Best Protein Powder For Gaining Muscle?

[bobby1057]

Whenever i go into GNC their employees always try to sell me Muscle Tech and BSN ****. So i take their opinions with a grain of salt.


yeah some one told me they make a comission on muscletech products

[AdamWW]

Everyone who is boasting the ON Gold Standard must be relying soley on the Top Seller lists and what they read in other misinformed reviews. ON's whey isn't terrible, it has gotten better since they moved to WPI as the main source.. but it is FAR from the best.

Beverly International Offers the highest quality and it is ALSO what most pros use. Dorian Yates ProPeptide used to be up there, too, but since the switch to CNP Professional the quality is slightly less. Still it's good.

Next, the best for gaining muscle largely depends on the time of day. Before bed a Micellar Casein is great, and ISS Research offers Micellar Matrix, a great one for that use.

Another great option is Xtreme Formulations Ultra Peptide.. really high quality stuff but I haven't tried it yet. The problem is that most of you are basing your reviews of ON as if it is the highest quality. No, it is not. It is the cheapest for what you get, yes, but on a scale from 1-10 i'd give ON a 5-6.

Here's are my choices:

Post-Workout (Fast Absorbtion):
1. Beverly Intl. Muscle Provider
2. Pride Nutrition RESPECT
3. Ergopharm GF-Pro
4. AST VP2
5. Xtreme Formulations Ultra Peptide

Sustained Release (Slow)
1. Beverly Intl. Ultra Size or Ultimate Muscle Protein
2. ISS Research Micellar Matrix
3. ON's Casein
4. Muscle Milk or other similar

[stillbl]

Hey Guys Do You All Think This Is A Great Stack To Use. Would really appreciate some expert advise do to been a beginner in weight lifting. Or how can I modify my stack to better it....Thanks in advance

Nitrotech Hardcore
Muscletech Nanox9
Animal Pak
Animal Stak

[adamci1]

Everyone who is boasting the ON Gold Standard must be relying soley on the Top Seller lists and what they read in other misinformed reviews. ON's whey isn't terrible, it has gotten better since they moved to WPI as the main source.. but it is FAR from the best.

Beverly International Offers the highest quality and it is ALSO what most pros use. Dorian Yates ProPeptide used to be up there, too, but since the switch to CNP Professional the quality is slightly less. Still it's good.

Next, the best for gaining muscle largely depends on the time of day. Before bed a Micellar Casein is great, and ISS Research offers Micellar Matrix, a great one for that use.

Another great option is Xtreme Formulations Ultra Peptide.. really high quality stuff but I haven't tried it yet. The problem is that most of you are basing your reviews of ON as if it is the highest quality. No, it is not. It is the cheapest for what you get, yes, but on a scale from 1-10 i'd give ON a 5-6.

Here's are my choices:

Post-Workout (Fast Absorbtion):
1. Beverly Intl. Muscle Provider
2. Pride Nutrition RESPECT
3. Ergopharm GF-Pro
4. AST VP2
5. Xtreme Formulations Ultra Peptide

Sustained Release (Slow)
1. Beverly Intl. Ultra Size or Ultimate Muscle Protein
2. ISS Research Micellar Matrix
3. ON's Casein
4. Muscle Milk or other similar
good post. repped (on recharge)

Ever since I switched from blends with WPC such as ON, Sportpharma, EAS and Champion Nutrition, and to a pure isolate for PWO, my gains have been a lot better. I can't wait to try CFM isolate, hydrolyzed and MPI, but all are more expensive. I would highly suggest a micellar casein or regular casein for pre-bed.

[hyperdamtrofee]

sup,

im currently on optimum gold and it works fine for bog standard protein,
BUT the don of all proteins (i dont think u guys can get it in states?)

is dorian yates Ultimate Protein Blend. Check it out, expensive but superb.

[Frling]

Protein Factory's CFM Whey Isolate is the best. CFM Whey is clinically proven to be the most complete and least denatured whey Protein Isolate on the planet.

[GNC_guy101]

O.N. Pro Complex is by far the best protein to gain LEAN muscle mass. Why? Well, with an augmented de;ivery system of 60grams per serving you can be sure that none of your protein is wasted. With all the proteins (whey, Egg, and hydrolized) your body is digesting them at different rates and your muscles are constantly being fed.

Also the 15 vitamins and minerals are like having a multi-vitamin and protein together. Depending on how many shakes you have a day though determines the effectiveness of the vitamins and minerals

Finally, the 14grams of your BCAA's, including at least 5grams of glutamine per serving will almost guarentee your muscles will grow significantly.

Carb-4grams
Calories-190
fat-1gram
surgar-1gram
Augmented protein-60grams

[azula]

O.N. Pro Complex is by far the best protein to gain LEAN muscle mass. Why? Well, with an augmented de;ivery system of 60grams per serving you can be sure that none of your protein is wasted. With all the proteins (whey, Egg, and hydrolized) your body is digesting them at different rates and your muscles are constantly being fed.

Also the 15 vitamins and minerals are like having a multi-vitamin and protein together. Depending on how many shakes you have a day though determines the effectiveness of the vitamins and minerals

Finally, the 14grams of your BCAA's, including at least 5grams of glutamine per serving will almost guarentee your muscles will grow significantly.

Carb-4grams
Calories-190
fat-1gram
surgar-1gram
Augmented protein-60grams

how does it taste?

[mrtwister007]

I heard ON's 100% Whey Protein is one the best out there. So went brought some, only to have the dude at gnc, tell how it was ****tys product in the store. I was pretty surprised alot my friends use it, and people in forums seem to like alot to. Anyone got opion on that, and how much of a difference is there between brands.

This is my opinion only, so take it for just that. ON is popular because it is one of the most inexpensive protiens on the market. That doesn't make it total crap by any means, but in MY OPINION that is why it is popular. You can buy a 5 lb. tub for the same price as a 2.2 lb. tub of another brand. I personally don't like the way ON tastes. I use Beverly Intl. protien which fits into the category I described above. Money is not a problem and I want the very best I can get.

Also, as a good rule of thumb the people at GNC don't know what they are talking about. I went in there one time and asked a question and this fat sack of crap handed me a tub of protien and said "this is what I use." I laughed and walked out. Never went back. Shop online....it's much MUCH cheaper.

[Samuels]

I drink ON because honestly i think its the best tasting. I have the rich chocolate whey.

Then i got vanilla in ON pro complex. I take natty p'nut butter,8oz milk,ice and half a bananna talking about good thats like a cheat meal but loaded with protein and right at 500 calories and almost 80g of protein.

[Nyyankz123]

ON Banana Cream

[GNC_guy101]

The stuff tastes amazing. I mix mine (Rich Chocolate Milk) with water for less calories and fat and it tastes like hot cocoa but its cold.

In reply to mrtwister007: "Some" people who work at GNC are people who work for a living just like you and me. If you think their stupid then why go in yo the store in the first place??? And consider this, maybe you should have asked someone who "knew" what they were talking about. I think the last person I would ask for muscle gaining advice would be Bill Gates. But I'm not going to ask Arnold what a dual processor does.

Try to be more considerate.

[brockman333]

i am taking the body fortress right now. i dont care about the taste
i've been on it for eh around 3-4 days. will i have good muscle gains?

[mac_corps]

Cytosport MuscleMilk "Chocolate" or "Chocolate Malt"

Tastes great. And seems to be doing good.

[Executivej]

listen to AdamWM he knows what he's talking about. Post workout Ergopharm is one of the best possible powders out there in terms of quality, just doesn't taste great or mix well. Beverly is definitely up there across the board, just more expensive. Ultra Peptide 2.0 is awesome but to me more fit for bedtime. My issue with it is the high fat content..might be "good" fat but "good" fat in a shake is not good when you already get it in your daily diet (salmon, Peanut Butter, etc). ISS Micellar Matrix is the best bedtime combo in terms of taste and profile but i wish they made a 5 LBS tub.

Also, not sure who said it above, but Dymatize doesn't get enough love. It's a great option for post workout in terms of taste, ingredients, and cost. Blows ON away in the "mid size sedan" category in my humble opinion.

Bottom Line: DO NOT LISTEN TO THE POSTERS WHO KNOW NOTHING AND GO BY TOP SELLER LISTS AND OTHER PEOPLE'S REVIEWS! I can find you 5-10 other Chocolate flavored proteins that taste better than ON. It's not that it's a bad protein but don't fool yourself into thinking there are not better options for taste and ingredients (though perhaps not always cost).




Post-Workout (Fast Absorbtion):
1. Beverly Intl. Muscle Provider
2. Pride Nutrition RESPECT
3. Ergopharm GF-Pro
4. AST VP2
5. Xtreme Formulations Ultra Peptide

Sustained Release (Slow)
1. Beverly Intl. Ultra Size or Ultimate Muscle Protein
2. ISS Research Micellar Matrix
3. ON's Casein

[timothy22]

metrx size up

[mrtwister007]

In reply to mrtwister007: "Some" people who work at GNC are people who work for a living just like you and me. If you think their stupid then why go in yo the store in the first place??? And consider this, maybe you should have asked someone who "knew" what they were talking about. I think the last person I would ask for muscle gaining advice would be Bill Gates. But I'm not going to ask Arnold what a dual processor does.

