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beatphats

11-11-2002, 09:10 PM

Well, the best of all time is Big Pun... and not because he shares the same real name like me, and not because he's from the Bronx like me, and not because he's Puerto Rican like me...

1. Big Pun - One of the most underrated rappers. Not even Eminem gives him props in "'Till I collapse". Eminem actually mentions Kurupt on his "best" list which is the only thing that pissed my off about Eminem. If you hear all the songs where Big Pun rhymes with other rappers, he always outshined all of them. Listen to "John Blaze," "Oh no (remix)" "Horse & Carriage (remix)" "fantastic Four" "Banned from TV" etc... and the best duo song of all time, "Deep Cover Twinz '98." Not even Jada and Styles comes close to what Joe and Pun did on that song. If you could find a better song, Pun will still sh sh shi shi **** on you....

2. Eminem - He's probably one of the smartest rap artists out there today. Everyone today is following a formula to make hits such as get The Neptunes to do a beat for you, mention some hot spot in NYC, rock some Sean John and pimp some music videos hoes in a Hype Williams video, and you got yourself a hit. I admit Eminem has soldout on his all his first singles, but even then his videos are orginal and creative, but the others songs on the album, are nothing like the singles. In fact, the most original songs i've ever heard came from Eminem. "Guilty Conscience," "Stan" and "Hallie's Song" ('cause probably Ol'Dirty Bastard would dare sing on a song). But what people like about Eminem and probably don't even know it, it's that you could relate to alot of his songs. One last thing about eminem as a lyrists is that, he rhymes to his beats. even Em himself acknowlegde that his albums were wack, 'cause he rhymes off beat. But he almost perfected that flaw now. And on 8 mile, you could see how Eminem could do as battle freestylist. Well, that's enough of Em. I could go on, but....next.

3. The Notorious B.I.G. - I think the only reason he's up here is that no one has ever came out with a better CD, in life after death, album than Biggie, PERIOD!. The Source should have retired the Five Mics section, long ago, since giving BIG his 5 mics. Jay-Z's Blueprint, Nas Stillmatic, Outkast Aquemini, and Scarface last joint, even though classics, should all have gotta 4 1/2, 'cause they're still not even on par BIG's album.

Here's my rest...

4. Rakim - The first real lyrist to use metaphor, world play, etc. Never really listen to old school stuff as hardcore as I do today, so I don't can't go in depth about his unpopular songs. But from his greatest hits, alot a rappers still can't flow like him. And he's a pineer of lyrical rap, rappers supposed to bite his style and make it better. But then again, you can't make better what's already perfect.

5. Tupac - He wasn't a good lyrists, but he was the realest mothaflow in rap. I don't think nobody, besides TuPac would have the balls to do songs such as "Keep Ya Head Up", and "Brenda's Got a Baby" or "Changes." Unfortunately, the political side of rap died with Tupac. Public Ememy held it down for the ol' school, but Tupac was giving it creditbility for the new school.

6. Nas - He paints a picture of emotions with ghetto storylines. He does the same thing like Tupac, but states problems in society through storylines.

7. KRS-1 - Here's another one I could write a book on, but as of today, it's unfortunate, that he has no respect from a new generation rap fans. He's really gone against the grain on his new album, but he does too too much preaching nowadays. (He actually did speech at my school a few years ago.) But all you ol' schoolers know he could hang with the best of 'em, even today, if we had battle freestyles.

8. Redman - Another one with longivity. One thing that redman has has always epitomize was being STRAIGHT GHETTO! To all ya suburban people, if you wanna know how negroids from the hood have fun, just listen to Reggie Noble.

thegamecdr

11-11-2002, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by beatphats

3. The Notorious B.I.G. - I think the only reason he's up here is that no one has ever came out with a better CD, in life after death, album than Biggie, PERIOD!. The Source should have retired the Five Mics section, long ago, since giving BIG his 5 mics. Jay-Z's Blueprint, Nas Stillmatic, Outkast Aquemini, and Scarface last joint, even though classics, should all have gotta 4 1/2, 'cause they're still not even on par BIG's album.

Big bump on Biggie. I couldn't even start to count how many times I've played his Life after Death cd. "Get off the Notorious P-E-N-I-S before I squeeze and bust", one of my favorite all time lines.

Xtreme4Life

11-11-2002, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by thegamecdr
Big bump on Biggie. I couldn't even start to count how many times I've played his Life after Death cd. "Get off the Notorious P-E-N-I-S before I squeeze and bust", one of my favorite all time lines.

Biggies definitely near the top of my list......Goin Back To Cali:

You're just mad cause I got my dicked sucked
and my balls licked, forfeit, the game is mine
I'm gonna spell my name one more time, check it
It's the N-O, T-O, R-I-O, U-S you just lay down slow
Recognize the real Don when Juan
Sippin on booze in the house of blues

Hell yeah. That first cut on disk two with Bone is pretty ****in sick too.

FATHER FLEX

11-11-2002, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by beatphats
Well, the best of all time is Big Pun... and not because he shares the same real name like me, and not because he's from the Bronx like me, and not because he's Puerto Rican like me...

1. Big Pun - One of the most underrated rappers. Not even Eminem gives him props in "'Till I collapse". Eminem actually mentions Kurupt on his "best" list which is the only thing that pissed my off about Eminem. If you hear all the songs where Big Pun rhymes with other rappers, he always outshined all of them. Listen to "John Blaze," "Oh no (remix)" "Horse & Carriage (remix)" "fantastic Four" "Banned from TV" etc... and the best duo song of all time, "Deep Cover Twinz '98." Not even Jada and Styles comes close to what Joe and Pun did on that song. If you could find a better song, Pun will still sh sh shi shi **** on you....

2. Eminem - He's probably one of the smartest rap artists out there today. Everyone today is following a formula to make hits such as get The Neptunes to do a beat for you, mention some hot spot in NYC, rock some Sean John and pimp some music videos hoes in a Hype Williams video, and you got yourself a hit. I admit Eminem has soldout on his all his first singles, but even then his videos are orginal and creative, but the others songs on the album, are nothing like the singles. In fact, the most original songs i've ever heard came from Eminem. "Guilty Conscience," "Stan" and "Hallie's Song" ('cause probably Ol'Dirty Bastard would dare sing on a song). But what people like about Eminem and probably don't even know it, it's that you could relate to alot of his songs. One last thing about eminem as a lyrists is that, he rhymes to his beats. even Em himself acknowlegde that his albums were wack, 'cause he rhymes off beat. But he almost perfected that flaw now. And on 8 mile, you could see how Eminem could do as battle freestylist. Well, that's enough of Em. I could go on, but....next.

3. The Notorious B.I.G. - I think the only reason he's up here is that no one has ever came out with a better CD, in life after death, album than Biggie, PERIOD!. The Source should have retired the Five Mics section, long ago, since giving BIG his 5 mics. Jay-Z's Blueprint, Nas Stillmatic, Outkast Aquemini, and Scarface last joint, even though classics, should all have gotta 4 1/2, 'cause they're still not even on par BIG's album.

Here's my rest...

4. Rakim - The first real lyrist to use metaphor, world play, etc. Never really listen to old school stuff as hardcore as I do today, so I don't can't go in depth about his unpopular songs. But from his greatest hits, alot a rappers still can't flow like him. And he's a pineer of lyrical rap, rappers supposed to bite his style and make it better. But then again, you can't make better what's already perfect.

5. Tupac - He wasn't a good lyrists, but he was the realest mothaflow in rap. I don't think nobody, besides TuPac would have the balls to do songs such as "Keep Ya Head Up", and "Brenda's Got a Baby" or "Changes." Unfortunately, the political side of rap died with Tupac. Public Ememy held it down for the ol' school, but Tupac was giving it creditbility for the new school.

6. Nas - He paints a picture of emotions with ghetto storylines. He does the same thing like Tupac, but states problems in society through storylines.

7. KRS-1 - Here's another one I could write a book on, but as of today, it's unfortunate, that he has no respect from a new generation rap fans. He's really gone against the grain on his new album, but he does too too much preaching nowadays. (He actually did speech at my school a few years ago.) But all you ol' schoolers know he could hang with the best of 'em, even today, if we had battle freestyles.

8. Redman - Another one with longivity. One thing that redman has has always epitomize was being STRAIGHT GHETTO! To all ya suburban people, if you wanna know how negroids from the hood have fun, just listen to Reggie Noble.

Good list and you broke it down real well, but I think biggie should be number one because if he was still alive his flow would have changed. He would have still been the smoothest man to ever hold a mic. That would put eminem at number two, and Big Pun at three. At least that's how I see it.

As for KRS-1 It's a damn shame that people don't know what he did for rap. I am just waiting for someone to put up Nelly to prove my point.

I think Tupac had some of the best lyrics, in that he would say things that most other rappers can't, and the man could probably write a book, and need know one to correct his grammar since he was a very educated man. His ability as orator was amazing to, his voice was a drill.

Evidence

11-11-2002, 10:35 PM

i agree with beatphats' list and 2rude4myowngood's list but 'i got a list, heres the order of my list that its in, it goes':

1. Notorious BIG (rip)

2. Big L (rip)

3. Big Pun (rip)

4. Ras Kass

5.eminem

6. Canibus

7. ikon( a.k.a. the verbal hologram, a.k.a. vinnie paz) / (just download some 'jedi mind tricks' songs and you'll know what im talkin about)

8. virtuoso

9. Rakim

10. nas

these arent actually in exact order but you catch my drift.

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-11-2002, 11:21 PM

MadChild

11-11-2002, 11:40 PM

hey guyz...what about P. Diddy?

Just kidding...seriously, I don't wanna get flamed and then you'll get pissed at me for getting banned.

Licketysplit

11-12-2002, 01:49 AM

eminem is da man!

mattabull

11-12-2002, 04:22 AM

maybe im from the old school, but id have to mention Ice Cube.

ZachG_85

11-12-2002, 04:24 AM

Tupac

Biggie

BONE - Jeebus I'm surprised no one mentioned these guys. They had some of the most unorthodox rhythms and rhyme schemes in their songs. And as for subject matter, some very deep stuff.

beatphats

11-12-2002, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by Evidence
i agree with beatphats' list and 2rude4myowngood's list but 'i got a list, heres the order of my list that its in, it goes':
1. Notorious BIG (rip)
2. Big L (rip)
3. Big Pun (rip)
4. Ras Kass
5.eminem
6. Canibus
7. ikon( a.k.a. the verbal hologram, a.k.a. vinnie paz) / (just download some 'jedi mind tricks' songs and you'll know what im talkin about)
8. virtuoso
9. Rakim
10. nas

these arent actually in exact order but you catch my drift.

I was thinking and probably Canibus and Big L rounds out my top 10. Canibus is one negroid that you could say what Eminem said in 8 mile, "Fluck a beat, I'll go acapella...," 'cause Canibus says some ****, and iff someone could have dropped a beat on his albums, Canibus career would have taken off. And even though, he went toe-to-toe with LL Cool J, he still made career suicide by battleing an established veteran. I still can't really say who got the better end of the battle. One could imagine if Canibus would have battled Eminem on wax IN THE BEGINNING, probably would have been the best battle in history.

Big Daddy Shane

11-12-2002, 05:04 AM

To the dude that said Big Pun out-shone every artist he ever rapped with, I have to make an exception; "When I Die", by Krayzie Bone, feat Big Pun, Fat Joe and Cuban Linx. As good as big punisher is, he is shadowed by Krayzie Bone. In fact, I'm yet to hear a song where Krayzie Bone is out-rapped. Sorry bro, but there is someone better than big pun. Anthony Anderson, take a bow!

Other artists worth mentioning:

Eminem: As whack as he may be, he's got some undeniably talented writing skills.

Bone Thugs n Harmony; Just awesome.

Ice Cube: Back in the early 90's, he was the king of hip hop. Listen to "The Predator", "Amerikkkas most wanted", or "Death Certificate", and you'll see why.

2pac: Great rapper, and a good writer. not the best though.

Cypress Hill: Listen to "black sunday" or "Stoned Raiders" and you'll see why I mentioned these guys. Excellent flow, great lyrics, and they actually make weed sound 'cool'.

I'll post more as I think of them.
BDS

Immortal

11-12-2002, 05:19 AM

First off, I think Eminem is a great rapper but he writes some stupid songs. Like about killing his wife and making fun of pop stars, or talking about his mom doing drugs and how he's gonna kill her. He needs to come up with some better stuff.

