View Full Version : Anyone have a concealed carry weapon?
Uncle Bob
02-28-2006, 03:53 PM
What do you carry and why did you pick it to possibly save your life?
When I'm out in the woods, camping, or boating I sometimes carry my S&W J-frame 642. I like the durability of a revolver and feel .38+P does the job just fine (I didn't have the money to buy a snub .357). When I'm at Wal*Mart at three in the morning I like to have my Kel-Tec P32 on me. It's no manstopper, but it's so concealable and light that you don't mind carrying it anywhere. Personally I don't think I'll ever need to use it to save my life (statisticswise) so I feel fine with .32ACP. Just unload the gun and run, basically.
spincy
02-28-2006, 03:55 PM
wtf man you go strapped to walmart? I just carry a switchblade when I'm on the outside and such....but not in stores.
Uncle Bob
02-28-2006, 04:07 PM
Not for Wal*Mart, it's the parking lot.
974g63awd
02-28-2006, 04:09 PM
Ruger p345
Ed Brown 1911 (calif. cert. model w/ 25 lpi checkering) just purchased
Model 637 .38 S&W (chiefs special)
Reason why I have/carry them...Its my right as a US citizen to. I don't go hunting. Just to protect myself and family.
resurrected
02-28-2006, 04:16 PM
I carry for protection and have a permit. I either carry a SW .38 special, or a .45 depending on the place I need to go to. I go from place to place and sometimes carry a few thousand dollars a day with me. I have been jumped once and that was all it took.
Oh and yes I carry everywhere even walmart
jsa19
02-28-2006, 04:21 PM
concealed weapon every time i put my shirt on
House72
02-28-2006, 04:28 PM
Glock 40 cal.
GREENFEATHER
02-28-2006, 07:03 PM
Sig Sauer P220 in .45 ACP or my Chief's Special. I carry everyday, everywhere.
vincenthk
02-28-2006, 07:24 PM
Berreta 92F or my Browning Hipower
Togoro
02-28-2006, 07:49 PM
I don't carry myself, but my best buddy sure does.
He's got one hell of a pistol. A HK USP .40
He insists it was worth the $900:D
Awesome gun, but i'm not quite convinced on spending that kind of money.
Chipman
03-01-2006, 04:47 AM
S&W model 640 smooth handles.
builttolast
03-01-2006, 04:49 AM
S & W 9MM 5906.
In my boot anytime I have them on, which is anytime I am not at home.
SquirrelMonkey
03-01-2006, 06:03 AM
In the woods- Glock 21
In the car- Glock 23
Mammogramologist
03-01-2006, 01:11 PM
Glock 30
Chewy Bagel
03-01-2006, 01:17 PM
I have a CCW in Arizona.
I carry a .40 Kel-Tec if I go into a bad part of town.
I keep it next to me on my night stand when I'm alseep.
resurrected
03-01-2006, 01:19 PM
I did not post all that I carry, I also have a few smaller surprises up my boot....;)
upslogger19
03-01-2006, 02:26 PM
Either my Glock 23 or Springfield XD-9 Subcompact, or both. I carry all the time.
glock 22(.40), high-capacity magazine...16 hollowpoints
its my duty weapon, and off-duty weapon :)
LEO has carry privaledges throughout the entire US
KUDave
03-01-2006, 11:23 PM
What's the application process and guidlines to carry one?
lebronjames
03-01-2006, 11:47 PM
wow usa is pretty dangerous...
what was the statistics? 1 out of 2 households have a firearm?
id be scared to walk down a street in the states after 6-7pm
resurrected
03-02-2006, 04:38 AM
wow usa is pretty dangerous...
what was the statistics? 1 out of 2 households have a firearm?
id be scared to walk down a street in the states after 6-7pm
Uh no it is the citizens owning weapons that make it a safer place.
I suppose we could be like canada and then only the criminls would own a gun. Then we could rely on the police to protect us.
