kgs in just over 6 weeks
minimum fat and ALOT of mass

Xscorpio
08-19-2007, 07:08 AM
Do you have any comments about ON's Serious MAss?

sorry for the late reply, but no i have not tried ON's Serious Mass.

Lloyd Braun
08-19-2007, 08:27 AM
American Bodybuilding's Extreme XXL

low in fat and sugar
good ammount of protein
high carbs

the perfect gainer for an ectomorph like myself :)

Good product. Thus far I have used ON's Serious Mass and Weider's Mega Mass 4000, both of which are (IMHO) inferior to ABB XXL. Everytime I have used XXL I have kept the weight on, which I can't really say about the either two. I haven't really gained much using either two as well. I would definitely recommend it, in fact I'm about to buy another tub myself. :)

bernbabybern820
08-19-2007, 09:16 AM
Maaan...I was arguing with you about the great CytoGainer...I guess the advertising, taste, and ease of mixability fooled my feeble mind. This mess sucks!

I even consumed more of it than with previous gainers, and I LOST WEIGHT!!! I don't know how that happened! I didn't lose anything drastic, but I definitely didn't gain. I am switching back to my cheap ol Muscle Juice ASAP...had to let MUJEEB know that he won this one lolololol...

CytoGainer is a good product and everything but it's not going to cut it for me.

Are you kidding me? You do realize its your WHOLE DIET that determines if you lose or gain weight right? This is for everyone. All weight gainers do is give you extra protein and calories to help you gain weight.

Remember you have to taking in more calories than you lose to gain weight.
If you lose more calories than you take in then you lose weight.

Gravik
08-19-2007, 10:48 AM
Good product. Thus far I have used ON's Serious Mass and Weider's Mega Mass 4000, both of which are (IMHO) inferior to ABB XXL. Everytime I have used XXL I have kept the weight on, which I can't really say about the either two. I haven't really gained much using either two as well. I would definitely recommend it, in fact I'm about to buy another tub myself. :)

yep. Overall it's on of the best weight gainers.

High in calories (over 1,000), protein and carbs, and low in sugar(17 grams of sugar) and fat(only 4 grams).

and only problem with the WEIDER's one is it has over 100 grams of sugar

vasforhustlers
08-19-2007, 11:55 AM
Are you kidding me? You do realize its your WHOLE DIET that determines if you lose or gain weight right? This is for everyone. All weight gainers do is give you extra protein and calories to help you gain weight.

Remember you have to taking in more calories than you lose to gain weight.
If you lose more calories than you take in then you lose weight.

No, I'm not kidding you! I understand the whole diet concept, and the purpose of weight gainers...otherwise, I wouldn't have purchased one.

The assumption is that I left my diet unchanged. Before CytoGainer, I used Muscle Juice with a high calorie diet and gained a lot. I switched CytoGainer for Muscle Juice (meaning that I was using CytoGainer) with the same exact diet and ended up losing weight.

NaturalMsO
08-19-2007, 06:04 PM
Funny thing ... I've tried most of the products mentioned in this thread. And you know what? REAL food works better. :)

Sv87guS
08-22-2007, 06:25 PM
Funny thing ... I've tried most of the products mentioned in this thread. And you know what? REAL food works better. :)

everyone should know that but a postworkout weight gainer helps if you already have a solid diet. Im using to flood my system with protein complex carbs and all that good stuff postworkout. Universal Real Gains, just got it dont know how it works yet, doing a clean bulk, anyone let me know if this you have had gfood results, ive got two months worth, but am doin a 3-4 month clean bulk, so mite order more.

Eat Sleep Train
08-23-2007, 11:26 AM
Cytosport's Cytogainer helped me gain 15lbs in a short period of time. Out of all the other weight gainers theirs is the only one where I have made significant gains. Plus the cookies and cream flavor taste like cookies and cream

selfinflicted
08-23-2007, 12:36 PM
Cytogainer by Cytosport. Best bang for the buck and taste the best. Rather than buying a tub of protein, creatine and glutamine, you get it all under one lid!

lil_chubz10
08-23-2007, 03:45 PM
BSN's Truemass is all I use and the gains are really fast. It taste better if you mix it with milk instead of water.

NaturalMsO
08-23-2007, 05:50 PM
everyone should know that but a postworkout weight gainer helps if you already have a solid diet. Im using to flood my system with protein complex carbs and all that good stuff postworkout. Universal Real Gains, just got it dont know how it works yet, doing a clean bulk, anyone let me know if this you have had gfood results, ive got two months worth, but am doin a 3-4 month clean bulk, so mite order more.

Absolutely. Yes, everyone SHOULD know ... but not everyone does, unfortunately. I'm sure you've seen it: Skinny guys coming into the supplement store and buying enormous jugs of weight gainer ... you ask him what he eats and his diet is crap. Nothing wrong with adding a little weight gainer to an already solid diet (but more than not, the diet is NOT solid and the weight gainer is used to replace real food). That's all I was saying. But, hopefully, everyone here already knows that. ;)

P.S. If it helps any, I used to use weight gainers. Then I realized that, like most supplements, they are a huge marketing scam that nets millions in profit. So I thought, OK, I'm going to trying adding a little more REAL food to my diet and see what happens. And what happened was: I GREW. :)

No Can Do
08-23-2007, 05:54 PM
Okay... just picked up a jug of Cyto Gainer. Chocolate Mint Shake. Best tasting anything I've tried, and for a weight gainer...

I'll see how the gains go.

V.H.9.8.4.
08-24-2007, 12:39 PM
What do you guys think of Dymatize High Protein Mega Gainer, taste, mixability, profile, etc.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dym/hpgainer.html

zkid002
08-24-2007, 02:04 PM
What do you guys think of Dymatize High Protein Mega Gainer, taste, mixability, profile, etc.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dym/hpgainer.html

WOW!!...Never even heard of that gainer before!..the ingredient profile looks great/solid, from my standpoint. Hell, I might even give this a gainer a try with my next paycheck!

V.H.9.8.4.
08-24-2007, 02:09 PM
WOW!!...Never even heard of that gainer before!..the ingredient profile looks great/solid, from my standpoint. Hell, I might even give this a gainer a try with my next paycheck!
k thanks for the input. Has anyone used this product and like to share their expierence with it

Blue Blazer
08-24-2007, 10:41 PM
yeah I saw this gainer when I was in Ottawa...seemed like an awesome gainer to me

Here's to one I've been taking for about 3 weeks: Nutrabolics Iso-Gainer
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nbol/gain.html

Seemed like it was worth a try with 700 cals, 60 grams of protein, 11 grams of fat and 88 grams of carbs...so far I think I gained 3-4 lbs with it....which is all I wanted to gain really (I was 160, dropped to 155, now roughly 158-159...looking to get to 160 minimum by september)

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Iso-Gainer aside here, I am thinking about buying Muscle Juice...I read on one site that there's 162 grams of sugars...and I read on another site it was 62 grams of sugar...162 seems VERY HIGH and unlikely...

I am on the Rippetoes strength/mass program/diet right now and I was thinking about taking "bigger" gainers...muscle juice seemed to be a good one...

Anyone recommend it? Or should I try the Dymatize gainer or even go back to Cyto Gainer...

Any suggestions? Thanks alot, JM

V.H.9.8.4.
08-25-2007, 03:35 AM
yea i was thinkin of trying muscle juice too, and feel free if you want, but there was too much sugar for me, 62g, and i heard it was very very sweet and didnt taste good. Other than that is seemed good. I liked that the dymarize had the added creatine, BCAA's, glutamine, and fatty acids, and wasnt too expensive, although muscle juices is cheaper

One questoin though, creatines is usually taken PWO with whey. The dymatize is a blend so when do you recommend taking it, as blends are not as effiecient PWO

zkid002
08-25-2007, 07:42 AM
yeah I saw this gainer when I was in Ottawa...seemed like an awesome gainer to me

Here's to one I've been taking for about 3 weeks: Nutrabolics Iso-Gainer
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nbol/gain.html

Seemed like it was worth a try with 700 cals, 60 grams of protein, 11 grams of fat and 88 grams of carbs...so far I think I gained 3-4 lbs with it....which is all I wanted to gain really (I was 160, dropped to 155, now roughly 158-159...looking to get to 160 minimum by september)

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Iso-Gainer aside here, I am thinking about buying Muscle Juice...I read on one site that there's 162 grams of sugars...and I read on another site it was 62 grams of sugar...162 seems VERY HIGH and unlikely...

I am on the Rippetoes strength/mass program/diet right now and I was thinking about taking "bigger" gainers...muscle juice seemed to be a good one...

Anyone recommend it? Or should I try the Dymatize gainer or even go back to Cyto Gainer...

Any suggestions? Thanks alot, JM

The one your using actually looks very solid to me!..never seen it b4, how does it taste?..