2Pac has the best lyrics ever. The way he rhymes to just drills it into your head. I was a fan of Biggie but I think he is a bit overrated. On my top list are :

Rakim - doesn't get enough respect.
LL Cool J - his music sucks now, but it used to be the sh*t back in the day.
Ice Cube - put out alot of great stuff
NWA - my favorite rap group of all time - what happened to MC Ren?
KRS-1 - Doesn't get enough respect either.
Grand Master Flash - the message is a classic rap song

Your all saying Run DMC isn't that good. Listen to Rock Box. One of the best CD's ever.

Big Daddy Shane

11-12-2002, 05:30 AM

MC ren has released some solo albums over the years, as well as a **** load of features. Besides Cube, Ren was the best rapper in NWA. Check out his album "Kiss my Black Azz".
So much for the NWA reunion. I can't believe they were actually going to replace the late Eazy E with Snoop. Snoop was still sucking on his momma's titties when E was rappin about "Boyz N tha hood".
BDS.

el cabron.

11-12-2002, 06:09 AM

axel rose. not a rapper, but i think rap sucks, so... axel rose.

Steinkalt

11-12-2002, 06:24 AM

LL CoolJ.

I know a fat girl
she wears an orange skirt
you give her $20 and you can do work
she takes food stamps and travelers checks
becuase her hair and her face
and her lifes a wreck

Just a question why don't rappers ever use their real name? I mean come on NAZ sounds like hair removal cream.

2Skinny

11-12-2002, 06:59 AM

Everyone seems to think Eminem is the shiznet, but I personally think hes trash. However I will not be so quick to dismiss his talent just because I dont like the guy. There is absolutely NO denying that he is wicked at what he does. Buuuut, if I had to choose who I think is/was the best lyrical rapper of all times. Definatelt Tupac. I mean seriously, never has ONE mans lyrics been so powerful, so meaningful. It completely shows how he was a genius and at heart knew was right and wrong. He was a man who fought his inner demons but also fought the light so to say. Someone on the radio put it perfectlty, he was a torn Soul. Torn between what he had learned grown up, and what was right.

I personally think he was a great poet and a genius who knew his fate.

Just read this small part of his lyrics:

...wit a bunch of *****z dat dont give a PHUCK riding as my soldiers, release em on a war path, not your average dealer, west side outlaw, BAD BOY KILLA....

and read this:

"Murder my friends we built a new posse, we taking shots at paparazzi, go flyyyyyyy now, ***** like rocky! Gotta alota nerve to play me, anotha gay rapper, we taking shots at Jay-z while you all caught up in the rapture, still asking me, im in sipping dacharees, no doubt!...."

And this:

"...and get thi, im hard to kill when im playin with these live shots, father, how the hell did I survive these five shots...."

and:

...Talking 'bout they was looking for keys...I was home aloooone blind to the prelude, bustin, talking about where is the qualoose, watch-U-say fool, where in the hell is the search warrant, no feed back is what he uttered before he screamed ***** mother ****a dropped me to my knees I proceed to bleed, suffering a reign blows to my hands and knees, will I surviiiiiiive is God watching, busting him back, is self defense my only option? God Damn! Now they got me going to the county jail and my fanily cant pay this outrageous bill, tell me if I squeal, put me and my peoples in a mansion in brazil, not me, so this is how it ends no friends, told the judge it was self defense but he wont listen, so im bumping this in federal prison, giving everything I owe!..."

And there is SO much more! Hes a freagen genius! Way more than Eminem could ever be IMHO.

adrenalin19stud

11-12-2002, 07:41 AM

vanilla ice is the ****!!

Immortal

11-12-2002, 07:50 AM

word to your mother - haha vanilla ice

BIGPOPPAPUMP

11-12-2002, 09:54 AM

heres one for ya ironlord

eazy-e
automobile and just swallow it lol

ZachG_85

11-12-2002, 12:48 PM

Some guys to add:

A tribe Called Quest
Busta Rhymes - Come on, how f-cking hard is it to find enough words to cram into a rap that fast and keep it going that long?
Mystikal - Just cause he's the only guy that can keep up to speed with Busta.

And BDS I agree, I've never heard anyone out-rap Krayzie. Although as mentioned before I like Wish's slower off-kilter rhythms a lot.

...can you tell BTNH is the only rap I can stand? :D

Skinnywhiteboy

11-12-2002, 01:18 PM

Nas hands down especially Illmatic and Stillmatic. Not only does he touch on several more issues then the regular rap stuff he does it in a much more poetic way. He also does cool things like taking on the roles of inanimate objects such as a prison cell in I gave you power. Eminem just seems immature in his prose when compared to Nas, he can have some deep songs but you have to dig through half an album of crap to get at them. I'm sorry but rapping about immature bull**** to "push my buttons" is not what I consider good listening.

"These the last wors of a hanging slave how can I forget this
I rob you put you on my hit list
under my nails dirty look at the grime
my burnt lips from the roach clip how can I shine
bein broke bag of dope bitch powerul mind
we brave men
ima blow smoke and keep sayin"

muscleboy69

11-12-2002, 01:26 PM

all eminems records are a f.ucking therapy session for drug and child abuse. get over urself already bitch. :D quit whining. the first time i heard eminem i thought he was an african american woman rapper. his voice is hella annoying. his voice is like that female rapper that sings. "shake ur booty" remeber that old rap song.

thegamecdr

11-12-2002, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by muscleboy69
all eminems records are a f.ucking therapy session for drug and child abuse. get over urself already wigger. :D quit whining.

Hey MuscleBoy...

http://maddox.xmission.com/nohippies.html

IamaSexyBeast

11-12-2002, 01:33 PM

LOL!

muscleboy69

11-12-2002, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by IamaSexyBeast
LOL! i know , eminem is such a whiner :D

Evidence

11-12-2002, 02:18 PM

pretty good list right there, although im not a big fan of Canibus' newer stuff. never heard of Virtuoso either. but for the most part i agree with all the others listed. Big L and Biggie are definately neck and neck

yeah, canibus' new **** is wack. his best album was his first one for sure. virtuoso is an underground white boy (but he sounds black) and he has some sick lyrics.

I was thinking and probably Canibus and Big L rounds out my top 10. Canibus is one negroid that you could say what Eminem said in 8 mile, "Fluck a beat, I'll go acapella...," 'cause Canibus says some ****, and iff someone could have dropped a beat on his albums, Canibus career would have taken off. And even though, he went toe-to-toe with LL Cool J, he still made career suicide by battleing an established veteran. I still can't really say who got the better end of the battle. One could imagine if Canibus would have battled Eminem on wax IN THE BEGINNING, probably would have been the best battle in history.

yeah man, if canibus would have had some sick beats or a popular producer, he would have had a platnum album for sure. his lyrics from his 1st album were too ill. and i think his LL diss was sick and he won the battle (i just dont like LL if you know what i mean). and i do agree that eminem and canibus would have been the best battle in history.

MadChild

11-12-2002, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by muscleboy69
i know , eminem is such a whiner :D

True true, almost as bad as fred durst. From what I've heard about 8 Mile it looks like he has some real talent so maybe he can put it to use with some serious stuff, maybe some less "My life is ****" stuff.

SHOT

11-12-2002, 02:27 PM

Tupac..
Shady...
Biggie...
JayZ
Snoop
Lud...

i can go on but to give you an idea of what i think.

Immortal

11-12-2002, 02:34 PM

Heh that Mike Tyson post is funny as hell. He needs to have a talk show or something. I'd watch it. I read that 2Pac and Tyson were good friends. I guess that's why his entrance music is usually Pac.

SHOT

11-12-2002, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Immortal
Heh that Mike Tyson post is funny as hell. He needs to have a talk show or something. I'd watch it. I read that 2Pac and Tyson were good friends. I guess that's why his entrance music is usually Pac.

Yes they were best of friends after both be "wrongly" accused of rape together...i read alot about this myself...

altho i feel both were prob set up but who knows...pac mentions Tyson alot in his songs...

el cabron.

11-12-2002, 02:44 PM

rappers suck, when they run outta words, they simply make some up, then they become catchphrases which are then beaten to death.

billyp

11-12-2002, 02:51 PM

emimem? bull****......the man's name is COMMON and he hails from Chicago. go check out some real hip-hop

billyp

11-12-2002, 02:54 PM

also, if you wanna hear a real MC, check out DEVIN from Houston, TX. used to be w/ the odd squad

xplicit

11-12-2002, 03:10 PM

sorry momma

wanna hump?

11-12-2002, 03:33 PM

blackalicious, definitely one of the best. check out "chemical calestenics" by him, in his album "blazing arrow"

"The Theory is that all matter is composed of at least three fundamental particles
Protons, electrons, neutrons, Protons charge is positive
By now you've guessed electrons are probably negatively charged
Neutrons don't follow either, neutral, in the middle,"

wanna hump?

11-12-2002, 03:37 PM

[Gift of Gab]
I can do anything

Neutron, proton, mass effect, lyrical oxidation, yo irrelevant
Mass spectrograph, your electron volt, atomic energy erupting
As I get all open on betacron, gamma rays thermo cracking
Cyclotron and any and every mic
You're on trans iridium, if you're always uranium
Molecules, spontaneous combustion, pow

Law of de-fi-nite pro-por-tion, gain-ing weight
I'm every element of brown

Lead, gold, tin, iron, platinum, zinc, when I rap you think
Iodine nitrate activate
Red geranium, the only difference is I transmit sound
Balance was unbalanced then you have a little talent and

Careful, careful with those ingredients
They could explode and blow up if you drop then
And they hit the ground

Let it flow, yo, just let it go, get back

C-O-H-O-2 wine water solution of calcium hydroxide
Slobbin it, C-A-O lime will make bleach powder
Galvanic metal beats stomp out louder
Dried ice, C-0 squared refrigerant
N-O-2 makes you laugh, it's laughing gas used by the gimmicks
I nearly added acid glue, I'm like oil of a toil, the king of chemicals
And the G heat gas waved all your mats
Chemical change, ice point, melt all your raps
Atomic weight, hold shocks, when you call
Refillable gas keep going way beyond
(?) ill with buzzin, feel the ambiance
A diabetic process outta calm your ass
After I warm your ass, I'll give sodium, silicate N-O-2-S-1-O-3, a water glass

Borax flexure full of brimstone sulfur
Boraxic acid, hip-hop preserver
C-O-2 could never put away the fire
Style aroma is scientific; the lyrical fuse would be connected
To teach you chemical calisthenics

The Theory is that all matter is composed of at least three fundamental particles
Protons, electrons, neutrons, Protons charge is positive
By now you've guessed electrons are probably negatively charged
Neutrons don't follow either, neutral, in the middle, only no apologies
Centered, unmoved by yin and yang ideology
Neutron, bomb songs, electron fury
Cosmic musical radio-activity
Different points in joints within infinity
Oxygen and hydrogen alive within all types of energy
Within all types of energy
Within all types of energy
Within all types of energy
Within all types of energy, inside a world, inside a world
Inside a universe, inside of me existing although I can't see it

Hydrocarbon, nitrogen cycle, ionization
Heavier than electric motor metals the way (?)
This has been a chemist, Blackalicious creation
Clean out your desk, put your papers away cause class in almost done

This is chemistry plus calisthenics
I'm calcium plus potassium, magnesium, newspaper of sodium, sulfate
Your solvent, chloroform, remedy from the norm
glycerin, purest form Titanium.. (?)

raventaz13

11-12-2002, 03:39 PM

im the best rapper
Don't nobody love
Don't nobody care
They'd rather sit and stare
And make fun of my hair
I'm a killa
I'm a devil
I'm a punk
I'm a traitor
My momma hate my guts
But I could never ever hate her
And this bitch I used to ****
Say my dick to small
She wasn't saying that when she took it all in the jaw
And all my dogs and my true friends
Think I'm insane
They say
"raven doesn't rationalize
Or talk in normal ways"

enigma_linear

11-12-2002, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by mattabull
maybe im from the old school, but id have to mention Ice Cube.

I was just going to put Ice Cube. Him and Tupac are the only rappers I listen to.

Dann

11-12-2002, 04:22 PM

Jay Z is the best by far

Dann

Immortal

11-12-2002, 05:32 PM

No one can touch 2Pac

One Bullet Left

11-12-2002, 05:36 PM

Cannibus. listen to 2000bc

Evidence

11-12-2002, 05:37 PM

emimem? bull****......the man's name is COMMON and he hails from Chicago. go check out some real hip-hop

ive herd of common....he definately has some lyrics.

