Off Roading Gone Wrong

[getting2big]

Whats better then that?

Well I went out to the desert today with a friend looking for soft sand to try out my new Grand Vitara.We were going around the desert for about an hour until we found the perfect spot. It was beautiful, a lot of soft sand to try out the new car.

I must say it performed very well, I didnt even need to throw it on 4x4. Until I went down a sort of ditch, which obviously I didnt see. The front tires went deep (not very) under the sand and the rear right tire was hanging in the air.

It took us quite some time to dig it out. Of course we didnt bring any shovels so we had to do it by hand. There was a lot of sand to remove from around the tires and even more from under the car. That I'm used to but the problem was that today was very windy so as soon we got down to dig the sand out we got a handful of sand blown in our eyes, also we rested for about 10 min. and found out that the wind was bring the sand back to were we already cleared :(.

In the end it took a lot of hard work and sweat, but we managed to get it out :cool:

[getting2big]

We also got to enjoy the scenery :D

[Hartski]

Dude, didn't they tell you those aren't suppossed to actually go off pavement? :D

[getting2big]

Dude, didn't they tell you those aren't suppossed to actually go off pavement? :D

It has this little button inside it that says "4H" "4L" so it had no choice but to go :D

I tried a lot of cars, most chevys (Yukon,Envoy or trail blazer) wouldnt have been able to go where I went in this car.

I'm telling you its alpha :D

[Hartski]

It has this little button inside it that says "4H" "4L" so it had no choice but to go :D

I tried a lot of cars, most chevys (Yukon,Envoy or trail blazer) wouldnt have been able to go where I went in this car.

I'm telling you its alpha :D

Nah, the only reason it has 4 wheel drive is to get in your driveway when you're too laxy to shovel snow.

THIS is a real 4x4.:cool:

http://extremetrucks.com/images/2002/bloomsburg/bl02_139.jpg

[getting2big]

Nah, the only reason it has 4 wheel drive is to get in your driveway when you're too laxy to shovel snow.

THIS is a real 4x4.:cool:

http://extremetrucks.com/images/2002/bloomsburg/bl02_139.jpg

Nah thats far from being a real off roader (seriously). This is just taking the easy way out. Compare stock cars without adding anything to them, you'll find that your truck doesnt have as much muscles as it shows.

The only American off roader is the Hummer1 and the Silvirado 4x4

[Hartski]

The only American off roader is the Hummer1 and the Silvirado 4x4


I believe thousands of Rabid JEEP fans would take offense to that.:D

[getting2big]

I believe thousands of Rabid JEEP fans would take offense to that.:D

You must understand that you're comparing different terrain. What is considered as an off roader in America isnt necessarily an offroader over hear. But I guess you're right, I'll throw in the Wrangler its actually bad ass.

But Japanese cars dominate the desert over here.

[Noodle Arms]

Hahahahahahah thats cause that thing is a grocier getter, I can't even believe you tried to take that thing through that sand hole.





The only American off roader is the Hummer1 and the Silvirado 4x4


Oh please your joking right ? H1 yes but silvirado = yeah right

[getting2big]

Hahahahahahah thats cause that thing is a grocier getter, I can't even believe you tried to take that thing through that sand hole.

Oh please your joking right ? H1 yes but silvirado = yeah right

As I said dude you are comparing different terrain. But hey how about you list some true American off roaders. I might have missed some, so just for a check up(even though I doubt there are any).

[Hartski]

But Japanese cars dominate the desert over here.

Where is "Over Here"?

And American trucks can dominate desert, too.;)

http://www.rockymountainsusp.com/DA_BajaBarSDuty.jpg

[getting2big]

Hahahahahahah thats cause that thing is a grocier getter, I can't even believe you tried to take that thing through that sand hole.


I understand what you're saying. I didnt think it had it in it. But as I said its performance was great.

[Hartski]

But as I said its performance was great.

Until you got stuck.:D

[getting2big]

Where is "Over Here"?

And American trucks can dominate desert, too.;)

http://www.rockymountainsusp.com/DA_BajaBarSDuty.jpg

Dude I said Stock cars (right out of the factory). Thats how you judge a car. Not by adding everything known and unknown to mankind on it. Thats just pure cheating.

I meant the Gulf Countries.

[getting2big]

Until you got stuck.:D

Ya you got that right. Still so would a lot of 4x4s

[Hartski]

Dude I said Stock cars (right out of the factory). Thats how you judge a car. Not by adding everything known and unknown to mankind on it. Thats just pure cheating.

I meant the Gulf Countries.

Oh, I didn't know you meant stock. ;)

I wouls still think any of the Chevy, Ford, or Dodge trucks would do better than a Grand Vitara simply because of the larger, wider tires and higher ground clearance. A Chevy S-10 ZR2 would be great for playing in the sand.

http://www.roadandtravel.com/roadtests/buyersguides/images/2002images/pickup/Chevy%20S10%20ZR2.jpg


or even an AMC Eagle. (Warning, flashback from the 80's! :D )

http://www.film.queensu.ca/Cj3b/Photos/Owners/Kamunen/KamunenSX4.JPG

[getting2big]

Oh, I didn't know you meant stock. ;)

I wouls still think any of the Chevy, Ford, or Dodge trucks would do better than a Grand Vitara simply because of the larger, wider tires and higher ground clearance. A Chevy S-10 ZR2 would be great for playing in the sand.