Try to be more considerate.

Let me start by saying sorry if I offended you. But, my experience with GNC employees has never been good. I have never, and I mean never seen anyone working at GNC around here that looked like they had ever been in a gym. That doesn't mean all GNC employees are like that, but that's my observation. I'm sure there are some that actually work out....they just don't work around here.

Second, the last time I went into GNC was prior to the internet explosion, which you probably are too young to remember. Back then, we didn't have this wealth of information at our fingertips so we had to ask people questions.

Lastly, the first line of my post said MY OPINION ONLY. Don't be so sensitive.

[crewkip]

O.N. Pro Complex is by far the best protein to gain LEAN muscle mass. Why? Well, with an augmented de;ivery system of 60grams per serving you can be sure that none of your protein is wasted. With all the proteins (whey, Egg, and hydrolized) your body is digesting them at different rates and your muscles are constantly being fed.


How do you support this statement? Reading the label on the bottle doesn't count. Whey, egg, and other forms of protein may be broken down and absorbed at differ rates but I have never read anything to support that. Plus there are plenty of papers out there suggesting glutamine doesn't do anything for weight lifting.

[Pridehurtsform]

the best whey protein, is the cheapest whey protein.

[Coles_555]

I know this has probably been the most asked question but I keep hearing like 10 different answers. I currently use EAS 100% Whey Protein, and its pretty much gone. I have had some gains but nothing major, so I am looking for something new. What would you reccommend???

[Nyyankz123]

I know this has probably been the most asked question but I keep hearing like 10 different answers. I currently use EAS 100% Whey Protein, and its pretty much gone. I have had some gains but nothing major, so I am looking for something new. What would you reccommend???

Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein, end of story.
As for flavor, go with any flavor that you like, no one can choose flavors for you, but ON is top notch.

[Coles_555]

Thats what I have reading the most about, well looks like im going to be spending some cash on the store site, any of you guys have any promo codes?? HAHA

[gsurf1029]

wake up at 8 AM
2 scoops of vanilla Syntha 6, half a banana---like 50g of protien

work out 10 AM - 1130 AM
ON 100% Whey right after-----like another 50g

bedtime---11PM
2 scoops of vanilla Syntha 6, half a banana---like 50g of protien

that right there is for the win, whey after workout for quick digestion, then the syntha 6 blend, for fast, meddium, and slow digestions
and they all taste great

do that along with 2 10oz chicken breasts a day and youll have an easy 250g of protien

[GNC_guy101]

First of all, Thanks for the reply MrTrister007.

Second, Crewkip I know it works because I've been using it for the past month and I've gained 13lbs. Also, ON is one of the OLDEST and most respected names in the suppliment industry. And if their is anyone in here that knows anything about protein they would agree with me when I say that their is not just ONE type of protein.THEREFORE they are not going to be digested at the same rate by the small intestines. O.N. has an augmented (yes, its on the label and may be a complex word for some people) delivery system. And the protein in ON Pro Complex is an Isolate which just means smaller fragments or in technical terms, predigested protein.

Which is nice because if your body does get to much protein at the same time in one day it will create a chemichal called Uric Acid, which is poisonous, instead of new muscle tissue.

Finally, anyone in here ALSO knows who is trying to put on muscle size that, GLUTAMINE is EXTREMELY important when trying to gain size. Some say its the most significant amino acid for bodybuilders hands-down. And YES their is research that proves that their is a greater than 400% greater increase in growth hormone release, and its also the primary component in ones effort to eliminate catabolic effects when training.

You should try some glutamine if you want better results. Wouldn't reccomend over 10 grams a day though.

Sources: Ironman's Ultimate guide to bodybuilding nutrition

[crewkip]

First of all, Thanks for the reply MrTrister007.

Second, Crewkip I know it works because I've been using it for the past month and I've gained 13lbs. Also, ON is one of the OLDEST and most respected names in the suppliment industry. And if their is anyone in here that knows anything about protein they would agree with me when I say that their is not just ONE type of protein.THEREFORE they are not going to be digested at the same rate by the small intestines. O.N. has an augmented (yes, its on the label and may be a complex word for some people) delivery system. And the protein in ON Pro Complex is an Isolate which just means smaller fragments or in technical terms, predigested protein.

Which is nice because if your body does get to much protein at the same time in one day it will create a chemichal called Uric Acid, which is poisonous, instead of new muscle tissue.

Finally, anyone in here ALSO knows who is trying to put on muscle size that, GLUTAMINE is EXTREMELY important when trying to gain size. Some say its the most significant amino acid for bodybuilders hands-down. And YES their is research that proves that their is a greater than 400% greater increase in growth hormone release, and its also the primary component in ones effort to eliminate catabolic effects when training.

You should try some glutamine if you want better results. Wouldn't reccomend over 10 grams a day though.

Sources: Ironman's Ultimate guide to bodybuilding nutrition

This is not an argument so don't take this the wrong way. I use O.N. Gold Standard and love it so I'm not bashing their product either.

Extra protein (especially in the form of whey) is not likely a source for increased Uric acid. UA is formed from nucleic acids, specifically purines. You would have to be on something like the Atkins diet to see significant increases in uric acid, or have a disease like Diabetes or Lesch-Nyhan syndrome.

Yes protein can come from many different sources but when it comes right down to is the same amino acids are making up these protein sources. Whether or not these are broken down in different ways is something I have yet to read. I don't believe the break down of protein in our stomach and GI tract is a rate limiting step, so it seems as though these different forms of protein should be absorbed in similar fashions. I could be wrong though. Here to learn.

As for glutamine here are some of the papers which helped me formulate my opinion.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11834123?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11822473?ordinalpos=6&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum


EDIT:
Found paper where casein protein was shown to be digested slower than whey. Good to know.

[coleyaboy07]

Cytogainer by Cytosport.
http://www.dietarysupplement.com/cytogainer-choc-6-lbs.jpg
It has ALOT of protein, some creatine,
and a few grams of glutamine.

[GNC_guy101]

Its all good, but either way O.N. is one of the highest quality , if not the best, makers of suppliments for positive results.

[R3p]

Hi all

Anyone here used Phd's Synergy ISO 7 before? Been using it for 2 months now and my lifts are going up.

anyone else have any experience with there products?

[GAMEOVER-]

Well I use to weight train quite a bit at 16-19 years of age. I didnt really take anything then but one time for a bit til I had too much Niacin then I just stuck to diet.

Right now I just got back into weight training at 24 about a month ago. Im on only ONs 100% Whey Natural and im seeing a change already. I dont buy into that cross vs micro filtered protein yadda yadda crap. Simply TOO many people are taking basic ON and other micro filtered wheys and quite a few are competitive size big. I deffinately recommend ONs Whey. Get your longer acting proteins in your diet.

I eat a lot of Rib Eye steaks the size of my fist and cheese.


But different strokes for different folks. What works for some wont for others.

[42Ironman]

MHP Probolic-SR
12 hour release keeps a constant flow of protien, especially good for us hard gainers.

(I use On's after workouts due to higher whey content and MHP 1st thing each morning and right before bed)

[Duff36]

Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein would be my first choice, Cytogainer by Cytosport would be my second. I use them both.

[KJPett]

The best protein made and cheap too.

[Frling]

CROSS-FLOW MICROFILTRATION....THE PROCESS DESCRIBED IN LAYMAN'S TERMS
Whey protein isolate can be manufactured using different methods. The Protein Factory carries three different whey isolate proteins. Thus we feel the need to inform our customers of each different method. Cross-Flow Microfiltration is a natural, high tech manufacturing process that uses ceramic filters to remove the fat, lactose, and other unwanted materials, hence isolating the protein. The protein is NOT subjected to chemicals, therefore protein is left unharmed and in its original state. This leads to added benefits over ion-exchange whey isolate, here are a few.
1. Cross-flow microfiltration possesses more calcium and less sodium than ion-exchange. Thus, women and athletes on performance enhancement drugs might want to consider cross-flow microfiltration as their choice for obvious reasons.



Note Glanbia Data
2. Cross-Flow Microfiltration Protein contains different proteins that add to its appeal which ion-exchange does not posses. These proteins are important in the immune system and maintaining biological activity of some proteins. Thus athletes with a risk of over training or intense training bodybuilders would benefit from CFM.


Alpha-Lactabumin helps in the process of digesting minerals and enhancing the immune system.
Glycomacropeptides enhance the immune system by viruses binding to the whey protein instead of the intestinal tract, thus less the chance of becoming infected.

3. CFM whey isolate has the highest level of undenatured protein available (.99%)

Note Glanbia Data



WARNING! Some supplement companies try to use the words cross-flow microfiltration in their list of ingredients when actually they're using none at all. Cross-flow microfiltration whey isolate is trademarked by Glanbia. The label must posses the trademarked symbol.

[digitalgoodtime]

The best protein made and cheap too.

i agree. i really liked my gains on the EAS 100% whey, but i LOVE what the ON 100% whey is doing to me :)

[djslife]

Its all good, but either way O.N. is one of the highest quality , if not the best, makers of suppliments for positive results.

I completely agree with you on the ON Pro Complex I love the stuff.