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-12-2002, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by Dann
Jay Z is the best by far

Dann

i dunno about that. his first CD, Reasonable Doubt, is one of the best CDs ever but just about everything after that has blown. i dunno what happened but he lost his flow

Arniefan

11-12-2002, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by D-Termine
Okay, i will start by saying eminem is the best, EVER. I hope BannedJeff, formerly DamnJeff, will help me out with posting some lyrics that kill. I know some of you are naming people like Run DMC and ****, but they can't touch em. Hell look at his name. Marshal Mathers, M&M, Eminem. Hows that? I know I posted this in another thread but here is Em rhyming in pig latin

**** just dont change ta this day,
i'm this way still tell that ut-slay its-bay,
i'm a say my ick-day, choose my ick-pay,
addenlay, but uck-fay, ick-kay...

yeah im gunna say eminem too

dianna

11-12-2002, 05:56 PM

My two cents:

Eminem
Busta Rhymes
Method Man
KRS-1 -I havn't heard anything of his since 1996, but I thought he was quite talented.

thugluv

11-12-2002, 06:14 PM

Best lyricist ever IMO (if you dont know his music please dont comment his **** is deep-
2PAC

Best rapper TODAY : EMINEM followed by 50 Cent

D-Termine

11-12-2002, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by muscleboy69
all eminems records are a f.ucking therapy session for drug and child abuse. get over urself already bitch. :D quit whining. the first time i heard eminem i thought he was an african american woman rapper. his voice is hella annoying. his voice is like that female rapper that sings. "shake ur booty" remeber that old rap song.

dude, you suck. you say "hella" and yuo don't like eminem. and you are a "bb" yet you are also a drug addict. seriously, do you like being hated?

D-Termine

11-12-2002, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by wanna hump?
[Gift of Gab]
I can do anything

Neutron, proton, mass effect, lyrical oxidation, yo irrelevant
Mass spectrograph, your electron volt, atomic energy erupting
As I get all open on betacron, gamma rays thermo cracking
Cyclotron and any and every mic
You're on trans iridium, if you're always uranium
Molecules, spontaneous combustion, pow

Law of de-fi-nite pro-por-tion, gain-ing weight
I'm every element of brown

Lead, gold, tin, iron, platinum, zinc, when I rap you think
Iodine nitrate activate
Red geranium, the only difference is I transmit sound
Balance was unbalanced then you have a little talent and

Careful, careful with those ingredients
They could explode and blow up if you drop then
And they hit the ground

Let it flow, yo, just let it go, get back

C-O-H-O-2 wine water solution of calcium hydroxide
Slobbin it, C-A-O lime will make bleach powder
Galvanic metal beats stomp out louder
Dried ice, C-0 squared refrigerant
N-O-2 makes you laugh, it's laughing gas used by the gimmicks
I nearly added acid glue, I'm like oil of a toil, the king of chemicals
And the G heat gas waved all your mats
Chemical change, ice point, melt all your raps
Atomic weight, hold shocks, when you call
Refillable gas keep going way beyond
(?) ill with buzzin, feel the ambiance
A diabetic process outta calm your ass
After I warm your ass, I'll give sodium, silicate N-O-2-S-1-O-3, a water glass

Borax flexure full of brimstone sulfur
Boraxic acid, hip-hop preserver
C-O-2 could never put away the fire
Style aroma is scientific; the lyrical fuse would be connected
To teach you chemical calisthenics

The Theory is that all matter is composed of at least three fundamental particles
Protons, electrons, neutrons, Protons charge is positive
By now you've guessed electrons are probably negatively charged
Neutrons don't follow either, neutral, in the middle, only no apologies
Centered, unmoved by yin and yang ideology
Neutron, bomb songs, electron fury
Cosmic musical radio-activity
Different points in joints within infinity
Oxygen and hydrogen alive within all types of energy
Within all types of energy
Within all types of energy
Within all types of energy
Within all types of energy, inside a world, inside a world
Inside a universe, inside of me existing although I can't see it

Hydrocarbon, nitrogen cycle, ionization
Heavier than electric motor metals the way (?)
This has been a chemist, Blackalicious creation
Clean out your desk, put your papers away cause class in almost done

This is chemistry plus calisthenics
I'm calcium plus potassium, magnesium, newspaper of sodium, sulfate
Your solvent, chloroform, remedy from the norm
glycerin, purest form Titanium.. (?)

fuking lame. don't fill up the board with this crap. anyone that would waste their tiem listening to, or writing that needs serious help

D-Termine

11-12-2002, 06:30 PM

i don't get 2 pac at all. his lyrics are about his own death, and gangs, and murder, and weed and all that stupid ****. none of his rhymes have ever "hit" me. nothing that has been posted means **** to me. its all ***** this ***** that. please will someone post something of value. not that lame ass element crap.

ZachG_85

11-12-2002, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by D-Termine
i don't get 2 pac at all. his lyrics are about his own death, and gangs, and murder, and weed and all that stupid ****. none of his rhymes have ever "hit" me. nothing that has been posted means **** to me. its all ***** this ***** that. please will someone post something of value. not that lame ass element crap.

Yes, his raps are about his death, his fears, his feelings, his life.

Eminem raps about hating gays and killing his wife. Over and over and over and over again. Slim Shady LP was a deep CD to some extent, but that's it.

Tupac managed to keep his thug roots up to his death. Eminem lost that right after Slim Shady went platinum.

CreatineMan

11-12-2002, 06:37 PM

RUN DMC

brooklyn mike

11-12-2002, 06:42 PM

eminem 50 cent is good also...

Alpha Q Up

11-12-2002, 07:17 PM

D12 has some mad lyrics.. i love these guys (i like mad rap)
some o their lyrics...

"Im sick o this.. I wish on christmas that i could get a loaded 4/5th and put a ****in end to this"

"drunk driving a tank... rolling over a bank.. cops see me and faint.. its drastic.. im passed my limit o coke.. i think ill up my habit by slittin ur throat"

"You couldn't pay Swift to give a ****... Crazy like my father... It must have been poison in that n1gga's nut"

"a ***** you never set sight on... my right arms got more power then fiva ivon dragin a python"

as for best meaningful lyrics ever... pac hands down
you know pac:
"you claim to be a playa but i ****ed your wife!"
greatest line ever!!!!!!! :D

thugluv

11-12-2002, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by D-Termine
i don't get 2 pac at all. his lyrics are about his own death, and gangs, and murder, and weed and all that stupid ****. none of his rhymes have ever "hit" me. nothing that has been posted means **** to me. its all ***** this ***** that. please will someone post something of value. not that lame ass element crap.

he had a lot of 'gangsta' songs, but he had a lot of deep songs too

here you go

staring thru my rearview
until the end of time
changes
letter to my unborn child
keep ya head up
i aint mad at cha
breathin
hail mary

well thats just some songs out of my head, ill find some other
he had some good songs

thugluv

11-12-2002, 07:20 PM

Yeah d12 is really good

check out 'revelation' that song is dope

Xtreme4Life

11-12-2002, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by billyp
emimem? bull****......the man's name is COMMON and he hails from Chicago. go check out some real hip-hop

saw Common live the summer before last. he's definitely got some ill rhymes out there, but IMO he's far from the best.

xplicit

11-12-2002, 07:36 PM

If u wanna talk about talent listen to bone thugs n harmony

tygersol

11-12-2002, 07:52 PM

NAS, 2 pac either or GREATEST LYRICISTS IN RAP HISTORY

Immortal

11-12-2002, 08:04 PM

I found this interview with 2Pac and they asked him the question about how the media misrepresents him. I just wanted to post this to all the people who believe the media and judge a person on what they say. I totally agree with Pac and his answer.

Tupac has often said that the media have misrepresented him. What is the real Tupac Shakur like?

"He's a human being with all sides," replied Pac. "Multi-faceted, ups and downs. Goods and bads. Mistakes. Everything, you know. All they want to show is one side, which is distorted. That's a distorted view. So what I said was true. If they would show the good things and the bad things, I would have no complaints, and it would even make them look better. When you just show me doing all this bad stuff, then people gonna just start thinking like 'wait a minute, this dude can't be doing all this bad stuff.' I mean, come on. They don't show nothing else. So it's really helpin' me, cause it's making it look one-sided and untrue. But the thing that bothers me is that it's just not across the board. They do this to rappers or young black males -- inner city people. You know, they do that to us but they don't do that for everybody else. But that bothers me, but I'm not gonna harp on everything that's unfair, 'cause life is unfair. Nobody said it's gonna be easy or fair. I'm not even gonna trip off it. I'm just gonna push forward. When I stop, I stop. When the wheels fall off, the wheels fall off. But until then I'm gonna put the foot to the metal."

Oh yea, and if you want 2Pac's best deep song in my opinions, listen to " Shed So Many Tears." Ill song.

beatphats

11-12-2002, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by 2Rude4MyOwnGood
i dunno about that. his first CD, Reasonable Doubt, is one of the best CDs ever but just about everything after that has blown. i dunno what happened but he lost his flow

Most people would think that reasonable doubt is his best album becuase he was still raw and hungry, but i think on Vol. II he showed he can flip his flow flawlessly from a storytelling flow on "Hard Knock Life" to the tongue twister "***** wha, ***** who." And let's not forget to mention the countless cameos of today's established rappers like DMX LOX, FOXY, etc.

But like what you say Rude... He lost his flow, especially on the Blueprint. Don't know how The Source gave that 5 mics. The last time I heard him flow tight, was probably Big Pimpin' or "Is that yo' chick". I'm trying to get Blueprint II tomorrow, songs I heard so far sounds aiight.

Peace.

Big Daddy Shane

11-12-2002, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by xplicit
If u wanna talk about talent listen to bone thugs n harmony

I agree 110%. Is their new album out in the states yet? It's not getting released until 2003 here in Australia :(.
Daddy Bone.

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-12-2002, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by beatphats
Most people would think that reasonable doubt is his best album becuase he was still raw and hungry, but i think on Vol. II he showed he can flip his flow flawlessly from a storytelling flow on "Hard Knock Life" to the tongue twister "***** wha, ***** who." And let's not forget to mention the countless cameos of today's established rappers like DMX LOX, FOXY, etc.

But like what you say Rude... He lost his flow, especially on the Blueprint. Don't know how The Source gave that 5 mics. The last time I heard him flow tight, was probably Big Pimpin' or "Is that yo' chick". I'm trying to get Blueprint II tomorrow, songs I heard so far sounds aiight.

Peace.

i guess we just have different musical tastes, cause i think that "***** wha, ***** who" might be one of the worst songs ever written. i mean, just look at the title of the song and its easy to see that its similar to most other rap songs these days. jsut a bunch of mindless garbage. thats just my opinion though. i havent heard a single jay z song that i liked off of any of the recent albums, he doesnt rap now, he talks.

TranceNRG

11-13-2002, 02:21 AM

2rude
the only good Jay Z songs are Renegade which is a duate with Eminem and My Girlfriend which is a copy of Tupac's song. :)

anywayz, you're right. Other than eminem, Rappers these days jus' rap about mindless GARBAGE. :)

GARBAGE I tell ya

props to Eminem one moe time :)

irpker

11-13-2002, 02:24 AM

Jay-Z hasn't made a good song after his second album~

Also, the only reason Eminem is somewhat decent is that he's white, and talks **** to anybody and generally doesn't give a fukk what anybody thinks~ People like him are funny in RL.

beatphats

11-13-2002, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by 2Rude4MyOwnGood
i guess we just have different musical tastes, cause i think that "***** wha, ***** who" might be one of the worst songs ever written. i mean, just look at the title of the song and its easy to see that its similar to most other rap songs these days. jsut a bunch of mindless garbage. thats just my opinion though. i havent heard a single jay z song that i liked off of any of the recent albums, he doesnt rap now, he talks.

I wasn't saying that ***** wha, ***** who is a good song, I was just trying to compare the different rap flows in the album which he's has abandant nowadays. Also, I'm definitely not trying to saying he's one of the best, just look at my top 10 earlier in the thread.

Recently, the last two good songs worth listening are "Renegade" mainly because of Eminem, of course, and the bonus track on The Blueprint "Brreathe easy", I think all you bb'ers would love this song, even if you're not into rap.

Steinkalt

11-13-2002, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by ZachG_85

Tupac managed to keep his thug roots up to his death. Eminem lost that right after Slim Shady went platinum.

You think maybe his Thug Roots is what got him killed, I don't get the fascination and glorifgfication of the Thug life. A bunch of low lifes idolizing some other low lifes. It's no ****ing wonder the rest of the world hates us.

