Ice's Sponsored EPIC 8-BetaAnabol Log

[hotasice2003]

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What specifically does 8-BetaAnabol do?
8-BetaAnabol is the world’s first performance nutrition drink shown to augment the benefits of training on muscle growth, strength, and endurance when consumed during workouts. Several well documented studies have demonstrated that the exact blend of essential amino acids and carbohydrates found in 8-BetaAnabol will increase the anabolic response of resistance training, reduce the damage associated with high intensity exercise, and accelerate recovery between workouts. The non-essential amino acid, Beta-Alanine increases carnosine levels in the muscle which in turn increases training volume, improves endurance, delays neuromuscular fatigue and increases anaerobic threshold.

What science backs up these claims?
Recently documented studies show that correct ratio of carbohydrate/essential amino acid ingestion around the time of exercise modifies the acute biochemical events associated with resistance training, shifting the exercise induced hormonal profile toward a profile more favorable for positive protein balance. Specifically, the response of insulin and cortisol as they are intimately involved in protein turnover.

Another recent study examined the effects of Beta-Alanine supplementation on physical working capacity at fatigue threshold (PWCFT) and anaerobic threshold in men. The results revealed a significantly greater increase in PWCFT of 14% over placebo and 11% increase in anaerobic threshold.

Greater work capacity equals more reps and more sets in a given training session. It means more workload volume at a higher
intensity along with less fatigue. That means more growth, strength and better endurance.

What type of athletes will benefit from taking 8-BetaAnabol? Men and women?
8-BetaAnabol will benefit bodybuilders, strength and power athletes and all types of endurance athletes - men and women alike! Recent studies using women have demonstrated that the key ingredients found in 8-BetaAnabol augmented the anabolic effects of resistance training along with significantly improving physical workload and endurance.

What is the Serving Size? How many servings are in each tub?
A serving of 8-BetaAnabol is 1 scoop. There are 20 servings in each container. These are true servings, 1 scoop mixed in 8-12 oz of water and consumed over 30-45 minutes, during your workout. It is not necessary to take 8-BetaAnabol on off days, and no loading or cycling is required.

Only 1 scoop of 8-BetaAnabol is needed on training days – compare that to our competitors!

Is 8-BetaAnabol safe? Are there any side affects?
8-BetaAnabol is extremely safe. The nine grams of amino acids found in 8-BetaAnabol are less than what is found in your typical 20g protein shake. The neuron stimulating effects of 8-BetaAnabol may cause a slight tingling in some users allowing them to know that they are taking real Beta-Alanine.

Can I stack 8-BetaAnabol with other supplements?
Supplementing with 5-TETRA™ may increase the effectiveness of 8-BetaAnabol. One of the benefits of 5-TETRA is increased blood flow to the working muscles. This in-turn helps increase the delivery of key nutrients found in 8-BetaAnabol to enhance the anabolic process of training. 8-BetaAnabol can also be stacked with your favorite sport supplements.


Notes
I will start this log whenever 8-BetaAnabol arrives........ I will change NOTHING during the entire course of this log. I wll keep my diet and macros the same, and will train the same. (I began DC today) This will allow me to effectively examine and test the product....... my current during workout nutrition has been the following..... 1.25 scoop WPI, 6 scoops XTEND, and half scoop Gatorade. I will cut the Gatorade, and will reduce the WPI to 1 scoop, and will add one serving of 8-BetaAnabol....... on cardio days, I have been having the same thing except just 4 scoops XTEND........ I will begin sipping this 15 min pre-wo, sip all the way through the workout, and then finish off whatever is left, immediately pwo. I will looking at how this effects my endurance, strength, recovery, etc........ My thanks go out to EPIC for allowing me to test this product :)

[hotasice2003]

The product arrived today........ today is a cardio day for me, so I will not be taking it....... I will start this log tomorrow, but will probably not post until tomorrow night because of school........

[HalleluYAH]

Looking forward to seeing you initial thoughts.

*subscribed*

[hotasice2003]

Well, I took my first dose of 8-BetaAnabol today!

Mixability: 10/10! This mixed great! I put one scoop in my shaker bootle, along with 2 scoops XTEND, I scoop WPI, and 10g bulk BCAA's, and 3g bulk citrulline malate. I added my water, gave the shaker about 40 vigourous shakes, and took a drink. There was no clumping of any kind, and no grittiness.( is that a word )

Taste: 8/10 I don't think this tastes like Fruit Punch at all lol. It taste like bubble gum! However, it tastes very good, and it made a nice bubble gum/grape flavor.