Blue Blazer
08-25-2007, 04:20 PM
The one your using actually looks very solid to me!..never seen it b4, how does it taste?..

Well I have Vanilla Cinnamon right now....it goes down easy but it tastes AWFUL...seriously worst flavor I have ever tried...but like I said it goes down easy, so I just block my nose and jug it down (usally what i do with all my gainers lol...all the gainers I've had tasted terrible)

Anyone recommend serious mass? Seems a bit too high in carbs.....I'm 160lbs and 15 yrs old....this a good gainer for me?

zkid002
08-25-2007, 08:31 PM
Well I have Vanilla Cinnamon right now....it goes down easy but it tastes AWFUL...seriously worst flavor I have ever tried...but like I said it goes down easy, so I just block my nose and jug it down (usally what i do with all my gainers lol...all the gainers I've had tasted terrible)

Anyone recommend serious mass? Seems a bit too high in carbs.....I'm 160lbs and 15 yrs old....this a good gainer for me?

you should definately enjoy the gainer that your using, so I hope you ditch the one your using right now. You should at least enjoy the taste of the excess 600-1,000 extra calories you put in your body!! ..Hell if I took a weight gainer,(prob will soon).Id make sure its amazing taste!!..enjoy those calories...

Blue Blazer
08-25-2007, 08:41 PM
you should definately enjoy the gainer that your using, so I hope you ditch the one your using right now. You should at least enjoy the taste of the excess 600-1,000 extra calories you put in your body!! ..Hell if I took a weight gainer,(prob will soon).Id make sure its amazing taste!!..enjoy those calories...

Good luck finding an amazing tasting gainer...they aren't the easiest things to find lol...

I do suggest you take a gainer...it will help you out on some mass..I noticed you are only 112lbs so I suggest you pick one up...it will help you gain the weight you WANT to put on...

JM

zkid002
08-25-2007, 08:46 PM
Good luck finding an amazing tasting gainer...they aren't the easiest things to find lol...

I do suggest you take a gainer...it will help you out on some mass..I noticed you are only 112lbs so I suggest you pick one up...it will help you gain the weight you WANT to put on...

JM

True, I could see why you would say that, but I ENJOY eating foods. Like, I believe that if I want to gain weight, I should eat "food", not a drink that will go down in 3 second, and be over 700 cals!..id rather sit down, and eat a bigg meal!..and enjoy the food, and have it be whole food. And for the good tasting gainers, I know some off the bat!..CYTOGAINER, is great tasting for a gainer, and so is Universal Real Gains. Go for it, try it out bud.

skinny ee
08-25-2007, 08:49 PM
Thanks bro. For anyone interested, free samples of Real Gains available here:

http://universalnutrition.com/sample/index.cfm

Real Gains uses premium proteins in the form of micellar casein (not caseinates) & whey isolates. Low in sugar too. For those who don't like chocolate, vanilla or strawberry, we're launching the brand new Banana Milkshake this month.just got some free samples in the the mail i will see how it goes.

Blue Blazer
08-25-2007, 08:50 PM
True, I could see why you would say that, but I ENJOY eating foods. Like, I believe that if I want to gain weight, I should eat "food", not a drink that will go down in 3 second, and be over 700 cals!..id rather sit down, and eat a bigg meal!..and enjoy the food, and have it be whole food. And for the good tasting gainers, I know some off the bat!..CYTOGAINER, is great tasting for a gainer, and so is Universal Real Gains. Go for it, try it out bud.

No doubt food is what coutns for gaining weight....the gainer is just that little extra...

BTW, I've had cytogainer chocolate caramel swirl....it should be called chocolate caramel that'll make you hurl...lol

As for real gains...one of the Universal reps said he couldn't recommend it because their products are intended for 18+year olds...

JM

zkid002
08-26-2007, 07:14 AM
just got some free samples in the the mail i will see how it goes.

Were the samples you got from the link on the universal site?..what did they give you(how much stuff)?..and what flavors?..

jmurphy22
08-26-2007, 07:45 AM
just got some free samples in the the mail i will see how it goes.

cool let us know. i was looking into price for a large bulk and real gains seems to offer that. how was taste/mix?

skinny ee
08-26-2007, 07:48 AM
Were the samples you got from the link on the universal site?..what did they give you(how much stuff)?..and what flavors?..the samples were from the link in my post. they sent me 3 packs 39 grams each. 3 diffirent flavors choclate,strawberry, vanilla ice cream.

Mikesriped
08-26-2007, 08:28 AM
While I`m bulking, witch is now, I like Muscle Juice, I think it tastes good.
I have been putting on some real serious mass with it ,But there is a lot of sugar in it so I just take it P/W, 4 scoops M/J 1 tsp natural P/B 1 Banana and 450mls H2O. I just finished a 13.5lb tub of chocolate and I did`nt get tired of it. I just ordered cookies and cream I`ll see how that one tastes.

V.H.9.8.4.
08-26-2007, 09:10 AM
I would still like to know how dymatize hugh protein mega gainer taste, anyone who has used this, please post their opinion

zkid002
08-26-2007, 09:42 AM
the samples were from the link in my post. they sent me 3 packs 39 grams each. 3 diffirent flavors choclate,strawberry, vanilla ice cream.

Im very interested in Real Gains, so please post how it tastes, and how you liked it!..thanks..

Sv87guS
08-26-2007, 07:25 PM
cool let us know. i was looking into price for a large bulk and real gains seems to offer that. how was taste/mix?

ive gota a couple tubs of it it actually mixes really well i mixed it in a shaker bottle, and it tasted pretty damn good with water. i have the chocolate ice cream, it wasnt clupmy or really thick either.

teraflx
08-26-2007, 07:41 PM
Im very interested in Real Gains, so please post how it tastes, and how you liked it!..thanks..

I didnt think it was that great, I had the vanilla one. It wasnt bad but definatly wasnt as good as some others Ive tried. Too bad too cause I love Universal products!

zkid002
08-27-2007, 06:48 PM
So what is the BEST Flavor of CYTOGAINER!?..Come on, all you cytogainer fans!..its the most commonly used gainer..lets hear the best flavors, cuz I might be buyin it soon!..

Blue Blazer
08-27-2007, 11:16 PM
So what is the BEST Flavor of CYTOGAINER!?..Come on, all you cytogainer fans!..its the most commonly used gainer..lets hear the best flavors, cuz I might be buyin it soon!..

I can tell you Chocolate Caramel Swirl tasted bad...I think I would enjoy chocolate mint shake and maybe rocky road, the vanilla shake probobly goes down easy too...But just my opinion

Danzavier
08-28-2007, 12:00 AM
So what is the BEST Flavor of CYTOGAINER!?..Come on, all you cytogainer fans!..its the most commonly used gainer..lets hear the best flavors, cuz I might be buyin it soon!..


Chocalate malt bro..its like a friggin milkshake or chocalate milk...what more could you ask for.

mujeeb
08-28-2007, 01:11 AM
Chocalate malt bro..its like a friggin milkshake or chocalate milk...what more could you ask for.

Btw i just tried the choco malt flavor once but it was not az gud az serious mass choco flavor. What do others have to say about cyto chocolate and serious mass chocolate comparison?
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zoeba
08-28-2007, 02:38 AM
Cytogainer is the bomb and Chocolate Malt is the SHIZZZZZNIT

ive used just 1 6lb of cytogainer and went up 9lbs.. after seein my midway results i bought 3 more... and hey.. i pay double the price for it..since i order from india.. IT IS THE BEST.. THE BEST .. once again... THE BEST

mujeeb
08-28-2007, 02:45 AM
Cytogainer is the bomb and Chocolate Malt is the SHIZZZZZNIT

ive used just 1 6lb of cytogainer and went up 9lbs.. after seein my midway results i bought 3 more... and hey.. i pay double the price for it..since i order from india.. IT IS THE BEST.. THE BEST .. once again... THE BEST

Where did u get it frm and for how much i also live in mumbai India.

zkid002
08-28-2007, 02:57 PM
I can tell you Chocolate Caramel Swirl tasted bad...I think I would enjoy chocolate mint shake and maybe rocky road, the vanilla shake probobly goes down easy too...But just my opinion

thanks for the carmel swirl opinion, It sounds nice, so i was goona go for it, but i guess they couldnt pull it off...


Chocalate malt bro..its like a friggin milkshake or chocalate milk...what more could you ask for.

thanks, will prob end up goin for this flavor!

Cytogainer is the bomb and Chocolate Malt is the SHIZZZZZNIT

ive used just 1 6lb of cytogainer and went up 9lbs.. after seein my midway results i bought 3 more... and hey.. i pay double the price for it..since i order from india.. IT IS THE BEST.. THE BEST .. once again... THE BEST

Im going for the choco malt!..thanks for the opinion man.

builder121
08-28-2007, 03:03 PM
Mammoth is the best in my opinion!

