What Guns Ya Got?!?!?

[KMMuscle24]

What guns you guys/girls all own and shoot?

[tranceaddict]

only in america

[AnimalOnly]

Berett M9
M16A2
M4 Carbine
AK74
.45 ACP

[AnimalOnly]

Oh yeah I've also got an old 1940's era Browning 9mm.

[mardydagymjunky]

a pair of 20 inchers ;)

[Snoopis]

I think there are already a couple threads like this in Miscellaneous, but I guess they're old and buried.


Century L1A1
Bushmaster 20" V-Match AR15
Remington 700VSF
ParaOrd Tac Four

[resurrected]

.45 HPF
.38 SW
.270 Remington
12 gauge sears with adjustable choke
20 gauge mossberg
.22 SW LR pistol
.22 revolver SR
A one man army.......:)

[usafspsac]

Sig Sauer P225
Glock 21
Ruger Mk II
Ruger Single Six in .22
American Derringer in 9 mm
Ithaca Model 37
DPMS DCM Match Rifle .223
Ruger Mini-14 (x2)
SKS (x2)
Remington 1100
Ruger 10/22
Remington Model 8, in .35 Remington
NEF Rifle in .223
Ruger #1 in .45-70
Grandpa's 12 ga., of which I've forgotten the model #
CVA .50 cal muzzleloader
A Springfield model 15 .22 rifle


And a couple of others that I've forgotten. Needless to say, the safe's full! LOL

[asclarch]

Ruger 10/22
New England single shot 12 ga
Remington .410
Remington Nylon .22
Winchester 1200 20 ga pump
old 16 ga single shot
Winchester model 94 30-30
Winchester Model 70 30-06
old double barrel from my great-grandfathers dad 12 ga.
CO2 pistol
2 pellet guns

[Colin Gilbert]

.17 caliber pellet gun... Fear me!!!


(I'm getting a Remington 700 and a shotgun when they scrap the long gun registry in Canada)

[mezazvers]

20 gauge shotgun
16 guage shotgun
12 gauge side-by-side shotgun
12 gauge remington pump
12 gauge remington semi-auto with rifled barrel "slug gun"
.22 caliber rifle shoots the shorter bullets semi auto
.22 caliber rifle shoots the longer bullets semi auto
.22 caliber rifle really tiny, its like a toy.
.8mm Mauzer rifle from WWII with swasitka still engraved in barrel

i dont have model names or numbers cuz other than the two remingtons, all those guns are very old to unknown makes.

Let the good times rollllllllllll

[Paul187]

Ive got a WASR-10 AK47 style assault rifle. I put all sorts of stuff on it like a rail system, folding stock, pistol grip, front vertical grip, ak74 style muzzle break, green laser sight... It was really fun customizing it and learning how the whole thing goes together. Getting the 7.62 x 39 ammo has been a pain in the ass as of late though. I think Im going to sell it and buy an AR-15 instead.

Also have a SW9ve 9mm pistol. It was nice to have as a first gun; however, I think this summer I am going to look for a compact .45 and get my concealed carry permit. I was thinking along the lines of a Glock 36, anyone have any suggestions?

[skinnyme]

My guns
Llama 9mm
Winchester 1300 12ga w/slug barrel (smoothbore)
New Frontier .50cal muzzleloader

Wife's guns:
Winchester '94 carbine .32 special (has the large loop lever)
H&R Plainsman .22 cal bolt action

Future guns:
AR15
Glock 26 or 27
Remington 700 or Winchester M70 in .308 or .270 (I can't decide, help appreciated).

[AirPower]

entirely way too many to list...

[Nonphixion90]

When I Turn 21...oooooooo mouth waters until the day

[SPAM]

To anyone who owns a C96 Mauser....you're my hero.

[Geno]

Too many to list from memory. 2 - 12 gun safes completely full and about a dozen or so laying around for defense or waiting for a new safe. I put my pocket change in a jar everyday (that's one dollar bills and below - I always use a five to pay and keep the change for toys) and buy a new gun whenever I have enough. I also get one or two every Christmas.

[Jeremy1]

What guns you guys/girls all own and shoot?
.22 pistol
.22 rifle
12 guage shotgun
30/30 rifle
.243 rifle
30-06 rifle

[Andvaranaut]

Remington 1187 w/breach on the left for me :cool:
.22 Winchester
.308 (something like that) British Military Rifle

I need more.

