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emmie
04-07-2007, 01:19 PM
Thank you for the professional opinion, Ric! (Computer stuff is your profession, am I right?) I like FREE - and if it works well, that's even better. :D I confess that I run Spybot "when I remember", so that's probably not as often as I should...

Thanks, too, for the peaceful weekend wishes. I hope you have the same! :)

V-240
04-07-2007, 01:21 PM
Ack! That's funny about the nuking of the cat food. A funny thing like that happened here, only worse! My mom brings her dog when she visits here, and stores opened dog food cans in the fridge to keep fresh. Then she will put it in the oven later to heat it up. Why the dog can't eat room temp dog food I dunno.

Anyway, once she stuck the can in the oven and didn't turn it on. Then she forgot about it. Then she went home. A week later, I turned it on to pre-heat, not looking inside. A few minutes later, bLeCcChHhHh!!! Not only was the dog food sizzling and spattering, it had also turned moldy while it was sitting in there, so .... eeeeYYUCCCKKK!!! I opened all the windows in the house, turned on all the fans and use big tongs to remove the sizzling smoking stinking can from the oven and place it at the far end of the back yard to cool off. Totally ruined my lunch plans! :eek: http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif

emmie
04-07-2007, 01:37 PM
Oh boy, and I thought the nuked DRY catfood couldn't have been any worse! :eek: If that had happened to me, I probably would have had to move out!!

I have melted bags of tortilla chips and crackers (I store crisp stuff in the oven during the summer months to keep them from getting soggy) by not looking before I preheated. Now that's a mess!

Luvdogs
04-07-2007, 02:30 PM
Oh these dog and cat food stories are too funny!

Ok, what do you think about this: I just put bags in the back of my car from Target (and Macy's Emma, cute top found!) and found a jug of OJ I bought, ummmm, a few days ago :( Not opened but do you think I should toss it?

p.s. Thanks Lucy! I'm aout to start a slow cut for competition July 14th!

emmie
04-07-2007, 02:44 PM
Ok, what do you think about this: I just put bags in the back of my car from Target (and Macy's Emma, cute top found!) and found a jug of OJ I bought, ummmm, a few days ago :( Not opened but do you think I should toss it?
How warm has it been where you are? Is the carton even slightly bloated? My inclination would be to toss it. R., on the other hand, would drink it without a thought. If it's pasteurized, it *might* be o.k.

Luvdogs
04-07-2007, 02:50 PM
It's been in the mid 70's and it is pasturized but the container says keep refrigerated. I'd toss too, Buzz might say it's ok. Better 3.98 wasted and wasting time on the potty! :D

kimsquit
04-07-2007, 02:51 PM
happy Easter, Em :)

~ Chris

jmc53
04-07-2007, 03:13 PM
Hi Emma, I use McAfee, and while I've been happy with it, I do frequently get those annoying and seemingly pointless warning pop-ups.
Enjoy the weekend off.

tatdawg
04-07-2007, 03:17 PM
afternoon sweetie. i ain't left the house all day and z and i are fixin to hunker down and watch horror movies.

emmie
04-07-2007, 03:21 PM
It's been in the mid 70's and it is pasturized but the container says keep refrigerated. I'd toss too, Buzz might say it's ok. Better 3.98 wasted and wasting time on the potty! :D
Toss it before Buzz has a chance to weigh in - that's what I'd do! :D

R and I have had some vigorous "discussions" about eating food that's spoiled, or heading towards it. He will not throw out anything until it's crawling with visible life! According to him, bacteria is something that only crack-pots like me worry about. I've got to say, for all of the gross stuff he's eaten, he has never once become ill or had any untoward symptom.

emmie
04-07-2007, 03:29 PM
happy Easter, Em :)

~ ChrisHiya Chris! Aren't you supposed to be nicely settled into Al Italia's cheap-o seats right now??


Hi Emma, I use McAfee, and while I've been happy with it, I do frequently get those annoying and seemingly pointless warning pop-ups.
Enjoy the weekend off.Hi Jason - It's a luxury to just be able to do nothing, and do it at a leisurely pace this weekend! :)

I sent an e-mail requesting a refund for the Norton. I'll download the free Avast (??) once I get confirmation of the refund. I just use the McAfee SiteAdvisor - it flags websites on the google page w/ a green or red icon. I think it's more geared towards spammers and phishers. I haven't gotten any popups from them. Norton is the prime offender.


afternoon sweetie. i ain't left the house all day and z and i are fixin to hunker down and watch horror movies.That sounds like a pretty nice place to be! I am trying to drag myself out of the house, but I can't think of anywhere to go! How pathetic is that!?! I get antsy when I'm home for too long. I have already eaten my bodyweight in green beans, asparagus, and carrots - a sure sign that I need to GET OUT OF HERE!! Hum.... Maybe I'll go out and rent a movie - nothing horrific, though!

kimsquit
04-07-2007, 03:38 PM
Hiya Chris! Aren't you supposed to be nicely settled into Al Italia's cheap-o seats right now??I'm flying Italy's other national airline: Genitalia

:p

emmie
04-07-2007, 03:42 PM
I'm flying Italy's other national airline: Genitalia

:p
That's it...I'm coming out there to hug you! That's the funniest f*cking thing I've heard all week!! And I can't even rep you for it! :mad:

kimsquit
04-07-2007, 03:56 PM
*chuckle* how about you & Mr Emma come on up to Montreal in the summer of 2008 and hug me at my comp instead? :)

emmie
04-07-2007, 04:00 PM
*chuckle* how about you & Mr Emma come on up to Montreal in the summer of 2008 and hug me at my comp instead? :)You're going to be wearing a small pair of posing briefs, correct?? In that case, I'm leaving Mr. Emma at HOME!! ;)

Lucky K
04-07-2007, 04:06 PM
I'm flying Italy's other national airline: Genitalia

:p

Damnit! I must spread some $hit around before giving to Kimsquit again!:D
ROFLMAO!

Lucky K
04-07-2007, 04:09 PM
You're going to be wearing a small pair of posing briefs, correct?? In that case, I'm leaving Mr. Emma at HOME!! ;)

Double Damnit!! I must spread it around to people other thna you too Emma! I'm gonna go be a rep whore....think there's a limit?:D Or do you end up with some sort of rep std's?:)

V-240
04-07-2007, 04:33 PM
AH-Hahaha!!! ROFLMAO... I repped him for you, with my mighty rep power of 28! :cool:

jmc53
04-07-2007, 04:33 PM
I got him for you!

Double Damnit!! I must spread it around to people other thna you too Emma! I'm gonna go be a rep whore....think there's a limit?:D Or do you end up with some sort of rep std's?:)
It's a pain. I've discovered that every few days I have to troll through the O/35 section and rep anyone that can put a sentence together in order to be able to rep the people I want in the journals.

emmie
04-07-2007, 04:37 PM
Thanks Blabber and Scott! I can't rep you two, either! :mad: Guess I'll have to go to the Misc. section and spread myself around so I can come back recharged! :D

Lucky K
04-07-2007, 04:44 PM
Thanks Blabber and Scott! I can't rep you two, either! :mad: Guess I'll have to go to the Misc. section and spread myself around so I can come back recharged! :D

That's like going to the bars in a college town:D

justtryn
04-07-2007, 05:03 PM
Hi emmie!

V-240
04-07-2007, 05:05 PM
That's like going to the bars in a college town:DBWAH-hahaha!! Reps for that one, too. You guys are on FIRE today! :)

Lucky K
04-07-2007, 05:14 PM
BWAH-hahaha!! Reps for that one, too. You guys are on FIRE today! :)

E's got a whole weekend off, and I had a massage....getting my a$$ rubbed always puts me in a good mood!:D

tatdawg
04-07-2007, 05:19 PM
ok i see it's y'alls night to act the fool. i am staying out of this one. i had my fill last night.

V-240
04-07-2007, 05:40 PM
Damn, all this talk of Genitalia, massages, chocolate, spreading onesself around and rubbed a$$e$...

*PHEW* I think I need a cigarette! ;)

Lucky K
04-07-2007, 05:41 PM
Damn, all this talk of Genitalia, massages, chocolate, spreading onesself around and rubbed a$$e$...

*PHEW* I think I need a cigarette! ;)

Just stay away from the schnapps:D

StlBarbie
04-07-2007, 08:09 PM
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Have a wonderful holiday Emmie!! :)

Buffycat3
04-08-2007, 03:56 AM
Hi Emmie :)
Your journal surely has matured into froclic and fun :D
Happy to see you're having a good time!

tatdawg
04-08-2007, 04:49 AM
mornin emma,the coffees on. boy would i love a big ol cathead bisquit with a slab of fried country ham and red eye gravy and a big ol bowl of grits.

emmie
04-08-2007, 05:23 AM
Hi Emmie
Your journal surely has matured into froclic and fun :D
Happy to see you're having a good time!Hi Joan - I'm not sure about the "maturing" part, but I'm having a great time! :D As you can see, I've once again used your reverse pyramid scheme. I really enjoy it! Do you feel that you've gotten good results with it?


mornin emma,the coffees on. boy would i love a big ol cathead bisquit with a slab of fried country ham and red eye gravy and a big ol bowl of grits.Um....I don't think I can help you. How about some oatmeal instead?!?!


CHEST + BICEPS

** All sets done w/ a reverse pyramid rep scheme. **

Flat BB Bench:
76# 7
68# 10
64# 12
54# 15
50# 20

Slight Incline DB Press:
40# DBs 7
35# DBs 10
30# DBs 12
24# DBs 18

Slight Incline Flys:
35# DBs 7
30# DBs 10
24# DBs 15
20# DBs 20

EZ Curls:
60# 7
54# 10
50# 12
40# 15

EZ Preachers:
50# 9
44# 13
40# 15
40# 20 No that's not a typo, I did 2 sets @ 40#

:rolleyes: I could have used a pit crew to help load and re-load the bar on those EZs!

Standing Hammer Curls:
24# DBs 8
20# DBs 11
15# DBs 18

Decline Push-Ups: 18/15/12

It's been a while since my biceps felt as fatigued as they did after this. :D I am icing my forearm - right under the elbow - where I feel my tendonitis from the Fall is starting to rear its head again. Not good! After it was injured I did ZERO bicep work for almost 3 months. :(

It was my mom's birthday on Thursday so we're going to go out for lunch today - Indian food. I've already scanned the menu to see if there will be any Emma-friendly food. Found one thing: Green salad. :cool:

If it's not too cold I might go out and take a walk. Don't particularly *need* it, but we'll see if I still feel that way after lunch.

tatdawg
04-08-2007, 05:32 AM
dang girl, standing hammer curls 18 reps with 215#dbs. pretty fair:D
just joking i figure it is a typo or a ploy to see if anyone is paying attention. you are a sly one. :D for real good workout top to bottom and you use about the same weight as me. you know you really are pretty strong. pound for pound i can't hang with you.much respect to you.

emmie
04-08-2007, 05:41 AM
dang girl, standing hammer curls 18 reps with 215#dbs. pretty fair:D
just joking i figure it is a typo or a ploy to see if anyone is paying attention. you are a sly one. :D for real good workout top to bottom and you use about the same weight as me. you know you really are pretty strong. pound for pound i can't hang with you.much respect to you.
For sure that was a typo, thanks for catching it! :eek: Joan had one in her journal the other day: 60# curls for 50 reps. And at first I didn't think it was a typo - talk about one strong woman!

Thanks for your nice comments, Tat! Last time I checked your workouts you were lifting signifiantly more than me....:cool: Compliment taken, however!

tatdawg
04-08-2007, 05:47 AM
adjusting for the difference in bodyweight and there ain't much difference. that is what tells how strong you are. i look at the numbers you, barbie, hibby, chocochick put up. and we won't even talk about titania and blonde amazon. all in all a lot of super strong females here.

Luvdogs
04-08-2007, 09:17 AM
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Happy Easter Emma!

You are hammering them thar weights!

I LOVE Indian food! I can't be trusted in an Indian restaurant until after contest, I love nan (the flat bread), so good! My "little" brother (6'3" and 275 lbs, but I changed his diapers!!) and I are the only ones in my family like like Indian food and we had a place we went to and it was our "brother/sister" date spot. Those days are gone though.

emmie
04-08-2007, 12:25 PM
Hi Julia - I like Indian food, too. Sometimes it can be on the oily side, but this place does a nice job. They had something called egg curry - it was whole hardboiled eggs in a curry sauce. Weird-sounding, but really good. I scraped off the sauce and ditched the yolks, but the white was so flavorful! I did have some naan - fresh out of the oven, and it wasn't brushed with ghee the way it usually is. And some paneer which they had crumbled so it looked like scrambled eggs - that was pretty good. (This was a buffet, by the way.) They had a nice huge bowl of mesclun greens, so I heaped my plate with that before I hit the "real" food. Didn't do too much damage at all, I am releived to report. We still have some goat cheese to eat tonight! :D It had been a while since I had had anything even remotely as spicy and flavorful as this meal, so it tasted really good.

Can't believe it - Target and TJ Maxx were closed today; the huge grocery store closed at 3 today. WTF??!? Really pissed me off.

ChocoChick
04-08-2007, 01:59 PM
Hey Emma. I love Indian food. Actually, I think I love all food! :eek:

tatdawg
04-09-2007, 02:25 AM
mornin emma. boo its monday.

ChocoChick
04-09-2007, 02:36 AM
Hi Emma, are you working today? I can't keep up with your schedule!

Happy Monday. Well, as happy as it can be, that is.

emmie
04-09-2007, 03:31 AM
BACK + TRICEPS

** Most sets done w/ a reverse pyramid rep scheme. **

BB row:
98# 7
90# 9
80# 12
70# 15

superset w/

LyingIncline DB Row:
30# DBs 4 x 10

Weighted Bench Dips (legs on bench): 18/17/16

:rolleyes: Did these above exercises at home.

Wide-Grip Pulldown:
110# 9
100# 11
90# 10 - TIRED!
80# 15

v-Bar Pulldown:
100# 8
90 10
80# 12
80# 12 No that's not a typo, I did 2 sets @ 80#

Straight Bar Triceps Pulldown:
110# 8
105# 10
95# 14
85# 16

OH Rope Extentions:
85# 9
75 11
65# 14 Shoulder starting to feel strained.

Assisted Chins: 50# assist 12 40# assist8/6

My upper body felt really fatigued this morning. Not sore, but simply not as strong as usual. Pleased with the workout, nonetheless.

Tat+ Elise: Yes, it's Monday. Yes, I'm working. Yes, I'm unenthused. That's about the best I say about the situation. :cool:

This is the last week that I am working the day shift. I am anxious about making the schedule switch - mostly anxious about my new co-workers - so I think part of my lackluster attitude this a.m. is due to that. Anyhoo...

Hope you nice people have a good day today!

ChocoChick
04-09-2007, 04:23 AM
This is the last week that I am working the day shift. I am anxious about making the schedule switch - mostly anxious about my new co-workers - so I think part of my lackluster attitude this a.m. is due to that. Anyhoo...


Are you moving to nights? Or to overnights? And is the move permanent or will you be rotating? What does R do and what is his schedule like?

I would have a hard time working nights as I tend to want to work before I can play, and that would be backwards. I suppose I'd get used to it; people do.

wedgey
04-09-2007, 04:33 AM
Hi Emma , awesome workouts :thumbsup:
Hope you're having a cruisy day :D

moisy
04-09-2007, 05:32 AM
Good morning ... hope you had a nice weekend ;)

The Indian food sounded great ... I am a big fan of it too ... just have not found a place around here to go. I used to love going to a few spots in downtown Toronto when I lived down there - would often meet my parents on a sunday afternoon after they went to church - they would drive down to a place near me and we would go out ;) I miss that! :(

I hope all goes well with the new shift ... I do think that you mentioned that. I am sure the new co workers will be nice :) Or I hope they are for your sake!!!! lol :eek:

StlBarbie
04-09-2007, 05:56 AM
OH . I love Indian food .. YUM!!
Then again, I love Chinese, Thai, Turkish, and Italian, as well ... :eek:

Best of luck with the new shift Emmie!!!

AND GREAT JOB on the REVERSE PYRAMIDING!!! :)

Hibiscus09
04-09-2007, 06:40 AM
Nice workouts, Emma!! It looks like you're doing really well with the reverse pyramiding! I've never tried to do that. Anything Joan does, however, must be good to do -- she definitely has some beautiful muscles! :)

I love all food except for liver and beets. I think that's the only two items I've found that I don't like to eat. :p

Happy Monday!!

Luvdogs
04-09-2007, 08:52 AM
Happy Monday Emma! That was a way strong workout! Awesome Lat pull downs and BB rows :D Your strength is really increasing!

emmie
04-09-2007, 01:59 PM
Are you moving to nights? Or to overnights? And is the move permanent or will you be rotating? What does R do and what is his schedule like?
I'm working evenings, 4-midnight. It's a permanent move, as far as I know. A couple of girls are sharing a rotating shift, but I think I would prefer to haveone set shift, rather than trying to juggle schedules from day to day.

R. works the same schedule (3-11 ish) in a different field. We have never had coordinated schedules. It will be different.....We get along so well when we never see each other! :D


Hi Emma , awesome workouts :thumbsup:
Hope you're having a cruisy day.Thanks, Shaun! It was on the cruisy side! Kind of boring at times, actually. I'm sure I've just cursed myself and I'll be in for a hellacious day tomorrow! :p


I hope all goes well with the new shift ... I do think that you mentioned that. I am sure the new co workers will be nice Or I hope they are for your sake!!!! lol
They have all been perfectly pleasant so far - it seems like a younger (compared to the day shift), more joke-y, loud crowd. I'm keeping an open mind. I do know 4 of the people who regularly work evenings, and they are VERY nice and helpful. And un-loud!

Best of luck with the new shift Emmie!!!

AND GREAT JOB on the REVERSE PYRAMIDING!!! Thanks, Barb! This rep scheme is fun....for the moment! Just sort of breaks the monotony of straight sets. We'll see if it yields any results!


Anything Joan does, however, must be good to do -- she definitely has some beautiful muscles! :)Amen to that!!


I love all food except for liver and beets. I think that's the only two items I've found that I don't like to eat. :p

Happy Monday!!I'll take your beets! :) I shall refrain from comment on liver....


Happy Monday Emma! That was a way strong workout! Awesome Lat pull downs and BB rows :D Your strength is really increasing!Thanks, Julia! Some days I feel strong, and other days not so. Today was a not-so day, but your comment makes me feel great!

tatdawg
04-09-2007, 04:05 PM
good luck on your new shift sweetie. but when will you be able to talk to us here?:confused:

Lucky K
04-10-2007, 12:24 AM
You look real strong on your wide grip pulldowns! Good workout! Come to think of it, your assisted pull-ups were really strong considering you did them at the end of your workout!:)

When's your next day off?:D

Buffycat3
04-10-2007, 12:55 AM
Hi Emmie:)

I agree with everyone...You had a very good and Strong w/o.

I hope the 4-11 shift is a permanant one for you.
I don't think I would be able to handle a rotating work shift....I KNOW I wouldn't!
Another reason I hope you are made permanant, is so that you and R can reamain 'getting along' ;)

Have a great day!

emmie
04-10-2007, 01:41 AM
good luck on your new shift sweetie. but when will you be able to talk to us here?Thanks. I actually have my first day NEXT Thursday, so there's still time for me to get used to the idea. Not sure when I'll post on here. In the mornings when I get up, and probably at some point before I go in at 3:45 or so.

