Best Protein Powder For Gaining Muscle?

[Crabb651]

does neone have any opinions on a weight gainer? i already take 100% whey but i work 7 days a week 12 hours a day and its hard for me to get a lot of calories in to gain muscle. neone have any opinions on the best out there

[noedm]

How is the GNC wheyabolic protein. That's what I'm curently taking. Noticed I haven't seen anyone taking that stuff. So I'm thinking it's not any good.

[arshah]

does neone have any opinions on a weight gainer? i already take 100% whey but i work 7 days a week 12 hours a day and its hard for me to get a lot of calories in to gain muscle. neone have any opinions on the best out there

i use universal real gains, but why don't you look under the best weight gainer section

[arshah]

Best Protein Powder For Gaining Muscle??

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I?ve been using Muscle Gauge Pure Whey Protein Isolate which has 24g protein per serving. Only 1 g of sugar per serving, Zero lactose, zero cholesterol, and the amino acid profile is good. Now I have tried many Whey Protein Isolate shakes but Muscle Gauge Pure Whey Protein Isolate taste the best, is the least expensive, and I have seen results in my body in a short amount of time. My body has transformed and I have gained lean muscle and my strength has increased amazingly in a months time.

where do you get it from, its not on here and not in my local gnc?

[Moody72]

How is the GNC wheyabolic protein. That's what I'm curently taking. Noticed I haven't seen anyone taking that stuff. So I'm thinking it's not any good.

the new amplified wheybolic extreme 60 is good but its rediculously expensive

[Jeph77]

just bought some syntha-6 guna see how it goes, im used to On 100% ill see which is better.

[alexander323bc]

For those of who who are having trouble gaining. Its one of these 2 things or its both, honestly in my experience its usually both. Your not training hard enough and your not eating right. Over the last 4 weeks i have been taking pro complex half hour before my workout and 100%whey right after. If your having trouble making gains and if your pushing yourself this with a proper diet you will see some good gains. And proper nutrition means DRINKING WATER!

[noedm]

the new amplified wheybolic extreme 60 is good but its rediculously expensive

Yeah so far I like it. Taste pretty good. And I bought it when it was buy one get one half off. or else I wouldn't have got it. thanks

[ctAL860]

Yeah so far I like it. Taste pretty good. And I bought it when it was buy one get one half off. or else I wouldn't have got it. thanks

im not a GNC guy at all, but i just checked the profile on this an im pretty impressed.this is def the kind of protein im looking for. I was looking at isoflex also.

[Djin]

double rich chocolate ftw

My last three tubs have been this flavor. This is my new "crack" in a tub.

[ctAL860]

I think the best protein powder is "Muscle Gauge Pure Whey Protein Isolate". First of all it taste great and I don?t feel stuffed and bloated after I drink it. I have gained lean muscle and my strength has increased amazingly in a short period of time. Its amino acid profile is fantastic and it?s also lactose fee, sugar free, and fat free!!!

you can only get this stuff from ONE website at the moment, you work for them?

[arshah]

you can only get this stuff from ONE website at the moment, you work for them?

which website do you get it from?

[MadRanga]

Just bought Ultimate Nutritions Iso Mass XTREME Gainer yesterday.
I got the chocolate / peanut butter flavour which aint half bad.

obviously i don't have anything to say on results quite yet.
has anyone else used this product with water as a lean gainer? what were your results like?

[ctAL860]

which website do you get it from?

muscleandstrength

[noedm]

im not a GNC guy at all, but i just checked the profile on this an im pretty impressed.this is def the kind of protein im looking for. I was looking at isoflex also.

has anyone else tried gnc wheybolic. and yeah im not a gnc brand person at all. but i got to give it to them it's pretty good.

[asalways]

i use universal real gains, but why don't you look under the best weight gainer section

how are ur results with Real Gains!

[Lil_rowe2000]

Elite whey protein by dymatize

[member666]

http://www.tracker-analytics.com/track/img/3360/s09v0317fvxp/00.gif Definitely gotta go with ON's 100% whey

I used that stuff. It's good. I think in terms of Whey Protein, I might check out SportPharma or CytoSport. But I've also heard good things about Dymatize. Ughhh!! Too many to choose from.

[pmpnballer0311]

I tried IsoPure and liked it but nothing compares to the gains I have received while on PRO COMPLEX

60g of proteins
like a billion bcaas and 10g of glutamine

best protein on the market HANDS DOWN

[Djin]

I tried IsoPure and liked it but nothing compares to the gains I have received while on PRO COMPLEX

60g of proteins
like a billion bcaas and 10g of glutamine

best protein on the market HANDS DOWN

Lol. Yeah, Pro Complex is pretty beast! I love it, but it's so costly.

[ctAL860]

pro complex is a waste if you follow serving, do one scoop thats like 30g.

[Djin]

pro complex is a waste if you follow serving, do one scoop thats like 30g.

Lol. Who follows the directions on protein? ;)

[munozsm]

iso senstation 93 by ultimate nutrition. but its on the pricey side.

[gentao]

what shake out has the most protein per serving? Are they all the same 29-32 grams

[Bong_Hitta]

While people at the start of the thread were saying 100% whey proteins were junk and that the 'designer' proteins were superior are sort of right...but whey protein is amazing and both proteins should be utilized.

A whey protein should be used during the active hours, when you are quite simply keeping your blood in a positive nitrogen balance: however the time release qualities and the BCAA's in the other 'designer' protein powders are the best before bed and first thing in the morning. That is my personal idea anyhow after my research.

Also, the expensive 'designer' proteins aren't necessary. MegaShake by Dymatize has a fat content that scares people off, but it's the good fats and basically a serving before bed and one in the morning are perfect in combination with a 100% whey protein used throughout the day.

[SoulBurn18]

I tried Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey Double Rich Chocolate tonight and the taste to me was like milk with not enough chocolate syrup. Any suggestions on how to improve the flavor of it?

[AnEn1gma]

I tried Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey Double Rich Chocolate tonight and the taste to me was like milk with not enough chocolate syrup. Any suggestions on how to improve the flavor of it?

You guys are really little girls about the whole taste thing. It's protein....not a four course meal. I'd eat cat anus if it made me a lot stronger.

[SoulBurn18]

You guys are really little girls about the whole taste thing. It's protein....not a four course meal. I'd eat cat anus if it made me a lot stronger.

Wow, thank you for your intelligent and helpful response.

[ctparks]

I feel like most protein powders are similar in results, but I prefer Xtreme Formulations Whey 10 lb. bag. It has made me gain alot due to its bulk size and cheap price

[AnEn1gma]

Wow, thank you for your intelligent and helpful response.

Sorry man, thanks for the mature response. I mix freeze dried Acai powder in and it tastes better. Agreed that ONs stuff is average on taste.

[SoulBurn18]

Sorry man, thanks for the mature response. I mix freeze dried Acai powder in and it tastes better. Agreed that ONs stuff is average on taste.

It's cool, I actually found a way to make it and any other protein powder taste GREAT!!

I put 1 serving of the protein powder, 1 serving of organic peanut butter, 8oz of skim milk and 1 cup of ice in a blender. Turns it into a high protein smoothie. Tastes AMAZING!!!

[xStriker7]

So far my top two favorites are

ON 100% Gold Standard Whey
BSN Syntha-6

[fortybelow]

IM using Muscle Milk. Big tub costs like 25bucks (or less) at costco. Its got 26 grams of protein per serving and its not all whey which I think is good if you take it late at night. Its also got 2 grams of glutamine per serving. Taste is OK but hey, Im not drinking it for the taste.

[DragOn133]

Forty if you aren't drinking muscle milk for the taste then I highly suggest you dump it and get something with FAR better quality , as that's garbage IMO !

[SoulBurn18]

Forty if you aren't drinking muscle milk for the taste then I highly suggest you dump it and get something with FAR better quality , as that's garbage IMO !

While I am a BIG fan of Muscle Milk (especially in Smoothies and their RTD Shakes), if you don't like the taste, get rid of it. For the same price you can get much better proteins.

[The Slave]

Allmax IsoFlex.

A little pricey, but taste's great. 100% Isolate. The best in my opinion.

[caffeinecowboy]

Allmax IsoFlex.

A little pricey, but taste's great. 100% Isolate. The best in my opinion.

While the product isn't really a 100% whey isolate, (NOS Complex, Glutamine etc) it does have a lot of great additives and what whey protein it does have is of the highest quality. It is pricey, but you're getting things like glutamine peptides, ALA and NAC which are valuable nutrients that you may pay additional for anyway, if they were purchased seperately.

[proteintime]

i use the whey protein from costco, its only 21 bucks and you get 45 servings at 20grams per serving ,and taste great.

[MadRanga]

Just bought Ultimate Nutritions Iso Mass XTREME Gainer yesterday.
I got the chocolate / peanut butter flavour which aint half bad.

obviously i don't have anything to say on results quite yet.
has anyone else used this product with water as a lean gainer? what were your results like?


well i've been on this for almost 2 weeks now and i've put on just over 2kgs.
i've been having less than the recommended size serves tho.
2 scoops pre and 2 scoops post work out.
going to the gym 5 days a week also.

it's still early days but it's looking good if i can keep it up.

It will probably turn out to be quite expensive tho as for a 4.5kg tub its like $149 aussie dollars. which looks like it might last a month.

so i might be getting it in combination with another protein (and going to increase my food intake by another meal or 2 per day) and then just take this as 1 scoop before bed for recovery and maybe 1 scoop before breakfast.

time will tell if this is wise

[Klumpurinn]

1) On Whey Gold Standard.
2) Iso Sensation 93.
3) Now Whey Protein.

[thatworkoutguy]

ON 100% Whey

[basscatjoe]

Being using Optimum 100% Whey Protein. Its time to reorder was thinking about switch over to Optimum Pro Complex any pro or cons. I appreciate the help.

