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J2jud
12-28-2005, 10:10 AM
Hi i just bought a bottle of Formadrol Extreme. I was wondering if this would be a good idea for me to use??? I have had no experience with test boosters before, and i am a little apprehensive about using this product. I have read that it's a PCT but it is a test booster and estrogen blocker. I want to lower my estrogen levels for my Competitions. I throw Shot-put and various other events. I am entering my first Bodybuilding comp in June. Would cutting the product usage to 2 a day help me???? Would it harm me??? Any help would be great. Thank you. I weigh about 236 right now and im 6'2''

BillyB
12-28-2005, 11:30 AM
Do not add any outside factors into a teen’s endocrine system. Your hormones are still evolving at 19 years. Let them mature naturally until at least 21 years of age.

Wait till you’re in your mid 20's and wonder why you have the test levels of a 35 year old. A teen’s endocrine system is not that forgiving. You do realize that low test levels is your mid 20’s will make it almost impossible to achieve your maximum potential?

Focus on your diet and training.

236, 6'2 - What bf %. Assuming you are athletic, those are very nice numbers at 19. I think you are doing fine as it is.

J2jud
12-28-2005, 12:05 PM
I am going to get a body fat % checked this week. I have been training for about 5 years, and really serious for the last 3 years or so. I really think that my test levels could be higher. Since the Formadrol is not a Pro hormone, how would it mess with my endocrine system?? i have read in other forums that its the Pro hormones that mess that up.

BillyB
12-28-2005, 12:23 PM
I am going to get a body fat % checked this week. I have been training for about 5 years, and really serious for the last 3 years or so. I really think that my test levels could be higher. Since the Formadrol is not a Pro hormone, how would it mess with my endocrine system?? i have read in other forums that its the Pro hormones that mess that up.

You are blocking estrogen from being produced. It will cause a hormone shift in your body. The short term benefits are not worth the possible risks in my opinion.

J2jud
12-28-2005, 12:51 PM
Thank you for your messages. I will be considering whether to take them or not. I will try to look into this a little further for safety sake. I would still like to know if anyone has more info on this. Or if anyone has done this Formadrol only type of thing. I am considering any info at all.

J2jud
12-29-2005, 01:17 PM
I dont think that the Formadrol taken at a small dosage like 1-2 pills would kill the estrogen totally. Because it's supposed to be used as a PCT and bring up natural test and keep estrogen at a min. Not kill it off. By taking 1-2 pills a day should only make a small increase. Am i right about this????

sasha
12-29-2005, 01:39 PM
You are blocking estrogen from being produced. It will cause a hormone shift in your body. The short term benefits are not worth the possible risks in my opinion.

You're nineteen! When I look at your stats, you already have a great body.
Really, just focus on training and diet. I had some positive results in bb
comps as a teen, and I was a lot smaller than you are.
When you will have reached your limits in training, you may think about
something else (if you really want!), but you still have so much time left.

Good luck.

J2jud
12-29-2005, 01:50 PM
Thanks for the comment. I just need to do some cardio to get ride of the Fat hiding my lower abs. Not a great deal though. I was just hoping that raising my test levels would help me get in competition shape.

sasha
12-29-2005, 02:24 PM
Try to get into competitive shape by cutting and dieting. If your timing
is alright, you can see your muscles getting more defined day after day.
And then enjoy your presentation on stage. The place isn't the most
important thing, it's important that you feel alright, then your success
will surely come!:)

J2jud
01-03-2006, 07:31 AM
I have my formadrol and need to clear smething up. I really need to know the truth about using 2 pills a day and if my endocrine system will be fudged up!?!? Or taking one pill a day for one week and 2 for the next. Will this be safe or not?? PLEASE HELP.

Sockomalo
01-03-2006, 07:52 AM
youre young, you dont need it, and to be honest you probably wont notice anything from it.

jewishnazi
01-03-2006, 04:09 PM
He most certainly will notice something. At his age, while its true his test levels are at thir peak, they are still only a little higher than omeone of 25 or 30. The decline as you age isnt too great.