Ya chevy and dodge have some decent trucks but please take out ford, I prefer riding a bike rather than any of their cars.

Still no American car can compete with the japanese off roaders (except for Hummer1)



or even an AMC Eagle. (Warning, flashback from the 80's! :D )

http://www.film.queensu.ca/Cj3b/Photos/Owners/Kamunen/KamunenSX4.JPG

What the hell is this?

[Hartski]

Ya chevy and dodge have some decent trucks but please take out ford, I prefer riding a bike rather than any of their cars.

Still no American car can compete with the japanese off roaders (except for Hummer1)




What the hell is this?


I still say that just about any American truck will be better than any Japanese 4x4.

That car is an AMC Eagle. It's a 4x4 car they made back in the 80's One of my sister's boyfriends had one, and it was actually damn good in the snow/mud/sand.

[getting2big]

I still say that just about any American truck will be better than any Japanese 4x4.

That car is an AMC Eagle. It's a 4x4 car they made back in the 80's One of my sister's boyfriends had one, and it was actually damn good in the snow/mud/sand.

Check out Toyata Land Cruiser and Nissan Patrol. They are only topped by H1, no American truck comes close to them.

[CHIBI]

Check out Toyata Land Cruiser and Nissan Patrol. They are only topped by H1, no American truck comes close to them.

Yeah, Toyota makes decent cars. Suzuki 4's are nothing special.

[Zercher Yoke]

did you deflate your tyres so they spread out on the sand better?

Is cars,motorbikes really popular in mideast because of cheap oil?

[CHIBI]

did you deflate your tyres so they spread out on the sand better?

That's for real 4 wheel drivers, not Sunday in the sand in granmas car.

[achievasc92]

wow strong flex. lol IRS really killed you here.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=293066&d=1144440826

Looks like fun though, if you don't get stuck you're not wheeling hard enough.

[Snoopis]

I was in a similar situation with my VW Golf last spring, but I wasn't out looking for it, it was just a dirt road that had been turned into a sand pit- a few pics were posted here (http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=105355&highlight=trail+rated)


Looks like fun though, if you don't get stuck you're not wheeling hard enough.

That's what I was thinking! :)

[getting2big]

Yeah, Toyota makes decent cars. Suzuki 4's are nothing special.

Correct.

Suzukis arent that strong. But I heard the Samurai was badass, simply because of its low weight. I think they stopped making it.

[getting2big]

did you deflate your tyres so they spread out on the sand better?

My friends was going to deflate them but I thought it was too early for that. As you see there was no need for that, it would have also taken the fun out of the situation.


Is cars,motorbikes really popular in mideast because of cheap oil?

I dont get what you mean?

But off roading is really popular in Saudi Arabia and UAE. They got great terrain over their.

[getting2big]

wow strong flex. lol IRS really killed you here.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=293066&d=1144440826

Thats my friend not me :)


Looks like fun though, if you don't get stuck you're not wheeling hard enough.

Finally someone who understands. The only down part part was the sand in the eye, that was killing us.

[getting2big]

I was in a similar situation with my VW Golf last spring, but I wasn't out looking for it, it was just a dirt road that had been turned into a sand pit- a few pics were posted here (http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=105355&highlight=trail+rated)

That's what I was thinking! :)

Is the Golf forward drive?

I saw wood, you should have used the wood.

[GREENFEATHER]

I still say that just about any American truck will be better than any Japanese 4x4.

That car is an AMC Eagle. It's a 4x4 car they made back in the 80's One of my sister's boyfriends had one, and it was actually damn good in the snow/mud/sand.


My Suzuki Samurai will run RINGS around your J33P or American truck ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!!

Always carry a shovel and ALWAYS AIR DOWN TO 20 LBS IN THE SAND!! Your transmission and rears will thank you.

[ratmonkey]

My Suzuki Samurai will run RINGS around your J33P or American truck ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!!

Always carry a shovel and ALWAYS AIR DOWN TO 20 LBS IN THE SAND!! Your transmission and rears will thank you.
that the one with the three cylinder?

i wouldn't trust a grand vitara in snow, let alone off road.

[Slash_]

that must have been fun

[GREENFEATHER]

that the one with the three cylinder?

i wouldn't trust a grand vitara in snow, let alone off road.

Actually stock it has a 1300cc 4 banger, the earlier SJ and LJ series had 2,3 and 4 cylinder 2 cycle motors. :eek: That one has a 1600cc 16 valve 1995 Tracker motor in it, I can cruise at 75 all day long in that one. I have another with a VW 1600cc turbo diesel that runs on waste vegetable oil. They're cool toys, much better off road than the Vitaras. That thing is a Saturn Vue in Suzuki disguise.

[user3657]

im sorry, thats not offroading. reminds me of a trip down to drive on the beach. seen an issuie(sp?) AWD car/wagon thingy stuck 5feet from the entrance.

hi, you stuck?
yep!
you have 4wd?
yes!
then why arnt you moving?....................oh i see, you have AWD, its not the same thing!

LOL

[beerbaron105]

wiow, according to the vitara commercials with the extreme dude taking it everywhere extreme im surprised it got stuck :P

[getting2big]

im sorry, thats not offroading. reminds me of a trip down to drive on the beach. seen an issuie(sp?) AWD car/wagon thingy stuck 5feet from the entrance.

hi, you stuck?
yep!
you have 4wd?
yes!
then why arnt you moving?....................oh i see, you have AWD, its not the same thing!