Snoopis
03-02-2006, 06:23 AM
I have Para Ordnance Tac Four, which is a 1911-style dual-action only pistol, double-stack. Nothin' like 13+1rds of .45ACP. I don't carry it yet though, the damn thing jams all the time. I'm hoping to do a little work to it soon, and if that doesn't work I'll probably get a Sig.
PS, why are we talking about carry weapons in Outdoor Recreation?
Morpheus16
03-02-2006, 06:40 AM
Either my Glock 23 or Springfield XD-9 Subcompact, or both. I carry all the time.
I'm thinking about getting an XD Subcompact in .40, and I have a couple questions. I shoot left-handed, is the magazine release reversible or ambidextrous? If not, would it be difficult for a lefty to press the release with the trigger finger?
AbramsM1
03-02-2006, 07:53 AM
I have my concealed carry permit. Just got it about a month ago. Primarily I use it to carry a Ruger .44 while hunting (under the shoulder). But it's nice to have so I can carry on fishing, hunting, and canoe trips as well. It was like 10 hours of classroom, then an hour of shooting, a background check, and then you're good to go.
Regards,
Abrams
bassing68
03-03-2006, 07:39 AM
What do you carry and why did you pick it to possibly save your life?
When I'm out in the woods, camping, or boating I sometimes carry my S&W J-frame 642. I like the durability of a revolver and feel .38+P does the job just fine (I didn't have the money to buy a snub .357). When I'm at Wal*Mart at three in the morning I like to have my Kel-Tec P32 on me. It's no manstopper, but it's so concealable and light that you don't mind carrying it anywhere. Personally I don't think I'll ever need to use it to save my life (statisticswise) so I feel fine with .32ACP. Just unload the gun and run, basically.
NO. I live in Fascistland, I mean Illinois where it is a felony to carry weapon unless you are a gestapo.
Hartski
03-03-2006, 08:10 AM
I have Para Ordnance Tac Four, which is a 1911-style dual-action only pistol, double-stack. Nothin' like 13+1rds of .45ACP. I don't carry it yet though, the damn thing jams all the time. I'm hoping to do a little work to it soon, and if that doesn't work I'll probably get a Sig.
PS, why are we talking about carry weapons in Outdoor Recreation?
That's the problem with double stack 1911s. A little work on the feed ramp should help out quite a bit. Talk to people that use double stack 1911's for IDPA and other competitive shooting. They'll have the problem fixed because jamming in a competition assures a loss.
Thin Build
03-03-2006, 10:07 AM
i carry a desert eagle 50 cal
Hartski
03-03-2006, 10:33 AM
i carry a desert eagle 50 cal
No you don't.
Chipman
03-03-2006, 10:38 AM
i carry a desert eagle 50 cal
You carry an 50 cal desert eagle as a concealed weapon. Is it the 8,10, or 14 inch barrell.
Where and how do you conceal it? I can see it taking 5 seconds to get through all the shirts, vests, and carry holster to get to that thing.
Wouldn't a gun that large (3.5) pounds be a burden when you have to whip it out as they say?
Is that your final answer
Chipman
03-03-2006, 10:40 AM
No you don't.
I was just trying to be nice Hartski, but I like you desert eagle answer better. right to the point.
lebronjames
03-03-2006, 06:37 PM
Uh no it is the citizens owning weapons that make it a safer place.
I suppose we could be like canada and then only the criminls would own a gun. Then we could rely on the police to protect us.
id very much prefer
less people with guns > more people with guns "to protect themselves from each other"
Chipman
03-04-2006, 04:09 AM
id very much prefer
less people with guns > more people with guns "to protect themselves from each other"
I prefer more people with guns and here's why. These are not my words mut they are my beliefs. The authors words are below.
Question: It just seems to defy common sense that crimes likely to involve guns would be reduced by allowing more people to carry guns. How do you explain the results?
John R. Lott, Jr.
John R. Lott, Jr. is a resident scholar at American Enterprise Institute. He was previously the John M. Olin Visiting Law and Economics Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School.