If you are going to use the formadrol, take 1 for 4 weeks. If you arent happy wth that, next time around take 2 pills.

J2jud
01-03-2006, 11:02 PM
Hey jewishnazi, or anyone with knowledge, will this F me up or not?? I just want to be safe without side effects later down the road or very soon. I took one pill today about 45min to an hour before i worked out. I really didnt notice anything except that i was feeling good throughout the day, like i was really happy. So have i done something bad or should i keep the 1 pill a day going?????

TheSternMystic
01-03-2006, 11:12 PM
It probably will F you up. I mean, like other posters have said, you're 19, your hormones are screwed as it is.

Lets put it this way;

Do you want to have male pattern baldness when you're 35? Do you want Prostate cancer? Do you want small testicles? Do you want problems sustaining an erection?

If you answer 'No' to 1 or more of the above, don't touch anything hormonal until you're 25.

J2jud
01-03-2006, 11:41 PM
OK i guess i have made a decision to not take it anymore because im affraid of what will happen to my body. I wish i could get a doctor to tell me a straight answer, but everyone has convinced me to not take it. I only took one pill and had a positive effect: Making me feel good, but i dont know if was just me. So i shall take the advice all of you have given me. I hope that just the one pill didnt hurt me at all????

But for the most part i have put something up with information about other late teens thinking about using this product or others like it. They will have the information that i didnt have to start with, until now. I came in with a head full of questions and for the most part they were answered. I may have not liked the answers that i got at first, so i asked WHY??? and then i got another answer who said something else, So i asked another question. Now i have the knowledge to not do something that will make a short term gain, but a long term headache. Thank you for your reply's and help. Just know you helped other late teens make a right choice.

skurvey~
01-04-2006, 10:48 AM
so this stuff you're talking about is a test booster? i've been taking a test booster, it's called T3 Nitro. it came with a stack i bought. came with creatine, T3 (test booster), and a protein synthesis stimulator called AMINOVOL. i'm 18 years old, and i have been on this stack for over a week now. with the test booster, the stack directions say to take on workout days, it's 6 pills before bedtime. like i said, i have been on this stack for over a week, no negative side affects.

Cyberia
01-04-2006, 11:42 AM
OK i guess i have made a decision to not take it anymore because im affraid of what will happen to my body. I wish i could get a doctor to tell me a straight answer, but everyone has convinced me to not take it. I only took one pill and had a positive effect: Making me feel good, but i dont know if was just me. So i shall take the advice all of you have given me. I hope that just the one pill didnt hurt me at all????

But for the most part i have put something up with information about other late teens thinking about using this product or others like it. They will have the information that i didnt have to start with, until now. I came in with a head full of questions and for the most part they were answered. I may have not liked the answers that i got at first, so i asked WHY??? and then i got another answer who said something else, So i asked another question. Now i have the knowledge to not do something that will make a short term gain, but a long term headache. Thank you for your reply's and help. Just know you helped other late teens make a right choice.


Yea man, same wif me, I took it two pills for the first time and i was really strong but then again.. all you guys on the board has convince me not to take it.. and i am going to listen because i dont want those negative side effects that is going to happen to me, and mess up my hormones. I appreciate everyone for the useful information. Thx! =)

xJonathanx
01-04-2006, 11:46 AM
Hi i just bought a bottle of Formadrol Extreme. I was wondering if this would be a good idea for me to use???

why the HELL would you buy something if you didn't know if you would use it? this has to be the DUMBEST thing ever. thats like buying a car with a stick shift but not knowing how to operate the clutch.

