Help on vertical

[CRHLHVK]

Any one seen one of those leaper things that you use for vertical. You know you get under it and jump while there is weight on the other side. Anyone know a workout or how much this thing works on vertical?

[DavetheDog]

Try a search. There have been a few threads on jumping before.

[vuduchyld]

You need to build strength in an EXPLOSIVE way, not just maximal strength. Train slow to be slow. Of course, all else being equal, if your legs are stronger, you will jump higher. I would work on some Olympic lifts...snatches and cleans might be the best. But I'd think you'd better have some experience lifting and/or some coaching before you would want to tackle that.

Everything below the line is an excerpt from this article: "Increasing Your Vertical Jump" by Josh Henkin.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/henkin14.htm
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If you would like a stronger example of the impact of the lifts let us look at the following. I would like to thank my colleague Chad Ikei for the following information. This excerpt is from his article "Pulling To Jump Higher."

"Nicu Vlad of Romania, World Record holder and Two time Olympic Medallist, came to the United States back in 1990, with now current U.S. National and Olympic Team Coach Dragomir Cioroslan, for a training camp. It was here at the U.S. Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs, that this 100-kg (220 lbs) weightlifter recorded a 42" vertical jump. Not to mention he was in weightlifting shoes, which weighs a lot more than tennis shoes and no formal warm-up. (Snatch 200 kg, Clean and Jerk 232.5 kg)

Wesley Barnett of Team USA, 3-time Olympian and Silver Medallist @ 1997 World Championships, have legs (especially hamstrings) and ass like a thoroughbred on him that most body builders would like to have. He has recorded vertical jumps of over 39" @ a height of 6'1" and 105 kg (231 lbs). I've even witnessed him dunking a basketball while jumping over my head, and I do mean literally jumping over my head which of course only stands a mere 5'2" but he straddle jumped directly over my head and dunked. (Snatch 175 kg, Clean and Jerk 220 kg)

Mark Henry, 1996 Olympic Team Member, now known as "Sexual Chocolate" on the WWF scene, had quite a vertical jump. At 6'3" tall he could dunk a basketball, not to mention that he could squat over 1000 lbs and deadlift over 900 lbs. Now dunking a basketball at 6'3" doesn't sound that hard, but take in to account that he weighed at that time 175 kg (385 lbs). Now that's impressive for a big guy. (Snatch 180 kg, Clean and Jerk 220 kg)

Shane Hamman, 2000 Olympic Team Member and current National Super heavyweight Champion, another big man weighing in @ 163 kg (358 lbs) but only at a height of 5'9" tall, can jump onto boxes @ a height over 42" high. Of course Shane was also known for his squatting ability of over 1000 lbs. (Snatch 195 kg, Clean and Jerk 230 kg)."

This is amazing considering the average vertical jump of a Division I men's basketball player is 28 inches!"

[vuduchyld]

Here's a cool program from Ian King, who I think puts together some great stuff.

http://www.testosterone.net/articles/154jump.html

As for your Leaper, yeah, they work pretty well if you use them correctly.

[Powerlifter16]

Originally posted by vuduchyld
You need to build strength in an EXPLOSIVE way, not just maximal strength. Train slow to be slow. Of course, all else being equal, if your legs are stronger, you will jump higher. I would work on some Olympic lifts...snatches and cleans might be the best. But I'd think you'd better have some experience lifting and/or some coaching before you would want to tackle that.

Everything below the line is an excerpt from this article: "Increasing Your Vertical Jump" by Josh Henkin.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/henkin14.htm
----------------------------------------------

If you would like a stronger example of the impact of the lifts let us look at the following. I would like to thank my colleague Chad Ikei for the following information. This excerpt is from his article "Pulling To Jump Higher."

"Nicu Vlad of Romania, World Record holder and Two time Olympic Medallist, came to the United States back in 1990, with now current U.S. National and Olympic Team Coach Dragomir Cioroslan, for a training camp. It was here at the U.S. Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs, that this 100-kg (220 lbs) weightlifter recorded a 42" vertical jump. Not to mention he was in weightlifting shoes, which weighs a lot more than tennis shoes and no formal warm-up. (Snatch 200 kg, Clean and Jerk 232.5 kg)

Wesley Barnett of Team USA, 3-time Olympian and Silver Medallist @ 1997 World Championships, have legs (especially hamstrings) and ass like a thoroughbred on him that most body builders would like to have. He has recorded vertical jumps of over 39" @ a height of 6'1" and 105 kg (231 lbs). I've even witnessed him dunking a basketball while jumping over my head, and I do mean literally jumping over my head which of course only stands a mere 5'2" but he straddle jumped directly over my head and dunked. (Snatch 175 kg, Clean and Jerk 220 kg)

Mark Henry, 1996 Olympic Team Member, now known as "Sexual Chocolate" on the WWF scene, had quite a vertical jump. At 6'3" tall he could dunk a basketball, not to mention that he could squat over 1000 lbs and deadlift over 900 lbs. Now dunking a basketball at 6'3" doesn't sound that hard, but take in to account that he weighed at that time 175 kg (385 lbs). Now that's impressive for a big guy. (Snatch 180 kg, Clean and Jerk 220 kg)

Shane Hamman, 2000 Olympic Team Member and current National Super heavyweight Champion, another big man weighing in @ 163 kg (358 lbs) but only at a height of 5'9" tall, can jump onto boxes @ a height over 42" high. Of course Shane was also known for his squatting ability of over 1000 lbs. (Snatch 195 kg, Clean and Jerk 230 kg)."

This is amazing considering the average vertical jump of a Division I men's basketball player is 28 inches!"

Henkins is a good guy. Taught me alot of what i know. His advice is sound.

lifter

[h2o_polo_goof]

I would definately recommmend some sort of plyometric program. The one mentioned before, http://www.testosterone.net/articles/154jump.html, looks solid. Olympic lifts are bound to help too. Good luck, and remember to eat right, and stretch to get all the possible gains out of the program. Good luck!

[CRHLHVK]

Instead of makin a new thread I'll do this.................Isnt jumping mostly technique.......i mean like gettin steps and stuff like that.

[vuduchyld]

There is certainly a lot of technique to it, especially when it comes to the vertical jump test that you see with those domino-lookin' things that you jump up and swipe at. I've heard that with some coaching, you could add 2" or 3" in just a few sessions.

But I DON'T think that those few inches translate into ANY added power on the basketball court or football field. It's like training for the SAT. You might get a better score, but it doesn't really make you any smarter.