I'm back to trying to stay off the computer past 6 p.m. It screws up my sleep. And I was reading something about how the light from the comp. screen tricks your mind into thinking it's still daytime. Not good for someone with insomnia like me. The past 2 nights I've shut it off early, and I've slept through the whole night.


You look real strong on your wide grip pulldowns! Good workout! Come to think of it, your assisted pull-ups were really strong considering you did them at the end of your workout!:)

When's your next day off?:DThanks, K!. The assisted chin-ups didn't feel strong! I am off on Friday. Then I work Sat, Sun, and Mon. Then I'm off Tues. and Wed. I am working the next 2 weekends.:( Not sure how that happened, since I told her I didn't want to do every weekend. I'll leave it for now, but if it happens again I'll have to remind her.


Hi Emmie
I agree with everyone...You had a very good and Strong w/o.

I hope the 4-11 shift is a permanant one for you.
I don't think I would be able to handle a rotating work shift....I KNOW I wouldn't!
Another reason I hope you are made permanant, is so that you and R can reamain 'getting along' ;)

Have a great day!Thanks you Joan! The 4-midnight is definitely permanent unless someone quits on the day shift and I can out-arm wrestle (or whatever) the people with more seniority than me (i.e. EVERYONE! :p) for that position. <Maybe someone will retire soon! There are a couple who could.... I am not interested in a rotating shift. Too chaotic to my "real" schedule - sleep and workouts! :D

Grabbing my diet coke and heading to the gym now for cardio. Did abs as soon as I woke up.

jmc53
04-10-2007, 01:43 AM
Hi Emma,
Those are two nice sessions you did while I was offline.
I really like the look of your workouts.
I hope the shift change works for you. In a previous relationship of mine we both worked nights - and it was great to have our days free to do things while other people were at work.

tatdawg
04-10-2007, 02:46 AM
mornin emma

moisy
04-10-2007, 04:35 AM
Good morning Emma :)

So you are moving to the dark side and working afternoon/nights!! lol ;) I guess the good thing is that it is not rotating ... D's shifts rotate and it can be a pain and hard to adjust to for the first little bit especially the nights from 6pm to 6am!! :eek: And you and R are basically working the same time so that does mean more time together ;)

I hope that your sleep patterns do not get too messed up ... in fact, maybe it will be the opposite and they will be better with a set routine and coming home exhausted, you should just fall into bed!! :)

Have a good cardio ... hope the diet coke helped!! lol

ChocoChick
04-10-2007, 11:20 AM
Good luck with the new schedule. And have fun with all that extra time with R. ;)

emmie
04-10-2007, 02:09 PM
I hope the shift change works for you. In a previous relationship of mine we both worked nights - and it was great to have our days free to do things while other people were at work.


And you and R are basically working the same time so that does mean more time together ;)



Good luck with the new schedule. And have fun with all that extra time with R. ;)

Even though we will have basically the same schedule, it's not going to make much difference in how much time we spend with each other. We both are very independent. R. has a set schedule for himself during the day before he goes to his job, and I will have mine. I like being able to do whatever I want without having to consider someone else, and so does he. We like it this way. I really wasn't kidding when I said we get along so well when see don't see each very other much. It's been this way for the entirety of our relationship, and it works! :)

So I predicted that after yesterday's "cruisy" day that today would be a nightmare....and it was. Chaotic, unpleasant, and frenzied. It calmed down a bit in the afternoon, but this morning I didn't know whether I was coming or going. This guy needs labs drawn, this one needs to go to x-ray, now the other one needs IV meds, now the other one is soiling himself. Again. And then one of them started ordering me to drop what I was doing and come over and open his milk carton - "hey! come here and open my milk!!" - about 15 times. That DID NOT fly well with me.:mad: Shoot me if I ever get to the point that I am a sour, miserable, belligerant 83 year-old!! I am happy to put this day behind me!

Hibiscus09
04-10-2007, 02:23 PM
Yikes -- I'm sure that does get trying at times! :p I hope your tomorrow is much better!! :)

Luvdogs
04-10-2007, 02:52 PM
Just flex your bicep at him and tell him you'll "give it to him" if he acts up again! Ok, maybe you can't do that, but you can think it!

emmie
04-10-2007, 03:09 PM
Yikes -- I'm sure that does get trying at times! :p I hope your tomorrow is much better!! :)You and me both, sister!!


Just flex your bicep at him and tell him you'll "give it to him" if he acts up again! Ok, maybe you can't do that, but you can think it!Oh believe me, Julia - I though it....and much worse!! I did tell him that I didn't appreciate being spoken to in that way and that I would be with him when I was finished with the other patient. He's lucky [and I'm lucky :eek:] that that's all I said! Most of the time I have a good amount of patience, but when I get stressed out and tense, my patience goes down the toilet.

jocularric
04-10-2007, 03:34 PM
Lady Emma thy wielding do prove thee strong. Nay doubt 'tis a value when thou doth encounter sour, miserable, belligerent trolls. Perchance thou couldest strike a most muscular stance and sayth, "Don't make me angry, you won't like me when I'm angry." Gritting thy teeth and a shade of green doth help. Thou, nay doubt, wilt be inspired and wilt choose wisely. Godspeed Milady.

tatdawg
04-10-2007, 03:43 PM
doing the job you are doing wil really put you to the test but it will build charactor also. you have my utmost respect for doing that job. may god bless you and give you patience to deal with these people as they struggle and suffer.

ChocoChick
04-10-2007, 04:05 PM
I'm sorry you had a tough day. I admire you for what you do - I don't think I could do it.


Shoot me if I ever get to the point that I am a sour, miserable, belligerant 83 year-old!! I am happy to put this day behind me!

This made me LOL as this is pretty much what I tell my kids whenever we run into one of the cranky old people Florida is famous for "Shoot me if I ever get like that!"

Lucky K
04-11-2007, 12:15 AM
And on to the next day, ahhhh:) Hopefully your 2 weekends in a row will mean 2 off in a row:) I agree with too much togetherness being too much! When we work the same shifts and have the same days off, we drive each other nuts! I value my alone time, and we have more fun when we do see each other:D Hope you had a good nights sleep!

emmie
04-11-2007, 01:34 AM
Lady Emma thy wielding do prove thee strong. Nay doubt 'tis a value when thou doth encounter sour, miserable, belligerent trolls. Perchance thou couldest strike a most muscular stance and sayth, "Don't make me angry, you won't like me when I'm angry." Gritting thy teeth and a shade of green doth help. Thou, nay doubt, wilt be inspired and wilt choose wisely. Godspeed Milady.Oh Ric, this put a huge smile on my face! Trolls indeed!! Much as I would like to strike a viscious-looking stance, three words tend to keep me in line: assault, battery, and malpractice! :eek:


doing the job you are doing wil really put you to the test but it will build charactor also. you have my utmost respect for doing that job. may god bless you and give you patience to deal with these people as they struggle and suffer.Thanks. I try to treat people as I would like to be treated if I were in their situation. Sometimes it is very hard. Especially hard to not be judgemental - that's probably the toughest thing for me.


When we work the same shifts and have the same days off, we drive each other nuts! I value my alone time, and we have more fun when we do see each other:D I knew that YOU would understand! ;) We enjoy each others' company much more when we've had the time to do the things that we each like to do - alone!

jmc53
04-11-2007, 01:46 AM
Hi Emma,
I wouldn't mind betting that some of those sour miserable belligerent 83 years-olds are ex-golfers. Every club I've been at has a hard core of grumpy old men and women. At my club we openly refer to them as the "grumpies" and they answer to that name.
When does the shift change kick in?

tatdawg
04-11-2007, 02:28 AM
mornin emma. hope you have a great day.:)

emmie
04-11-2007, 03:32 AM
I'm sorry you had a tough day. I admire you for what you do - I don't think I could do it.Well thanks. I'm sure you could do it....but you might not want to! I feel that way about children - having them, interacting with them, working with them: Better someone else than me!


Hi Emma,
I wouldn't mind betting that some of those sour miserable belligerent 83 years-olds are ex-golfers. Every club I've been at has a hard core of grumpy old men and women. At my club we openly refer to them as the "grumpies" and they answer to that name.
When does the shift change kick in?Part of me figures that they've lived 80+ years and they have earned the right to be cranky. (Hell, I'm only 37 and I exploit my right to be cranky, earned or not. :p) Cranky with a little bit of humor or self-awareness goes a lot farther than just plain old cranky. I'll probably have this guy again today - I'll ask about golfing and report back to you!

New shift starts a week from tomorrow.


mornin emma. hope you have a great day.:)I'm planning on it, my friend! I wasn't going to go to the gym this a.m. because I was just tired out, but I knew that it would make me feel better. I was on the treadmill and first I imagined myself walking AWAY from yesterday, and then after a bit I imagined myself walking TOWARDS a good day today. Sounds goofy, but it seemed to have worked. Either that, or the caffeine from my diet coke and cup of tea have kicked in and brought their mood-enhancing benefits! :)

Leg day tomorrow. I have been trying to stretch my hamstrings every day this week in anticipation of SLDLs. I am sore for 5 days, minimum, from those and I think it's plain old pulled muscles, not so much DOMS, that's at play. May also try to limit my ROM a little, and not lower myself as far down. We'll see. I haven't checked out the workout yet, but if memory serves, it's a 3 x 10 rep scheme.

Have a great Wednesday, nice people!

SeaSiren
04-11-2007, 04:15 AM
I was on the treadmill and first I imagined myself walking AWAY from yesterday, and then after a bit I imagined myself walking TOWARDS a good day today. Sounds goofy, but it seemed to have worked.

I've not thought of it like that before. I think I may use that :)

Happy Wednesday!

moisy
04-11-2007, 04:50 AM
Good morning :)

I certainly hope that today goes more smoothly than yesterday ... it did not sound that pleasant! :eek: There is a fine line between staying calm and then totally losing it especially when dealing with the elderly or kids!! lol But you did manage to tough it out and stay patient ... which I am sure took TONS of energy and will power on your part!

Be good to yourself today, have a great workout and kick some butt in the gym to relieve some work stress!! :D

ChocoChick
04-11-2007, 05:16 AM
But you did manage to tough it out and stay patient ... which I am sure took TONS of energy and will power on your part!

But did it count as cardio? :D

Morning, Emma!

StlBarbie
04-11-2007, 06:45 AM
Hi Emmie!!!
WOW ... really, that is a tough job .. mentally and physically ....
KUDOS to you for doing it!!! :)

Hope you have a wonderful day today!! :)

wedgey
04-11-2007, 07:30 AM
Hi Emma, hope you have a good day at work, I know I couldn't do your job. I'm just glad I don't have to deal with Joe public in my job, he's a real bastard :p

jocularric
04-11-2007, 07:35 AM
Oh Ric, this put a huge smile on my face! Trolls indeed!! Much as I would like to strike a viscious-looking stance, three words tend to keep me in line: assault, battery, and malpractice! :eek:

Thanks. I try to treat people as I would like to be treated if I were in their situation. Sometimes it is very hard. Especially hard to not be judgemental - that's probably the toughest thing for me.
Thou art wise as thou art strong Milady. It has been written "a soft answer turneth away wrath." Thy bridling of thy tongue doth show great strength. Milady, thou didst choose a kinder gentler path. :)


But did it count as cardio?
Lady Elise maketh me to laugh most heartedly. :D

Luvdogs
04-11-2007, 01:48 PM
Happy HuMp day Emma! I hope today turned out great!

All of my appts showed this morning :D And on time!

emmie
04-11-2007, 02:59 PM
I've not thought of it like that before. I think I may use that.

Happy Wednesday!Hi SeaSiren - thanks for stopping by! It actually seemed to work, as I had a great day today! More and more I am coming to see that it's not the situation, but my attitude that determines the outcome.


There is a fine line between staying calm and then totally losing it especially when dealing with the elderly or kids!! lol But you did manage to tough it out and stay patient ... which I am sure took TONS of energy and will power on your part! You said it! And you'd know, too! I had the same two guys today. The crusty old troll was discharged in the morning, but I killed him with kindness until he left. And although he complained bitterly up until he was wheeled off, he did concede that that the "staff was very, very nice". SCORE!! :D The other guy is detoxing, so today he was much improved from yesterday, and was rather sweet. I'm actually looking forward to taking care of him again tomorrow.


But did it count as cardio?
It felt like cardio! I'm telling you, yesterday my HR was up the from dashing around, and/or stress.


Hi Emmie!!!
WOW ... really, that is a tough job .. mentally and physically ....
KUDOS to you for doing it!!!

Hope you have a wonderful day today!! Thanks, Barb! You'd know a thing or two about needing patience! ;)


I'm just glad I don't have to deal with Joe public in my job, he's a real bastard Yup, and he's got lots of relatives all over the world! :p


Thou art wise as thou art strong Milady. It has been written "a soft answer turneth away wrath." Thy bridling of thy tongue doth show great strength. Milady, thou didst choose a kinder gentler path.
Thanks, Ric! I hope I remember this BEFORE I get myself in a lather next time! Probably won't though! :p


Happy HuMp day Emma! I hope today turned out great!

All of my appts showed this morning And on time!Sounds like you're having a good day, too!

Thanks for all of the supportive comments, nice people!! :)
I probably wont get to everyone's journal because I've got to study for a TEST tomorrow.:( Can't express how utterly unmotivated I am to sit down with the material (EKG interpretation). I just want to play!!

moisy
04-11-2007, 04:30 PM
Good luck with the test tomorrow ... I am SURE you will do great!!! :D

And the good news too ... is that the weekend is almost here ... and you know what that means ... wine and cheese for Emma and R!! :p ;)

ChocoChick
04-11-2007, 04:34 PM
Congrats on turning the crusty old troll around. And good luck on the test tomorrow. When I get sick, I am going to call for you personally!

tatdawg
04-11-2007, 04:57 PM
[QUOTE=emmie;33860851] More and more I am coming to see that it's not the situation, but my attitude that determines the outcome.

QUOTE]

boy what a statement. i will try to remember that in my daily struggle at my job. that should be put in your sig. best of luck on the test too sweetie.

StlBarbie
04-11-2007, 06:32 PM
Best of Luck on your test NURSE EMMIE!!! :)

jocularric
04-11-2007, 10:58 PM
More and more I am coming to see that it's not the situation, but my attitude that determines the outcome.

Thanks for all of the supportive comments, nice people!! :)
I probably wont get to everyone's journal because I've got to study for a TEST tomorrow.:( Can't express how utterly unmotivated I am to sit down with the material (EKG interpretation). I just want to play!!
Thou art wise beyond thy years Milady.

Godspeed and God ye good den thy proving grounds.

tatdawg
04-12-2007, 02:28 AM
mornin emma

emmie
04-12-2007, 03:11 AM
Good Morning and thanks for the well-wishes for the test! :) It's in the hospital's interest that I know this stuff, so I hope that they will be forgiving if I fail it miserably and have to take it again. A real possibility!

Started off the dreaded leg day the right way: I overslept by 35 minutes! :eek: I was sort of half-asleep and wondering why my alarm hadn't gone off yet when I thought to look at the clock and found it buried waaaay under my pillow - hey, who did that??!? Quickly modified my plans - do legs at home - and got to work.

Today's Killer Quad scheme was to be 3 x 8. yesterday I thought that I'd probably do 4 x 10-12 reps instead, but in light of today's oversleeping, 3 x 8 sounded pretty good! :p

"LEGS"

DB SQUATS: 98# (40# DBs, 4# wrist weights, and a backpack with a 10# plate in it. :)) 3 x 8 Most I've ever squatted, in any form.

WALKING LUNGES: 30# DBs 3 x 8 each leg Was supposed to do hack squats here.

SLDL: 110# 3 x 10

LYING LEG CURL: 39# 8/8/6 I was supposed to do 2 x 20 of leg extentions, but the leg ext. attachment for this bench is unreliable.

** A couple of people had suggested that I point my toes when I do this exercise, so I tried it. I couldn't do a single rep with this weight if I pointed my toes. Am I truly this weak?? Or can I blame the rinky-dink leg attachment w/ it's non-ergonomic design????!?? **

STANDING CALF RAISES: 60# 3 x 20

Not a tip-top workout, but I am more concerned with doing some more studying this morning, so it will have to do.

I was supposed to be off tomorrow, but my mgr. asked me to come in, so I'll have Saturday off instead. Guess that's o.k. On Sunday my MIL is coming to visit, and she, my folks, and R. are going to see a play in the afternoon and go out to dinner in the evening. Pressure's on for me to join them for dinner, but I am standing firm! After being solicitous and attentive to other people all day, the last thing I want to do is have to go out to dinner and be nice and social and talk about my day. Plus I have to work on Monday. Selfish? Yup! :D

jmc53
04-12-2007, 03:32 AM
Congrat's on the squat PB Emma.
Selfish? Nup!

moisy
04-12-2007, 04:28 AM
Excellent work on the squats!! :D

And excellent work on standing your ground about reserving some "you" time!! :D

At the end of a work week, I find that I need some down time too just for myself to regroup ... and you like me work with people all day so it is so important to have good alone time ;)

Good luck with the test ... I am sure you will ace it!!!! :) :)

wubby
04-12-2007, 05:10 AM
Nice workout Emmie, but I am even more impressed by the flexibility. After oversleeping and then jumping right to it and adapting the workout to fit the time you have. Changing workout plans on the fly can really throw me off sometimes - other times I it can be really refreshing (but usually it is the former).

Luvdogs
04-12-2007, 08:49 AM
I am impressed with how inventive you were to get the weight with all those add on's :D

I don't like lying leg curls either so I don't do them. I feel hammies get a great workout with SLDL, weighted hypers, glute-ham raise and seated curls.

You'll do great on teh test, you are one smart cookie!

Lucky K
04-12-2007, 12:11 PM
Next thing you know, there'll be a gallon of milk and a few other heavy items in that back pack:) Fantastic job!!!:D

ChocoChick
04-12-2007, 12:12 PM
Hi Emma, how did the test go? When will you have results?

emmie
04-12-2007, 02:13 PM
Congrat's on the squat PB Emma.
Selfish? Nup!
Thanks, Jason! It felt good to actually increase the weight and be able to manage it!

I feel like I'll be doing my parents and MIL a service by not ruining their meal with my cranky presence.

At the end of a work week, I find that I need some down time too just for myself to regroup ... and you like me work with people all day so it is so important to have good alone time.
You need it at the end of the work week.....I need it at the end of EVERY SINGLE WORK DAY!! :eek: I agree, time alone for me is time very well spent. 'Course much of it is spent here with my e-pals! :)


Nice workout Emmie, but I am even more impressed by the flexibility. After oversleeping and then jumping right to it and adapting the workout to fit the time you have. Changing workout plans on the fly can really throw me off sometimes - other times I it can be really refreshing (but usually it is the former).Hi Wubby - thanks for stopping in! Generally I am not someone who can switch plans without having a lot of notice, but this schedule forces me to workout before I go to work, or not work out at all. Skipping a WO is rarely an option I give myself. Just had to get it done! Having weight equip. at home can be a real help.


I am impressed with how inventive you were to get the weight with all those add on's :DYou know, I was kind of pleased with my quick-thinking, too! I'm glad that the backpack wasn't as cumbersome as I had thought it would be. Definitely room to add more stuff in there!


Next thing you know, there'll be a gallon of milk and a few other heavy items in that back pack. Fantastic job!!!:DThanks, Kristen! I feel like I've extended the life of my DB squats by using this. But don't tell R - I was using his backpack (unceremoniously dumped his stuff on the floor :p).