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-13-2002, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by TranceNRG
2rude
the only good Jay Z songs are Renegade which is a duate with Eminem and My Girlfriend which is a copy of Tupac's song. :)

and thats part of the reason that i hate jay z, cause he remade a tupac song even though tupac and he didnt get along when he was alive. tupac hated jay z but jay still thought it was ok to steal his song. and its also rumored that jayz will be on tupacs upcoming album "Better Dayz", due at the end of the month

ZachG_85

11-13-2002, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Steinkalt
You think maybe his Thug Roots is what got him killed, I don't get the fascination and glorifgfication of the Thug life. A bunch of low lifes idolizing some other low lifes. It's no ****ing wonder the rest of the world hates us.

No, the rest of the world hates us because we're arrogant and constantly pop into other countries unwanted.

As for Tupac, would you expect him to rap about sunshine and flowers, or money and bitches? That's not what he lived through, and how can you judge the guy for his artistic expression? I respect that more than the Jay-Z "Big Pimpin" bull**** that goes around now.

Steinkalt

11-13-2002, 01:40 PM

I tell you what when 2pac does return to life he's gonna have a line a mile long of guys ready to suck his dick. And the ones in the front will probally be from this board.

What ever happent to the good old days of wrap with artist like the sugar hill gang.

ZachG_85

11-13-2002, 01:46 PM

Yeah, damn people and their need to express themselves however they want. We need a board of people to mandate musical substance! :rolleyes:

Steinkalt

11-13-2002, 01:48 PM

Excellennt Idea. Can I be on the board?

ZachG_85

11-13-2002, 01:49 PM

Sure, it'll be you, Hitler, and Lieberman :D

Steinkalt

11-13-2002, 01:52 PM

I can see it now in about six months no more gansta rap. Makes me all tingly inside.

What will I make america listen to ???
What about Polka?

ZachG_85

11-13-2002, 01:59 PM

I hope that wasn't making fun of Polka, because it rocks. I've been to a polka party before and it's good times :D

thugluv

11-13-2002, 05:20 PM

BDS yes their new album is out now
Thug World Order get it off kazaa

btw Bizzy bone is no longer with BTNH since a few :(

greg

11-13-2002, 06:00 PM

I can believe everyone forgot about .......SHAQ........

ZachG_85

11-13-2002, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by greg
I can believe everyone forgot about .......SHAQ........

"What's up doc? Let's rock!"

How could we forget :D

Big Daddy Shane

11-13-2002, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by thugluv
BDS yes their new album is out now
Thug World Order get it off kazaa

btw Bizzy bone is no longer with BTNH since a few :(

I can't download songs off the net, as I pay per MB and it costs a ****load. How is their new album? I heard Bizzy Bone got booted, he's a good rapper. I like his high-pitched voice, and he's got a rapid-fire flow. As long as Krayzie is still with the group, that's all that matters.
Peace bro.
BDS

ZachG_85

11-14-2002, 03:58 AM

I got a bunch of stuff from the new album and Bizzy sounds -very- different. Same voice, but a really odd style that in some cases tends to hurt the songs.

Immortal

11-14-2002, 12:58 PM

Shaq kicked ass in Kazaam

Steinkalt

11-14-2002, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by Immortal
Shaq kicked ass in Kazaam

ZachG_85

11-14-2002, 03:27 PM

And of course, there was Shaq-Fu.

That game was so wretched midway through playing it I vomited in my own shoes.

Till I Collapse

11-14-2002, 03:48 PM

Hands down, Eminem is the smartest and his **** is the rawest. Bone and Twista are fast as ****, but their **** is same old bud smoking stuff. Big Pun is good, but his beats are kinda trite. If anybody wants some raw Eminem lyrics then I can post some off the top of my head:

"Got your girl on my arm and I'm armed w/a firebomb so big that my entire arm is a giant firebomb. Buy a shirt w/a slim shady iron on, and the pants to match (here mama, try em on)" - Still Don't Give A ****

"*** or lez, trans or ves, pants or dress, hate ***s, the answer's yes" - Criminal

"A maniac in fact son, you lookin zany whack w/just a fraction of my tracks run" - Infinite

Other lyrically sick songs:

Run Rabbit Run
313
Renegades ft. Royce da 5'9
3hree6ix5ive
...many more

----------- damnJeff

Till I Collapse

11-14-2002, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by ZachG_85
Yes, his raps are about his death, his fears, his feelings, his life.

Eminem raps about hating gays and killing his wife. Over and over and over and over again. Slim Shady LP was a deep CD to some extent, but that's it.

Tupac managed to keep his thug roots up to his death. Eminem lost that right after Slim Shady went platinum.

They both rap about what they know and what they feel. That's all. You can't bag on them for "keeping it real".

---------damnJeff

Till I Collapse

11-14-2002, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by thugluv
Yeah d12 is really good

check out 'revelation' that song is dope

Bump.

"And when the principal told me I wouldn't amount to ****, I made my first million and count-ed it, now look at, a fukkin dropout that quits, stupid as ****, rich as fukk and proud of it" - Em's Verse

"...and I can't get a bitch, all I got is dirty magazines and sticky fingertips" - Swifty's Verse (I think)

"And why do I gotta ride the bench, coach? Already got expelled for wearing a trench coat!" - D12 Member Verse

D12 ft Eminem "Words are Weapons" is also raw:

"Shady stay creative, baby, hold your head up, don't you let up one bit on these mother****ing suckers, you're a soldier, GET UP! STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN AS LONG AS YOU BREATHIN', THEY JEALOUS OF YOU MAN, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THEY BEEFIN'!"

---------- damnJeff

ZachG_85

11-14-2002, 04:04 PM

Yeah, I love how Eminem has a song called "words are weapons" on the D12 soundtrack, then talks about how half of his hate-filled crap is "just joking" :rolleyes:

D12 has some good stuff, I'll admit.

He's a little punk-ass kid, period. And after seeing him in numerous interviews and listening to all of his stuff, he's lost my respect big time.

And come on, Bone raps about weed, and killing people. Two things. Eminem raps about hating his mom, and (now) how terrible it is being him. Also two things.

Few rappers have more than one or two things to rap about, it's all in how it's done and whether or not it's worth listening to.

Till I Collapse

11-14-2002, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by ZachG_85
Yeah, I love how Eminem has a song called "words are weapons" on the D12 soundtrack, then talks about how half of his hate-filled crap is "just joking" :rolleyes:

When did he say he was "just joking"? Back your **** up, man.

ZachG_85

11-14-2002, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Till I Collapse
When did he say he was "just joking"? Back your **** up, man.

Ever seen any interview where someone pulls him apart for his lyrics? Says it every time. Quote from a VH1 interview:

"If I say six lines about raping and killing and doing drugs, but at the end I say I'm just joking, don't do that stuff, it's like I never even said that, all they hear is the raping and killing."

He should realize that even in jest, horrible things are still horrible things. Racist jokes still are offensive, even if said in jest.

Cyber Whore

11-14-2002, 04:28 PM

Missy Rocks!

Lil Chris

11-14-2002, 04:36 PM

2pac

IwishIwasBuff

11-14-2002, 05:00 PM

Check out anything by this rapper named TECH N9NE

Big Daddy Shane

11-14-2002, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by IwishIwasBuff
Check out anything by this rapper named TECH N9NE

Is he the same rapper that went by the name "N9ne" a few years ago? He had an album called "nine livez".

Also, for those that are into the street-politics sound of PE, Lench Mob etc, check out Paris.

Immortal

11-14-2002, 05:53 PM

Eminem claims he is the white 2Pac. I find that funny.

overdeveloped

11-14-2002, 06:49 PM

Jurassic Five has solid lyrics and a tight flow. There new single "what's Golden" should persuade most of you of that.

peace

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-14-2002, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Big Daddy Shane
Is he the same rapper that went by the name "N9ne" a few years ago? He had an album called "nine livez".

Also, for those that are into the street-politics sound of PE, Lench Mob etc, check out Paris.

no f'n way. you are one of the few people i have ever encountered who have heard of Nine, hes one of my all time favorites. both his albums were amazing. Tech N9ne isnt the same guy though

2Skinny

11-15-2002, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by Immortal
Eminem claims he is the white 2Pac. I find that funny.

hahahaha he said that? Yeah Marshall, your a piece of a ****! You will never be like 2Pac

2Skinny

11-15-2002, 06:36 AM

Even though I hate Eminem, It would be awesome if 2Pac was still alive or Biggie. I would love to see if they all got into a crazy lyrical battle, or if they teamed up on tracks and dropped something out of this world.

SIZMTRZ

11-15-2002, 07:10 AM

Well, I would Have to Say KRS 1 and Boogie Down Productions(BDP) ~ A Little Political, a LOT Educational!

Public Enemy ~ A Lot Political , a Little Educational.

Eminem - It is nice to hear GOOD rap to Great Beats that isn't ***** this and ***** That. And the boy has Crazy Freestyle skills.

It is funny that everyone is all on 2PAC cuz he took like 20-30 different lines of dialogue and turned it into 200 songs!

And, from a strictly entertainment point of view...at the TOP of my list...the ICP!!!!!!!! The Insane Clown Posse are Friggin Hilarious and have the BEST....BEST Concert you will ever see... just be sure to bring a change of cloths~!

SIZMTRZ

11-15-2002, 07:16 AM

other Favs. that have somthing to say besides "look at all my gold teefis and my 22" wheels on my 78' monte Carlo"

Scarface
Beastie Boys
DMX
NAS
PM Dawn
EPMD
ONYX
Ice-T
Rage against the Machine

..I better stopp cause I 'M starting to change Genres!

Big Daddy Shane

11-15-2002, 08:29 AM

Here's my fav list;
Ice T (Was making albums when Ja Rule was still in kindergarten)
Ice Cube (last decade's King of Hip Hop)
NWA
Public Enemy
Big Daddy Kane
Da Lench Mob
Kausion
Eazy E
Above the Law
DJ Quik
Tha Dogg Pound
2pac (including Thug Life, Outlaws, Stretch)
Snoop Doggy Dogg (especially his first album)
Mr Malik
Paris
Bone Thugs N Harmony (Krayzie Bone is the best rapper EVER)
Spice 1 (awesome emcee)
MC Eiht (Has a good start/stop flow)
Warren G (including the Twinz, Dove Shack, Nate Dogg)
Cypress Hill (Stoned Raiders is one of the top 10 albums of all time. Listen to it!!)
Wu Tang Clan (first two albums are untouchable)
Kam
D12
Eminem
Da Brat (first album was dope)
Nine
Tray Deee
AllfromthaI
Mack 10
Jayo Felony
Xhibit
CPO
Too $hort
Keith Murray
Eric Sermon
Outkast
AZ
Gravediggaz
FaceMob
Scarface
Coolio
Lil 1/2 Dead
Fat Joe
big Pun
Dr Dre
MC Ren
House Of Pain
Lords of the Underground
Main Source
Run-DMC
Redman
RBX
Rappin 4-Tay
Slick Rick
Naughty by Nature
WC
The Fugees
South Central Cartel

Anyone I forgot, remind me and I'll add them

SIZMTRZ

11-15-2002, 08:37 AM

HOW COULD i HAVE FORGOTTEN TOO SHORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

and Props to another Detroit Rapper....... Esham!!!

666 with a mic in my hand!

ZachG_85

11-15-2002, 10:06 AM

Can't believe I forgot Outkast. Maybe not the best lyrically, but in terms of musicianship they're among the best.

And seriously, if you take your average gangsta rap song and replace '*****' with '***got' then you've got your average eminem song.

SIZMTRZ

11-15-2002, 10:14 AM

thats pretty funny Zach!

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-15-2002, 10:47 AM

Big Daddy Shane, we have ridiculously similar tastes in hip hop. get out of my head dude. speaking of Nine, have you heard anything about him lately? he just dissappeared for a while, came back and dropped a couple of songs then went back into hiding

Till I Collapse

11-15-2002, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Immortal
Eminem claims he is the white 2Pac. I find that funny.

He never claimed that. He said "white pop" not "white pac".

Till I Collapse

11-15-2002, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by 2Skinny
hahahaha he said that? Yeah Marshall, your a piece of a ****! You will never be like 2Pac

He never said that. And the only reason he'll never be like Tupac is because he's white. IMO I think he's got better skills.

Captain Action

11-15-2002, 02:51 PM

Toby Mac <----- A fav.
T. Bone<-------- Another fav. rapper.

Till I Collapse

11-15-2002, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Captain Action
Toby Mac <----- A fav.
T. Bone<-------- Another fav. rapper.

