Universal's "Suggestion Box"

[Universal Rep]

Fellas, here is the thread where we ask for your comments, suggestitions and, yes, criticism. We're constantly striving to improve the company and progress cannot be made without feedback from our lifeblood... You. So if you have any kind of input, please feel free to PM me or post it here and we'll do our best to respond. If you prefer more detailed responses, you're welcome to email us at the addresses below. We take pride in our customer service and we strive for nothing less than answering each and every question we get in a timely fashion, whether it's through our emails or through our toll-free customer support number. Thanks.

[warriors]

ummm....improve the mixability of Real Gains in a shaker cup. That is all :)

[no_strain_no_ga]

Hmmm... Maybe you can make a awesome Meal Replacement Bar. I think that is one thing that I believe your company lacks. I know you do have MRP, but if I had a good MRB to take to the gym, that would be great. Also, more flavors for Shock Therapy. :)

[Kledz]

Smaller Uniliver

[1-Testosterone]

Keep the expiry dates in check.
I have with me Universal Ultra Whey and its expiry date is 2009
I had imported this on January 2006. As per law, the expiry date of protein cannot be over 24 months after manufacturing it. So how come the expiry date is over 3 years at 07/2009
On your Creapure creatine products, I have seen the expiry dates of 2010.

I know its hardly a poblem but I was kinda curious about all this. Can you please clear this up for me?

[1-Testosterone]

Get your Ultra Whey agglomerated.
This stuff doesn't mixes at all in water/milk unless you have a blender and 2 minutes to spare.

[Universal Rep]

ummm....improve the mixability of Real Gains in a shaker cup. That is all :)

In our experience, we have absolutely no problems mixing Real Gains in a shaker cup. In fact, before we launched the product, we compared it to other gainers on the market in terms of misability and we were very pleased. We use more expensive ingredients in Real Gains, including instantized proteins, so I'm not sure how much more we could improve it. But we will take a second look. Thanks for the input W.

[Universal Rep]

Hmmm... Maybe you can make a awesome Meal Replacement Bar. I think that is one thing that I believe your company lacks. I know you do have MRP, but if I had a good MRB to take to the gym, that would be great. Also, more flavors for Shock Therapy. :)

Proteon is probably our most recent bar that we've launched and the bar that gets the best reviews in terms of taste:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/pro.html

[Universal Rep]

Smaller Uniliver

Will forward this on to production.

[Universal Rep]

Keep the expiry dates in check.
I have with me Universal Ultra Whey and its expiry date is 2009
I had imported this on January 2006. As per law, the expiry date of protein cannot be over 24 months after manufacturing it. So how come the expiry date is over 3 years at 07/2009
On your Creapure creatine products, I have seen the expiry dates of 2010.

I know its hardly a poblem but I was kinda curious about all this. Can you please clear this up for me?

Honestly, I don't know much about this, but will forward it on.

[Sodom]

Sort out the prices in the UK!! They're crazy..

I ship mine in from bb.com but am running the risk of getting stung by customs, which is fair enough, but holds my order up for ages..

[Universal Rep]

Keep the expiry dates in check.
I have with me Universal Ultra Whey and its expiry date is 2009
I had imported this on January 2006. As per law, the expiry date of protein cannot be over 24 months after manufacturing it. So how come the expiry date is over 3 years at 07/2009
On your Creapure creatine products, I have seen the expiry dates of 2010.

I know its hardly a poblem but I was kinda curious about all this. Can you please clear this up for me?

I'm assuming you're a reseller 1-T. Check your PMs bro.

[Universal Rep]

Sort out the prices in the UK!! They're crazy..

I ship mine in from bb.com but am running the risk of getting stung by customs, which is fair enough, but holds my order up for ages..

Hey bro, remember that there are various taxes, tariffs, duties, etc. to import products. That's going to increase the costs. Plus, the distributor's costs. Long story short, feel free to contact our distributors in the U.K. for any additional questions. You can reach them at either www.animalpak.co.uk or www.tropicanahealthandfitness.com. Hope this helps.

[steve39]

ummm....improve the mixability of Real Gains in a shaker cup. That is all :)

Yeah I tried my real gains in a shaker cup and I was chokin down clumps. Nasty. But it doesn't matter, just put it in the blender and it mixes up very well and tastes very well. Amazing product, Universal.

Also, I love the animal pak website. Hardcore articles there and it represents how BB should be. Keep it real.

My suggestion is for the BB's on that site to post diets up that show what meals they eat, what time, and show like calories/protein/carbs/etc. It would be interesting to see what they eat on bulking or cutting diets. I would really want to follow one of their diets. Just a suggestion, peace.

[Universal Rep]

Yeah I tried my real gains in a shaker cup and I was chokin down clumps. Nasty. But it doesn't matter, just put it in the blender and it mixes up very well and tastes very well. Amazing product, Universal.

Also, I love the animal pak website. Hardcore articles there and it represents how BB should be. Keep it real.

My suggestion is for the BB's on that site to post diets up that show what meals they eat, what time, and show like calories/protein/carbs/etc. It would be interesting to see what they eat on bulking or cutting diets. I would really want to follow one of their diets. Just a suggestion, peace.

Funny, but after warriors posted his critique, we went back to look at Real Gains in a shaker cup, and we had no problems. Looks like we'll have to look across all three flavors...

As for Animalpak.com, what I think is cool is that all the writing is done by the bodybuilders and powerlifters themselves. Who better to get info from? Your suggestion for posting real diets has been duly noted. But you gotta remember--what works for them may not work for you. Their diets are based on years of trial and error, and finding out what works for them. Whenever you see a training routine or diet, you gotta keep that in mind. Thanks for the input Steve. Let us know how else we can help. Later.

[BODYBUILDER889]

I volunteer an an official universal tester. I will post a log and with the money i save from free supplements i will buy a camera and post pictures. PM me for more info;)

[steve39]

Funny, but after warriors posted his critique, we went back to look at Real Gains in a shaker cup, and we had no problems. Looks like we'll have to look across all three flavors...

As for Animalpak.com, what I think is cool is that all the writing is done by the bodybuilders and powerlifters themselves. Who better to get info from? Your suggestion for posting real diets has been duly noted. But you gotta remember--what works for them may not work for you. Their diets are based on years of trial and error, and finding out what works for them. Whenever you see a training routine or diet, you gotta keep that in mind. Thanks for the input Steve. Let us know how else we can help. Later.

Yeah I know that their diets may not work. I just want to see what kind of foods they are taking at what times, so I could maybe improve my own diet using theirs. I've read a few articles when they post a few foods they eat, but it would be really interesting to see their whole diets. It would be especially interesting to see their bulking diets, so I could take note of cals/protein, etc. and how they're getting it. Of all the guys on there I'd def like to see Wrath's diet, since I haven't seen him writing many aritcles aside from his "journey" things, which are badass. Thanks for taking note of my suggestion. Keep up the great work, I'll be buying your products for a long, long time.

[Universal Rep]

Yeah I know that their diets may not work. I just want to see what kind of foods they are taking at what times, so I could maybe improve my own diet using theirs. I've read a few articles when they post a few foods they eat, but it would be really interesting to see their whole diets. It would be especially interesting to see their bulking diets, so I could take note of cals/protein, etc. and how they're getting it. Of all the guys on there I'd def like to see Wrath's diet, since I haven't seen him writing many aritcles aside from his "journey" things, which are badass. Thanks for taking note of my suggestion. Keep up the great work, I'll be buying your products for a long, long time.

Wrath's diet was posted weeks ago. But it only went out to registered users of the Journey. For your edification though, here it is again:

http://animalpak.com/html/article_details.cfm?ID=289&section=

I've seen Wrath eat in person. It's a sight to behold. Anyway, in case you're interested, here's how to register to get updates and opportunities to win free Animal promos:

http://animalpak.com/html/extras.cfm

[steve39]

Sweet thanks for the links man. It says his supplement plan will be posted next week. And if that was published a week ago, that means it should be out by now? Or no?

[Universal Rep]

Sweet thanks for the links man. It says his supplement plan will be posted next week. And if that was published a week ago, that means it should be out by now? Or no?

That's also out... You gotta get with the program Steve. Register and you'll be sure to get updates, eh? Anyway, I'll post up that link shortly.

[steve39]

Haha sorry man, I never followed the journey thing, so I guess I really am not with the program :)

*edit* i found the links myself , and am now following his journey. good **** :)

[G Diesel]

Haha sorry man, I never followed the journey thing, so I guess I really am not with the program :)

*edit* i found the links myself , and am now following his journey. good **** :)

You should try training with him. My boy Wrath.. He's a true warrior.

[Da Main Man]

improve relations with Non-US contries in terms of pricing and availability of your product.

[johnnystl34]

I volunteer an an official universal tester. I will post a log and with the money i save from free supplements i will buy a camera and post pictures. PM me for more info;)


Yeah dude, me too!!! I'm all about helping to progress a product! What's this I hear about a new and improved MStak???? I'm loving the Stak2 right now, as well as Nitro G and the Shock Therapy and Storm Stack. I went from 155 back in March to 190 now. PM me for pics and info. Train hard and God bless!

[Universal Rep]

improve relations with Non-US contries in terms of pricing and availability of your product.