[SoulBurn18]

Being using Optimum 100% Whey Protein. Its time to reorder was thinking about switch over to Optimum Pro Complex any pro or cons. I appreciate the help.

There was a guy at the gym who tried the Pro Complex and he said it made him sick (literally). Never tried it myself so I can't give any opinions.

[toRin]

Best I can think of is Avocare Muscle fuel.

https://www.advocare.com/09045164/Store/ItemDetail.aspx?itemCode=P4421&id=B

[Diablomeister]

Wheybolic is not to shabby

[g-unit_ltd]

i would say on 100% whey.... it tastes good enough and gets thejob done.................

[traceur11]

Optimum's 100% Whey =)

[dukend]

I found 5lbs of universal nutrition's ultra whey pro online for 25 dollars, so hopefully that is good enough.

[SoulBurn18]

I found 5lbs of universal nutrition's ultra whey pro online for 25 dollars, so hopefully that is good enough.

That's pretty good. I paid $40 for mine.

[rawballer]

I've used muscle milk for a while, it has a lot of fat in it tho. what do you guys think of it?

I need one for weight loss, but muscle gain. What would be the best for that?

[Nivea]

Just wondering, I've seen many friends using this protein stuff and they gained a lot of muscles and all. But their muscle power is almost the half of what they look like. Whats up with that?

Example, a while ago we were arm wrestling and none of the guys (+-22 year old) using proteins/lifting weights were able to beat a 40 year old little man who has never even done weightlifting (only labour work).

[medium_robin]

You guys are really little girls about the whole taste thing. It's protein....not a four course meal. I'd eat cat anus if it made me a lot stronger.

Freakin' awesome and totally true. I don't know about most people but I just down mine...i don't sip on it for an hour over light conversation with my friends.

I've tried a bunch of different proteins over the years. I agree with the argument that 100% Whey is just the best for general use. That said, I'm going to try ON Pro Complex soon. I like all the additives.

[joshwas335]

Uhhhh, NO

Correct I lost over 100lbs of fat using ON Whey the whole time, great product!!

[BadWog]

I need one for weight loss, but muscle gain. What would be the best for that?

There is nothing that is the best for that.

Unless you have insane genetics you won't be able to lose weight and gain muscle at the same time.

Choose one, and stick with it.

Either way, a good 100% Whey Protein is fine as long as you are eating properly.

Good luck.

[member666]

Example, a while ago we were arm wrestling and none of the guys (+-22 year old) using proteins/lifting weights were able to beat a 40 year old little man who has never even done weightlifting (only labour work). http://www.tracker-analytics.com/track/img/3360/s09v0317fvxp/00.gif

A little off topic but Arm Wrestling is not a good example at all. Arm Wrestling has a lot to do with technique and such. Even fighting wouldn't be a good example as it has to do with technique and experience. Best way to test would be to test over several months. (Progress made once both people start working out at the same time. One with supplements and one without.)

[Nivea]

A little off topic but Arm Wrestling is not a good example at all. Arm Wrestling has a lot to do with technique and such. Even fighting wouldn't be a good example as it has to do with technique and experience. Best way to test would be to test over several months. (Progress made once both people start working out at the same time. One with supplements and one without.)

Ok how about the fact that I can lift as much as the guys in our gym (the ones with oversized muscles) without even forcing my self like they do (they make the funniest faces:p), even though I only train with weights about 5-10 mins (then 2hours mixed cardio training) a day (5days/week) and they are on it for hours.

[peggman]

Zero Carb Isopure - nothing but whey isolate. pure muscle building

[iceguy2003]

People say they are gaining strength and mass from whey? It is not the whey that is doing that, but the BCAA's IN the whey.( esp Leucine ) Probolic is loaded with Glutamine and BCAA's, and will keep you in an anabolic state much longer than your typical whey.

I'm pretty sure whey is great taken before and after your workout.... and other times of the day.

[XTrainToughX]

I would have to agree with all the people talking about ON. they have the best value and selection for protein. Dynamtize comes close though

[Crewdawg]

As with most people on here I'm a ON 100% Whey fanboy. Taste is decent and I have had great results with it.

[saiftee]

ultimate nutrition - ISO mass xtreme gainer
Best mass gainer ive used so far.
its got a little bit of the vitamins in there .. quality protein
ratio of fat/cabs/protein is looking good.

quality fats. i didnt notice myself getting 'out-of-hand' chubby when i used it

[ctAL860]

Unlike all of the hype you hear today, STAY AWAY from whey protein isolate! All isolated proteins are exposed to acid processing, and most have a funky taste. The human body has never adapted to consume protein in an isolated form, devoid of its nutritional cofactors. There are reports that raise concerns regarding their toxic effects on the body. Due to over-processing, protein isolates are rendered deficient in key amino acids and nutritional cofactors.

[caffeinecowboy]

Unlike all of the hype you hear today, STAY AWAY from whey protein isolate! All isolated proteins are exposed to acid processing, and most have a funky taste. The human body has never adapted to consume protein in an isolated form, devoid of its nutritional cofactors. There are reports that raise concerns regarding their toxic effects on the body. Due to over-processing, protein isolates are rendered deficient in key amino acids and nutritional cofactors.

Do you have any scientific evidence to back this up? Undenatured whey isolate is one of the absolute best things you can put in your body. It can increase your body's intercellular glutathione levels which will provide many benefits. Glutathione is your body's master antioxident. It also aids your immune system and helps to detoxify the body.

[iceguy2003]

Whey Isolate's gonna kill meh? Lemme go throw my 5 pound jug out right now!

[iAlex]

I've been using Optimum 100% Whey Protein for 2 weeks now and I think it's a good product , tastes good. I started working out / building muscles a month ago so it's the only protein gainer I've tried so far.

[BadWog]

I've been using Optimum 100% Whey Protein for 2 weeks now and I think it's a good product , tastes good. I started working out / building muscles a month ago so it's the only protein gainer I've tried so far.

And it's a very good one. So long as your diet and training are in check, you will see great gains with this product.

It's probably the cheapest good brand of protein I've been able to find in Australia, and until I find something in the same price range I will not try anything else.

[member666]

And it's a very good one. So long as your diet and training are in check, you will see great gains with this product. http://www.tracker-analytics.com/track/img/3360/s09v0317fvxp/00.gif

It's probably the cheapest good brand of protein I've been able to find in Australia, and until I find something in the same price range I will not try anything else.

It is good stuff. Sucks for people that live outside the US in terms of pricing.

[hatdance]

Glad to see I'm not alone on the whey bandwagon. I really like Ultimate Nutrition Prostar Whey, with micro filtration. I take a scoop before and after a workout. It dissolves easily in water with a stir. It keeps my blood sugar even and gives the muscles the nutrition needed. My local store stopped carrying it so I was glad to find it in the bodybuilding store. Muscle Milk is good too as a fancy alternative.

[hatdance]

Unlike all of the hype you hear today, STAY AWAY from whey protein isolate! All isolated proteins are exposed to acid processing, and most have a funky taste. The human body has never adapted to consume protein in an isolated form, devoid of its nutritional cofactors. There are reports that raise concerns regarding their toxic effects on the body. Due to over-processing, protein isolates are rendered deficient in key amino acids and nutritional cofactors.
My momma always said, "The proof is in the pudding." I'm having great success with whey isolate.

[Lukj287]

i'd say that the Lean Pro Matrix by NLN worked great for me, as opposed to a 2 source or 3 source protein, the 5 source def kept my nitro levels where they needed to be at the right time for optimal size gain.

[21Classic]

Correct I lost over 100lbs of fat using ON Whey the whole time, great product!!

you used to be 330?

[amir_khan]

hey my friends how would you like to compare GASPARI NUTRITION MYOFUSION with other famous protein powders like optimum 100% whey or muscle milk.

i have found that it's rating is increasing all tha time.
it does not contain bcaa or glutamine like optimum100% whey.

is it a good option for a beginner who ia looking for adding some lean muscle mass.

[member666]

I'm ordering some protein this weekend. I've compiled a list here. I hope this will help some of you in choosing the protein you want. List is based on price and servings. Yeah Yeah, I know there other brands I missed but there are WAY too many to choose from. I'm probably gonna order both #1 and #2 on my list. Your welcome in advance :)
[misspelled Dymatize, whatever]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h16/Sgt_Koopa/ProteinByPrice.jpg

[lucky_l3fty]

Optimum's 100% Whey is working great for me

[TRUEmass88]

Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein all the way BABYYY

[navycm]

need some advice. im in the military deployed to GTMO Cuda and they only have a select few proteins for me to chose from at the NEX. i normally use Syntha6 and cant get it here and dont really see myself using another brand ever, but since i cant get it i need to change it up till i get home in Aug. ordering online is usually how i get my stuff but it takes far to long for me to get mail here ill just buy it at the NEX. the ones i can get are:

EAS 100% Whey
Twinlab 100% Whey
Myoplex
Freak Fix
Muscle Milk

my question is which of these would you all use? i really have no experience w/ any of these. thanks in advance.

[anthony_b]

I had used ON Whey for about three years and then one month I switched to the EAS 5lbs. bag I found at Sams club for less then $30 becuase I was low on cash that day. I kept on using it for a few months and really liked it. This morning I happened to have both containers side by side, and I was able to compare the WHEY SOURCES/CONTENTS. To my shock they were BOTH EXACTLEY the same !!....ON adds Glutamine (4gr) that was the only thing I noticed.

[member666]

I had used ON Whey for about three years and then one month I switched to the EAS 5lbs. bag I found at Sams club for less then $30 becuase I was low on cash that day. I kept on using it for a few months and really liked it. This morning I happened to have both containers side by side, and I was able to compare the WHEY SOURCES/CONTENTS. http://www.tracker-analytics.com/track/img/3360/s09v0317fvxp/00.gif To my shock they were BOTH EXACTLEY the same !!....ON adds Glutamine (4gr) that was the only thing I noticed.