LOL

LOL

I guess thats right but the Vitara is far from AWD thingy car. I guess you got to try it to understand. Dont jump to assumptions, you will be amazed to what it can actually do. As I said it preformed a lot better than most American V8 trucks and Jeeps.

[getting2big]

I'm going to plan another off road trip (seeing that most arent impressed). This time im going to get a Patrol or a Land Cruiser just to show you how strong these cars are and how you cant compare them with American Jeeps and Trucks.

Its gonna take sometime, I got to find the perfect spot. But I believe its going to worth it.

Wait....

[achievasc92]

Thats my friend not me :)




That's your car right? Look at the rear wheel up in the air, Independent Rear Suspension (IRS) is the reason it's up off the ground. A solid rear axle would have flexed enough to let both wheels hit the ground probably giving you enough traction to not get stuck in the first place.

[Chipman]

Seeing this picture made me think of some of the places where I used to get stuck.

It always seemed like whenever I finally got someone to pull me out they would always ask, "How in the hell did you get there" the answer was usually, "to many beers".

[getting2big]

That's your car right? Look at the rear wheel up in the air, Independent Rear Suspension (IRS) is the reason it's up off the ground. A solid rear axle would have flexed enough to let both wheels hit the ground probably giving you enough traction to not get stuck in the first place.

I guess you learn something new everyday. Do you know which cars have this in them?

[achievasc92]

I guess you learn something new everyday. Do you know which cars have this in them?

Trucks and truck based SUVs. IRS rides better but solid rear axles are better for offroad. Since the wheels are connected by a solid axle, the upwards motion of your left/rear wheel would have in turn pushed the right/rear down in contact with the ground.

Heres a good site that explains it pretty well with good pictures. . http://detr6oit.50megs.com/ifs2.html

[Snoopis]

Is the Golf forward drive?

I saw wood, you should have used the wood.

Yep, front wheel drive. I don't know that the wood would have helped. most of it was in odd shapes and probably wouldn't have supported a tire- plus, the sand only got worse further ahead. It was a fun day either way. :) You're not living if you don't get in a bind once in a while.

[Go Bears!]

Wow, where was this? That's really beautiful. And is that an albino camel? That is a rare thing to see! Just amazing. Glad you got unstuck and was able to enjoy the spectacular scenery!

[getting2big]

Yep, front wheel drive. I don't know that the wood would have helped. most of it was in odd shapes and probably wouldn't have supported a tire- plus, the sand only got worse further ahead. It was a fun day either way. :) You're not living if you don't get in a bind once in a while.

Wood or rocks, always place them under the tires, they usually help. As for the last statement, thats so true. I'm planing for something more extreme next week, right after my exams. Hope I screw things up :) but I doubt it because I'm looking for some bada** off road SUVs.

[getting2big]

Wow, where was this? That's really beautiful. And is that an albino camel? That is a rare thing to see! Just amazing. Glad you got unstuck and was able to enjoy the spectacular scenery!

That is in Kuwait. As for the camel I'm not sure. I remember seeing a lot of these white camels but not as many as the brown ones but it was fun driving between them. Also after getting out and returning to the road we had this idiot camel runing across the road, we almost hit him :mad:. But yes it was fun :D

[Hartski]

You should get some larger, wider tires for your Grand Vitara. That'll really help it's Baja capabilities. Plus it'll make it look cooler. :D

[getting2big]

You should get some larger, wider tires for your Grand Vitara. That'll really help it's Baja capabilities. Plus it'll make it look cooler. :D

I dont think the problem is with the tires. The car needs a bit more height. Also cmon man dont place these idea in my mind, I dont want to have to throw more money on the car :(

[Hartski]

I dont think the problem is with the tires. The car needs a bit more height. Also cmon man dont place these idea in my mind, I dont want to have to throw more money on the car :(

That's one drawback to buying something like that. No-one makes lift kits or any cool accessories for them. And there's really not a whole lot of room to put bigger wheels and tires on it without a lift kit.

You could probably sell your Grand Vitara, buy a used Jeep Wrangler, and have enough money left over to start tricking it out.

[getting2big]

That's one drawback to buying something like that. No-one makes lift kits or any cool accessories for them. And there's really not a whole lot of room to put bigger wheels and tires on it without a lift kit.

As I said you cant judge your car by applying accessories to it. If you really want to judge your car and yourself you must be able to do it with a stock car. Thats the beauty in off roading, if you start playing with the car then you lost everything.

Stock car = Skilled Driver.

Accessorised = Driver looking for the easy way out.


You could probably sell your Grand Vitara, buy a used Jeep Wrangler, and have enough money left over to start tricking it out.


Wrangler is great off roader but sucks on raod also it doesnt have good gas consumption. The Vitara performed well off road , has great gas consumption and believe it or not it has a strong grip to the road.

I used to drive a 1996 Suburban 5.7 liter , 8 cylinder and around 335 HP, it drank gas as you would drink water when placed in a scorching desert. I miss that car it was great and my true love. But the Vitara is economic and everything I wanted.

[Hartski]

As I said you cant judge your car by applying accessories to it. If you really want to judge your car and yourself you must be able to do it with a stock car. Thats the beauty in off roading, if you start playing with the car then you lost everything.

Stock car = Skilled Driver.