Hi Emma, how did the test go? When will you have results?Test went....well, it went o.k. I passed, but it was tough. And it wasn't really a "satisfying" test, in that I don't feel like I have a grasp on the material. I know it takes years of practice to be able to accurately and quickly interpret rhythms, but I want to know it all NOW! (But I don't want to have to do any more studying. :o)

My glutes and legs are starting to get sore, and that's a nice feeling. That mildly sore, tight feeling is the sort of DOMS I like. Plan to train shoulders and do abs tomorrow. Cardio Sat. and Sunday.

Have a nice evening, nice people!

tatdawg
04-12-2007, 03:55 PM
good news on the test and you got those danged ol legs done to. good for you.:)

moisy
04-12-2007, 05:07 PM
I am glad to hear that you passed the test and sorry that it was so hard, but as you said, with time and experience it will all just become second nature to you. ;) :)

And gee, you have got to be way more careful with that ID card of yours ... you should not be so careless leaving it just anywhere!! lol :p You know identity theft is on the rise now!! lol How did Julia get it??? :D

Have a nice evening and enjoy your shoulders and ab workout tomorrow! Yeah too for the DOMS in the legs!! :)

FatherOfThree
04-12-2007, 07:14 PM
Congrats on passing, good wo's as always! (and oh yeah- howdy!)

Luvdogs
04-12-2007, 08:07 PM
Sorry for snagging your ID badge Emma :( My bad :D :D

I know you don't want your face posted on this site, but legs are ok, right? I mean you're clearly in uniform! It's very professional...

jmc53
04-13-2007, 01:16 AM
Emma, you are now possibly the only person on earth who is both a pastry chef and can read an EKG!

emmie
04-13-2007, 01:30 AM
good news on the test and you got those danged ol legs done to. good for you.:)Honestly, I'm almost happier about getting the workout done than passing the damn test. I've got my priorities straight! :p



And gee, you have got to be way more careful with that ID card of yours ... you should not be so careless leaving it just anywhere!! lol You know identity theft is on the rise now!! lol How did Julia get it??? You know, I must have left it in some motel nightstand......Better ask her what she was doing threre! ;)


Congrats on passing, good wo's as always! (and oh yeah- howdy!)WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN??!??!
glad to see you back! :)


Sorry for snagging your ID badge Emma. My bad :D :D

I know you don't want your face posted on this site, but legs are ok, right? I mean you're clearly in uniform! It's very professional...I've found that that particular uniform tends to make the patients especially cooperative!


Emma, you are now possibly the only person on earth who is both a pastry chef and can read an EKG!
Never thought of it that way! Now I can actually see the damage caused by all of those sat. fat-laden treats I used to make!

tatdawg
04-13-2007, 02:25 AM
mornin emma:)

jocularric
04-13-2007, 03:14 AM
A couple of people had suggested that I point my toes when I do this exercise, so I tried it. I couldn't do a single rep with this weight if I pointed my toes. Am I truly this weak?? Or can I blame the rinky-dink leg attachment w/ it's non-ergonomic design????!??
Perchance Milady I mayest remind thee of that which thou doth know.

Think thou back to thy anatomy instruction Milady. One of thy calf muscles 'tis biarticulate and doth assist in knee flexion. Whenst thou doth point (plantar flex) thy toes thy calf (Gastrocnemius) it canst nay assist thy hamstrings. The flexion of thy knee Milady then doth rest upon thy hamstrings. Verily then thou canst move less weight.

And 'tis wondrous well the news of thy proving. Seest thou not that thou art wise? And further ventures in this wilt thy not hone thy skill. Yea verily!.

Milady Emmie Fare thee well!

emmie
04-13-2007, 03:45 AM
Think thou back to thy anatomy instruction Milady. One of thy calf muscles 'tis biarticulate and doth assist in knee flexion. Whenst thou doth point (plantar flex) thy toes thy calf (Gastrocnemius) it canst nay assist thy hamstrings. The flexion of thy knee Milady then doth rest upon thy hamstrings. Verily then thou canst move less weight. So what you're saying is that am weak, is that right??!? :p (By the way, it's no news flash to me!) Thanks for the reminder, Ric. In fact, when I was first shown how to use the seated leg curl - which I prefer - I was instructed to point my toes. I found I could use much more weight if I dorsiflexed them, instead, and that form stuck. I've got a problem with my ego...:o


mornin emma:)Morning, yourself. By the time you red this the wretched workweek will be DONE! :D

SHOULDERS

Seated Overhead Press:
75# 7
70# 9
65# 10
55# 12

Upright Cable Row:
110# 8
100# 11
90# 14
80# 13 Some old guy was hurrying me off of the machine, so I didn't rest my full 60 seconds on the last set. I hurried him off the machine on Monday, so I didn't want to be nasty. This time......

Armpit Rows:
35# DBs 2 x 8
30# DBs[color=red]30# DBs 2 x 10
25# DBs 14 I feel these all along the outside of my upper arm, extending down to my elbow. My whole arm was so pumped and tight after these. :)

Duck Flaps: 20# DBs 4 x 12

Finished with 10 minutes of fast walking on the t-mill to keep my HR up for a bit longer (plus I had some extra time). Abs were done at home as soon as I got up.

Very glad that it's Friday - and that I don't have to work tomorrow! I work Sun and Monday, and then I'm off for 2 days. Looking forward to that!

Have a great day, nice people! :)

jmc53
04-13-2007, 03:55 AM
Hi Emma,
Nice shoulder session.
Is this what you call armpit rows?
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidLateral/DBRaises.html

emmie
04-13-2007, 04:06 AM
Bingo! I was looking to an alternative to DB lateral raises, and this was "advertised" as hitting the medial delts. I don't feel the exercise there exactly - it's more the entire lateral aspect of the arm. It's a weird movement in that I can't really tell which muscles are doing the work! But the arms (including medial delts) feel pumped afterwards. And it's infinitely less odious to me than the DB lateral raises! :p

jmc53
04-13-2007, 04:20 AM
I did them for a while, and I know what you mean. I felt them in my delts, but also in my traps and arms. I liked them, and will probably do them again at some stage.

moisy
04-13-2007, 05:26 AM
Woohoo ... yippee ... TGIF!!!! :p

You and me both ... I have been waiting for friday to come all week!! :D

Very nice delt workout too ... some interesting exercises there like the "armpit row" ... kinda made me stop and think ... what the heck is that?! lol :) But if it works, then do it!!! lol

Do you ever do one arm single side lateral raises with DBs? I really like incorporating them into every other workout to hit them separately. I love the feeling. I hold on to something, lean slightly towards the arm that I am raising and then to do the move so that it is totally the shoulder and arm doing the work and not momentum ;)

Have a great day!!! ;) :)

FatherOfThree
04-13-2007, 05:27 AM
Armpit rows and Duck flaps -not just a great work out but a fun one to read :) Hiya Emma!

Luvdogs
04-13-2007, 10:26 AM
If you wear that nurses uniform, you'll get CPR pratice :D

Way to go on the shoulders! Those presses are awesome. Was that a BB or machine? Either way, BIG time weight there girl! :D

ChocoChick
04-13-2007, 12:56 PM
Test went....well, it went o.k. I passed, but it was tough. And it wasn't really a "satisfying" test, in that I don't feel like I have a grasp on the material. I know it takes years of practice to be able to accurately and quickly interpret rhythms, but I want to know it all NOW! (But I don't want to have to do any more studying. :o)


Well, yay you! I know what you mean about wanting to know it more intuitively but that will come with time and experience, don't you think?

Have a great weekend!

emmie
04-13-2007, 03:14 PM
Do you ever do one arm single side lateral raises with DBs? I really like incorporating them into every other workout to hit them separately. I love the feeling. I hold on to something, lean slightly towards the arm that I am raising and then to do the move so that it is totally the shoulder and arm doing the work and not momentum ;)
I am too lazy to do unilateral work. I'm not kidding. If I can get the job done in done in half the time....then that's what I'm going to do! But you didn't want a full-of-snotty-attitude answer, did you???! :p
Nah...never done single arm raises.


Armpit rows and Duck flaps -not just a great work out but a fun one to read :) Hiya Emma!Well there are probably less amusing names to those exercises, but I don't know them!




Way to go on the shoulders! Those presses are awesome. Was that a BB or machine? Either way, BIG time weight there girl! :DIt was most definitely a machine! I was eyeing the Smith machine which someone else had left set-up to do presses, but it was after I'd already done these presses, and I digured it's be too much of the same. Don't think I'll brave your behind-the-neck variety, but I'd like to try out the Smith sometime.


Well, yay you! I know what you mean about wanting to know it more intuitively but that will come with time and experience, don't you think?

I would hope so. But I'm not as patient as I could be when it comes to my perceived weak spots. I expect mastery and perfection from the get-go. :o

tatdawg
04-13-2007, 04:25 PM
hey sweetie we got this mean ol week knocked down to where it belongs. the weekend. yee haw!

Lucky K
04-14-2007, 08:45 AM
MMMMmm, smells like bread in here:D

jocularric
04-14-2007, 09:10 AM
Have a great weekend Emmie!

Oh, and I would ne'er call you weak. Weak is so mundane. I'd want something with more flavor--Something I could work in to the King's English. Words like delicate, enfeebled, languid, tender, impaired, vulnerable . . . . :eek: ;)

emmie
04-14-2007, 10:55 AM
hey sweetie we got this mean ol week knocked down to where it belongs. the weekend. yee haw!
I've got a half a weekend (actually, I'm about down to 1/10 of a weekend now), but I'll have the full-serving come Tues+Wed. :) In some ways, one day off is really all I need to get the stuff done that I can't do during the workweek. I don't know how to relax, so a second day off usually finds me antsy and bored. I need structure to my day!

MMMMmm, smells like bread in here:DActually, it smells like asparagus quiche! Mr. Carbohydrate is set for bread until Tuesday when I'll fire up the oven again.




Oh, and I would ne'er call you weak. Weak is so mundane. I'd want something with more flavor--Something I could work in to the King's English. Words like delicate, enfeebled, languid, tender, impaired, vulnerable . . . . :eek: ;)I vote for ENFEEBLED! :p
Has a nice ring to it. Feeble is one of my favorite descriptors.

Had a good cardio session this morning - running intervals on the t-mill. Have been having low-levels of panic about my lack of cardio activity this week. I don't want to do any more than I am, but I feel like I am just waiting for the fat to creep on. Constantly pinching at myself and analyzing my diet and looking for the blimpitude (I just made that up :D) that the crazy person in me believes will come from doing less cardio. Seems like lots of folks on this board are dieting, or prepping for some form of contest or another, and that makes me NUTS when I read about it. So I try to stay away from those types of threads and journals, and in general, I'm trying to minimize the amt. of time I spend on here. I just need to focus on doing what I am doing, and not concern myself/compare myself with what others are choosing to do. I begin to second-guess my own program when in reality, I am doing just fine.

ChocoChick
04-14-2007, 11:03 AM
Hey Emma, yes, you are doing just fine and you have the avatar to prove it. ;)

tatdawg
04-14-2007, 11:14 AM
Hey Emma, yes, you are doing just fine and you have the avatar to prove it. ;)

i agree. i can't see much to improve on. keep doing what your doing cause many here would love to be in the shape that your in. no offence to the others just stating my opinion.

Luvdogs
04-14-2007, 11:19 AM
Morning Emma! Ohh, that quiche sounds gooood! "Mr. Carbohydrate", that's funny!

I like structure too! There's a certain comfort in that. I was just thinking about working Saturday's and talked it over with Buzz and decided not to. Weekends are our only "full" time together.

ChocoChick
04-14-2007, 11:19 AM
i agree. i can't see much to improve on. keep doing what your doing cause many here would love to be in the shape that your in. no offence to the others just stating my opinion.

Yeah... like me!!

tatdawg
04-14-2007, 11:28 AM
Yeah... like me!!

that gal has a heck of a upper body on her don't she?

V-240
04-14-2007, 12:01 PM
... Constantly pinching at myself and analyzing my diet and looking for the blimpitude (I just made that up :D) that the crazy person in me believes will come from doing less cardio.I had to ROFL at that. I think I'm the Baron of Blimpitude! :D But a little gas is let out every day.... uh, let me re-phrase that... :confused:

emmie
04-14-2007, 01:40 PM
Hey Emma, yes, you are doing just fine and you have the avatar to prove it. ;)


i agree. i can't see much to improve on. keep doing what your doing cause many here would love to be in the shape that your in. no offence to the others just stating my opinion.


Yeah... like me!!


that gal has a heck of a upper body on her don't she?

Thanks for the support. I wasn't fishing for compliments, and now I feel uncomfortable.

tatdawg
04-14-2007, 01:50 PM
Thanks for the support. I wasn't fishing for compliments, and now I feel uncomfortable.

emma you know the most honest compliments are the ones you did not ask for.:)

emmie
04-14-2007, 01:52 PM
I was just thinking about working Saturday's and talked it over with Buzz and decided not to. Weekends are our only "full" time together.R. asked me again if I was going to be working every weekend - he is very much opposed. I am working next weekend (technically I'll have worked 2 weekends in a row), but need to make sure my mgr. understands that I was out of my head when I volunteered to work every weekend. I've already told her, but maybe she needs to be reminded.
I agree that it's important to have time together when both people are at ease. The dynamic is just too "off" otherwise. We hung around this a.m., but he was preoccupied by his typical routine. And I was sort of preoccupied with getting things done on my to-do list. Fortunately, HE was on my to-do list, so all was not lost! ;)


I had to ROFL at that. I think I'm the Baron of Blimpitude! :D But a little gas is let out every day.... uh, let me re-phrase that... :confused:Well Blabber (may I please call you Scott? It just feels wrong to call you Blabber.), I reserve the right to be the Baroness, in that case. And let me assure you, I let out more than a little gas every day! :eek:

emmie
04-14-2007, 01:55 PM
emma you know the most honest compliments are the ones you did not ask for.:)

Thanks, Tat. :)
In case you hadn't noticed before, I'm very sensitive about certain things, but I appreciate your nice comments.

tatdawg
04-14-2007, 02:04 PM
Thanks, Tat. :)
In case you hadn't noticed before, I'm very sensitive about certain things, but I appreciate your nice comments.

i understand sweetie. you know a lot of a person comes through here if you really read all of what is posted. always keep in mind that this is just the internet, a box, a screen and a key board so don't take anything negative to seriously.;)

Lucky K
04-14-2007, 03:17 PM
And let me assure you, I let out more than a little gas every day! :eek:
I thought you said that was asparagus quiche I was smelling??:D If you need to balance out the low carb / cutting threads, you know there's no such thing going on in mine:D And I won't embarrass you any further by telling you how awesome your physique is:D But I tried your trick of turning off this here box of friends earlier, and I slept better the next morning... So thanks!

emmie
04-14-2007, 03:19 PM
But I tried your trick of turning off this here box of friends earlier, and I slept better the next morning... So thanks!It's sad, but true....you folks are too stimulating for me past a certain hour. :) And it's rapidly approaching that hour now!!

jmc53
04-14-2007, 04:17 PM
Seems like lots of folks on this board are dieting, or prepping for some form of contest or another, and that makes me NUTS when I read about it.
:(

So I try to stay away from those types of threads and journals, and in general, I'm trying to minimize the amt. of time I spend on here.
:(
(My diet just ended).

i agree. i can't see much to improve on.
More skin in the avitar pic would be an improvement ;)

I imagine the quiche was delicious to most, but I hate asparagus. In fact, I dislike lots of "A" food (anchovies, avocado, artickoke)

jocularric
04-14-2007, 06:22 PM
Milady Emmie nay enfeeble thine own quest.
Thy quest 'tis thine and thine alone to wrest.
Dragons and demons wilt come to enslave,
Each knight, each noble, each squire, and knave.
To each a duty with foes to pursue,
Thy quest 'tis thine, and thine to ensue,
To mold, to shape, to strengthen, to test,
'Tis thy own journey, that buildeth thee best.
Our quest 'tis ours, with labor, with strife,
What challenge, what fight, what glorious life.

emmie
04-15-2007, 01:32 AM
:(

:(
(My diet just ended).Don't worry Jason - you're saved by your Y chromosome. ;) I only waste my time comparing myself to other women.


More skin in the avitar pic would be an improvement ;)Sorry! You'll have to satisfy yourself with Kristen's avatar, 'cause I doubt that you're going to see that here!


I imagine the quiche was delicious to most, but I hate asparagus. In fact, I dislike lots of "A" food (anchovies, avocado, artickoke)Asparagus does seem to evoke strong opinions. I basiclly love it, but if it's overcooked, it's pretty gross. I'm with you on the anchovies. And I only started to eat avocado in the last couple of years. Still don't eat much of it, but guacamole can be pretty yummy.

Milady Emmie nay enfeeble thine own quest.
Thy quest 'tis thine and thine alone to wrest.
Dragons and demons wilt come to enslave,
Each knight, each noble, each squire, and knave.
To each a duty with foes to pursue,
Thy quest 'tis thine, and thine to ensue,
To mold, to shape, to strengthen, to test,
'Tis thy own journey, that buildeth thee best.
Our quest 'tis ours, with labor, with strife,
What challenge, what fight, what glorious life.Thanks, Ric. Mostly I do mind my own business, but I have the unfortunate tendency to get distracted by what others are doing...and start to wonder whether what they are doing is *better* than what I am doing, and maybe I should change something in my routine.

I read your posts and I'm sure that they take a good amount of time to compose - I hope you're writing them while you're on the clock at work!! :D

jmc53
04-15-2007, 03:14 AM
Hi Emma.

Still don't eat much of it, but guacamole can be pretty yummy.
Blech!
I'm mildly colorblind, and occasionally at parties I've dipped in the guacomole thinking it was some other dip more to my taste - hard to keep a happy face when that happens and you're talking to the hostess.

moisy
04-15-2007, 03:41 AM
Good morning ... hope the weekend is great so far ... too bad that it is almost over ... but I think you mentioned that you do have tomorrow off too!! :)

As for asparagus to join in ... I LOVE IT :D ... but it does not always love me!!! lol :eek:

Have a wonderful wine and cheese fest later on with R!! :p

emmie
04-15-2007, 03:43 AM
BICEPS + CHEST

** All sets done w/ a reverse pyramid rep scheme. **

Decided to do biceps first this week. I was all excited about trying 64# for the EZs...


EZ Curls:
64# 4
60# 7
54# 11
48# 15

EZ Preachers:
54# 6 These weren't pretty....
50# 10
44# 15
40# 20

Standing Hammer Curls:
24# DBs 10
20# DBs 13
15# DBs 16

Flat BB Bench:
76# 10 Increased reps.
68# 12
64# 12
54# 15


Slight Incline DB Press:
40# DBs 4 Not happening this morning. Omenous twinge in my shoulder.
35# DBs 6 Guess this wasn't happening, either! :p
30# DBs 12
24# DBs 20

Slight Incline Flys:
35# DBs 6
30# DBs 7
24# DBs 14
20# DBs 20

General comment about the previous 2 sets: Pftttttt!! I was starting to feel fatigued, and by the time I got to the last set, had already been nearly an hour since I started.

General comment about the overall workout: I did it!! :D

I didn't sleep well - dreams full of medication administration and patient care. And soon I'm off to do it in reality. Wish I could get paid for the work I do in my sleep!

