when to cut fruit?

[MrV]

Right now I'm 16 + weeks out and have strawberries with my oats. At what in the prep should I be looking at cutting this out of my breakfast and just have my oats with egg whites? I'm slowly decreasing carbs and realize that soon I'm going to be forced to just to keep my daily carb numbers down, considering I still need my sweet potatoes, brown rice, etc. I just wanted to get your thoughts on this...

[str8flexed]

i don't think you ever need to cut it out. I just wouldn't go over 4 servings a day with it

[XTRMEWJ]

Personally, I cut it out when I start my diet. My carbs are almost exclusively oatmeal and yams. The one exception being 20 grams of dextrose postworkout. I try to keep things simple though. Diet is very much an individual thing.

Sean

[MrV]

Personally, I cut it out when I start my diet. My carbs are almost exclusively oatmeal and yams. The one exception being 20 grams of dextrose postworkout. I try to keep things simple though. Diet is very much an individual thing.

Sean

Thanks guys

[Pure-Natural]

I eliminate fruit altogether. Stick w/ yams, brown rice, oats.

[str8flexed]

I eliminate fruit altogether. Stick w/ yams, brown rice, oats.
why?

[reflexions]

why?
good point

[Pure-Natural]

This has been kind of my spin on simple sugars (fast burning sugars):

When we've eaten, the carbohydrates in food get broken down into sugars, which are then absorbed into the blood causing a rise in blood sugar. In response, the hormone insulin is released from the pancreas to remove the sugar from the blood.

Carbohydrate-rich foods with a high glycaemic index, like bagels, cornflakes, white bread and jacket potatoes cause a rapid rise in blood sugar, resulting in the release of a large amount of insulin to deal with this. This causes blood sugar levels to drop rapidly, leaving you lacking in energy, craving more carbs and quickly feeling hungry so that you eat again. If this pattern is frequently repeated, you're likely to gain weight as a result a constantly overeating. But on top of this, over time the body becomes resistant to the action of insulin and when this happens, the body becomes more effective at storing fat - especially around our middle! No surprises then that to lose weight, foods with a high GI are out!

In contrast, carbs with low glycaemic index such as wheat pastas, yams, brown rice, oats release sugar into the blood, providing a steady supply of energy and leaving you feeling satisfied for longer. This means you get fewer carb cravings, don't constantly feel hungry and so are less likely to overeat. Plus there's less chance that your body will become resistant to the effects of insulin with the result that it continues to burn fat efficiently. Foods with a low GI are therefore recommended if you want to lose weight.

The only fruit I consider is bananas but to a certain point.

I maybe wrong but it's just my opinion.

[King Baer]

Nobody ever got diabetic by including fruit in a well-balanced diet... my 2cents.

[lisa1021]

But the the simple carbs are slowed when you eat other foods with it like protein, right?

So it doesn't really matter if it's high GI or low GI....if you're eating protein with the high GI foods.....like a white potato is fine because you eat protein with it...

[maffie2]

why?

Most people are basically low-carbing, why would you consume carbs that won't restock muscle glycogen?

[Vadim Beliaev]

why?

Bro just cause your genetics are awesome, and you can cut up w/o eliminating fruit, doesnt mean its the same for the rest of us, omfg.

[str8flexed]

Bro just cause your genetics are awesome, and you can cut up w/o eliminating fruit, doesnt mean its the same for the rest of us, omfg.

lol, so you can get a peak at my DNA bro omfg...

explain to me... how fruit is soooo much more lipogenic. Please educate me :)

[_FNG_]

lol, so you can get a peak at my DNA bro omfg...

explain to me... how fruit is soooo much more lipogenic. Please educate me :)

Theories and research is great for getting basic information on how things routinely function. However, there is no substitute for first-hand experience and as you were saying earlier about dietary fiber calories it's better to be on the safe side.

[Trapzillaoo7]

still eating fruit here as well. Granted, I don't eat more than 1 or 2 servings in a day and I don't eat it every day but I am still eating it.