[tmaxx123]

pro complex is the best

[MercNMuscles]

I know this is repetitive, but I think it's the best protien I've ever taken. Mixes well with very little milk, and the taste is better than most others, along with BCAA's and glutamine. Also, don't care about the taste really. Taste is focusing on the wrong part of the equation imo.

[blueadept33]

I came here looking for suggestions for a new protein after emptying my ON gold, wow I am so glad pro complex is here. I have been using a blend from a local store which is ok, I prefer the blend of whey ,casein and egg, it gives me less gas if I over do it. Pro complex looks right up my alley, thanks!

[burkeshire]

ON's Pro Complex Gainer and ON's Casien

[imawesome]

well, i've been taking ON for about a month now and i've seen the best results with that, but i've also had good reslts with freak fix

[mandude]

I was pretty set on Nitro Tech Hardcore, until I read the ingrediants and saw ASPERTAME. why the hell do they have to ruin such a great product with this artificial sweetner? Do you think it's worth the risk?
Unless anyone can tell me otherwise that they have taken this stuff for years, at least twice a day, with no side effects (seizures, dizziness, memory loss, TUMORS etc) Im not too sure I want to take this.

[imawesome]

I was pretty set on Nitro Tech Hardcore, until I read the ingrediants and saw ASPERTAME. why the hell do they have to ruin such a great product with this artificial sweetner? Do you think it's worth the risk?
Unless anyone can tell me otherwise that they have taken this stuff for years, at least twice a day, with no side effects (seizures, dizziness, memory loss, TUMORS etc) Im not too sure I want to take this.

i used it but the only problem i ever had with it was that it tasted horrible

[FutureCop]

In the mornings I have 16 ounces of water with 2 scoops of American Whey Protein.. then immediately after I work out, 16 ounces of Grape Carbo-Force combined with 2 scoops of double chocolate American Whey Protein.... Has like 20-25 grams of protein and its very lean, less fats and **** than Muscle Milk Light (my brother uses it so i compared)...

Combined with a solid diet, I'm gaining approx 2lb's a week... not loookin really get huge, but get bigger and more importantly get lean!

[TJM213]

Can anyone please explain the difference between the following Optimum Nutrition whey proteins? I am currently taking EAS 100% whey and I am thinking of trying ON brand of whey protein.

- 100% Classic Whey
- 100% NATURAL Whey
- 100% Whey Protein

[DCVolcom]

What about BSN True Mass?
haven't bought yet but been hearin it good

[cbsxr800]

In the mornings I have 16 ounces of water with 2 scoops of American Whey Protein.. then immediately after I work out, 16 ounces of Grape Carbo-Force combined with 2 scoops of double chocolate American Whey Protein.... Has like 20-25 grams of protein and its very lean, less fats and **** than Muscle Milk Light (my brother uses it so i compared)...

Combined with a solid diet, I'm gaining approx 2lb's a week... not loookin really get huge, but get bigger and more importantly get lean!

The new musclemilk has lean lipids and MCTs which actually help you get leaner. It's called good fats, The new cake batter is great tasting and i have been getting way leaner from this supp compared to other wheys. I do use ONs gold with my meals though for an added pro boost.

[WilliamWill]

Hi everyone,

Does any of you got any experience with BBeX Whey Deluxe??

http://www.bbexnutrition.com/images/whey-deluxe-1kg.jpg


I just bought the chocolate version and can only say that the taste is not very good... Anyone had any good results with this one?

[ScottMcDWVU]

Protein.com's various Isolate protein powders. You can easily slam down a 60-90 gram shake with no bloat and be able to eat again in 2-3 hours. Some of these other brands gave me horrible distention and digestion issues, if your product is high quality isolate it will do this to almost no one. I like premium fruit punch right now and did fine with the premium chocolate and vanillas as well(just getting tired of the same old same old everyday).

[BowflexJunnie]

I think that the best protein powder is Premium Whey Protein. But I only take I scoop before I work out. It tastes great and helps me gain muscle and loose fat.

Cell Tech and Nitro tech. Second would be Whey protein I think would be ok. But with the cell tech you must eat big. Have a good breakfast or wherever your about to workout.

[BowflexJunnie]

Hi everyone,

Does any of you got any experience with BBeX Whey Deluxe??

http://www.bbexnutrition.com/images/whey-deluxe-1kg.jpg


I just bought the chocolate version and can only say that the taste is not very good... Anyone had any good results with this one?

I have tried the Extreme Whey protein and it works good for me but never tried this.

[PTAY@VZW.BLACKBERRY.NET]

what about super plasma protein? any one know about that stuff?

[mikestarr]

I really like ON, but it only has 24g of protien. Do you guys do one scoop or two...only ask because i see proteins out there that have like 45g

[Yankeez]

I really like ON, but it only has 24g of protien. Do you guys do one scoop or two...only ask because i see proteins out there that have like 45g

use 2 scoops post workout within 45mins your body per 1kg can absorb 1g of protien (compare to normal state of 1 kg to a .55g absorbtion) so 45 grams protien plus 20g of dextrose/gluscose = great postwork out

[Symphonix]

I'm very fond of ON's Pro Complex. Here's the protein blend:

Whey Protein Isolate, Glutamine Peptides, L-Leucine, Egg Albumin, Whey Peptides, L-Isoleucine, L-Valine

I like the isolate with the egg albumin. Fast absorbtion (whey isloate) with a few hours of continued benefit (egg albumin.) Plus, it has 30 grams of protein per scoop. I've got the strawberry and it tastes AWESOME with skim milk. It's a little more money than the ON 100% whey, but I think the benefits are worth it.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/pro.html

[ballbagg]

BEVERLY BEVERLY BEVERLY...have done 'em all...its well worth the few extra $$. Optimum and BSN "where" my choice supps...

[MR87]

BEVERLY BEVERLY BEVERLY...have done 'em all...its well worth the few extra $$. Optimum and BSN "where" my choice supps...

"'where'" Example "Where" are the dumbells?

"were" Example Optimum and BSN "were" my choice supps...

[RickyWhite]

Is 100 % Myopro Whey Protein the same quality as Optimum 100% Whey Protein .. if not .. is it good?

http://www.sncdirect.com/images/products/snc-600/eas/22354-100-myopro-whey-protein-choc.jpg

thanks

[matt uk]

discount supplements own brand good stuff cheap good back up protien i prefer it to the fancy stuff
www.******************s.co.uk get it from there if any one wants it

[imawesome]

I really like ON, but it only has 24g of protien. Do you guys do one scoop or two...only ask because i see proteins out there that have like 45g

two

[Panthers89Fan90]

Optimum nutrition is a good source for protein through the powder form.

[SilverJag]

i've been reading a lot throughout the site, and apparently different brands of whey protein may give different results.

unfortunately, the EAS whey protein i've been using isn't really helping me all that much -- i have no idea why. whey is whey, i dont understand why different brands do different things.

anyone else have any experiences with EAS whey?

[spinbad]

What about nitrotech.What do you think about that protein. I am on the second container and think it is good. I am a plumber and dont have time for 7 meals so have to rely on suplements.

[kevolution]

EAS is pretty expensive... but at least they have some substance to back it up. They use higher quality isolate instead of whey protein concentrate.. and from what I hear, they taste considerably better than other proteins.

[wtfmate08]

EAS is pretty expensive... but at least they have some substance to back it up. They use higher quality isolate instead of whey protein concentrate.. and from what I hear, they taste considerably better than other proteins.

Are you talking about their protein powder? if so you are wrong my friend. Not trying to be rude but they use almost all WPC.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/eas/whey.html

Probably just have WPI in there to make it look better but not a lot of it. That is why it can be so cheap.

[imawesome]

what is the best casein?

[IllenVillain]

ok im lookin to order soon, reps to whoever helps me out :

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/iron/protein.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/vp2.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dym/iso90.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/natwhey.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/xtreme.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/gf.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sd/whey.html

im 19, 162lbs, 5'9 lookin to put on some serious muscle, I obviously want the most natural and best quality, dont really care about taste.

[AmericanPsycho]

What about nitrotech.What do you think about that protein. I am on the second container and think it is good. I am a plumber and dont have time for 7 meals so have to rely on suplements.
Nitrotech is what you call a protein powder combo. I know it has whey protein (the fast digesting, common kind) and I believe it has some casein protein in there too ( the slow digesting kind found in cottage cheese for example). It also has creatine in it too.

People have mixed feelings about these hybrid blends. I mean they work, but a lot of people like to take their whey, casein, and creatine at specific times of the day, not wanting to ingest them all at the same time necessarily.

If I was you I would possibly pick up some ON 100% Whey protein (a lot of flavors you'll like no-doubt) and if you can afford it possibly some of ON's casein protein or MuscleMilk as it's pretty common too.

[Mustang302]

Here's are my choices:

Post-Workout (Fast Absorbtion):
1. Beverly Intl. Muscle Provider
2. Pride Nutrition RESPECT
3. Ergopharm GF-Pro
4. AST VP2
5. Xtreme Formulations Ultra Peptide

Sustained Release (Slow)
1. Beverly Intl. Ultra Size or Ultimate Muscle Protein
2. ISS Research Micellar Matrix
3. ON's Casein
4. Muscle Milk or other similar


Do any of these companies offer their products in 5lb or 10lb tubs? Ive been using CNP Pro-Peptide and i cant even find that in 5lb tubs. Im on my 5th 2lb tub of pro peptide and its gettin expensive!