Have a good Sunday, nice people! :)

emmie
04-15-2007, 03:50 AM
Hi Emma.

Blech!
I'm mildly colorblind, and occasionally at parties I've dipped in the guacomole thinking it was some other dip more to my taste - hard to keep a happy face when that happens and you're talking to the hostess.I used to feel that way about it too, but R. brought me over to the dark side. ;)


Good morning ... hope the weekend is great so far ... too bad that it is almost over ... but I think you mentioned that you do have tomorrow off too!! :)It IS over! :( I'm working today and tomorrow. But off on Tues and Wed.!


As for asparagus to join in ... I LOVE IT :D ... but it does not always love me!!! lol :eek:I've got to ask: Why?? It makes a person's pee smell funny, but are there other untoward effects??!?


Have a wonderful wine and cheese fest later on with R!! :pThat's on hold for a while, I think. I'm working next weekend, too. Although tomorrow night is a possibility....

Since I'm starting evening shift on Thurdssay, I've got to "practice" staying up until midnight on Tues and Wednesday. Probably will rent some movies to watch. The worst part of it is that it screws up my meal schedule. I'm still stratagizing how I'll organize my food intake once I switch to eves. I'll probably take my usual lunch and have that for "dinner", but when I get home I'll need something to eat, and I don't want to get too involved in cooking at that hour. I am (perhaps foolishly) hoping that I'll be able to get home and get into bed by 1 o'clock... Thinking, thinking....

tatdawg
04-15-2007, 04:32 AM
mornin emma,workout looked good. the flat bench is climbing on up there. don't stress to bad on the food deal. i am sure everything will fall into place.

jocularric
04-15-2007, 05:09 AM
Thanks, Ric. Mostly I do mind my own business, but I have the unfortunate tendency to get distracted by what others are doing...and start to wonder whether what they are doing is *better* than what I am doing, and maybe I should change something in my routine.
As do I. And my post applies to me as well.


I read your posts and I'm sure that they take a good amount of time to compose - I hope you're writing them while you're on the clock at work!! :D
LOL, You have no idea--well maybe you do--but it gets easier with each effort. It's like lifting weights! :D

And between you and me I try to make valuable use of my time where ever I am. ;)

Your workout is strong. And yes you did DO IT! :D Give yourself a pat on the back.

I agree with Tat on your food don't stress it. You'll getter done!

p.s. Your curls make me feel weak.

moisy
04-15-2007, 09:52 AM
Oops ... got mixed up on the work schedule ... so I hope that today flies by so that you can get home to relax a wee bit ;)

As for movies ... unless you want to be a little bored do not rent Pursuit of Happiness ... it is a good story but it could have been told in a lot less time ... I just kept waiting for it to pick up and get happy ... and that did not happen until the end! lol

I am going to watch the Good Sheppard this afternoon so I will have to give you my review later on or tomorrow ... might be a good one to help you readjust your night schedule to stay up later! :D I would be dying if I were you especially because we have been going to bed at a riduculously early time the past two night!! lol :eek:

Luvdogs
04-15-2007, 09:55 AM
Way to go on those curls Emma! :D

Your incline db press experience was like mine this week. I looked at my work sheet and thought, "what's up with that?!". Some day's are just like that though.

Have a great day!

Lucky K
04-15-2007, 10:52 AM
Wow! Emma, your strength never ceases to amaze me! You do those preachers with free weights, don't you? Good job on those flat benches also!:)

emmie
04-15-2007, 02:14 PM
mornin emma,workout looked good. the flat bench is climbing on up there. don't stress to bad on the food deal. i am sure everything will fall into place.I know that you're fixated on the bench press, but I'm more interested in having those 40# DB presses increase. Really bothers me that my ability to do them varies from week to week.



LOL, You have no idea--well maybe you do--but it gets easier with each effort. It's like lifting weights!

And between you and me I try to make valuable use of my time where ever I am. Well I hope it's not as arduous an endeavor as lifting weights!! Awfully glad that you are able to make utmost use of your time...;)

p.s. Your curls make me feel weak.Wow, now that's the best compliment I've ever gotten about them!! Thank you! :D I think I'm a bit like a teenage boy in that want big biceps...



As for movies ... unless you want to be a little bored do not rent Pursuit of Happiness ... it is a good story but it could have been told in a lot less time ... I just kept waiting for it to pick up and get happy ... and that did not happen until the end! lol

I am going to watch the Good Sheppard this afternoon so I will have to give you my review later on or tomorrow ... might be a good one to help you readjust your night schedule to stay up later! I would be dying if I were you especially because we have been going to bed at a riduculously early time the past two night!! lol Believe me, Moisy - I am not looking forward to having to abandon my 7:45 bedtime!! It just feel like the natural time for me to go to sleep.
Thanks for the movie not-to-rent recommendation.:p I am so out of the loop in regard to recent movies - I can't even think of one that I want to see. I do pretty well with just going to the video store and spending 45 minutes in total indecsison before picking something that ends up being bad. I'll probably just do that again. :cool:



Your incline db press experience was like mine this week. I looked at my work sheet and thought, "what's up with that?!". Some day's are just like that though.
But WHY are some weeks like that, that's what I'd like to know. I feel like I want to blame my shoulders for it. So much seems to depend on the position I manage to hoist the DBs into. Once again, I see the need for a hardbodied, hottie personal gym attendant to hand me those weights! :D


Wow! Emma, your strength never ceases to amaze me! You do those preachers with free weights, don't you? Good job on those flat benches also!They weren't free, but they were pretty cheap........Yeah, I do this workout at home w/ my rinky-dink preacher attachment. It's a precarious set-up, esp. when I am dangling the ankle weights off the bar (hence, the odd, 4# incriments).

Not a bad day at work, but a little excitement-filled: We had a psychotic patient who became very agitated, and 4 nurses were required to get this person under control. Tomorrow is my last day shift. :(

Not sure if I will train back and tris tomorrow morning, or if I will do that on Tuesday - maybe going to the gym at the time I expect I will go once I switch shifts. I want to find a time when it is un-busy. I'm thinking around 10:30 or 11.

V-240
04-15-2007, 02:30 PM
I had to ROFL at that. I think I'm the Baron of Blimpitude! :D But a little gas is let out every day.... uh, let me re-phrase that... :confused:


...Well Blabber (may I please call you Scott? It just feels wrong to call you Blabber.), I reserve the right to be the Baroness, in that case. And let me assure you, I let out more than a little gas every day! :eek:You soiteny may call me Scott. My friends call me Scotty, so that works, too. Yeah, I am disliking my username blabber more and more. It's one I've used for years, but it tends to bring up images of similar words like flabber, flubber, blubber, and my favorite, bladder! Ha! None of which are in a positive light when one is working to reshape ones body! So, I would like to come up with a new user name, but haven't come up with anything, and if I did, how do I change it? Probably need to find a friendly neighborhood mod.

Also, I have worked 4-midnight for years! It's not for everyone, but I sure like it. I also tend to pull a lot of weekend shifts. I'll be very interested in how it goes for you. I'll say one thing, packing a good lunch and lots of ice water helps tremendously!

On another note, dang... the wind is HOWLING here!

Scotty :)

edit: Just got called into work, and it's a Sunday afternoon. See what I mean about working strange hours?

V-240
04-15-2007, 02:35 PM
... :D I think I'm a bit like a teenage boy in that want big biceps......:eek:GAWD! Please don't turn into a teenage boy! Then you'll hang out in the Teen and Misc. forums. Although, I like the idea of the biceps... cool! :cool:

Well, off to work... hope I can fix the problem fast and come back home. TTFN, ta-ta for now.

Lucky K
04-15-2007, 02:40 PM
They weren't free, but they were pretty cheap........Yeah, I do this workout at home w/ my rinky-dink preacher attachment. It's a precarious set-up, esp. when I am dangling the ankle weights off the bar (hence, the odd, 4# incriments).
lol! I can barely do 40# on the preacher machine:D


Not sure if I will train back and tris tomorrow morning, or if I will do that on Tuesday - maybe going to the gym at the time I expect I will go once I switch shifts. I want to find a time when it is un-busy. I'm thinking around 10:30 or 11.
That's a perfect time at my gym, then you're done by the time the lunch crowd starts rolling in.


On another note, dang... the wind is HOWLING here!
Here too!!

emmie
04-15-2007, 02:48 PM
Hi Scotty! :) I'm glad to hear your positive testimonial on the 4-midnight shift. I used to work those hours years ago when I was young and self-destructive, but I've been having early-morning hours for so long now that I know it's going to be a big adjustment. I will work every other weekend, and that's plenty for me. And I pray that they wont call me in on my off days! Hasn't seemed to happen much there, fortunately.

I believe if you do happen upon a more suitable user name, if you PM'd Mr. Chi_town, he'd probably change it for a modest sum. :p

Hope the repair is an easy one!

SeaSiren
04-15-2007, 02:59 PM
Still don't eat much of it, but guacamole can be pretty yummy.


mmmm, guacamole, they yummy food that's fun to say :D


I didn't sleep well - dreams full of medication administration and patient care. And soon I'm off to do it in reality. Wish I could get paid for the work I do in my sleep!


arrg, I hate it when I work in my sleep. I'm so tired by the time I wake up :(

jmc53
04-15-2007, 03:10 PM
Not a bad day at work, but a little excitement-filled: We had a psychotic patient who became very agitated, and 4 nurses were required to get this person under control.
Were any of you armed with a cold spoon? Or is that a fallacy (phallusy)?
Nice workout - you're very strong.

tatdawg
04-15-2007, 03:17 PM
how the weight feels to me varies from week to week. sometimes it feels so heavy and others i feel like i could go up alot. what is funny is it does not seem to be a rest issue or a hard day at work. i have no explanation for the differance so i just go with my sig. below

emmie
04-15-2007, 03:25 PM
arrg, I hate it when I work in my sleep. I'm so tired by the time I wake up :(Seems I've been doing that for the past few nights. Anxiety-related, I think. And, yeah, I AM tired today!!


Were any of you armed with a cold spoon? Or is that a fallacy (phallusy)?
Nice workout - you're very strong.Thanks, Jason! :)

Cold spoon??!? I honestly don't have any idea of what you're referring to. I don't think a cold spoon would have helped this person. I was armed with Haldol! And even that didn't help much.




how the weight feels to me varies from week to week. sometimes it feels so heavy and others i feel like i could go up alot. what is funny is it does not seem to be a rest issue or a hard day at work. i have no explanation for the differance so i just go with my sig. belowWell I'm glad I'm not the only one baffled by this. You're right: it is what it is. Damn frustrating! :D

Lucky K
04-15-2007, 04:58 PM
Well, now I'm dying to know what one does with this cold spoon!

V-240
04-15-2007, 05:28 PM
Well, now I'm dying to know what one does with this cold spoon!
CAN'T be good... :eek:

jmc53
04-15-2007, 07:33 PM
Cold spoon??!? I honestly don't have any idea of what you're referring to. I don't think a cold spoon would have helped this person. I was armed with Haldol! And even that didn't help much.
I might be showing my age here. I believe that many years ago, when nurses were giving sponge baths to male patients, a cold spoon was used to ...umm ... err .... let's say reduce any unwanted localized swelling.

joed
04-15-2007, 09:05 PM
Four nurses holding down an agitated psychotic until the I.M. Haldol gets pushed? Where the heck are the burly aides?
The lack of deep sleep is horrible, hope it ends soon.

Lucky K
04-15-2007, 09:54 PM
I might be showing my age here. I believe that many years ago, when nurses were giving sponge baths to male patients, a cold spoon was used to ...umm ... err .... let's say reduce any unwanted localized swelling.

:eek: ROFLMAO! :D

V-240
04-15-2007, 10:13 PM
:eek: ROFLMAO! :D
GAACCKK!!! See, I KNEW it couldn't be good! :eek: But where do you.. where does...

Oh, n/m.. I'm better off not knowing. :confused:

jocularric
04-15-2007, 10:34 PM
Well I hope it's not as arduous an endeavor as lifting weights!! Awfully glad that you are able to make utmost use of your time...;)
'tis worse, 'tis worse, :eek:
Slow of speech and wit,
'Tis my curse.


Wow, now that's the best compliment I've ever gotten about them!! Thank you! :D I think I'm a bit like a teenage boy in that want big biceps...
:D Fair maidens with stout arms 'tis a pleasing sight.


I am so out of the loop in regard to recent movies - I can't even think of one that I want to see.
To watch, to enjoy, here be a few, let boredom now be slew.

A Walk to Remember -- Mandy Moore -- Drama / Romance
The Majestic -- Jim Carey -- Drama / Romance
Flushed Away -- Hugh Jackman -- Animation / Comedy
Casino Royale -- Daniel Craig -- Action / Adventure
Flags of Our Fathers -- Clint Eastwood (Dir.) -- Action / Drama / War
Payback -- Mel Gibson -- Crime / Drama
Serenity -- Nathan Fillion -- Action / Adventure / Sci-Fi


Not a bad day at work, but a little excitement-filled: We had a psychotic patient who became very agitated, and 4 nurses were required to get this person under control. . . .
. . . .I was armed with Haldol! And even that didn't help much.
Now there be a fearsome dragon to face. Nay woulds't I wish to be in thy place.


Well, now I'm dying to know what one does with this cold spoon!
Like pugilist's corner man doth surely know, Swelling and pain they must go. A cold metal block, ice, or spoon, 'tis to a fighter a healing boon. Ladies fear not a use for thee as well, 'Art bags under thine eyes thy morning hell? Place a ice chilled spoon on the offending blight, and bags wilt vanish outta sight.

Lucky K
04-15-2007, 10:54 PM
Like pugilist's corner man doth surely know, Swelling and pain they must go. A cold metal block, ice, or spoon, 'tis to a fighter a healing boon. Ladies fear not a use for thee as well, 'Art bags under thine eyes thy morning hell? Place a ice chilled spoon on the offending blight, and bags wilt vanish outta sight.

And this whole time I've kept 2 ketchup packets in the freezer;)

Buffycat3
04-16-2007, 01:56 AM
Hi Emmie:)

I see you are still enjoying the Reverse Pyramiding:)
I think they really are great in building muscle...are you going to be staying with this program for a certain amount of weeks?

Keep up the greatness!
Have Fun!!

emmie
04-16-2007, 02:28 AM
I might be showing my age here. I believe that many years ago, when nurses were giving sponge baths to male patients, a cold spoon was used to ...umm ... err .... let's say reduce any unwanted localized swelling.The average age of the patient here is about mid-70, so unintended tumescence is not as much of an issue at my place as it may be elsewhere! And I'm going to add that to the list of things I really like about the older patient population!!


Four nurses holding down an agitated psychotic until the I.M. Haldol gets pushed? Where the heck are the burly aides?
I'm the burly aide!! :p {We don't have any aides...} And just on a technical note so folks don't think we're running around waving big needles - 99% of the meds are IV push (needleless system). A lot safer for everyone. You sound like you have some experience with this, Joe - is that right?? Not on the receiving end, I'm sure!






To watch, to enjoy, here be a few, let boredom now be slew.

A Walk to Remember -- Mandy Moore -- Drama / Romance
The Majestic -- Jim Carey -- Drama / Romance
Flushed Away -- Hugh Jackman -- Animation / Comedy
Casino Royale -- Daniel Craig -- Action / Adventure
Flags of Our Fathers -- Clint Eastwood (Dir.) -- Action / Drama / War
Payback -- Mel Gibson -- Crime / Drama
Serenity -- Nathan Fillion -- Action / Adventure / Sci-Fi
Thanks for the list Ric. :) I'll look at them at the video store. I think I'm too much of a wimp for Casino Royale. And Mel Gibson is too much of an a$$hole for me to watch, but I've heard very good things about the C. Eastwood movie, so that's a definite possibility.
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And this whole time I've kept 2 ketchup packets in the freezer;)You're not kidding, are you?

tatdawg
04-16-2007, 02:32 AM
mornin emma, :)

jmc53
04-16-2007, 02:42 AM
mornin emma, :)
x2

emmie
04-16-2007, 02:43 AM
Hi Emmie:)

I see you are still enjoying the Reverse Pyramiding
I think they really are great in building muscle...are you going to be staying with this program for a certain amount of weeks?

Keep up the greatness!
Have Fun!!I am really enjoying it, Joan! I'm glad to hear you say that it's a good muscle-builder. I get sort of worried when I see a scheme that involves some high reps...I guess I've been brainwashed into thinking that high-reps wont do much to add muscle (plus the images of "ladies" doing 633 bicep curls with 2# pink DBs pops into my mind :cool:). The RP keeps the boredom factor to a minimum for me, though, and the workout feels fun.

Not sure how long I will stick to it. I mean, how long should one stick with it? And what will I go on to next? I haven't really though about it. I guess it's been 3 weeks that I've been doing it, so I'll give it at least another 3 and then see how I feel. I am most definitely open to suggestions!!! :) (*Big Hint, Joan!!* ;))

Another ****ty night's sleep. Major wind + rain storm here, so it was a loud night. Plus R. came home (he was out to dinner w/ his mom and my folks) about a 1/2 hour before I was going to go to bed, so I didn't wind-down the way I usually do. I am sooo dependent on my evening routine - it's kind of pathetic that any deviation throws the whole night off.

R showed my MIL my pictures on here, and she said "THAT'S not Emma!!?!!" and demanded proof next time we see her. :p

Anyhow, I stayed in bed this a.m. an extra 45 minutes and skipped the workout. It's been 2 + weeks since a rest day, so I think I'll survive. I did do abs first thing when I got up, though. Will do back and triceps at the gym tomorrow.

Hope everyone has a good Monday. And a huge Thank You for everyone's posts in here!! :D

emmie
04-16-2007, 02:45 AM
mornin emma, :)


x2
You guys snuck in while I was typing away! Good morning to you! (Jason, you're probably ready to go to bed...and it's already Friday there, right??!?)

Tat -I hope those slacker nitwits you have to carry on Mondays don't wear you down too much. It's got to get really irritating after a while....

Lucky K
04-16-2007, 02:53 AM
You're not kidding, are you?

We're still talking about my eyelids, right???:)

emmie
04-16-2007, 02:57 AM
We're still talking about my eyelids, right???:)

First of all, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING AWAKE AT THIS HOUR????

Secondly - I hope we're talking about your eyelids/under-eye area! Unless you and W have a thing for cold condiments....always a possibility! ;)

Lucky K
04-16-2007, 03:24 AM
First of all, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING AWAKE AT THIS HOUR????

Secondly - I hope we're talking about your eyelids/under-eye area! Unless you and W have a thing for cold condiments....always a possibility! ;)

Oh, I smoked too much crack or something... :D I slept in until 10:30 and screwed up my whole inner clock AND meal times. I just finished the last of the food I had in front of me, so I'm gonna try to go to sleep now! W just checked on me and asked what I was doing, I said" look! the people on the east coast are waking up!" He agreed I smoked too much crack also:D

Phew! for a minute, I was worried you thought it was for Jason's "reason":D

moisy
04-16-2007, 05:22 AM
Good morning :)

Sorry to hear about the bad sleep ... the wind is howling here too! I think that you are getting the worst of it in your area unfortunately ... most of the rain has seemed to skip of us here thank goodness ;)

Try to have a good day and I hope the "extra" sleep in time helped a bit! :)

ChocoChick
04-16-2007, 05:32 AM
Good morning! We had howling winds, as well, which gave me hurricane memories. Not a good thing.