Kiddenvy
08-28-2007, 03:11 PM
Has anyone gone threw a full cycle of up your mass by MHP? I was taking Turee mass by BSN and i thought it was good stuff, just didnt see the gains i wanted. So i just bought Up your mass and its so chalky! If it provides gains ill choke it down otherwise im gonna take it back.

zkid002
08-28-2007, 04:29 PM
So I was reading through Cytogainer's ingredients, and I see it says creatine monohydrate....why does it not state the creatine, and how much grams on the nutrition facts!?...how much creatine is it?

Blue Blazer
08-29-2007, 01:08 AM
So I was reading through Cytogainer's ingredients, and I see it says creatine monohydrate....why does it not state the creatine, and how much grams on the nutrition facts!?...how much creatine is it?

It's 3 grams per 4 scoop serving...yep...complicating for me since I am new to creatine mono and was wondering if I should go with a different gainer because of this...

I told my dad to pick me up some Muscle Juice tomorrow afternoon (that is if the store has it in stock) if not I have like 4 choices:

1. Cyto Gainer (creatine content, not sure since I take creatine mono)
2. PVL Mutant Mass (not a good quality gainer imo...full of sh!t)
3. Wait a few weeks and then buy ON's Pro complex gainer (any good?)
4. Give up on the gainer for awhile and take ON's 100% Whey Gold Strd

Your thoughts?

zkid002
08-29-2007, 01:17 PM
It's 3 grams per 4 scoop serving...yep...complicating for me since I am new to creatine mono and was wondering if I should go with a different gainer because of this...

I told my dad to pick me up some Muscle Juice tomorrow afternoon (that is if the store has it in stock) if not I have like 4 choices:

1. Cyto Gainer (creatine content, not sure since I take creatine mono)
2. PVL Mutant Mass (not a good quality gainer imo...full of sh!t)
3. Wait a few weeks and then buy ON's Pro complex gainer (any good?)
4. Give up on the gainer for awhile and take ON's 100% Whey Gold Strd

Your thoughts?

Cytogainer for sure!!...Its the best!..The tiny amount of creatine it has is fine!..Your not taking like a creatine supplement for god sakes, it just contains a few grams in it. Go with the Cytogainer, its fine, it'll work.

Blue Blazer
08-29-2007, 01:38 PM
Cytogainer for sure!!...Its the best!..The tiny amount of creatine it has is fine!..Your not taking like a creatine supplement for god sakes, it just contains a few grams in it. Go with the Cytogainer, its fine, it'll work.

Well one shake (4scoops) contains 3 grams...I take 6 scoops a day...roughly 2.2 grams of creatine..

When not loading, I need to consume 5 grams of creatine...already getting 2.2 from the shakes...so would I take 5 grams of creatine mono + the 2.2 grams I get from the shake..or just take another 3 grams of the creatine mono...that's what I am wondering...

Either way, I will try my best to get muscle juice...if all else fails, I will go with Cyto Gainer and then when the supps store gets it come in I will pick up some ON Pro Complex Gainer, and then see if she could order me some Serious Mass...

Joey..

iwishiwastyler
08-29-2007, 01:47 PM
Well I have Vanilla Cinnamon right now....it goes down easy but it tastes AWFUL...seriously worst flavor I have ever tried...but like I said it goes down easy, so I just block my nose and jug it down (usally what i do with all my gainers lol...all the gainers I've had tasted terrible)

Anyone recommend serious mass? Seems a bit too high in carbs.....I'm 160lbs and 15 yrs old....this a good gainer for me?

I love my Raspberry Yogurt IsoGainer, its amazing. I suggest giving it a chance before going to Muscle Juice.

Blue Blazer
08-29-2007, 02:01 PM
I love my Raspberry Yogurt IsoGainer, its amazing. I suggest giving it a chance before going to Muscle Juice.

I'll look into it, but I bought my IsoGainer at the supps store at a gym in ottawa...don't think GNC carries it and neither does the supps store I usally go to..

But she would probobly order it for me...hard to say..

Joey..

skinny ee
08-30-2007, 04:23 PM
Im very interested in Real Gains, so please post how it tastes, and how you liked it!..thanks..It tastes pretty good.

ShadyShadow13
08-30-2007, 05:07 PM
Milk + Honey :)

zkid002
08-30-2007, 05:46 PM
Milk + Honey :)

That doesnt sound tooo good!..Trying to gain fat bro?..

ShadyShadow13
08-30-2007, 05:58 PM
hmm whats in the weight gain supplement ?
buy a low fat milk and you will see that the macro are mostly similar .. honey give some taste .. dont put too much and hmm you cant take a mutli vitamin with it .. then forget about weight gainers ..
i never bought any :)

you can use non fat milk if you are worried ..

ShadyShadow13
08-30-2007, 06:03 PM
non fat is ok .. but for hard gainers .. full is the way to go

zkid002
08-30-2007, 06:40 PM
hmm whats in the weight gain supplement ?
buy a low fat milk and you will see that the macro are mostly similar .. honey give some taste .. dont put too much and hmm you cant take a mutli vitamin with it .. then forget about weight gainers ..
i never bought any :)

you can use non fat milk if you are worried ..


non fat is ok .. but for hard gainers .. full is the way to go

The only problem with what your saying is....you have to add protein powder!!!..thats all, ur right bout milk n honey tho..You just were missin a protein source!..(extra one besides milk, which contains sugar, and carbs 2)

Blue Blazer
08-30-2007, 08:35 PM
The only problem with what your saying is....you have to add protein powder!!!..thats all, ur right bout milk n honey tho..You just were missin a protein source!..(extra one besides milk, which contains sugar, and carbs 2)

Here's a good homemade gainer I just thought of (it would probobly taste terrible and be thick as hell though lol)

1. Cup of oats (grind them first)
2. 250ml of milk
3. 1 tbs of peanut butter
4. Banana or any other fruit
5. 2 scoops of whey

But as for me I will stick to the gainer until about March-April then I will cut and get ready for beach season lol...

Then I will have an excuse to walk around shirtless lol....

Sandhawk
08-31-2007, 12:30 PM
I tried Real Gains and Cytogainer,

So far I'm sticking with Cytogainer, it left me feeling less bloated

zkid002
08-31-2007, 02:42 PM
I tried Real Gains and Cytogainer,

So far I'm sticking with Cytogainer, it left me feeling less bloated

wow, that info helped alot. Those are the 2 im deciding between!..so u really prefer cytogainer over real gains?..compare them in all the fields(taste, results, etc...)

zkid002
08-31-2007, 02:58 PM
Here's a good homemade gainer I just thought of (it would probobly taste terrible and be thick as hell though lol)

1. Cup of oats (grind them first)
2. 250ml of milk
3. 1 tbs of peanut butter
4. Banana or any other fruit
5. 2 scoops of whey

But as for me I will stick to the gainer until about March-April then I will cut and get ready for beach season lol...

Then I will have an excuse to walk around shirtless lol....

I do a Homemade gainer, its great!!..but its kinda expensive, and uses alot of my familys products/my protein powder. Here it is though, its sooo good!

Oats
Peanut Butter
Milk
Ice
Strawberries
Blueberries
Bananas
ON Double Rich Chocolate(Whey)
Splenda
Cinnamon

MnMmmmMM..

Sandhawk
08-31-2007, 03:06 PM
wow, that info helped alot. Those are the 2 im deciding between!..so u really prefer cytogainer over real gains?..compare them in all the fields(taste, results, etc...)

I tried the vanilla real gains, mixed it with frozen strawberries and milk...Cytogainer I got chocolate malt and I simply blend it with milk and tastes just like chocolate milk and only takes a couple minutes to make. Both taste great IMO

I prefer Cytogainer because I felt less bloated and it has slightly more calories when mixed with 2 cups milk.

Either way, both are great weight gainers though

zkid002
08-31-2007, 04:06 PM
I tried the vanilla real gains, mixed it with frozen strawberries and milk...Cytogainer I got chocolate malt and I simply blend it with milk and tastes just like chocolate milk and only takes a couple minutes to make. Both taste great IMO

I prefer Cytogainer because I felt less bloated and it has slightly more calories when mixed with 2 cups milk.

Either way, both are great weight gainers though

Thanks for the advice!!

Blue Blazer
09-01-2007, 08:48 PM
Thanks for the advice!!

I haven't tried Real Gains zkid002, but was and still am very interested in trying it...I couldn't get any though...I live in Canada and couldn't find it anywhere...maybe I will order it through BB.com

But I did try CytoGainer...I really liked it...good gains, good quality, never felt bloated from it unlike the others I have tried...

I think Cytogainer is one of the best ones (from experience and comparing to others I have tried) I also liked Nutrabolics, felt bloated at first, but after a couple of days you adapt to it...Anybody who is a harder gainer who wants a bit more fats and sugars...Nutrabolics is the way to go!