Ahahahahah, T Bone! They were giving out free Christian cds on campus last year and T Bone was on it. He had some gay song called "Turn this up". OMG, we clowned his ass so bad.

xplicit

11-15-2002, 05:43 PM

is limp bizkit considered rap?

whatever happened to them they roxed

Till I Collapse

11-15-2002, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by xplicit
is limp bizkit considered rap?

whatever happened to them they roxed

Fred Durst got his panties all bunched up when Wes Borlin left the band.

ZachG_85

11-15-2002, 05:52 PM

That's because Wes practically was the band. If it wasn't for him I would have never bought Three Dollar Bill Yall$ or Significant Other.

xplicit

11-15-2002, 06:06 PM

so no more limp?

ZachG_85

11-15-2002, 06:19 PM

Nope. They're done.

Big Daddy Shane

11-15-2002, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Till I Collapse
Ahahahahah, T Bone! They were giving out free Christian cds on campus last year and T Bone was on it. He had some gay song called "Turn this up". OMG, we clowned his ass so bad.

You can't be referring to T-Bone from Da Lench Mob, can you? I doubt he would do something so corny. Da Lench Mob are amongst the most hardcore rappers I've ever heard.

2Rude, I've not heard anything from Nine in years. Nine Livez was one of the best albums of 1995, along with E.1999 Eternal by BTnH, and Me Against the World by Tupac.

As for Eminem, he calls himself White-Pac on "Say what you say".

Till I Collapse

11-15-2002, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Big Daddy Shane

As for Eminem, he calls himself White-Pac on "Say what you say".

white POP

He's already got the african american community breathing down his neck for "stealing their music". Why would he say some **** like that?

ZachG_85

11-15-2002, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by Till I Collapse

He's already got the african american community breathing down his neck for "stealing their music". Why would he say some **** like that? [/B]

Cause he's a complete moron?

"I don't hate gays. ***got is just a word that takes away someone's manhood."

Anyone who can say that and think it helps them can't be much smarter than your average kindergartener.

Alpha Q Up

11-15-2002, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by Till I Collapse

"...and I can't get a bitch, all I got is dirty magazines and sticky fingertips" - Swifty's Verse (I think)

nope, thats kuniva's part... he comes in after swifty and it goes "THE ONLY THING I HAVE is..."

yes, i listen to d12 too much :D

Big Daddy Shane

11-15-2002, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Till I Collapse
white POP

It's actually whitePAC moron. If you don't believe me, checkout his lyrics at www.ohhla.com or, if you have the Eminem Show album, look inside the album booklet. The lyrics are there. :rolleyes:

IwishIwasBuff

11-15-2002, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by 2Rude4MyOwnGood
no f'n way. you are one of the few people i have ever encountered who have heard of Nine, hes one of my all time favorites. both his albums were amazing. Tech N9ne isnt the same guy though

Naw tech N9ne isnt the same guy, but if you have Kazaa get some stuff by him. He raps really fast but u can hear the words clearly! He throws in rapping backwards and all kinds of good ****...

wanna hump?

11-16-2002, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by D-Termine
fuking lame. don't fill up the board with this crap. anyone that would waste their tiem listening to, or writing that needs serious help i think that song is pretty funny. i've never seen any other lyrics this creative. and i didnt write it fool, it was copied and pasted smart guy.

LETHAL BURN

11-16-2002, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by ZachG_85
Some guys to add:

A tribe Called Quest
Busta Rhymes - Come on, how f-cking hard is it to find enough words to cram into a rap that fast and keep it going that long?
Mystikal - Just cause he's the only guy that can keep up to speed with Busta.

And BDS I agree, I've never heard anyone out-rap Krayzie. Although as mentioned before I like Wish's slower off-kilter rhythms a lot.

...can you tell BTNH is the only rap I can stand? :D

TRIBE CALLED QUEST! GOOD ONE BOSS! Good bump on Mystical and Busta!

LETHAL BURN

11-16-2002, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by ZachG_85
That's because Wes practically was the band. If it wasn't for him I would have never bought Three Dollar Bill Yall$ or Significant Other.
DAMN SKIPPY. FRED DURST IS OLD NEWS.

Till I Collapse

11-16-2002, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Big Daddy Shane
It's actually whitePAC moron. If you don't believe me, checkout his lyrics at www.ohhla.com or, if you have the Eminem Show album, look inside the album booklet. The lyrics are there. :rolleyes:

I did look there and I also consulted other sites and the message boards at d12world.com, moron :rolleyes:

Till I Collapse

11-16-2002, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by ZachG_85

Anyone who can say that and think it helps them can't be much smarter than your average kindergartener.

Your ignorance speaks. Why don't you listen to some of his **** and try to pick apart rhyme schemes before you dog on him? He's brilliant and if you don't think so then I'd like to see you write some of his rhyme schemes. :rolleyes:

Marciano

11-16-2002, 01:08 PM

Just because no one mentioned them - jeru the damaja and spice 1. a friend of mine who's has a radio show at school put me on jeru, and spice 1 i just know from seeing tales from the hood. he's got a song in there. one of the hardest one's i've ever heard, born to die. i think he's scarface's cousing too.

as for eminem, he's definitely talented, but he gets the best beats too.i could jsut listen to all his albums without the lyrics. if someone like xzibit, who's also great, got those beats instead of dre's left overs, they'd be selling 10 million too.

canibus too is one of the best, especially on beasts from the east with the lox.

dmx could have been great, but he's terrible now, still not as bad as ja rule though.

everything wu-tang has ever done is great, totally original, raw, great lyrics, gza, ghostface, inspectah deck are all among the best lyricists.

nas is another one like dmx, only he started out better, but has probably fallen just as far. illmatic was probably top 5 rap cds ever. just brilliant lyrics, brilliant beats, and even good saxophone, which was his dad playing. and for the person who was asking why he chose to rap under nas, it's cuz his real name is nasir.

outkast doesn't have great lyrics, but as pure musicians they're up there. loved their first album.

and of course slick rick, great voice, great songs - treat her like a prostiture, lick the balls, childrens story.

Till I Collapse

11-16-2002, 01:11 PM

Wu Tang is great. I can't stop listening to that song "Impossible". ODB cracks me up in "Dog****".

Ja Rule is just a str8 up bitch. Only good **** by him:

Lets Ride
How Many Wanna Die
Fukk You

Ma$e

11-16-2002, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by thegamecdr
He was until Eminem came along..

LOOOOOOOOOOL yea ****in right man.

Ma$e

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-16-2002, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Marciano
Just because no one mentioned them - jeru the damaja and spice 1. a friend of mine who's has a radio show at school put me on jeru, and spice 1 i just know from seeing tales from the hood. he's got a song in there. one of the hardest one's i've ever heard, born to die. i think he's scarface's cousing too.

as for eminem, he's definitely talented, but he gets the best beats too.i could jsut listen to all his albums without the lyrics. if someone like xzibit, who's also great, got those beats instead of dre's left overs, they'd be selling 10 million too.

canibus too is one of the best, especially on beasts from the east with the lox.

dmx could have been great, but he's terrible now, still not as bad as ja rule though.

everything wu-tang has ever done is great, totally original, raw, great lyrics, gza, ghostface, inspectah deck are all among the best lyricists.

nas is another one like dmx, only he started out better, but has probably fallen just as far. illmatic was probably top 5 rap cds ever. just brilliant lyrics, brilliant beats, and even good saxophone, which was his dad playing. and for the person who was asking why he chose to rap under nas, it's cuz his real name is nasir.

outkast doesn't have great lyrics, but as pure musicians they're up there. loved their first album.

and of course slick rick, great voice, great songs - treat her like a prostiture, lick the balls, childrens story.

oh yeah i forgot about Jeru. Wrath of the Math is one of my favorite CDs, whats he doing these days?

Evidence

11-16-2002, 08:01 PM

canibus too is one of the best, especially on beasts from the east with the lox.

i think that was with 'lost boyz'. but yeah that is my favorite canibus track ever (he flows for like 3 minutes strait) and if im not mistaken that was his first or second track he ever appeared on (either that one or Uni4rm w/ ras kass and heltah skeltah.).

Wu Tang is great. I can't stop listening to that song "Impossible". ODB cracks me up in "Dog****".

hell yeah, i love wu. i have every one of thier cds and a lot of each individual artists' cds too. 36 chambrs is still my fav. wu cd and wu forever is up their too. imo inspectah deck and reakwon are the best lyricists in wu.

and to all the eminem haters, you guys are ignorant because if you herd some of his underground **** or evern his 1st album you would have a dif. opinion. hes only been rappin about his life so much since his last 2 cds and I still feel that it is sick. the way he puts his verses together and the metephors and smilies he uses are genius.

Jason Scott

11-17-2002, 04:13 PM

Eminem.

I think people who get mad at his lyrics are just looking for attention. Its like people who get mad a jokes is a comedy club, is like WTF get a life man, it's a joke. Honestly even if he means it the way he says it funny, Who cares If you don't like it don't listen.

"Give me e-le-ven exe-de-rin and my head-'ll spin
me-di-cine will have me re-vin like a se-ven -fourty-seven dead-en-gine
scratch my balls till I sweat its skin
doctor check my rash look how red its'-been
"Its probably AIDS"
forget-it-then"-EMinem

Classic!

Jay

ZachG_85

11-17-2002, 04:21 PM

No, there's a difference between a mean joke and Em's lyrics. "Hey, there should be a Mohammad Ali bobblehead doll" is mean but funny, while "I hate ***s and want to kill them" is just mean and inspires violence.

And as for lyrical skills he's not nearly as good as most underground rap.

Jason Scott

11-17-2002, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by ZachG_85
No, there's a difference between a mean joke and Em's lyrics. "Hey, there should be a Mohammad Ali bobblehead doll" is mean but funny, while "I hate ***s and want to kill them" is just mean and inspires violence.

And as for lyrical skills he's not nearly as good as most underground rap.

You are right, but Eminem does'nt say what you just did. You took it out of context and misquoted what he said, now it does not sound funny.

Show me where he says that. Please enlighten me, I don't remember those lyrics.

Jay

Marciano

11-17-2002, 04:41 PM

you're right about that canibus track, it is with the lost boys and a+, i was thinking of dmx's first track, with the lox and lil kim, - money power respect, when dmx was still good, but the best line on that one was "6'2 230, you vs. me is like a poodle vs a pit bull."

ZachG_85

11-17-2002, 04:43 PM

"Doesn't matter if your a *** or a les, hate ***s? The answer's yes"

From criminal. I can quote more. Not to mention the absolutely horrendous "Kim"

Jason Scott

11-17-2002, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by ZachG_85
"Doesn't matter if your a *** or a les, hate ***s? The answer's yes"

From criminal. I can quote more. Not to mention the absolutely horrendous "Kim"

He also followed that line with,

"homophobic? Nah you just heterophobic..."-Eminem

And as for Kim, I thought that song was hillarius, and I can't see how you refuse to see the humor in this and take it so seriously. He said he was going to drive honking the hork and grab her hand and wave at people with it, how truthful can that be? LOL

It is ok for you to have your opinion, realize that kind of music is not for you and move on, no reason to bash the guy. I hate Celine Dion, her damn music makes me angry, talk about producing violence.. Play the **** in my house for 1 hour I may go Postal!

I just don't listen to her, no biggie, to each his/her own. You can hate Eminem all you want, I like his music, lets agree to disagree and move on .

Jay

ZachG_85

11-17-2002, 05:09 PM

the "homophic, nah you're just heterophobic" is a classic line used by people who hate gays to come back at those who label them homophobes. They use it like "No, YOU'RE the one with the problem ya damn ***"

As for Kim, whatever.

All this doesn't matter, he's a terrible rapper compared to a LOT of black artists who don't get any credit.

Jason Scott

11-17-2002, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by ZachG_85

All this doesn't matter, he's a terrible rapper compared to a LOT of black artists who don't get any credit.

So now is a racial issue? I am Hispanic, you don't see me screaming out Pun just because hes of my race, Eminem is very talented white or black.

If you want to make it racial, for eminem to be taken seriously in an industry who is mainly ran and supported by black people how much better did he have to be? Much better than everyone else to start. Other white rappers have tried to do the same, they fail miserably.

IF there are many better that are underground, why are they not signed?

Anyhow I won't post anymore here, we are all allowed a say.

Jay

ZachG_85

11-17-2002, 05:25 PM

Well if you're denying Em's fame stems from his color, you're an idiot. Notice he's on TRL, not BET.

And all right, feel free to stop posting.

ZachG_85

11-17-2002, 05:25 PM

Well if you're denying Em's fame stems from his color, you're an idiot. Notice he's on TRL, not BET.

And all right, feel free to stop posting.