Yeah it's crazy man. It's the branding, advertising, and packaging that costs money. The product is dirt cheap.

[1down5up]

EAS has much higher cholesterol in it.

[alfonsillo]

Met rx, ON, Dymatize, Prolab... no difference on muscle gains but dymatizes taste great!

[lax23]

used to use nitro tech hardcore which actually helped me put on a decent amount of muscle...but i switched to the same EAS stuff the guy above me was talkin about cuz i was low on cash too!

[Dsquared15]

Best Protein Powder For Gaining Muscle??

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If you had to pick just ONE protein powder for gaining muscle, what would be the best one for the best results?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take protein, if protein works, or why some protein powders do not work. Just list your absolute favorite protein powder and give your detailed reason.)

Cytogainer is the best in my opinion

[JoeyPenz]

I bought a 6lb bag of EAS premium protien @ Costco for $30, which was my 1st bag of protein, and it did add a decent amount of muscle...now I got about 2 scoops left. From this, my next protien will be ON 100% whey (of course)...thinking about a 2lb tub just to make sure Ill like it. Anyone know of a site to get it for cheap or have a savings code?

[MuscleMike15]

hey has anyone tried isopure whey protein isolate and which flavor is the best?

[One_More_Round]

so out of the AST VP2 and ON Gold Standard 100% whey you all think ON is better?
reason why im asking is that i headr very good things about VP2 but it is alot more expensive then ON and if ON does the job as good if not better then VP2 then theres no point me getting VP2

[JolietKev]

I have been using ON's Nitrocore for some time now and really like it. Does anyone have any thoughts on this product?

[Kvothe]

i heard combinations of fast and sustained release proteins are best. syntrax matrix anyone?

[NtwoPhenomenon]

I use one of those No Explode products called mass muscle or something.

[jjl5098]

pro complex by optimum

[miamibombero]

hey has anyone tried isopure whey protein isolate and which flavor is the best?

i've been on this stuff for about 2 years and i do the alpine punch flavor. it kinda tastes like you're drinking vomit but compared to the other isopures, its the best one. what i like the most is that it has zero carbs, no fat and it goes to work fast. if u read any article it will tell you to get this fast protein in first thing when you wake up and right after working out. 50g per serving! i do monster milk just before bed as this has some slow proteins to hold me over through the night and its so sooo delicious! monster milk also has 50g per serving.

[jaytee1]

Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein all the way BABYYY

true dat my brotha it is the best I have come across so far and gaspari myofusion is a close second

[jaytee1]

hey my friends how would you like to compare GASPARI NUTRITION MYOFUSION with other famous protein powders like optimum 100% whey or muscle milk.

i have found that it's rating is increasing all tha time.
it does not contain bcaa or glutamine like optimum100% whey.

is it a good option for a beginner who ia looking for adding some lean muscle mass.

go with optimum whey

[gr8mog]

The NEX can be limited when carrying sports supplements...I'm a former sailor and I had minor problems in the past especially outside of the U.S.

Based on your list I would choose Muscle Milk as my top one; second would be EAS 100% Whey; third would be Twinlab 100% Whey. Everything else on the list forget it. By the way Myoplex is made by EAS, however Myoplex is more of a Meal Replacement Drink/Powder and a daily nutrition supplement vice a straight protein supplement. So unless you want Myoplex stick with the straight protein supps.

Stay safe and thanks for your service!


need some advice. im in the military deployed to GTMO Cuda and they only have a select few proteins for me to chose from at the NEX. i normally use Syntha6 and cant get it here and dont really see myself using another brand ever, but since i cant get it i need to change it up till i get home in Aug. ordering online is usually how i get my stuff but it takes far to long for me to get mail here ill just buy it at the NEX. the ones i can get are:

EAS 100% Whey
Twinlab 100% Whey
Myoplex
Freak Fix
Muscle Milk

my question is which of these would you all use? i really have no experience w/ any of these. thanks in advance.

[rawls]

optimum whey is the best tasting ive found and the banana cream and the capchino moca is outstanding

[Hitstik09]

def gotta go with gold standard whey. Good results and tastes pretty good. The drop in Whey prices have been nice, thats a good buy too.

[Djin]

I bought a 6lb bag of EAS premium protien @ Costco for $30, which was my 1st bag of protein, and it did add a decent amount of muscle...now I got about 2 scoops left. From this, my next protien will be ON 100% whey (of course)...thinking about a 2lb tub just to make sure Ill like it. Anyone know of a site to get it for cheap or have a savings code?

Why not use this site? You can't really get it any cheaper. I have found some deals at GNC when the ON would be "dated" in a month or two and then bought a 5lb tub on a gold week for about $30. :) Couldn't pass that up.

Obviously, this site is top-notch for a good price.

[member666]

So for the last few months, I've been pimping out ON 100% Whey. I recently discovered Muscle Gauge "Premium Blend Whey Protein".

A side by side comparison to ON 100% Whey, and you will see that Muscle Gauge is the winner. Okay, so it has 22 grams of protein instead of 24 grams. But it also has less carbs, lower cholesterol, lower fat, lower sodium, and a great Amino Acid profile.
Muscle Gauge: 5lb Tub for $29.99
ON 100% Whey: 5lb Tub for $42.99

For 2grams of less protein, I'm willing to take Muscle Gauge over ON 100% Whey. Muscle Gauge also mixes very easily. The weak point for some may be the flavor. I have the Chocolate Mint. It tastes great to me because the flavor is not very strong, which is the way I prefer it. (Personal preference I guess). Also, I did not notice any after taste.

[TortureMaster]

So for the last few months, I've been pimping out ON 100% Whey. I recently discovered Muscle Gauge "Premium Blend Whey Protein".

A side by side comparison to ON 100% Whey, and you will see that Muscle Gauge is the winner. Okay, so it has 22 grams of protein instead of 24 grams. But it also has less carbs, lower cholesterol, lower fat, lower sodium, and a great Amino Acid profile.
Muscle Gauge: 5lb Tub for $29.99
ON 100% Whey: 5lb Tub for $42.99

For 2grams of less protein, I'm willing to take Muscle Gauge over ON 100% Whey. Muscle Gauge also mixes very easily. The weak point for some may be the flavor. I have the Chocolate Mint. It tastes great to me because the flavor is not very strong, which is the way I prefer it. (Personal preference I guess). Also, I did not notice any after taste.
Actually if you look at the size of the scoop ON is equal or less protein per gram. choclate is 32gr scoop /24gr protein = 75% protein.MGN is 78% with less carbs and fat.

[Sharkfrenz]

Best Protein Powder For Gaining Muscle??

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If you had to pick just ONE protein powder for gaining muscle, what would be the best one for the best results?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take protein, if protein works, or why some protein powders do not work. Just list your absolute favorite protein powder and give your detailed reason.)
whey protien

[Dibatista]

Optimum whey https://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif

x2 ON's WHEY gets my vote. <3 Vanilla

[caffeinecowboy]

whey protien

You are correct, in my humble opinion. Whey protein may be one of the single most important nutrients for your overall health available today. The best type of whey protein however is whey protein isolate. WPI can be made from either an ion exchange process or a cross flow filtration process. The cross flow filtration process generally yields the better quality WPI. A cold cross flow filtration also referred to a non-denatured (non-pasturized) isolate is the optimum choice. Species Nutrition Isolyze is an example of this type of protein. There is also one not offered here at BB.com, but is made in Hawaii, called HawaiiMana.

[Danger_Close]

hey guys i can get the 2.91 tub of syntha-6 for 24 bucks. you think that is a better way to go(get 2 different flavor tubs) rather than spending the 43 bucks for a 5 pound tub of myofusion? At the moment i have a unopened tub of myofusion vanilla, but that was my last protein and i dont want to get sick of the flavor half way though the tub, so im contemplating taking it back. That happened when I was taking ON, the stuff would made me vomit.

[MrAnaconda]

IMO get some whey. Throw in oats, Natty Peanut Butter, low fat cottage cheese and some sliced almonds & banana. Best gainer there is.

[J-Cubed]

Cytosport Complete Whey. I like the amino acid profile and the ingredients. Solid whey powder.

[tonay613]

Optimums Pro Complex in my opinion is the best pure shredded muscle protein supplement. Packed with 30 grams of protein in one scoop and loads of BCAA's.

[Staxed1989]

Hi guys. Just to say if any of you have any questions regarding protein, you are welcome to post here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=117796871

[Shoosh]

So it'd be hard to read 100 and whatever pages there are of favorite whey's, but from the few I have read, the general consensus seems to favor ON 100% Whey Gold Standard, is that agreed?

(I just started taking GNC Pro Performance Wheybolic Extreme 60, after taking designer whey for a long time, as I heard some good things about it from a friend, but it's very expensive).

[rawballer]

How often do you guys drink optimum 100% whey? I drink it after my workouts, but I've also been drinking it with my breakfast lately.

And I have muscle milk as well. How often should I drink each?

[WazzuCougar]

ON's 100% Whey, Double Chocolate. I have been using this protein powder for a couple years and it's always helped me to add muscle. Great taste and extremely effective. ON's prices are great and you get a lot of servings!

[WazzuCougar]

How often do you guys drink optimum 100% whey? I drink it after my workouts, but I've also been drinking it with my breakfast lately.

And I have muscle milk as well. How often should I drink each?

It's absorbed into the body extremely fast so you should be careful when you take it to maximize your results. One scoop first thing in the morning (right after waking up) is enough to give your body some quick protein after 8 hours of sleep. Then one scoop about 10-15 minutes before your workout. The next time is crucial to muscle building. Immediately after a hard workout your muscles are primed (better than at any other time) to receive a huge amount of protein, especially the type that absorbs quickly (whey). Two scoops (50-60g) is plenty to get you on your way and help your muscle start recovering.

If this is too much you, I would focus on the pre and post-workout protein more than any other time of the day since this will be crucial to your muscle building efforts.