Here's what I would like to try in the future:
1. Real Gains
2. Muscle Juice
3. CytoGainer in Chocolate malt (only had caramel swirl..)
4. Serious Mass
5. True Mass
I am also interested in ON Pro complex gainer....has anyone tried this? What did you all think...I assumed that if ON Whey Gold Standard is such a high quality Whey protein powder, that ON's pro complex would be good as well..

ON's products interest me alot...they seem to be a pretty legit company...

Your thoughts on ON Pro Complex Gainer? And others I listed...

JM

zkid002
09-01-2007, 09:12 PM
I haven't tried Real Gains zkid002, but was and still am very interested in trying it...I couldn't get any though...I live in Canada and couldn't find it anywhere...maybe I will order it through BB.com

But I did try CytoGainer...I really liked it...good gains, good quality, never felt bloated from it unlike the others I have tried...

I think Cytogainer is one of the best ones (from experience and comparing to others I have tried) I also liked Nutrabolics, felt bloated at first, but after a couple of days you adapt to it...Anybody who is a harder gainer who wants a bit more fats and sugars...Nutrabolics is the way to go!

Here's what I would like to try in the future:
1. Real Gains
2. Muscle Juice
3. CytoGainer in Chocolate malt (only had caramel swirl..)
4. Serious Mass
5. True Mass
I am also interested in ON Pro complex gainer....has anyone tried this? What did you all think...I assumed that if ON Whey Gold Standard is such a high quality Whey protein powder, that ON's pro complex would be good as well..

ON's products interest me alot...they seem to be a pretty legit company...

Your thoughts on ON Pro Complex Gainer? And others I listed...

JM

1. Real Gains- I recommend highly, the nutrition facts seem great, I know of people who have had success with this gainer, and its a great company.
2. Muscle Juice-NEVER WOULD I USE THIS. It has MORE Sugar than protein!..I just think its ridiculous...But there are others who will say the opposite, and will say they use/used it, like/liked it, and it gave results. I wouldn't chance it though. Seems like a weird nutritional breakdown to me

3. CytoGainer in Chocolate malt (only had caramel swirl..)-You already know how I feel bout Cytogainer(#1)
4. Serious Mass-Very Solid looking profile, Seems to be underspoken, but I know those who use it, and like it. dont hesitate to try it if you can.
5. True Mass-
6. ON Pro Complex Gainer-I was wondering the same thing that you were about them being a quality company, so the gainer must be good. I take their whey protein, and its great, so I wonder how the gainer is as well, Its prob good, try it if you can.

Goona go Eat Pre-Bed Meal!!..Peace.

ranDOMED
09-02-2007, 03:27 PM
I'm using real gains right now. It definetly makes you bloated and fart like noone other. I rip ass all day but its giving me some good gains so I guess its worth it

I just put 2 scoops, then 2 cups of milk and a slice of bread w\ pb twice a day with all my other meals. I was stuck at 165~ for over a month, after a week I've gained 2 pounds so yeah its good just you get bloated

kuroi_lightning
09-02-2007, 11:10 PM
I'm using real gains right now. It definetly makes you bloated and fart like noone other. I rip ass all day but its giving me some good gains so I guess its worth it


I experienced similar symptoms when I used Real Gains with milk, but it tastes and works the same with water... minus the bloating :)

ranDOMED
09-02-2007, 11:19 PM
I need the extra calories so I have no choice but milk

Skyles
09-03-2007, 12:52 AM
You can't go wrong with milk as a weight gainer.

Blue Blazer
09-03-2007, 04:13 PM
1. Real Gains- I recommend highly, the nutrition facts seem great, I know of people who have had success with this gainer, and its a great company.
2. Muscle Juice-NEVER WOULD I USE THIS. It has MORE Sugar than protein!..I just think its ridiculous...But there are others who will say the opposite, and will say they use/used it, like/liked it, and it gave results. I wouldn't chance it though. Seems like a weird nutritional breakdown to me

3. CytoGainer in Chocolate malt (only had caramel swirl..)-You already know how I feel bout Cytogainer(#1)
4. Serious Mass-Very Solid looking profile, Seems to be underspoken, but I know those who use it, and like it. dont hesitate to try it if you can.
5. True Mass-
6. ON Pro Complex Gainer-I was wondering the same thing that you were about them being a quality company, so the gainer must be good. I take their whey protein, and its great, so I wonder how the gainer is as well, Its prob good, try it if you can.

Goona go Eat Pre-Bed Meal!!..Peace.

Real Gains I will definitely try in the near future...Cyto Gainer is something I will be taking again, Serious Mass I will try, high in carbs though (don't think I need that much) True Mass is low in protein compared to most gainers but I'll probobly give it a go, ON Pro complex gainer I will try as soon as I run out of my ON Whey..

As for what you said about Muscle Juice, I am not worried about those sugars at all...and personally I don't think you should neither...Your not a big guy (113lbs) and I sure as hell am not a big guy (160lbs) so that's why I wouldn't fear buying a 10lb tub of Muscle Juice...I don't think it's something I'd buy again but definitely something I will try atleast once...

Here's my list of what I will try in chronological order lol:
1. ON Pro Complex Gainer (5lb tub)
2. Muscle Juice (10lb tub)
3. Serious Mass (smallest tub I can get)
4. True Mass (smallest tub I can get)
5. Real Gains (5lb tub)

Then after trying them all I will try and stick with one...Real Gains won't be one of them, simply because I cannot get it anywhere near where I live..I will have to get it from BB.com

I think after all of this I will be taking Cyto Gainer or ON Pro Complex Gainer because they seem to be better quality and "cleaner" gainers...besides getting those calories from food is more important then the gainer...

zkid002
09-03-2007, 05:42 PM
Real Gains I will definitely try in the near future...Cyto Gainer is something I will be taking again, Serious Mass I will try, high in carbs though (don't think I need that much) True Mass is low in protein compared to most gainers but I'll probobly give it a go, ON Pro complex gainer I will try as soon as I run out of my ON Whey..

As for what you said about Muscle Juice, I am not worried about those sugars at all...and personally I don't think you should neither...Your not a big guy (113lbs) and I sure as hell am not a big guy (160lbs) so that's why I wouldn't fear buying a 10lb tub of Muscle Juice...I don't think it's something I'd buy again but definitely something I will try atleast once...

Here's my list of what I will try in chronological order lol:
1. ON Pro Complex Gainer (5lb tub)
2. Muscle Juice (10lb tub)
3. Serious Mass (smallest tub I can get)
4. True Mass (smallest tub I can get)
5. Real Gains (5lb tub)

Then after trying them all I will try and stick with one...Real Gains won't be one of them, simply because I cannot get it anywhere near where I live..I will have to get it from BB.com

I think after all of this I will be taking Cyto Gainer or ON Pro Complex Gainer because they seem to be better quality and "cleaner" gainers...besides getting those calories from food is more important then the gainer...

If you know what your going to end up with in the end, why dont you just supply yourself with a surplus of those, and save yourself the time, and money of other gainers!..As you said, real food is wayy more important, so focus on that instead, and pay for some nice big steakss!(as well as the cytogainer/pro complex only)

Blue Blazer
09-03-2007, 07:24 PM
If you know what your going to end up with in the end, why dont you just supply yourself with a surplus of those, and save yourself the time, and money of other gainers!..As you said, real food is wayy more important, so focus on that instead, and pay for some nice big steakss!(as well as the cytogainer/pro complex only)

Well first off I don't have to pay for my steaks...that's what parents are for lol

Second, the reason I am going to try these gainers is just to see what else is out there...maybe Muscle Juice will work well for me who knows...maybe true mass will do the trick for me etc...

I like trying different gainers because you learn alot this way and THEN you have a say...you CAN ACTUALLY give advice and say what is crap and what is good...

it's a learning experience and it's just what I want to do...I want to try many different gainers to see what works and how good they are...

really it's just to find out what works well with me, what doesn't and so on...

JM

zkid002
09-03-2007, 07:33 PM
Well first off I don't have to pay for my steaks...that's what parents are for lol

Second, the reason I am going to try these gainers is just to see what else is out there...maybe Muscle Juice will work well for me who knows...maybe true mass will do the trick for me etc...

I like trying different gainers because you learn alot this way and THEN you have a say...you CAN ACTUALLY give advice and say what is crap and what is good...

it's a learning experience and it's just what I want to do...I want to try many different gainers to see what works and how good they are...

really it's just to find out what works well with me, what doesn't and so on...

JM

Hey, if you have the money to buy them all, and this is what you wish to do, I back your idea!..Seems great, I love how you are on a quest for knowledge, and want to see how these gainers affect you. Have fun with your experiments!