Accessorised = Driver looking for the easy way out.





I totally dissagree on that. No-one makes a vehicle that will do everything I'd want, so I customize what i have until it will do what I want. Besides, I love working on cars, so modifying and customizing cars and trucks is half of the fun.

If anything, I'd say that someone who settles for a stock vehicle is taking the easy way out.;)

[getting2big]

I totally dissagree on that. No-one makes a vehicle that will do everything I'd want, so I customize what i have until it will do what I want. Besides, I love working on cars, so modifying and customizing cars and trucks is half of the fun.

If anything, I'd say that someone who settles for a stock vehicle is taking the easy way out.;)

Modifying cars is very interesting. But stock cars builds drivers off roading skills. With a stock car you will know when to step on the brakes and when to step on the accelerator, you will know when to turn the wheel and when to keep it straight. You will know how to get your car out of ditchs and soft sand without relying on others.

Cars with big tires will never get stuck unless they are drove by a women :D and for that you will never get the neccessary skills.

[Hartski]

Well, you always start out with a stock vehicle. You learn what it can and can't do, and how to push it to it's limit. Then you start going on rougher terrain, get stuck and break parts, so you fix it and modify it so it'll do a bit more, then you push it too hard and something else breaks, so you have to fix and modify again, ect.


And trust me, the more stuff you do to your vehicle so it'll go on the roughest terrain possible, the more skilled you have to be driving it because it gets alot more dangerous. Like if you are rock crawling, you can roll the vehicle and kill everyone in the truck and any bystanders that get in the way. If you roll your truck in a mud bog, you can drown before you get out, ect.

[getting2big]

Well, you always start out with a stock vehicle. You learn what it can and can't do, and how to push it to it's limit. Then you start going on rougher terrain, get stuck and break parts, so you fix it and modify it so it'll do a bit more, then you push it too hard and something else breaks, so you have to fix and modify again, ect.


And trust me, the more stuff you do to your vehicle so it'll go on the roughest terrain possible, the more skilled you have to be driving it because it gets alot more dangerous. Like if you are rock crawling, you can roll the vehicle and kill everyone in the truck and any bystanders that get in the way. If you roll your truck in a mud bog, you can drown before you get out, ect.

I must say I never thought about it this way, I guess you have a point there. I still prefer stock cars, I guess its because we dont have harsh terrain over here. Its only sand and harder means the sand is more and softer, thats why you dont need to tune up your car. Atleast not hardcore tune up.

[Hartski]

I must say I never thought about it this way, I guess you have a point there. I still prefer stock cars, I guess its because we dont have harsh terrain over here. Its only sand and harder means the sand is more and softer, thats why you dont need to tune up your car. Atleast not hardcore tune up.


Yeah, we have all sorts of rough terrain, so there's tons of different ways to build up your truck. A Mudder will be totally different than a Baja truck, and those are way different than a rock crawler.

Moab, Utah has some of the craziest off road trails. Check out their site. There's some pictures of each trail.

http://www.utah.com/offroad/moab_area.htm

[getting2big]

Yeah, we have all sorts of rough terrain, so there's tons of different ways to build up your truck. A Mudder will be totally different than a Baja truck, and those are way different than a rock crawler.

Moab, Utah has some of the craziest off road trails. Check out their site. There's some pictures of each trail.

http://www.utah.com/offroad/moab_area.htm

I hate you........That was beautiful. Seriously Thats was just beautiful. The terrain was spectacular.

[Budweiser]

It has this little button inside it that says "4H" "4L" so it had no choice but to go :D

I tried a lot of cars, most chevys (Yukon,Envoy or trail blazer) wouldnt have been able to go where I went in this car.

I'm telling you its alpha :D
If that car were any gayer than it is I'd have to call batman.

[getting2big]

If that car were any gayer than it is I'd have to call batman.

Thats a bit harsh :D

But I really dont get the gay thing anyway. So it makes no difference if it was or wasnt a gay car.

[Budweiser]

Thats a bit harsh :D

But I really dont get the gay thing anyway. So it makes no difference if it was or wasnt a gay car.
But it was a gay car, if you want an off roading vehicle come to my neck of the woods. Or just ask Hartski to post some more mudder pics.

That car is not alpha.

[getting2big]

But it was a gay car, if you want an off roading vehicle come to my neck of the woods. Or just ask Hartski to post some more mudder pics.

That car is not alpha.

I know its not the best, but it performed quite well and as I said it performed a lot better than most V8 SUVs. But if everything goes according to my plans then next week I will post the alpha off roader. Wait and you'll see.

[Hartski]

But it was a gay car, if you want an off roading vehicle come to my neck of the woods. Or just ask Hartski to post some more mudder pics.

That car is not alpha.


Well, like he said, all they have is sand over there, so his little Grand Vitara is good enough.



Now THIS is Alpha.:D

http://truckworld.com/Shows-Events/97-Bloomsburg/Tuff1a.jpg

http://truckworld.tenmagazines.com/Travel-Adventure/98-rockcrawling/rc20.jpg


These rock crawlers are crazy.:eek:

http://truckworld.tenmagazines.com/Travel-Adventure/02-Inter-NM_crawl/NM-crawl.html







It's great how people from different parts of the world and different cultures can all appreciate how great off-roading is. :D

[One More Time]

My Suzuki Samurai will run RINGS around your J33P or American truck ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!!