Lott: Criminals are deterred by higher penalties. Just as higher arrest and conviction rates deter crime, so does the risk that someone committing a crime will confront someone able to defend him or herself. There is a strong negative relationship between the number of law-abiding citizens with permits and the crime rate—as more people obtain permits there is a greater decline in violent crime rates. For each additional year that a concealed handgun law is in effect the murder rate declines by 3 percent, rape by 2 percent, and robberies by over 2 percent.
Concealed handgun laws reduce violent crime for two reasons. First, they reduce the number of attempted crimes because criminals are uncertain which potential victims can defend themselves. Second, victims who have guns are in a much better position to defend themselves.
bassing68
03-04-2006, 06:19 AM
I carry the single shot wad shooter with a 7 inch barell.
lebronjames
03-04-2006, 11:09 AM
I prefer more people with guns and here's why. These are not my words mut they are my beliefs. The authors words are below.
Question: It just seems to defy common sense that crimes likely to involve guns would be reduced by allowing more people to carry guns. How do you explain the results?
John R. Lott, Jr.
John R. Lott, Jr. is a resident scholar at American Enterprise Institute. He was previously the John M. Olin Visiting Law and Economics Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School.
Lott: Criminals are deterred by higher penalties. Just as higher arrest and conviction rates deter crime, so does the risk that someone committing a crime will confront someone able to defend him or herself. There is a strong negative relationship between the number of law-abiding citizens with permits and the crime rate—as more people obtain permits there is a greater decline in violent crime rates. For each additional year that a concealed handgun law is in effect the murder rate declines by 3 percent, rape by 2 percent, and robberies by over 2 percent.
Concealed handgun laws reduce violent crime for two reasons. First, they reduce the number of attempted crimes because criminals are uncertain which potential victims can defend themselves. Second, victims who have guns are in a much better position to defend themselves.
yes but what about the kids/other family members?
you hear about those kids on news who go on a shooting spree at their classmates and kill a dozen in about a few seconds
it makes it much more dangerous to society, used for self defense or not
1 out of 2 people owning guns= not good
BobbyZeus
03-04-2006, 11:42 AM
I Carry a Colt Commander in 38 Super. It's a smaller, more compact version from the full size government model. I am not giving up much power with the smaller bbl. Full Size '5, Commander '4.25. 10+1 not bad for the old 1911.
resurrected
03-04-2006, 01:36 PM
yes but what about the kids/other family members?
you hear about those kids on news who go on a shooting spree at their classmates and kill a dozen in about a few seconds
it makes it much more dangerous to society, used for self defense or not
1 out of 2 people owning guns= not good
Those are isolated incidents, The parents may not have taught them about guns. They could also have mental issues.
My kids knows where my guns are and does not touch them. They are not even interested in them.
Gun ownership is a good thing, regardless. In my county alone many times robberies were stopped due to citizens owning guns and carrying them. In Canada they only let you see what they want you to see and the positive side of gun ownership would be too much for them to deal with. This way they keep you under control by injecting fear into you.
Chipman
03-04-2006, 01:51 PM
yes but what about the kids/other family members?
you hear about those kids on news who go on a shooting spree at their classmates and kill a dozen in about a few seconds
it makes it much more dangerous to society, used for self defense or not
1 out of 2 people owning guns= not good
I understand your point Lebronjames, but let me explain my view a bit further and what I am going to say about the kids is going to shock you, those kid killings are not my problem. Yes, they were done by guns and there is nothing that I can do about that.
My reason for carrying is simply to protect my wife and myself. That is it nothing more. If you were being robbed and beaten not more than ten feet from me I would probably do nothing until I was sure my wife was out of danger and then I would probably try to call the police or do nothing to give me time to get away.
The reason I would do that is simply if I ever pull the gun I have there are problems that my license might be taken so I weigh every situation with that in mind. If my gun is gone I can't do my job.
You see my entire reason for carrying is simply (SELF DEFENSE) which includes my wife..I am not a cowboy and I don't carry in case someone else gets in trouble it is all about me and my wife. I know it sounds harsh and it is but it is just the way I look at life.