Do you mean in terms of being able to find our products? Our Director of Sales has indicated that the Australian government is one of the strictest in allowing products produced outside of your country. So that's definitely one of the issues. Currently, only 10 products have been officially approved. PM if you want more info. As for pricing, if you're comparing American websites versus prices in your home country, there are going to be discrepancies due to costs associated with importation (e.g., taxes, duties, etc.). Right now, we're in over 70 countries. If you have any other questions about where to find product in Australia, you can PM me or contact us at info@universalnutrition.com. Hope this helps.

[TinyMan]

Universal,

The number one thing I would like to see in a reformulation is the removal of shark cartilage from Animal Pak. This ingredient was a case of marketing rushing far ahead of science. The original argument was that sharks cannot get cancer, and the cartilage was 'discovered' to be the cause. Supplementing the cartilage was supposed to break down and release the miracle ingredient to break down cancer, and stop blood vessel formation. In 1983, MIT did actually find a protein present in cartilage that prevents blood vessel formation. There are small bits of evidence that this may be the case, however out of the four published studies done, the results are conflicting, and not very positive at that.

One of the reasons this is turns my stomach is the practice known as 'finning.' A shark is caught, the fins are cut off in the spot, and it is re-released into the wild. Bear in mind that shark is now bleeding, cannot swim, and is surrounded by predators (mostly other sharks, which are cannibalistic). To get perspective, imagine having your limbs sawed off with a hacksaw, and being tossed in an alligator-infested river.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancerinfo/pdq/cam/cartilage
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_3_1x_Shark_Cartilage_Supplements_Have_No_Effec t.asp
http://www.jhu.edu/~jhumag/0600web/shark.html

The third link is a fairly interesting read - it does not dismiss cartilage supplements as flat out bogus, however points out the problems with well-structured logic (all too rare these days). Thanks for your time in reading this, and I only hope that Universal Nutrition will take a second look at the science behind what they use.

[G Diesel]

Universal,

The number one thing I would like to see in a reformulation is the removal of shark cartilage from Animal Pak. This ingredient was a case of marketing rushing far ahead of science. The original argument was that sharks cannot get cancer, and the cartilage was 'discovered' to be the cause. Supplementing the cartilage was supposed to break down and release the miracle ingredient to break down cancer, and stop blood vessel formation. In 1983, MIT did actually find a protein present in cartilage that prevents blood vessel formation. There are small bits of evidence that this may be the case, however out of the four published studies done, the results are conflicting, and not very positive at that.

One of the reasons this is turns my stomach is the practice known as 'finning.' A shark is caught, the fins are cut off in the spot, and it is re-released into the wild. Bear in mind that shark is now bleeding, cannot swim, and is surrounded by predators (mostly other sharks, which are cannibalistic). To get perspective, imagine having your limbs sawed off with a hacksaw, and being tossed in an alligator-infested river.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancerinfo/pdq/cam/cartilage
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_3_1x_Shark_Cartilage_Supplements_Have_No_Effec t.asp
http://www.jhu.edu/~jhumag/0600web/shark.html

The third link is a fairly interesting read - it does not dismiss cartilage supplements as flat out bogus, however points out the problems with well-structured logic (all too rare these days). Thanks for your time in reading this, and I only hope that Universal Nutrition will take a second look at the science behind what they use.

TinyMan, I hear ya bro. But don't make the mistake of assuming shark cartilage is in Animal Pak because of any anti-cancer benefits because it's not. I agree the hype around shark cartilage and cancer is just that--hype. But just because we use it doesn't mean it's there for that reason.

As for finning, I can't speak on that as honestly, I don't know enough about it. That kind of stuff makes me ill, as I love animals. But a little enlightenment and learning about new topics is what makes the world go 'round. I'll check it out bro. Thanks. Peace, G

[steve39]

You should try training with him. My boy Wrath.. He's a true warrior.

Haha I'd kill to train with that guy. What a beast.

[G Diesel]

Haha I'd kill to train with that guy. What a beast.

Check here bro: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=801690&highlight=wrath

And here for some pics (post #'s 847-849): http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=695434&page=29

Peace, G

[Universal Rep]

Smaller Uniliver

Request has been put in and good news. We've been told that production/manufacturing will "slim" down the size of the Uni-Liver tabs. Don't have an exact timetable or just how much smaller yet... Will post updates.

[Kledz]

Request has been put in and good news. We've been told that production/manufacturing will "slim" down the size of the Uni-Liver tabs. Don't have an exact timetable or just how much smaller yet... Will post updates.

Thats awesome, glad to hear it! :D

[Universal Rep]

Thats awesome, glad to hear it! :D

Start with small steps, and after a while, you gotta lot of miles behind you.

[TinyMan]

TinyMan, I hear ya bro. But don't make the mistake of assuming shark cartilage is in Animal Pak because of any anti-cancer benefits because it's not. I agree the hype around shark cartilage and cancer is just that--hype. But just because we use it doesn't mean it's there for that reason.

As for finning, I can't speak on that as honestly, I don't know enough about it. That kind of stuff makes me ill, as I love animals. But a little enlightenment and learning about new topics is what makes the world go 'round. I'll check it out bro. Thanks. Peace, G

Thanks for the response G Diesel. It still remains unaware in my mind as to the usage. As far as I know, the two main reasons for supplementing shark cartilage are to stop the formation of blood vessels (protein structure identified by MIT), and the cancer hypothesis (which we've already discussed).

Finning is unfortunately very hard to track, as many shark fishing boats are unmonitored, however very conservative estimates I've seen are in the tens of millions yearly, while the upper end being as much as 100 million sharks per year - a rate far beyond the successful reproduction rate (that is, the surviving population from birth to adulthood). Some of the pictures of finning can be graphic, be warned. As you say, it is really something that can make you ill, just by thinking of it. Seeing the pictures and realizing what comes next in the chain of events is much worse.

Thanks for your time, both of you.

[steve39]

I watched the Animal Arms DVD I bought the other day and it is crazy. It's a really great training dvd. I hope you guys can get some more. I'd love to see back, legs, and chest training :)

[Universal Rep]

I watched the Animal Arms DVD I bought the other day and it is crazy. It's a really great training dvd. I hope you guys can get some more. I'd love to see back, legs, and chest training :)

Thanks Steve. Chest is slated for the Fall 2006 and Shoulders for some time in the Winter 2007. Be patient.

[steve39]

Nice dude. Can't wait for them to come out. Will they be by Wrath or a different guy?

Also, I have one more and final suggestion. But this is the suggestion that's most important to me. I really wanna order clothes at animalpak.com. I really like the black tank, the black hoodie, and a few of the shirts. But it seems like everything that I want to buy has the smallest size of Large :( You guys can't make atleast a medium? I'm sure there are other smaller guys like me that would like some smaller sizes like Medium lol. Really dissapointed that I couldn't order any clothes...

[Universal Rep]

Nice dude. Can't wait for them to come out. Will they be by Wrath or a different guy?

Also, I have one more and final suggestion. But this is the suggestion that's most important to me. I really wanna order clothes at animalpak.com. I really like the black tank, the black hoodie, and a few of the shirts. But it seems like everything that I want to buy has the smallest size of Large :( You guys can't make atleast a medium? I'm sure there are other smaller guys like me that would like some smaller sizes like Medium lol. Really dissapointed that I couldn't order any clothes...

It'll be Wrath...

All the t-shirts should be available in medium. The tanks run on the smaller side, but stretch quite a bit. So even an L tank will fit most smaller guys. Hope this helps bro.

[sknot1454]

I like Animal's line of clothing, but it would be cool to see some of the motivational speeches in your posters put onto the shirts instead of "STFU and train" "go big or go home" etc etc. Not that those are bad, but it would be cool to get a better variety. Maybe include some art/photography on the shirts???


Cant wait for the new DVDs

[Universal Rep]

I like Animal's line of clothing, but it would be cool to see some of the motivational speeches in your posters put onto the shirts instead of "STFU and train" "go big or go home" etc etc. Not that those are bad, but it would be cool to get a better variety. Maybe include some art/photography on the shirts???


Cant wait for the new DVDs

We get this request all the time. Problem is, some of the words would be pretty small and we're afraid that after a couple of washing, they may wash out.

[Double Eclipse]

I would ask that Universal and Animal invent a proprietary blend to help my wrist heal super fast so I can rid myself of this silly cast and hit the racks again. On a serious note, how about a non trucker Animal hat, say fitted or with the adjustable back, with the large logo on the front and a smaller on on the back. You gotta wear the hat backwards on back and arm days ya know.
And as wifey looks over my shoulder, she asks " Why isn't there a She Animal" area"? This after she had to pick me up from the gym the other night after breaking my wrist and saw a couple of the "gals" over at the squat rack.
Carry On !!

[sknot1454]

We get this request all the time. Problem is, some of the words would be pretty small and we're afraid that after a couple of washing, they may wash out.

True

quality>quantity

I love the looks I get when I wear my "Shut the **** up and train shirt" or especially my "squat till you puke" shirts.

[steve39]

It'll be Wrath...

All the t-shirts should be available in medium. The tanks run on the smaller side, but stretch quite a bit. So even an L tank will fit most smaller guys. Hope this helps bro.