J_Mart2387
09-03-2007, 09:09 PM
I don't think anyone on here has once mentioned Nature's Best Isopure Mass. Good gainer, the taste isn't too bad. It is pretty expensive, but it's also lactose free with a good ingredient profile and over 600 calories. Makes my piss neon yellow from all the B vitamins though lol.

raging_demon
09-03-2007, 11:59 PM
wow so many opinions. I heard low GI weight gainers are the best. The ones full of sugar make u gain but once u go off all the weight disappears.

sapaz85
09-04-2007, 01:37 AM
The best protein I have used is USN Protein Plex. Gained 6 Kg (13 lbs) in 1 month

masso123
09-04-2007, 03:08 AM
Gnc's mass xxx

you get 750 calories or over 900 calories with milk

zkid002
09-04-2007, 02:16 PM
Gnc's mass xxx

you get 750 calories or over 900 calories with milk

Maybe in calories its great, but the ingredients are not top notch at all, and the SUGARS in that are CRAZY HIGH!..dont recommend it, you should switch your gainer.

Blue Blazer
09-04-2007, 02:33 PM
Maybe in calories its great, but the ingredients are not top notch at all, and the SUGARS in that are CRAZY HIGH!..dont recommend it, you should switch your gainer.

Yeah and I heard that the GNC Gainer's servings are huge lol...not sure how big though...

I thought I heard someone saying 5lbs lasted him 3 days(not sure) lol...haha

JM

ranDOMED
09-04-2007, 08:22 PM
I woke up this morning with another pound while using real gains.... that makes 4 in the last 9 days

I take 2scoops 3 times a day with 1.5 cups of milk which is about an extra 2k calories

Im Arrogant
09-04-2007, 08:41 PM
I may be one of the few people that found GNC Weight Gainer 2200 Gold to work wonders. I gained 10pds in one month.

weswes
09-04-2007, 09:16 PM
ive tried cytogainer mint chocolate and regular chocolate..I enjoy.

I got my sample in of Real Gains by Universal today and I can honestly say IMO that cytogainer mint & chocolate tastes WAY better than Real Gains - chocolate icecream does.

Im stickin to my Cytogainer + plus it has 3g creatine

Julian_H
09-04-2007, 09:22 PM
wow so many opinions. I heard low GI weight gainers are the best. The ones full of sugar make u gain but once u go off all the weight disappears.

good luck finding a manufactured gainer with low GI. Up Your Mass is decent but contains soy protein,which may or may not be an issue.

zkid002
09-05-2007, 02:31 PM
I woke up this morning with another pound while using real gains.... that makes 4 in the last 9 days

I take 2scoops 3 times a day with 1.5 cups of milk which is about an extra 2k calories

Wow, thats some good gains man!!..I just got my Real Gains Samples, will be trying them very soon!..Ill post how I feel bout em..


ive tried cytogainer mint chocolate and regular chocolate..I enjoy.

I got my sample in of Real Gains by Universal today and I can honestly say IMO that cytogainer mint & chocolate tastes WAY better than Real Gains - chocolate icecream does.

Im stickin to my Cytogainer + plus it has 3g creatine

Thanks for the input, Im still stuck between cytogainer and real gains!!..As of now, im leaning towards cytogainer, as you are/did. I hope/want it to taste better, and lots of people have had success with cytogainer...Still I am going to try my Real Gains samples, and see how they taste/go!...

DaniCali
09-05-2007, 02:39 PM
ALLMAX QuickMass

Blue Blazer
09-06-2007, 05:30 PM
Wow, thats some good gains man!!..I just got my Real Gains Samples, will be trying them very soon!..Ill post how I feel bout em..



Thanks for the input, Im still stuck between cytogainer and real gains!!..As of now, im leaning towards cytogainer, as you are/did. I hope/want it to taste better, and lots of people have had success with cytogainer...Still I am going to try my Real Gains samples, and see how they taste/go!...

Don't be afraid to try different gainers...real gains and cytogainer have about the same nutritional value, real gains as lower cholesterol though, that's why real gains has always caught my eye...

Blue Blazer
09-06-2007, 05:33 PM
ALLMAX QuickMass

I sincerely hope you are joking...

10lbs in 10days eh, what a load of bull haha...I've taken this gainer twice with a good bulking diet...never made me gain 10lbs in 10 days no sir...although the second time I used it it worked better (only had a 3.2lb tub I believe) and then used my PVL MutantMass...

These 2 together helped me gain 10lbs in a month...not bad

Right now I am relying on food to make me gain though, stopped taking a gainer for this month and am taking ON Natural Whey...

After I will try ON's Pro complex gainer, I am really leaning towards this one...

JM

zkid002
09-06-2007, 05:33 PM
Don't be afraid to try different gainers...real gains and cytogainer have about the same nutritional value, real gains as lower cholesterol though, that's why real gains has always caught my eye...

I just had my Real Gains Sample!..and WOW the Chocolate Flavor was the WORST POWDER I ever tasted!!..It was nasty, literally, I almost threw up, it was not a good thing at all, my mom was scared...lol...

Sv87guS
09-06-2007, 07:30 PM
I just had my Real Gains Sample!..and WOW the Chocolate Flavor was the WORST POWDER I ever tasted!!..It was nasty, literally, I almost threw up, it was not a good thing at all, my mom was scared...lol...

Well then you probably shouldnt be takingit then i think it takes great.

Blue Blazer
09-06-2007, 08:11 PM
I just had my Real Gains Sample!..and WOW the Chocolate Flavor was the WORST POWDER I ever tasted!!..It was nasty, literally, I almost threw up, it was not a good thing at all, my mom was scared...lol...

Well in general I despise the taste of protein powders and gainers...I just block my nose and chug em down...f*ck it lol

I could care less...I am use to eating things that taste awful now lol

JM

zkid002
09-07-2007, 01:50 PM
Well in general I despise the taste of protein powders and gainers...I just block my nose and chug em down...f*ck it lol

I could care less...I am use to eating things that taste awful now lol

JM

WOW, you serious?..I make DAMN SURE im enjoying what Im eating and drinking!..and especially what im paying to SUPPLEMENTS!..I dont know what it was, but that what honestly the worst tasting powder EVER!..All of you that have had REAL GAINS CHOCOLATE, and I know theres tonsss!...What did you feel about the taste?..

teraflx
09-07-2007, 01:52 PM
I just had my Real Gains Sample!..and WOW the Chocolate Flavor was the WORST POWDER I ever tasted!!..It was nasty, literally, I almost threw up, it was not a good thing at all, my mom was scared...lol...

I wasnt a fan of real gains either. Love their other products but to me real gains tasted pretty bad.

King Alex
09-07-2007, 05:13 PM
does anyone know if u can mix muscle juice with a spoon or in a shaker bottle, or do u have to put it in a blender

zkid002
09-07-2007, 06:27 PM
does anyone know if u can mix muscle juice with a spoon or in a shaker bottle, or do u have to put it in a blender

..It would be alott more convenient in a blender...Id cancel out the spoon though, that would definitely NOT work...So id narrow down to shaker bottle, or blender..

jmurphy22
09-07-2007, 07:06 PM
my order of real gains will be here tomorrow :]

King Alex
09-07-2007, 07:13 PM
..It would be alott more convenient in a blender...Id cancel out the spoon though, that would definitely NOT work...So id narrow down to shaker bottle, or blender..

yeah i didnt think the spoon would work out too well either, but i dont have a blender so im hoping a shaker bottle work, anyone else use muscle juice before?

Larry8me
09-08-2007, 12:30 PM
Pro lab N-LARGE 2 All the way baby!!! taste not so good but has what you need. Taste is not to be pleased when it comes to getting the best!

garn
09-09-2007, 08:40 AM
Pro lab N-LARGE 2 All the way baby!!! taste not so good but has what you need. Taste is not to be pleased when it comes to getting the best!

I started out with N-Large 2, its OK

Seriously try Real Gains or Cytogainer, both are far superior, and actually taste good!

ZDub212
09-09-2007, 09:12 AM
Best weight gainers are UP Your Mass & IsoGainer...nothing else compares...for post workout, Real Gains/Cytogainer and many others are great choices, but as a general MRP? No way.

If I HAD to use weight gainers I would take UP Your Mass as an MRP, and IsoGainer post workout.

But the best weight gainers are the ones you make yourself.

Protein (Whey is fine, casein/whey blend is better!)
Oats
Milk
All Natural Peanut Butter
Optional fruit/honey

Blend, enjoy. I really like doing this the following protein choices:

DE Butter Toffee
ON - Extreme Milk Chocolate or Cookies & Cream
XF Ultra Peptide Chocolate or Vanilla
Syntrax Matrix C&C (I know, I know)
ISS Research Micellar Matrix Banana
SAN Infusion - (I take out the PB for this one, no added fruit or honey either)

Any vanilla (Gets masked by the rest, more focus on the ingredients than the protein powder)

garn
09-09-2007, 10:24 AM
Best weight gainers are UP Your Mass & IsoGainer...nothing else compares...for post workout, Real Gains/Cytogainer and many others are great choices, but as a general MRP? No way.