[leevshan]

I'm buying ON 100%, but the flavor choices for the 10 lbs one is only a few compared to the 5 lbs one. Anyway, what's the best flavor? Nobody likes banana strawberry?

[PrimetimeNoob]

double rich choc. is the best flavor from ON imo.

[Jay_Boss]

Hey guys. I'm bout 203 pounds 5'11-6 feet. Right now I'm using Muscle Milk protein, but it's expensive if you follow the serving instructions. Got a 2.97 lb tub and it's about gone already after a week. Given that I'm trying to pack on lean muscle and lose some weight, what protein should I be using right now? I've been thinking about ON 100% or Syntha-6. But I'm trying to move away from BSN because they are too expensive and have too much sugar IMO. So any suggestions or insights?

[rob426hz]

Hey guys. I'm bout 203 pounds 5'11-6 feet. Right now I'm using Muscle Milk protein, but it's expensive if you follow the serving instructions. Got a 2.97 lb tub and it's about gone already after a week. Given that I'm trying to pack on lean muscle and lose some weight, what protein should I be using right now? I've been thinking about ON 100% or Syntha-6. But I'm trying to move away from BSN because they are too expensive and have too much sugar IMO. So any suggestions or insights?

are you using the MM for a meal replacement? if you're looking for something after your workout, go with a whey protein... much cheaper and much more servings/container. MM is all about taste... i know EAS and other companies have similar protein blends that are cheaper... i think it's called 'max milk'

[Jay_Boss]

Nope I take it after workouts and before I got to bed. Otherwise I'm trying to stick to a low carb diet like I had during wrestling season. About 100-200 grams. I eat about 5-6 times a day. 3 main meals and the rests are snacks. I take protein about 4 times a day.

[rob426hz]

there's no need for muscle milk right after a workout. go with a whey protein blend... you'll get a lot more servings for your money. and, like most ppl recommend... you know i'ma tell you to go with the cottage chese/natty pb pre-bed.

[david100proof]

100% whey delicious strawberry price wise you cant beat it xcilent

[david100proof]

forgot to put the brand sorry

[JQ729]

I like Optimum Nutrition's 100% Gold Standard when i'm not being a cheap a$$. I also like american whey's protein cuz i can get 10 pounds for $59 or 25 pounds for $140. PM me if you want the website i get american whey from. They are both very lean proteins and both mix well and taste very good.

[leevshan]

How is Ultimate Nutrition Prostar Whey compared to ON 100% Whey? They both have similar nutritional facts, calories, etc. , and they both have the same flavor i'm getting which is cookies n cream. Please share your thoughts. :D

[ROBOCOQ]

there's no need for muscle milk right after a workout. go with a whey protein blend... you'll get a lot more servings for your money. and, like most ppl recommend... you know i'ma tell you to go with the cottage chese/natty pb pre-bed.

wouldn't xtreme formulations ultra peptide 2.0 be a good suggestion?
quoted from their website:
"51/49 ratio of pure undenatured low temperature processed micellar casein to ceramic microfiltered whey isolate for the protein component"

sounds pretty good. fast absortion + slow absortion = a really good protein supplement, right?

plus i think it has like 0 grams of sugar LOL

[73flatt]

I have been using a product from BioQuest called MyoZene and MyoZene ultra pro. I had good results and going to reorder. the price is not bad for a 4lb tub its about $45., for the ultra pro 2lb $25.. the taste is not great but you get use to it. found it at pro source.net.(had to separate the name of the other site because bb.com would not show it) bb.com also sales it. for more info got www.myozene.com

[TheBarbell]

Labrada V60- tastes great and uses a variety of proteins - ie..whey isolates, casein, egg, to give you instant protein as well as protein that will deliver through the day (or evening)

[NickyZ46]

Body fortress whey..not the best tasting but 14 bucks lasts me about a month..works great and not too much extra **** that turns it into a fatbuilder

[SuperKent]

Nytrowhey Ultra for Whey Protein.
It's ingridients list is amaizing. Whey Hydrozylate and CFM protein are the two sources!

Evopro for Casein Protein.
It's ingridients list is outstanding too!

Both taste great.

[Drexx]

Muscle Milk.. Gives me my whey and casein
Or ON's 100% whey

[FCKNGAWSM]

ON Standard Gold or ON Pro Complex?

[Dizzydog]

I use both ON and Syntha-6 now. Im LOVING the Syntha before bed and the ON mixed with Syntha during the day.

Its like a sore dick, you cant beat it.


BTW: once you try Syntha all other proteins will taste like ass by themselves.

[faheemwyne]

Dorian Yates ProPeptide
Beverly Muscle Provider
Ergoharm GF Pro

These 3 are the best for Professional level bodybuilders who are serious about gaining muscle.

For rest, there's ON's Whey and similar cheap a$$ whey concentrates.

have to agree with Dorian Yates (by CNP) ProPeptide - it's definitely the Mut's nuts as we say here in the UK. Have tried many whey powders but none came close to propeptide.

Also Cyclone by Maximuscle is worth a try

[05impalaSS]

I use ON gold standard during the day and take Syntha-6 chocolate bout 1 hour b4 bed......those 2 protiens are the best evar!!

[gym_rat_7]

First off...I don't consider my self an expert. I would take advice from a guy on here that looks like the incredible hulk before listening to me. With that being said, the Designer Whey tastes great and most importantly it does not upset my stomach, cause constipation or diahrea. LOL My stomach does not like Soy based proteins, so I stay away from those. This whey protein powder is reasonably priced at the Vitamin Shoppe and I throw in a banana, olive oil (for good cholesterol) and knox gelatin (for joints) to make a breakfast shake.

[fuentejps]

do u guys think the on pro is that much better than gold standard

[mightydustloop]

I use both ON and Syntha-6 now. Im LOVING the Syntha before bed and the ON mixed with Syntha during the day.

Its like a sore dick, you cant beat it.


BTW: once you try Syntha all other proteins will taste like ass by themselves.

OOC, what flavors do you mix?

I do the same thing but have found I prefer to use infusion over syntha because it tends to fill me up a bit more being more of an MRP (but 4 scoops at once = hella expensive). Not a lot of liquid meals I wind up doing though, which is good, because with water it's pretty bleh. Might be doing one today though...

[ROBOCOQ]

Labrada V60- tastes great and uses a variety of proteins - ie..whey isolates, casein, egg, to give you instant protein as well as protein that will deliver through the day (or evening)

Nu-tek pro 5 has a similar blend but with micellar casein which labrada v60 does not have.
i was on labrada before and liked it, but for the cost, variety of flavors, and quality of ingredients, IMHO:

Nu-tek pro 5 > Labrada V60

i'm using nu-tek pro 5's cookies n cream and omg it tastes good...good in water and even better in milk :)

i can't wait to try their other flavors..i might just buy one to have at my work

[foxrider1]

can i get ON gold 100% protein in australia?

[yankees246]

ON gold standard whey protein. It's got more protein and less of everything else (calories, fat, carbs) than any other on the market. It's good for people that just want a pure protein supplement in there diet. It's not overpriced either.

[janjo]

the powdered protein called "Low-Carb Grow!" ? Anyone heard about this one?

I read about it through t-nation's articles about the "v-diet". I thought they were just giving it promotion.

They also mention Surge as a post-workout nutrition.

Any of these ring a bell? are they any good or not?

[jerseyfury2]

Controlled Labs products I stand behind 100%. Their white blood and green bulge I find superior products to anything on the market.

as far as a protein powder BEX whey isolate.

[Panthers89Fan90]

I just saw this product and haven't heard much about it. Is it effective? It claims you can gain 16 pounds of muscle in 5 weeks, but this is obviously a lie. By looking at the stuff that goes in this supplement, if you continue using it, it would probably kill you. The saturated fat is A LOT! Here is the link: http://www.********/product/index.jsp?productId=2598933&cp=2167077.2325087.2488587&pg=6&parentPage=family
Tell me what you guys think.
Here is another link: http://www.maxperformance.com/product.php?productid=16196

[spyderman4g63]

Real Gains Strawberry.

[zO~]

Isopure

[scouthern]

Ultimate Nutrition Prostar Whey, best bang for your buck

[dugaman]

Reflex Nutrition Micellar Casein Protein Strawberry or Syntrax Matrix 5.0 Cookies and cream.. Anything with Micellar in it is the bomb...

[cave24]

cytosports muscle milk is pretty good, just started out on it so i dont know about the gains, but it tastes great!

[peteski]

Hi just a quick question it's probably been answered a thousand times but i'm not sure where to search.

i've just bought optimum nutritions 100% whey and casein, i get up at 7 in the morning and train at 10am, when would be the best time to take each type of protein? i know casein before bed as it's slow release, but would i take the whey before and after training or mix the two at any point?

also i've noticed a lot of proteins with whey casein and lots of other types of protein in, are there any advantages in just taking whey over having 3/4 shakes of this kind with different time release protein?

thanks. pete

[mrk23]

Hi just a quick question it's probably been answered a thousand times but i'm not sure where to search.

i've just bought optimum nutritions 100% whey and casein, i get up at 7 in the morning and train at 10am, when would be the best time to take each type of protein? i know casein before bed as it's slow release, but would i take the whey before and after training or mix the two at any point?

also i've noticed a lot of proteins with whey casein and lots of other types of protein in, are there any advantages in just taking whey over having 3/4 shakes of this kind with different time release protein?

thanks. pete

I would take the whey before and after your work. Then, take casein before you sleep.

