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cambgirl
11-02-2002, 03:04 PM
I decided to get a perm for the first time in like 15 years, about a month ago, since I go on my bf's motorcycle a lot, I thought it would help with bad helmut hair.. hmmm not sure I made a good choice, it looks good when dry, etc but I am now limited to one style. I have longish hair, any idea's, when I blow dry its frizzy looking, and I tend to pull it up.. when my hair was straight I could make it curly when I wanted to or be poker straight when I wanted to, any hair experts out there to give me advice...???

TrishB
11-02-2002, 07:13 PM
LOL......I have had many, many years of coming home from the hair salon and looking in the mirror and saying "Good lord, what was I thinking?"

There are a ton of products out there now that can help you get thru the worse of the perm.
Both the ones that soften a curl and the ones that straighten would help. Get a good quality one though...the cheap ones won't do much but dry out your hair more.
And in a few weeks, the perm will loosen up quite a bit, so you can style a bit easier.

MsFit
11-05-2002, 09:38 AM
Hot rolling it will take the "kink" out too, giving it body and smooth curles. :D
MsFit

cambgirl
11-05-2002, 09:13 PM
I wake around 6.. have to be at work by 7am... no excuses ( I mean when I am on nights I hate when the nurse who is relieving me is late.).. so I get time to have a shower and half assed blow dry my hair pull it up and head into to the ER for 12 hours.. Get a break around 6 hours into it.. look in the mirror and thing OMG.. the poor patients who have seen the frizzz....... but when I am not working not a problem... I put hot rollers in.. and look good... ekkkkkkkkkkkk

Danielle
12-13-2002, 12:39 AM
Quench the Thirst of Frizzy Hair

BY DIANA DUDAS
Copyright 2002
I receive literally hundreds of emails a week. Pertaining to various hair care problems. Most of these emails come for frustrated frizzy haired ladies and gents, from all over the world. It seems like such as mystery" why is my hair so frizzy?”, “What can be done to calm my poofy hair?", Why is my hair so dry?”

Well, in this article I hope to cover some of the main reasons as to why many of us suffer with the affliction better known as THE FRIZZIES! But most of all it has to do with a moisture deficiency!

Oil and Water...

90% of us suffer with dry brittle or frizzy hair because our hair is deficient of (moisture) WATER! There is a certain preconceived notion that has been passed on from generation to generation. That is the idea that our hair is dry, because we are lacking in natural oils. We are told that if we nurture our hair by brushing vigorously 100 times a day, with an all-natural bristle brush, or if we pamper our hair with hot oil treatments or smother out hair with cholesterols. If we do all of these things, then we are sure to be blessed with beautiful, shiny and healthy locks. This might be the case, if you have young virgin (hair that is not chemically treated) hair. But this is certainly not the case, once you have impaled your tresses, with harsh chemicals such as bleaches and alkaline permanents. Or if you have naturally curly hair,

Naturally Curly Hair...

Those of us with curly hair, YES! I too have curly hair; have these curls, because of a curvature of the hair follicles. A normal hair follicle under a microscope would be seen as perfectly straight. However we have a definite bend in ours. This causes us to have natural curls. When the hair curves it compels the cuticle (the outer layer of the hair) to lift.

The cuticle...

Under a microscope, A cuticle is similar in appearance to shingles on a roof. When the hair is in good conditioner and has good porosity the tiles or cuticle layers are tight together and perfect in shape. When hair is in bad conditioner or has poor porosity, the cuticle layers are lifted and sometimes damaged and broken.

When the cuticle layers are in good health, the hair has a smooth appearance, and because the layers of the cuticle are so tightly knit together, the light is able to reflect off the cuticle. This is what makes hair shine!

When the cuticle layers are not tight together, the hair will feel coarse and brittle. The hair will then absorb the light and not reflect. This will give a surface appearance of dull and lifeless hair.

To sum up this scenario. Because curly haired cuticle layer is permanently lifted, it feels, coarse, and brittle and has no brilliance. Hence the dull, lifeless look. It also means that our hair has poor porosity.

Porosity...

Is the ability for hair to be able to absorb and retain moisture. The best way for me to explain this is to would be for you to imagine a sponge. First of all imagine a brand new sponge. It will have tiny holes in it, and when you immerse it in water, it will soak up a large quantity, and be able to hold that liquid for a long period of time. This is because it has good porosity. Now imagine an old sponge. Its holes have become damaged and distorted. It might even be torn in some areas. When you immerse this sponge in the same amount of liquid, it will absorb far less and will certainly not be able to retain the moisture so readily.

It is the same with hair. Hair that has poor porosity will not be able to absorb or retain moisture as well as hair that has good porosity. making hair permanently dry.

Hot oil treatments...

Traditions have taught many of us that lavishly applying oil to our hair will give us the soft, shiny hair that we all desire. However more often than not, the opposite takes place. Most oils if they are not essential oils do not have the ability to penetrate into the hair shaft. Nor do heavy cholesterols. What they will do, is to lay on top of the cuticle, and coat the cuticle. This may give the hair some Brilliance. However, it will also coat the hair. And causes product build up.

Product build up...

Once the hair is coated, your problems will commence. First of all, the moisture that our hair so desperately needs will not be able to permeate through the wall of product build. The moisture is then not able to find it’s way underneath the cuticle layer. The hair cannot then be conditioned. Also the oils will not diffuse. If you use any kind of hot styling tools such as blow dryers or hot irons, what will happen to your hair, is exactly what happens when you put an egg into a hot pan. It will fry.