I don't take weightgainers as an MRP, but a supplement in addition to my diet

zkid002
09-09-2007, 10:53 AM
Best weight gainers are UP Your Mass & IsoGainer...nothing else compares...for post workout, Real Gains/Cytogainer and many others are great choices, but as a general MRP? No way.

If I HAD to use weight gainers I would take UP Your Mass as an MRP, and IsoGainer post workout.

But the best weight gainers are the ones you make yourself.

Protein (Whey is fine, casein/whey blend is better!)
Oats
Milk
All Natural Peanut Butter
Optional fruit/honey

Blend, enjoy. I really like doing this the following protein choices:

DE Butter Toffee
ON - Extreme Milk Chocolate or Cookies & Cream
XF Ultra Peptide Chocolate or Vanilla
Syntrax Matrix C&C (I know, I know)
ISS Research Micellar Matrix Banana
SAN Infusion - (I take out the PB for this one, no added fruit or honey either)

Any vanilla (Gets masked by the rest, more focus on the ingredients than the protein powder)

Wow, I just checked out the nutrition facts on Up Your Mass, and WOW they are AMAZING!..The only problem is in the ingredients, the soy protein being the main protein source!?!?..what do you feel about that?..its kinda holdin me back from buying/using this gainer...

I don't take weightgainers as an MRP, but a supplement in addition to my diet

Thats like the same thing tho...havin the shake to supplement your diet...its a snack/meal/watever u wanna call it..

V.H.9.8.4.
09-09-2007, 06:51 PM
Wow, I just checked out the nutrition facts on Up Your Mass, and WOW they are AMAZING!..The only problem is in the ingredients, the soy protein being the main protein source!?!?..what do you feel about that?..its kinda holdin me back from buying/using this gainer...

whats wrong with soy protein isolate?

ZDub212
09-09-2007, 09:14 PM
I don't take weightgainers as an MRP, but a supplement in addition to my diet

You take in a huge amount of sugary carbs as a supplement and you don't adjust your macros for the day...odd choice.


Wow, I just checked out the nutrition facts on Up Your Mass, and WOW they are AMAZING!..The only problem is in the ingredients, the soy protein being the main protein source!?!?..what do you feel about that?..its kinda holdin me back from buying/using this gainer...


Thats like the same thing tho...havin the shake to supplement your diet...its a snack/meal/watever u wanna call it..

You're 15, make your own!!! SAVE MONEY!


whats wrong with soy protein isolate?

Not much...in moderation that is.

Lean2Mass
09-09-2007, 11:15 PM
I've tried Cytosport Cytogainer, Champion Heavyweight Gainer, and ProLab 2 N-Large. I have to say that the Champion Heavyweight Gainer is the most affordable, best tasting, and most effecient. The other 2 are great too, but I think it's the beef protein, extra calories, and fat grams that have made the Champion brand work best with my body.

zkid002
09-10-2007, 02:57 PM
You're 15, make your own!!! SAVE MONEY!

But if I have the money...Is soy protein isolate as their MAIN protein source a concern??..wouldnt it be better if it was whey, or casein, or milk protein?..do you take that to account?..

Addiction
09-10-2007, 06:06 PM
Most weight gainers are packed full of sugar and they are expensive. Like Zachary said make your own. Much cheaper and much better for you.
Heres the one I make,

1.5oz Milk
.75 cup Oats
2 Tbsp Natty Peanut Butter
1 Banana
1 cup Ice
1 Scoop ON Chocolate

Put in blender and blend until smooth.

zkid002
09-10-2007, 06:51 PM
Most weight gainers are packed full of sugar and they are expensive. Like Zachary said make your own. Much cheaper and much better for you.
Heres the one I make,

1.5oz Milk
.75 cup Oats
2 Tbsp Natty Peanut Butter
1 Banana
1 cup Ice
1 Scoop ON Chocolate

Put in blender and blend until smooth.

Nice simple gainer youve got there...I actually make the same one!..

ranDOMED
09-11-2007, 02:53 PM
hell yeah another pound for me this morning. lovin the real gains

Blue Blazer
09-11-2007, 02:58 PM
WOW, you serious?..I make DAMN SURE im enjoying what Im eating and drinking!..and especially what im paying to SUPPLEMENTS!..I dont know what it was, but that what honestly the worst tasting powder EVER!..All of you that have had REAL GAINS CHOCOLATE, and I know theres tonsss!...What did you feel about the taste?..

Well then we obviously don't eat the same stuff and we obviously don't share the same opinions as far as the taste of whey goes..

Well here's basically what I eat in a day roughly: PB, tuna, oats, any type of meat, veggies, fruits, protein shakes, wheat bread, pb sandwhiches, 1lb of ground beef with pasta and tomato sauce, nuts, eggs...

Here's what I dislike: PB sandwhiches (really getting sick of these), tuna (just don't like the taste), oats (not use to it yet lol) and nuts (don't like em because it takes awhile to eat the serving I need in 5 minutes lol)

But other than that I love eating any DEAD ANIMAL lol, love veggies, love fruits, drink plenty of water, I am not the pickiest person, but there's just some things you get sick of eating (pb sandwhiches are really getting old lol)

As for the protein shakes, I live any shake that tastes the closest to water lol...ON Whey Vanilla for example, it's great because there's not much taste (I take the Natural ON Whey..)

I have had some bad weight gainers, next month I will be going back to Cyto Gainer, if not ON Pro Complex Gainer...if I get the ON I will probobly give chocolate and vanilla a shot...

If I get cyto, I'll get chocolate malt, chocolate mint and possibly Vanilla..

Any suggs, your thoughts?

zkid002
09-11-2007, 04:13 PM
Well then we obviously don't eat the same stuff and we obviously don't share the same opinions as far as the taste of whey goes..

Well here's basically what I eat in a day roughly: PB, tuna, oats, any type of meat, veggies, fruits, protein shakes, wheat bread, pb sandwhiches, 1lb of ground beef with pasta and tomato sauce, nuts, eggs...

Here's what I dislike: PB sandwhiches (really getting sick of these), tuna (just don't like the taste), oats (not use to it yet lol) and nuts (don't like em because it takes awhile to eat the serving I need in 5 minutes lol)

But other than that I love eating any DEAD ANIMAL lol, love veggies, love fruits, drink plenty of water, I am not the pickiest person, but there's just some things you get sick of eating (pb sandwhiches are really getting old lol)

As for the protein shakes, I live any shake that tastes the closest to water lol...ON Whey Vanilla for example, it's great because there's not much taste (I take the Natural ON Whey..)

I have had some bad weight gainers, next month I will be going back to Cyto Gainer, if not ON Pro Complex Gainer...if I get the ON I will probobly give chocolate and vanilla a shot...

If I get cyto, I'll get chocolate malt, chocolate mint and possibly Vanilla..

Any suggs, your thoughts?

Thats not true!..I eat EVERY food you eat!!..great selections, love em!..The only thing is, why dont u like to actually have a good tasting powder?..I like to actually enjoy the shake..

Blue Blazer
09-12-2007, 05:26 PM
Thats not true!..I eat EVERY food you eat!!..great selections, love em!..The only thing is, why dont u like to actually have a good tasting powder?..I like to actually enjoy the shake..

Well I can't say I don't like the food I eat, because I would be lying lol...Because I LOVE FOOD PERIOD!

But I must say I am getting sick of eating toast and peanut butter in the morning...I think I am going to have jam on my toasts and just scoop it out of the tub for a little change...but I'll still have my pb sandwhich in the afternoon with my banana...lol

Going to try and get use to dem damn oats lol...for whatever reason I am having trouble getting use to eating them, tastes very plain...maybe I'll add some fruit to it, some splenda, not sure...

As for the good tasting powder, well I do like the ON Natural 100% Whey because it isn't sweet...I didn't like some of my gainers due to the sugary taste...

Whether I like the food or I don't, I still eat it, NO MATTER WHAT!

JM

Addiction
09-12-2007, 05:35 PM
Well I can't say I don't like the food I eat, because I would be lying lol...Because I LOVE FOOD PERIOD!

But I must say I am getting sick of eating toast and peanut butter in the morning...I think I am going to have jam on my toasts and just scoop it out of the tub for a little change...but I'll still have my pb sandwhich in the afternoon with my banana...lol

Going to try and get use to dem damn oats lol...for whatever reason I am having trouble getting use to eating them, tastes very plain...maybe I'll add some fruit to it, some splenda, not sure...

As for the good tasting powder, well I do like the ON Natural 100% Whey because it isn't sweet...I didn't like some of my gainers due to the sugary taste...