Always carry a shovel and ALWAYS AIR DOWN TO 20 LBS IN THE SAND!! Your transmission and rears will thank you.


Let's "hook em up first"..... buying new pinion gears and a transmission will be the only rings you run....LOL!

[GREENFEATHER]

Let's "hook em up first"..... buying new pinion gears and a transmission will be the only rings you run....LOL!


If you wanna hook up, we'll hook up to my diesel. Your choice, the Rover or the Max? :D I'm all about draggin' gassers to death.

[bigfor15]

To the threadstarter, I agree with you a lot as far as the modification thing goes. In your neck of the...uhhhh....desert you don't really have trees, boulders, or very many mudholes to get around. The idea behind American offroading is to build up a vehicle based on your strengths and preferences and slowly build your skill level, as not to flip your rig and cause thousands of dollars in costly repairs.

Also whereas your vitara is brand new and probably expensive by middle class standards, Wranglers and other such American vehicles are fairly inexpensive and can be bought used at a good price and modified to your hearts content. The Wrangler itself is one of the most flexible modifying vehicles to ever hit the market. Hell, if you buy one you're gauranteed to drop an assload of paychecks into the beast. Another thing is that your vehicle is most likely a daily driver as well. Here in the states it's a fairly standard thing to build a project vehicle which if wrecked will not cause you to not be able to commute back to work on Monday.

There are very large differences between the two styles and they really cannot be compared without being very open-minded. But hey, everybody has their own cup of tea. :D

[getting2big]

To the threadstarter, I agree with you a lot as far as the modification thing goes. In your neck of the...uhhhh....desert you don't really have trees, boulders, or very many mudholes to get around. The idea behind American offroading is to build up a vehicle based on your strengths and preferences and slowly build your skill level, as not to flip your rig and cause thousands of dollars in costly repairs.

Also whereas your vitara is brand new and probably expensive by middle class standards, Wranglers and other such American vehicles are fairly inexpensive and can be bought used at a good price and modified to your hearts content. The Wrangler itself is one of the most flexible modifying vehicles to ever hit the market. Hell, if you buy one you're gauranteed to drop an assload of paychecks into the beast. Another thing is that your vehicle is most likely a daily driver as well. Here in the states it's a fairly standard thing to build a project vehicle which if wrecked will not cause you to not be able to commute back to work on Monday.

There are very large differences between the two styles and they really cannot be compared without being very open-minded. But hey, everybody has their own cup of tea. :D

Actually that made a lot of sense. You have different terrain over there, so I guess you need to tune up your cars to be able to tackle these obstacles. I wish I could go to America and trying some off roading over there, sounds really great.

Hartski stop posting these damn pics of different terrains you've got :mad: Or I'm getting on the next plane to America :D

[bigfor15]

Actually that made a lot of sense. You have different terrain over there, so I guess you need to tune up your cars to be able to tackle these obstacles. I wish I could go to America and trying some off roading over there, sounds really great.

Hartski stop posting these damn pics of different terrains you've got :mad: Or I'm getting on the next plane to America :D


Seriously man, if you ever get the chance to come over here then do it. Not only is there good offroading but the scenery is uncomprehensibly beautiful.

[getting2big]

Seriously man, if you ever get the chance to come over here then do it. Not only is there good offroading but the scenery is uncomprehensibly beautiful.

I would love to come to America. But I just have this thing with western countries. I always feel unwelcomed :D I tried it with Britian and it was hell. So I'm not sure about America. Maybe I'll give it another try :D

[bigfor15]

I would love to come to America. But I just have this thing with western countries. I always feel unwelcomed :D I tried it with Britian and it was hell. So I'm not sure about America. Maybe I'll give it another try :D


Haha, we don't really care too much as long as you have a passport and can speak at least a lick of English. Hell, come over and bring your wallet with you, I'll help you build a nice offroader. :D

[getting2big]

Haha, we don't really care too much as long as you have a passport and can speak at least a lick of English. Hell, come over and bring your wallet with you, I'll help you build a nice offroader. :D


Haha

My wallet???? Why did you ask about my wallet??? lol j/k

Well I have America on my countries to visit list. I actually been there when I was 11yo (Houston/Texas).

I remember Chucky Cheese (I guess thats the name) :D That place was cool.

[bigfor15]

Haha

My wallet???? Why did you ask about my wallet??? lol j/k

Well I have America on my countries to visit list. I actually been there when I was 11yo (Houston/Texas).

I remember Chucky Cheese (I guess thats the name) :D That place was cool.



Oh god, you just brought memories of my childhood heaven back. :D

[KrushR]

Chuck E Cheese rules, man. :D

As for Jeep Wranglers, a friend and I were in his yesterday checking out my land I just bought. We were all over the 3.5 acres, heavily wooded. It got in and out of some pretty thick stuff. The Vitara wouldn't have made it for one reason: ground clearance. We had to climb in and out of quite a few large ruts, and barely made it.

We broke it in pretty well. The subdivision is under construction, so there are plenty of undeveloped lots. We went down one road at about 35-40 MPH and when the pavement stopped, we kept going into a field area. There was a bump and whoom...we were airborne for a split second. We just about endo'd, but came out of it all right. We turned a few donuts, ran through a dry stream bed and went home. Four Wheeling at it's middle-class finest. :D

[getting2big]

Oh god, you just brought memories of my childhood heaven back. :D

Ya these are good memories. I had a lot of good friends there, but there was this one idiot kid who told on me when I tried to cheat from him on maths exam :mad:

[getting2big]

Chuck E Cheese rules, man.