Hope your week is off to a good start. :)

SeaSiren
04-16-2007, 06:26 AM
Another ****ty night's sleep. Major wind + rain storm here, so it was a loud night. Plus R. came home (he was out to dinner w/ his mom and my folks) about a 1/2 hour before I was going to go to bed, so I didn't wind-down the way I usually do. I am sooo dependent on my evening routine - it's kind of pathetic that any deviation throws the whole night off.

It's blowing pretty bad here as well


R showed my MIL my pictures on here, and she said "THAT'S not Emma!!?!!" and demanded proof next time we see her. :p
Now that's REALLY cool! Happy Monday! :)

StlBarbie
04-16-2007, 06:52 AM
WAVES and HAPPY MONDAY EMMIE!!! :)
Sorry about the crappy night's sleep ... but at least, you got to catch up a tad this am ................

Hope your day goes only ^^^!!! :)

moisy
04-16-2007, 03:37 PM
Hello again ... hope the day went well ... and tomorrow should be even nicer with you having the day off! :D Other than sleeping in a bit and working out, do you have any other fun plans for the day? I find sometimes on the weekends after dealing with people all week, I just want to do a lot of nothing [other than spending time with D] and chill at home, watch movies and have nice dinners.

The day flew by thankfully and without any more WR runs which was a very good thing indeed - thanks for checking up on me in my journal about that ;) I hope your day went just as well for you ... with no headaches from your patients or crazy requests :)

jmc53
04-16-2007, 03:55 PM
You guys snuck in while I was typing away! Good morning to you! (Jason, you're probably ready to go to bed...and it's already Friday there, right??!?)
Now you've got me confused and I had to think about it. It was Monday night here when I posted that message, it's now Tuesday morning.
I see talk in your thread of wind outside the house and in Lucky's thread of wind inside the house! It's dead calm here, inside and outside.
Still got the next couple of days off?

tatdawg
04-16-2007, 04:22 PM
Tat -I hope those slacker nitwits you have to carry on Mondays don't wear you down too much. It's got to get really irritating after a while....

well one layed out and the boss came in at 6:20 and walked over to the line and turned it on before we could do anything then he walked straight to the powder room where he has a big chair and went to sleep for a hour and a half :rolleyes: i guess it is good to be the king. don't you just love mondays?

moisy
04-17-2007, 05:08 AM
I hope that you are sleeping in and taking advantage of your day off Miss Emmie because you deserve to treat yourself today!! :D :p Be good to yourself today and tomorrow! ;)

emmie
04-17-2007, 06:24 AM
Thanks for all of the nice posts, people! :)

I am probably not going to spend as much time on here as I have been. Want to (need to) get back to reading books, the newspapers, writing lettters, and all the other things I don't do when I'm spending a lot of time surfing around here. I'm still going to log my workouts here and look for info/advice about training. The chat is what I'm cutting back on.

Slept in and worked-out llater than usual. Felt great to not have to look at the clock while at the gym the way I do on the mornings before I go to work. I felt like I was able to focus on intensity rather than efficiency.

BACK + TRICEPS

** All sets done w/ a reverse pyramid rep scheme. **

BB row:
100# 8
90# 11
80# 14
70#16
Increases in weight and reps.

LyingIncline DB Row:
40# DBs 9
35# DBs 12
30# DBs 16
24# DBs 20
I should have used a heavier weight to start with. May have to switch to using a bar and plates instead of the DBs.

Wide-Grip Pulldown:
115# 7 Increased weight.
105# 9
95# 11
85# 13
Increases in weight and reps.

V-Bar Pulldown:
100# 8
95 8
85# 10
80# 12

Straight Bar Triceps Pulldown:
110# 9
105# 11
100# 13
90# 15 - Burn city!! :p

OH Rope Extentions:
85# 10
80 12
75# 14
70# 15 - OWW!

Weighted Bench Dips (legs on bench): 25# 3 x15

Assisted Chins: 30# assist 3 x 6

20 minutes fast walking on t-mill. Very pleased with this workout!!

Once again a change of schedule - I'm off today, working day shift tomorrow, and then off on Thurs and Friday. Start eves. on Saturday.

Hope all of you nice people have a great day. Even if I am not posting in everyone's journal, I am still reading! :)

moisy
04-17-2007, 07:07 AM
Awesome workout!! :)

So nice too to be able to focus on everything and not feel rushed to get in and get done! ;) When I look at the numbers that you are posting, you are one STONG woman! If I were your patient, I would do anything that you told me to based on those numbers ... or you might bench press me ... just kidding ... but those are some serious weights!! :D

I understand too about getting back to doing other things like reading etc... I am going to be doing the same thing and unfortunately cutting back my time in here too. I want to read everyone's journal and feel bad if I am not able to respond to everyone :o ... but it can be SO time consuming along with everything else in the day!! lol And I don't want anyone to feel that I have skipped over them or ignored them either!! lol It is a terrible dilemma eh?!! lol :eek:

Enjoy your day off ;)

emmie
04-17-2007, 07:38 AM
I want to read everyone's journal and feel bad if I am not able to respond to everyone :o ... but it can be SO time consuming along with everything else in the day!! lol And I don't want anyone to feel that I have skipped over them or ignored them either!! lol It is a terrible dilemma eh?!! lol :eek:
That's it exactly! Sometimes I've felt a pressure to post something in everyone's journal. And be funny, to boot! I mean, I know that I feel great when I know that ppl are reading mine, and if I don't post in others', how could I expect anyone to read mine??!? I really love the feedback and advice I get about the workouts, and I don't want to lose that!

jocularric
04-17-2007, 07:51 AM
if I don't post in others', how could I expect anyone to read mine??!? I really love the feedback and advice I get about the workouts, and I don't want to lose that!
We do it because we like you. :)

And that was a killer workout. I feel like moisy, "If I were your patient, I would do anything that you told me."


Want to (need to) get back to reading books, the newspapers, writing lettters, and all the other things I don't do when I'm spending a lot of time surfing around here.
You mean this doesn't count for my cultural enrichment? Dang it! I thought I was doing good.

Luvdogs
04-17-2007, 01:50 PM
You are a flippin' power house these days Emma! :D Way to go!

I understand what you mean by the time spent here. I have "unsubscribed" to a few things simply because I can't keep up with all of it! I felt bad about it, but I have about 8 journals I keep up on. Luckily I only work part-time so I can spend a little more time here :)

ChocoChick
04-17-2007, 02:00 PM
Hi Emma. I'll be cutting back on here, too, especially with working FT during the day and teaching at night. :eek: I tend to read in the bathtub. ;)

That was a pretty kick-ass workout, there, miss. Can't wait to see progress pics. :)

V-240
04-17-2007, 02:05 PM
Looks like we're all kinda cutting back! I had to re-subscribe most threads from "instant notification" to "daily updates" because it started to become unmanageabubble! And my hours at work have jumped lately due to co-workers retiring or going on vacation or disability.

I haven't even updated my own journal for a couple days! Well, we all do what we can. As much fun as we have here, we have to live our lives... darn it. ;)

Scotty

jmc53
04-17-2007, 03:15 PM
Great workout Emma. The dumbell rows are impressive.
Don't feel pressured to visit my journal if you don't have time.
I know what you mean about feeling like you ahve to be funny - sometimes you just want to let someone know you were interested enough to read their journal, without really having to say anything meaningful. I do most of my posting while having my breakfast - it's hard to be funny without at least two cups of coffee in the system :)

tatdawg
04-17-2007, 04:58 PM
dropping in to say hey and i hope the new shift works out for you.:)

StlBarbie
04-17-2007, 05:27 PM
WAVES Emmie!!! :)

Lucky K
04-18-2007, 12:37 AM
You have a new and very stressful job, in a new field. There is absolutely no reason anyone will feel slighted if you don't post daily! Well, ok, we might miss it, but we all understand!!

Can I just say ....Kick @ss workout! Lots of great stuff! Looks like the extra sleep did you well.
I hate it when my schedule gets changed last minute(well, it's usually either me that does it or cuz someone is sick), but even when it doesn't interfere with anything it makes me crabby!:)

emmie
04-18-2007, 01:32 AM
You mean this doesn't count for my cultural enrichment? Dang it! I thought I was doing good.Your posts are the closest thing to literature I've read in a long time, Ric!


You are a flippin' power house these days Emma! Way to go!Coming from a flippin' powerhouse herself, that's a great compliment - thanks, Julia! Having the extra time in the gym seemed to help.


I have "unsubscribed" to a few things simply because I can't keep up with all of it! I felt bad about it, but I have about 8 journals I keep up on. Luckily I only work part-time so I can spend a little more time here :)I feel like I have time before work to check in with things, but the after-work "checking-in" was taking a lot of time. There are people who have posted in here and I've never been to their journals because I just can't get any more involved!

I tend to read in the bathtub. I've never been able to get comfortable enough in a tub to actually read. I love the idea of it. I need to get a tub with a heating element in it so that the water stays hot. I am very particular about my shower/bath temperatures.





I haven't even updated my own journal for a couple days! Well, we all do what we can. As much fun as we have here, we have to live our lives... darn it. ;)

ScottyWell-said, Scotty. If I spend too much time here, though, it starts to feel like a chore instead of feling fun.


Great workout Emma. The dumbell rows are impressive.Thanks. I still don't feel like I get much out of that exercise....but it's one that I can do at home before I get to the gym (along w/ the BB rows), so I keep it in the repertoire

Don't feel pressured to visit my journal if you don't have time.
I know what you mean about feeling like you ahve to be funny - sometimes you just want to let someone know you were interested enough to read their journal, without really having to say anything meaningful. I do most of my posting while having my breakfast - it's hard to be funny without at least two cups of coffee in the system :)I wish there were some way for a person to track who READS their journal, the way we can track who visits our BodySpace page. That way people could know that we've visited, even if we don't leave a comment. Knowing that people are actually reading my babble is a big motivator for me.


dropping in to say hey and i hope the new shift works out for you.:)Thanks!


WAVES Emmie!!! :)Hi Barb! Thanks for stopping by, despite the fact that I haven't been in your journal for days......:o



Can I just say ....Kick @ss workout! Lots of great stuff! Looks like the extra sleep did you well.
I hate it when my schedule gets changed last minute(well, it's usually either me that does it or cuz someone is sick), but even when it doesn't interfere with anything it makes me crabby!I actually didn't mind the schedule change, since I still get my 2 days off in a row (thurs+Fri) so I can "practice" staying up late. Usually I am very inflexible with any type of schedule change, but if I can get my workout in, that goes a long way to quell the crankiness.

Off to the gym for cardio.

Lucky K
04-18-2007, 03:01 AM
I wish there were some way for a person to track who READS their journal, the way we can track who visits our BodySpace page. That way people could know that we've visited, even if we don't leave a comment. Knowing that people are actually reading my babble is a big motivator for me.

That was something I was just thinking about too! So since you brought it up, here's my idea. We can create secondary journals where we can sign in. Or we can create our own code system with the smileys, and that way in 2 keystrokes we can show we've been there and either the way we felt about the w/o or just share our general mood....Or... I can go to bed now:D

emmie
04-18-2007, 03:35 AM
That was something I was just thinking about too! So since you brought it up, here's my idea. We can create secondary journals where we can sign in. Or we can create our own code system with the smileys, and that way in 2 keystrokes we can show we've been there and either the way we felt about the w/o or just share our general mood....Or... I can go to bed now:D
I think this is the best idea.........for everyone involved!! :eek: But I'm happy to know that I'm not the only one who likes the idea of a marker just to let folks know that we cared enough to stop by.
Can you please explain to me what are you doing up at 3:30 a.m.??!?

I didn't look at the computer at all yesterday evening, instead I read the two books I got at the library and, drumroll, please......I slept like a baby!! :) Yeah, I was a little bored at times, but I think I'll be able to adjust.

moisy
04-18-2007, 04:30 AM
Woohoo on the great sleep lastnight ... I guess the reading did the trick for you!! lol ;)

I am terrible with changes in my schedule too since my days have been so routine and the same time start and end times for 16 years now!! :eek: If there is a change I have to make sure that I get my workout in too to give me a sense of balance! lol

I would love to know who stops in to read my journal ... maybe the moderators can think of a way to come up with a tracking system :rolleyes: That would be a great addition!

jmc53
04-18-2007, 05:41 AM
I wish there were some way for a person to track who READS their journal, the way we can track who visits our BodySpace page. That way people could know that we've visited, even if we don't leave a comment.
:)

Lucky K
04-18-2007, 11:00 AM
I think this is the best idea.........for everyone involved!! :eek: But I'm happy to know that I'm not the only one who likes the idea of a marker just to let folks know that we cared enough to stop by.
Can you please explain to me what are you doing up at 3:30 a.m.??!?


Sleeping good is as good as a workout!:) I've gotten on this 3am-11am sleep schedule:eek: Last night I got home from work at 11 pm, and just had a hard time winding down. Plus I had to get 2 more meals in:D

moisy
04-19-2007, 04:36 AM
Good morning Miss Emmie ... hope you slept well ... and I also think that today is another off work day for you ... so if it is, enjoy and relax!! :) ;)

emmie
04-19-2007, 06:26 AM
:):D back at you!


Sleeping good is as good as a workout!:) I've gotten on this 3am-11am sleep schedule Last night I got home from work at 11 pm, and just had a hard time winding down. Plus I had to get 2 more meals in.I'm worried about the post-work winding down...I'm also worried about training myseel to sleep beyond 6 a.m. I'm wondering if I might have to do what R. does: sleep until 6:30, get up start the day, and then take a 1.5-2 hour nap later on...


Good morning Miss Emmie ... hope you slept well ... and I also think that today is another off work day for you ... so if it is, enjoy and relax!! :) ;)
Off today and tomorrow. Actually, It's feeling like a little too much free time. My preference would be to work 4-5 days straight and then have a couple of free days, but it doesn't look like that will be possible, alas.

Legs

This was the final week of the Killer Quads program.

Leg Press: 210# 4 x 15

Leg Extention: 70# 4 x 15

Seated Calf Raise Machine: 50# 4 x 15

SLDLs: 85# 4 x 15

Walking Lunges: 25# Dbs 2 x 20

Finished with 20 minutes brisk walking on the t-mill. Felt lightheaded after the leg extentions - those last few reps were downright painful! Had to rest 2-3 minutes before I went on to the next exercise. 15 rep sets aren't my favorite, but they certainly challenge me. Guess that's the point, huh? :cool:

I need some input and advice, please: I've completed the first 6 weeks of routines from the Killer Quads program. The next step is as below.



The above is a shocking routine to wake your leg muscles up. To continue building after Week VI, follow the program below. Routine I should be followed on the odd weeks (1, 3, 5...) and Routine II should be followed on the even weeks (2, 4, 6...)

Routine I
Squats 3 x 6 - 8
Stiff Deads 3 x 6 - 8
Extensions 3 x 6 - 8

Routine II
Leg Press 3 x 6 - 8
Leg Curls 3 x 6 - 8
Hacks 3 x 6 - 8


I'm not thrilled with the rep scheme, exercises, or volume. But I have found that I do well if I have a pre-designed, varying from week to week program that I simply have to FOLLOW. Does anyone have any ideas about other workout programs that a leg-day dreader like myself might want to try? My goal is to strengthen my legs and tighten up the rear. I'm not looking gain too much size-wise (except the calves). Any input will be gratefully received!

Lucky K
04-19-2007, 10:45 AM
Routine I
Squats 3 x 6 - 8
Stiff Deads 3 x 6 - 8
Extensions 3 x 6 - 8

Routine II
Leg Press 3 x 6 - 8
Leg Curls 3 x 6 - 8
Hacks 3 x 6 - 8

Well, you don't want to totally dread it either! It will be a good idea for you to do the higher weight lower reps for a while. Maybe for 4 weeks, then switch up the rep scheme. Personally I would keep #1 the same. #2 would go more like Leg press, seated leg curl, and almost anything other than hacks! A low and slow sumo squat can hit the rear and the adductors nicely. Or db lunges... My ? to you fair Emma: what is, besides the leg exercises that are already in the routines, the 1 you hate the least??

Your high rep day looks great! I'm also not a fan of more than 12 reps, but switching it up can be so rewarding in the end!:)

emmie
04-19-2007, 12:59 PM
Thanks for the input, Kristen. :) You're right: I don't want to dread it, so I'm not advocating a *longer* workout, or high reps, but these two seem so minimal. I guess I question whether or not I'll get any results from doing one of these routines once per week (and no, a 2 x week leg session is not a possibility!). I don't have access to a hack squat machine, and bb hacks don't do it for me, so I would definitely sub something (probably walking lunges, which I do like) for those hacks in the 2nd WO.

As far as leg exercises that I don't hate: walking lunges, deadlifts, sumo squats (though I don't particularly need to target the inner thighs) and I could probably tolerate split squats. Maybe. On a good day. :p

I know that I could come up with my own suitable routine, but my point was that I liked the variety - and "mystery" of the past 6 weeks: most weeks I didn't check what the routine would be until the night before, and that helped to keep the dread in check. Maybe I could hire an on-line trainer to just e-mail me a leg routine once a week?!?

Or maybe I could just do this 6 week routine all over again, aiming for higher weights than I did this time around? I hadn't thought of that before...

Anyhow, thanks again for the suggestions, K.!

tatdawg
04-19-2007, 02:47 PM
yea emma you got the leggies done. :) good job too. don't stress sleeping as your body sleep cycle will set itself after a bit and you will be good to go.

jmc53
04-19-2007, 02:50 PM
I'm wondering if I might have to do what R. does: sleep until 6:30, get up start the day, and then take a 1.5-2 hour nap later on...
Naps are gooooood!!!
(And I'm not just saying that cause I'm old).
I've always liked to get up, eat breakfast, have a killer workout, and then, if time permits, have a nap for about 40 minutes before starting my working day.

I quite like the look of that next six week plan, so I don't know what to suggest. Obviously I'd be adding in some calf exercises, if that's one area you wish to focus on.

Question: do you do warm-up sets before you working sets? For example leg press 4 x 15 @ 210, did you do some sets at lower weights first. I know some of us record the warm-up sets in our journals and others don't, but I'm not sure what you do.

emmie
04-19-2007, 02:59 PM
yea emma you got the leggies done. :) good job too. don't stress sleeping as your body sleep cycle will set itself after a bit and you will be good to go.That's right! I did it! And truth be told, I actually didn't mind it too much. Once I get started with the workout, I'm fine. It's the anticipation that gets to me.

I hope you're right about adjusting to a new sleep cycle. I've been getting up at ungodly hours for so long, I think I've forgotten how to sleep past 6.


Naps are gooooood!!!
(And I'm not just saying that cause I'm old).
I've always liked to get up, eat breakfast, have a killer workout, and then, if time permits, have a nap for about 40 minutes before starting my working day.I've never been a successful napper - I find that the grogginess I feel upon waking negates any of its restorative properties. Maybe I could learn, though?!? I did mention my idea to R and he said "you mean I'm going to have to share my nap time with you????". He did not seem at all keen on the idea. :cool:


I quite like the look of that next six week plan, so I don't know what to suggest. Obviously I'd be adding in some calf exercises, if that's one area you wish to focus on.You don't think it looks a little skimpy??


Question: do you do warm-up sets before you working sets? For example leg press 4 x 15 @ 210, did you do some sets at lower weights first. I know some of us record the warm-up sets in our journals and others don't, but I'm not sure what you do. While 4 x 15 @ 210 is probably a warm up for some, those were my working sets. :o I am too impatient to do much of a warm up. Today I did 1 x 10 @ 160 and 1 x 5 @ 200. I don't warm-up on the treadmill or anything. And after the first exercise, I don't do any warm-up sets on the subsesquent exercises.