As long as you're eating a meal every 2 hours or so, you should be fine without a blend.

[Rodzilla]

Hi just a quick question it's probably been answered a thousand times but i'm not sure where to search.

i've just bought optimum nutritions 100% whey and casein, i get up at 7 in the morning and train at 10am, when would be the best time to take each type of protein? i know casein before bed as it's slow release, but would i take the whey before and after training or mix the two at any point?

also i've noticed a lot of proteins with whey casein and lots of other types of protein in, are there any advantages in just taking whey over having 3/4 shakes of this kind with different time release protein?

thanks. pete
Hey man, in the future just grab a blend, Ultra Peptide 1.0 is 51/49 micellar casein/ whey isolate...so you could use it at either time.

I would take the whey before and after your work. Then, take casein before you sleep.

As long as you're eating a meal every 2 hours or so, you should be fine without a blend.
yep, but one thing, it can be longer than 2..no worries

[freedom_fighter]

Hey man, in the future just grab a blend, Ultra Peptide 1.0 is 51/49 micellar casein/ whey isolate...so you could use it at either time.



Is it the same ratio for UP2.0?

[Rodzilla]

Is it the same ratio for UP2.0?

yes, but 2.0 has the added fats. Whether or not they effect digestion, I still don't like them around working out.

[peteski]

I would take the whey before and after your work. Then, take casein before you sleep.

As long as you're eating a meal every 2 hours or so, you should be fine without a blend.

Thanks youse two, ill try thais seeing as i've bought both, but ill probably try a protein blend next time to save on hassle lol

[HHH_Batista]

any side effects on anabolic window?

[IllenVillain]

yes, muscle growth

[bbc28]

Optimum Nutrition's Gold Standard 100% Whey...It has been repeatedly rated the best why protein out there for the last couple years. I like the chocolate flavor; it mixes perfectly with water. The stuff tastes outstanding and is extremely light on the stomach. It doesnt curb appetite or cause indigestion. I highly recommend it.

[xxno1xx]

Optimum Nutrition's Gold Standard 100% Whey...It has been repeatedly rated the best why protein out there for the last couple years. I like the chocolate flavor; it mixes perfectly with water. The stuff tastes outstanding and is extremely light on the stomach. It doesnt curb appetite or cause indigestion. I highly recommend it.

Is the ON 100% whey a protein isolate or concentrate?

[ROBOCOQ]

yes, muscle growth

lmao

[*Felix*]

So whats the best protein powder for gaining muscle?

[p-trav]

syntha-6

no lie

[cizeon]

how is now foods whey protein isolate, has anybody tried it.

[cave24]

Muscle Milk is a great protein powder for gaining muscle, is has a mixture of whey, milk, and egg protein (mostly whey)
Its a great lean muscle building protein powder, and it tastes great.

[Oddball8945]

Muscle Milk is a great protein powder for gaining muscle, is has a mixture of whey, milk, and egg protein (mostly whey)
Its a great lean muscle building protein powder, and it tastes great.

you mean casein?.......... i mean it is the first ingredient

[RxAJ]

I picked up Syntha-6 recently and was blown away by it. First off it's freakin delicious. The strawberry milkshake flavor is the best tasting "snack" I've ever had....it tastes forbidden. You don't get much for what you pay, like most BSN products, but it is extremely high quality. I've been taking 2 scoops of of it only once a day, to save money, about 2 hours before bed. During the rest of the day I drink good old ON 100% whey. This stuff is tested and proven, and you can get a crap load of it for a reasonable price. Rocky Road is my favorite flavor, but it tastes like garbage next to syntha-6.

So far the combination of both has given me some good gains! Try it!

[h3yhOwy0udOin]

I like the combo of ON 100% Whey and On Casein.

[Will2k84]

Is the ON 100% whey a protein isolate or concentrate?

It's a Whey Protein Isolate. I currently am using On 100% Whey Gold Standard tropical punch flavour. It's not a bad flavour but from what i hear the chocolate and cookies and cream is really nice.

Ive only been using ON 100% for the last 3 weeks so i can't comment on it yet but it seems to get good reviews from a lot of people here.

[carnage08]

Is ON's 100% Whey and Optimum's 100% Whey the same thing?

[DjNK007]

Is ON's 100% Whey and Optimum's 100% Whey the same thing?

yes bro..same thing.

I like the ON stuff, but my favorite has to be IDS' Multi Pro Whey...it has tons of glutamine and arginene in every scoop.like 2x the amount in ON. Although ON is what im using right now

[mawwkkky]

ON 100% whey you really can't go wrong at all. Even all of their flavors taste awsome, except for cookies n' cream omfg.... worst **** i have ever tasted and trust me i have tasted every protien in the book and can drink anything but the cookies n creme was just horrible... i actually threw up. Again i dont know if it was a bad batch or something but the taste was more like ass n cream. I guess ill have to go by a small tub of cookies n creme just to see if the one i had before was a bad batch.

[Bigsby]

I just started the new Venom product, I'll let you guys know how it goes. I have a competition in June so I need any help I can get to lower my bf levels as much as possible.

[taseal]

ok, so ON for whey

what about casein? whey as well?

whats this syntha-6 about? never heard of it. (quick review shows that its casein I think?)

[Dtru]

I have tried both Nitro Tech and ON 100%. To be honest I felt really bloated around my waist when I was taking ON, but I was also taking Kre-Alkalyn creatine, Nitrix and Tribex. Before the Tribex I took Methyl 1-D, I did bulk up but I never could tell which one was giving me the doughnut feeling. When I was taking Nitro Tech I was verry lean, never felt bloated and I ate everything that was in my way I was the biggest and the strongest I have ever been. When I was taking ON with all the other supplements I ate verry clean but nothing I could do to take away from my bloat.

[Bigsby]

Syntha-6 is a protein with several different types of protein to give you the maximum absorption possible. It includes whey proteins for quick absorption(perfect for pre/post workout) and then slower digesting proteins like casein that takes up to 6 hours to digest (hence the 6 in the name). It's an all around great protein because it can be taken really at any time and provides all the benefits of whey and casein. Great for right before bedtime to keep your body from going into catabolic state. Not to mention it tastes amazing!

[testi1969]

Optimum Nutrition wins my vote
taste great, mixes with water easily,low fat,low carbs,high protein
Perfect combo in my opinion!

[Kane1506]

Does anybody know where i can purchase On whey in the uk? dont really wanna pay $40 for delivery from the U.S if it can be avoided. If not does anybody know any good sites to buy from? thanks.

[Bigsby]

Does anybody know where i can purchase On whey in the uk? dont really wanna pay $40 for delivery from the U.S if it can be avoided. If not does anybody know any good sites to buy from? thanks.

well I usually get most of my supps from bodybuilding.com lol, it's one of the cheapest and they have everything I need.

[ech3lon]

wat do u guys reckon of the ultimate nutrition isomax xtreme gainer?

[email_mikel]

I like the combo of ON 100% Whey and On Casein.

For sure, ON 100% Whey post workout and ON 100% casien before bed. I also like Dymatize Elite 12 hour(NEW!!) or Universal Milk&Egg(Also NEW!!) to fill in the gaps throughout the day. Both have a nice amount of BCAA's and taste great!

[mroberts1204]

On's Casein is solid before bed...but has anybody tried On's After Max? Pretty impressive ingredient list:

360 Calories
4g Fat
40g high-glycemic carbs
40g Protein
5g Creatine
5g Glutamine

I use this right after I wake up, after any workout, and 1-2 scoops After Max mixed with 1 heaping scoop Casein before bed. Anabolic 24/7. Its not the best tasting stuff out there, but it won't make you fat like Muscle Milk. Its like a step up from the ON 100% Whey.

[GAMEOVER-]

Best complex protein on the market is without a doubt CNP Professional Pro Peptide

Best Whey im still trying to figure out. I use to be one of the dumb ones who thought it (ON Whey) was the best until I saw the light. Soon you will to, if your serious about building anyway.

[iron master]

I was a big fan of VP2 till 2004 when I saw the research. As a very serios bodybuilder and competing to very high stand I decided to try the HP-100 because every pound of muscle for me means a lot. It wasn't the best tasting protein but I didn't care I wanted to see if deliveres the 14 days results.
After 3-4 days of using this protein I found the pump I'd got from training stayed with me even the next morning. First I thought maybe it's illusory but after 14 days I realized the density and the tickness I got from this protein it's real. Since those days I've been using full range of ASN Nano products with outstanding results.