Whether I like the food or I don't, I still eat it, NO MATTER WHAT!

JM

I had problems with the oats as well. What I started doing is putting a cup of them in with my Chocolate ON and eating them like cereal, then drinking the rest. Sound gross, but actually they taste like chocolate rice crispy's....YUM

Blue Blazer
09-12-2007, 05:44 PM
I had problems with the oats as well. What I started doing is putting a cup of them in with my Chocolate ON and eating them like cereal, then drinking the rest. Sound gross, but actually they taste like chocolate rice crispy's....YUM

So basically you prepared your oats mixed a shake and poured the shake in with your oats? Am I right?

A few time I would just wash them down with water (not even cooked) some guys said that's fine, nothing wrong with it, but it requires lots of water and bloats me up a bit...so I am going to cook them again, but I am going to start with 1/3 of a cup and work my way up...I'll probobly have it for my pwo workout with my shake to start off and when I adapt to the taste I will eat it in the morning...(because I don't have much time in the morning to eat, always on the run lol)

JM

CLK-GTR
09-13-2007, 02:08 AM
after spending 6 months using pro lab n large 2 ive just finished my first tub of cytogainer and have ordered 3 more. the n large2 did a very good job in putting on size, but i always had to be careful of my fat levels with it and its sugar content. with cytogainer ive found that in addition to maintaining the weight increase im getting cut up without even trying....the rest of my diet/training has remained identical to before. plus, cookies and cream flavour with milk tastes just like melted down haagen daas :D

zkid002
09-13-2007, 07:23 AM
after spending 6 months using pro lab n large 2 ive just finished my first tub of cytogainer and have ordered 3 more. the n large2 did a very good job in putting on size, but i always had to be careful of my fat levels with it and its sugar content. with cytogainer ive found that in addition to maintaining the weight increase im getting cut up without even trying....the rest of my diet/training has remained identical to before. plus, cookies and cream flavour with milk tastes just like melted down haagen daas :D

Wow, I think god is trying to get me to buy cytogainer!!..I need to get this gainer!!..Im dyin for it!..thanks for the info man..I hope I see gains this good as well..

Addiction
09-13-2007, 09:09 AM
So basically you prepared your oats mixed a shake and poured the shake in with your oats? Am I right?

A few time I would just wash them down with water (not even cooked) some guys said that's fine, nothing wrong with it, but it requires lots of water and bloats me up a bit...so I am going to cook them again, but I am going to start with 1/3 of a cup and work my way up...I'll probobly have it for my pwo workout with my shake to start off and when I adapt to the taste I will eat it in the morning...(because I don't have much time in the morning to eat, always on the run lol)

JM

What I do is, mix my protien with milk (using a fork) and then just pour the raw oats in there and mix it up. I just spoon them out and eat em. Trust me it tastes great. I tried the raw oats and water thing. VERY hard to stomach, tastes like complete crap...

Hardgainer2000
09-13-2007, 04:11 PM
what is up with the cholestrol level in cytogainer?

Combine that with other food when bulking and its not good.

ZDub212
09-13-2007, 04:17 PM
what is up with the cholestrol level in cytogainer?

Combine that with other food when bulking and its not good.

Dietary cholesterol doesn't affect serum levels...it doesn't matter AT ALL.

zkid002
09-13-2007, 04:20 PM
Dietary cholesterol doesn't affect serum levels...it doesn't matter AT ALL.

But the thing is...how do you know if its dietary or not?..if you wouldnt of said that I wouldnt of known...how do you tell?..

Hardgainer2000
09-13-2007, 04:21 PM
Dietary cholesterol doesn't affect serum levels...it doesn't matter AT ALL.

huh can you explain "dietary cholestrol."

Are eggs dietary?

ZDub212
09-13-2007, 04:25 PM
But the thing is...how do you know if its dietary or not?..if you wouldnt of said that I wouldnt of known...how do you tell?..

What are you talking? If it's coming from your diet...it's dietary cholesterol...all cholesterol in ALL food is dietary cholesterol. The cholesterol found in our bodies is LDL and HDL, that's called serum cholesterol. Cholesterol is determined by genetics, lifestyle habits ie smoking/drinking, and can be altered if you consume too much crap food with saturated fats & high gi processed garbage.

zkid002
09-13-2007, 04:31 PM
huh can you explain "dietary cholestrol."

Are eggs dietary?

I dont even know how to respond to this, because Im veryyy confused..

Blue Blazer
09-13-2007, 05:38 PM
I dont even know how to respond to this, because Im veryyy confused..

Dude don't worry about Cyto Gainer's cholesterol content, the only way you will clog your arteries by a high cholesterol intake is if your consuming alot of junk food, foods containing loads of saturated and trans fats and what not...

The cholesterol in cytogainer is not something to be concerned about unless your planning at eatin 2 meals at micky dee's a day...

Besides your young (like me), small (like me) lol so this is another reason not to worry about it...your bulking no worries..

Yeah also, you don't NEED this gainer...Hell you could pick up some ON Whey and just take 2 shakes a day along with alot of food like I am doing...in the end your diet will determine whether you put the weight on or not, not the gainer...

But a gainer is a nice little extra, but not necessary...food concurs all...remember your 130lbs, it should be only easy for you to get ALL of your carbs, protein and fats from your diet + a pwo shake like ON..

I'm not saying don't buy the gainer but I am basically trying to tell you that nobody should rely on a gainer to do the work...even when I took them I never did...I was always afraid I wasn't eating enough so I counted everyday to make sure...don't count right now, I can add most of it up in my head lol..

JM

ZDub212
09-13-2007, 06:46 PM
Dude don't worry about Cyto Gainer's cholesterol content, the only way you will clog your arteries by a high cholesterol intake is if your consuming alot of junk food, foods containing loads of saturated and trans fats and what not...

The cholesterol in cytogainer is not something to be concerned about unless your planning at eatin 2 meals at micky dee's a day...

Besides your young (like me), small (like me) lol so this is another reason not to worry about it...your bulking no worries..

Yeah also, you don't NEED this gainer...Hell you could pick up some ON Whey and just take 2 shakes a day along with alot of food like I am doing...in the end your diet will determine whether you put the weight on or not, not the gainer...

But a gainer is a nice little extra, but not necessary...food concurs all...remember your 130lbs, it should be only easy for you to get ALL of your carbs, protein and fats from your diet + a pwo shake like ON..

I'm not saying don't buy the gainer but I am basically trying to tell you that nobody should rely on a gainer to do the work...even when I took them I never did...I was always afraid I wasn't eating enough so I counted everyday to make sure...don't count right now, I can add most of it up in my head lol..

JM

Smart kid.

Blue Blazer
09-15-2007, 10:02 AM
Smart kid.

Thanks for the compliment, lol...nice to see that I'm not a complete jack@ss lol

Yeah I've been taking the bulking diet to the max for the past 2 weeks and I put on 5 LBS!

This is the best gains I have EVERRRRRRRRRR got and I can proudly say I did it with food and not a gainer!

I think this is an excellent example why foods are more important than any gainer...no disrespect to gainers, because I like them and plan on taking them again in the near future...

I am very satisfied with my gains in the past 2 weeks, upper body took some of the weight but the mid section and ab area took some of it two...starting to get worried if I am gaining TOO MUCH in the gut, it is really starting to show...

JM

zkid002
09-15-2007, 10:21 AM
Thanks for the compliment, lol...nice to see that I'm not a complete jack@ss lol

Yeah I've been taking the bulking diet to the max for the past 2 weeks and I put on 5 LBS!

This is the best gains I have EVERRRRRRRRRR got and I can proudly say I did it with food and not a gainer!

I think this is an excellent example why foods are more important than any gainer...no disrespect to gainers, because I like them and plan on taking them again in the near future...

I am very satisfied with my gains in the past 2 weeks, upper body took some of the weight but the mid section and ab area took some of it two...starting to get worried if I am gaining TOO MUCH in the gut, it is really starting to show...

JM

Hey!..Nice gains!!..without a gainer, I gained 4 POUNDS IN 2 DAYS!!..ha!..And lucky for me, my abs got MORE NOTICEABLE!!..Im soo happy with my gains, and eating REAL FOOD, its awesome...At one point during my bulk, my abs were fading, but I guess my body is getting used to the bulk, and they are showing up again, and re-building, as well as strengthening!!..

Blue Blazer
09-15-2007, 11:31 AM
Hey!..Nice gains!!..without a gainer, I gained 4 POUNDS IN 2 DAYS!!..ha!..And lucky for me, my abs got MORE NOTICEABLE!!..Im soo happy with my gains, and eating REAL FOOD, its awesome...At one point during my bulk, my abs were fading, but I guess my body is getting used to the bulk, and they are showing up again, and re-building, as well as strengthening!!..