[ZR2Man]

I just got interested in guns recently and i got a .22 Ruger MKIII Hunter Edition for my 18th birthday I think its really nice

[utah997]

Here's a few of mine. Note the .50 Barrett :)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/utah997/P1010051.jpg

[skinnyme]

I noticed the drum mag and Knoxx Cop Stock on the shotgun. How good are both of those? How's the recoil with the stock?

[Paul187]

nice utah997

[utah997]

I noticed the drum mag and Knoxx Cop Stock on the shotgun. How good are both of those? How's the recoil with the stock?

The mag had a few problems, it was jamming every couple of rounds. Finally got it fixed. I've never had the stock extended while shooting. Usually it's just from the hip. Fun gun though...

[MiketheAnimal]

Custom-made 1911 in .45ACP (ArmsCorp slide and frame, all custom internals)

2 - M1 Garands (one Springfield Armory made 3/1942 one Winchester 10/1943)

More to come soon...

[Ali_Z]

Here's a few of mine. Note the .50 Barrett :)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/utah997/P1010051.jpg

Where do you buy gernades? Also, where did you buy the m203 launcher and the streetsweeper?

[bearlydavid]

Where do you buy gernades? Also, where did you buy the m203 launcher and the streetsweeper?
You cant buy gernades... Its probably either a fake one... Or its a real one that cant fire

Either way you cant buy gernades... I mean seriously... You thought he would buy gernades... Jeez

[takedown]

heres a pic of me and my ar-15 dont make fun,
http://www.myspace.com/cloverdend67

[BobbyZeus]

Here's a few of mine. Note the .50 Barrett :)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/utah997/P1010051.jpg

Nice Stable :)

[twisted03]

well heres safe no 1

3 ruger 10/22
remington .22 mag
winchester 20 gauge pump
7mm mauser
ak47 .308
old bretta 9mm
.300 weatherby mag (800 yds +:D)

[clive]

only in america
Ok, I’m from the UK and perhaps don't understand this but I find this kind of thing horrible, the thought of having a gun to me seems appalling!
We have very little gun crime over here and thank goodness a lot of that is do with not having a strong gun culture.
I love a lot of things American but I really don’t admire the gun thing, sorry!

[usafspsac]

Ok, I’m from the UK and perhaps don't understand this but I find this kind of thing horrible, the thought of having a gun to me seems appalling! We have very little gun crime over here and thank goodness a lot of that is do with not having a strong gun culture.
I love a lot of things American but I really don’t admire the gun thing, sorry!

Very little gun crime? Ever since the UK instituted a ban on most firearms, your crime rate has continued a steady climb since the late 90's.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gun/Story/0,2763,416575,00.html

And that article was just in 2000. I wish I was at home right now, because I have a hard drive full of stories and government data regarding firearms and crime rate data.

Why does the thought of having a gun seem appalling to you? Do you place so little value on your life and the lives of your loved ones that you're not willing to do what it takes to protect them from the violent criminal element in society? Protecting myself and my loved ones to the best of my ability is MY responsibility. No one elses. Will I ever have the need to defend myself or my family? Hopefully not. But I'd rather be prepared, than suffer the tragic loss of a loved one because I didn't have the means to keep them safe.

As a friend of mine once put it, "Another persons insecurities, or unfounded overreactions, are not my problem. So why should I be denied something, just because it makes another uncomfortable? It's just more touchy-feely happy crap."

Here in America, law enforcement has no legal obligation to protect any individual member of society. If you call the police here, and they don't respond, you can't sue them because they failed to protect you. Well, you can try, but you won't win. Law enforcement was not created to protect. It was created as a deterrent to crime, and as an investigative body after the fact.

You can Google the cases below. These are but a few where the courts have repeatedly decreed that law enforcement cannot be held liable for failing to protect a victim.

Warren v. District of Columbia
Riss v. City of New York
Lynch v. North Carolina Department of Justice

Your government, by removing the ability of the everyday citizen to protect themselves, have merely emboldened the criminal element of your society.

Even in a poll conducted by your BBC, the people spoke, and your government didn't like what it heard.

BBC elites confounded by their listeners

The BBC recently gave its listeners a chance to express their will, but did not want to hear the result. The great unwashed mass, who pay the license fees which pay the Beeb’s freight, were asked to suggest a piece of legislation to improve life in Britain, with the promise that an MP would then attempt to get it onto the statute books. Listeners to BBC 4’s Today program (the very same show which claimed that intelligence on Iraqi WMDs had been “sexed up”). Today, 26,000 votes later, the winning proposal was denounced as a “ludicrous, brutal, unworkable blood-stained piece of legislation” – by Stephen Pound, the very MP whose job it is to try to push it through Parliament.