[iron master]

HP-100 vs VP2 RESEARCH RESULTS


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/newattachment.php?do=manageattach&p=

[DAVEZILLA]

I use body fortress whey and ON 100% casein, with both I experienced no bloating, no upset stomach, and at the price it's well worth it

[salman143]

can anyone tell me about nitro tech hardcore this is a product of muscletech
is this better than whey protein??? and tell me about side effects of it plzzz if some one use it then tell me

[18andOver]

i use muscletechs nitrotech protein powder. due to medical issues i can only take 1 scoop per day for now. but i have gained 11 lbs from it. jan 1st i was 239lbs and april 2nd i was 250lbs and its hard for someone who is 6'4" to gain weight especially when they can only consume 100 grams of protein a day.

[iron master]

As a very serios bodybuilder and competing to very high stand I decided to try the HP-100 because every pound of muscle for me means a lot. It wasn't the best tasting protein but I didn't care I wanted to see if deliveres the 14 days results.
After 3-4 days of using this protein I found the pump I'd got from training stayed with me even the next morning. First I thought maybe it's illusory but after 14 days I realized the density and the tickness I got from this protein it's real. Since those days I've been using full range of ASN Nano products with outstanding results.

http://www.asn-nutrition.com/hp100.htm
http://www.asn-nutrition.com/hp100_lab_results.htm

[05impalaSS]

ON Whey or Dymatize

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[bigpoppas]

ON Whey or Dymatize

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Ha! Agreed

BigPoppas

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[kanny]

ON Whey or Dymatize

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dymatize, doens't match its label claims, ON is great tho

[apace]

Is there any study on Dymazide to say it did not meet its label claims ??

[ECLIPSEGST25]

I have been using BSN Syntha-6 and i'm happy with it but i have also been looking in the mucsle tech portien. Alot of good things are said about mucsle tech. has anyone tried them both and which is better for mucsle gains?

[kanny]

Is there any study on Dymazide to say it did not meet its label claims ??

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2581861

[kagaos]

nvm

[apace]

Has anyone tried MRM Metabolic Whey any good comments about it ??
or Mega Pro Magnum Whey ii ??

I was taking ON whey for the last 2 years but the price went up too much so ihave to find something else as good as On but at a cheaper price

[greggers_222]

would anyone recommend taking horleys awesome mass for building muscle? or is there any powders that you think are superior?

[Trem24]

Right now I'm on ON 100% Whey quite impressed with the taste and I also use ON Pro Complex for post work out.

I've been reading a lot of good things about BSN's Syntha-6 and might be trying some soon. My only question is when I look at the nutrition label it has 6 grams of fat, isn't that kind of a lot?

[cameron-nr]

i gained 3 pounds in 2 weeks with myozene by bioquest

[Wilky88]

personally, ive found Multipower's Weight Gain the best for adding on extra muscle mass. It contains 53g of protein, 65g of complex carbs and 3g of creatine per 75g of powder.

There are a few drawbacks though. It isnt cheap...a 2.5kg tub costs around ?55.00...and the tub lasts me for around 3 weeks. Another drawback is its taste...imagine tasting sheep urine, broccoli, and chocolate...all together...and thats what it tastes like! lol i find doing these simple steps makes it easier to stomach...1) take a gulp 2) grit your teeth 3) breathe out 4) hold your nose 5) close your eyes 6) head back and swallow!...and repeat until the shakes all gone lol

But we dont take shakes because the taste nice...we take them because they give us results...and Multipowers Weight Gain gives you results

[Chachibenji]

I stick with ON, I honestly cant say I can compare it with anything else since Ive used ON from the start, but Ive had steady gains in the right places with it, I switched from their whey to their Pro Complex for post workout, and in the past I used their 2:1:1 recovery after tougher workouts (although it is rather expensive for its size, so I dont usually have 2:1:1 on hand unless I have some extra cash), and all have worked well.

[ICWRobby]

I've been lifting for a month now and I started out with Nitro-Tech like most people new to the sport. It's what you see on the shelf when you walk into a GNC or Vitamin World with massive guys all over the bottle. I have seen a small increase in overall size but like any compound product it feels like something is wasted after drinking. As a beginner I don't think it's a bad product, but as I start to get serious into adding mass and not just something I drink down 3 times a day, you have to get serious into your supplementation. Nitrotech doesn't do that for me.

[INSERT_NAME]

is American Whey (20g protein) any good?

i plan on buying 25lbs (400 servings) for $149 +tax

[IMCDEGE]

is cytosport complete whey any good?

[himahim]

Hey i take op 100% whey protein , the best stuff but i want to get more serious , what should i take with the whey protein like vitamins and enhancers etc... please reply

[240kat]

is cytosport complete whey any good?

CytoSport doesn't make bad products. I've been using their EvoPro (26g protein/32g serving) for the last month and have seen huge strength gains. I stack it with Fast Twitch, a multi and Animal Pak Flex. I've gained minimal weight on the scales (2-4lbs) over the last month, but i'm more defined and my one rep maxes have increased huge.

[240kat]

Right now I'm on ON 100% Whey quite impressed with the taste and I also use ON Pro Complex for post work out.

I've been reading a lot of good things about BSN's Syntha-6 and might be trying some soon. My only question is when I look at the nutrition label it has 6 grams of fat, isn't that kind of a lot?


The fat they use (as well as other companies, IE cytosport) is called a medium chain triglyceride. It's a fat that is digested and used as energy. Doctors give MCT's to AIDS patients when their digestive system starts to quit and they're unable to digest complex carbs.

[sknv]

Muscle Milk, I love it

Has whey and casein in it and is packed with calories

[Trashcan77]

I use designer because it mixes so well i just fill a glass 3/4 full of milk and put 3 scoops in and stir with a spoon and it tastes great i am considering using on's because everyone seems to like it so much im going to compare the labels and see. : )

[NastyNally]

Muscle Milk, I love it

Has whey and casein in it and is packed with calories

That could be a good thing or a bad thing. The excess calories and fat content could mean more fat rather than more muscle.

Syntha-6 is the best in my opinion both for gaining muscle and for taste.

[Shackler97]

is American Whey (20g protein) any good?

i plan on buying 25lbs (400 servings) for $149 +tax


The BEST protein I've tried, hands down....and I've tried just about all the ones mentioned on this site. You won't be disappointed.

[J-Cubed]

On's 100% Whey. This stuff is the real deal.

[drr8066]

I'm new to this whole thing, and a guy at my gym who looked like he knew what he was talking about recommend ON 100% Whey Gold. But does it really matter? I went to GNC and there were a few brands that were cheaper than ON and looked really similar. Can ON really be worth it?

[240kat]

I'm new to this whole thing, and a guy at my gym who looked like he knew what he was talking about recommend ON 100% Whey Gold. But does it really matter? I went to GNC and there were a few brands that were cheaper than ON and looked really similar. Can ON really be worth it?

read read and then read..and before you buy at GNC, check out prices at the store connected to this forum-great prices.

[40ozpower]

VPX Zero Impact has the best profile of any protein powder, period.

[Coltsfan46202]

Optimum....I was taking some cheap crap I bought in bulk, switched to ON, my bench jumped 25lbs in the first month.....Love the stuff.

[Reptile]

I would have to say ON PRO COMPLEX hands down! I've tried many many different protein supplements but because of the mix of different proteins, BCAA's, Glutamine, Vitamins and Minerals and the taste makes every shake a little treat since I have about 3-4 shakes a day. The negative of course that it's a little more pricey, but well worth it IMO!

[Bodfather]

i use dark evolution's red cell blitz, post workout- 15g whey peptides, 10g whey isolates, 8g bcaa, 6g glutamaine...
wouldnt that be cool...

[Trem24]

The fat they use (as well as other companies, IE cytosport) is called a medium chain triglyceride. It's a fat that is digested and used as energy. Doctors give MCT's to AIDS patients when their digestive system starts to quit and they're unable to digest complex carbs.

Gotcha thanks for the info

[islandguy858]

over the years, i've tried several different brands. on's, by far, is the best tasting (not too rich). plus, it's real easy to mix and a lot easier on the digestive system, if you know what i mean. in my opinion, if your protein is giving you the sh-ts, your digestive system isn't breaking it down and absorbing it as well as it should. which means, it's being wasted. which means, so is your hard-earned money. if you're not sure about a new protein powder, buy the smallest possible amount as a trial. or, better yet, if you can get samples from of your fellow gym rat buddies, that would be good, too. fortunately, my local supplier lets me return it in exchange for something else if there's anything about it i don't like.

[Rsanman]

As of right now Muscle Milk Chocolate mint..Giving me great Lean Muscle Gains

[Neil_2k2]

easy

Maximuscle Cyclone

[Neil_2k2]

Expensive, Tastes foul BUT

30g protein
21g carbs
5.1g Glutamine
5.1g Creatine Monohydrate
1.5g HMB

[Pumpiron7]

Optimum 100% Whey Protein.

Easy to mix, taste great, and price is good.

[email_mikel]

Allmax IsoFlex or Ultimate Nutrition Iso-Sensation93. Both have high % of whey isolate per serving.

Most of the whey protein powders you find will contain whey protein concentrate with some whey isolate mixed in. Whey protein isolate is more expensive than whey concentrate- because it's higher biological value(BV), and higher quality(more pure). Whey protein isolate contains more protein with less lactose and fat per serving. Usually, isolate contains 90-98% protein while concentrate contains 70-85%. Also, if you are lactose intolerant , isolate might be a better choice since it contains less lactose.

[EvIl-gOaT]

is true mass any good?