Luvdogs
04-19-2007, 03:15 PM
How about doing 4 sets of 6-8 reps. Just add another set. The 6-8 rep range is tough, it won't seem like too little once you do it. I know that's not what the plan calls for, but you can improvise a bit ;)

jmc53
04-19-2007, 03:19 PM
No I don't think it looks skimpy. I also think that good warmup sets are more important when you're doing the lower rep scheme, because the weight you are moving is so much closer to your 1RM than for high rep sets.
For example, I see you did 4 x 15 @ 85 on SLDL. I'm guessing for 6-8 reps you might move something like 120 lb.s?
If so I'd do something like 6@85, 6@105, 3x6-8@120 (just as an example); and I'd do the same for each exercise - not cause you need to warm-up on each exercise but because you will hit a higher working weight by sliding up to it (acclimation to weight technique).
Then add 4 sets of calves. So the 9 set routine becomes 19 sets (3x5, 1x4), some of those sets being fairly easy and some being quite taxing. Throw in some quad and hammy stretching and you have a reasonably lengthy workout.
If it makes the workout more interesting you could do a set of calf raises, then all sets of exercise 1, then another set of calf raises, then exercise 2, etc.. Or pick an exercise each session to superset with calf raises.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, but hopefully something here might help you make the routine fit you better, or seem more interesting.

emmie
04-19-2007, 03:22 PM
:rolleyes: Thanks, Julia!

So my esteemed panel of advisors (whose legs are undoubtedly stronger than mine!) seems to concur: Follow the program, Emma! :p

I do think I'll aim for 4 sets, plus toss in some calf exercise. I'll try it out and see how it goes. I haven't used the 6-8 rep range much for legs, so that will be different.

Thank you, folks!! :)

Lucky K
04-19-2007, 03:27 PM
I think the key to getting the most out of your "minimal" workouts is go heavy! If you do a good warm-up set of light to no weight for the first exercise (both squats and leg press are good compound moves to start with) and then go as heavy as you can, knowing that you only have to do 6-8 reps will help you past the mind set of having to 'save some strength' for the rest. I'm sure you're not one of those people that let the momentum speed them thru a set, so control is still a big factor. The intensity will make up for the shorter time:) Throw your calves in there and you still have a short-ish workout that shouldn't be so 'dreadful'! I do think you'll get results from those routines as long as you take 'em seriously! My vote is to do them for at least 4 weeks (2 of each routine) giving them your best, then self-critique from there:D

Have you ever looked into DC training? Crazy rest/pause sets and real low volume! I look at some of these crazy big guys who do them and as they say" the proof is in the pudding"!:D mmm...pudding...



*so basically what everyone else said while I was typing:)

emmie
04-19-2007, 04:11 PM
No I don't think it looks skimpy. I also think that good warmup sets are more important when you're doing the lower rep scheme, because the weight you are moving is so much closer to your 1RM than for high rep sets.
For example, I see you did 4 x 15 @ 85 on SLDL. I'm guessing for 6-8 reps you might move something like 120 lb.s?
If so I'd do something like 6@85, 6@105, 3x6-8@120 (just as an example); and I'd do the same for each exercise - not cause you need to warm-up on each exercise but because you will hit a higher working weight by sliding up to it (acclimation to weight technique).
Then add 4 sets of calves. So the 9 set routine becomes 19 sets (3x5, 1x4), some of those sets being fairly easy and some being quite taxing. Throw in some quad and hammy stretching and you have a reasonably lengthy workout.
If it makes the workout more interesting you could do a set of calf raises, then all sets of exercise 1, then another set of calf raises, then exercise 2, etc.. Or pick an exercise each session to superset with calf raises.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, but hopefully something here might help you make the routine fit you better, or seem more interesting.Jason, your post snuck in before I could see it! Thanks for the detailed response. I have always been kind of leery about lengthy warm-ups (not to mention the fact that I am impatient and I just want o get the "real" stuff) as I fear that they will sap my strength before I've even gotten to the working sets. But of course I have no basis for this fear, as I've never done lengthy warm-ups....:cool:. I will try it!!


Have you ever looked into DC training? Crazy rest/pause sets and real low volume! I look at some of these crazy big guys who do them and as they say" the proof is in the pudding"!:D mmm...pudding...I've glanced at at, and it has never appealed to me. In general, I am not a fan of very low reps, even though I know that they can be effective.

I will definitely give this scheme a couple of cycles before I start whining about needing to find something new to do. :p

Thanks again!

moisy
04-20-2007, 04:46 AM
TGIF!! :)

Good morning ... hope you are feeling the effects of the leg workout ... especially those extensions since they made you dizzy!! :eek:

You definitely have lots of good advice in here concerning how to hit your legs over the next few weeks. The question is ... did you like the first routine that you followed for MsFit's killer quads ... did you notice any difference in shape, muscle, soreness in comparison to what you were doing before? I believe in listening to the body ... and like you I have a hard time mentally adjusting to low reps but a lot of people really like them ;)

Have a good weekend!! :)

jocularric
04-20-2007, 06:14 AM
Lady Emmie I too like the routine you have posted. The only suggestion I have is to superset your calf exercises. I find supersetting them works best for me--and it saves time. :) Something like:

Routine I
Superset
Squats 3 x 6 - 8
Standing Calf Raises 3 x 20 - 25

Superset
Stiff Deads 3 x 6 - 8
Donkey Calf Raises 3 x 20 - 25

Extensions 3 x 6 - 8

Routine II
Superset
Leg Press 3 x 6 - 8
Seated Calf Raises on Leg Press Machine 3 x 20 - 25

Leg Curls 3 x 6 - 8

Superset
Hacks 3 x 6 - 8
Donkey Calf Raises 3 x 20 - 25

Happy Friday!

emmie
04-20-2007, 06:16 AM
The question is ... did you like the first routine that you followed for MsFit's killer quads ... did you notice any difference in shape, muscle, soreness in comparison to what you were doing before? I believe in listening to the body ... and like you I have a hard time mentally adjusting to low reps but a lot of people really like them ;)
I really did like the first routine - it was fun and the always-changing rep scheme kept things interesting for me. I noticed today that my quads feel more substantial than the last time I noticed. They've always been very lean, so fat-loss isn't something I'd notice. My pants still fit, and that's a great thing. So....yes, I think there have been some changes. Whether that's a result of the routine, or simply the fact that I've been training consistently, I don't know.

Tried to sleep in a bit, but R. got up @ 6, and then the cat got into bed to cuddle, so I got up at around 6:20.


SHOULDERS

Seated Overhead Press:
78# 8 Increased wt.
70# 8
65# 8
55# 10
Obviously the reverse pyramid scheme wasn't working here....:cool:

Upright Cable Row:
110# 10
105# 11
95# 12
80# 14 Increased wt. on sets 2 + 3

Armpit Rows:
40# DBs 7
35# DBs 9
30# DBs 12
25# DBs 15 Didn't feel the "whole-arm pump" from these this week the way I did last week. Almost felt like I was shrugging too much on the 40s, even though I tried to press my shoulders down.

Duck Flaps: 25# DBs 10/8 Increased WT.
20#DBs 2 x 12 These were bothering my forearm today.:(

Finished with a brisk 2 mile walk on the t-mill.

Today's agenda: Make yoghurt, make an egg casserole, bake bread, go grocery shopping, and maybe take a stroll because it's supposed to be near 60 degrees today.

Hope everyone is having a good day! :)

ChocoChick
04-20-2007, 07:22 AM
I've never been able to get comfortable enough in a tub to actually read. I love the idea of it. I need to get a tub with a heating element in it so that the water stays hot. I am very particular about my shower/bath temperatures.

When I lived in NY, I would be constantly having to drain and add water in order to regulate the temp. I think it may be because I have an extra deep tub now (Jacuzzi) that I don't have temperature problems. I thinkthe tub is functioning as an insulator.

Are you off today? How do you make yogurt and what kind (style) do you make?

moisy
04-20-2007, 07:31 AM
It sounds like you have a nice day planned for yourself :) Yummy ... fresh baked bread ... your house is going to smell DIVINE later on!! :D I wish that you could send me a peice thru the internet! lol

I am glad to hear that you liked the results from the last round of leg exercises. That is what is important and what counts the most ... that YOU were happy and pleased with them! :)

And thanks for the nice words in my journal this morning ... confirms what I was thinking ;) :)

emmie
04-20-2007, 07:34 AM
Lady Emmie I too like the routine you have posted. The only suggestion I have is to superset your calf exercises. I find supersetting them works best for me--and it saves time. :) Something like:

Routine I
Superset
Squats 3 x 6 - 8
Standing Calf Raises 3 x 20 - 25

Superset
Stiff Deads 3 x 6 - 8
Donkey Calf Raises 3 x 20 - 25

Extensions 3 x 6 - 8

Routine II
Superset
Leg Press 3 x 6 - 8
Seated Calf Raises on Leg Press Machine 3 x 20 - 25

Leg Curls 3 x 6 - 8

Superset
Hacks 3 x 6 - 8
Donkey Calf Raises 3 x 20 - 25

Happy Friday!Ric- I didn't see your post before posting mine this morning - sorry!! Your suggestion is a very good one - plus it eliminates the chance that I will "oops, 'forget'" to do something for my calves. I have only recently started to do anything for them, and they are TINY!! :eek: Thanks for weighing in! :)


When I lived in NY, I would be constantly having to drain and add water in order to regulate the temp. I think it may be because I have an extra deep tub now (Jacuzzi) that I don't have temperature problems. I thinkthe tub is functioning as an insulator.Mmmmm, Jacuzzi!! :p


Are you off today? How do you make yogurt and what kind (style) do you make?
Yes, it's another day off. I don't need another day off. I like to be busy and have a set routine. I work tomorrow, Sunday, and Monday from 4-midnight.

I use organic skim milk for my yoghurt, and use either purchased yoghurt starter or my own starter (from the previous batch). I use a heating pad wrapped in an old thin carpet as my incubator. I get pretty good results. Even when it's an "iffy" batch (usually because it's a little on the thin side), it's tasty. And a hell of a lot cheaper than buying yoghurt, especially the organic stuff! I bet you've made your own! Wish I could replicate the F-a-g-e brand's texture....

Are you home today? Hope the headache's better!

tatdawg
04-20-2007, 04:44 PM
hey emma, looks like your workouts are going good. i figure by the end of this next 4 day work cycle you will be sleeping better. you seem to be good at setting a schedule and sticking with it.

Lucky K
04-20-2007, 04:45 PM
Homeade yogurt? You are my hero:D

emmie
04-20-2007, 05:08 PM
hey emma, looks like your workouts are going good. i figure by the end of this next 4 day work cycle you will be sleeping better. you seem to be good at setting a schedule and sticking with it.Thanks, Tat! :) I DO like to have a schedule for myself, otherwise I tend to just mope and wander around the house. Like today.... Seems somewhat sinful to complain about having a day off, but I truly didn't need one today. I was kind of bored. :o


Homeade yogurt? You are my hero:DNo heroics required, Kristen - it's incredibly simple to do. R. was the one who got me started on it. The hardest part is remembering to make it.

I just watched "Little Miss Sunshine" and absolutely loved it! Now I'm going to eat pancakes. Stayed up until about 9:15 last night. Shooting for 10 o'clock tonight. R. did make the point that I simply wont have a choice tomorrow night - my co-workers are not going to let me go to bed at 7:45. Darn.....:cool:

tatdawg
04-20-2007, 05:27 PM
Thanks, Tat! :) R. did make the point that I simply wont have a choice tomorrow night - my co-workers are not going to let me go to bed at 7:45. Darn.....:cool:

well! now what kind of co-workers would treat my emma like that? you tell those folks they better be nice to you and let you have your way or i'll just have to drive up there and have a little talk with them. ;)

joed
04-20-2007, 08:37 PM
I wish there were some way for a person to track who READS their journal, the way we can track who visits our BodySpace page. That way people could know that we've visited, even if we don't leave a comment...

You don't know we're here but we're watching these changes in your workouts. Quietly. hehe. (hang in there, changes can be good.)

jmc53
04-21-2007, 12:37 AM
Those are very strong lateral raises Emma, many men would be proud to own them. Very impressive.

emmie
04-21-2007, 07:34 AM
you tell those folks they better be nice to you and let you have your way or i'll just have to drive up there and have a little talk with them. ;)Hah! I am going to keep that in mind: I can just picture you strolling onto the unit and telling them, in no uncertrain terms, that I need to be in bed by 8 p.m. at the latest...don't they know I've got to get up and go to the gym??!? :D


You don't know we're here but we're watching these changes in your workouts. Quietly. hehe. (hang in there, changes can be good.)Thanks, Joe. I think.... *Looks nervously over her shoulder*


Those are very strong lateral raises Emma, many men would be proud to own them. Very impressive.
Do you mean the duck flaps?? I find that my front delts tire out befoe the medial delts from holding the DBs. Anyhoo, thanks for the compliment! :)

Stayed in bed until about 7:45 this morning. R. got up at 6 to go rowing (he goes to bed between midnight and 1), and I was able to snooze a bit after that, but then the cats started rattling on the doorknob wanting me to get up and feed them. They are lucky I do not keep a shotgun at the bedside....:cool: Did my ab exercises and puttered around a bit before going out for an hour's walk. Very warm today - I was overdressed and uncomfortable by the time I got home.

Have been anxiously arranging and re-arranging my meals for the day. Trying to find a suitable post-work meal that wont require cooking. Think it'll be the good old cottage cheese w/ walnuts. The way I've planned it all out, I'm eating about 1.5 c of cottage cheese each day. I worry a little about the sodium in it (380 mg per .5 cup), but it's so darn convenient, and I love the taste. I drink plenty of fluids during the day, so I think I'll be o.k. I just like to have something irrational to worry about at all times! :o

Hope all of you nice people are enjoying this Saturday!

emmie
04-21-2007, 08:17 AM
Thought I would post my diet and see if anyone has any ideas or suggestions. This is basically my typical intake for a day, not accounting for the odd carrot or two or three that I munch on. Sometimes I sub almonds for the walnuts, sometimes I eat eggwhites instead of the pancakes, sometimes I'll have a little bread, but basically, what you see is what I eat. I'm not interested in adding or subtracting calories - this amount seems to work for me.

I am not crazy about M3 (pancakes). I mean, I love it, but I don't really want to eat it at this time in the day. but I don't want to have to cook anything when I get home from work.

I like eggwhite omelettes, but plain eggwhites have been making me very gassy lately, and I don't want to subject my co-workers and patients to that!! I suppose I could pre-cook something during the day to reheat at night (omelette)....


M1 (pre-workout): 15 g. organic cheerios, 1 scoop whey in water

M2: Tea w/ skim milk. Oatmeal or oatbran cooked with .5 c. skim milk, .5c . cottage cheese, 2 Tbsp. ground flaxseeds stirred in.

M3: Pancakes made w/ 6 whites, .5 c. cottage cheese, .33 c. oat bran,and .5 oz walnuts. 4-5 c. steamed broccoli.

M4: .75 c. nonfat yoghurt w/ .75 c. Fiber One cereal. .5 oz almonds.

**above meals eaten before work**

M5: 1 serving egg casserole, 2 c. green beans, 1 large sweet bell pepper (8 oz. or more), 1 piece string cheese.

**eaten at work

M6: .5 c. cottage cheese w/ .5 oz walnuts.

Macros:

Calories: 1850
Fat: 58 g.
CHO: 189 g.
Fiber: 57 g.
Protein:188 g.

wedgey
04-21-2007, 08:28 AM
Hiya Emma , workouts are looking good as ever , Diet looks good on the macros but I can't comment about the total Cals, just looks way too low for me , but that's for me lol, I'm not sure what you're doing at the moment (trying to gain or lose)

emmie
04-21-2007, 08:39 AM
Thanks, Shaun! :) My goal is what everyone's is, I suppose: Gain muscle without gaining too much fat. I've been able to increase my strength - and add some muscle - eating at this calorie level. Fat level has dropped a bit (haven't measured for several months - I just go by how I look and how firm I feel.) I'm sure that if I were willing to "bulk", I would add a lot more muscle mass, faster. But I can be patient! Psychologically I cannot - and will not - "bulk" or "cut".

If you think these cals are low....last July I started to increase my calories: I was eating 1300-1400/day, and doing 45 min of cardio 5-6 days week, on top of lifting 3 x week. :cool: I was carrying less muscle and more fat than I do now.

jocularric
04-21-2007, 11:59 AM
Thanks, Shaun! :) My goal is what everyone's is, I suppose: Gain muscle without gaining too much fat. I've been able to increase my strength - and add some muscle - eating at this calorie level. Fat level has dropped a bit (haven't measured for several months - I just go by how I look and how firm I feel.) I'm sure that if I were willing to "bulk", I would add a lot more muscle mass, faster. But I can be patient! Psychologically I cannot - and will not - "bulk" or "cut".

If you think these cals are low....last July I started to increase my calories: I was eating 1300-1400/day, and doing 45 min of cardio 5-6 days week, on top of lifting 3 x week. :cool: I was carrying less muscle and more fat than I do now.
Hum. . . .My goal is sort of the antithesis of yours--to lose fat without losing too much muscle. I think the mirror is a much better measure than my demonic Omron.

For thee fair Emmie, this knave hast nay word nor thought of victuals. Now I must get me hence--Imps and trolls doth pursue after me.

ChocoChick
04-21-2007, 12:20 PM
What sort of diet input are you looking for, Emma, since you say you dont want to change the calories or macros.

In any case, if it's working, why mess with it? Or are you bored with the food choices? I wish I could eat as much dairy as you do -- it would make taking food to work so much easier. But I get too bloated from so much.

Do you eat/like any soy products?

jmc53
04-21-2007, 03:36 PM
Hi Emma,
I didn't realise that you don't eat meat.
I have a recipe for mild curry type dish that includes chickpeas, butterbeans, and lentils, that you can make a batch of and portion out in advance and then zap at work (I often make it for M to take to work with her). I make it with lean mince, but it works without the mince.
Let me know if you like legumes and I'll post the recipe.
As you probably know, some of the proteins in legumes are not "whole" and need to be eaten with some nuts or seeds to make "whole" protein - I can't remember all the info.
Have you ever had a post-workout shake as one of your meals?

tatdawg
04-21-2007, 03:49 PM
emma you have my utmost respect for being able to set up a diet plan like that and stick to it day after day. of course that would explain why your so buff. ;)

Lucky K
04-21-2007, 04:30 PM
Curious on 2 things:
Do you eat all of m#5 in one sitting or do you get breaks and nibble at other times?

And what do you think of sweet potatoes? I've recently read how they are some sorta great slow-digesting carb. So I've tried baking them (cubed in olive oil) but they were just so-so... Not sure if I'm gonna try something different with the 2 I just bought....

I have to cook in large batches and we eat all week long (lunches and a few dinners. W eats 2 lunches and 2 cans of tuna @ work:eek:) on the chicken he grills at the beginning of the week. I am a huge fan of mexican, and can wrap just about anything in a tortilla. Either burrito or taco style works well with eggs and cheese, and personally I'll occasionally use fried potatoes, avocados, low fat sour cream, fat-free refried beans, and of course hot sauce....just not with eggs, blechy!

egoatdoor
04-21-2007, 07:03 PM
:

I need some input and advice, please: I've completed the first 6 weeks of routines from the Killer Quads program. The next step is as below.