The Independent reports that Mr Pound’s reaction was provoked by the news that the winner of Today’s “Listeners’ Law” poll was a plan to allow homeowners “to use any means to defend their home from intruders” – a prospect that could see householders free to kill burglars, without question.

“The people have spoken,” the Labour MP replied to the programme, ”... the bastards.”

Having recovered his composure, Mr Pound told The Independent: “We are going to have to re-evaluate the listenership of Radio 4. I would have expected this result if there had been a poll in The Sun. Do we really want a law that says you can slaughter anyone who climbs in your window?”

The Sun is a Murdoch-owned tabloid noted for photos of bare-breasted women and nationalistic support of Britain’s participation in Operation Iraqi Freedom.

MP Pound’s disdain for popular opinion is typical of not only British, but Western European elites, who consider themselves, and the nations whose public policies they control, to be vastly superior to the uncivilized Yanks, who carry guns and execute vicious criminals. Public opinion polls show that a majority of Britons favor capital punishment, but there is virtually no chance it will be re-introduced to Britain anytime soon.

Segments of the British public have been outraged over the jailing of Norfolk farmer Tony Martin, who shot a burglar who had broken into his house. In all probability, this outraged fuelled the votes which selected resulted in victory for the self-defense (or ‘vigilante’) law which won the BBC poll.

MP Pound plans cursory introduction of the bill which he promised, but will only go through the motions. He called it “the sort of idea somebody comes up with in a bar on a Saturday night between ‘string ‘em all up’ and ‘send ‘em all all home’”.

[Chipman]

Ok, I’m from the UK and perhaps don't understand this but I find this kind of thing horrible, the thought of having a gun to me seems appalling!
We have very little gun crime over here and thank goodness a lot of that is do with not having a strong gun culture.
I love a lot of things American but I really don’t admire the gun thing, sorry!

Good for you, you have had your say, now if you don't like what we stand for then stay out of this section and you won't be appalled the last thing I would want to do to you is appall you....Isn't that easy.

[clive]

Good for you, you have had your say, now if you don't like what we stand for then stay out of this section and you won't be appalled the last thing I would want to do to you is appall you....Isn't that easy.
I’m not going to get all up tight about it, it’s not in my nature. But I thought I would voice my views on the subject to show that not everyone thinks guns are glamorous and desirable.
This is after all a forum and open to discussion!

[Chipman]

Nice Stable :)

Damn, what terrorist organization do you belong to?

[Chipman]

I’m not going to get all up tight about it, it’s not in my nature. But I thought I would voice my views on the subject to show that not everyone thinks guns are glamorous and desirable.
This is after all a forum and open to discussion!

Okay then we are cool, now I am off to the range to break in a virgin 357 model 586 S&W wheel gun. I can't say this little baby is glamorous but she certainly is desirable..Don't worry sweetie daddy is gonna take it easy the first time, it won't hurt at all, in fact I am only gonna use these itty bitty 38's the first time..
"What, of course I will oil you up real good the first time..you'll see it will be fun."

[resurrected]

I’m not going to get all up tight about it, it’s not in my nature. But I thought I would voice my views on the subject to show that not everyone thinks guns are glamorous and desirable.
This is after all a forum and open to discussion!
Here is the problem in the UK they do not allow guns, so you are brought up beleiving they are dangerous and wrong to own. The government did what they intended to do to you.
If you were allowed to own one and moved into America, I bet you would be one to own a fricking arsenal. You would eventually see the UK government was blindsiding you to keep you in order and under control.

Oh and I am not anti Uk. My family came over from there.

[BobbyZeus]

Damn, what terrorist organization do you belong to?

Man, u should see my complete stable, I think you enjoy seeing it :)

[Chipman]

Man, u should see my complete stable, I think you enjoy seeing it :)

Just hope no one ever breaks into the stable and replaces them with Airsofts boy wouldn't that be something..

[BobbyZeus]

Just hope no one ever breaks into the stable and replaces them with Airsofts boy wouldn't that be something..

Now, why would anyone do that?

[Chipman]

Now, why would anyone do that?

I was kidding there was something in the local paper, I am looking for it in the archives, about this old man who had a well stocked gun closet long guns as well as handguns. Anyway his son needed money so he replaced most of the guns with replicas some of them were just daisy handgun replicas..
It took someone else to finally figure out the guns were fake the old man never touched them..just a weird story.

[guest89]

I have a Ruger 30-06, a Marlin lever action 30-30 a Remington .22 rifle. Colt .22 pistol, remington and mossberg shotguns .20ga and .12ga, a .410 H&R and a Marlin .22Mag and another Marlin .22


Not bad for my age (just turned 19).