As for Jeep Wranglers, a friend and I were in his yesterday checking out my land I just bought. We were all over the 3.5 acres, heavily wooded. It got in and out of some pretty thick stuff. The Vitara wouldn't have made it for one reason: ground clearance. We had to climb in and out of quite a few large ruts, and barely made it.

No I dont think it could :D


We broke it in pretty well. The subdivision is under construction, so there are plenty of undeveloped lots. We went down one road at about 35-40 MPH and when the pavement stopped, we kept going into a field area. There was a bump and whoom...we were airborne for a split second. We just about endo'd, but came out of it all right. We turned a few donuts, ran through a dry stream bed and went home. Four Wheeling at it's middle-class finest. :D

LOL

Somethings dont change no matter where you live. I guess men are men where ever they are :D

A friend of mine has a wrangler. But hes a wuss :mad: he doesnt even take it to the desert unless there was no wind. Just to make sure nothing happens to the paint or the shine of his car :mad:

I'm looking for one to rent for some off roading next week but I still couldnt find any :( . Its either going to be a Land Cruiser, Patrol or Pajero.

[bigfor15]

Ya these are good memories. I had a lot of good friends there, but there was this one idiot kid who told on me when I tried to cheat from him on maths exam :mad:


Haha, do you still hold it against him? lol.


So did you live here at one point in time?

[getting2big]

Haha, do you still hold it against him? lol.

Sure I do it was my first day in that school and I was caught cheeting :D


So did you live here at one point in time?

I think I stayed for about 3-4months. It was around halloween, I remember that because I dressed as dracula and made a jacko lantern...lol

[bigfor15]

Sure I do it was my first day in that school and I was caught cheeting :D



I think I stayed for about 3-4months. It was around halloween, I remember that because I dressed as dracula and made a jacko lantern...lol


Oh, that's cool man. I bet it's a big difference between here and there.

[getting2big]

Oh, that's cool man. I bet it's a big difference between here and there.

Ya sure is. You guys have something called winter :D It has something to do with the weather getting cold.

[bigfor15]

Ya sure is. You guys have something called winter :D It has something to do with the weather getting cold.


Lmao!!! Yeah, and it gets to be a pain in the ass when you have all of the road salts splashing your car. I swear you have to rubberized undercoat every vehicle that you run in the winter. My dad's worktruck has rhino-lining though. :D

[Hartski]

Hartski stop posting these damn pics of different terrains you've got :mad: Or I'm getting on the next plane to America :D


If you really want to see what America has to offer, Montana is a good place to go. My Aunt and Uncle live on this lake:

http://www.pigseye.com/mc/northern/Flathead2.jpg

And Iowa isn't too bad, either. ;)

[AbramsM1]

At one point somebody asked about real American off road vehicles...

Here's my list-

M37 Powerwagon
Any Flatfender jeep
2005 or Newer Powerwagon (factory lockers and winch, what else can you ask for)
68-73 Ford F250 Highboys
Hummer H1 and the H3
Jeep TJ
Jeep XJ
Early (small) Broncos

Any of those should suffice.

Regards,
Abrams

[bigfor15]

At one point somebody asked about real American off road vehicles...

Here's my list-

M37 Powerwagon
Any Flatfender jeep
2005 or Newer Powerwagon (factory lockers and winch, what else can you ask for)
68-73 Ford F250 Highboys
Hummer H1 and the H3
Jeep TJ
Jeep XJ
Early (small) Broncos

Any of those should suffice.

Regards,
Abrams


Haha, you forgot the Jeep ZJ.......

Just kidding, if I had a grand cherokee that thing would never leave pavement.

[getting2big]

This is where I'm thinking of going next time. It has more variety in terrain and nice sand hills.

[getting2big]

more pics.

Also I thought I should point out that the sea is on the opposite side :D

[getting2big]

Does anyone know how I can uplaod short vid. clips?

[Hartski]

Damn, dude. Don't you have any trees over there? I'd be sick of everything looking the same wherever I looked.

[getting2big]

Damn, dude. Don't you have any trees over there? I'd be sick of everything looking the same wherever I looked.

LOL

I remember seeing 3-4 trees. I'll try and take a pic of them on friday.

But seriously dont you like the desert?

[getting2big]

I just remembered a place with a lot of trees. I'll take pics of that also. Just to make you happy :D

[Hartski]

LOL

I remember seeing 3-4 trees. I'll try and take a pic of them on friday.

But seriously dont you like the desert?


I've never been to a desert, but I don't imagine I'd like it much. I like places with lots of forests and wildlife. Places that have different seasons.

I need to steal my sister's digi-cam so I can take some pics of my place and the surrounding countryside. Every nice day I go for a drive, I look at the scenery and wonder how anyone would want to live somewhere else.

[getting2big]

I've never been to a desert, but I don't imagine I'd like it much. I like places with lots of forests and wildlife. Places that have different seasons.

I need to steal my sister's digi-cam so I can take some pics of my place and the surrounding countryside. Every nice day I go for a drive, I look at the scenery and wonder how anyone would want to live somewhere else.

I was actually going to ask you to take pics of your area. I would love to see how it looks like. As for the desert, well you get used to it, its quite beautiful just seeing sand and emptiness as far as your eyes can take you.