So having said that I will go back to what the Mr Lott said before if the criminal thinks I have a gun then that gives me an advantage to never have to pull my weapon and use it which brings me back to my other statement. Without my gun I am not ready for that one time when it is all out and my balls are to the wall and I have to use it..
I am sorry if I don't fit into all of your nicely made up little arguments but let me say one more thing society is ****ed up and I didn't do it, but all I ask for is a chance if the **** happens to land on my head again. My gun gives me that chance..sorry if this all sounds paranoid but my wife and I have been the victims of violent crime before and if we had been carrying we both feel neither of us would have had to take a beating and a raping.
Argument over
BobbyZeus
03-04-2006, 03:31 PM
yes but what about the kids/other family members?
you hear about those kids on news who go on a shooting spree at their classmates and kill a dozen in about a few seconds
it makes it much more dangerous to society, used for self defense or not
1 out of 2 people owning guns= not good
What the hell? I thought this was going to be a Pro-Outdoors place.
I am always cool with what u have to say and have positive rep u in many occasion cause of good post. This is bull though.
1 out of 2 people owning guns= not good _____ What the hell? Unless those 1 or 2 people are total nuts, this is bull.
There are far more chances a kid will use his car to run over other kids than using a firearm. Do you want to ban cars all together?
1 out of 2 people owning cars = not good?
Sorry bro, this is bull. One, you let politics get too much to you or your way of thinking is too complex for me.
Chipman
03-04-2006, 04:02 PM
What the hell? I thought this was going to be a Pro-Outdoors place.
I am always cool with what u have to say and have positive rep u in many occasion cause of good post. This is bull though.
1 out of 2 people owning guns= not good _____ What the hell? Unless those 1 or 2 people are total nuts, this is bull.
There are far more chances a kid will use his car to run over other kids than using a firearm. Do you want to ban cars all together?
1 out of 2 people owning cars = not good?
Sorry bro, this is bull. One, you let politics get too much to you or your way of thinking is too complex for me.
I totally agree and I for one am going to stay on track from now on. I don't want to have this turn into one side faces off against the the other side forum..I am sorry and my views will only reflect my thoughts on hunting fishing form here on out..
lebronjames
03-04-2006, 05:55 PM
What the hell? I thought this was going to be a Pro-Outdoors place.
I am always cool with what u have to say and have positive rep u in many occasion cause of good post. This is bull though.
1 out of 2 people owning guns= not good _____ What the hell? Unless those 1 or 2 people are total nuts, this is bull.
There are far more chances a kid will use his car to run over other kids than using a firearm. Do you want to ban cars all together?
1 out of 2 people owning cars = not good?
Sorry bro, this is bull. One, you let politics get too much to you or your way of thinking is too complex for me.
First of all, I do appreciate you posting to say that my opinion is "bull"
yes I would like to defend my family from robbers/gangsters/whatnot
but think of this:
Situation 1:
you get in a heated argument with your neighbour, he gets pissed, goes insides his home and brings out his "gun"
So you quickly get inside, and grab your "gun", to "protect" yourself and possibly others
Situation 2:
you get in a heated argument with your neighbour, he gets pissed off, swear to you for a bit, some fist fight breaks out
both situations are bad, but which situation would be better?
I've even heard of a story on the news where a guy shot a kid for throwing a water balloon at his car. Kid throws water balloon + angry man with gun = dead kid
however, if you take the gun part away, the kid couldve just ran away or something less severe couldve happened
firearms in 1 of 2 households aint as great as you think, why do you think america has one of the highest crime rates in the world?
its got nothing to do with the number of population by the way, its based on ratio
lebronjames
03-04-2006, 06:09 PM
I did research on this subject, so don't think I'm talking out of my ass, bobby hill
My point of view:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada
Guns
One of the most common explanations of the higher violent crime rate in the United States are guns. Gun crimes are far more common in the United States. Only one third of Canadian murders involve firearms compared to two thirds in the States. Guns are far more likely to be used in robberies in the United States. Gun ownership rates are much higher in the United States, especially handguns. Most Canadian weapons are rifles or shot guns owned by farmers and target shooters, and are less likely to be used in crimes. More assault weapons are banned in Canada than the United States. Canada also has a national gun registry. Even before the creation of the national gun registry, the two biggest provinces, Ontario and Quebec had a long history of strict gun controls.