Im building a M4 soon, gonna buying the parts and gonna put it together. After I complete that im going to build a AK. And after that im gonna save for handguns, whats on my list is a good 1911, a sig, and maybe a glock.



As for people not understand why I would want these guns you wanna know why? Because I CAN have them.

Besides that I enjoy hunting and shooting.


Utah, very nice collection. Im guessing thats a flare launcher right? Is it fun or just for looks? Also, nice .50 I'd like to shoot one of those :D.

[clive]

Here is the problem in the UK they do not allow guns, so you are brought up beleiving they are dangerous and wrong to own. The government did what they intended to do to you.
If you were allowed to own one and moved into America, I bet you would be one to own a fricking arsenal. You would eventually see the UK government was blindsiding you to keep you in order and under control.

Oh and I am not anti Uk. My family came over from there.
Guns are allowed in the UK but it just isn’t as commonplace as it is in the USA, laws are just tighter. I for one am glad of this as I think our society is a less threatening and violent place for it.
Of cause guns are safe in the right hands but with so many of them about they are bound to fall into the wrong ones. This might be hardened criminals the mentally unstable or a child mimicking what it sees on the TV.

I did some research-
USA- 28,874 people were killed in fire armed-related deaths In 1999
UK- just 81 were killed in 2005

I couldn’t find the number killed in the USA for 2005 but this example just shows the vast difference in numbers.
No doubt your gun culture is irreversible now with such a strong gun lobby. But I’m glad we are not going down the same road here in the UK, I don't think we've got it wrong!

[ndagym2006]

I did some research-
USA- 28,874 people were killed in fire armed-related deaths In 1999
UK- just 81 were killed in 2005

I tied to find the population difference between the US and the UK.
These may be wrong. The US has around 300 million people and the UK has around 60 million. So if the UK had as big as a population, they would of had +400 killed in 2005. I'm not sure if the numbers are right or not.
Anywho, I wish the US had tougher gun laws. Anyone can see the obvious difference between the US and UK when it comes to armed related deaths.
When it comes to gun violence, the UK is obviously a safer place to live.

[resurrected]

I don't agree. if we had tighter gun laws then the common citizens would not be able to protect themselves and the criminals would have the upper hand. You can cite as many studies as you wish. But I live here and own a gun I know the cold hard facts.
I was attacked and beaten many times by punks in the wrong neighborhood. but since i carry i have not had one occurence.
The crime here has dropped massively because the criminals know they cannot be tolerated any longer and I will shoot to kill if I have to. A few years back before i bought the house I am in now, a guy robbed and shot an elderly couple 5 places down. Before that a woman was raped at gun point. Listen up pal. I have a permit my wife has a permit and she is taught to shoot the ass if he comes into my house.

Oh and i a few wounds form being shot at by punks here as well. I am an older person who has a company that takes him into some ****ty areas.

[usafspsac]

Anywho, I wish the US had tougher gun laws. Anyone can see the obvious difference between the US and UK when it comes to armed related deaths.
When it comes to gun violence, the UK is obviously a safer place to live.

New York City, Chicago, Washington D.C., Los Angeles

What do they all have in common? They all have the most restrictive firearms laws, yet they consistently have the highest murder rates. The most recent complete year for numbers is 2004. You can peruse the numbers here;

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/offense_tabulations/table_08.html

This breaks down murders by weapon. However, it is incomplete as the District of Columbia is not included in the table;

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/offense_tabulations/table_20-22.html

In 2004, there were 14121 murders in the United States, by all manner of weapons. In a population of close to 300 million, that comes out to less than .0005 %

The death of an innocent is tragic in every case. But by denying law-abiding citizens the ability to protect themselves from the criminal element, you're only going to increase the death toll. I'd rather see the number of dead criminals rise, and not the number of innocent citizens.

[Chipman]

Guns are allowed in the UK but it just isn’t as commonplace as it is in the USA, laws are just tighter. I for one am glad of this as I think our society is a less threatening and violent place for it.
Of cause guns are safe in the right hands but with so many of them about they are bound to fall into the wrong ones. This might be hardened criminals the mentally unstable or a child mimicking what it sees on the TV.

I did some research-
USA- 28,874 people were killed in fire armed-related deaths In 1999
UK- just 81 were killed in 2005

I couldn’t find the number killed in the USA for 2005 but this example just shows the vast difference in numbers.

No doubt your gun culture is irreversible now with such a strong gun lobby. But I’m glad we are not going down the same road here in the UK, I don't think we've got it wrong!