Eh, I'd rather not spend the money on something that isn't going to fit me....unless those tanks shrink in the wash...alot...

[Universal Rep]

Eh, I'd rather not spend the money on something that isn't going to fit me....unless those tanks shrink in the wash...alot...

100% cotton, so it'll shrink some. We think the large will fit a guy who wears a medium t, but hey, it's your call. You're welcome to order it, and if you don't like the fit, we'll refund ya. Later.

[Universal Rep]

I would ask that Universal and Animal invent a proprietary blend to help my wrist heal super fast so I can rid myself of this silly cast and hit the racks again. On a serious note, how about a non trucker Animal hat, say fitted or with the adjustable back, with the large logo on the front and a smaller on on the back. You gotta wear the hat backwards on back and arm days ya know.
And as wifey looks over my shoulder, she asks " Why isn't there a She Animal" area"? This after she had to pick me up from the gym the other night after breaking my wrist and saw a couple of the "gals" over at the squat rack.
Carry On !!

We're gonna look into this right now. If all goes, we should have some new caps in a couple months. Later.

[Itln Stln]

I would like to see LAVA come in a bigger serving container with more than just 10 serving's. If possible keep the price reasonable as well when stepping up the serving's. I love this stuff. Thanx.

[TheDukeUSMC]

I just got the Pak. 22 paks in one can. Is there any larger sizes. If you're taking one pak per day that's only 22 days, 2 paks is 11 days. Perhaps something for a few bucks more a person could get like....60 in pak. So even if you take 2 per day that's 30 days.....


I'm going to try my newly bought Animal Pak soon.....!

[G Diesel]

I just got the Pak. 22 paks in one can. Is there any larger sizes. If you're taking one pak per day that's only 22 days, 2 paks is 11 days. Perhaps something for a few bucks more a person could get like....60 in pak. So even if you take 2 per day that's 30 days.....


I'm going to try my newly bought Animal Pak soon.....!

Hey bro, I think you've got the 44 pack can--22 would be the number of servings if you took 2 packs a day, which most guys don't. So the 44s will last 44 days. Peace.

[TheDukeUSMC]

*looks at can again*

You're right. I got the 44 pak can. Still if you're a competor and you follow the side notes about taking 2 that's still 22 days. *Laughs* I think I need new glasses to go along with my new multi's.

I'm on day 2 of the Pak...taking it right now before karate. I'll let everyone know how it works. I can say right now the Pak is now the only multi this Marine will be taking

[Universal Rep]

*looks at can again*

You're right. I got the 44 pak can. Still if you're a competor and you follow the side notes about taking 2 that's still 22 days. *Laughs* I think I need new glasses to go along with my new multi's.

I'm on day 2 of the Pak...taking it right now before karate. I'll let everyone know how it works. I can say right now the Pak is now the only multi this Marine will be taking

Cool.

[steve39]

This isn't a suggestion but I was wondering if you guys got the lists of songs used in the training dvd. They're kickass. I especially like the one that's in the trailer too (it's also in the movie) You guys have em?

--Peace

[Tarkana]

i've never had a problem with the size of uniliver, but i remember reading somewhere that they don't dissolve well, and it showed pictures of different liver tabs over the course of 2 hrs is an hcl solution, and uniliver didn't dissolve at all. so i hope they'll still work well cause i got a lot of em, but will they make their solubility better?

[G Diesel]

i've never had a problem with the size of uniliver, but i remember reading somewhere that they don't dissolve well, and it showed pictures of different liver tabs over the course of 2 hrs is an hcl solution, and uniliver didn't dissolve at all. so i hope they'll still work well cause i got a lot of em, but will they make their solubility better?

Tark, I 've taken jugs of Uni-Liver over the years with no breakdown or digestion issues. Taken along with meals, they should be processed efficiently and provide you with extra, diverse aminos and b vitamins fortifying your daily nutrition. Peace, G

[steve39]

Bump for finding out what songs you guys played on the Animal Arms DVD...

[the big al]

get gnc to sell uni liver

[Universal Rep]

Bump for finding out what songs you guys played on the Animal Arms DVD...

Let's just say it's not something you could readily get your hands on. That's all I can say steve, sorry bro.

[Universal Rep]

get gnc to sell uni liver

We got plenty in GNC, but Uni-Liver is not one of the products carried in corporate. Still, franchise GNCs may carry it. Awesome product.

[sobelik]

We got plenty in GNC, but Uni-Liver is not one of the products carried in corporate. Still, franchise GNCs may carry it. Awesome product.
haha my old manager(gnc) would keep all the universal stuff in the back because it didnt have a PM on it...... Its sad I know....

[Jbutts169]

I must say, I would like to see a more cost efficient size bottle of Animal Max. That was the first protein I ever used, and honestly, I loved it. I know its probably the least talked about Animal Product, but its got an amazing nutritional profile. Tasted great too. Something like a 5 lb tub, because right now I am living off of ON 100% Whey, as that is all I can afford being in college right now, and the taste is starting to get real tiring. And, I love Nitro G for bulking, but maybe making that in a larger size would be awesome too. I could deal with paying 40 bucks for like 32 packets of Nitro G, instead of $20 for 16 servings.


Also, I know G may have hinted about this, but a re-formulation of M-Stak would be awesome too.

But on a side note, Universal is the ****. I will always use the Pak, Nitro, and Pump, because they are really helping me step up my game in the gym. AnimalPak.com always gives me the motivation I need. Thanks

[steve39]

Let's just say it's not something you could readily get your hands on. That's all I can say steve, sorry bro.

:( Looks like I'll have to keep working out and playing the dvd at the same time.

[deserusan]

How about a workout weekend with Wraath and G Diesel. Have some cats from the forum apply who know how to write and are into the whole Animal mantra or could become converts. That would be some good ****. Let's see what the Pak is all about!

[Sodom]

Hey bro, remember that there are various taxes, tariffs, duties, etc. to import products. That's going to increase the costs. Plus, the distributor's costs. Long story short, feel free to contact our distributors in the U.K. for any additional questions. You can reach them at either www.animalpak.co.uk or www.tropicanahealthandfitness.com. Hope this helps.

Yeah man I don't have a problem with the taxes/import duties at all - I'm not trying to dodge them..

One more thing - do you guys have any say in the prices charged by your distributors in other countries?

[Universal Rep]

Yeah man I don't have a problem with the taxes/import duties at all - I'm not trying to dodge them..

One more thing - do you guys have any say in the prices charged by your distributors in other countries?

I understand bro... Check your PMs.

[Double Eclipse]

I just noticed I was almost out of Nitro G, AGAIN....so, would there be a chance for more paks in a can or maybe a 5 lb tub like the good ole protein. Also, other than marketing, there must be a reason for 16 paks per can.

Carry On !!.

[Jbutts169]

I just noticed I was almost out of Nitro G, AGAIN....so, would there be a chance for more paks in a can or maybe a 5 lb tub like the good ole protein. Also, other than marketing, there must be a reason for 16 paks per can.

Carry On !!.

Ditto! along with my other post on pg 2 of this thread!

[Double Eclipse]

Spot on !!!! I read right over that the first time and didn't even notice.BTW, I am a new fan of the Animal Max and agree with adding some quantity size and pricing.I ran thru it pretty quick, but for the price of some other proteins, it's hard to keep the locker full of the Max.

[m1canes29]

the spoon handle in storm is wayyyy too long i ahve to dig it in to fit it in when i close it.

[mike2858]

make more larger posters--especially the newer ones. and if possiible, make the "enlarged image' of the poster larger so one can see what words are written in small print on the side.

[Universal Rep]

I just noticed I was almost out of Nitro G, AGAIN....so, would there be a chance for more paks in a can or maybe a 5 lb tub like the good ole protein. Also, other than marketing, there must be a reason for 16 paks per can.

Carry On !!.

There's a marketing reason for 16 in can?!? If ya know it, shed some light bro!

[Universal Rep]

Spot on !!!! I read right over that the first time and didn't even notice.BTW, I am a new fan of the Animal Max and agree with adding some quantity size and pricing.I ran thru it pretty quick, but for the price of some other proteins, it's hard to keep the locker full of the Max.

Yo DE, G tells me to shoot him a PM. He says he got something for ya.

[Universal Rep]

the spoon handle in storm is wayyyy too long i ahve to dig it in to fit it in when i close it.

A longer scoop handle will help when you get deeper in the product, so it's a tradeoff.

[Universal Rep]

make more larger posters--especially the newer ones. and if possiible, make the "enlarged image' of the poster larger so one can see what words are written in small print on the side.

We're currently printing each Journey ad into a 16" x 22" glossy poster printed on heavy stock. We're up to ad #8, "55.30.29". These are $2.95 each and available in The Shop at Animalpak.com. Are you looking for something bigger than that? If so, we probably won't be doing that anytine in the near future.

[mike2858]

yeh thats what i was lookin for, would it be possible to purchase the small poster and then go to a place to have it blown up?

[Universal Rep]

yeh thats what i was lookin for, would it be possible to purchase the small poster and then go to a place to have it blown up?

I can definitively answer yes on the first and I don't know on the second...

[johnnystl34]

the spoon handle in storm is wayyyy too long i ahve to dig it in to fit it in when i close it.


What??????