Well I said 5lbs in 2 weeks but hell it could have been one week hard to say because it was the first time I weighed myself in 2 weeks...could have put the weight on in the first few days hard to say...

As for what you said on your body getting use to the bulk and what not, well it don't think it has anything to do with your body adapting I think it has to do with your weight...much harder to lose those abs at your size...I know because when I first started my bulk (130-135lbs) I took awhile before the abs faded...

My goal is to get to 170 by the end of September...I think I can easily do it if I keep up with the good work...

I will keep you posted...

JM

zkid002
09-15-2007, 12:17 PM
Well I said 5lbs in 2 weeks but hell it could have been one week hard to say because it was the first time I weighed myself in 2 weeks...could have put the weight on in the first few days hard to say...

As for what you said on your body getting use to the bulk and what not, well it don't think it has anything to do with your body adapting I think it has to do with your weight...much harder to lose those abs at your size...I know because when I first started my bulk (130-135lbs) I took awhile before the abs faded...

My goal is to get to 170 by the end of September...I think I can easily do it if I keep up with the good work...

I will keep you posted...

JM

Nice Goal, 170 will be a good weight for you...hope you reach it!!

kevolution
09-15-2007, 12:23 PM
Hey!..Nice gains!!..without a gainer, I gained 4 POUNDS IN 2 DAYS!!..ha!..And lucky for me, my abs got MORE NOTICEABLE!!..Im soo happy with my gains, and eating REAL FOOD, its awesome...At one point during my bulk, my abs were fading, but I guess my body is getting used to the bulk, and they are showing up again, and re-building, as well as strengthening!!..

Not to burst your bubble, but 4 lbs. in 2 days isn't really an accurate measurement. You should probably wait at least a week to see if the 4 lbs is still there because it could just be water weight or the massive amounts of food you ate recently. If you increase at the rate of 4 lbs in 2 days... that aint safe.

zkid002
09-15-2007, 12:26 PM
Not to burst your bubble, but 4 lbs. in 2 days isn't really an accurate measurement. You should probably wait at least a week to see if the 4 lbs is still there because it could just be water weight or the massive amounts of food you ate recently. If you increase at the rate of 4 lbs in 2 days... that aint safe.

Oh I wont, thats crazy!!...but I did gain the four pounds in a two day span, Im not trying to keep that rate though, I just ate VERY WELL in those days, lol..

Blue Blazer
09-15-2007, 12:48 PM
Oh I wont, thats crazy!!...but I did gain the four pounds in a two day span, Im not trying to keep that rate though, I just ate VERY WELL in those days, lol..

Well it's nothing out of the ordinary especially when first starting a bulk or starting a bulk again after a break...I've seen weirder things

Nice gains...JM

friedrice683
09-15-2007, 02:17 PM
Growth happens in spurts too



VERY RARELY do you see someone continually gain 1/7 of a lb a day so 1lb a week. Most growth comes in 2-3lb spurts over the course of a couple days.


4lbs in 2 days in other words is awesome.

Donica
09-15-2007, 03:31 PM
Personally, I've tried a number of weight gainers in the past year and from my experience, NOW Sports Nutrition's Pro-Gainer comes out on top. Not only is it the most natural gainer I've found and doesn't have any artificial sweeteners, it also has whey, casein, and egg protein, so it's good for a shake just before bed if you're concerned about having calories in your stomach for a while.

The calorie profie is 6xx (I'm between tubs and don't recall the exact amount per serving--I think it is 660 per three scoops of powder, but for my size I only ever use two scoops which have about 440 calories per shake when I mix the powder with water) and somewhere around 40 grams of protein per suggested serving with water (it is twenty-something for my adjusted shakes), but of course you could make the shakes with milk or some other beverage. The serving suggestion is about two shakes per day, post-workout and before bed, which would add about 1200 calories to your diet. For a big guy, that would probably be fine, but again I'm smaller and so spread those 1200 over three smaller shakes.

The flavors come in chocolate and vanilla; I haven't had the chocolate yet, but the vanilla tastes a bit like butterscotch, or egg nog. The ingredients also boast digestive enzymes as well as a broad amino acid profile and enough basic vitamins and minerals to make it a nifty little multi all wrapped up into the convenient package of a sports nutrition shake. Compared to the likes of some of the other brands I've tried this year--most of which tasted like sugary junk food to me--as a substitute for a meal and a weight gainer to boot, Pro-Gainer remains my personal favorite.

Blue Blazer
09-15-2007, 04:20 PM
Personally, I've tried a number of weight gainers in the past year and from my experience, NOW Sports Nutrition's Pro-Gainer comes out on top. Not only is it the most natural gainer I've found and doesn't have any artificial sweeteners, it also has whey, casein, and egg protein, so it's good for a shake just before bed if you're concerned about having calories in your stomach for a while.

The calorie profie is 6xx (I'm between tubs and don't recall the exact amount per serving--I think it is 660 per three scoops of powder, but for my size I only ever use two scoops which have about 440 calories per shake when I mix the powder with water) and somewhere around 40 grams of protein per suggested serving with water (it is twenty-something for my adjusted shakes), but of course you could make the shakes with milk or some other beverage. The serving suggestion is about two shakes per day, post-workout and before bed, which would add about 1200 calories to your diet. For a big guy, that would probably be fine, but again I'm smaller and so spread those 1200 over three smaller shakes.

The flavors come in chocolate and vanilla; I haven't had the chocolate yet, but the vanilla tastes a bit like butterscotch, or egg nog. The ingredients also boast digestive enzymes as well as a broad amino acid profile and enough basic vitamins and minerals to make it a nifty little multi all wrapped up into the convenient package of a sports nutrition shake. Compared to the likes of some of the other brands I've tried this year--most of which tasted like sugary junk food to me--as a substitute for a meal and a weight gainer to boot, Pro-Gainer remains my personal favorite.

Yeah I jsut checked it out, I was liking it at first then I noticed 35 grams of protein for 1 serving (3 scoops)

And you said your only taking 2 scoops...your only getting like 23 grams of protein per serving...pretty weak..

You could take ON Whey and get 24(?) or 26(?) grams of protein...usally gainers contain more protein than whey protein powders...

Just my thoughts...JM

BIG CHUCKY
09-15-2007, 04:26 PM
by the looks of my pics i would say my mother and my wifes cooking.lol

Phillygreen
09-15-2007, 05:11 PM
I have taken 100% whey products and I have broken out in a severe rash. So obviously I am allergic to that much whey. Is there any products out there I should look into. I have taken Syntha 6, and some other products. Personally I would prefer something that is available at GNC stores, seeing that it is easier to pick up for me. I'm a noobie so has much info would be great. I was told that X-Factor is excellent.

Blue Blazer
09-16-2007, 01:49 PM
I have taken 100% whey products and I have broken out in a severe rash. So obviously I am allergic to that much whey. Is there any products out there I should look into. I have taken Syntha 6, and some other products. Personally I would prefer something that is available at GNC stores, seeing that it is easier to pick up for me. I'm a noobie so has much info would be great. I was told that X-Factor is excellent.

WE HAVE A THREAD HIJACKER HERE! lol

Well I think I would just take syntha-6 or even take a weight gainer...you should make a seperate thread for this in the supps section...this is the supps war section and this is the gainer thread...you kind of in the wrong place here...

I suggest you delete you post..JM

pfwillia
09-16-2007, 05:47 PM
only thing ive tried is cyto gainer.....and i love it....the pounds are adding up quicker than ever now

cytosport has a lot of cholestrol in it though, thats terrible

zkid002
09-16-2007, 06:13 PM
cytosport has a lot of cholestrol in it though, thats terrible

ITS NOT BAD CHOLESTREOL...dietary cholestreol, does NOT affect your levels like other cholestreol...Cytogainer is an amazing, solid, gainer...Besides, read below as well, that was posted a couple of posts ago, thought you would see it if you looked through the page..


Dude don't worry about Cyto Gainer's cholesterol content, the only way you will clog your arteries by a high cholesterol intake is if your consuming alot of junk food, foods containing loads of saturated and trans fats and what not...

The cholesterol in cytogainer is not something to be concerned about unless your planning at eatin 2 meals at micky dee's a day...

D-town=no good
09-16-2007, 07:31 PM
I put on 16lbs in the past 3 months which is not bad i suppose. I use True-Mass and Syntha-6 along with Cell-Tech and Nitrix,,, I really wouldn't worry bout cholesterol either. I just try to stay away from junk and I'm happy with my gains so far.

Whatta you guys know about any of the high Calorie weight gainers??? True-Mass is 800 cal w 16oz milk,,,, Cyto is 740?? or something correct?? What about Muscle Juice or TwinLab??? Juice is like 1200cal w/ water and Twinlab is 2200cal. I'm just looking for a lil something so I don't have to eat 8 meals a day? Any suggestions