There is also a natural reserve, it has 3 types of rabbits and about 5 types of snakes and a lot of different birds.

As for wildlife, well I showed you camels but we also got those :D.

[bigfor15]

Man, despite the lack of trees I'm loving those dunes/rocky surfaces. I'll try to get some pics of trails around here in West Virginia. I'll show you why it's called the mountain state. :D

[bigfor15]

http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v98/revolutionyes/wv-jambo/DSC00962.jpg

http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v98/revolutionyes/wv-jambo/DSC00940.jpg

http://4x4icon.com/offroad/021905_blackwater_canyon/dsc08258.jpg

http://4x4icon.com/offroad/021905_blackwater_canyon/dsc08271.jpg


Just a few that I could find. The first two were from the West Virginia Children's Charity Jeep Jamboree and the second two are from the blackwater canyon

[getting2big]

Last three pics are awesome, I wouldnt know what to do in the first one. I dont like getting into mud (you cant dig, you cant push, what the hell should you do???)

I would love to try getting into snow. I have no idea how the car would react to it. Also falling into ditchs is great.

Got any more pics of offroading at your place?

Do you go offroading?

Whats your car?

[One More Time]

If you wanna hook up, we'll hook up to my diesel. Your choice, the Rover or the Max? :D I'm all about draggin' gassers to death.


You said Samurai.... not diesel.....LOL! I guess my point was....everything has a weakness...LOL!

[Hartski]

Last three pics are awesome, I wouldnt know what to do in the first one. I dont like getting into mud (you cant dig, you cant push, what the hell should you do???)




You use your winch or another truck to pull you out. That's why we put so much extra stuff into our trucks. ;)


I found a couple of pictures online of the motorcycle hillclimb that is about a mile from my house. (Pretty much all of the trees in the pics were destroyed by the tornado that hit last week)

http://overprotectivemother.com/HillClimb/DSC00314.JPG

http://overprotectivemother.com/HillClimb/DSC00342.JPG

http://overprotectivemother.com/HillClimb/DSC00337.JPG

[bigfor15]

Last three pics are awesome, I wouldnt know what to do in the first one. I dont like getting into mud (you cant dig, you cant push, what the hell should you do???)

I would love to try getting into snow. I have no idea how the car would react to it. Also falling into ditchs is great.

Got any more pics of offroading at your place?

Do you go offroading?

Whats your car?

Well, mud isn't a problem if you've got lockers. :D

I don't think I have anymore of my pictures because I lost them when I reformatted my comp. I don't have an offroader right now but I'm getting a 95 Jeep Wrangler Rio Grande with Dana lockers front and back in a few weeks.


The rig I used to have was a 79 Chevy Blazer with an overhauled Chevy small block. I had an edelbrock intake, 4 barrel carb, hooker headers, and a flowmaster exhaust. It had a four inch suspension lift and 36's (god I have no clue how they tucked when I flexed). That beast could go anywhere and do anything. I let it sit for too long though and it just eventually rusted out. I took the entire front clip off and pulled the engine then got rid of it. The engine still lives on in an older model Chevy Silverado.

edit: by the way, the engine was supposed to go in one of these
http://www.elkinsmotorspeedway.com/20eb4870.jpg

[Hartski]

For SUV and Pickup Drivers

The National Transportation Safety Board recently divulged they had covertly
funded a project with the U.S. auto makers for the past five years, whereby
the auto makers were installing black box voice recorders in four-wheel
drive pickup trucks and SUV's in an effort to determine, in fatal accidents,
the circumstances in the last 15 seconds before the crash.

They were surprised to find in 40 of the 50 states the recorded last words
of drivers in 61.2 percent of fatal crashes were, "Oh, ****!"

Only the states of Nevada, Oklahoma, Tennessee, South Carolina, North
Carolina, Mississippi, Texas, Arkansas, Alabama and Kentucky were different,
where 89.3 percent of the final words were, "Hold my beer, I'm gonna try
somethin."






:D

[bigfor15]

For SUV and Pickup Drivers

The National Transportation Safety Board recently divulged they had covertly
funded a project with the U.S. auto makers for the past five years, whereby
the auto makers were installing black box voice recorders in four-wheel
drive pickup trucks and SUV's in an effort to determine, in fatal accidents,
the circumstances in the last 15 seconds before the crash.

They were surprised to find in 40 of the 50 states the recorded last words
of drivers in 61.2 percent of fatal crashes were, "Oh, ****!"

Only the states of Nevada, Oklahoma, Tennessee, South Carolina, North
Carolina, Mississippi, Texas, Arkansas, Alabama and Kentucky were different,
where 89.3 percent of the final words were, "Hold my beer, I'm gonna try
somethin."






:D

Lmao, wonder why West Virginia wasn't in there? There's some crazy **** that happens in my neck of the woods.



Oh, and I'm going to go take a peek at a Jeep either today or tomorrow. If the parents approve I'm gonna finance the beast and pay it off by the end of summer. :D

[One More Time]

For SUV and Pickup Drivers

The National Transportation Safety Board recently divulged they had covertly
funded a project with the U.S. auto makers for the past five years, whereby
the auto makers were installing black box voice recorders in four-wheel
drive pickup trucks and SUV's in an effort to determine, in fatal accidents,
the circumstances in the last 15 seconds before the crash.