If money is no object for you, I would suggest also taking a casein protein (ON's Casein). Casein is digested much slower than whey and is best used as a filler protein. Take casein through out the day as you need it and then immediately before you go to bed. This will supply your body with slow digesting protein as you sleep and prevent catabolism until you take your morning whey shake.

As far as the muscle milk goes, it's a great product, especially the taste but it is incredibly expensive. It is predominantly a whey protein, but does have some casein protein in it. This would be best taken post-workout in my opinion.

[JTMONEY86]

So I'm new to all of this and have recently started taking supplements, I see a lot of people really like the optimum 100% but what do you guys think about Isopure?!

[mousey33]

When does everyone take their protein drink and how much?

[CaptainFT]

Hands down Protein Factory Big Blast. Taste is incredible and mixes easily with a spoon. Excellent pre and post workout

[CaptainFT]

When does everyone take their protein drink and how much?

Everyone is different depending on their goals. For me I prefer pre and post workout, thats about it. The rest of the day its a ton of food. I think too many people rely on these powders for their sole source of protein intake. Nothing is better than food...and lots of it

[WazzuCougar]

When does everyone take their protein drink and how much?


Everyone is different depending on their goals. For me I prefer pre and post workout, thats about it. The rest of the day its a ton of food. I think too many people rely on these powders for their sole source of protein intake. Nothing is better than food...and lots of it

I fully agree that it depends on the individual and their goals. My preference is to obtain as much protein through my foods as possible and supplement with protein shakes to make up any deficit. I try to stay in the range of 1-1.3 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight (i.e. for a 200 lb person, that's 200-260 grams) as best I can. At the minimum you should take a preworkout and postworkout protein shake (whey) as well as consider taking a whey shake the second you wake up in the morning. One last thing to consider is taking a casein shake right before bed. The overall goal is to keep your body from slipping into catobolism which is detrimental to building optimum muscle. The preworkout shake will give you a steady flow of aminos for your workout, the postworkout shake will help you on your way to recovery, the pre-bed shake will give you a slow release of proteins while you sleep, and the shake first thing in the morning will pick up where the pre-bed shake left off. I hope this makes sense.

[JTMONEY86]

Hey Wazzu, so How do you know how much protein that is [grams of protein a day per pound of body weight] when you're taking into consideration all the different foods you eat and also protein shakes, right now I've been at least doing pre and post work out and usually once more during the day at some point and also, seeing I'm new to this what is casein, how does that affect you and what would you be looking to get out of it?

[Homer218]

is there a protein shake out there that doesnt contain soy in it thats also effective to build muscle

[WazzuCougar]

Hey Wazzu, so How do you know how much protein that is [grams of protein a day per pound of body weight] when you're taking into consideration all the different foods you eat and also protein shakes, right now I've been at least doing pre and post work out and usually once more during the day at some point and also, seeing I'm new to this what is casein, how does that affect you and what would you be looking to get out of it?

First of all, I would assume that the majority of people probably just estimate their protein intake each day. Some of us are a little more picky though. There are some websites out there which allow you to track your daily calories (i.e. fats, carbs, protein) which can be really handy for those unfamiliar with estimating your daily intake needs. For me, I use a fairly extensive excel spreadsheet that I created to monitor my daily needs.

My best advice for you is to get on a fairly routine eating schedule (within reason, obviously switching out different foods so you don't grow tired of eating the same thing) and count all of the calories (including your fat, carbs, and protein intake for that day) so that you know roughly what you are intaking on a regular basis. That way you can make adjustments to your diet and know that you are eating what you need. For me I try to stick to 20% Fat, 40% Carbs, and 40% Protein in terms of how they contribute to overall calories.

For example (and this is only theoretical), in your case you weight roughly 180lbs. Depending on your bodyweight and your activity level as well as your overall goals, you may require a different caloric intake than someone else your weight. Lets just say for example, that you were roughly 15% body fat an that you worked out 4-5 day a week. You target calories would be in the neighborhood of 2100-2400. Let say you are shooting for 2400 calories. You would aim for approximately 53g fat, 240g carbs, and 240g protein. Now you are concerned with protein intake. You take a pre and post workout shake as well as one other during the day, that's about 75g of protein right there. Just aim to make up the rest (approx. 165g of protein) in actual food (the only way to accurately do it is to count it out once) and make sure you are at or above your protein target.

Last thing, casein protein is a slow digesting protein, where whey is an extremely fast digesting protein. Casein can be thought of a time-released protein and there are many benefits. Casein is great to take before bed because is supplies your body with protein throughout the night. Casein is also great to take throughout your day because of the same reason, it supplies a slow release of protein and is also very filling. Whey on the other hand is absorbed so quickly that it's most beneficial when taken first thing in the morning (upon waking), pre-workout and immediately post-workout.

I hope this helps to explain things a little better for you. Good luck!

[JTMONEY86]

Thanks man that sounds great! I have yet to estimate my % body fat, I've been looking for ways to do this and will soon, my caloric intake a day I haven't calculated but I know I'm roughly taking in 2000-2500 calories a day, I have in the past month totally changed my diet which has definitely shown me results but I am definitely going to be taking that into better consideration, in your opinion what is the best way to get your calculated % body fat?

[delusive]

Xtreme isolate 97 by precision sold in popeyes

37g of protein per serving


its what i use

[orasis1]

1. EAS - 100% Whey Protein Chocolate.

It's good.. so good that I drink it too much forgetting what it's for... I drink it like it's a simple glass of chocolate milk. Expensive chocolate milk.

2. Weider Peach 100% Whey protein Isolate

It was EXTREMELY effective but it was wayyy too expensive for the tiny serving each container offered.

[drikx]

how does iso- sensation 93 match up against ON whey?

[rogerafa]

i think naturebest is the best for gaining weight

[bvt13]

ON Whey is my favorite, its so easy to drink and is always reliable quality

[FighterZero]

i"ve tried many different protein powders....some of them taste better some of them have more grams of protein per scoop....but they all pretty much the same when it comes to effectiveness...well probably more expensive products should be more effective...or at least higher quality..anyway....i like dymatize products..affordable quality stuff....i mix one scoop of protein powder with one scoop of bsn truemass....and take 5 of these shakes per day....works for me)))

[WesD5487]

ON whey - cookies n cream is the way to go. best tasting whey i've had.

[Posum]

how about gaspari myofusion?

[vteckiller142]

Optimums Pro Complex in my opinion is the best pure shredded muscle protein supplement. Packed with 30 grams of protein in one scoop and loads of BCAA's.
some one needs to read the label better

[zoopfly]

ON's 100% Whey Protein. It has been the top protein for the past few years, and i don't see anything moving ahead of it anytime soon.

[Lilpurpl]

im just started to use 100% ON whey...im looking forward to get Pro complex and some casein soon
It tastes pretty good, and mixes great

[loupenguin]

some one needs to read the label better

:)......

[loupenguin]

i think isopure curshes all as of now

[thinker]

been around the horn , love the Styntrax nectar , for results , taise , quality and mixability , hands down so much better then the rest .
Even love the milk and egg , orange cream taiste like ice cream !!!!

[BOOSTEDDUDE]

been around the horn , love the Styntrax nectar , for results , taise , quality and mixability , hands down so much better then the rest .
Even love the milk and egg , orange cream taiste like ice cream !!!!

Man, I bought the Twisted Cherry Syntrax and it was nasty. It tasted ok going down but the aftertaste was horrid. I wanted to try a different fruit whey but this one had a nasty aftertaste. I've never had/tasted aspartame but I'd imagine the aftertaste that lingered in my mouth for hours after drinking this stuff might be a similar taste. Lucky someone bought it from me for $10. Either whey, I guess it might be personal preference but no more syntrax for me. Back to 4everfit fruit wheys. So far 4everfit is my favorite fruit whey. However, I really used to like the GF-Pro Orange Creme but that's no longer made! I guess I got kinda burnt out on the ON's except the Oats and Whey Vanilla Bean!! Yum! Also, my staple is still Syntha-6 wheys.

[callmeG]

i like 100% ON Whey post workout and as a filler when i cant get enough protein in a meal

muscle milk before bed but im sure theres better casein protein shakes out there

[keitznic]

Is Optimum Nutrition's serious mass a good weightgainer?

i just finished a 5lb tub and it wasent that good you need to take 2 of the biggest scoops ever, its says 2 scoops on the tub but the scooper they give you is one like you get in a laundry detergent box

[tibetangojica]

thanks admin for the topic finally :D

ON's 100% Whey Protein

i agree

[jefyou]

I like the quality and wide selection of Optimum Nutrition's products. They have so many flavors that one is bound to fit your tastes. I take Whey immediately after my workouts (with creatine mixed in). I drink their Casein protein right before bedtime and just before leaving for work because it provides a longer lasting amino acid flow than 100% whey.

Favorite flavors: chocolate malt, and rocky road

[migp713]

whats the diff besides grams of protein?

[darkphase]

ON's 100% whey/double choco. worked really good for me when i used to take protein powders gained 19lbs in a month and only .18 body fat not even 1%

[MiNeS2206]

Dymatize whey protein

[darkphase]

i think im going to start taking protein again but not sure what to take
i used to take ON's 100% whey should i stick to that or does anyone reccomend something else don't want alot of sugars in it too....

[bassbehemoth]

i think im going to start taking protein again but not sure what to take
i used to take ON's 100% whey should i stick to that or does anyone reccomend something else don't want alot of sugars in it too....

Dymatize(especially their 'elite' brand) has lots of awesome flavours, and a very good powder profile. I'd recommend their Chocolate Mint and their Chocolate Peanut Butter.

I'm going through a 5lbs tub of All The Whey Cup Cake Batter(fat free Isolate) right now. My only complain is the somewhat lackluster mixability. Very good specs though.