J2jud
01-04-2006, 02:00 PM
Ok, ASS. Well thats why i put the post up. that was a pretty dumb thing to say on your part. The thread asks the question "Formadrol for a 19 year old??". Not give me a shi* head answer. I think you need to learn that some people want to know if something is right for them. Sorry if i wanted to have an educated answer by the people of this web site. And yes i did know what it was U RETARD!!! If you would read a little more maybe you might find something out. Why do the moderators allow some ass wipe with a case of steroid bitching on this forum? Dude you need to look at this web site a bit, the place is crawling with questions. Im a little pissed that you could make that remark and not have read the whole thread. DAMN. So dont be pissed off at people who are smart and want a little more information about something rather than take it and be a dumbass like you who made this remark. You've probably hae all ready taken some steroid that f'd you up, and now you rage on anyone. GET A GRIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jewishnazi
01-04-2006, 07:20 PM
Do you want to have male pattern baldness when you're 35? Do you want Prostate cancer? Do you want small testicles? Do you want problems sustaining an erection?

If you answer 'No' to 1 or more of the above, don't touch anything hormonal until you're 25.

Male pattern Baldness: Steroids only accelerate a condition that you already have. It there is no history of balding in any of your mother's brothers, you will be fine.

Prostate cancer: Ther eis some evidence to suggest that it is actually estrogen-related. Seeing as he would be decreasing hte amount of estrogen in his body, this seems unlikely. If it is androgen-induced, This might happen. Then again, it happens naturally throughout life.

Testicular atrophy: This occurs because the testicles areno longer required to produce testosterone due to exogenous administration. He is actualy using a chemical which will INCREASE his testes production, not decrease it. If anything, he will gain some size

Erection: Cant comment on this one. He may be unefeted or may not. In any case, he will most likely be getting scripts for viagra anyway hen he is older

J2jud
01-04-2006, 08:07 PM
jewishnazi i can say i really enjoy your responses. You really have a good deal of knowledge about nutrition, and how the body reacts with the supps. I can say that i respect, and will acknowledge anything you have to say. I may reconsider my taking the supp at low dosages. I am going to my doctor to get some blood work done. I will also try to get an appointment with a nutritionist to see what supps are right for me. Thank you. If you have any more information for me please, dont hold back.

xJonathanx
01-05-2006, 03:22 AM
Ok, ASS. Well thats why i put the post up. that was a pretty dumb thing to say on your part. The thread asks the question "Formadrol for a 19 year old??". Not give me a shi* head answer. I think you need to learn that some people want to know if something is right for them. Sorry if i wanted to have an educated answer by the people of this web site. And yes i did know what it was U RETARD!!! If you would read a little more maybe you might find something out. Why do the moderators allow some ass wipe with a case of steroid bitching on this forum? Dude you need to look at this web site a bit, the place is crawling with questions. Im a little pissed that you could make that remark and not have read the whole thread. DAMN. So dont be pissed off at people who are smart and want a little more information about something rather than take it and be a dumbass like you who made this remark. You've probably hae all ready taken some steroid that f'd you up, and now you rage on anyone. GET A GRIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't know I offended you so much from my post, man. My apologies to you. In regards to your accusations that I am juicing, I have never used any prohormones or gear in my life, and pride myself on being natural.

My question was simply, "Why would he spend $40 on a supplement, when he did not know if it would hurt or help him?" I could see if you posted this thread BEFORE you bought your Formadrol. But I guess it's better safe than sorry.

I would not take Formadrol as a standalone at 19. I would not even take Tribulus at 19. Forma's designed for PCT anyways. All you need is hard work, protein powder, maybe some creatine, and a multivitamin. AND FOOD!!! There are other, more efficient and overall safer methods of building muscle other than boosting your already-high test levels. Using that supplement at your age will just cause problems. I recommend selling it back to where you bought it and getting some MRP's or Whey.

And again, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
-J

Shutup
01-05-2006, 08:31 AM
I think it's only natural for younger people to doubt known side effects and future effects of steroids and steroid like substances. They're curious people and want to be at their best. Young people don't know what it is to be older until they get there. J2jud decideding not to take it means he's on the right track.