Canada has more guns and fewer controls on them than Western Europe or Japan.
Your point of view:
http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/blanks/081400.htm
In almost all cases, the areas in the U.S. with the fewest gun control laws and highest gun ownership also have the lowest crime levels.
I'm saying that with more people having access to guns, more crimes/bad things would occur,
while you're saying that as more people have access to guns, less crimes would occur due to the ability for you to protect yourself. However, there are more DOWNSIDES in greater gun ownership than a few gun ownership. Example: more likeliness of accidents with firearm, kids/or people who do not know how to treat a gun properly, etc.
To further look at this subject, I'm favoring the general safety of the people in society, while you are favoring the general safety of yourself and your family.
To sum up, different people have different opinions, there's no reason why you have to call my views "bull".
BobbyZeus
03-04-2006, 06:53 PM
I did research on this subject, so don't think I'm talking out of my ass, bobby hill
My point of view:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada
Guns
One of the most common explanations of the higher violent crime rate in the United States are guns. Gun crimes are far more common in the United States. Only one third of Canadian murders involve firearms compared to two thirds in the States. Guns are far more likely to be used in robberies in the United States. Gun ownership rates are much higher in the United States, especially handguns. Most Canadian weapons are rifles or shot guns owned by farmers and target shooters, and are less likely to be used in crimes. More assault weapons are banned in Canada than the United States. Canada also has a national gun registry. Even before the creation of the national gun registry, the two biggest provinces, Ontario and Quebec had a long history of strict gun controls.
Canada has more guns and fewer controls on them than Western Europe or Japan.
Your point of view:
http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/blanks/081400.htm
In almost all cases, the areas in the U.S. with the fewest gun control laws and highest gun ownership also have the lowest crime levels.
I'm saying that with more people having access to guns, more crimes/bad things would occur,
while you're saying that as more people have access to guns, less crimes would occur due to the ability for you to protect yourself. However, there are more DOWNSIDES in greater gun ownership than a few gun ownership. Example: more likeliness of accidents with firearm, kids/or people who do not know how to treat a gun properly, etc.
To further look at this subject, I'm favoring the general safety of the people in society, while you are favoring the general safety of yourself and your family.
To sum up, different people have different opinions, there's no reason why you have to call my views "bull".
I do think you are talking out of your ass. Dude, this is not the "Politics" section. I do see your views as bull. I never go into the "politics" section and argue with people who don't share the same gun values as me. The reason is cause it's a politics section. This is ""NOT"" a ""Politics"" section. We just want to have a good time discussing the things we love. We don't need any Anti-gun views here. U gave me a link with your research, boo hoo. I could give u links that will crush your "research". I am not here to argue with you. I am just here to share my passion for firearms and outdoors. If u don't like it, there is the politics sections. Don't pollute the thread with your ""Beliefs"" if they don't contribute with the subject.
lebronjames
03-04-2006, 07:10 PM
I do think you are talking out of your ass. Dude, this is not the "Politics" section. I do see your views as bull. I never go into the "politics" section and argue with people who don't share the same gun values as me. The reason is cause it's a politics section. This is ""NOT"" a ""Politics"" section. We just want to have a good time discussing the things we love. We don't need any Anti-gun views here. U gave me a link with your research, boo hoo. I could give u links that will crush your "research". I am not here to argue with you. I am just here to share my passion for firearms and outdoors. If u don't like it, there is the politics sections. Don't pollute the thread with your ""Beliefs"" if they don't contribute with the subject.
I did go off topic abit, but there is no reason why you have to be so rude about it. If you think my post had nothing to do with this thread, you could've simply pointed out earlier rather than ragging on my views and then quickly change the subject into saying that it's off topic here.