[billys15]

A general question.What do you guys mean by "best protein" or "this whey gave me muscle"? You mean that this protein gave you the body you have today???

[guinho]

Whey:
Optimum Nutrition 100% Gold Standard Whey
Reflex Nutrition MicroWhey (WPI)
Reflex Nutrition Instant Whey
PHD Pharma Whey

Time release:
SAN Infusion
Reflex Nutrition Peptide Fusion

Casein:
Cytosport EvoPro
Optimum Nutrition Casein

[elwhippo]

Hi there, i have been going to the gym for a few years now and after only noticing a bit of difference I decided to invest in some protein powder. I used a local shop to get Whey Protein Isolate by a company called Winning Ways. Coming to the end of my tub and I have again noticed a bit of difference. I am now looking to get some advice of you guys on this site as to what make, type of protein (if that) I should go for now. Am 21, go the the gym 3-4 times a week and looking to buff out for the summer! We all want a great beach body and I am one of them! So please HELP! :) Cheers people !!

Also I am getting advised by a friend that promax extreme or maximuscle cyclone is the way to go?? Is this correct?

[dagame80]

I recently purchased a small tub of VPX's Zero Carb ZeroTein. It's a Quadrafiltered Whey Isolate. I've only used it a couple of times so far, but I was wondering if any of you have had experience with it and if so is it good or bad. Also, has anyone had experience using VPX's Zero Impact Super Protein? It's a mix of micellar Casein, Egg Albumin and Whey isolate.

[dispense]

Just purchased:
Post-Workout (Fast Absorbtion):
1. Beverly Intl. Muscle Provider

Sustained Release (Slow)
1. Ultimate Muscle Protein

Seen this listed quite a few times by some 'seemingly' knowledgeable people. Seems to be a more quality and less mainstream prodcut from what I read. Plus, its not sold in GNC which I like =b

I'll let you all know what I think after a few weeks!

[mysilentcuffs]

Upon reading these posts, I have not decided yet on which one. I wonder what you opinions on Cytosport Muscle Milk is. I read about this:-

"World?s first evolutionary muscle builder

Muscle Milk helps to grow muscle faster than gainers, whey, or even creatine. This increased muscle growth is possible because Muscle Milk is the first product patterned after Nature?s ultimate anabolic food ? human mother?s milk.
Locked within the composition of human mother?s milk are long-held secrets to muscle growth potential. After years of study, we have actually duplicated these important muscle growth factors into Muscle Milk.

Muscle milk helps you grow muscle like never before, even for the hardest gainers!
While human milk is the quintessential growth promoter, we found ways to improve on it for even greater muscle synthesis. For example, we reduced lactose and fat, while discovering a way to recreate the lean-promoting lipids in human milk.

LeanLipidsTM burns fat?instead of storing it!
Leading scientists assessing the true role of fats in increasing lean muscle growth have shown all fats are not created equal. The type of fat determines whether you use it for muscle energy or store it as body fat! The LEANLIPIDS used in Muscle Milk promote fat loss 3 ways:

Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCTs) the predigested ?fast burning fats? are more likely burned for muscle energy and heat than stored as fat. Of total lipids, human mother?s milk contains approximately 20% MCTs. Muscle Milk replicates this important lipid structure.

Long-chain polysaturated fatty acids are also less likely to be stored as fat. Special enzyme engineering makes these lipids more functional, enhancing mineral retention and anti-inflammatory response.

Recent research reveals calories with engineered lipids, taken before and during workouts, promote leanness. It is thought that these calories are used for workout energy, with less deposited as fat.

So while Muscle Milk may contain slightly more fat than low-fat-high-carb products, our LEANLIPIDS are designed to help you get leaner.

EVOPRO- nature?s ultimate anabolic protein amino blend

Human milk is composed of unique and highly complex proteins, peptides and amino acids, which promote rapid muscle tissue growth. Nature created this precise mix to stimulate muscle growth to higher levels, and EVOPRO is the ultimate nitrogen delivery source.

Studies show that growth factors found in mother?s milk can wake up inborn growth receptors even in adults. These growth receptors, which help boost immunity and growth in infants, are ?turned on? to exert anabolic metabolism. Whether you are 4 or 44, these growth receptors are ready to be awakened, and lactose free Muscle Milk is the best way.

These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any diseases."

[Kais3r]

Can somone please tell me what I should get.

[IllenVillain]

dymatize elite is bomb, its a bit expensive but worth it.

[mysilentcuffs]

As of right now Muscle Milk Chocolate mint..Giving me great Lean Muscle Gains

Is it Cytosport Muscle Milk that you are currently using? How long have you been using this? Can you please share with me on when and how you consume it? Thanks,bro.

[TuxAubrey]

EAS 100% Whey is my Protein of choice. Great taste and great value.

[dgcoats]

I was reading through some (not all) of the posts here and I don't think this protein was mentioned. I've tried generic wheys, ON whey, Nitro-tech, syntha-6 and Muscle Milk in addition to HDT's protein, and IMO Premium Pro-Rated is the best all around protein (price, effectiveness, taste). Anyone else agree (or disagree)?

[G.W. Hayduke]

All you need is right here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107561771

[GAMEOVER-]

Nothing beats SAN Infusion or CNP Profesional Propeptide, nothing . Both are the only proteins to cover ALL your protein needs while provideing digestive support.

SANs Infusion and CNPs Propeptide I would put up against any protein powder in the world. Nothing comes close-

[Shawdowfox]

do you guys think that the ON pro complex is worth it or just go with the regular ON 100% gold standard whey?

[Jakester8383]

I've taken Pro Complex and personally think its very effective, I don't know the price difference but if it isn't too much get it.

[Dizzydog]

Anyone tried the Problend 55 by Labrada?

I was looking at the nutritional facts today and was impressed. Taste good like the Lean Bodies?

[scottymac710]

I've had a few flavors of the problend 55, nutritionally its great for a night-time protein or a low-carb MRP if you add in some oil or flax, but the taste isnt the best .. i'd personally advise against the mocha capp. flavor, not that its terrible but the others ive tried have been better, tho mixing the mocha in with a mug of coffee during the day is pretty damn good

[janjo]

i use dark evolution's red cell blitz, post workout- 15g whey peptides, 10g whey isolates, 8g bcaa, 6g glutamaine...
wouldnt that be cool...

dark evolution's red cell blitz? I did a search and couldnt find anything on this...

[Chuckler3]

i just recently decided to start taking supplements of any kind. i was recommended cytogainer cause of it's fatty acids, 54g of protein and 3g of creatine.. hopefully this works out cause he also "prescribed" no-explode, this should be a fun week at the gym getting used to this.

[kwstag5]

I got some Optiumum nutrition whey gold 100% strawberry :D

Hell ****ing yeah bro, lol, I got the same **** (along with the chocolate one) and it rocks. Too bad they dont have a strawB casein so I can mix them =[

[reallyquietman]

I tried the ErgoPharm GF-Pro Mango/Pineapple and the only thing I can say is disgusting. I read an article on here giving it a 20/20 score so I figure I'd try it out, wasted 30 bucks... After reading this thread which I should have searched for in the first place I decided to go with what many people have suggested, Optimum Whey. I should have chosen a milk mix protein in the first place...

[alphaproject]

Anyone have any info on Undenatured whey protein isolate compared to what is normally in most protein powders?

Blue Bonnet Whey of Life claims it's better for you.

I've never actually tried it before but I have a sample of it siting here. Is it really better for you?

[GAMEOVER-]

I tried the ErgoPharm GF-Pro Mango/Pineapple and the only thing I can say is disgusting. I read an article on here giving it a 20/20 score so I figure I'd try it out, wasted 30 bucks... After reading this thread which I should have searched for in the first place I decided to go with what many people have suggested, Optimum Whey. I should have chosen a milk mix protein in the first place...

That would be a big mistake. ONs Whey is not that good at all. You need a quality WPI and Ergopharms is among the best. Try Dutch Choclate or Vanilla, the tastes do take some getting use to but the quality and digestive support is rare in proteins these days.

Read my reviews in my bodyspace.



I would have to say ON PRO COMPLEX hands down! I've tried many many different protein supplements but because of the mix of different proteins, BCAA's, Glutamine, Vitamins and Minerals and the taste makes every shake a little treat since I have about 3-4 shakes a day. The negative of course that it's a little more pricey, but well worth it IMO! If I had to settle for ON this would be the product of choice for me as well.


Can somone please tell me what I should get. Yeah, a brain so you can make your OWN decision on whats right for you.

[bigreece17]

what would you guys recomend for a grate muscel building protien

[bigreece17]

what is the best vaso dilator you have used

[OtsegoX]

Optimum 100% Gold Standard Chocolate Whey
BCAA's and the purest Optimum Whey there is :)

If You really wanna be technical about it, an Egg Protein Powder should be the most efficient and best powder on the market.. but i prefer eggs sooo..

[OtsegoX]

That would be a big mistake. ONs Whey is not that good at all. You need a quality WPI and Ergopharms is among the best. Try Dutch Choclate or Vanilla, the tastes do take some getting use to but the quality and digestive support is rare in proteins these days.

Read my reviews in my bodyspace.