[dirtydean12]

I just noticed I was almost out of Nitro G, AGAIN....so, would there be a chance for more paks in a can or maybe a 5 lb tub like the good ole protein. Also, other than marketing, there must be a reason for 16 paks per can.

Carry On !!.
that would be a really good idea actually! make the nitro into more of a jug/scoop thing in like a 2 lb size instead of packets....?

[Sodom]

I understand bro... Check your PMs.

Thanks man - appreciate it.. :)

[RobW]

Yeah man I don't have a problem with the taxes/import duties at all - I'm not trying to dodge them..

One more thing - do you guys have any say in the prices charged by your distributors in other countries?

Sodom,

I had a quick look on the UK site and they did not look too bad...As the Universal Rep said the UK distributor has to pay shipping, import duty (12% on tablets) and VAT (17.5%)...So actually if you bought Animal Pak 15 count from BB.com, and PAID the shipping, duty and VAT you would be at around 15.76GBP, which is more than they cost to purchase in the UK as the price includes shipping....

[Universal Rep]

that would be a really good idea actually! make the nitro into more of a jug/scoop thing in like a 2 lb size instead of packets....?

DD, if you're looking for straight EAA powder, take a look at EAA Stack. From a value point of view, it's hard to beat. EAAs without the carbs.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/eaa.html

[dirtydean12]

DD, if you're looking for straight EAA powder, take a look at EAA Stack. From a value point of view, it's hard to beat. EAAs without the carbs.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/eaa.html
ahh thats right, i forgot you guys already made that!! i guess thats what happens when you deal with a great company....haha

[Double Eclipse]

There's a marketing reason for 16 in can?!? If ya know it, shed some light bro!

Well....ummm...uhhhh....my wrist hurts and I'll need to get back to you...yeah...that's it....I'll get back to you on that one.:)

[Universal Rep]

Well....ummm...uhhhh....my wrist hurts and I'll need to get back to you...yeah...that's it....I'll get back to you on that one.:)

LOL. Yeah, when you do, maybe you can tell us why the Animal Pak has 44 packs? What's the significance of 44s? Weird...

[Double Eclipse]

I've got my sister in law on it. SHe is one of those numerology gurus that tell the grocery stores and such why a price of 4.87 will sell more than 3.99.
News at 11.
Carry On !!

[Universal Rep]

I've got my sister in law on it. SHe is one of those numerology gurus that tell the grocery stores and such why a price of 4.87 will sell more than 3.99.
News at 11.
Carry On !!

When you have a chance, let her know I need my numbers read. Later.

[Urchin]

I have a suggestion that I think would be great (and easy to implement!). You should offer your animal "core" supplements (Flex, Pump, and Nitro... correct??) in a set (obviously at a cheaper price than buying separatly). Kinda like BSN does with their Cellmass/Nitrix/No-Xplode... Would make things much easier and more convienient! Thanks.

[Itln Stln]

I have a suggestion that I think would be great (and easy to implement!). You should offer your animal "core" supplements (Flex, Pump, and Nitro... correct??) in a set (obviously at a cheaper price than buying separatly). Kinda like BSN does with their Cellmass/Nitrix/No-Xplode... Would make things much easier and more convienient! Thanks.

I do like that idea. Buy a combo or tri-pack and save.

[sherrif1391]

rite now im using the shock therapy storm combo and i love the grape flavor of storm but the wild punch kicker is way to bittersweet for me....dont get me wrong though theyre are both great products. u just mite wnt to do sumthin about the taste. but hey, if it gives results who cares about the taste.

[Universal Rep]

rite now im using the shock therapy storm combo and i love the grape flavor of storm but the wild punch kicker is way to bittersweet for me....dont get me wrong though theyre are both great products. u just mite wnt to do sumthin about the taste. but hey, if it gives results who cares about the taste.

Taste is subjective. Some guys we know love Wild Punch Kicker. Me, I'm a grape man, like yourself.

[Brute Force]

You guys should make a casein based product for a nightime shake. I currently use milk & egg mixed with whey (milk & egg tastes pretty bad on its own, but tastes good with whey). I think the perfect product would be a blend of micellar casein, flax and inulin (for fiber). It would pretty much be real gains but minus the whey and maltodextrin. You can throw in some glutamine and BCAAs, but it wouldn't be necessary.

Take this and sweet dreams.

[Universal Rep]

You guys should make a casein based product for a nightime shake. I currently use milk & egg mixed with whey (milk & egg tastes pretty bad on its own, but tastes good with whey). I think the perfect product would be a blend of micellar casein, flax and inulin (for fiber). It would pretty much be real gains but minus the whey and maltodextrin. You can throw in some glutamine and BCAAs, but it wouldn't be necessary.

Take this and sweet dreams.

Interesting idea Brute... You think there's enough demand for this? You aside that is... I'm guessing you couldn't sustain sales for us all by your lonesome... Could you? Haha.

[mike2858]

Interesting idea Brute... You think there's enough demand for this? You aside that is... I'm guessing you couldn't sustain sales for us all by your lonesome... Could you? Haha.

i think there is a large market segment for such a product. many people complain about the high cals in Muscle Milk, the mystery blend of Matrix 5.0,etc. Many people currently like Ultra Peptide but i have heard people complainig about the expense. I believe Designer Nutrition (supps) is releasing a nighttime protein very soon. i think if u can get a good night time blend ull have plenty of potential customers- myself included (especially if u can get the fiber in it to help slow down digestion even more)

[Brute Force]

Interesting idea Brute... You think there's enough demand for this? You aside that is... I'm guessing you couldn't sustain sales for us all by your lonesome... Could you? Haha.

Possibly. I do eat a lot.

I think with the recent success of products like muscle milk, there seems to be a fair amount of demand for such a product. Although, I'm sure Universal would make a better product.

[Brute Force]

Just don't throw in a lot of omega 6's like muscle milk does. Complete waste. The typical human diet is too high in omega 6's as it is. Stick with the omega 3's from flax. Also don't put any inferior proteins or whey in either for that matter. Stick to micellar casein.

An interesting idea would be to use milled flax seed. That way you get your fiber and omega 3's with one ingredient. Or you could just use flax oil and inulin.

A lot of people use real gains before bed. I do it sometimes myself, but would prefer taking in less simple carbs.

[Universal Rep]

The typical human diet is too high in omega 6's as it is. Stick with the omega 3's from flax.

The man knows about the ratios of 3's to 6's... I'm impressed B.

[bigybigy]

This stuff tastes great! Going to get more in the future.

[whatnow5]

Interesting idea Brute... You think there's enough demand for this? You aside that is... I'm guessing you couldn't sustain sales for us all by your lonesome... Could you? Haha.

I do need a casein protein, I would love to buy one from universal. Make one under the animal line and call it animal sleep or something, lol.

[mike2858]

Hibernation!

[whatnow5]

Hibernation!

nice!

[Universal Rep]

I do need a casein protein, I would love to buy one from universal. Make one under the animal line and call it animal sleep or something, lol.

You looking for a straight casein powder? Micellar or something else, like calcium caseinate?

[mike2858]

i dont know what he wants specifically....but through my researching of the subject it seems to be better to have a blend of casein and other proteins (whey and egg i guess) the reason is due to the different absorption rates so you get the whey "immediately' and the casein slowly over night. Another plus is that i think casein is a very expensive protein and with the addition of the other 1's it may make the product cheaper to make, and more effective. Im assuming youll have to make a proprietary blend (which many people dont like) but if you keep the casein as the #1 ingredient on the list it may keep many people from opening their mouths saying that it wont work.

hope this helps.

[Universal Rep]

i dont know what he wants specifically....but through my researching of the subject it seems to be better to have a blend of casein and other proteins (whey and egg i guess) the reason is due to the different absorption rates so you get the whey "immediately' and the casein slowly over night. Another plus is that i think casein is a very expensive protein and with the addition of the other 1's it may make the product cheaper to make, and more effective. Im assuming youll have to make a proprietary blend (which many people dont like) but if you keep the casein as the #1 ingredient on the list it may keep many people from opening their mouths saying that it wont work.

hope this helps.

Interesting points you raise bro...

[whatnow5]

You looking for a straight casein powder? Micellar or something else, like calcium caseinate?
I'm not sure yet, I'm probably going to get micellar, but I have to wait till I can afford it. I also haven't really found one that I like, I just found brute's idea about micellar, and flax convenient.

oh yeah, I also bought my second can of the pak today, and the iron ticket was on it.

[TheDukeUSMC]

44 paks in a can at once a day is 44 days. What about a "monster" size that is somewhere like 60 or 90 paks in a can?

[mike2858]

u know they arent going to go from 44 to 60 or 90....maybe ilke a 64 or 87 lol

[Universal Rep]

u know they arent going to go from 44 to 60 or 90....maybe ilke a 64 or 87 lol

Haha, ain't that the truth bro? I was thinking 75 myself...