I don't give a damn if you're an American or not, I don't care if I offended you, but don't call my views bull.
Why are you even talking about the politics section? Every section can have debates you know.
I'd like your links that could "crush" my research, pm me and end this discussion unless you want to "speak out" once again to say how I'm talking nonsense :rolleyes:
BobbyZeus
03-04-2006, 11:10 PM
I did go off topic abit, but there is no reason why you have to be so rude about it. If you think my post had nothing to do with this thread, you could've simply pointed out earlier rather than ragging on my views and then quickly change the subject into saying that it's off topic here.
I don't give a damn if you're an American or not, I don't care if I offended you, but don't call my views bull.
Why are you even talking about the politics section? Every section can have debates you know.
I'd like your links that could "crush" my research, pm me and end this discussion unless you want to "speak out" once again to say how I'm talking nonsense :rolleyes:
I don't think you even know the meaning of the word politics. Plus, I don't even think you got the point of this section and also what I was trying to point out to you.
BobbyZeus
03-04-2006, 11:13 PM
Back to topic,
I don't have a pic of my commander. Here is a pic of another Colt 38 Super I carry at times. This is a full size Colt Government. Now that I moved to CA, I am going to have to apply for a new CCW. Looks like it's going to be a longshot, but oh well.
http://imagecloset.com/8/03030105-colt.jpg
usafspsac
03-05-2006, 02:08 PM
Sig Sauer P225, with 2 spare magazines.
Glock 21 on occasion.
lebronjames
03-05-2006, 02:28 PM
I don't think you even know the meaning of the word politics. Plus, I don't even think you got the point of this section and also what I was trying to point out to you.
Who's talking out of his ass now?
"Let's go back on topic"
I don't carry any concealed weapons.
BobbyZeus
03-05-2006, 02:57 PM
Who's talking out of his ass now?
"Let's go back on topic"
I don't carry any concealed weapons.
Mods take care of this guy. I ended talks with him and went back to the topic, and he keeps running his mouth.
lebronjames
03-06-2006, 10:29 PM
Mods take care of this guy. I ended talks with him and went back to the topic, and he keeps running his mouth.
lol so it ends cause you said so when you're the one who was making a big deal out of it? you're the one with the runny mouth boy and I did stay on topic, i said i do not carry any concealed weapons
GimpyPaw
03-06-2006, 11:53 PM
Let's all remember that there is an "Ignore" feature.
As for me...
Summer - Colt Mustang + 2 SS .380 auto
Winter - Springfield Armory 1911 .38 super
Camping - Smith and Wesson model 627 limited ed. .357 mag
resurrected
03-07-2006, 04:48 AM
Who's talking out of his ass now?
"Let's go back on topic"
I don't carry any concealed weapons.
because at 14 they will not issue a permit.
lebronjames
03-07-2006, 09:11 PM
because at 14 they will not issue a permit.
what are you talking about, im not 14
El Matatan
03-07-2006, 09:18 PM
I hate guns, I carried an M249 SAW for awhile.
resurrected
03-08-2006, 04:43 AM
what are you talking about, im not 14
I know you are not much older than that
Fully dressed it's a Glock 26 with a pearce +2 extender - 13 rounds of 9mm in the piece and 17 rounds in a spare mag.
Jeans and shirt it's a Kahr pm40 - 7 rounds of 40s&w in the piece and 9 rounds in a spare mag.
Beach attire it's an AMT backupII - 6 rounds of .380 in the piece and 5 rounds in a spare mag.
In bear country it's a Ruger Bisley Blackhawk in .44 mag - about the same weight as a combat rifle and about as easy to conceal. :D
Peace,
Geno
lebronjames
03-08-2006, 10:27 PM
I know you are not much older than that
you're a fool to believe that everyone with a concealed weapon has a permit
Uncle Bob
03-13-2006, 12:41 PM
Lebron,
No, people with CCW permits are not "Clint Eastwoods." The point of the permit is for you to carry a weapon in case you are attacked. Unfortunately, in this day and age people who point a gun at you (the bad guys) sometimes do more than take your money. There are actually people out there who kill an innocent person just to prove their 'toughness' to a gang they are trying to get in. I value my life and I want a fighting chance if I ever have a gun pulled on me, because I am not a mind reader. I don't know if the assailant just wants my money or wants my life. My brother was held up at gunpoint so that's plenty of proof to me that this stuff happens. Chances are I will never be a violent crime victim, but if I can lawfully carry, I will do so.