[crhutto]

Dorian Yates ProPeptide
Beverly Muscle Provider
Ergoharm GF Pro

These 3 are the best for Professional level bodybuilders who are serious about gaining muscle.

For rest, there's ON's Whey and similar cheap a$$ whey concentrates.

what do i need to be taking with this?

[cb1718]

id have to say Muscle Milk. have tried several different proteins and when it comes to taste and building muscle this stuff is the best out there. though it is a little pricey, i think its definately worth it (especially if its on sale) i weighed 136 as a senior on this but no one believed me just out of pure strength and bulk i put on with this stuff.

[drikx]

guys, look up iso sensation 93.. from wat i reserached, it beats ON whey in every aspect

[shoojiki]

My personal favorite is CLA 500, it helps prevent muscle loss and only lose fat in the core. For supplements, I would choose Whey Protein Powder, Decadent Chocolate from Nutrilite. They have the best Whey to gram ratio, I believe it's every 25 grams of whey = 28 grams of powder. It tastes great and it's an exclusive products only found on:

https:// qualityconnections.mychoices.biz/Retail/Products.aspx?PG=3

Well, I'm done ranting.

[caffeinecowboy]

guys, look up iso sensation 93.. from wat i reserached, it beats ON whey in every aspect

I agree whole-heartedly. I think this is one of the best formulated proteins available on the market today.

[pu12en12g]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9366/myofusionstash2.jpg

http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq328/M4LN/MyoFusionSupplementFacts_0001.jpg

[arshah]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9366/myofusionstash2.jpg

http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq328/M4LN/MyoFusionSupplementFacts_0001.jpg


wow, i'm jealous

[Jerome_Serrano]

Optimums 100% Whey Protein Isolate Nuff Said
i just bought it yesterday probably the best tasting low calories compared to muscle milk
although i have no idea but muscle gains yet but lots of users recommend it :)

[Jeph77]

yesss, agree with myofusion posts its so good. and damn thats alot of it.

[garn]

I would go with myofusion but I can't stand sucralose or aspartame in every supplement, ugh!!!

You would think educated health conscious people would be aware of this trash.

[SoulBurn18]

I just started using Monster Milk RTD from Cytosport. It tastes REALLY good. It also has creatine and BCAA's. I love it.

[garn]

I would go with myofusion but I can't stand sucralose or aspartame in every supplement, ugh!!!

You would think educated health conscious people would be aware of this trash.

Update: Aspartame, Sucralose, and Acesulfame seems to be the sweetener of choice in 99% of supplements. This is outrageous to me, especially when Stevia can easily be used! I would gladly pay $5 more!

Aspartame - Other Sweeteners

Many people want to know what other artificial sweeteners they can safely use instead of aspartame. My first recommendation is NOT to use any chemical sweeteners at all, but merely use natural sugars or learn to adjust to the natural sweetness of raw foods themselves.

I have provided a list of alternative artificial sweeteners available on the market today, even though I am not recommending their use over natural sweeteners. I do recommend them above aspartame, nonetheless, as their side effects are less harmful to human health.

The best thing to do is avoid all artificial and chemical sweetener substitutes. They have NO food value, trick the body into thinking it is eating something sweet, and they have by-products of harmful toxic side effects. And remember that aspartame was discovered as an ulcer drug, not a sweetener. Every diet drink you used to drink was a dose of medication .


Aspartame Information:

Aspartame Side Effects
Aspartame Case Histories
Artifical Sweeteners
Phenylalanine
Phenylketonuria
Aspartame Detoxifcation:

How to Detox
Read about SweetPoison
Contact Janet Hull
Information on Aspartame and Other Chemical Sweeteners:

Acesulfame K

Acesulfame Potassium (K) was approved for use by the FDA as a safe artificial sweetener in July, l988. It is a derivative of acetoacetic acid. Unfortunately, several potential problems associated with the use of acesulfame have been raised. They are based largely on animal studies since testing on humans remains limited. The findings showed the following:

Acesulfame K stimulates insulin secretion in a dose dependent fashion thereby possibly aggravating reactive hypoglycemia ("low blood sugar attacks").

Acesulfame K apparently produced lung tumors, breast tumors, rare types of tumors of other organs (such as the thymus gland), several forms of leukemia and chronic respiratory disease in several rodent studies, even when less than maximum doses were given. According to the Center for Science in the Public Interest, it was petitioned on August 29, l988 for a stay of approval by the FDA because of "significant doubt" about its safety.

Dr. H.J. Roberts, Aspartame (NutraSweet) Is It Safe?, Charles Press, page 283/84.

Aspartame (commonly misspelled as aspertame)

Aspartame, a dipeptide of aspartic acid and a methyl ester of phenylalanine, is approved for use in pharmaceutical products and is being used increasingly in chewable tablet and sugar-free formulations. Labels for both prescription and nonprescription products must include the phenylalanine content. The major consideration in the use of aspartame in children is in patients with autosomal recessive phenylketonuria. Although heterozygotes do not appear to have clinically significant increases in phenylalanine after ingestion of even large amounts (equivalent to 24 12-oz cans of diet beverages), homozygotes with strict dietary restrictions should avoid aspartame. Children without dietary restrictions could safely ingest 10 mg/kg/d. [37-40]. Dietary consumption of aspartame is typically less than 5 mg/kg/d[41]; young children, however, could ingest considerably more. For example, a 2-year-old child weighing 12 kg consumes 17 mg/kg from drinking one 12-oz can of diet soda and one serving of a sweetened product (eg, cereal, pudding, gelatin, or frozen dessert).

Headache is the most common adverse side effect attributed to aspartame but is seldom confirmed by single-dose double-blind challenge. Up to 11% of patients with chronic migraine headaches reported headaches triggered by aspartame; however, a double-blind challenge with three doses of 10 mg/kg given every 2 hours triggered no more headaches than did placebos in patients with vascular headaches believed to be exacerbated by aspartame. A small, double-blind 4-week trial showed an increase in frequency of headaches after ingestion of 1200 mg/d, indicating that a longer challenge period may be necessary.

In anecdotal reports, aspartame has been linked to various neuropsychiatric disorders, including panic attacks, mood changes, visual hallucinations, manic episodes, and isolated dizziness. A small, double-blind crossover study of patients with major depression revealed a higher incidence of reactions in these patients compared with nondepressed volunteers after administration of 30 mg/kg for 7 days; symptoms included headache, nervousness, dizziness, memory impairment, nausea, temper outbursts, and depression. None of these conditions has been rigorously proven to be caused by aspartame, but carefully conducted double-blind challenges may be indicated in patients with histories that suggest aspartame as a cause. Patients with underlying mitral valve prolapse or affective disorders may be at increased risk for neuropsychiatric effects; several studies have shown that individuals without psychiatric or seizure disorders do not demonstrate these effects.

Seizures have been reported via passive surveillance data collected by the FDA and in a few case reports. A recent analysis of FDA reports showed 41 cases of rechallenge with a temporal relationship to aspartame consumption. Most seizures occurred in patients who had an acceptable dietary intake, except for a 16-year-old who ingested up to 57 mg/kg of aspartame. Aspartame is generally considered safe for children with epilepsy. One study found increased spike-wave discharges in children with untreated absence seizures after a high dose of aspartame and suggested that children with poorly controlled absence seizures avoid aspartame.

Saccharin

Foods containing saccharin no longer carry a label stating that the "use of this product may be hazardous to your health ...contains saccharin which has been determined to cause cancer in laboratory animals." This warning was lifted in 2001 by the American FDA as saccharin no longer has been connected to cancer in human beings.

Saccharin may be present in drugs in substantial amounts. Ingestion of the recommended daily dosage of chewable aspirin or acetaminophen tablets in a school-age child would provide approximately the same amount of saccharin contained in one can of a diet soft drink. This amount, relative to the body weight of a child younger than 9 or 10 years, ingested for prolonged periods would be considered as "heavy use," as defined in a major large-scale FDA/National Cancer Institute epidemiologic study. In this study, heavy use of artificial sweeteners was associated with a significantly increased risk for the development of bladder cancer. An independent review of this study concluded that there was no association. An investigation of saccharin performed by the American Medical Association in 1985 concluded that bladder changes were species-specific, were confined to the second generation of male rats, and occurred in association with large doses (equivalent to several hundred cans of diet soft drink per day). The no-effect level was equivalent to 500 mg/kg/d.[68,69] Saccharin is not genotoxic; the presumed mechanism of toxicity is the binding of saccharin to urinary proteins (not normally found in humans), creating a nidus for the formation of silicate crystals, which are cytotoxic to bladder epithelium.

Saccharin is an O-toluene sulfonamide derivative and causes similar dermatologic reactions. Cross-sensitivity with sulfonamides has been demonstrated; therefore, children with "sulfa" allergy should also avoid saccharin. Hypersensitivity can usually be confirmed by a radioallergosorbent test for saccharin. In a series of 42 patients with adverse effects resulting from consumption of saccharin in pharmaceutical agents, pruritus and urticaria were the most common reactions, followed by eczema, photosensitivity,

and prurigo. Other reactions include wheezing, nausea, diarrhea, tongue blisters, tachycardia, fixed eruptions, headache, diuresis, and sensory neuropathy.

Ingestion of saccharin-adulterated milk formula by infants was associated with irritability, hypertonia, insomnia, opisthotonos, and strabismus, which resolved within 36 hours after ingestion. Two anecdotal reports of an accidental overdose in an adult and a child discussed reactions of generalized edema, oliguria, and persistent albuminuria. Because of the paucity of data on the toxicity of saccharin in children, the American Medical

Association has recommended limiting the intake of saccharin in young children and pregnant women.

Sucralose

Splenda, also known as sucralose, is an artificial sweetener, which is a chlorinated sucrose derivative. Facts about this artificial chemical are as follows:

Pre-Approval Research

Pre-approval research showed that sucralose caused shrunken thymus glands (up to 40% shrinkage) and enlarged liver and kidneys.