Performance: 10/10 Energy levels and strength were great. However, I have been taking 30g sugars during my workout for awhile now, so I wasn't looking to get a boost in that sense. It is too early to examine the benefits of the BA.

As I said, I did not feel any extra boost today, because I have been taking sugars in during my workout already. I expect to start seeing some differences in about 1.5-2 weeks, as intromuscular CARN levels become elevated. that is what I am mainly after...... for those that haven't been taking any kind of during workout shake, I believe 8-BetaAnabol would be great! 35g of Dex is a perfect amount IMO, and the 6g of EAA's have been shown to be an amount that has tremendous affects on protein synthesis when combined with CHO. And, to top it all off, you have the BA!

Tomorrow is an off day for me, but I will take another dose, one because I just want to lol, and two because I want to taste the product by itself, so I can give a better review....... stay tuned!

[hotasice2003]

Ok, today I mixed up one serving all by itself, so now I can give you a better review.

Mixability: still 10/10...... today I used a see-through bottle, and I could what was going on. It mixed very well, and there was only a very slight amount that was at the bottom that did not quite dissolve. However, it was no problem......

Taste: 10/10 ok, it does taste like fruit punch now, but it does still have some of a bubble gum taste. I like it though!..... very nice taste........

performance: no workout today......

[hotasice2003]

To all who are following, my dosage for the remainder of the log will be one scoop on workout days, and 1/2 scoop on cardio days....... so, this should be the log duration at a little over a month......... had a great workout yesterday, and just got done with a great cardio session........ I had a little stomach discomfort, but I think this was to do to running to soon after my pre-wo meal, and not the 8-BetaAnabol. I ate, and the drank 1/3 of my shake 1.5hrs later, and then ran 30min after that. I usually drink a 1/3 of the shake 2 hrs post-meal, and then run 30min later, but I was more hungry at 1.5 hrs, so I thought I would go ahead aand run, which was a mistake....... will go back to 2 hrs, and report again.......

[hotasice2003]

I just got done performing a session of HIIT, and it was great! Like I said yesterday, I waited 2 hrs after my pre-wo meal, to drink 1/3 of my shake, and then I ran 30min later...... drank 1/3 during the workout, and consumed the rest immediately post. Energy was higher than normal, and no GI disomfort at all..........

[hotasice2003]

No one following? lol I guess it is a kinda boring log, but there is not much to report. BA supplementation takes about 2 weeks to really start seeing results, but I have an excellant workout today! Reps went up considerably...... check my workout log for details.......

[HalleluYAH]

No one following? lol I guess it is a kinda boring log, but there is not much to report. BA supplementation takes about 2 weeks to really start seeing results, but I have an excellant workout today! Reps went up considerably...... check my workout log for details.......
You've been taking for about one week right? Have you ever used Beta-Alanine (BA) before?

Also, are you still cutting?

[hotasice2003]

You've been taking for about one week right? Have you ever used Beta-Alanine (BA) before?

Also, are you still cutting?


Hey Hal....... today was the 5th day of supplementation. I have never used BA before, except for once, and that was when I drank an Extreme Shock by ANSI. That stuff was INTENSE, and my whole body tingled. It is a propriety blend, so I am unsure of the amount of BA........ I have also began bulking, but am only on 2700 kcals...... I was on that about 2 weeks prior to 8-BetaAnabol, and will leave it there, so I can accurately gauge the product's effectiveness......

[hotasice2003]

Just completed another EXCELLANT cardio session. Energy was MUCh higher than usual. I upped the intensity this time, and completed it with ease, and could have gone farther. I had planned this out after my other run, and thought that it would be tough today, but nope. The energy here was weird. I wasn't in the mood at all to go running because I was tired from class, and sore as heck from squats yesterday, BUT, aside from all that, once I started running, I felt awesome. I believe the BA is starting to kick in :)

[sobelik]

Hey Hal....... today was the 5th day of supplementation. I have never used BA before, except for once, and that was when I drank an Extreme Shock by ANSI. That stuff was INTENSE, and my whole body tingled. It is a propriety blend, so I am unsure of the amount of BA........ I have also began bulking, but am only on 2700 kcals...... I was on that about 2 weeks prior to 8-BetaAnabol, and will leave it there, so I can accurately gauge the product's effectiveness......
that Extreme shock stuff is pretty darn good..... good log man

[hotasice2003]

Check my log for today's workout...... strength continues to rise........