[dillin00]

Would I be able to stack Animal Pump, Animal Stack 2 and Animal M Stack all at the same time for instance on lifting days take Animal Stack 2 1 hour before I lift take M Stack 45 mins. before I lift and then take Animal Pump 30 mins. before I lift ???? Since there all by Universal will that make them work better because there together or is that unhealthy??? or is there any other way you guys would do it please let me know thanks

[G Diesel]

Would I be able to stack Animal Pump, Animal Stack 2 and Animal M Stack all at the same time for instance on lifting days take Animal Stack 2 1 hour before I lift take M Stack 45 mins. before I lift and then take Animal Pump 30 mins. before I lift ???? Since there all by Universal will that make them work better because there together or is that unhealthy??? or is there any other way you guys would do it please let me know thanks

It wouldn't be unhealthy bro, but it will only be as productive as your training and whole food diet allows. Supps are only the icing on the cake. If I were to stack all of those together, I would take M-Stak 2-3 hrs pre, Stak2 about an hour before and Pump within 15-30 minutes before you train. Peace, G

[Paulie]

First off, I'd definitely be interested in a night-time protein. Was going to take MM, but the fat content was bit high for my liking.

Secondly, what about matching Animal pump's servings with animal Pak. I.e, make both cans hold 44 servings. Would make it much easier to shop. There's plenty of space in the pump can to accomadate this.

Finally, I was thinking of emailing you fellas asking for a wallpaper of the strongman on the Animal Cans. If you're confused, I'm refering to the man who is the 'I' in the bold UNIVERSAL logo on the animal cans. I think the bright sillouette of the bodybuilder against a black background would look awesome as my wallpaper. It's prettymuch free advertising :). Could put it out in different colours if you liked.

Toodles

-Paulie

[Universal Rep]

First off, I'd definitely be interested in a night-time protein. Was going to take MM, but the fat content was bit high for my liking.

Secondly, what about matching Animal pump's servings with animal Pak. I.e, make both cans hold 44 servings. Would make it much easier to shop. There's plenty of space in the pump can to accomadate this.

Finally, I was thinking of emailing you fellas asking for a wallpaper of the strongman on the Animal Cans. If you're confused, I'm refering to the man who is the 'I' in the bold UNIVERSAL logo on the animal cans. I think the bright sillouette of the bodybuilder against a black background would look awesome as my wallpaper. It's prettymuch free advertising :). Could put it out in different colours if you liked.

Toodles

-Paulie

Animal Flex is the only other "pack" product in the Animal line that has 44 packs. It was designed to work with Pak as your complete joint supplement. Animal Pump would be cool as 44s, but the price point is increased, as you might have guessed. As for the wallpaper request, try emailing info@animalpak.com. Later bro.

[ryne]

I would also love to get a universal casein-based protein. as of right now, everything i use is universal, except time-release protein.

P.s. what do you guys (G and universal rep) use at night?

[1-Testosterone]

Iso Whey in 5 lbs jugs.

[G Diesel]

I would also love to get a universal casein-based protein. as of right now, everything i use is universal, except time-release protein.

P.s. what do you guys (G and universal rep) use at night?

Currently I'm using 3 scoops of Specialized Protein for Lean Mass (Chocolate) http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/lean.html mixed in milk. Peace, G

[mike2858]

which flavor do you suggest?

[G Diesel]

which flavor do you suggest?

Chocolate in Specialized or Real Gains. Peace, G

[Dallas68]

NO WAY! my real gains mixes 100% i was VERY suprised since its a "gainer" but its always a quick clean wash. no clumps no sticky protein at bottom of the protein shaker.

[antish]

i'd like to see a discounted combo pack of storm+shock....and some of the newer members like The House and G diesel in the Animal ads:)...no disrespect to vinnie

[G Diesel]

i'd like to see a discounted combo pack of storm+shock....and some of the newer members like The House and G diesel in the Animal ads:)...no disrespect to vinnie

Haha... I've got a long way to go before I'm worthy of such status. But you made my day nonetheless. Peace, G

[McFEARson]

OO OO I HAVE ONE!! MAKE A FREAKIN TABLET IN THE ANIMAL PACK THAT'LL DISOLVE IN STOMACH ACID WITHIN AN HOUR. CUZ THE ONES I GOT DIDN'T..so i more than likely pooped it out...waste of $$ sorry to say..I WAS excited..

[jmil]

OO OO I HAVE ONE!! MAKE A FREAKIN TABLET IN THE ANIMAL PACK THAT'LL DISOLVE IN STOMACH ACID WITHIN AN HOUR. CUZ THE ONES I GOT DIDN'T..so i more than likely pooped it out...waste of $$ sorry to say..I WAS excited..

Why do you think that you excreted it out? You will most likely absorb whatever your body needs, then just excrete the extras.

[McFEARson]

If you want to see what if you're tablets will disolve in stomach acid put them in some vinegar and let them sit for an hour. If they don't disolve within an hour. They probably don't disolve in your stomach. I left mine in there for more than 24 hours n they just got a little soft
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art25856.asp

[mike2858]

vinegar has a PH of about 5 and ur stomach has PH of 1-2...

[ishanm]

some info on real gains would be great. i've heard the malto in it is low dextrose equivalent, but haven't seen this anywhere. is there any truth to this, or is it regular malto?

[Universal Rep]

If you want to see what if you're tablets will disolve in stomach acid put them in some vinegar and let them sit for an hour. If they don't disolve within an hour. They probably don't disolve in your stomach. I left mine in there for more than 24 hours n they just got a little soft
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art25856.asp

Hey bro, your stomach acid has a pH of 1-2. Vinegar is at roughly a pH of 5, so I wouldn't expect the tabs to break down quickly at this range. Throw them in some HCL and now you're talking.

[Universal Rep]

some info on real gains would be great. i've heard the malto in it is low dextrose equivalent, but haven't seen this anywhere. is there any truth to this, or is it regular malto?

ishanm, we use low de malto in our Real Gains.
Maltodextrin is a highly functional carb source. Malto is rapidly assimilated and doesn't come with some of the baggage other carb sources do (slow digestabilty). This is great for guys who are on a bulk. A quicker digesting shake means more room for that next whole meal. For guys who have a hard time getting enough calories because they always feel "full", a weight gainer shake like Real Gains can keep you chugging along.
Also remember the maltodextrin in Real Gains doesn't exist in a vacuum, so its effects are blunted when consumed with the other macronutrients, i.e protein and efa's, and you end up getting the benefits of a solid complex carb.

[Universal Rep]

Figured this thread would benefit from a bump... Some interesting things we've heard requested include:

1. Animal Pump sample
2. Boxed set for all the Animal DVDs

If ya have anything to add, any suggestions for improving the way Universal does business or the way G Diesel or I conduct ourselves, feel free to post here. Thanks for all the input fellas.

[Dallas68]

i think we need a MASS ONLINE GATHERING of all the "brothers" "animals" etc every Sunday to create revolution and change people's perspectives on this whole muscle building business. :cool: :D

[Universal Rep]

i think we need a MASS ONLINE GATHERING of all the "brothers" "animals" etc every Sunday to create revolution and change people's perspectives on this whole muscle building business. :cool: :D

Mass gathering, eh? Mass gathering....

[Dallas68]

Mass gathering, eh? Mass gathering....

:D i see sparks of neurons lighting up in your head man :D

[sobelik]

Figured this thread would benefit from a bump... Some interesting things we've heard requested include:

1. Animal Pump sample
2. Boxed set for all the Animal DVDs

If ya have anything to add, any suggestions for improving the way Universal does business or the way G Diesel or I conduct ourselves, feel free to post here. Thanks for all the input fellas.
yeah an animal pump sample would be awesome!

[bigbridrol]

yeah an animal pump sample would be awesome!

ill bump to this!

[Jbutts169]

Well, since you are bumping the thread i will repost my response from pg 2, since it wasnt commented on before. :

I must say, I would like to see a more cost efficient size bottle of Animal Max. That was the first protein I ever used, and honestly, I loved it. I know its probably the least talked about Animal Product, but its got an amazing nutritional profile. Tasted great too. Something like a 5 lb tub, because right now I am living off of ON 100% Whey, as that is all I can afford being in college right now, and the taste is starting to get real tiring. And, I love Nitro G for bulking, but maybe making that in a larger size would be awesome too. I could deal with paying 40 bucks for like 32 packets of Nitro G, instead of $20 for 16 servings.


Also, I know G may have hinted about this, but a re-formulation of M-Stak would be awesome too.

But on a side note, Universal is the ****. I will always use the Pak, Nitro, and Pump, because they are really helping me step up my game in the gym. AnimalPak.com always gives me the motivation I need. Thanks

[Universal Rep]

Well, since you are bumping the thread i will repost my response from pg 2, since it wasnt commented on before. :

I must say, I would like to see a more cost efficient size bottle of Animal Max. That was the first protein I ever used, and honestly, I loved it. I know its probably the least talked about Animal Product, but its got an amazing nutritional profile. Tasted great too. Something like a 5 lb tub, because right now I am living off of ON 100% Whey, as that is all I can afford being in college right now, and the taste is starting to get real tiring. And, I love Nitro G for bulking, but maybe making that in a larger size would be awesome too. I could deal with paying 40 bucks for like 32 packets of Nitro G, instead of $20 for 16 servings.


Also, I know G may have hinted about this, but a re-formulation of M-Stak would be awesome too.

But on a side note, Universal is the ****. I will always use the Pak, Nitro, and Pump, because they are really helping me step up my game in the gym. AnimalPak.com always gives me the motivation I need. Thanks

Some wise insights here. Some of things we can do, and others not really... Stay tuned though.... You may be surprised with what you see in the upcoming months.