Recent Research

A possible problem with caecal enlargement and renal mineralization has been seen in post approval animal research.

Sucralose Breaks Down

Despite the manufacturer's mis-statements, sucralose does break down into small amounts of 1,6-dichlorofructose, a chemical which has not been adequtely tested in humans. More importantly, sucralose must break down in the digestive system. If it didn't break down and react at all (as the manufacturer claims), it would not chemically-react on the tongue to provide a sweet taste. The truth is that sucralose does break down to some extent in the digestive system.

Independent, Long-Term Human Research

None. Manufacturer's "100's of studies" (some of which show hazards) were clearly inadequate and do not demonstrate safety in long-term use.

Chlorinated Pesticides

The manufacturer claims that the chlorine added to sucralose is similar to the chlorine atom in the salt (NaCl) molecule. That is not the case. Sucralose may be more like ingesting tiny amounts of chlorinated pesticides, but we will never know without long-term, independent human research.

Conclusion

While it is unlikely that sucralose is as toxic as the poisoning people are experiencing from Monsanato's aspartame, it is clear from the hazards seen in pre-approval research and from its chemical structure that years or decades of use may contribute to serious chronic immunological or neurological disorders.

It is very important that people who have any interest in their health

stay aware from the highly toxic sweetener aspartame and other questionable sweeteners such as sucralose (Splenda), and acesulfame-k (Sunette, Sweet & Safe, Sweet One). Please see the extensive resources for sweeteners on the Healthier Sweetener Resource List. http://www.holisticmed.com/sweet/

http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/

Mark D. Gold mgold@holisticmed.com

Aspartame Toxicity Information Center

35 Inman St., Cambridge, MA 02139 617-497-7843

http://www.HolisticMed.com/aspartame/

[garn]

I ended up going with Optimum Nutrition's Pro Complex Natural, since it used Stevia instead of the other junk.

+1 for ON for atleast offering the Natural version of their products.

I think IsoPure also have offerings that don't have artificial sweeteners.

[proegy]

Optimum 100% Whey Protein

[BOOSTEDDUDE]

I would go with myofusion but I can't stand sucralose or aspartame in every supplement, ugh!!!

You would think educated health conscious people would be aware of this trash.

Hey Garn. I dont' see anything on the Myofusion label above mentioning it has aspartame in it? Are you sure about this? I didn't realized that Sucralose is another name for splenda! I usually avoid splenda so I might have to watch out for Sucralose as well. Thanks for the good info. BTW, I've had Myofusion a few times and enjoyed it but might think twice now.

[garn]

Hey Garn. I dont' see anything on the Myofusion label above mentioning it has aspartame in it? Are you sure about this? I didn't realized that Sucralose is another name for splenda! I usually avoid splenda so I might have to watch out for Sucralose as well. Thanks for the good info. BTW, I've had Myofusion a few times and enjoyed it but might think twice now.

Hey,

It looks like it doesn't have aspartame, but sucralose as well as acesulfame. I'm a big fan of Gaspari's products effectiveness (SizeOn works amazing for me, helped get over my plateau), but was disappointed when I found it had sucralose in it. I didn't look at the "other ingredients" label the first time I took it but could immediately tell the first time I took it by the "chemical" tasting aftertaste.

[darkphase]

when will this come out on bb.com store
http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/platinum-hydro-whey-p-271.html?zenid=27aa3409732a8fc13b72fbd57d9f91bf

[Drago-K]

Best Protein Powder For Gaining Muscle??

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If you had to pick just ONE protein powder for gaining muscle, what would be the best one for the best results?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take protein, if protein works, or why some protein powders do not work. Just list your absolute favorite protein powder and give your detailed reason.)

With out a doubt, the best protein supplement on the market today when looking strictly a gaining muscle, is Nitro-Tech Hardcore from MuscleTech. Team MuscleTech's has done it again with its high potency protein formula. It composed primarily of the higher quality, Whey Protein Isolate (97% pure), and is formulated with its patented Nano-Diffuse technology for even faster absorption by the muscles. Nitro-Tech is also fortified with a multitude of vitamins and minerals needed for the optimum growth of muscle, and contains insulin boosting agents, creating an ultra-anabolic state within the body, great for pre and post workout performance.

[garn]

With out a doubt, the best protein supplement on the market today when looking strictly a gaining muscle, is Nitro-Tech Hardcore from MuscleTech. Team MuscleTech's has done it again with its high potency protein formula. It composed primarily of the higher quality, Whey Protein Isolate (97% pure), and is formulated with its patented Nano-Diffuse technology for even faster absorption by the muscles. Nitro-Tech is also fortified with a multitude of vitamins and minerals needed for the optimum growth of muscle, and contains insulin boosting agents, creating an ultra-anabolic state within the body, great for pre and post workout performance.

So is this the infomercial script or what?

Actually, according to the ingredients label, protein concentrate is the largest contributing ingredient, followed by protein concentrate that you mention.

And what in the world is nano-diffuse technology?

What constitutes an "ultra-anabolic" state?

I will never buy a product called Nitro-Tech Hardcore, just based on the name alone, lol....

[chefwaffles]

Its a toss up between ON gold standard and ON pro complex.

[marcusd]

I'm gonna have to go with ON's gold standard 100% whey and 100% casein. Whey in the morning, whey/casein post-workout, and casein at night before bed.

[amir_khan]

I have been doing the weight lifting since 10 months . now i have stopped growing . i need some extra push in terms of supplements .

i am looking for some real gains here . i can afford only 2 suppl. at a time . i have choosen some combinations like

1 ) gaspari myofusion + universal torrent (protein + creatine + carbs)

2 ) universal torrent + superpump250

3 ) gaspari myofusion + superpump250

4 ) gaspari myofusion + green magnitude

5 ) green magnitude + superpump250

6 ) others

kindly somebody recomend from one of these combo else give his own expert opinion .
it's a request to give the reason too . i will appriciet any advice from my friends here .

[Iceberg56]

I have not yet used ON but from these reviews i might have to try it next...IMO Natures best Isopure gave me the best muscles gains so far, in a matter of 2 months my bench went from 225 to 250. but keep in mind this protein was the only supplement i was using, no pre-workout or anything.

[6302brandon]

To the Optimum 100% Whey Protein users. When and how much are you talking?

100% is real good but gncs wheybolic extreme 60 is alot better..

[kawa636r]

100% is real good but gncs wheybolic extreme 60 is alot better..

I def agree with ya, i was on the ON but the numbers on the AMPed line Wheybolic are better. some of the fastest digesting you'l find

[Gatordude]

Nitro Tech Hardcore is the best protein powder

[DragOn133]

Nitro Tech Hardcore is the best protein powder

= opinion

[Inspired916]

100% whey Optimum nutrition has always worked for me!

[amir_khan]

I have been doing the weight lifting since 10 months . now i have stopped growing . i need some extra push in terms of supplements .

i am looking for some real gains here . i can afford only 2 suppl. at a time . i have choosen some combinations like

1 ) gaspari myofusion + universal torrent (protein + creatine + carbs)

2 ) universal torrent + superpump250

3 ) gaspari myofusion + superpump250

4 ) gaspari myofusion + green magnitude

5 ) green magnitude + superpump250

6 ) others

kindly somebody recomend from one of these combo else give his own expert opinion .
it's a request to give the reason too . i will appriciet any advice from my friends here .

[TomMutaffis]

In the past I have used CytoGainer but recently switched to a new product called "Maximus" and have been making some steady gains.

Maximus has 62 grams of protein per serving and uses a protein blend (whey/egg/casein) along with high fiber, low sugar, and flax seed. No stomach issues and the taste of the vanilla is phenominal, just like a milk shake.

[elizaldethomas]

= opinion

This entire thread is for posting opinions, stupid fool.

[ericdabomb]

MGN Whey Protein Isolate.

[DragOn133]

This entire thread is for posting opinions, stupid fool.

AN OPINION IS NOT STATING SOMETHING IS "THE BEST" point blank period without stating "I THINK IT IS", stupid little boy.. Your retort and argument is weak and flawed, FAIL.

"Nitro Tech Hardcore is the best protein powder" is stating it's the best overall/out of all, not just to him.

[JT1562]

What about muscle pharm's combat powder protein ? Has anyone tried it ?

[DragOn133]

What about muscle pharm's combat powder protein ? Has anyone tried it ?

Have it in Peanut Butter (for a long time, disgustingly bland flavor) and chocolate.. The chocolate is good , great profile as well!

[Ripnlean]

Better Body Sports Whey!:D
OMG, it tastes like Godiva Chocolate!

[steve-o123]

i think phd synergy is the best it has given me really good results like.

[dtown1984]

i think phd synergy is the best it has given me really good results like.

ON 100% - cookies n cream is legit!

[johntoca]

What does everyone think about Isopure? It is just too expensive so people go with ON's?

[kahboom]

Optimum Nutrition 100% whey. Tried the Vanilla and Strawberry, they were ok. If your going for taste try the Extreme Chocolate, it is amazing. I will not need to try another flavor for a very long time.

[bassbehemoth]

Muscle Gauge Nutrition Whey Protein Isolate..I just order 10 lbs of their Ice cream sandwich flavour. You cannot get a better quality WPI for the money as far as I know..

[DragOn133]

Muscle Gauge Nutrition Whey Protein Isolate..I just order 10 lbs of their Ice cream sandwich flavour. You cannot get a better quality WPI for the money as far as I know..

How's it taste??

[bassbehemoth]

How's it taste??

Pretty good actually. Almost like a cookie and cream-like substance. WPI's are usually pretty thin in water, which is probably a good thing if going through 10lbs of any protein, or else you will be completely sick of it.

Needless to say, after discovering All the Whey WPI and MGN WPI, I'm sticking with them for the long run. I'm done with paying too much for 'quality' proteins that are full of cholesterol, fat and sodium.