Evidence

11-17-2002, 05:32 PM

And as for lyrical skills he's not nearly as good as most underground rap.

eminem used to be underground and that is when i feel he was his best. he did a bunch of stuff wit the rawkus lable. i have this cd called 'the high and the mighty' and he spits some sick **** on there. youre right that there are a bunch of talented underground artists. i just bought the new 7L&Esoteric album and it is too ill.

FATHER FLEX

11-17-2002, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by ZachG_85
Well if you're denying Em's fame stems from his color, you're an idiot. Notice he's on TRL, not BET.

And all right, feel free to stop posting.

He made it okay for a other people (white females mostly) to like rap music. Kind of how Elvis did back in the day.

Ma$e

11-17-2002, 06:58 PM

All around top 5 all time.......

2pac
Biggie
Nas
Jay Z
Master P

P cuz of what he did for dirty south ****.

Ma$e

error

11-17-2002, 07:33 PM

Only 3 good rappers

2pac (A god)
Eminem
DMX

-- That's all ---

&

That's all there will ever be.

bigliftsCNU

11-17-2002, 07:38 PM

best rapper... ???? hmm

how bout toby keith in " i wanna talk about me" :D :D :D

Xtreme4Life

11-17-2002, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by bigliftsCNU
best rapper... ???? hmm

how bout toby keith in " i wanna talk about me" :D :D :D

Gary Allan is the **** IMO. He'd blow Eminem outa the fukkin water ;)

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-17-2002, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by Ma$e
All around top 5 all time.......

2pac
Biggie
Nas
Jay Z
Master P

P cuz of what he did for dirty south ****.

Ma$e

Master P? thats a bold statement right there dude

Ma$e

11-17-2002, 09:05 PM

He brought the south into the limelight. Without him, outkast, luda, cash money, all of the south would have had it ALOT harder commin mainstream. Plus his style is original, and the motherfukker is REAL.

Ma$e

Jason Scott

11-17-2002, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Ma$e
He brought the south into the limelight. Without him, outkast, luda, cash money, all of the south would have had it ALOT harder commin mainstream. Plus his style is original, and the motherfukker is REAL.

Ma$e

Yeh... He made the whole world say "UUUHHHH" :rolleyes:

We talking about the best lyricists. P ain't one of them...

Thats like saying nelly is a lyricist, sure he said in that one song...
"I'm just Kid 'n Like Jason" (Jason Kidd) But that was about it.

Jay

Ma$e

11-17-2002, 09:56 PM

I guess I was reffering more to P's style...Jay Z's reasonable doubt days are at the top of my list...he fell off though.

Ma$e

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-17-2002, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Ma$e
He brought the south into the limelight. Without him, outkast, luda, cash money, all of the south would have had it ALOT harder commin mainstream. Plus his style is original, and the motherfukker is REAL.

Ma$e

definately brought southern rap to the mainstream, but when i think about the best lyricists ever hes not even close to being on my list

beatphats

11-17-2002, 10:20 PM

What's the difference between underground rap artists and mainstream rap artists?

beatphats

11-17-2002, 10:25 PM

[i]personally i think that Big L had better punch lines and a better flow that Eminem. [/B]

Man, I wish Lord Finesse and Big L would've have made an album, if any of ya wanna hear a great lyrists' album check out D.I.T.C: Diggn' in the Crates. Off the meatrack!!!

IgotWRXed

11-17-2002, 10:25 PM

eminem is the ONLY rapper out there now who is a lyricist. no 20 inch ****, crystal this and that, or songs about other mindless bs that gets tired. cashmoney and groups like them are great for clubs and party rap, but eminem is so real and lyrical is isnt funny at all. his freestyles are insane as well.

beatphats

11-17-2002, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by Ma$e
I guess I was reffering more to P's style...Jay Z's reasonable doubt days are at the top of my list...he fell off though.

Ma$e

Yo Ma$e

How's the whole reverent thing going LOL..

Anyway, I wanted to bring up on the most player hated artist of all time: M-A-Dollar sign-E.

I know he got corny real fast and the end of the career, but if any of ya heard him on those underground DJ Clue mixtapes in NYC, you'll know that he had some skillz, too bad he became more commercial than a TV show interruption.

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-17-2002, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by beatphats
Man, I wish Lord Finesse and Big L would've have made an album, if any of ya wanna hear a great lyrists' album check out D.I.T.C: Diggn' in the Crates. Off the meatrack!!!

DITC are one of the all time greatest groups.

Lord Finesse was badass too but i didnt really think that his solo stuff was anything special, the beats were definately lacking. but who can forget "i get the most of Hos, im so cool i got pussy on remote control"

as for Big L, what can i say, anyone who has been into hip hop for a long time understands that hes one of the greats. they just released some new Big L stuff on vinyl if you are interested. its called Harlems Finest: a Freestyle History Vol. 2 and its got some new tracks on it. i think you can get it at sandboxautomatic.com

Bone

11-17-2002, 10:57 PM

What about Andre from OUTKAST??? He has some wicked lines. Also Kurupt from Dogg Pound. Eminems has a list of who he thinks the best rappers are:

Reggie (redman)
Jay Z
Tupac
Biggie
Andre From OUTKAST
Jadakiss
Nas

Peace

Bone

beatphats

11-17-2002, 10:59 PM

Well, I was exposed to Lord Finesse freestyle on mixtapes, so I always heard him flow for one verse and mostly on a tight beat.

Here's some verses for your pleasure..

"Quick to get in that ass in ways that homo's wouldn't approve of"

"You better step to the next man Cause the greatest soccer player couldn't kick it like Finesse can"

"You could have a silver jacket with rhinestones and couldn't shine more than me"

beatphats

11-17-2002, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by Bone
What about Andre from OUTKAST??? He has some wicked lines. Also Kurupt from Dogg Pound. Eminems has a list of who he thinks the best rappers are:

Reggie (redman)
Jay Z
Tupac
Biggie
Andre From OUTKAST
Jadakiss
Nas

Peace

Bone

Well, I don't know if he has some wicked lines just because like Bone Thugs, I DON"T FLUCKING UNDERSTAND THEM, except for a few songs. But one thing Outkast does best is being original, and I think that's what Eminem respects. I love Rosa Parks, so southernplaylistic, even negroids like me from NYC could clap their hands to that lil' break with that dude going off with the harmonica.

One thing that producers can't do nowdays is do those breaks in the songs. I used to love listening to Eric B. rip it up between rakim verses, etc...

ZachG_85

11-18-2002, 04:13 AM

People often forget there are two important elements to being a great rapper: coming up with clever ways of saying things, and making sure the words flow together well. Eminem is decent at both, but not great, there sure as hell are better.

Someone said it's hard to understand Bone Thugs. Pop onto ohhla.com and read along with their songs some time. "Crept and We Came" is just incredible, so is "Down 71" both off of E1999 Eternal.

chionardo

11-18-2002, 06:49 AM

CHINO XL is clearly has some of the heaviest lyrics and metaphores. Peep this:-

On everything that I love, I attack rap genres..
Fatter than Chaka Khan was
XL excederin verbal medicine sealed for tamperin
Consider me the Master P of God like Kirk Frank-lin
Shoot 'em shank 'em and burn they skin
Blast for laughs at Chino actions
Skill is a blessin you cowards could only imagine
You ain't an X-Man like comic books, you an ex-man like RuPaul
Run through y'all leave y'all stiffer than Ken dolls
You wanna start friction? Play Don and King and..
.. end up gettin ****ed like Ving Rhames in "Pulp Fiction"
My rhymes so hot they just might trigger the sprinkler system
Like freaks that Eddie Murphy call witch you comin up missin
Now you gonna listen?! Or do I have to remind you?
I'll punch a hole through your chest
and give a pound to the man behind you
Killin you and the ***** that signed you like my Dad invented murder, I rhyme til it's a torture to me, exhaust like a catalytic converter
It's sad for me to admit I heard of, you, such a fake one
There's so many gay rappers
they probably diss me cause I'm the straight one
Plus chicks can't trick the light-skinned ***** with the long hair
With Nick Cage in an airplane these hoes couldn't +Con Air+

From the Track "I Told You So"

ALSO

CANIBUS:-

yo, yo, yo
This is hardcore, out of my heart's core
Principles, laws, equations, and formulas drawn on chalkboards
Generate thought forms quicker than Concordes
With onboard computers logged on to On Star
En garde, take ten steps and draw
I'm the law around these parts, respect it dog
Or you might spend a weekend in the county morgue
With an unsuitable coffin that's way too small
And a deacon blessing your body at a funeral
You get a 21 blunt salute, and life goes on
Gotta stay *positive*, focus on the *protons*
And post dope songs on mp3.com
As deep as a Tupac poem, I wish I got to know him
Both him and Big Poppa was the greatest, and know they gone
'What's Goin' On?' On my album, I'ma do a song
Who Shot Ya? Remix featuring Shyne and Sean
Before I battle total strangers
I make em sign disclaimers, that state they're aware of the danger
See, I might become overwhelmed with anger
Split your skull like a banana, and bludgeon your face with a hammer
You wanna rhyme? Fill out this W-9
Sign below the dotted line, now your publishing's mine

Jason Scott

11-18-2002, 09:51 AM

Les do a colabo, I Think Im prtty good. Im putting togethger a whole bunch of songs for my demo (got like 6). IF someone wants to try a colb let me know. Use the PM.

Jay

Immortal

11-18-2002, 10:03 AM

Anyone listened to Outkast - ATLiens - that is an amazing lyrical CD right there.

Has anyone seen Ja Rule's new CD cover? Damn he is such a 2Pac ripoff.

Master P was ok. Im Bout It and Ghetto Dope were pretty tight. The rest of his sh*t sucks.

N_tenseLifter88

11-18-2002, 01:02 PM

tupac
eminem
busta rhymes
outkast
jayZ
mystikal
snoopdogg
DR.DRE

FATHER FLEX

11-18-2002, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Immortal
Has anyone seen Ja Rule's new CD cover? Damn he is such a 2Pac ripoff.

Do you know of any of his old songs from back in the day. I heard he sounded very different to what he sounds like now.

Same thing with DMX...have you ever heard born loser (93') he sounds nothing like the DMX of today. You wouldn't believe it at all.

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-18-2002, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by FATHER FLEX
Do you know of any of his old songs from back in the day. I heard he sounded very different to what he sounds like now.

Same thing with DMX...have you ever heard born loser (93') he sounds nothing like the DMX of today. You wouldn't believe it at all.

yeah its true, ja rules voice is nothing more than a good marketing move. if you listen to his older stuff when he was with a group called Cash Money Click, he doesnt have that raspy voice that he has now.

DMX is pretty much the same story. he started barking like a moron and the kiddies started eatin it up

beatphats

11-18-2002, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by 2Rude4MyOwnGood
yeah its true, ja rules voice is nothing more than a good marketing move. if you listen to his older stuff when he was with a group called Cash Money Click, he doesnt have that raspy voice that he has now.

DMX is pretty much the same story. he started barking like a moron and the kiddies started eatin it up

You know what's another thing that changes their voices... All the weed smoking, I'm sure they've smoked alot more after they got paid. And DMX was a well known crackhead from back in the days. My boy even said that's why he came out with two albums (his first two) almost back to back 'cause he kicked up the habit. IMO, I'm still half and half if this is true or not.... Even listen to Biggie, he sounds totally different from his first album, than he does on Life After Death, and on Born Again, I could tell what were his earlier rhymes compared to later ones.

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-18-2002, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by beatphats
You know what's another thing that changes their voices... All the weed smoking, I'm sure they've smoked alot more after they got paid. And DMX was a well known crackhead from back in the days. My boy even said that's why he came out with two albums (his first two) almost back to back 'cause he kicked up the habit. IMO, I'm still half and half if this is true or not.... Even listen to Biggie, he sounds totally different from his first album, than he does on Life After Death, and on Born Again, I could tell what were his earlier rhymes compared to later ones.

i dont think that smoking herb is gonna change someones voice THAT much. if that were true, there would be a lot of people with a voice like ja rule. in my eyes its nothing more than clever marketing. the sissy boy voice wasnt selling records so they slapped a little grimey voice on him and presented him to the public.

RAEKWON201

11-18-2002, 06:39 PM

check it out

1.canibus
2.big pun
3.rass kass
4.nas
5.gza
6.chino xl
7.rakim
8.guru
9.az
10.eminem

FATHER FLEX

11-18-2002, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by 2Rude4MyOwnGood
i dont think that smoking herb is gonna change someones voice THAT much. if that were true, there would be a lot of people with a voice like ja rule. in my eyes its nothing more than clever marketing. the sissy boy voice wasnt selling records so they slapped a little grimey voice on him and presented him to the public.