I'm not thrilled with the rep scheme, exercises, or volume. But I have found that I do well if I have a pre-designed, varying from week to week program that I simply have to FOLLOW. Does anyone have any ideas about other workout programs that a leg-day dreader like myself might want to try? My goal is to strengthen my legs and tighten up the rear. I'm not looking gain too much size-wise (except the calves). Any input will be gratefully received![/b]

Here are two programs I've used that you can consider. One was given to me by my trainer( who is a female pro) four years ago. Its called 20/15/12. After a warm up set, you do 3 working sets, the first is 20 reps with a light, but still challenging weight, the second, you add weight and do 15, the third ,add weight again and go to 12 reps or absolute failure, whichever comes first. If you are able to do more than 12 reps on the last set, you have to increase the weight the next time.

You can pick whatever exercises you want for each bodypart. My program rotated between two different routines, doing 2 exercises per part each workout:

#1 Seated calf raise Toe Press on leg press Standing Leg Curl Stiff BB
Deadlifts Leg Press Front Squats
#2 Standing Calf Raise Seated Calf Raise Lying Leg Curl Stiff DB Deadlifts
Leg Press w/ feet close together Squats

The 20/15/12 was different from anything I had done before and it worked great for me for about a year of using it off and on.

The other uses different rep ranges on each bodypart, which offers more variety than the "cookie cutter" 3 sets of 6-8 program and also works both the "fast twitch" and "slow twitch" muscle fibers, which over time should give more more muscle quality.

The leg program I liked was this:

Seated calf raises 3 sets of 15,12,10 reps
Standing calf raises 2 sets of 12, then 1 set of 20

Lying Leg Curls 4 sets of 15,12,10,8, then a drop set for a total of 20 reps
DB Stiff Deadlifts 3 sets of 12,10,10

2 warm up sets of leg extensions
Front Squats 3 sets of 12-15 reps
Leg Press 3 sets of 8(heavy)
Squats 1 set of 20
Walking BB Lunges 1 set of 15 reps on each leg

A warning that this program was a real killer, especially the drop sets followed by deadlifts for hams, then the 20 rep squats AFTER heavy leg presses and THEN the walking lunges. But if you want to strengthen your legs and tighten up that rear, this will do it.

jocularric
04-21-2007, 10:19 PM
Hi Emma,
I didn't realise that you don't eat meat.
I have a recipe for mild curry type dish that includes chickpeas, butterbeans, and lentils, that you can make a batch of and portion out in advance and then zap at work (I often make it for M to take to work with her). I make it with lean mince, but it works without the mince.
Let me know if you like legumes and I'll post the recipe.
As you probably know, some of the proteins in legumes are not "whole" and need to be eaten with some nuts or seeds to make "whole" protein - I can't remember all the info.
Good Sir Jason, a most excellent conceit! Yea, lentils be a tasty treat! If the Good Lady Emmie be nay a wanting thy prescription for a hearty lentil victuals perchance, ye being a noble soul, prithee post thy fare hereabout.


Have you ever had a post-workout shake as one of your meals?
Milady Emmie, Good Sir Jason be wise indeed. An hearty elixir of finest fare doth meet hunger in a timely hour. Or perchance a bar of victuals of thine own making?

Fair Lady Emmie, God give thee good. Godspeed!

jmc53
04-21-2007, 10:52 PM
Good Sir Jason, a most excellent conceit! Yea, lentils be a tasty treat! If the Good Lady Emmie be nay a wanting thy prescription for a hearty lentil victuals perchance, ye being a noble soul, prithee post thy fare hereabout.
LOL.
Here is the recipe with mince, veggo's just delete the mince, or subsitute an appropriate filler. I hope the terms translate into American - over here fry means cook over heat in a pan and no-one has a clue what the hell broiled means! (You may need to convert metric to the old fashioned numbers).
Dice 2 medium onions and fry in a pan with a dash of EVO.
Add 600g of lean mince.
Add the following spice mix: 1 teaspoon of coriander, 1tsp of cumin, 0.5 tsp of paprika, 0.5 tsp of curry powder, 0.5 tsp of turmeric, 0.33 tsp of cinnamon, 0.33 tsp of cloves.
EDIT: originally left out most important spice - 2tsp of garam masala
Fry until mince is brown and spices mixed through.
Pre-heat oven to 190C (375F).
Place in a covered casserole dish in oven for 20 minutes.
Add about 600g of each of chickpeas, butter beans and lentils (or the legumes of your choice) and about 200ml of tomato puree or similar.
Cook for another 20 minutes.
Add another 200ml of tomato puree or similar and stir-through.
Cook for another 20 minutes.
Voila!
Can be made with condensed tomato soup instead of puree, or fresh tomatos through the food processor - some tomato products have a fair bit of added sugar.
I sometimes eat it on it's own, or sometimes with brown rice.

ChocoChick
04-22-2007, 05:09 AM
Jason, are you using canned or dried benas/legume in that dish? I am thinking it must be canned as the dried wouldn't cook that quickly... Looks yummy. :)

jmc53
04-22-2007, 05:35 AM
Yes, canned.

emmie
04-22-2007, 06:57 AM
What sort of diet input are you looking for, Emma, since you say you dont want to change the calories or macros.

Do you eat/like any soy products?I guess I am looking for ideas on how to balance out the volume of food over the day. I felt like all I did yesterday before going to work was EAT. Not only was I feeling pretty full by the time I got to work, but I don't want to feel like I've got to watch the clock to make sure I have the time to eat everything I need to. I figured that about 1300 cals are consumed before 3:30, and the remainder between 8 and 12:30.

I am not a fan of soy products. They - and all beans - make me gassy. I do eat tofu occasionally. I don't like tempeh. I drink soymilk at times, and love edamame. I used to really like those fake cold-cuts, simply for their convenience. They're processed and kind of junky, but sometimes they fit the bill. They're probably the most easy soy product for me to eat


Let me know if you like legumes and I'll post the recipe.

Have you ever had a post-workout shake as one of your meals?The recipe sounds tasty! I don't eat a lot of beans. I've got it in my head that I get enough bang for my caloric buck with those (i.e. too many calories, not enough protein), but maybe I'll need to change my mind. I love curried stuff!

I just have that one protein shake pre-workout. Sometimes I'll add some whey to my cottage cheese or yoghurt, but I have tended to limit the whey to just 1 serving/day.


emma you have my utmost respect for being able to set up a diet plan like that and stick to it day after day. of course that would explain why your so insane. ;)Thanks, Tat, but I had to edit this for clarity. :D


Curious on 2 things:
Do you eat all of m#5 in one sitting or do you get breaks and nibble at other times? All at once, although I didn't eat the string cheese until I got in the car last night, and then ended up eating only half because I remembered that I'd be having cot. cheese, and felt that 500+ mg. of sodium right before bed probably wasn't such a great idea.


And what do you think of sweet potatoes? I've recently read how they are some sorta great slow-digesting carb. So I've tried baking them (cubed in olive oil) but they were just so-so... Not sure if I'm gonna try something different with the 2 I just bought....The peppers in M5 just replaced sweet potato. I had been eating 4 oz. (baked) w/ my lunch, and was sick of it, plus looking to trim some carbs (why trim them? I don't know...:o).
Basically I have been eating the egg casserole/green beans/sweet potato or pepper 5 days/week for the past 3 months. Something had to change!

I truly appreciate everyone's input!! :) I guess I wanted to see if anything was glaringly "wrong" with my plan to the outside observer. Yesterday was a bit of an experiment, and I think I'll do some tweaking to make it more convenient. I was also very hungry when I got home, and ravenous when I woke up this morning, so I might have to add some extra calories somewhere.

emmie
04-22-2007, 07:02 AM
Here are two programs I've used that you can consider. One was given to me by my trainer( who is a female pro) four years ago. Its called 20/15/12. After a warm up set, you do 3 working sets, the first is 20 reps with a light, but still challenging weight, the second, you add weight and do 15, the third ,add weight again and go to 12 reps or absolute failure, whichever comes first. If you are able to do more than 12 reps on the last set, you have to increase the weight the next time.

You can pick whatever exercises you want for each bodypart. My program rotated between two different routines, doing 2 exercises per part each workout:

#1 Seated calf raise Toe Press on leg press Standing Leg Curl Stiff BB
Deadlifts Leg Press Front Squats
#2 Standing Calf Raise Seated Calf Raise Lying Leg Curl Stiff DB Deadlifts
Leg Press w/ feet close together Squats


The other uses different rep ranges on each bodypart, which offers more variety than the "cookie cutter" 3 sets of 6-8 program and also works both the "fast twitch" and "slow twitch" muscle fibers, which over time should give more more muscle quality.

The leg program I liked was this:

Seated calf raises 3 sets of 15,12,10 reps
Standing calf raises 2 sets of 12, then 1 set of 20

Lying Leg Curls 4 sets of 15,12,10,8, then a drop set for a total of 20 reps
DB Stiff Deadlifts 3 sets of 12,10,10

2 warm up sets of leg extensions
Front Squats 3 sets of 12-15 reps
Leg Press 3 sets of 8(heavy)
Squats 1 set of 20
Walking BB Lunges 1 set of 15 reps on each leg

A warning that this program was a real killer, especially the drop sets followed by deadlifts for hams, then the 20 rep squats AFTER heavy leg presses and THEN the walking lunges. But if you want to strengthen your legs and tighten up that rear, this will do it.


Wow, both those programs look like killers :eek:. Thanks for sharing them, Ego! I like the first one better - the second one looks just plain scary! - but I'll keep both "on-file" as options for leg day. This was EXACTLY what I was looking for: a pre-designed routine. Thanks again. :)

Edit: "You must spread some reputation around before giving it to egoatdoor again." DRAT! :mad:

moisy
04-22-2007, 07:42 AM
Hi Emma, thanks for posting your meals ... I was always curious about what you ate since I knew that you are a vegetarian ;) I am similar to you too since I really don't eat a lot of meat, and love my egg whites!! :D That recipe that was posted in here with the curry and lentils sounds wonderful ... if you make it, you will have to let me know how you like it.

I saw Little Miss Sunshine about a week ago and loved it too - especially the scene at the end! :) We were killing ourselves laughing and crying!! lol :D However we saw Children of Men this weekend ... and to say the least it was a little confusing and hard to peice together since they left out vital information ... could have been a really good movie too based on the plot idea if more time had been taken to develop the story :( Oh well, you win some and you lose some!! lol

Have a good day! :)

emmie
04-22-2007, 09:40 AM
ut.
Milady Emmie, Good Sir Jason be wise indeed. An hearty elixir of finest fare doth meet hunger in a timely hour. Or perchance a bar of victuals of thine own making?

Fair Lady Emmie, God give thee good. Godspeed!Ric- Thanks for reminding me about the homemade protein bars. They were a staple in my dayn until.....well, I can't really remember why they lost favor with me. Anyhow, they might fit in nicely as a pre-bedtime addition. :)




I saw Little Miss Sunshine about a week ago and loved it too - especially the scene at the end! :) We were killing ourselves laughing and crying!! lol I'm trying to convince R. to watch it tonight (have to return it tomorrow). I'm convinced that he'll like it if he gives it a chance, but he's pretty picky about his movies (translation: he's an intellectual snob :p).

I will make a note to just walk on by when I see the Children of Man box at the video store - thanks for the warning!

On to the workout:

BICEPS + CHEST

** All sets done w/ a reverse pyramid rep scheme. **

Did biceps first again this week.


EZ Curls:
64# 5
60# 7
54# 13
48# 16
Slight increases in reps this week.

EZ Preachers:
54# 7
50# 11
44# 17
40# 21
Again, slight increases in reps. Wasn't really feeling these as intensely as I did last week.

Standing Hammer Curls:
24# DBs 10
20# DBs 15
15# DBs 10
Increased reps in sets 2 + 3.

This is where it starts to get ugly....

Slight Incline DB Press:
40# DBs Zip. Zilch. Nada one. I hauled R. down to the cellar to help me with these {he was thrilled :cool:}, but I could not get the weights into a position that would allow me to "lift-off". Felt a bad twinge in the shoulders. This is a continual source of bafflement, rapidly approaching frustration. Why can't I use this weight??? R. *helpfully* suggested (no less than 3 times) that "maybe you should just use a lighter weight?" I've been using a lighter weight for 6 freaking months, and can't understand why I can't move on. HELP!!

35# DBs 14 Do you see why I'm frustrated?? 14 reps at a weight that's only 5# less, but not a single rep at the higher weight. :mad:
30# DBs 16
24# DBs 20

Slight Incline Flys:
35# DBs 8
30# DBs 10
24# DBs 20

Flat BB Bench: Don't ask.

I'm pleased with the biceps portion of the workout. The chest portion = PFFFFT! Anyhow, it was better than nothing at all, and I'm glad I got it done.

May I complain and whine some more, please? Thank you.

I am feeling very out of sorts with the schedual. Got up today @ 9:30. That felt very strange. The sun was out. It's 12:30 now and I've eaten just the first 2 meals. I am full. I don't want to "have to" eat the rest of the food I've planned out. I just want to eat when I want. I - and my digestive system :o - don't like being stuffed full of food all at once. I tried to talk to R. about it, but he's an intuitive eater who never weighs, measures, over-analyzes what he eats. "I need calories" is what he'll say, and then he eats. Am I being too neurotic about this? Should I just screw the macros and eat simply to get the calories? I try to eat 40% pro, 30% fat, 30% CHO - but why? Because it's a b.b. mantra?? This is getting ridiculous.

You know what? Basically what I'm saying is that this schedual change is upsetting to my routine. When changes occur in my life, my long-standing coping mechanism is to focus on food, since it's something I can control when everything else seems out of hands.

I'm glad I can vent here, and if anyone has read all of this (I hope you put on your hip-waders beforehand), you deserve a prize.

Lucky K
04-22-2007, 01:42 PM
Slight Incline DB Press:
40# DBs Zip. Zilch. Nada one. I hauled R. down to the cellar to help me with these {he was thrilled :cool:}, but I could not get the weights into a position that would allow me to "lift-off". Felt a bad twinge in the shoulders. This is a continual source of bafflement, rapidly approaching frustration. Why can't I use this weight??? R. *helpfully* suggested (no less than 3 times) that "maybe you should just use a lighter weight?" I've been using a lighter weight for 6 freaking months, and can't understand why I can't move on. HELP!!
Have you considering doing chest before biceps?? If there is no way for you to *invent* a 37 or 38# weight then you seriously should consider doing them earlier in the workout. IMHO:)


35# DBs 14 Do you see why I'm frustrated?? 14 reps at a weight that's only 5# less, but not a single rep at the higher weight. :mad:
Yes, I see and you have a right to feel that way! Keep at it, slight changes and your natural determination will get you there:D


May I complain and whine some more, please? Thank you.
Isn't that the point of having this journal? God knows W gets tired of hearing me!


This is getting ridiculous.
Yes, it sure it easy to hit that ridiculous point! Maybe don't worry/count your macros until you get the sleep part down. Listen to your belly:) It would probably be a good change, of course, I like alot more change in my diet than you do! Just keep something handy in case the hunger strikes!

When the sleep patterns regulate, you'll feel better about all of this, and you'll be stronger to boot!

ChocoChick
04-22-2007, 02:17 PM
Should I just screw the macros and eat simply to get the calories? I try to eat 40% pro, 30% fat, 30% CHO - but why? Because it's a b.b. mantra??

Emma, your macros should be the result of your needs, not the other way 'round. In other words, you want to eat ~1g protein per pound and then .3-.4g fat per pound and the rest from carbs. Whatever that works out to in terms of percentages is what you should be shooting for.

Somehow, some early caveman bber figured out that his macros were 40/40/20 (or 40/30/30) and this became gospel. But it's nuts and counter-productive imnsho to approach eating this way.

So yes, by all means, favor a more intuitive approach, especially if you are confident that you have your basics covered. (I have to log my food or I would never get enough protein, as I don't intuitively favor them. For some reason, I am too neurotic/nervous to see what would happen if I ate less protein and more carbs, which is what my intuition would like!).

Happy Sunday.

jmc53
04-22-2007, 03:10 PM
TO THOSE WHO LIKED THE RECIPE:
I originally left out the most important spice - I went back and edited it into the recipe.

Emma,
Do me a favor and try this next time on the dumbell press - this is a weight acclimation technique to help you lift your top weight.
Do 20# x 6, 25# x 6, 30# x 3, 35# x 1 ... before you try the first set at 40#, taking a short rest between each warm-up set. When you pick up the 40's they should feel much lighter than when you pick them up to begin with.
If it doesn't work, I'll run naked around my house screaming I am an idiot :)

Nice workout.

Lucky K
04-22-2007, 04:21 PM
If it doesn't work, I'll run naked around my house screaming I am an idiot
Anyone got a web cam???:D

tatdawg
04-22-2007, 04:38 PM
i don't mean any offence to anyone but i believe if your not competing then don't stress over every ounce. to each his own but i don't count anything. i know about what i need to eat and i try to stay close to it but i don't lose no sleep over straying a bit. moderation in all things. if you could only see yourself the way others see you then you would understand what i mean. life is to short to count every speck of every meal. just my opinion and i am really nobody.

V-240
04-22-2007, 05:34 PM
That's a point. My coaches always say 90% effort in things like this will yield pretty close to 100% results. Apparently this is true, because even with all the dietary glitches I've had, I have gained LBM and still lost 27 lbs as of last week. So don't sweat it.

Luvdogs
04-22-2007, 08:35 PM
The diet is frustrating Emma. I fell off the wagon this weekend and I am competing in 12 weeks! But you know what? It actually felt good to sit at a dinner and NOT over analize everything I ate. Now I need to get right back on track, but it was a nice little break.

When I've gotten stuck at a weight I couldn't get up by myself, I started to use the chest machine. That might be banned by some too, but better machines than a bar across my neck! :D

egoatdoor
04-22-2007, 09:37 PM
This is where it starts to get ugly....

Slight Incline DB Press:
40# DBs Zip. Zilch. Nada one. I hauled R. down to the cellar to help me with these {he was thrilled :cool:}, but I could not get the weights into a position that would allow me to "lift-off". Felt a bad twinge in the shoulders. This is a continual source of bafflement, rapidly approaching frustration. Why can't I use this weight??? R. *helpfully* suggested (no less than 3 times) that "maybe you should just use a lighter weight?" I've been using a lighter weight for 6 freaking months, and can't understand why I can't move on. HELP!!

35# DBs 14 Do you see why I'm frustrated?? 14 reps at a weight that's only 5# less, but not a single rep at the higher weight. :mad:





Emma, I feel your pain. I've got the same problem on my dumbbell inclines. I'm at the point where I can't get the weight up, but the next lower weight, I can do many reps easy. :( :mad:

I agree with Lucky K that you should try doing the chest before biceps and see if that helps. You should be fresher with more energy and your arms won't be fatigued, which could be part of the problem. Another option is to either drop the exercise all together and replace it with barbells or a Smith Machine, or do a drop set. Do as many as you can at 35, then pick up a lighter weight( I usually drop by 50%) and do any many as you can with that with no rest between sets.

egoatdoor
04-22-2007, 09:41 PM
Emma,
Do me a favor and try this next time on the dumbell press - this is a weight acclimation technique to help you lift your top weight.
Do 20# x 6, 25# x 6, 30# x 3, 35# x 1 ... before you try the first set at 40#, taking a short rest between each warm-up set. When you pick up the 40's they should feel much lighter than when you pick them up to begin with.
If it doesn't work, I'll run naked around my house screaming I am an idiot :)

Nice workout.