[tabasco.sauce]

people, I need some help... for those who've tried most of these, someone help me decide on my next protein buy!

Universal Nutrition Milk Egg Protein
Monster Milk
ON Pro Complex
BSN Syntha-6
MuscleTech Nitro-Tech Hardcore
Gaspari Nutrition MyoFusion
BSN Syntha-6

Thanks.

[DragOn133]

Pretty good actually. Almost like a cookie and cream-like substance. WPI's are usually pretty thin in water, which is probably a good thing if going through 10lbs of any protein, or else you will be completely sick of it.

Needless to say, after discovering All the Whey WPI and MGN WPI, I'm sticking with them for the long run. I'm done with paying too much for 'quality' proteins that are full of cholesterol, fat and sodium.
Nice! I never got to try out all the whey, hear they are from same manufacturer? Good quality indeed! Thing is, I have like no use for Isolate anymore, I use blends whenever I want protein now, so versatile ! I have some tubs of whey and isolate sitting..


people, I need some help... for those who've tried most of these, someone help me decide on my next protein buy!

Universal Nutrition Milk Egg Protein
Monster Milk
ON Pro Complex
BSN Syntha-6
MuscleTech Nitro-Tech Hardcore
Gaspari Nutrition MyoFusion
BSN Syntha-6

Thanks.
What are you using this for primarily?? Pro Complex is cream of the crop and my number 1 choice! Myofusion is great too and much cheaper/tastes good too.

[tabasco.sauce]

Nice! I never got to try out all the whey, hear they are from same manufacturer? Good quality indeed! Thing is, I have like no use for Isolate anymore, I use blends whenever I want protein now, so versatile ! I have some tubs of whey and isolate sitting..


What are you using this for primarily?? Pro Complex is cream of the crop and my number 1 choice! Myofusion is great too and much cheaper/tastes good too.

We'll im just using it as a supplement from my post workout shake.. sometimes an in-between meal snack..

My last protein was pro-complex.. made some great lean gains but the taste is... weak..

Never tried MyoFusion.. can you compare it to Monster/Muscle Milk??

[UltimateSwag]

ON nitro core

would like to try pro complex next but $$$$

[tabasco.sauce]

dammit, my place ran out of Pro Complex... so I got IsoFlex Chocolate Mint... i HATe it... bahhhh!!

[Nightmonster]

Hello :-)
First, sorry for the OT, but these is really nice topic and it is about protein ... so please dont kill me...I am completly new here and I have found this forum accidentaly :-D when I was looking for some opinions about proteins :-)
I am looking for some good protein for me and I see that a lot of people like the ON 100%.
But I dont thing this is really best for me. It is impossible to read all 115 sites and make signs with every mentioned brand :-) Could you please give some ordere list of popularity? I have seen somethink on the shops sites...

Anyway I used to go to fitness before 2 years ago, and I dont think that the 100% protein is really good idea. I alwas go with 63% of proteins at maximum to get also some sacharids for energy and recovery... is there any opinions about this procentual proteins here? I dont know which brand should I take...

//edit: as I see another text...the label probaly doesnt mean 100% protein containing right? so what is better - standart edition or complex? or what has how much %% of protein? thank you

Well, I have read some opinions and now I dont know which one should I take. the ON standart, complex, or cassein? or which one of the nutri-tech? - i mean which on has about 60%-70%protein? thank you again

See ya

[Sudey]

I have been doing the weight lifting since 10 months . now i have stopped growing . i need some extra push in terms of supplements .

i am looking for some real gains here . i can afford only 2 suppl. at a time . i have choosen some combinations like

1 ) gaspari myofusion + universal torrent (protein + creatine + carbs)

2 ) universal torrent + superpump250

3 ) gaspari myofusion + superpump250

4 ) gaspari myofusion + green magnitude

5 ) green magnitude + superpump250

6 ) others

kindly somebody recomend from one of these combo else give his own expert opinion .
it's a request to give the reason too . i will appriciet any advice from my friends here .

i'd go for the real gains + free superpump deal that they've got on now in the bb.com store, then just get some creatine monohydrate which is so cheap the company basically pays you to take it.

[scoops1515]

Quickmass, Truemass, or cytogainer are the best, stay away from Muscle Juice and Mammoth

[3ddds]

Syntrax's Nectar is good its not the best but its good.

[xbh1988x]

I have been using Reflex for the best part of 3 months now and I have noticed some nice gains but I have recently heard that Gold Standard is the best you can get. Please can someone help me out as I want to become huge as I have just passed my Doorman course.

[bbarrow]

Best Protein Powder For Gaining Muscle??

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If you had to pick just ONE protein powder for gaining muscle, what would be the best one for the best results?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take protein, if protein works, or why some protein powders do not work. Just list your absolute favorite protein powder and give your detailed reason.)Cytosport Cytogainer is great protein. i used it for 3 months an gained 20 lbs of muscle. I highly recommend.

[AlphaBrass01]

Cytosport Cytogainer is great protein. i used it for 3 months an gained 20 lbs of muscle. I highly recommend.
20 lbs of muscle in 3 months...?

[bigmofoirish]

I think that syntha six is by far the best. Not onlt is the price right but they have 5 lbsers for 40 bucks online and it tastes good. The gains we have been getting on it a very good . 5 of my semper fi bothers are taking it as well and they and getting hudge. I know it's not all the syntha but it really helps. Also it makes a good snack if you got a sweet jones going on . I drink it about 3 to 4 times a day...

[samitg]

The best protein for gaining muscle is always a high quality protein blend which contains Highest quality "un-denatured" High Fraction (CFM) Whey protein Isolate and concentrates, Milk Protein Isolate (Miceller Casein) and Egg Albumin.

My favorites are Beverly Muscle Provider and Propeptide by DYA.

It's laughable that many believe ON 100% Whey comes in the same class which doesn't come even close by any stretch of imagination.
ur comparing apples to oranges my friend. ON's 100% Whey Gold is a 100% whey protein powder comprising of only whey proteins which are ideal for use after workouts and first thing in the morning. The product profile u r talking about is a multi-blend which is a medium to slow release to be used at other times of the day. As for ur fancy words "undenatured", "high fraction", CFM etc.. all of the whey proteins in ON's 100% Whey Gold are undenatured and high fraction anyway due its quadlpex blend of 4 WPI/WPC/WPP's.

[samitg]

people, I need some help... for those who've tried most of these, someone help me decide on my next protein buy!

Universal Nutrition Milk Egg Protein
Monster Milk
ON Pro Complex
BSN Syntha-6
MuscleTech Nitro-Tech Hardcore
Gaspari Nutrition MyoFusion
BSN Syntha-6

Thanks.
That's a no-brainer- PRO COMPLEX APS. Even better, try ON's new PLATINUM HYDROWHEY- definitely their most valuable muscle building protein yet

[samitg]

Quickmass, Truemass, or cytogainer are the best, stay away from Muscle Juice and Mammoth
Muscle Juice is loaded with sugar. True-Mass, Pro Complex Gainer, Stealth and Lean BOdy Mass are better choices

[omega1999]

Isopure mixed in 10oz pasteurized egg whites on waking and bedtime, and in water post workout works for me.

[Jeff5886]

Other the PWO, I perfer a complete protein supplement rather then whey. I recieved some Lipotropic Protein. Taste isnt to bad, but the ingredient profile is def inently something to brag about.

http://www.lgsciences.com/product-p/protein.htm

[ansatsuken]

gnc's newer line of proteins are actually pretty freakin good.
same maker as ON

[samitg]

It's the same maker coz it 'is' ON !!

[huntercrine]

All the whey baby

[thegame25]

Best Protein Powder For Gaining Muscle??

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If you had to pick just ONE protein powder for gaining muscle, what would be the best one for the best results?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take protein, if protein works, or why some protein powders do not work. Just list your absolute favorite protein powder and give your detailed reason.)

i like on's soy protein a lot its good

[disruption]

Best Protein Powder For Gaining Muscle??

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If you had to pick just ONE protein powder for gaining muscle, what would be the best one for the best results?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take protein, if protein works, or why some protein powders do not work. Just list your absolute favorite protein powder and give your detailed reason.)

I like designer whey. Always have. I'm not a bodybuilder just a guy who lifts to maintain bone density as I get older. (And, I wanted to bulk up some. I went from 157lbs to 177...mostly muscle.--taking designer and working out 3-night a week with a trainer.

[D_Grundman]

Does anyone have anything posi or neg to say about Syntrax's proteins? I love the taste of Nectar and then started taking the Perfect Chocolate Matrix. I love the tastes of both and seem to get good gains.

I also take ON on and off. Any opinions on Syntrax though?

[sheltona]

Bioplex All Natural WPI. I've been on it for three months with about 200 grams per day. This definitely works. Its just straight protein. The taste, well, it does leave a weird after taste. Not bitter, but just weird.

Any thoughts on this kind?

[selection]

p.s I switched to 4everfit stuff and honestly its by far the best tasting protein I have ever had :)

[chicagoamfm]

Well, people should know that there ae a lot of protiens for many difeent things. Casein, whey, soy, and even egg are in powders for convienent use. I personally like Eas protien, but if you're tight on a budget, go with Pro-Nos for that extra pump. Micellar and hydrolyzed whey protein are my favorite forms, because besides from whey, casien, soy, and egg, there are diffeent processing forms of protien as well.

[MaxLange]

Whey, any good brand.

[PurpleOnes]

I would say 100% Whey protein, but i use different protein.

[BOOSTEDDUDE]

Does anyone have anything posi or neg to say about Syntrax's proteins? I love the taste of Nectar and then started taking the Perfect Chocolate Matrix. I love the tastes of both and seem to get good gains.

I also take ON on and off. Any opinions on Syntrax though?

I tried syntrax Twisted Cherry and thought it was terrible! Whatever sweetener they used with that flavor left a terrible aftertaste for the longest time! I went back to 4everfit Tropical Mango and YUM much better! Can't wait to try the new flavor Black Raspberry that BB is carrying now!