I think this has so much with pac's passing. With no Pac around you can get away with that ****. I don't if you noticed this, but rappers are trying to show more and more charisma when on the mic. Same with the voice thing, and since most of the public is stupid, they eat it up. Kind of like all those Beatle wanna bitters.

2Rude4MyOwnGood

11-18-2002, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by FATHER FLEX
I think this has so much with pac's passing. With no Pac around you can get away with that ****. I don't if you noticed this, but rappers are trying to show more and more charisma when on the mic. Same with the voice thing, and since most of the public is stupid, they eat it up. Kind of like all those Beatle wanna bitters.

yeah im not a fan of those damn fake brittish pop bands either. the strokes, the hives, the vines. . .they all suck

kobe19

11-18-2002, 08:59 PM

TUPAC!!!!!!!!

esko71

12-13-2002, 08:31 AM

2pac....nobody comes close

Steinkalt

12-13-2002, 11:42 AM

Dead One's!

beatphats

12-13-2002, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Big Daddy Shane
To the dude that said Big Pun out-shone every artist he ever rapped with, I have to make an exception; "When I Die", by Krayzie Bone, feat Big Pun, Fat Joe and Cuban Linx. As good as big punisher is, he is shadowed by Krayzie Bone. In fact, I'm yet to hear a song where Krayzie Bone is out-rapped. Sorry bro, but there is someone better than big pun. Anthony Anderson, take a bow!

Other artists worth mentioning:

Eminem: As whack as he may be, he's got some undeniably talented writing skills.

Bone Thugs n Harmony; Just awesome.

Ice Cube: Back in the early 90's, he was the king of hip hop. Listen to "The Predator", "Amerikkkas most wanted", or "Death Certificate", and you'll see why.

2pac: Great rapper, and a good writer. not the best though.

Cypress Hill: Listen to "black sunday" or "Stoned Raiders" and you'll see why I mentioned these guys. Excellent flow, great lyrics, and they actually make weed sound 'cool'.

I'll post more as I think of them.
BDS

I didn't want to comment on this until I heard this song. I just have to say that it's not fair to compare Kraysie and Pun on that song because Pun only spits like 10 bars, while Kraysie spits about 100. Listen to one of Pun's longer verses like Leatherface or Dreamshatterer, both of which got " Best Verse of the Month" from The Sourse.

And think about it, if you battling someone, would you rather sound like Pun or Kraysie??

Tee

12-13-2002, 04:08 PM

Tupac
Nas
Notorious BIG
Eminem

oxide

12-26-2002, 03:53 PM

How did everyone forget about ODB

Im dope like Heroine

also cant forget about method man

Al Bundy

12-27-2002, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by oxide
How did everyone forget about ODB

Lemme see....because he's ****.

The only good rapper is a dead rapper.

BBwant2getBIG

12-27-2002, 07:37 AM

Tupac Shakur a.k.a. (2 pac & Makaveli) Is the best rapper who ever lived ! A LEGEND - NO ONE WILL EVER COMPLETE WIV HIM

ROCK CRUSHER

12-27-2002, 09:07 AM

best storyteller/lyricists~

TUPAC
B.I.G.
of the new sKool EMINEM (hate to say it)

best political~

PUBLIC ENEMY

best freestyle~

BUSTA - hands down (heard busta freestyle 15min. on the radio)

most influence~

NWA - father of gangst rap

best voices-

CHUCK D - ole skool
DMX - new skool

bigliftsCNU

12-27-2002, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by Steinkalt
Dead One's!

LOL...

ftblplayer15

12-27-2002, 11:58 AM

BEST SUPER DUPER LYRICAL FLAMBOYANT RAPPER EVERY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH!

isn't there enough of these stupid ****in threads?

pz

TranceNRG

12-27-2002, 05:08 PM

Did I mention Eminem in here ?

if not then

EMINEM

CreatineMan

12-27-2002, 05:12 PM

i think i am

siccmade

01-03-2003, 10:25 PM

1) 2pac
2) Eazy-E
3) Eminem
4) Bone Thugs
5) P.I.G (donb't like um but hes good)
6)Dr. Dre
7) Snoop
8) Andre Nickatina
9) Spice1
10) E-40

fsufanatik

01-03-2003, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by thegamecdr
He was until Eminem came along..

now that was a f'ing joke!

fsufanatik

01-03-2003, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by CASE
In this order...
2Puc
Eminem
Naz
jayz

Must be some young guns not to mention Rakim

wanna hump?

01-07-2003, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Lil Chris
2pac

missy sounds alright, but we are talking best LYRICAL rappers here. ever heard work it? she rhymes everything with "ya" and then goes ra ta ta ta, ta ta ta ta ta ta

Ju$tin

01-07-2003, 03:30 PM

Best lyrical artists

1Nas
2Rakim

Best Flow

1Jay-Z
2Notorious Big

Fav Artist

12Pac
2Nas

MightyMouse

01-07-2003, 03:33 PM

In my opinion 2pac was far better then anyone I have ever heard. Please don't get me started with nas as I can't listen to anything he has written for more then 5 seconds. I have lost all respect for the likes of JayZ and Ja Rule...2pac will for ever live on...

And to add to the small list of his songs that have true meaning in them..off the top of my head..

When Thugs Cry
They don't give a **** about us
Never see Peace
My Block (If you haven't heard this song, and are saying he doesn't have meaning, try listening to it, it will change your mind)
Thug Mansion
Better Dayz
Just to name a few...And for the those who love his songs that go after people...Try...

When we ride on our enemies
****'m all
and his duet with Trick daddy...can't remember the name though

Getting back into it
Mighty

Ju$tin

01-07-2003, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by MightyMouse

When we ride on our enemies
****'m all
and his duet with Trick daddy...can't remember the name though

Its called Still Ballin

MightyMouse

01-07-2003, 03:56 PM

Oh just to add another...Try listening to 96 Bonnie and Clyde

The one that Jay Z ripped off...

He is not singing about a girl...Too bad Jay Z had to ruin the song and change the words to be about some girl and rip 2pac off...

Getting back into it
Mighty

bigliftsCNU

01-07-2003, 04:09 PM

i dont know much about rap... but i will say this.. i dont think anyone can say eminem is the best...... or one of the best... lets wait and see how long he does this for.....

its just like you cant say tiger woods is the best golfer ever.... he hasnt played long enough to be called that

siccmade

01-07-2003, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by MightyMouse

He is not singing about a girl...Too bad Jay Z had to ruin the song and change the words to be about some girl and rip 2pac off...

Getting back into it
Mighty

Yo I was wonderin what is he talkin about? i heard that song a few times

Jay

01-07-2003, 07:25 PM

Biggie

Tupac

Cypress Hill

Dre/Snoop

Bone Thugs and Harmony

Those are the bestones, none of this new ****. Eminem, Jay Z, is alright, just don't think hes as good as these guys...

Jay

fsufanatik

01-07-2003, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by siccmade
Yo I was wonderin what is he talkin about? i heard that song a few times

Toni Braxton has the same chorus out on her new single as well..

bigliftsCNU

01-07-2003, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by bigliftsCNU
i dont know much about rap... but i will say this.. i dont think anyone can say eminem is the best...... or one of the best... lets wait and see how long he does this for.....

its just like you cant say tiger woods is the best golfer ever.... he hasnt played long enough to be called that

does anyone else agree??

DJ Sina

01-07-2003, 07:50 PM

dammit TUPAC!!!!! 2pac!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahhhh

beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

of course tupac

TUPAC was rapping bout real stuff instead of how rich.

he rapped about everything tho

and his lyrics were so beautiful

Jay

01-07-2003, 08:08 PM

Too bad him and Big never resolved there beef......

Jay

RAEKWON201

01-07-2003, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by RAEKWON201
check it out

1.canibus
2.big pun
3.rass kass
4.nas
5.gza
6.chino xl
7.rakim
8.guru
9.az
10.eminem

bump

bigliftsCNU

01-07-2003, 08:16 PM

what was the "beef" between the two?

fsufanatik

01-07-2003, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by bigliftsCNU
does anyone else agree??

agreed! 2 albums does not say who is the greatest of all time! He is the flavor for right now, as was Jay-Z before him, and Big and Pac before him, and so on..... Longevity and consistency will tell if he is the greatest....

Not to knock him though, cause I have to give him props on his skills!

MightyMouse

01-07-2003, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by siccmade
Yo I was wonderin what is he talkin about? i heard that song a few times

If you want to know what he was talking about...it was his gun...listen to the song and think of a gun every time he describes her and her actions..talking about leaving "her" loaded...and finishing with "I love you black or chrome"....Its amazing when you listen and think about it how what sounds like things that happen with girlfriends can be understood with his gun..

More lyrics...

"Maybe .45 but she still live.....Picked you up when you were .9, bought you some shells when you turned .22"

"Sleep with you loaded by my bed side"

"I love finger f***** you, all of a sudden I'm hearing thunder when you bust a nut, n***** be ducken"

"Never leave a n**** alone, I love you black or chrome"

The whole song is full of these connections..Just listen to it and you'll understand. And you should lose all respect for what JayZ did to the song. I would post my thoughts but I don't feel like typing all stars....

Getting back into it
Mighty

bigliftsCNU

01-07-2003, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by fsufanatik
agreed! 2 albums does not say who is the greatest of all time! He is the flavor for right now, as was Jay-Z before him, and Big and Pac before him, and so on..... Longevity and consistency will tell if he is the greatest....

Not to knock him though, cause I have to give him props on his skills! see... im not a bad guy :D

fsufanatik

01-07-2003, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by bigliftsCNU
see... im not a bad guy :D

I know but a lil internet fight once in awhile doesnt hurt either...lol

bigliftsCNU

01-08-2003, 07:03 AM

gets the old blood and test. pumping! :D :D

Antigravity

01-08-2003, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by bigliftsCNU
what was the "beef" between the two?

Pac thought that Biggie set up the shooting in '94.

bigliftsCNU

01-08-2003, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Antigravity
Pac thought that Biggie set up the shooting in '94.

sorry your going to have to fill me in all the way... i dont know anything

ROCK CRUSHER

01-08-2003, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by bigliftsCNU
sorry your going to have to fill me in all the way... i dont know anything

you know you not really interested in that RAP sh*t

Jay

01-08-2003, 05:23 PM

He will do anything to get his post count up, i guess it makes him cool.....

Jay

BIG BROWN K

12-27-2003, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by Jay
Too bad him and Big never resolved there beef......

Jay

:(

Fortress

12-27-2003, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by Big Daddy Shane
[BI can't believe they were actually going to replace the late Eazy E with Snoop. Snoop was still sucking on his momma's titties when E was rappin about "Boyz N tha hood".
BDS. [/B]

Lol

bobbo23

12-27-2003, 09:21 PM

First off, there are some many lyrical greats out there these days. You really got to start off with wu (mainly RZA and GZA) these mother****ers along with meth inspectah and the other million mother****ers from wu-tang displayed some of the most complex intricately designed rhyme schemes and patterns displayed too this day.
But when you really think about it, a lot of the rapper who started using simile's and metaphors were really feeding off big daddy kane (RAW was the ****.) Then as the 90's progressed you had the east coast and west coast rivalry. Although the west was on top, the east still had it locked down lyrically. Although i Love 2pac and the death row era, 2pac cannot touch biggie lyrically, but flow wise and emotion wise WHICH IS WHAT RAP IS ALL ABOUT 2pac wins hands down. Kurupt along with ras kass was 2 of the few west coast MC's that had the game locked down lyrically. The west was mainly brought into the game cuz of the g-funk era and that "i dont give a **** style" (compliments of NWA and reinforced by 2pac). Right now, a long of people have fallen off. Eminem is still tight as ****, but you can't say he is as good as he was 2 or 3 years ago (50 has him thinkin he a tuff guy). Lloyd bankz and jae millz are KILLING the mixtapes right now with punchline after punchline. But, as much as he was black balled and hated on, the homie canibus only got better and better... rip the jacker was by far one of the best albums this year. Jay-z and Nas are both up there for there story telling abilities but they lack the hard hitting MC punchlines and metaphors that canibus and that breed of MCs carry. Big L would have been the best to ever do it if the kid stayed around long enough, and big pun was headed up there 2 (RIP 2 both of them) all and all, there are a lot of talent out there right now and a lot of talent that was untouchable but fell off over years. Rakim ... speaks for itself.. u can call him God.