You are fudging clive don't make me look up those nasty little British figures where gangs of Brits just break into homes and torture and rape the people living there. It is the fad over there and I have friends from the UK to back me up..

Yep, no guns involved just shades of clockwork orange..You have just as much crime as we do it's just that you report it different. It would go down if the criminals didn't know if the houses they want to visit had guns a waiting..

[Snoopis]

Come on guys, please leave the politics to the politics forum. EVERY time someone starts a thread about guns, or guns come up in the conversation, some gun-hater has to come in and derail our thread. Just ignore them. If they want to be handed their arses in a debate, they can start one in the politics forum. ;) Or just read any already existing debate on the subject, again in the politics forum.

[AnimalOnly]

Come on guys, please leave the politics to the politics forum. EVERY time someone starts a thread about guns, or guns come up in the conversation, some gun-hater has to come in and derail our thread. Just ignore them. If they want to be handed their arses in a debate, they can start one in the politics forum. ;) Or just read any already existing debate on the subject, again in the politics forum.

Seriously.

Guns, knives, and explosives kick ass and we're not gunna stop buying them. After all, besides sports, they (and outdoor rec) are about the only thing left for men to do in civilian society, everything else is talored towards women.

[Chipman]

Seriously.

Guns, knives, and explosives kick ass and we're not gunna stop buying them. After all, besides sports, they (and outdoor rec) are about the only thing left for men to do in civilian society, everything else is talored towards women.

Snoopsis and Animal I know you are right but it's just that they lie and when they figure out that they can't win they crawl back under the rock..

They call it incrementalism I call it cowardice.

[clive]

I don't agree. if we had tighter gun laws then the common citizens would not be able to protect themselves and the criminals would have the upper hand. You can cite as many studies as you wish. But I live here and own a gun I know the cold hard facts.
I was attacked and beaten many times by punks in the wrong neighborhood. but since i carry i have not had one occurence.
The crime here has dropped massively because the criminals know they cannot be tolerated any longer and I will shoot to kill if I have to. A few years back before i bought the house I am in now, a guy robbed and shot an elderly couple 5 places down. Before that a woman was raped at gun point. Listen up pal. I have a permit my wife has a permit and she is taught to shoot the ass if he comes into my house.

Oh and i a few wounds form being shot at by punks here as well. I am an older person who has a company that takes him into some ****ty areas.
This is the precise point I’ve been trying to make, if you need to have guns to protect yourself surly that is very sad thing indeed.
If your gun laws had been tightened up and less importance put on firearms ownership I think you would be living in a much less threatening society now.
Once guns are introduced in to society the stakes are immediately raised and everything escalates.
If ownership was as relaxed over here as in the USA I’m sure it would be a very different story. And the UK would start to see a rise in death related firearm crimes.
I’m 46 and have personally never known anyone owning a gun, or killed by one, and I feel that really adds to the quality of life living in the UK.
Sorry to blight this thread but I feel that the dark side if gun ownership needs to de addressed!

[Snoopis]

If your gun laws had been tightened up and less importance put on firearms ownership I think you would be living in a much less threatening society now.
Once guns are introduced in to society the stakes are immediately raised and everything escalates.
If ownership was as relaxed over here as in the USA I’m sure it would be a very different story. And the UK would start to see a rise in death related firearm crimes.
And you might be right, but you can't turn back the clock. You're not going to uninvent guns, or make them disappear from the US. Even in the UK where gun laws are strict, there is increasing number of them being used in crime. To disarm law abiding Americans would leave only criminals with guns... and they have a lot! That's not a good situation. Anyway, something like 70% of suspected murderers have long criminal history, and more than half of murder victims have criminal history of their own. A large number, I think between 2/3 and 3/4, of people of people sent to prison for felonies were already incarcerated and released. If we would just lock people up and keep them there, crime would be minimal.

And you're completely missing the fact that the main reason we have them is prevention of tyranny. Protection from the common criminal is just an additional benefit.



I’m 46 and have personally never known anyone owning a gun, or killed by one, and I feel that really adds to the quality of life living in the UK.


I replied to an almost identical statement in another thread on another forum, so to save myself some typing, I'll just C&P the following:

Some of it just seems to be a cultural difference in how we view guns. You mention your limited exposure to guns- you didn't see one of them in 22 years in England, and you probably haven't seen many since then. You've probably seen gangsters and bank robbers use them on tv(or maybe some people with small penis ), or seen a few isolated incidents on the news.

