bodyweight workout

[sweetscience]

I thought perhaps posting this over here would get a more knowledgable response. Im curious what are the benifits of bodyweight excercises? more flexibility, endurance etc.

and what do people think about this workout even if its done every other day
http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/steh7.htm

what kind of build can I achieve with this and how can I incorporate this with weights.

[moodymikey]

I dunno about that workout, I dont know whether I would have the confidence to just leave my weightlifting workout behind and do that.

Over the years I have learned that bodyweight exercises are more for cardio than strength so im not sure I trust it completely. Im tempted to try this workout, but would rather know of other peoples gains from it first before I gave it a go.

However, you gotta remember that Fedor trains using only bodyweight exercises

[ifyour555im666]

24 weeks without a break is a bit much.

[GymClassHero90]

I would add other exercises ontop of the ones already mentioned. But being in control of your bodyweight is a big thing in Martial Arts. You should really be able to do atleast 20 Push ups straight before you even think about Benching, ect..

[hittman]

bodyweight exercises build endurance. like standing bodyweight squats for example, train you so you can stay lower and more balanced during fights. if you've got good endurance in your legs, you can last longer.

[delta9]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mahler57.htm

the strenght you want is functional strenght which is best attained from bodyweight exercises and kettebells/clubells.

doing handstand push-ups and going to advanced levels will give you more strenght than doing military presses. your military presses will actually explode up from doing handstands.

one legged squats (pistols) will give you more leg strenght than hunrdreds of pounds of squats.

truth is you will burn more fat doing bodyweight exercises, get fit faster, and gain greater functional strenght.

[sweetscience]

Im not a fighter but I do plan on taking up martial arts after this semester is over. Looking to get into Jeet Kune Do.

Ive done bwe in the past and felt great after but I wanted to know what there purpose really is.

And Ive always wanted to do 300 pushups 500 bodyweight squats and situps aswell. Just for fun really, ever since I learned abot ken shamrock and the lions den challenge.

Im getting back into lifting and am lifting 3x week but I started to wonder if I should perhaps jump in and do bwe first or just keep lifting and incorporate them in my program.

sort of like this

mon legs workout
tues cardio
weds push workout
thurs cardio
fri pull workout
sat bodyweight excercises
sun rest

[delta9]

the link I posted shows a great bodyweight circuit routine that will give you more than lifting weights or doing cardio if your going into mma. mike mahler the guy that wrote the article even said he got one of the exercises from ken shamrock.

most of them do take skill to learn but even at the basic level they are intense and will give you strenght allowing you to do hundreds of push-ups and bodyweight squats easily.

[King Baer]

Bodyweight exercises are great. Most of what we know in terms of weightlifting is bodybuilding-oriented. There is an entirely different world out there dealing with sports-specific performance. Heavy weight training is just a component of that larger ideology. Bodyweight exercises improve balance and dynamic strength, not just isolated strength. They also improve endurance. I recommend this kind of approach to fitness for anybody who wants to perform better, not just have beach muscles---though I am not saying that traditional weightlifting is bad. It's just not necessarily the only thing out there.

[guest89]

I only do bodyweight stuff right now. My "goal" has never been to "look" like a BBer, I started "working out" to get fit better for extreme sports and for fighting. If I had a weight bench I'd use it for sure, but for right now im satisfied with my strength / endurance from body weight stuff.

Anyways when I got started I looked on this site a bit

http://www.combatfitness.co.uk/

This too

http://rapidshare.de/files/13037168/book-_Ross.Enamait_.The.Underground.Guide.To.Warrior.Fi tness.rar

(Its a PDF book ^ , I like it.)

[sweetscience]

I totally agree with you, I do feel that if your in it for fitness than you should incorporate all forms of excercise. I mean look at jack lalane.

Im learning how to do one arm pushups and one legged squats just sort of when I have time trying to perform them.

But I have a real stupid question that perhaps someone can answer. With regular pushups your lifting 70% of your wieght. So does that mean with with one arm pushups your lifting 70% of your wieght with one arm?

ex. a 200 pound person with regular pushups is lifting 140 pounds. So does that mean he's liftin 140 per arm with 1 arm pushups? and would that then mean he can bench 280?

dont get me wrong Im not hung up on how much I can bench, Im just wondering though?

and in I guess similarly if that guy did one legged squats how much could he squat? 200?

[moodymikey]

I started incorporating this bodyweight workout into my routine today, and it did seem pretty good. Very good for cardio anyway, I'll report back in here as the routine continues for me

[HardGainer82]

Two words for you, my friend: Matt Furey.

[King Baer]

Two words for you, my friend: Matt Furey.

Those in the know say Matt Furey is a joke...

Conditioned? Yes.
Skilled? No.

[sweetscience]

yeah matt furey is a joke

but one of the reasons I brought up that article is that my strenght and endurance has gone down. Before taking time off and letting life take over I could do 50 pushups and 150-200 bodyweight squats in one go. I can only manage 75 squats and 10 pushups if Im lucky now.

But that being said my strength has gone down to in the bench from 170 for 3x10 to 100 for 3x10 so Ive experienced losses on both ends.

thats why I was wondering if something like the routine I posted would be of benifit. I know its primarily geared towards endurance and bwe are more for body awarness, flexibility etc not so much for strength but I was wondering if I could make some gains off it.

I just hate the fact that I let myself get this bad and that I get winded so easily.

[HardGainer82]

Those in the know say Matt Furey is a joke...

Conditioned? Yes.
Skilled? No.
Yeah...the topic was "benefits of bodyweight exercises" I believe, and I took that to be strength/conditioning. I never said he was a good fighter. But thanks for letting me be "in the know." ;)

[delta9]

.thats why I was wondering if something like the routine I posted would be of benifit. I know its primarily geared towards endurance and bwe are more for body awarness, flexibility etc not so much for strength but I was wondering if I could make some gains off it.

I just hate the fact that I let myself get this bad and that I get winded so easily.

not so much for strenght? in one week I noticed my shoulders got bigger from doing handstands, not only me but my brother and a couple of my friends also. my military presses went up so much that I don't even bother with them anymore, hell I don't even bother lifting barbells anymore.

the same goes for the pistols (one legged squats) it gives you leg strenght and balance that will impress wrestlers trying to take you down.