[212121]

why don't you make a gainer without sugar? with a better source of energy like oatmeal or something? thanks

[Universal Rep]

why don't you make a gainer without sugar? with a better source of energy like oatmeal or something? thanks

Without sugar? Right now, Real Gains (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/real.html) is as low as we go with 5g. Going sugar-free would be a solid goal... Oatmeal is a great carb source, no doubt. But ya gotta remember--oatmeal takes longer to digest. When you're bumping up calories, you don't always want to feel "weighed down". Appetite is your friend.

[212121]

really? Maltodextrin is a sugar right? you're saying that it only has 5g of Maltodextrin?

[Universal Rep]

really? Maltodextrin is a sugar right? you're saying that it only has 5g of Maltodextrin?

Technically, malto is not a "sugar", though it does have a high GI... A lot of people don't like malto because of the high GI, but Real Gains is not a 100% malto product, so the protein & fats will blunt the GI score of malto. Think glycemic load.

[naturalguy]

IAnd, I love Nitro G for bulking, but maybe making that in a larger size would be awesome too. I could deal with paying 40 bucks for like 32 packets of Nitro G, instead of $20 for 16 servings.




I agree with this. Also maybe you can make Nitro G without the paks in a tub with a scooper and that would lower the cost as well because I think it's a GREAT product, very underatted, I think some people shy away because of the cost.

[1-Testosterone]

Its amazing why so many people avoid Maltodextrin in almost every product.....
This is the indispensible source of energy for any athlete and it can't be avoided!

[TheDukeUSMC]

1.Universal releasing a CD of music titled "Aninmal Sounds" or something like that for lifters....?

2.I didn't know Universal owns everything they make...perhaps letting the public in on some of the behind the scenes info. For example now that I know you guys own your own products from start to finish I'm more inclined to buy:)

3.

[Universal Rep]

1.Universal releasing a CD of music titled "Aninmal Sounds" or something like that for lifters....?

2.I didn't know Universal owns everything they make...perhaps letting the public in on some of the behind the scenes info. For example now that I know you guys own your own products from start to finish I'm more inclined to buy:)

3.

Don't know about #1. About #2, some guys really care about that, others don't. That's why the Company doesn't make a big fuss about it. The good thing about manufacturing your own products though is that you control every step of the process. If something goes wrong, there's no one to blame but yourself. This is an added incentive for ensuring that only the best quality products are made. Also, when you've got much invested in the equipment, you know that Company plans on being around a while.... I think being around nearly 25 years proves that. Now add the 100% money back guarantee and that should give the consumer complete confidence...

[snoopy2046]

The size of Uni-liver is OK for me. I love the taste of Storm grape and Real Gains chocolate (no clumps). Any plan of a creatine gluconate product? Regarding finning, I am not sure what Universal can do about it. There are hunters brutally slaughtering foxes, bears, tigers, dolphins, deers, and sharks, etc. for their fur or other body parts. I am afraid there will always be a demand and illegal(?) hunting will always exist. Just my 2 cents.
Any female fitness hottie will appear in a future Animal DVD? I would love to see some wallpaper and/or screensaver featuring some Animal ladies! A female host in the Animal DVDs may be great too. I know the Animal DVDs are supposed to be hardcore no-nonsense weight-lifting but some eye candy will be nice. E.g. seeing the guys relax in a pool or learning yoga or getting a massage.....

[TheDukeUSMC]

1. Can you put out a workout log that's good for say 3 months time? I got the owners manual but that only has a few pages in the back? Anything bigger?

2. When will you guys come around the northeast coast for any of the fitness/bodybuilding expos that are put on around here (unless you have already) you know like setting up a booth or something

3. Does any of the guys such as G Disel or Wrath make personal apperances?

[Togoro]

Could you ask the guy in the Animal dvds to not do that creepy thing with his tongue when he's lifting?

It kinda freaks me out:(





Also, I really love the Uni-Liver. Easily the most underrated product you guys have out.

[diablo4]

i got some real gain and i was wonderin how much water do u have to put and how many scopes and wen should i take it?Thanks

[EMISGOD]

I suggest Universal comps me another couple cans of Animal Nitro G...:mad:

[Fadil]

Ultra whey protein is a good product and cheap and it would be great if it can be available in bb.com.

[gymaddict01]

ummm....improve the mixability of Real Gains in a shaker cup. That is all :)


realgains mixes great in a shaker cup... one of the best mixing proteins ive ever taken.

[JH34PG]

in all honesty, a sample pak of the animal pump..
id like to start a serious NO2 product and supposedly animal pump is pretty good, a sample would give me a taste of what it would be like for a months supply

[steve_br]

A couple of weeks ago I emailed you about samples and for some info on how to stack your products. Your response time was quick and the info you gave me was right on. Just wanted to say thanks for that and for taking the time to answer my emails. I have tried the same with other companies and never heard **** back. Keep up the good work--Love the stack I am using.

[GPG]

Will Universal ever take glycocamine out of storm?

[Universal Rep]

Will Universal ever take glycocamine out of storm?

Yes. As I understand it, it will be removed in a future production run...

[diablo4]

Will Universal ever take glycocamine out of storm?

wat is glycomaine and wat r the affects of this?

[kerplunk]

Yes. As I understand it, it will be removed in a future production run...
Great!

[TimboBandit]

Waxy Maize Starch as a carb source in Real Gains. If you guys are the first major company to utilize WMS you'd get lots of business, it's a really promising-looking carb source getting alot of buzz.

[Dallas68]

Mass gathering, eh? Mass gathering....

**** did this ignite the forum idea eh ? ;) haha

[Jbutts169]

Maybe Animal could put out like a workout log type of book, something like what is already in the Owners Manual, but strictly one for workout and diet logs? I find that I run out of those logs pretty quick and have to send out for a new manual every 3 weeks or so.

Maybe a pre or post workout strictly creatine product from Animal would be cool. Dare I say, something like a Green Bulge from Controlled Labs, just like CEE and di Creatine Malate in capsules or something, for the people that dont like NO and Creatine blends, or for those who cant take NO products...just a thought. I would buy it, haha.

[mike2858]

i still think a night time protein *Hibernation* would be a good seller--any word on that yet?

also, there seems to be a large post-workout craze where i believe there is money to be made especially if produced to be affordable as many people are complaining about the prices of postWO shakes such as anatar and replenish.

[Universal Rep]

Lot of good suggestios here... Some I hear are in the works... So I hear...

[Sixpack]

cookies and cream isolate samples :) pleasssse

[Itln Stln]

I think you should reformulate LAVA. Add some Magnesium Creatine Chelate or Di-Creatine Malate to the mix. Also try to get rid of the white granules that settle at the bottom of the shaker, whatever they are? I think this is a great product for price and serving, although it would be nice to work everything if possible into 2 scoop's instead of 2.5.

[Universal Rep]

Waxy Maize Starch as a carb source in Real Gains. If you guys are the first major company to utilize WMS you'd get lots of business, it's a really promising-looking carb source getting alot of buzz.

Waxy maize, eh?

[mike2858]

i still think a night time protein *Hibernation* would be a good seller--any word on that yet?

also, there seems to be a large post-workout craze where i believe there is money to be made especially if produced to be affordable as many people are complaining about the prices of postWO shakes such as anatar and replenish.

dammit torrent is my idea!! i have earned a free jug! :)

[Docta J]

Waxy maize, eh?

WMS in real gains would be awesome! Most people have a problem with weight gainers cuz of the maltodextrin and what not, so WMS would be great for those that want a weight gainer but want to avoid malto!

[apardavila]

I really enjoy Universal products. I have been using Animal Pak and Storm the past few months, and I will be ordering Shock Therapy any day now. When taking the Shock, should I take it before or after taking an Animal Pak? Or instead of Shock, should I order Animal Pump, and take that along with Animal Pak?

I also love the fact that Universal is located in my home state. Keep doing it, Jersey style!

-- Arturo

[Universal Rep]

I really enjoy Universal products. I have been using Animal Pak and Storm the past few months, and I will be ordering Shock Therapy any day now. When taking the Shock, should I take it before or after taking an Animal Pak? Or instead of Shock, should I order Animal Pump, and take that along with Animal Pak?

I also love the fact that Universal is located in my home state. Keep doing it, Jersey style!

-- Arturo

Lot of flexibility where the Pak is concerned. Many lifters just take it with breakfast. So you'd take Shock pre and a single serving of Storm post-workout.

If you decide on the Pump, just replace the Shock above with Pump. Do you find you have enough energy when you train? Then Pump will probably work best for ya. If you need a little more kick, consider the Shock.

[apardavila]

I went ahead and ordered the Shock. Now, what's Torrent all about? Sounds like a pretty good post workout drink.

[Universal Rep]

I went ahead and ordered the Shock. Now, what's Torrent all about? Sounds like a pretty good post workout drink.

Pretty good? Yeah, you could say so... Here are some reviews:

Torrent:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1924751&highlight=Torrent+Feedback
http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=7204

Torrent + Animal Pump:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2625361&highlight=Torrent+Feedback

[JHICKS3301]

I went ahead and ordered the Shock. Now, what's Torrent all about? Sounds like a pretty good post workout drink.