[hotasice2003]

Well, just got done with another cardio session, and once again, I increased intensity, and completed the session with ease........ 8-BetaAnabol is really giving me some amzing endurance. I don't really seem to notice it during my weight lifting sessions that much, even though strength is rising, but my HIIT sessions are great......... I will post before and after stats of my lifts and runs and weight........

[solarize]

Nice log. It seems with a few people once you get the dose right for beta-alanine the extra endurance really starts to be noticed.

[hotasice2003]

Nice log. It seems with a few people once you get the dose right for beta-alanine the extra endurance really starts to be noticed.


Thanks........ all I know is that cardio endurance is through the roof :)

[Quelly]

Thanks........ all I know is that cardio endurance is through the roof :)

Nice log, good to see that you are getting some good results from it :)

[hotasice2003]

....had an excellant workout today! Weights and reps increased again...... check log for details.......

[hotasice2003]

Once again, had an excellant workout...... I don't have much to report. You really need to check my log to see the results I am getting...... it is quite amazing....... once again, I have been taking the 8-BetaAnabol PWO, and not during. I have recently changed my stance on taking in CHO during a wrokout. I feel it is not needed on a bulk. I will, however, incoporate them in my during wo shake, the next time as I cut........ I did notice the tingling today that BA is associated with. I am guessing it did this, because I consumed the same amount much quicker....... anyways, check my workout log......

[HalleluYAH]

I have recently changed my stance on taking in CHO during a wrokout. I feel it is not needed on a bulk. I will, however, incoporate them in my during wo shake, the next time as I cut........
You lost me there ice. can you elaborate why you feel CHO duringWO works for a cut, but not during a bulk? :confused:

[hotasice2003]

You lost me there ice. can you elaborate why you feel CHO duringWO works for a cut, but not during a bulk? :confused:


While we are bulking, we should deff be consuming larger amounts of CHO than we normally would, and this leads to much hgiher glycogen levels. If we also have a big CHO meal pre-wo, than we are not at a risk of losing muscle during our workout as opposed to when we are working out with very low glycogen levels, as on a cut. While cutting, IMO workouts can be very catabolic if you do not ingest CHO during the workout, as, like I said, glycogen levels will be depleted........ that is coming from my personal stance. I tried the cut diet, and lost alot of BF%, but lost alot of strength and muscle as well. I just feel that CHO are not needed during the workout while bulking. Your pre-wo meal will probably still be getting absorbed during the workout as well...... do you disagree with this stance?

[HalleluYAH]

While we are bulking, we should deff be consuming larger amounts of CHO than we normally would, and this leads to much hgiher glycogen levels. If we also have a big CHO meal pre-wo, than we are not at a risk of losing muscle during our workout as opposed to when we are working out with very low glycogen levels, as on a cut. While cutting, IMO workouts can be very catabolic if you do not ingest CHO during the workout, as, like I said, glycogen levels will be depleted........ that is coming from my personal stance. I tried the cut diet, and lost alot of BF%, but lost alot of strength and muscle as well. I just feel that CHO are not needed during the workout while bulking. Your pre-wo meal will probably still be getting absorbed during the workout as well...... do you disagree with this stance?
I follow your thought process now, but there are even more factors to consider. for instance, when on a bulk and ingesting more CHO within the daily diet, your body will utlimately increase total CHO oxidation both at rest and during exercise. thus more glycogen is released during exercise making the need to CHO supplementation even more pertinent.

taking CHO during the WO will attenuate stored glycogen from being depleted because fuel (glucose/dextrose) is being provided during the WO.

on the flip side, when cutting, and ingesting les and less CHO during the daily diet, the body will being to rely more and more on fatty acid oxidation, and even less on glycogen for fuel. LCDs also have a glycogen sparing effect. thus, the need for duringWO carbs while cutting is less pertinent.

that said, I still recommend having CHO during WO when cutting to increase protein synthesis/attenuate protein turnover. during anaerobic exercise, the body relies more and more on glycogen versus fat. this is the other determining factor of fuel source (in addition to diet). while diet effects the source some, so will the intensity of the exercise.

some say taking vasodilators can increase oxygen deliver and thus allow for increased fatty acid oxidation during weight training (anaerobic exercise).

so either way, taking CHO during WO is recommended. the dosing size and frequency should be adjusted based on diet, and intensity.

hope this helps.