They were surprised to find in 40 of the 50 states the recorded last words
of drivers in 61.2 percent of fatal crashes were, "Oh, ****!"

Only the states of Nevada, Oklahoma, Tennessee, South Carolina, North
Carolina, Mississippi, Texas, Arkansas, Alabama and Kentucky were different,
where 89.3 percent of the final words were, "Hold my beer, I'm gonna try
somethin."






:D


Or "Hold my beer, and watch this."

[Hartski]

Or "Hold my beer, and watch this."

" I saw this on the TV last night!"

[bigfor15]

" I saw this on the TV last night!"

"I'll hold it, you light it."

Oh...wait...sort of off topic. :D

[Hartski]

"I'll hold it, you light it."

Oh...wait...sort of off topic. :D

I hope you're talking about firecrackers.

[KrushR]

"If we flip this thing, you're pretty strong, right?"

"That hole doesn't look too deep"

"Yeah, it'll hold"

"Nah, it's just a little stick/rock/ravine"

"Which way is North?"

or in the case of going onto someone else's property,
"Which way did we come in?"

[Hartski]

"If we flip this thing, you're pretty strong, right?"

"That hole doesn't look too deep"

"Yeah, it'll hold"

"Nah, it's just a little stick/rock/ravine"

"Which way is North?"

or in the case of going onto someone else's property,
"Which way did we come in?"

Or in the case of fixing the truck:

"Where do all these extra parts go?"

[One More Time]

"That hole doesn't look too deep"

"Yeah, it'll hold"



OMG.....LOL! You are bringing back memories....reps...to you and Hartski

Also, "You think we can make it?" to your drunk friend..... Drunk friend "Well hell yeah we can"

[KrushR]

Also, "You think we can make it?" to your drunk friend..... Drunk friend "Well hell yeah we can"
or:

"Do you think we can make it?"

"Prolly not"

"oh, OK."


*crickets chirping*









*swig of beer*



















*mashes gas anyway*

[One More Time]

or:

"Do you think we can make it?"

"Prolly not"

"oh, OK."


*crickets chirping*









*swig of beer*



















*mashes gas anyway*


There is one thing you can't deny........ Especially when you say things like this.....You are a definately a redneck too!!!! LOL.

[Hartski]

A sign of a true Redneck is an old Chevy truck with 4x4 wood blocks for a body lift. :D

[One More Time]

A sign of a true Redneck is an old Chevy truck with 4x4 wood blocks for a body lift. :D


LOL..... Man, I swear you are from Tennessee.....Don't forget the what I call 2-tone paint job. You know....where the original bed rusted out, so they got a bed from another truck that is completely a different color. They never bother to paint the cab and bed to match (even primer would look better.

[Geno]

You guys have no idea how many memories this brings back. For a 4-5 year period fourwheeling was all I did for recreation. Needless to say I became intimately familiar with the late 70's cj5 and cj7.

[KrushR]

There is one thing you can't deny........ Especially when you say things like this.....You are a definately a redneck too!!!! LOL.
I've never denied being from The South. My habits are by in large Redneck, but I have all my teeth, fingers and eyes. I hunt, and eat what I shoot, but it is by no means my sole means for providing meat for the family. :D


but yeah, I'm a good 'ol boy. Never meanin' no harm.

[KrushR]

Or in the case of fixing the truck:

"Where do all these extra parts go?"
and what did you do?










throw them in the box with the parts from when you fixed the truck the last time. :D

[Hartski]

and what did you do?










throw them in the box with the parts from when you fixed the truck the last time. :D

Yep. The "I got no clue what it is, but I'm sure we'll figure it out eventially." box.

We have one of those for each vehicle. Remember, between me and my Dad, we have 5 trucks and 2 cars, 2 riding lawn mowers, and a skidloader in the garages. :D

[KrushR]

in the garages. :D
:D

[Hartski]

Well, we have a 2 stall attached garage with a carport for Dad's work truck, and we have the 40x60 shop for the rest of the vehicles. :D

[One More Time]

You guys have no idea how many memories this brings back. For a 4-5 year period fourwheeling was all I did for recreation. Needless to say I became intimately familiar with the late 70's cj5 and cj7.


You are missing it right now aren't you.....LOL! I have a couple of friends that had peeps (that is what we called them). They would definately get the job done.

[blood vs. water]

damn, i wanna go to the country and go driving in the mud. driving in the urban jungle everyday kind of gets annoying after a while.

[getting2big]

damn, i wanna go to the country and go driving in the mud. driving in the urban jungle everyday kind of gets annoying after a while.

Well westerns seem to like going to Dubai. I heard they have organized off roading trips over there. I'll try posting some pics of these trips. They're a lot more fun than Kuwait.

[One More Time]

damn, i wanna go to the country and go driving in the mud. driving in the urban jungle everyday kind of gets annoying after a while.


It is definately fun.....lots of maintenance and broken parts but man is it fun.

[blood vs. water]

It is definately fun.....lots of maintenance and broken parts but man is it fun.

well, with the amount and size of the pot holes we have in the city, im used to broken parts. plus a couple of the things that you guys say to each other when off roading is something i say to myself before hitting one. so i can relate :cool:

[bigfor15]

damn, i wanna go to the country and go driving in the mud. driving in the urban jungle everyday kind of gets annoying after a while.

And that, my friend, is the first step to becoming a recreational offroader.