Torrent is the shizzle :D

Can't beat it... Give it a shot and you won't go back ;)

[rampagefc77]

I went ahead and ordered the Shock. Now, what's Torrent all about? Sounds like a pretty good post workout drink.

you made the right choice on the schock therapy. i swear by that stuff to get my ass goin. i prefer the fruit punch to the grape, not sure which u ordered. either way you will be happy. any previous experience with stims?

[apardavila]

I started using NOExplode last year and loved it. But I felt like I wasn't getting the bang for the buck. I switched to NOX-CG3 because it was cost effective, but I didn't get the same kick I got from the NOExplode. So now, it's time to use the Shock.

After workouts, I quickly down some Storm, then a few minutes later I have a Whey/Casein combo. I have made some noticeable gains this year following that supp program.

[apardavila]

Pretty good? Yeah, you could say so... Here are some reviews:

Torrent:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1924751&highlight=Torrent+Feedback
http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=7204

Torrent + Animal Pump:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2625361&highlight=Torrent+Feedback
Good job, you sold me on the product. But talk about timing: I just filled out a BodyBuilding.com order today -- before I heard all the good things about Torrent.

[Universal Rep]

Good job, you sold me on the product. But talk about timing: I just filled out a BodyBuilding.com order today -- before I heard all the good things about Torrent.

Thanks, but I can't take the credit bro. I think Universal products speak for themselves.

[RAMBO316]

Think I speak for everybody when i say find a way to make torrent bout 10

bux cheaper.... i understand it costs that much for ingredients but you would

make more sales on a post workout supp than any company out right now.

Torrent works wonders and tastes liek wonders aswell.

[RAMBO316]

a more sensible suggestion aside from prices...

maybe a quality weight gainer... everybody needs to bulk sometime =)

or even a product to compete with supremacy and products like that.

[Universal Rep]

Think I speak for everybody when i say find a way to make torrent bout 10

bux cheaper.... i understand it costs that much for ingredients but you would

make more sales on a post workout supp than any company out right now.

Torrent works wonders and tastes liek wonders aswell.

Torrent's price, compared to other PWO shakes, is on the low end, making it economical in this segment. Throw in the unique and expensive ingredients only found in Torrent, and we think the value speaks for itself.

[Universal Rep]

a more sensible suggestion aside from prices...

maybe a quality weight gainer... everybody needs to bulk sometime =)

Never heard of Real Gains? The only low sugar gainer I know of that uses both micellar casein and whey isolates... A new flavor will be launched shortly.

[JHICKS3301]

Torrent's price, compared to other PWO shakes, is on the low end, making it economical in this segment. Throw in the unique and expensive ingredients only found in Torrent, and we think the value speaks for itself.

agreed

[RAMBO316]

Never heard of Real Gains? The only low sugar gainer I know of that uses both micellar casein and whey isolates... A new flavor will be launched shortly.

gonna have to look into that now cuz i was gonna just assume and purchase

cytogainer

[KingAlbert]

hey was up universal rep and all the other users but i was wondering about your Universal Daily Formula would it be recommended for a male since its 5mg of iron in it and i will be takin it daily i kno i kno foods we eat have hella iron but i wanna hear from some guys thats more knowledgeable then me thanks

[1987GN]

Torrent's price, compared to other PWO shakes, is on the low end, making it economical in this segment. Throw in the unique and expensive ingredients only found in Torrent, and we think the value speaks for itself.

Agreed.


One thing I don't like about ST is that theres about 20 ingredients split between 20g's, some of which I know need multiple grams to be effective.

Either :

a.)Do away with the proprietry blend
b.)Cut out some of the crap, add in something nice (I hear you added BA-at an effective dose though?) and really get it in there in terms of setting itself apart from the other preWO's. The pump from ST was really not there, but was from AP, so maybe you could work on the pump aspect, and flavor definately.


Also, you REALLY need to work on your labels. You guys are such a sweet company, but trying to sell your products in the store gets kinda tough when the labels look kinda bland compared to BSN/Gaspari/etc products. The animal line looks sweet and badass, but the Universal line looks kinda...well..janky..

[NoNameNecessary]

hey was up universal rep and all the other users but i was wondering about your Universal Daily Formula would it be recommended for a male since its 5mg of iron in it and i will be takin it daily i kno i kno foods we eat have hella iron but i wanna hear from some guys thats more knowledgeable then me thanks

In the future, express yourself in a more eloquent manner and utilize commas and periods. My head almost exploded when reading this.

I doubt 5mg of iron will do any harm but if you are overly concerned about it, use Universal's Animal Pak - from what I can see here (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/animalpak.html), it is iron free.

[vgalvan18]

bigger tubs of real gains. like <10lbs.

[SPACECLOWN]

Bigger Please

BCAA Stack and EAA Stack in 1 kilo containers
Real Gains - 10lbs
Torrent - 5lbs

[joe447]

Animal pak=Awsome

[MickMars]

I hope more of your promos will be open for non-US citizens. You have a HUGE
following all around the world and it seems abit unfair.

[Universal Rep]

bigger tubs of real gains. like <10lbs.

On the horizon...

[Universal Rep]

Bigger Please

BCAA Stack and EAA Stack in 1 kilo containers
Real Gains - 10lbs
Torrent - 5lbs

Real Gains bigger... Coming
Torrent... Bigger, came (6.1 lb).

EAA and BCAA Stack? No word as far as I know.

[Universal Rep]

I hope more of your promos will be open for non-US citizens. You have a HUGE
following all around the world and it seems abit unfair.

Close to 100 countries M. That said, the issue is mainly one of expensive shipping and problems at customs. If we ship products or samples at a premium, then they get confiscated, then Corporate is upset as is the consumer on the other end. It's a lose-lose situation. Maybe there will be closer coordination with international distributors in the future. In the meantime...

[History in Effect]

put beta-alanine in storm

[Universal Rep]

put beta-alanine in storm

BA is in both Storm and Shock Therapy, FYI.

But maybe Universal could launch a stand alone BA product? Just maybe...

[History in Effect]

BA is in both Storm and Shock Therapy, FYI.

But maybe Universal could launch a stand alone BA product? Just maybe...

How long has BA been in Storm and Shock Therapy?

[Universal Rep]

How long has BA been in Storm and Shock Therapy?

I think it goes back to the end of 2006. It's been a while, either way.

[History in Effect]

I think it goes back to the end of 2006. It's been a while, either way.

It must be a lower dosage then. Usually, I feel tingles when I try out BA products. I tried Storm samples back in 2006, but I had no clue it had BA in it. A BA product could work or what about an intra-workout product.

[Universal Rep]

It must be a loser dosage then. Usually, I feel tingles when I try out BA products. I tried Storm samples back in 2006, but I had no clue it had BA in it. A BA product could work or what about an intra-workout product.

It sounds to me like you're waiting for a stand alone Universal BA supplement. Stay tuned.

[History in Effect]

It sounds to me like you're waiting for a stand alone Universal BA supplement. Stay tuned.

Yeah, your right about that. I like Storm, but I feel the market can allow for that stand alone Universal BA supplement to exist.

[Universal Rep]

Yeah, your right about that. I like Storm, but I feel the market can allow for that stand alone Universal BA supplement to exist.

I agree.

[zune]

EAA and BCAA Stack? No word as far as I know.

yup you guys need to come out with one

[naturalguy]

Yeah, your right about that. I like Storm, but I feel the market can allow for that stand alone Universal BA supplement to exist.

I hear rumors that it may happen :)

[mrdead]

Bigger tubs of the watermelon EAA Stak!!!! That stuff is awesome!

[History in Effect]

I hear rumors that it may happen :)

Sounds good

[Austin109]

how about a little stronger stim in animal pump? im really resistant to stims and get nothing from that red pill. for the longest time i was oblivious that the red pill in m-stak was a stim. feel free to send me free cans of the prototypes so ill tell you how it works :)

[kerplunk]

Animal Beta Alanine + Cordyceps + Cittruline Malate product would be a cool endurance product.

[Universal Rep]

how about a little stronger stim in animal pump? im really resistant to stims and get nothing from that red pill. for the longest time i was oblivious that the red pill in m-stak was a stim. feel free to send me free cans of the prototypes so ill tell you how it works :)

Doubt it. The fellas who swear by Pump like the smooth, mild energy. For a kick in the ass, that's why we have Shock Therapy.

[History in Effect]

Doubt it. The fellas who swear by Pump like the smooth, mild energy. For a kick in the ass, that's why we have Shock Therapy.

I am use to stims, but Animal Pump did the trick. I took it for one day and noticed my muscles were fuller. I think I get better results by taking pills to get pumps and everything else works better in powder form.

[toobigforTV]

yoh should offer promotions that involve getting a free t-shirt with a certain combo of supplements.. and when are you getting more XL yellow animal shirts...im trying to buy one but it says sold out....its the the tightest shirt in the world...

[Universal Rep]

I am use to stims, but Animal Pump did the trick. I took it for one day and noticed my muscles were fuller. I think I get better results by taking pills to get pumps and everything else works better in powder form.


yoh should offer promotions that involve getting a free t-shirt with a certain combo of supplements.. and when are you getting more XL yellow animal shirts...im trying to buy one but it says sold out....its the the tightest shirt in the world...