[john4756]

My straight answer: Mix the following and make sure you use exact gram amounts:
? 266 g Prolab N-Large2 (apprx 7 scoops)
? 35 g Higher Power Casein Power (apprx 1 scoop)
? 9 g Total Body Research Colostrum
? 80 g Garden of Life Super Seed
That makes for a total of 390 g of the best MRP or Weight Gainer. Using 92 g of this provides you with approximately 28 g protein, 35 g carbs, 5.5 g fiber, and it?s also a good source of vitamins, minerals and omega-3 oils. Personally, one dose of this keeps me full for at least 4 hours, so it?s also good for when you want to lose weight, because you don?t eat so much. I should also mention that is costs $3.85 per serving if you buy from BodyBuilding.com.

Elaboration (for those who like to spend time reading):

So, for a long time I?ve been experimenting with different formulas in order to find the right combination of protein to carb ratio (P/C) and fiber while having a good taste.

Why the concern fot a P/C ratio? The right P/C is 0.77 to 0.8 or 3 parts of protein for 4 parts of carbs. When I say ?right?, I mean a P/C ratio that will have the optimum effect on your hormonal system right after eating, thus putting you in the most anabolic and illness-resistant state possible. This is well documented by a doctor called Barry Sears; his 15 years of research has helped people fight obesity, diabetes, chronic pain and inflammation and other various conditions. The Zone Diet he developed even helped me focus better for my studies, sleep better and be less stressed. Dr Sears has a series of supplements including an MRP with the same composition as the one I developed. The difference? The one I showed you here is 1.5 times cheaper while still having the same effect.

Why Prolab N-Large? Because it?s a good base protein to start with. Its P/C ratio is close enough to what I desire, so it needs little supplementation, and it?s loaded with vitamins and minerals.
Why HP Casein? Because Casein digests slower, thus keeping you fuller for a longer time. And you got your portion of whey from Prolab anyway. The other reason is because HP is much cheaper than any other; why pay more for the same product? Because it has fancier labels and is better promoted? You don?t want to pay someone else?s marketing campaign, do you?

Why Colostrum? Because it adds to the P/C ratio, and it gives better taste to the whole formula. Some may believe that it is also effective at boosting anabolism, but that doesn?t interest me; for one thing, it?s definitely not bad (I haven?t seen anyone saying colostrums is bad).

Why GL Super Seed? Because it?s the only fiber product that:
? Mixes well with the rest powders and in the liquid after.
? Has various fiber sources including Chia (Very Good)
? It has both soluble and insoluble fiber
? Contains omega-3 oils
? It?s the cheapest of its kind

[juice671]

im currently taking syntha6 but i debating if i should try on 100% whey, but all im reading is bulky this bulky that, syntha6 leaned me out cuz i use to take nitrotech and thats what bulked me up then leaned out with syntha... help please...

[chicagoamfm]

Well, people should know that there ae a lot of protiens for many difeent things. Casein, whey, soy, and even egg are in powders for convienent use. I personally like Eas protien, but if you're tight on a budget, go with Pro-Nos for that extra pump. Micellar and hydrolyzed whey protein are my favorite forms, because besides from whey, casien, soy, and egg, there are diffeent processing forms of protien as well.

Actually 100% whey protien is also pretty decent in the price range and prtoien availability. people also need to understand that bulking up is a good thing foryou will gain a little you kniow, but it's ok because if you shred too quickly your are going losemuscle mass and look flat out.

[Metalica77]

What do you guys think about

ON Pro-Complex vs. ON Hydro whey vs. AST VP2 VS. 100% gold standard?

I've been using gold standard for about 2 years, and lookin for a change

As i understand Procomplex is an Isolate like Hydro whey, except it's filled with allot more BCAA's, and other ingredients, while Hydro whey is just an isolate without all the Glutamines, BCAA's and such, and VP2 is just a high quality Isolate

Which should i go for. If i'm goin with Pro-Complex which flavor would u guys recommend?

[dvanosten]

on gold standard is mine and all of my friends favorite protein. to build muscle, you obviously need a protein and it is the best tasting, most effective, best price for a protein on the market. i use it in between meals, pre, and post workout. always a scoop and a half, never use over 30 grams in a hour of the powder. you'll jus fart out anything over the 30 grams and in relation, wastes $$$.

[xfly01]

I just switched to the new Nitro-Tech Hardcore Pro Series formula taste is ok, not great but it seems to be working very well. Its expensive though.

[gatorglaze24]

It's the same maker coz it 'is' ON !!

Sad thing is they taste like crap compared to on, and cost more.....

[mongochuy]

i have been using costcos, Wellements Pro rated protein for about 6 months now. when i was taking about 5 scoops a day i noticed some good gains i even ended up with stretch marks around my shoulders( worked HARD during these times)

[estecoca]

Im def a noob, but I am happy with my choices in protein so far. ON Gold Standard and Casein are woking great for me. I have made significant gains in just about everything and I love the taste and mix-ability. I've stuck to the chocolate flavors and they are all awesome - just like drinking choc milk as a kid. I dont plan on switching anytime soon as I see no reason to do so....but I would like to hear from someone who has a reason to switch to ON's Hydro whey.

[smerkley]

nutrabolics,isobolic ciniamon oatmeal is an awsome protein powder and it TASTES GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thebeast110]

ur comparing apples to oranges my friend. ON's 100% Whey Gold is a 100% whey protein powder comprising of only whey proteins which are ideal for use after workouts and first thing in the morning. The product profile u r talking about is a multi-blend which is a medium to slow release to be used at other times of the day. As for ur fancy words "undenatured", "high fraction", CFM etc.. all of the whey proteins in ON's 100% Whey Gold are undenatured and high fraction anyway due its quadlpex blend of 4 WPI/WPC/WPP's.https://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif

This. Can't go wrong with ON's

[KG_UOIT]

So everyone says i got the perfect height and starting weight to start working out, last 3 months i've just been curling small dumbells (20-25lbs) so i'm gonna grab a tub of ON 100% Gold standard, hopefully Chocolate mint from the reviews i've been hearing and HIT THE GYM HARD :D
If there are any other helpful tips or advice, it would be much appreciated!

[nondualism]

I haven't read the whole thread, but I went back about five pages and...

Am I the only one here who uses 'tru3 Proti3n' (why was that edited out?) to get their protein? The flavor choices are enormous, you can choose anywhere from 1-1 gazillion lbs at a time, you can add protease (a must for me if I want to avoid gastro problems).

I use their 'Team Skip' and I add about 5 grams L-leucine to it. Team skip is equal 3rds Whey, Egg, and Micellar Casein.

My favorite flavors are Double Dutch Chocolate and Cookie Dough.

[imtoofastforyou2]

it sounded too pre composed to not be a real person with an actual opinion...I'm sick of company reps doing free advertising at the expense of the populous...

judgement day is real and industry quaiprostitutes are liars

I doubt if this guy even lifts, far to busy pitching products as opposed to simply saying what he uses and why....are the directions really that hard to follow?

[rob1994]

Optimum 100% Whey Protein

Tastes great and you get awesome gains from it. One of the best protein powders in the game.

i agree ^^ +1 love o.n's protein :)

[termi]

awesome admin.. erm i would say nitro-tech hardcore but taste wise is 6/10 and aint good for any light pocket out there lol.

[luckyluke3751]

Yah I'm with the Optimum 100% Whey Protein, the tropical punch taste great, spread out at about 4 meals a day seems to keep a good feed for me. Throw in some no-xplode pre workout but looking at changing it when I'm empty to some White Flood, but not thinking about changing the Optimum Whey Protein, good product

[thestugots01]

Should have made a poll of the top 5 and replace this longgg sticky.

[hulkhoganjr.]

nitro tech is sooo gross in my opinion first off nitro-tech has tons of gains in it...TONS i mean!!plus its not a bad way to go for a pre-workout supplement...i personally love the taste myself and like the feel!!

[67bird]

a max muscle store just opened in my town, do they have anything good for building muscle? Or should i try ons or myozene?

[RockingGoat]

well done

[jesseosostacked]

a max muscle store just opened in my town, do they have anything good for building muscle? Or should i try ons or myozene?

Max muscle has great stuff they have a bunch of suplements that are a derivative of the pro hormone tren. I saw huge gains while taking tren extreme.

[undr_cnstrctn]

Pro 5 for the win!

[-=Zeus=-!]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mgn/pureisolate.html

Ordered that like jan 6th and its still on backorder lol

[AlphaBrass01]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mgn/pureisolate.html

Ordered that like jan 6th and its still on backorder lol
I'm glad I don't feel bad about buying in bulk - I just received my 15 lbs order of cake batter.

[That70sShowDude]

Well, according to bodybuilding.com, it's N.O. Xplode ...

[LiftDeezWeights]

On 100% Whey FTW

[TheHealthyDJ]

optimum nutrition chocolate whey. tastes good, cheap, does the job!

[t.montalbano32]

Isoflex. Don't listen to these other morons.

[btierney98]

Muscle Gauge Isolate. 10 lbs. for $59.99. And it tastes great.

[LITTLE_JOE77]

Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey post workout.

Syntha-6 as a meal replacement.

[skdmup]

how many scoops and much much milk or wotever do you take when using the Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey post workout. just want to check im taking the right amount cheers

[don.b]

Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey post workout.

Syntha-6 as a meal replacement.

How are you going to use syntha as a meal replacement when 1 scoop is only 20g of protein and 200 calories and basically nothing else.

Look at the label and compare it to True Mass from the same company. That's more of a meal replacement then syntha is.

[BIGbenJAMMIN]

I used that junk a while back and in terms of gains i made in comparison to ON's nitro core the body fortress didn't even make a dent. It's a sad fact but usually the best products are the most expensive. Am I right!