Brian

[str8flexed]

Theories and research is great for getting basic information on how things routinely function. However, there is no substitute for first-hand experience and as you were saying earlier about dietary fiber calories it's better to be on the safe side.
there is a difference, i have seen no evidence presented that fruit is anymore lipogenic than any other kind of carbohydrate. High fructose corn syrup is one thing but c'mon you have to present some 'semblence of a theory

as far as experience goes... I'd like to think I have that as well, being that i've done 8 shows & prepared dozens of people for them.

-Layne

[str8flexed]

still eating fruit here as well. Granted, I don't eat more than 1 or 2 servings in a day and I don't eat it every day but I am still eating it.

Brian
moderation is key

[Derek6621]

I can't imagine a day without my morning apple.....precontest or not.

[Marine man]

I think at some point (50g of fructose) fruit does start to be lipogenic but since fruit is mixed sugars you'd have to be eating an assload for that to happen.

moderation is key


This man knows his stuff.

[str8flexed]

I think at some point (50g of fructose) fruit does start to be lipogenic but since fruit is mixed sugars you'd have to be eating an assload for that to happen.



This man knows his stuff.
you'd have to eat around 3-4 servings of fruit to get 50g of fructose... most fruit isn't all fructose.. they are a combination of different sugars.

[aarikc17]

I wouldn't cut fruit out at all, just limit yourself.

If you feel guilty eating fruit then just have like one apple or some serving of fruit after your workout. Just don't eat fruit before bed. Everyone wants to cheat, so if you have an urge to cheat just eat some fruit or something, these are just some ideas I'm throwing out there. I personally wouldn't cut out fruit.

[jannek]

if u feel guilty eating fruit then u have serious issues

[tvicemanXXL]

This has been kind of my spin on simple sugars (fast burning sugars):

When we've eaten, the carbohydrates in food get broken down into sugars, which are then absorbed into the blood causing a rise in blood sugar. In response, the hormone insulin is released from the pancreas to remove the sugar from the blood.

Carbohydrate-rich foods with a high glycaemic index, like bagels, cornflakes, white bread and jacket potatoes cause a rapid rise in blood sugar, resulting in the release of a large amount of insulin to deal with this. This causes blood sugar levels to drop rapidly, leaving you lacking in energy, craving more carbs and quickly feeling hungry so that you eat again. If this pattern is frequently repeated, you're likely to gain weight as a result a constantly overeating. But on top of this, over time the body becomes resistant to the action of insulin and when this happens, the body becomes more effective at storing fat - especially around our middle! No surprises then that to lose weight, foods with a high GI are out!

In contrast, carbs with low glycaemic index such as wheat pastas, yams, brown rice, oats release sugar into the blood, providing a steady supply of energy and leaving you feeling satisfied for longer. This means you get fewer carb cravings, don't constantly feel hungry and so are less likely to overeat. Plus there's less chance that your body will become resistant to the effects of insulin with the result that it continues to burn fat efficiently. Foods with a low GI are therefore recommended if you want to lose weight.

The only fruit I consider is bananas but to a certain point.

I maybe wrong but it's just my opinion.

Sorry I'm late to chime in but I'd also like to point out that most fruits have a low GI - which goes against your argument of cutting them out for that reason. In fact, I know off the top of my head that apples, grapefruit, oranges, and all berries have a lower GI than yams, rice, and oats.

[FhsDeTxFball]

Right now I'm 16 + weeks out and have strawberries with my oats. At what in the prep should I be looking at cutting this out of my breakfast and just have my oats with egg whites? I'm slowly decreasing carbs and realize that soon I'm going to be forced to just to keep my daily carb numbers down, considering I still need my sweet potatoes, brown rice, etc. I just wanted to get your thoughts on this...

right b4 you eat it (=

[yzrider400f]

you can pretty much eat whatever you want as long as the end result is all of your macros being hit correctly