Cool, H. Glad ya like Pump.

Yeah, it's hard for Corporate to keep it in stock right now. Guessing the "Reign of Yellow" at the Arnold had something to do with it. Seeing a swarm of yellow Animal shirts in the aisles of the Expo, cool.

[History in Effect]

Get more publicity for Universal Lava

[Universal Rep]

Get more publicity for Universal Lava

Whaddya waitin' for H? Hahahaha...

Seriously, it was an easier sell until Torrent came along. Still, LAVA is solid. What I used to use before Torrent.

[Universal Rep]

Figured I'd revive this. Tell us how we're doing. What we're not doing, or what we're not doing well. Corporate reads this thread.

[bloodsimple1234]

honestly you guys are doing a great job top to bottom.Customer service,product quality etc....every single aspect.It's nice knowing you guys have been around for so long,leads me to believe you will be around for that much longer!

I do like the intraworkout supp idea very much.

sometimes the only work that needs to be done is to keep up the good work!

[mrdead]

Nothing but kudos for Universal and all their lines and products... Reps are great as well... Dying to see if an intra workout drink comes about...

[Universal Rep]

honestly you guys are doing a great job top to bottom.Customer service,product quality etc....every single aspect.It's nice knowing you guys have been around for so long,leads me to believe you will be around for that much longer!

I do like the intraworkout supp idea very much.

sometimes the only work that needs to be done is to keep up the good work!

Universal, as a company, has been around since 1980. That's close to three decades. When Corporate plans, they think in terms of years, if not decades.

[\J/]

tell us what 8-8-8 is all about :D

[Universal Rep]

tell us what 8-8-8 is all about :D

It was revealed in that other thread...

[mrdead]

It was revealed in that other thread...

The NG Roast thread...?

[\J/]

It was revealed in that other thread...

brb checking other thread....

[goodinsidevoice]

nothing but mad reps to you guys.. customer service, prices, product effectiveness, promos, the list goes on...

One recommendation though, it would be awesome if you guys could have a powder form of animal pump (tri-creatine matrix full daily serving + NO). That would mean buying only 1 tub to fulfill all pre-workout and daily creatine needs. Very sweet and very convenient!

[\J/]

The NG Roast thread...?

i can see intra workout supp

[SMac2347]

Nothing but kudos for Universal and all their lines and products... Reps are great as well... Dying to see if an intra workout drink comes about...

Yea, definitely digging the intraworkout idea...

[Universal Rep]

nothing but mad reps to you guys.. customer service, prices, product effectiveness, promos, the list goes on...

One recommendation though, it would be awesome if you guys could have a powder form of animal pump (tri-creatine matrix full daily serving + NO). That would mean buying only 1 tub to fulfill all pre-workout and daily creatine needs. Very sweet and very convenient!

I consider Shock Therapy/Storm to be the powder version of Animal Pump.

[DD2INXS]

More gear for us female Animals! They had to hunt high and low just to find 1 shirt that I could wear to the ABC events! The iconic T fits me like a damn dress.

[bloodsimple1234]

Universal, as a company, has been around since 1980. That's close to three decades. When Corporate plans, they think in terms of years, if not decades.



that's right, and boy does it show.

[mrdead]

More gear for us female Animals! They had to hunt high and low just to find 1 shirt that I could wear to the ABC events! The iconic T fits me like a damn dress.

x2... As far as needing more Animal Gear for girls... The shirts fit me nicely, and I have no idea how a dress would fit... *L* (Gotta keep peace in the house...)

[mrdead]

Torrent RTD!!!

[Beast21]

I would really love to see more flavors for Torrent.

Flavor Ideas:

Blue Raspberry
Raspberry
Mango
Pineapple
Fruit Punch
Strawberry
Grape
etc.

I really like the tropical fruit trend you guys have going. This is such a nice change of pace from chocolate/vanilla protein shakes after my workout. You guys could try and make a better cherry Torrent. I like it a lot, but a little less thick would be nice. **thinking of more ideas**

[Beast21]

Yea, definitely digging the intraworkout idea...

This is also a good idea. Put something new in there though.

[RxAJ]

Fix the flavoring on Milk&Egg...PLEASE!

[purts]

Real Gains in bigger size! 20Lbs. or something... :p

[Beast21]

It was revealed in that other thread...

Link please :D

[nrk5014]

suggestion:

take me under your wing, and make me a rep.

































:p


...kidding....but seriously?

[carpet1456]

you guys should make an Animal license plate

Like this....

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2051/animalplatebg7.jpg

BTW if you do, I get one for free :p

[purts]

Well done Big Nick! :eek:

[usg543]

i would like to see samples of real gains because i'm interested in trying it.

[purts]

i would like to see samples of real gains because i'm interested in trying it.

There was some in the past on Universal Nutrition's website. I don't think they are available anymore though. You could e-mail info@universalnutrition.com and ask if there are some still available. Real Gains is good stuff!

[Blaze3131]

I usually go around bb.com looking for stacks like the bsn stacks, controlled labs stacks, etc. i love being able to try different companies and love the discounts offered in these stacks. I love everything universal, and would love to see you guys get some stack here on this website. iono maybe its not your choice but maybe try talking to bb.com ;-)

[purts]

I usually go around bb.com looking for stacks like the bsn stacks, controlled labs stacks, etc. i love being able to try different companies and love the discounts offered in these stacks. I love everything universal, and would love to see you guys get some stack here on this website. iono maybe its not your choice but maybe try talking to bb.com ;-)

There are already some combos/stack offered at a special price on BB.com if that's what you're talking about...

- Jak's Animal Stak Pak
- Jimmy's Animal Cuts Stak
- The House's Mass Stack (Animal Pump and Torrent)

[History in Effect]

Can you imagine the taste of white chocolate proteon bar? I can...

[jambarino]

nothing but love for universal.keep up the great service and products.would like to see some more animal gear like a shaker and gymbag.

[The_Animal11]

i'm just waiting for the new intraworkout supp! nothing would satisfy me more than to swap out my Xtend for a universal product to use between Pump and Torrent. Or Storm and Torrent. Or Storm and Storm. Or Pump, Nitro and Torrent. OMGZ WHICH ONE DOEZ I CHOOZES!!

PS- also pumped for the next meeting of the Columbus OH ABC! Yellow reign was awesome.

[goodinsidevoice]

you guys should make an Animal license plate

Like this....

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2051/animalplatebg7.jpg

BTW if you do, I get one for free :p

that is f'kin SICK SICK SICK! I want one! :D


Hey U-rep,one suggestion on the gear, you guys could come out with yellow or red iconic lifting straps with the black animal logo on them (like the house's straps) that would totally look wikkid!

[purts]

that is f'kin SICK SICK SICK! I want one! :D


Hey U-rep,one suggestion on the gear, you guys could come out with yellow or red iconic lifting straps with the black animal logo on them (like the house's straps) that would totally look wikkid!

...with our username embroided for an extra $2 :D

[LittleMan55]

Real Gains in bigger size! 20Lbs. or something... :p

x2!

How about some Orange Dreamsicle Torrent too?!?

[carpet1456]

you guys should make an Animal license plate

Like this....

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2051/animalplatebg7.jpg

BTW if you do, I get one for free :p

Bump for U-rep

[Universal Rep]

you guys should make an Animal license plate

Like this....

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2051/animalplatebg7.jpg

BTW if you do, I get one for free :p

Gotta admit, it looks pretty.... Freakin' awesome.

[Universal Rep]

i would like to see samples of real gains because i'm interested in trying it.

Corporate still has 'em, but they rotate every month. If you're interested, PM me here or in the FORVM...

[Universal Rep]

nothing but love for universal.keep up the great service and products.would like to see some more animal gear like a shaker and gymbag.

gymbag, lifting straps, new hoodie possibly in the works...

[Universal Rep]

i'm just waiting for the new intraworkout supp! nothing would satisfy me more than to swap out my Xtend for a universal product to use between Pump and Torrent. Or Storm and Torrent. Or Storm and Storm. Or Pump, Nitro and Torrent. OMGZ WHICH ONE DOEZ I CHOOZES!!

PS- also pumped for the next meeting of the Columbus OH ABC! Yellow reign was awesome.

Two choices:
Animal Pump-intraworkout supp-Torrent
Shock Therapy-intraworkout supp-Torrent

[goodinsidevoice]

Hey U-rep,one suggestion on the gear, you guys could come out with yellow or red iconic lifting straps with the black animal logo on them (like the house's straps) that would totally look wikkid!
...with our username embroided for an extra $2 :D

dude! that would be outta this world wikkid! I mean they would be like the custom animal jerseys, I would pay good money for those and would get one of each

[Illadelphia]

Can i get the shirt promised to me months ago? :confused:

The Omega one?

[Universal Rep]

Can i get the shirt promised to me months ago? :confused:

The Omega one?

Ya PM'd me? And it never arrived? Hit me up again brother. I remember it... I'll try to clear my box here, but if it fills up, try me in the FORVM... Sorry about that. We'll get it right. For the trouble, yeah sure, the new Omega one that's about to launch. Cool?

[carpet1456]

Can i get the shirt promised to me months ago? :confused:

The Omega one?

Me too :D