Big mistake? Explain your logic behind this (I did read your reviews btw and you don't knock the ON Whey i use like that) As long as your not one of those guys who believes in that magical over 100 WPI (impossible) then NO. ON's Whey is not trash. Concentrate is less absorbable, yes.. but it is also slower burning than isolates (partly why it's not as absorbable) So as far as being "not that good at all" That is far from the truth. It's not as efficient as Isolates but damn near as good as it gets.

[email_mikel]

Isolate's are great post-WO. Fast absorbtion!

[bigreece17]

i am starting to think about doing some body building comps by the end of this year. does anyone have any helpfull hints on how i can get huge fast.with out useing gear.;-)

[cwrigh5]

I was wondering is it best to buy separate proteins for PWO and then one for the rest of day and night?

Like a predominately Whey protein (if not just whey), and then a more of a combo protein with a higher casein ratio?

Sounds like Whey isolate is the way to go if just buying Whey,

Any recommendations?

Any recommendations on a low fat and carb whey/casein/egg protein?

[Burk2100]

I would have to agree with alot of people on this thread and say Optimum 100% whey, it has a great amino acid profile, and is made from 100% whey protein isolates so it is very high quality, mixed with some creatine and some dextrose it is great post workout, and plus extreme milk chocolate is probably one of the best tasting protein powders i have ever tried.

[XxSetTripp1n]

i just purchased optimums whey protein. and on the directions it says to mix one scoop in 8 ounces of water or milk. but i heard you should take the amount of your weight in grams. for example im 200 pounds so i should take 200 grams of protein. every scoop is only 31 grams so that means i have to take about 6 and a half scoops. that seems like a little bit too much. is that correct?

[Raidah13]

The idea is correct of taking a gram of protein per pound of body weight, but you dont need to get every gram of protein through powder form. Eating food contributes to your protein intake as well.

[XxSetTripp1n]

The idea is correct of taking a gram of protein per pound of body weight, but you dont need to get every gram of protein through powder form. Eating food contributes to your protein intake as well.

thanks

[GAMEOVER-]

Big mistake? Explain your logic behind this (I did read your reviews btw and you don't knock the ON Whey i use like that) As long as your not one of those guys who believes in that magical over 100 WPI (impossible) then NO. ON's Whey is not trash. Concentrate is less absorbable, yes.. but it is also slower burning than isolates (partly why it's not as absorbable) So as far as being "not that good at all" That is far from the truth. It's not as efficient as Isolates but damn near as good as it gets.

The way I see it why settle for less? It's your body youll do as you wish but there is far better out there. ON was only big because of its cost effectiveness, this is changing. Why settle for ONs Whey when you can get a WPI WITH digestive support like Ergopharms GF Pro, etc.. The flavoring systems are better to. ON needs to update their formula, desperately or lower price to compete in tomorrows market.

[13bret]

dymatize elite,and american nutrition are both very good

[seanf76]

i use a few differnet proteind through the day

right after a workout i use nitro tech

and before bed i use syntha 6

the rest of the times i use on 100

if in a rush i have a small fridge in my workout room full of the worldwide protein shakes (rtd)

[TTTMills]

everyone has the hype of gold standard 100. which is very large in the market... Personally I like BEVERLY ULTIMATE MUSCLE

[JReynolds51]

what brand of proteins has these ergopharms?

[email_mikel]

what brand of proteins has these ergopharms?

ErgoPharm is the brand. GF Pro is the protein that he's talking about.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/gf.html

[MikeyD 29]

SportPharma Just-WHEY is cheap( $38.99 on bodybuilding.com for 5lbs) and tastes goood :-)

My personal favorite is strawberry

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sport/justwhey.html

[GottaGain]

I use AST VP2 Whey Protein and Muscle Milk, hell my trainer gave them to me for free, I'm gonna order more though.

[tim5]

wow alot of people love gold standard,yes it is cheap and yes it tastes great.But ive found better results with MRI PRO_NOS it is more money.but its worth the extra bucks.And it tastes great with milk or even plain water.

[C_DuCh]

Oh yea the ON 100% gold...I love it.

But with milk it taste like SHI!

[tomoo]

Any opinions on Healthy n Fit 100% egg protein. Musclemilk, or Absolutely Pure Whey?
Good or crappy?

[Lean-n-Mean]

Six Star Pro Pre and post Muscle Milk before bed.

[jrizzle4122]

CYTO GAINER by Cytosport banana creme flavor

[llllern]

TP offers the best IMOP

[email_mikel]

Any opinions on Healthy n Fit 100% egg protein. Musclemilk, or Absolutely Pure Whey?
Good or crappy?

Im using HnF Egg. tastes good, effective.

[krauser929]

On 100% Gold is best, but I would only recommend the fruit flavors, you will typically be mixing whey with water post workout and all I can say is...just imagine cookies and cream flavored water....fckin disgusting

[TheFugitive]

using MAP's freak fix, almost finished with the tub, muscles are harder than usual, taste is pretty good, best thing no bloat digests very well with me, i usually bloat with most proteins.

[david100proof]

best one ive had is the six star 50 grams from walmart

[vince panell]

I use Cytogain . It supplies the protein I need with out all the other stuff. It has supplied me with more lean mass than anything else I have tried.

[sfrank2010]

i have body fortress and i've seen some massive gains but i would like to know which would be better, muscle juice or on's whey protein? muscle juice has more saturated fat and calories but is also alot cheaper so idk. any suggestions?

[Fire8085]

Muscle Juice has a lot of sugar.

[Trem24]

Lets see I've tried:

Muscle Milk - Tasted good and saw some results but felt I should've seen more for the amount of time I was putting into the gym.

GNC 100% Whey Protein - Tasted like ****.

ON 100% Whey and Pro Complex - I use both, Pro mainly for post workout, both taste good and work good.

Syntha-6 - Like the slow digesting proteins and amino acids. Good for taking right before bed, thats what I do.

[SCL80]

ON pro complex=60g protein per serving
ON serious mass- when trying to put some weight on

[Doc Mahns]

I use pro complex, bunch of goodies in it, a few different types of protein. It's more expensive, but each serving is 2 scoops and 60 grams protein per serving. I cut mine in half because i don't need 60 grams at once unless i'm trying to replace a meal. so it's a little more expensive, but a lot more bang for your buck vs. 100% Whey

[Da_Broox_]

Awesome protein powder and i just take it with milk and pour in 100% pasteurized egg whites. you will see results.

[chinchillables]

I just use whatever's available. Prefer TUNA over anything though as far as protein goes.


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[jebbers]

san volu-mass is absolutely the best deal around, huge results and pretty cheap, taste isnt bad either

[JC480]

EAS (Vanilla) 5 pound bag of protein powder from Costco @ $34.00

Cheaper that just about everyone, very high quality, doesn't cause (me) gas and tastes damn good.

[1down5up]

Anyone ever use Myogenix Myolean evolution protein?

[jdawg159753]

pre-workout:
2 androbolix pills (daily dosage)
black powder
6 nitrace pill form (daily dosage)

post workout:
50g ON 100% WHEY protein
3 scoops Muscletech Anabolic HALO

I am almost through my first tub of Anabolic Halo and half way through my first cycle of Androbolix Testosterone Amplifiers. Basically my goal is to put on massive size asap without taking harmful supplements. I also own ISS Re-Satr8 creatine but have not been taking it because it upsets my stomach to take creatine the anabolic halo and protein all post-workout and have it all sit in my stomach.

What do you guys think about what I am currently taking? Please help me out with suggestions on what supplements I could change up or add into my program. My main goal is to put as much muscle mass on as possible especially in my arms and also wants to get a strong, cut core/stomach. Would a fat burner be efficient and safe to add in?

[omnisin]

My local GNC is selling a 5lb ON pro complex for 35 bucks...but it expires in 3 months. Should I get it? It IS alot of carbs in serving though...

[alphaproject]

You'll go thru it way before 3 months. That's a great deal, go for it.

[kwstag5]

On Whey/casein.

[kwstag5]

pre-workout:
2 androbolix pills (daily dosage)
black powder
6 nitrace pill form (daily dosage)

post workout:
50g ON 100% WHEY protein
3 scoops Muscletech Anabolic HALO

I am almost through my first tub of Anabolic Halo and half way through my first cycle of Androbolix Testosterone Amplifiers. Basically my goal is to put on massive size asap without taking harmful supplements. I also own ISS Re-Satr8 creatine but have not been taking it because it upsets my stomach to take creatine the anabolic halo and protein all post-workout and have it all sit in my stomach.

What do you guys think about what I am currently taking? Please help me out with suggestions on what supplements I could change up or add into my program. My main goal is to put as much muscle mass on as possible especially in my arms and also wants to get a strong, cut core/stomach. Would a fat burner be efficient and safe to add in?

You are wasting your money on bull**** (anabolic halo). So dont expect UBER MASSSVE GAYNS D00D lmfao

[Mr_Kinney]

I've been using the ON 100% whey after the gym. I get the 16 multi flavour pack because I like the variety in tastes.

[smorgan1227]

I mix my protein with ice and water, so it replaces my craving for ice cream. Which protein powder taste the best. There seems to be a huge difference in taste from one product to the other.

[david100proof]

ive gotten good results out of 6 star brand it mixes easy and taste good