This is contrary to many Americans. My grandfather always had a few rifles and a handgun(which he carried everywhere, even at my sister's wedding, and nobody ever knew, including myself until later), my uncles had rifles, my dad has a bow but no firearms. My mom is considering getting a handgun. I remember when I was probably 8 or 9 years old, going to visit my grandparents, and seeing my cousin(same age as myself) going rabbit hunting with my uncle and my grandfather. The first time I fired a gun was with my gandfather at the age of 12 or 13.
In college, a few roommates and friends had handguns, shotguns, and rifles. After working in the lab for a few hours on whatever project we happened to be working on, we'd run by the gun shop, get some ear plugs and a little ammo, drive out into the desert with a bunch of empty wine/beer bottles or some sporting clays and spend a couple hours shooting.
College is over, and I'm in the real world now. Last summer I overheard two guys at work talking about a shooting range in the area, so I start talking with them... next thing you know, it's Sunday afternoon and while most people are getting drunk watching Nascar, I'm at the range with a few friends, shooting their .50cal rifles and a couple "assault weapons." We bring a cooler with some snacks and gatorade, and have a good time. Once the sun starts to set, we pack everything up, and fire up the grill, have some steaks or bratwurst, and call it a day.

It's just normal activity, with normal people. None of these people are any different than the average American. Engineers, pilots, factory workers, former military, family members, etc. This is the rule, not the exception. The exception is the rare examples you see on tv.

It's like people from other places see just murderers, thugs, and deranged lunatics with guns. They can't possibly imagine their neighbor, or their son or daughter's math teacher, or the guy in the cubicle next to you at work owning a gun. They're not criminals, they don't have or need guns.

Most Americans don't see it like that at all. Normal people have guns. Our neighbors don't scare us. Our teachers don't scare us. My co-workers don't scare me. So why should I worry if they own guns? The only people that scare me are the people who will get guns regardless of any gun control laws.

But say your neighbor had a gun... would that scare you? What if your son or daughter's math teacher spent his sunday afternoon blasting holes in paper targets with his .45... would that scare you?

[rambone]

You cant buy gernades... Its probably either a fake one... Or its a real one that cant fire

Either way you cant buy gernades... I mean seriously... You thought he would buy gernades... Jeez

actually yeah you can buy grenades, very easily in Arizona.

[Hartski]

actually yeah you can buy grenades, very easily in Arizona.

Not legally.

Smoke grenades maybe, nut not fragmentation, or WP grenades.

[rambone]

Not legally.

Smoke grenades maybe, nut not fragmentation, or WP grenades.

you can purchase pineapples legally

[Hartski]

you can purchase pineapples legally

Sorry, but I'd need to see some proof of that. Unless you have a Class III liscense which lets you buy just about anything, live grenades should be very illegal.

[utah997]

Sorry, but I'd need to see some proof of that. Unless you have a Class III liscense which lets you buy just about anything, live grenades should be very illegal.

That is correct. Grenades themselves are considered by the ATF to be a "Deadly Device" in the 40mm launcher on the AR 15, I have some harmless "bird pops" that I can shoot, as well as smoke grenades. It actually IS fully functional, you just can't buy the rounds.

Should have my class III permit in July. Then I can get the good stuff.

[GREENFEATHER]

That is correct. Grenades themselves are considered by the ATF to be a "Deadly Device" in the 40mm launcher on the AR 15, I have some harmless "bird pops" that I can shoot, as well as smoke grenades. It actually IS fully functional, you just can't buy the rounds.

Should have my class III permit in July. Then I can get the good stuff.

Actually they are considered a Destructive Device subject to a $200 tax on EACH serial numbered piece, be it a grenade or .55 calibre Boys Anti-Tank rifle or 155 mm howitzer. Each piece is taxed $200 the only exception to this is those classified as AOW, Any Other Weapon. These include pistol grip shotguns with barrels less than 16", pen guns, cane guns or camera guns. Anything that doesn't look like a gun that fires a round. The pistol grip shotguns can NEVER have had a buttstock fitted to them..

If you're talking about the federal Class3 EIN, it's cool. There really is NO FEDERAL PERMITS REQUIRED FOR THE OWNERSHIP OF TITLE 2 WEAPONS!! Your state may require it, but the federales just tax the **** out of it, lol!! The last year I help my Type 10 manufacturing license it cost me $10,000.

[vincenthk]

http://handguns.g00net.org/Beretta/PicB_3032-tomcat.jpg

my new CC right there I love it.

plus the rest of the collection

10/22 with this sweet little AK47 lookalike mod kit it's fun as hell
VZ-58S
Mossberg 590
Remington 870
Remington 700 in .243
K98 in great condition one of my favourites
Mini-14
Ruger MkII
Beretta Stampede in .44
Walther P99 9mm

That's the collection thus far.