1. Wu Tang (RZA GZA mainly) tied with rakim
2. Canibus
3. Eminem
4. Jay-Z
5. Nas
6. Kurupt
7. Big L
8. Big Pun
9 Ras Kass
10 Biggie

^strictly based on lyrical substance. if you asked me about the greatest rappers of all time... hands down ur top 4 have to contain nas jay-z biggie and 2pac, and if it doesn't, ur not a hip hop fan. period

PaperChaser

01-03-2004, 10:26 PM

To the poster above, Jay-Z lacks punchlines. Dude practically mastered it. Heres a few from Young Hova.

"*****s don't get the PICTURE until the guns is DRAWN"

"Cats get envious/ its ted-i-ous/so I keep one eye open like CBS"

Download the song 22 Two's by Jay-Z. Tell me dude don't have punchlines.

Thats his wack ****. Check out Reasonable Doubt, Vol 3, Blueprint, and The Black Album all certified classics for more Jay.

PaperChaser

01-03-2004, 10:31 PM

Sorry for singling you out but your post was the last of the many stupid ones I read. The only west coast artist that should be mentioned in a top ten of anything lyrically rap related are Pac, Cube and Ras Kass. Biggie is top 5 dead or alive. This is fact. Show me a Kurupt line that outdoes

"Biggie Smalls, the rap hippopatamus/u being better than me thats proposterous/"

Not So Big

01-03-2004, 10:39 PM

im not gonna read all 5 pages of this to see if anyone posted this yet... but

Immortal technique

if u listen to his lyrics there seriously ridiculusly crazy

download immortal tehcnique - dance with the devil

its a long song but still its amazing.. about his life kinda and then raping someone to proove to his boys he is down and everythin and then finds out its his mother, just download anything from him u will be amazed

AnabolicPhyscho

01-03-2004, 11:49 PM

in no particular order but eminem and LL cool J are the top 2 mcs all time in my book

eminem -Every1 knows this mans talent,eminem and d12 have to be among the sickest rap games alltime, i recommend hearing stir crazy,

llcoolj-seriously underated, i mean aside from his ladies man side, this guy is tough, DEEP BLUE SEA IS GANGSTA, I mean he beat a couple of the games top cats at the time, CANNIBUS was
underground at the time but we knew the deal, and KOOL MOE DEE was a top cat at the time.
the rest no particulaar order

2pac-was a legend, not the greatest rhymes but he was a real cat.

jaz -as so much talent but he doesnt know how to use it and his new joints is corny, hes very versatile and nice own style
militant " YES SIR" i love his style, his lyrics are corny at times. but sometimes he can be quite fake, i saw him in rap city he had to kick a free, and this dude was rapping skits off the black album which proved as a freestyler hes fake he didnt have shyt, and when he got embbarrased he kicked some lame corny ish.
my teeniebopper cuzins, say he is promoting his albums, I was like goddamn what a teenie bopper,its obviously hes not a real cat, but his rhymes regardless of who wrote it can be impressive at times. "

BIG PUN -ad crazy flow, but his lyrics are a little all talk no walk.

JADAKISS-PROBABLY THE BEST BEHIND EMINEM AND CASSIDY CURRENTLY IN THE GAME WITH CRAZY PUNCHLINES

mase-what can i say this guy was as talented as anyone and had nice lines and flow. mase "the pastor" what a mistake he dissapointed me.

SHYNE-what can i say this guys voice was unique he was talented he deserved better than puff did him,nice lines.

biggie was ahead of his time too but im not a big fan of his,unless at parties, i dont reallly bump his stuff.

gunit and that pop crze its ridiculous, there ok to bump at a party, but among taking them seriously there a joke, everytime i hear there freestyles i hear them freeing skits off there albums its rediculous.

nas first album was hot ahead of its time, but later on his albums got repitive he never advanced he got boring, no more life story he got pop and stil lwas whack, and one of his main singles were sampled from pacs.

method man and red man were ahead of there time, at there prime but only redman has progressed lyrically throughout there respective careers.

now my queen cats all had talent, az mobb deep cannibus dmc nature and treech these cats were all aight at one time, not the best all time but at some point they looked like they would merge as the best , but were 2ghetto too emerge nationwide.

im a lil wasted right now, with my list, ill edit and post more as i remember.

Not So Big

01-03-2004, 11:58 PM

i agree with u that shyne is real good, and i think he kinda sounded like biggie but i wouldnt say hes best lyricial raper of all time.

Uber-neggR

01-04-2004, 08:33 AM

NAS
SHYNE.

whoever disagrees with nas is nutz, and however disagrees with shyne hasn't heard all his tracks and poetries.

Fortress

01-04-2004, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Not So Big
i agree with u that shyne is real good, and i think he kinda sounded like biggie but i wouldnt say hes best lyricial raper of all time.

Agreed.

Euthanasia

01-04-2004, 11:02 AM

Pac
Big
Immortal Technique
Canibus
Eminem

The Mayor

01-04-2004, 11:14 AM

BIG PUN

[Big Punisher]
Ready for war Joe, how you wanna blow they spot
I know these dirty cops that'll get us in if we murder some wop
Hop in your Hummer, the Punisher's ready; meet me at Beatles'
with Noodles, we'll do this dude while he's slurpin spaghetti
Everybody kiss the ****in floor, Joey Crack, buck em all
If they move, Noodles shoot that ****in whore
Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily

[Fat Joe]
It'll be a cold day in hell the day I'll take an L
Make no mistake for real I wouldn't hesitate to kill
I'm still the Fat One that you love to hate, catch you at your mother's wake
Smack you then I wack you with my snub trey-eight

[Big Punisher]
I rub your face off the Earth and curse your family children
like Amityville drill the nerves in your cavity fillin
Insanity's building up pavillion in my civilian
The cannon be the anarchy that humanity's dealing
A villain without remorse, who's willing to out your boss
Forever and take all the cheddar like child support

[Fat Joe]
I support Pun in anything he does, anything he loves
My brother from another mother sent from the above
A thug ***** just like me, one of the best -- might be
Even better leavin *****z kneelin on they right knee

[Big Punisher]
Spike Lee couldn't paint a better picture
You small change, I'm blowin out your brains gettin richer

[Fat Joe]
Hit you with the Mac (Mac), smack your bitch, ***** what?
You gettin stuck, my trigger finger's itchy as a ****!

[Big Punisher]
Trunk jewels (jewels), cruisin in the Land, pumpin 'Cash Rules'
Last crew to want it caught a hundred tryin to pass through

[Fat Joe]
That's true, so who the next to get it?
TS is the best that did it (get it off your chest kid admit it)

Chorus: Pun, Joe

[Pun] And it's
[Joe] Here, and you don't stop!
[Pun] Twenty shot glock with the cop killer fill em to the top
[Joe] Yeah, and you don't stop!
[Pun] Joey Crack's the rock, and Big Pun keeps the guns cocked
[Joe] Yeah, and you don't stop!
[Pun] We'll make it hot *****, what bring it I blow your whole spot
[Joe] Yeah, and you don't stop!
[Pun] It's still one-eight-seven on an undercover cop!

[Big Punisher]
**** the po-lice, I squeeze first, make em eat dirt
Take em feet first through the morgue, then launch em in the T-bird
The street's cursed, the first amendment's culturally biased
Supposed to supply us with rights, tonight I hold my rosary
tight as I can, I'm one man against the world, just me and my girl
Black Pearl Athena my sena who keeps it real
You know the deal, we steal from the rich and keep it
Peep it it's no secret, watch me and Joe go back and forth and freak it

[Fat Joe]
Creep with me, as I cruise in my Beemer
All the kids in the ghetto call me Don Cartagena
Kickin ass as I blast off heat, and
you never see me talk to police, so
you should know that I really don't care
Pull you by the hair, slit your throat, and I'll leave you right there
So beware it's rare that *****z want beef, Big Pun speak
and let these mother****ers know how we run the streets

[Big Punisher]
**** peace, I run the streets deep with no compassion, Puerto Ricans
known for slashin catchin *****z while they sleepin, no relaxin
Keep your eyes open, sharp reflexes
Three techses in the Jeep Lexus just in case police ask us
Street professors, Terror Squad, ghetto scholars
Fill the clips off, inflicts the fear of God when the metal hollers
Better acknowledge or get knocked down until I'm locked and shot down
Heather B couldn't make me put my Glock Down

[Fat Joe]
We lock towns like rounds in the chamber
Boogie Down major like Nine, I bust mine
everytime plus I'm the crime boss of New York
When we talk to walk the walk all my *****z carry chalk
and stalk, I prey like The Predator, whoever want it
go and get it set it baby and I'ma bury ya
So remember the Squad that I'm reppin
I pull a clip for my weapon and Punish *****z till it's armaggedeon

Not So Big

01-04-2004, 02:12 PM

*IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE FREESTYLE *

[Diabolic]
Go ahead and grip glocks
I'll snap your trigger finger in six spots
You'll have to lip lock with hypodermic needles to lick shots
I'll watch you topple flat
Put away your rings and holla back
Can't freestyle, you're screwed off the top like bottle caps
Beneath the surface, I'm over heating your receiving circuits
By unleashing deeper verses than priests speak in churches
What you preach is worthless
Your worship defeat the purpose
Like President Bush taking bullets for the Secret Service
Beyond what ya'll fathom
I **** on cats and jaw tap ‘em
Show no compassion like having a straight faced orgasm
Tour jack ‘em, have his half a ten bitch suck my friend's dick
In the mean time, you can French kiss this clenched fist
Diabolic, a one man brigade spreading cancer plague
This ****ing a pussy's face, holding a hand grenade
So if I catch you bluffin'
***got, you're less than nothing
I just had to get that stress off my chest like breast reduction

[Technique]
You mother ****ers are nothing
You cannot harm me
I'll resurrect every aborted baby and start an army
Storm the planet hunting you down cuz I'm on a mission
To split your body into a billion one-celled organisms
Immortal Technique will destroy your religion you stupid bitch
You're faker than blue-eyed crackers nailed to a crucifix
I'm bout to blow up like Nasa Challenger computer chips
Arsenic language transmitted revolutionarily
I'm like time itself, I'm gunna kill you inevitably
Chemically bomb you, **** using a chrome piece
I'm Illmatic, you won't make it home like Jerome's niece
I'll sever your head diagonally for thinking of dissin' me
And then ill use your dead body to write my name in calligraphy
This public democracy, brain washed your psychology
So you're nothing like diversity without equality
And your crew is full of more ***gots than Greek mythology
Using numerology, to count the people I sent to Heaven
Produces more digits than 22 divided by 7
You're like Kevin Spacey, your style is usually suspect
You never killed a cop, you not a mother ****ing thug yet
Your mind is empty and spacious
Like the part of the brain the appreciated culture in a racist
Face it, you too basic, you're never gunna make it
Like children walking through Antarctica, butt naked

Not So Big

01-04-2004, 02:19 PM

i wanted to post this one verse from immortal technique because its a real good one

Yo, yo, lyrically I'm infinite like possibilities
But you don't have the capability like infertility
Cuz opening your mouth to question my validity
Is like trying to contradict the theory of relativity
When I spit is the epitome of heavy artillery
My enemies are obsessed with me like the bitch in Misery
But break out like father running form responsibility
Every time I step and abuse the mic with versatility
I balance humility, with brutal instinct
I'll make your whole cypher look like those crackers from N'Sync
And I don't care about your link, or your luxury car
I shed light with more magnitude than all of the stars
My breyon talk pick thick
So don't ever talk ****
And remember something *****, while you rave and rant
A roach can live for nine days without its head but you can't

Automobile

01-04-2004, 02:45 PM

Yukmouth

Eazy E

Pac

Nasir

mc ren

big L

Tech N9ne

Etc...

I don't even Know why so many people said eminem is the greatest rapper ever:rolleyes:

Automobile

01-04-2004, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Not So Big
i wanted to post this one verse from immortal technique because its a real good one

Yo, yo, lyrically I'm infinite like possibilities
But you don't have the capability like infertility
Cuz opening your mouth to question my validity
Is like trying to contradict the theory of relativity
When I spit is the epitome of heavy artillery
My enemies are obsessed with me like the bitch in Misery
But break out like father running form responsibility
Every time I step and abuse the mic with versatility
I balance humility, with brutal instinct
I'll make your whole cypher look like those crackers from N'Sync
And I don't care about your link, or your luxury car
I shed light with more magnitude than all of the stars
My breyon talk pick thick
So don't ever talk ****
And remember something *****, while you rave and rant
A roach can live for nine days without its head but you can't

Can you name some specific songs from immortal technique