Hartski
03-13-2006, 01:55 PM
A gun is just a tool. I am the weapon.
A gun is just a tool. I am the weapon.
You are so right brother.
974g63awd
03-13-2006, 02:16 PM
id very much prefer
less people with guns > more people with guns "to protect themselves from each other"
Id very much prefer you to STFU. Put down the copy of "bowling for columbine" and do some research please.
974g63awd
03-13-2006, 02:25 PM
A gun is just a tool. I am the weapon.
Perhaps the smartest thing I have heard on this forum in a while.
resurrected
03-14-2006, 06:46 AM
you're a fool to believe that everyone with a concealed weapon has a permit
and your a bigger fool if you beleive you will never need one.
indus.
03-15-2006, 06:21 AM
wow so many of you with guns, i'd be hard pressed to find someone I know with a gun in melbourne, most likely there wouldn't be one. Just a baseball bat for the home for me
notorius1
03-18-2006, 04:55 PM
glock 22(.40), high-capacity magazine...16 hollowpoints
Aren't there different types of hollowpoints?Which is most effective and legal?
KMMuscle24
03-18-2006, 05:11 PM
I carry a knife, everyplace I go I have a knife on me.
GREENFEATHER
03-20-2006, 04:55 PM
Aren't there different types of hollowpoints?Which is most effective and legal?
Here in The People's Republic of Maryland, all hollow points are legal. In all of my carry weapons I use Winchester Black Talons. I saw a guy get shot in the ass with them from an MP-5 and he bled out before we could get him to the hospital. Ultimate justice though, he had just murdered his 2 children and wife.
Chipman
03-20-2006, 05:56 PM
Aren't there different types of hollowpoints?Which is most effective and legal?
I love hydrashocks they just make me feel happy, and to be honest it doesn't matter if you are at 5 yds or under when I pull my little wheel gun I am gonna put 3 rounds out of five in you. That's guaranteed whether you are runnin, jumpin, or floppin like a carp.
Iron Draggin
03-20-2006, 05:59 PM
>SNIP<
I'd like your links that could "crush" my research, pm me and end this discussion unless you want to "speak out" once again to say how I'm talking nonsense :rolleyes:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_percap
Interesting it appears that the U.S. doesn't even make the top 20....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_wit_fir_percap
And hey we are number 8 here with murder by firearm, of course that put us 3 below Mexico which has very, very stringent gun control laws. Also that puts us 11 above Switzerland, which I believe still has the second highest (behind the U.S.) handgun ownership (per capita) in the world.
of course, the upside you have gained by banning guns in Australia, Canada, and the United Kingdom is that your at least twice as lucky to be raped...Woo go for you....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_rap_vic
...and back on topic.
I live in Minnesota, so I don't need to carry concealed. That said I will often carry a Makarov 9mm, or my snubby Taurus .357.
If for some reason I am carrying open I carry my Ruger P97D.
overthehorizon
03-20-2006, 07:36 PM
http://www.csta.from.md/imaging/arme_organice/mari/beretta3032_tomcat.jpg
there's my CC right there, great little gun. So little you barely know she's there.
Ex-Terminator
03-20-2006, 08:03 PM
I'm getting my carry permit on Saturday. Currently, I have a Ruger GP-100 .357 Magnum. Here's one like mine:
http://armeriaptoarg.com.ar/oscommerce/images/gp1003p.jpg
2 3/4-inch barrel, full underlug.
I'm thinking about getting a Para-Ordnance Warthog, like this one:
http://dealerease.net/catalog/images/parapicwhx1045r.jpg
.45 ACP, 10+1 rounds.