[KRANE]

"...You homosapiens and your guns..." Just thought I'd throw that in as a light note. :D
But on a more serious note, the only guns I own are the ones you can flex! Your right Clive, American have way too many guns. And we carry them around like they're a badge of honor. People talk about protecting yourself? From what? I grew up in one of the worst neighborhoods in my city, and I've never had to carry a gun.
Actually, I'm not totally against guns, I think there okay, in the home or for sports which I guess is the intent here? It's just the people that feel the need to carry around hand guns with the unrealistic belief that it makes them SAFER?

[vincenthk]

"You homosapiens and your guns" Just thought I'd throw that in as a light note. :D
But on a more serious note, the only guns I own are the ones you can flex! Your right Clive, American have way too many guns. And we carry them around like they're a badge of honor. People talk about protecting yourself? From what? I grew up in one of the worst neighborhoods in my city, and I've never had to carry a gun.
Actually, I'm not totally against guns, I think there okay, in the home or for sports which I guess is the intent here? It's just the people that feel the need to carry around hand guns with the unrealistic belief that it makes them SAFER!

well if we could stop the production of guns that would be ideal, but it's impossible now. I think that more guns in the hands of responsible people is a good thing. You say you grew up in a rough neighbourhood and "never had to carry a gun". Well, you might have a different view of that if you were ever in a situation where say a couple guys with knives came up to you and wanted to stab you to death and take your money. It's definitely not necessary, but I think it's kinda like an insurance policy. And it can also be helpful for others. If 50% of people walking around had CCW permits do you think that a crook might think twice about robbing someone knowing there's a 1/2 chance they might be armed?

I mostly enjoy shooting for the sport. But I figure, why not carry a gun when the law allows me to? Guys criticize me because if you look above, I carry a little "girl" gun lol. They say oh .32 isn't going to have the stopping power etc. etc. I know that, but I just play by the percentages. I don't live in a particularly bad area, I know the chance that I will ever have to draw my gun in a public situation is very small, and with that, I would bet that an overwhelming majority of the time, the very fact that I am armed alone would be enough to resolve the situation. Furthermore, if I ever had to shoot someone, even though .32 doesn't have the stopping power of a 10mm or .45 I'm pretty sure a couple of those in the chest is enough to make anyone think twice. In the situation where it's some guy high on PCP and I can empty my entire 7 rnd's into him and it doesn't stop him then well I guess I'm screwed lol, but my fear of that is less than having to lug around a full sized pistol, having something I can have on me and barely notice she's there is better.
I just don't understand how you see responsible citizens carrying a pistol as a bad thing.

[Clide Whit]

http://www.cyberium.net/imagine/S/weapons/blood_gun.jpg

[KRANE]

I just don't understand how you see responsible citizens carrying a pistol as a bad thing.Because when responsible citizens have carry guns, they don't think first, they react. Once, some time ago, I was in an altercation with someone (I knew him). To make a long story short, I was hurt badly. There was blood everywhere--my blood--and all I thought I was going to die! All I could feel and think was blinding rage, all I could think was that this person had killed me. If I had had a gun at that instant, I would not merely have shot him, I would have emptied the gun into him. Well it turned out that dispite the blood, I wasn't going to die (although it did hurt like hell) Thing is, I consider myself not only responsible, but a pacifist, and yet I realize what I could have or would have done--if I would have had a gun

[AnimalOnly]

Because when responsible citizens have carry guns, they don't think first, they react. Once, some time ago, I was in an altercation with someone (I knew him). To make a long story short, I was hurt badly. There was blood everywhere--my blood--and all I thought I was going to die! All I could feel and think was blinding rage, all I could think was that this person had killed me. If I had had a gun at that instant, I would not merely have shot him, I would have emptied the gun into him. Well it turned out that dispite the blood, I wasn't going to die (although it did hurt like hell) Thing is, I consider myself not only responsible, but a pacifist, and yet I realize what I could have or would have done--if I would have had a gun

Your life was being seriously threatened, bottom line. You would have had the right to shoot the attacker, had you been armed. And as far as you knew, you were going to die. Any slight deviation in the strikes of the attacker could have been lethal, it's just logical that you would seize the initiative by eliminating the attacker.

One key rule in military close combat: If deadly force is used against you, you should respond with deadly force.

It applies to civilians as well.