[hotasice2003]

Yes, all that is true, but I still do not believe that CHO levels will be depleted enough to have to consume CHO during. But, this depends on a ton of different variables. I seem to do fine without them.......... to each his own :)

[HalleluYAH]

Yes, all that is true, but I still do not believe that CHO levels will be depleted enough to have to consume CHO during. But, this depends on a ton of different variables. I seem to do fine without them.......... to each his own :)
:)

The main reason I recommend CHO during WO is to attenuate muscle protein breakdown (MPB).

[hotasice2003]

:)

The main reason I recommend CHO during WO is to attenuate muscle protein breakdown (MPB).


Won't a high dose of BCAA's accomplish this, as they are the first amino's to be oxidized for energy?

edit: along with EAA's as well, of course.....

[HalleluYAH]

Won't a high dose of BCAA's accomplish this, as they are the first amino's to be oxidized for energy?

edit: along with EAA's as well, of course.....
yes, EAAs have shown the ability to increase muscle protein synthesis anbd/or attenuate muscle protein breakdown. however, if your dietary EAAs taken pre/during WO are oxidized as metabolic energy, then they would be rendered useless to increase protein synthesis. thus, IMHO, taking CHO + AA taken simultaneously provides the best scenario for net protein synthesis/muscle hypertophy.

[hotasice2003]

...... nothing new to report...... everything is still going great. Endurance/strength continues to raise each and every workout....... good stuff :)

[hotasice2003]

Well, today was the first workout that I was not really pleased with while on 8-BetaAnabol........ I felt very nauseous throughout the workout for some reason. Everything was kept the same, so i have no idea what was wrong. Some sets, the reps still increased, and on one they decreased, but I believe that was due to not resting enough between sets....... I do NOT attribute the nausea to the 8-BetaAnabol......

[hotasice2003]

Well, I have changed my mind! Half way that is. I will add 8-BetaAnabol back in during CARDIO. I added it back in today, and I had the most awesome run so far. The previous run was tough without the 8-Beta, but I thought it was because I had continued to increase intensity. Well, I increased it even more today, and the run was almost a breeze! I don't care what my stance is on wether or not CHO during exercise decreases FA oxidation; if CHO during helps me, and gives me greater endurance/energy, then it is IN! The jury is still out on weight lifting. I haven't noticed a difference with it, as compared to without it. The last workout was not good without, but that may have been just a bad workout, because like I said I was very nauseous for some reason. Anyways, BIG thumbs up for 8-BetaAnabol ( man I hate spelling that lol ) during cardio......

[HalleluYAH]

Well, I have changed my mind! Half way that is. I will add 8-BetaAnabol back in during CARDIO. I added it back in today, and I had the most awesome run so far. The previous run was tough without the 8-Beta, but I thought it was because I had continued to increase intensity. Well, I increased it even more today, and the run was almost a breeze! I don't care what my stance is on wether or not CHO during exercise decreases FA oxidation; if CHO during helps me, and gives me greater endurance/energy, then it is IN! The jury is still out on weight lifting. I have noticed a difference with it, as compared to without it. The last workout was not good without, but that may have been just a bad workout, because like I said I was very nauseous for some reason. Anyways, BIG thumbs up for 8-BetaAnabol ( man I hate spelling that lol ) during cardio......
Great feedback!

[hotasice2003]

Great feedback!


Thanks Hal...... there as indeed a significant increase in energy. It was kind of startling lol......

[hotasice2003]

..... just completed another great cardio session, with increased intensity from last time. My treadmill said I ran the same distance tho lol...... I am getting low on 8-Beta. :(

[hotasice2003]

Yesterday's workout was crazy...... reps went up everywhere....... I am loving this stuff, but sadly, I only have a few more scoops left........

[hotasice2003]

Man, today's run was another amazing one...... I just feel like I can keep going on and on and on. I still have DOMS the next day or 2, but recovery is going is going great; in both my cardio and weight lifting sessions...... I am going to really bump up the intensity on my next run, which may be my last with 8-Beta......

[hotasice2003]

Well fellas this is my called for week off of DC, so I won't be lifting again till Wed. I will prolly take a dose of 8-Beta tomorrow and then on Mon to keep Carn levels up....... will report back then........

[hotasice2003]

Got back into my routine today after a nice week off. I enjoyed the rest, and know it helped me. As stated previously, I took 8-Beta twice during my time off...... took another serving in my during workout shake today, which went very well. Energy/endurance was maintaned easily throughout, and all lifts increased...... check the log. I only have one more scoop, and will be using that tomorrow during my HIIT session. I will write a full review probably on Saturday when I have some free time( school's killing me ).......

[hotasice2003]

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