I also think this is a good idea."Positive" pyramids have always worked better for me than reverse pyramids.

egoatdoor
04-22-2007, 09:44 PM
That might be banned by some too, but better machines than a bar across my neck! :D

Julia, good point. DC Training says to use machines like the Smith so that you DO NOT get stuck with a barbell on your neck. :D

jocularric
04-23-2007, 03:15 AM
Emma,
Do me a favor and try this next time on the dumbell press - this is a weight acclimation technique to help you lift your top weight.
Do 20# x 6, 25# x 6, 30# x 3, 35# x 1 ... before you try the first set at 40#, taking a short rest between each warm-up set. When you pick up the 40's they should feel much lighter than when you pick them up to begin with.
I had to use this technique last week when I failed to go up on my incline shoulder shrugs. At first I couldn't even lift what I had the previous week. Mental block. This technique got me past that.

I'm going to throw in two other techniques into the fray of excellent suggestions already given.

One other tool you can use to help with your DB Presses is negatives. Here you use a weight that is 105% of your 1RM. What is you 1RM?

You can use this formula: weight/(1.0278-(.0278*reps)) to find you approximate 1RM. Or simply go here (http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/orm.htm) and use the calculator. (Note: As you go up in the number of reps the less accurate this is.) But I've all ready done that for you. With your DB presses your 105% 1RM is approximately 58#.

You'll be working the eccentric (muscle-lengthening) portion of the movement. Get R to hand you the weights at the top. Now lower the weight slowly (3 to 5 sec.) working against gravity. You really need to be pushing. At the bottom have R assist you lifting the weights back to the start. Try to get three sets of six reps. Doing that should be enough. If you need more stimulation increase the weight not the sets or reps. These can be brutal.

If R is not around you can do these unilaterally. This makes this technique a great core developer too. Here you use both hands to get the weight into place and then lower it using one hand and the 3 to 5 sec. rule. And repeat.

The second technique is the use of lockouts. Here you want to use near your 1RM max or more. You do your lift using only the top third or quarter of your ROM. The idea is to get your brain and tendons used to handling heavier weight. Do one or two sets 3 to 5 reps of these after your regular DB Press workout.

egoatdoor
04-23-2007, 03:55 AM
into the fray of excellent suggestions already given.

One other tool you can use to help with your DB Presses is negatives. Here you use a weight that is 105% of your 1RM. What is you 1RM?

You can use this formula: weight/(1.0278-(.0278*reps)) to find you approximate 1RM. Or simply go here (http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/orm.htm) and use the calculator. (Note: As you go up in the number of reps the less accurate this is.) But I've all ready done that for you. With your DB presses your 105% 1RM is approximately 58#.

Am I missing something here? She can't lift a 40 off the floor, so how is she going to lift a 58 pounder???



The second technique is the use of lockouts. Here you want to use near your 1RM max or more. You do your lift using only the top third or quarter of your ROM. The idea is to get your brain and tendons used to handling heavier weight. Do one or two sets 3 to 5 reps of these after your regular DB Press workout.

Lockouts are dangerous with dumbbells and even barbells in some cases. If they are to be considered, it should be done on a Smith Machine so the bar can be easily re racked if the person gets stuck.

I wouldn't want to read Emmie's obituary here.... :(

Hibiscus09
04-23-2007, 04:20 AM
i don't mean any offence to anyone but i believe if your not competing then don't stress over every ounce. to each his own but i don't count anything. i know about what i need to eat and i try to stay close to it but i don't lose no sleep over straying a bit. moderation in all things. if you could only see yourself the way others see you then you would understand what i mean. life is to short to count every speck of every meal. just my opinion and i am really nobody.

I think I am in love with you. :D I couldn't agree more. This lifestyle will make you plum crazy if you allow it to. :p

Hi Emma!! I loved "Little Miss Sunshine"!! What a hilarious movie! :)

moisy
04-23-2007, 04:56 AM
Happy Monday morning ... I hope!!

I am in agreement with the above two posts ... just listen to your body and what it needs ... you do not have to follow some set of macros just because someone else does or told you to. You know your body the best! ;) I tend to eat more carbs than most because "I" need them and make sure that I get around 100g of protein a day and then work everything else into my total calories for the day.

BUt like Julia said, it is so nice to enjoy a meal without stressing and that is what I do on the weekends when I go out. I don't want to miss out on fun social things and just watch it. Like I had the best tuna steak this weekend with a thin crsut of mango and coconut and grilled veggies [who knows what they were grilled in lol but damn good] and two wine etc. :p I enjoyed it and did not stress about all the ingredients.

Life is TOO SHORT not to enjoy it!! :D I don't want to look back in 25 years and wish that I had had that half pint of Ben and Gerry's Yogurt Cherry Garcia
... which I did on saturday night!!! :D :p

So enjoy yourself!! ;)

Hibiscus09
04-23-2007, 05:49 AM
Like I had the best tuna steak this weekend with a thin crsut of mango and coconut and grilled veggies [who knows what they were grilled in lol but damn good] and two wine etc. :p I enjoyed it and did not stress about all the ingredients.

Life is TOO SHORT not to enjoy it!! :D I don't want to look back in 25 years and wish that I had had that half pint of Ben and Gerry's Yogurt Cherry Garcia
... which I did on saturday night!!! :D :p

So enjoy yourself!! ;)

Yum -- everything you named is stuff I love. :D

jocularric
04-23-2007, 06:03 AM
Am I missing something here? She can't lift a 40 off the floor, so how is she going to lift a 58 pounder???

Lockouts are dangerous with dumbbells and even barbells in some cases. If they are to be considered, it should be done on a Smith Machine so the bar can be easily re racked if the person gets stuck.

I wouldn't want to read Emmie's obituary here.... :(
Huh? :eek: I am confused egoatdoor? If I have offended you in some way--if so it certainly was not intentional.

Do you feel I am endangering Emmie? I would never ask her to do something that would put her in harms way. Emma had asked for suggestions. I suggested two techniques that are used regularly and safely for over coming plateaus. Why are these techniques of any less value to Emmie?

Is there something I don't understand or know? Am I out of line here?

I realize that she hasn't incline DB pressed 40#. But saying she can't lift 40# off the floor is not true. She has! She curls with 64#, SLDL 85#, overhead presses 78#, rows 110#, and armpit rows 40# DB. She certainly CAN lift more than 40# off the floor. And she can lift 58#. With the amount of reps she is doing and the weight she is moving in her other lifts I feel this is more a mental block than a physical one.

Both of the techniques I offered address this issue and prepare the body and mind to lift heavier weights. With a spotter (If you read my post you'll notice that I suggested she have R (husband?) there to assist. I also pointed out that she could do these unilaterally. Using both hands to lift one DB at 60# is less than what she lifts when pressing two 35#.

And lifting unilaterally no more inherently dangerous than lifting bi-laterally--maybe even safer. With a DB, if she runs into problems there is no danger of getting trapped under the bar--it?s a dumbbell. Push it off to the side and let it drop to the floor. This also addresses the concerns of doing lockouts. If she gets stuck under a dumbbell push it off the side, let it drop to the floor.

I too would not want to see Emmie's obituary here and I don?t believe my suggestions would lead to that. I did not suggest that she go and try to move heavy weights willy-nilly and throw caution to the wind. I don't think that wise and I don't see Emmie as the reckless type. I believe she practices due prudence when lifting.

emmie
04-23-2007, 06:11 AM
THANKS, EVERYONE!! WHAT A SHOWER OF SUPPORT, HERE!! :)


Have you considering doing chest before biceps?? If there is no way for you to *invent* a 37 or 38# weight then you seriously should consider doing them earlier in the workout. Actually, Kristen, up until the past two weeks, I was doing chest before biceps. And there have been weeks when I've been able to do 5 reps w/ the 40's, without any assistance....so my fluctuating capabilities are also a source of frustration. The first time I used the 40's, R helped me. That was close to 6 months ago! SIX MONTHS without progress.

Listen to your belly:) It would probably be a good change, of course, I like alot more change in my diet than you do! Just keep something handy in case the hunger strikes!That's what I did yesterday. And it felt much better. I over-analyze when I'm stressed out. Felling a little better now.



So yes, by all means, favor a more intuitive approach, especially if you are confident that you have your basics covered. (I have to log my food or I would never get enough protein, as I don't intuitively favor them. For some reason, I am too neurotic/nervous to see what would happen if I ate less protein and more carbs, which is what my intuition would like!).

I've come to like eating more protein than I used to, as it seems to keep me feeling fuller than carbs do. But I do love carb-y foods (bread and bread, to be exact), and reaching for something carb-rich rather than protein-rich is my inclination simply from the "yum" standpoint. I'm sure I've got the bases covered, and being a little looser with the other stuff will make life easier for me. It's not like I have a sweet-tooth, or junk-food tooth, or need to worry about overeating. But being in control of my food is something of a habit for me, and it can get a little over-the-top sometimes.



Emma,
Do me a favor and try this next time on the dumbell press - this is a weight acclimation technique to help you lift your top weight.
Do 20# x 6, 25# x 6, 30# x 3, 35# x 1 ... before you try the first set at 40#, taking a short rest between each warm-up set. When you pick up the 40's they should feel much lighter than when you pick them up to begin with.
If it doesn't work, I'll run naked around my house screaming I am an idiot :)

Will do! I'll try to get over my fear that I am pre-fatiguing my muscles by such an extensive warm-up. I did wonder if, after the set of 14 @ 35#s, I should attempt the 40's, but my first 3 (:o) attempts left an unfriendly twinge in my left shoulder, so I skipped it.


The diet is frustrating Emma. I fell off the wagon this weekend and I am competing in 12 weeks! But you know what? It actually felt good to sit at a dinner and NOT over analize everything I ate. Now I need to get right back on track, but it was a nice little break.

When I've gotten stuck at a weight I couldn't get up by myself, I started to use the chest machine. That might be banned by some too, but better machines than a bar across my neck! :DI thought about trying the machines for a few weeks, just to get out of the rut. I may have to cave in and go to the gym for chest day. I like my Sunday morning basement routine, just me, my satellite radio, and the cat box. :D



I agree with Lucky K that you should try doing the chest before biceps and see if that helps. You should be fresher with more energy and your arms won't be fatigued, which could be part of the problem. Another option is to either drop the exercise all together and replace it with barbells or a Smith Machine, or do a drop set. Do as many as you can at 35, then pick up a lighter weight( I usually drop by 50%) and do any many as you can with that with no rest between sets.I like the drop set option, since I've been doing chest before biceps up until 2 weeks ago. Some weeks I could bust out a few reps with the 40s. But you are right: the past two weeks when I've tried after training biceps (and pushing those harder than I have been in past weeks), I haven't been able to move the 40's much at all. I got 4 reps last week, but none this week. Drop sets are kind of fun for me



One other tool you can use to help with your DB Presses is negatives. Here you use a weight that is 105% of your 1RM. What is you 1RM?

You can use this formula: weight/(1.0278-(.0278*reps)) to find you approximate 1RM. Or simply go here (http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/orm.htm) and use the calculator. (Note: As you go up in the number of reps the less accurate this is.) But I've all ready done that for you. With your DB presses your 105% 1RM is approximately 58#.

You'll be working the eccentric (muscle-lengthening) portion of the movement. Get R to hand you the weights at the top. Now lower the weight slowly (3 to 5 sec.) working against gravity. You really need to be pushing. At the bottom have R assist you lifting the weights back to the start. Try to get three sets of six reps. Doing that should be enough. If you need more stimulation increase the weight not the sets or reps. These can be brutal.

If R is not around you can do these unilaterally. This makes this technique a great core developer too. Here you use both hands to get the weight into place and then lower it using one hand and the 3 to 5 sec. rule. And repeat.

The second technique is the use of lockouts. Here you want to use near your 1RM max or more. You do your lift using only the top third or quarter of your ROM. The idea is to get your brain and tendons used to handling heavier weight. Do one or two sets 3 to 5 reps of these after your regular DB Press workout.Good suggestions, Ric! I would need to hire someone to help with those negative (you busy next Sunday??), as I highly suspect that R would be thoroughly uninterested in the scheme. But I've heard good things about negatives. Doing them on the Smith machine, or some other device might be the way to go.


Am I missing something here? She can't lift a 40 off the floor, so how is she going to lift a 58 pounder???Well, I don't have a 58# DB, so that sort of puts and end to that. But woking on negatives w/ the 40# Db (probably unilaterally) might be an option.

emmie
04-23-2007, 06:35 AM
i don't mean any offence to anyone but i believe if your not competing then don't stress over every ounce. to each his own but i don't count anything. i know about what i need to eat and i try to stay close to it but i don't lose no sleep over straying a bit. moderation in all things. if you could only see yourself the way others see you then you would understand what i mean. life is to short to count every speck of every meal. just my opinion and i am really nobody.You are certainly not "nobody", and your perspective is a healthy reminder that life is much more than 40% of this and 30% of that. My checkered-past (we all have 'em!) with disordered eating has left some habits that die-hard. I probably wont ever be able to eat absolutely freely, with disregard to calories, or some macro or another. Sometimes I can be loose (bet that makes you happy to hear! ;)), but when things are in flux, I tend to tighten up the reigns. :(


That's a point. My coaches always say 90% effort in things like this will yield pretty close to 100% results. Apparently this is true, because even with all the dietary glitches I've had, I have gained LBM and still lost 27 lbs as of last week. So don't sweat it.Your coaches are right!



Hi Emma!! I loved "Little Miss Sunshine"!! What a hilarious movie! :)Hi Diane! I was so disappointed that I couldn't convince R to watch that movie last night. He's so stubborn - I know he would have loved it, too!



. Like I had the best tuna steak this weekend with a thin crsut of mango and coconut and grilled veggies [who knows what they were grilled in lol but damn good] and two wine etc. :p I enjoyed it and did not stress about all the ingredients. Sounds like a great meal, Moisy! You've got some good advice, and you have a very healthy outlook about diet/food. Are you giving lessons, by any chance?? I've gotten much better abouls allowing myself pleasurable foods over the years. (Did someone say cheese??!? :D) I am hoping that I'll continue to evolve - and trust my body - to allow even more good stuff. Plenty of folks on here seem to know how to enjoy good food - and they've got some splendid physiques as proof.


So I've gotten 2 evening shifts under my belt. Very different atmosphere. Very different. The first night was really quiet. Sitting around, reading the newspaper or looking at the Internet kind of quiet. Last night had moments of that, but a couple of patients weren't doing well, so that made things busy. I am not someone who likes to sit around at work, doing nothing. even if I am being paid well for my time. So I did a lot of tidying, neatening, puttering around during the quiet times. My co-workers are nice. Definitely a more raucous crew than the day shift. A lot of bull****ting and bantering. Much discussion about which pizza place to order dinner from. Lots of Internet surfing. But when there is a job to do, it gets done, and the patients get good care. The time passes pretty quickly, and I've gotten out at midnight both nights. So far, so good!

Going to the gym now. It's so LATE!!! :)

emmie
04-23-2007, 06:45 AM
Do you feel I am endangering Emmie? I would never ask her to do something that would put her in harms way. Emma had asked for suggestions. I suggested two techniques that are used regularly and safely for over coming plateaus. Why are these techniques of any less value to Emmie? I was seeking a variety of perpectives and advice on my little "problem", and I welcome them all. Nothing you said was out of line, or reckless, Ric, fear not! I like hearing a wide-range of opinions. And ultimately I decide for myself what will work for me. I'm not someone who blindly follows advice without considering it's pertinence or benefit.


I realize that she hasn't incline DB pressed 40#.Oh yes she has!! :p
But saying she can't lift 40# off the floor is not true. She has! She curls with 64#, SLDL 85#, overhead presses 78#, rows 110#, and armpit rows 40# DB. She certainly CAN lift more than 40# off the floor.Damn right, my friend!! :D
And she can lift 58#.Absolutely!! With two hands! :p


I too would not want to see Emmie's obituary here and I don?t believe my suggestions would lead to that. I did not suggest that she go and try to move heavy weights willy-nilly and throw caution to the wind. I don't think that wise and I don't see Emmie as the reckless type. I believe she practices due prudence when lifting.You are 100% right. :) While my frustration w/ my lack of progress may make me sound like I'm loony, I am completely uninterested in sustaining an injury, just so that I can appease my ego.

Lucky K
04-23-2007, 12:44 PM
Actually, Kristen, up until the past two weeks, I was doing chest before biceps. And there have been weeks when I've been able to do 5 reps w/ the 40's, without any assistance....so my fluctuating capabilities are also a source of frustration. The first time I used the 40's, R helped me. That was close to 6 months ago! SIX MONTHS without progress.
That's what I did yesterday. And it felt much better. I over-analyze when I'm stressed out. Felling a little better now.


I apologize for not double checking on that! I, myself do consider it progress when I move something later into the workout and can still do as many reps:) But then I also tend to give up (or take a break from)on a particular exercise when feeling frustrated about not getting any stronger on it. So, congratulations on sticking with it!:D

jmc53
04-23-2007, 03:43 PM
Will do! I'll try to get over my fear that I am pre-fatiguing my muscles by such an extensive warm-up. I did wonder if, after the set of 14 @ 35#s, I should attempt the 40's, but my first 3 (:o) attempts left an unfriendly twinge in my left shoulder, so I skipped it.
Worrying about pre-fatigue is sensible, but the weights and reps I suggested won't fatigue you, just get you prepared for the 40's.


I am not someone who likes to sit around at work, doing nothing. even if I am being paid well for my time. So I did a lot of tidying, neatening, puttering around during the quiet times. My co-workers are nice. Definitely a more raucous crew than the day shift. :)
I bet your co-workers will love you Emma if you keep up the tidying so they can focus on the internet and ordering pizza ;)
Cool that it's a relaxed vibe in the evenings.

egoatdoor
04-23-2007, 03:53 PM
I realize that she hasn't incline DB pressed 40#. But saying she can't lift 40# off the floor is not true. She has! She curls with 64#, SLDL 85#, overhead presses 78#, rows 110#, and armpit rows 40# DB. She certainly CAN lift more than 40# off the floor. And she can lift 58#. With the amount of reps she is doing and the weight she is moving in her other lifts I feel this is more a mental block than a physical one.

I wasn't offended, but if she said herself she could not get the 40s up into position to start her reps on incline presses. So again, how could she possibly do a set with 58 pounds???? She can't get the weight into the proper position to start.


With a DB, if she runs into problems there is no danger of getting trapped under the bar--it?s a dumbbell. Push it off to the side and let it drop to the floor. This also addresses the concerns of doing lockouts. If she gets stuck under a dumbbell push it off the side, let it drop to the floor.
I still think a Smith Machine is safer. Remember its an incline. If she loses the weight or tears a muscle at the top of the lockout, it could come crashing down on her head.

As for dropping the dumbbell to the side after a set, I used to do that and it was one of factors in causing a severe rotator cuff strain 7 years ago that put me out of commission for 3 months (and this many years later, my left shoulder still has never gotten its full strength back). Anatomically, that puts alot of strain on the joints. I learned in physical therapy that the proper way is always to push the weights forward when you are done on chest and shoulder exercises, not to the side or back.

This is nothing personal, but I think some of this is dangerous.