[vincenthk]

Because when responsible citizens have carry guns, they don't think first, they react. Once, some time ago, I was in an altercation with someone (I knew him). To make a long story short, I was hurt badly. There was blood everywhere--my blood--and all I thought I was going to die! All I could feel and think was blinding rage, all I could think was that this person had killed me. If I had had a gun at that instant, I would not merely have shot him, I would have emptied the gun into him. Well it turned out that dispite the blood, I wasn't going to die (although it did hurt like hell) Thing is, I consider myself not only responsible, but a pacifist, and yet I realize what I could have or would have done--if I would have had a gun

I think that's not good logic, if you've got a short temper that's your problem. I'm only going to take out my gun if someone is putting me in a position where my life is threatened. If some drunk guy coming out of the bar comes and tries to fight me while I'm out at the store or something late at night and I'm armed I'm not going to take out my pistol and shoot him lol. Even if I get mad I know better than that, if he throws a beer bottle and it smashes in my face cutting me I might go drop him with a good punch if I'm really angry but more than likely I'll call the police on my cell phone. I'm not going to take out my gun and shoot him to death. If someone jumps me with a baseball bat and is beating me to death then I'd shoot him, it's all about judgement. And the bottom line is, I'd rather make an error in judgement resulting in my attacker getting badly wounded or killed than err on the side of caution and have that result in my own death or severe wounding.

If someone is beating you to the point where you have blood coming out everywhere and you don't think you can realistically respond, you have the right to respond with the force necessary to repel the attacker.

[BigTruckGuy3500]

.270 Winslow arms Bolt
.22 remington semi
.22 browning bolt
9mm S&W

AnimalOnly - when you say m16A2 are you referring to yours in the military? M16s are so nice and i'd love to have one. I know the AR15 is close to it, but i've only shot an m16 and enjoyed it much. Is there any way to get an actual m16?

I'd like to add something fun to shoot (semi-cheap bullets, still accurate, something I don't have to treat like a baby because of a beautiful wood finish) to my guns, but i'm not sure what exactly. Anyone have suggestions?

[klax410]

Weatherby .243
2 Winchester .12 SG's
Winchester .270 Model 70

[AnimalOnly]

AnimalOnly - when you say m16A2 are you referring to yours in the military? M16s are so nice and i'd love to have one. I know the AR15 is close to it, but i've only shot an m16 and enjoyed it much. Is there any way to get an actual m16?


Yeah. I got mine from the local Army armory when I turned my a4 in. My buddy is the base commander up there, so that's why I was able to get it. And apparently a private had lost the bolt cam pin and retaining pin during a drill. So I just took it home and replaced them :D

And yeah M16's are way better than AR15's, that 3 round burst makes a big difference!
But uh, I really don't know how a civilian would go about getting an M16.... Sorry

[notorius1]

But uh, I really don't know how a civilian would go about getting an M16.... Sorry



I believe you have to have a class III license.

[toycrow]

Browning A-Bolt II Medallion 7 Mag
Winchester Black Shadow Pump 12 Guage
Mossberg 935 Semi-Auto 12 Guage
Hi-Point 9mm
Cobray MAC-11

[Sockomalo]

check this gun out http://www.wimp.com/glock/

[King Crush]

Ruger 10/22
Remington bolt action .22
Marlin 3O/3O
Remington model 700 .300 Ultra Mag [BAD ASS]
Mosberg 12 gauge can shoot up to 3 1/2'' mags


Thats about it for now, but I'm planing to get more GUNZ!

The .300 Ultra Mag out performs any .300- Winchester, and Wetherby!

ULTRA MAGS RULE!!

[bbowen32006]

SPRINGFEILD XD-40
i love it. looks good shoots good......
anyone else have an xd model?
how do you like it?

http://usera.imagecave.com/Grifter/gunandclips-copy.jpg

looks just like this but i also have a high cap. mag that holds 12, with one in the chamber

[Snoopis]

SPRINGFEILD XD-40
i love it. looks good shoots good......
anyone else have an xd model?
how do you like it?

http://usera.imagecave.com/Grifter/gunandclips-copy.jpg

looks just like this but i also have a high cap. mag that holds 12, with one in the chamber

I picked up an XD45 weekend before last. The more I handle it and the more I look at it, the more I think I'm really gonna like this thing! But I haven't had a chance to shoot yet. I almost went Sunday but had a few other things to do first and then just got kinda lazy- which was a good thing because the range's roof collapsed that day from pooling rain water! A couple guys got some cuts and bruises, but nothing too serious I guess. Glad I wasn't there though.