If you live in a sunny climate, the oil will do the same thing. The sun will heat the oil and fry your hair. You must have heard the term, my hair feels fried.

Optimum condition...

For hair to be in tiptop conditioner is has to have a moisture (water) content of at least 8%, and the right balance of protein and natural oil. Most of us produce enough natural oil (sebum), to keep our hair healthy, but lack the moisture.

What to do...

You need to give your hair lots of TLC, with product that are designed to restore your hair’s moisture level to its optimum 8%. Look for shampoos that contain natural humectants (magnet like properties to attract moisture), that will work together will your natural oils, to restore your hair’s moisture level to its optimum 8%. Treatment conditioners that contain wheat, rice or corn proteins will repair damaged cuticles, improve porosity, elasticity and general health and appearance of your hair.

Those of us with naturally curly, wavy or frizzy hair, or those of us who chemically treat our hair. Will need to give our hair extra nurturing by supplying our hair with the necessary nutrition and moisture that it needs. Chemical treatments (I.e. perms, hair dyes or bleaches.), will deplete the hair of moisture. bringing the hair moisture level own to as low as 2%. When this occurs you will start to notice split ends. If these are not repaired forthwith and the moisture level not restored to 8%, Your split ends will turn to breakage. This obviously needs to be avoided at all costs. Those of us who live in hot, sunny or arid climates; need to make sure that our hair care product contain sunscreens to protect our hair from the damaging affects of the UV rays. If not the same thing will happen as to those of use that use chemicals on our hair.

Summary... Our hair needs MOISTURE, MOISTURE, and MOISTURE! Who needs to add moisture more than most? People with naturally curly hair, chemically treated hair or people who live in hot sunny climates.

Please feel free to email me with any hair care questions that you may have at dianadudas@snet.net


>>>I found this at www.pioneerthinking.com (has a lot of remedies), also check out www.ivillage.com (good for finding hair styles, hair quizzes, hair dilemna solutions...etc) and www.allure.com (info on salon treaments, product reviews, etc...)


What products are you currently using?
Before you permed your hair what texture was it?
How thick is your hair?
Color Treated?
Condition: combination, dry, oily, normal?

Longish hair? approximately how long is it? where does it hit on your back?


Danielle

cambgirl
12-14-2002, 03:55 PM
Hey thanks for the post.. It has some very good advice in it, that is the bottom line my hair is dry, I use a lot of products... do not have a certain one I differ from week to week.. I am right now using a redkin product called glass, it seems to work well with separating the curls so they are less frizzy..
my hair is longish.. to my scapula area on my back
it is fine, and coloured, I have fairly wavey hair, but had a perm to enhance it, I was scrunching it every day with a lot of mousse and decided to do this, I am happy with it most of the time.

karen
12-14-2002, 06:45 PM
I like the Infusium 23 leave in treatment.It comes in a squirt bottle and I dribble it on while my hair is still wet after washing and conditioning and it gives a lot of control,isn`t sticky while still giving body and bounce.It`s great dry frizzies prevention.

ROCK CRUSHER
12-30-2002, 07:33 AM
if you have FINE hair with a recent color you should think twice before putting any chemicals on it.:(

if you do go to an expert in PERMS like a Toni&Guy

it won't be cheap, then you'll think you can do it yourself WRONG!:(

there's glycerin based products that can "activate" curls in wavy hair.

cause who has time for hot rollers:(

MsFit
12-30-2002, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by ROCK CRUSHER
if you have FINE hair with a recent color you should think twice before putting any chemicals on it.

if you do go to an expert in PERMS like a Toni&Guy

it won't be cheap, then you'll think you can do it yourself WRONG!

there's glycerin based products that can "activate" curls in wavy hair.

cause who has time for hot rollers

:confused: WTF? :confused: I think I'm better off not asking. :D
MsFit

ROCK CRUSHER
12-30-2002, 07:56 AM
my bad! i thought she was thiking about getting a perm!

oh well another case of a "bad perm"

perms suck!

MsFit
12-30-2002, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by ROCK CRUSHER
my bad! i thought she was thiking about getting a perm!

oh well another case of a "bad perm"

perms suck!

No, no.....not that.....I'm just curious why someone with a hardcore name like ROCKCRUSHER know's so much about hair. I'm rather suprised. Please, any advice you can give is welcome. ;)
MsFit

ROCK CRUSHER
12-30-2002, 09:26 AM
:) well lets say HAIR & MAKE-UP are part of my job:)

i like these BB forums because they're not part of my job.

MsFit
12-30-2002, 09:54 AM
Ah, ok. :) Oh, BTW, I hotroll my hair everyday. :D It's time consuming but I have a heap of very thin, baby fine hair on my head and that's the only way I can add body to it. :D
MsFit

ROCK CRUSHER
12-30-2002, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by MsFit
Ah, ok. :) Oh, BTW, I hotroll my hair everyday. :D It's time consuming but I have a heap of very thin, baby fine hair on my head and that's the only way I can add body to it. :D
MsFit

your dedicated!:)

when's the last time you've had a cut and/or color? i don't mean trim:)

MsFit
12-30-2002, 10:45 AM
A trim 6 weeks ago and color about 10-12 weeks ago. I'm ready for another color. :D
MsFit

ROCK CRUSHER
12-30-2002, 01:55 PM
what color?

hi-lights/low-lights?

trim? how about a new Cut for 2003?

post a pic:)