_Bladen_
01-05-2006, 08:36 AM
I am 18 I use PH and AAS to stay ontop of competition on an international level. People at our age have NO business messing with AAS or Pro-Hormones unless under the most extreme circumstances. I have caused my body PERMANENT damage in order to stay on top. Do NOT **** with this stuff at your age. Simply put your body cannot handle it. No ands ifs ors or buts. DO NOT PLAY WITH YOU HORMONE LEVELS.

J2jud
01-05-2006, 02:31 PM
Why do you keep taking Pro hormones if you know they will F you up??? I know you said to keep on top of the competition, but seriously what if something went terribly wrong with your body and just decided to crash? I know enough not to use the hard core pro-hormone crap, But why do you want to keep hurting yourself and you know your doing this to yourself?? What if those guys are right that you wont be able to get it up---> or lift weights and gain anything without using Pro-hormones. I think it would be best for you to stop abusing your body. I thik you should really consider it.

jewishnazi
01-05-2006, 05:10 PM
Bladen: Wht type of ycles have you being doing? Are you sure that it is fair to use your example as a standard for others?

I have read quite a bit into AI's and studies done with them. One study used letrozole for 18 months in girls at 10mg eachday with no side-effects. Another study gave 2.5mg letrozole to males or 12 montsh without any side-effects.

The purpose of the study on the girls was to delay puberty (they had a condition that made them go through puberty sooner and quicker than normal). The study on the boys was to increase height by suppressing estrogen levels, and doing so would have also increase testosterone to supraphysiological levels just like Formadrol would

J2jud
01-05-2006, 09:29 PM
At this point i cant really make a decision. Do you have any more info on this study?? I have been contemplating getting my doctor to read into this because i trust him. could i get a link to this study perhaps. You seem really educated on this subject. Please tell me any info you have.

I am tired of getting other peoples indirect answers. Some are even about PRO hormones not Inhibitors or Estrogen blockers. Just need some real facts that i can trust.

iced_maggot
01-05-2006, 10:15 PM
dude for us teens, this stuffs absolute b/s. at reccomended safe dosages, i seriously doubt you will notice any difference at all, your testerone levels at this age are already off the chart (i think 18 or 19 is they they peak) and test supplements wont make much of a difference, even if it does, then i doubt it will be a very noticable one. however wat it will do is fk up your endocrine system. this is because unlike a lot of other anti-estrogens, the ingredients in formadrol directly block or reduce botht the conversion of test to estrogen and also acts as a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) this means that it actually actively blocks estrogen binding onto tissue receptors. just for comparasion post cycle nolva and clomid do the same thing. at this age screwing with any part of the endocrine system, estrogen being a big part of that system, is just gonna lead to trouble later on down the road. in my opinion, right now a can of tuna would propb be more anabolic

Travis71902
01-05-2006, 11:39 PM
dude for us teens, this stuffs absolute b/s. at reccomended safe dosages, i seriously doubt you will notice any difference at all, your testerone levels at this age are already off the chart (i think 18 or 19 is they they peak) and test supplements wont make much of a difference, even if it does, then i doubt it will be a very noticable one. however wat it will do is fk up your endocrine system. this is because unlike a lot of other anti-estrogens, the ingredients in formadrol directly block or reduce botht the conversion of test to estrogen and also acts as a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) this means that it actually actively blocks estrogen binding onto tissue receptors. just for comparasion post cycle nolva and clomid do the same thing. at this age screwing with any part of the endocrine system, estrogen being a big part of that system, is just gonna lead to trouble later on down the road. in my opinion, right now a can of tuna would propb be more anabolic


Best post yet^

jewishnazi
01-06-2006, 06:37 PM
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/short/jc.2005-1392v1 Sorry its so short. I couldnt find the original one that i read.

At the age of 19, his testosterone levels are not "off the chart". The average adult might have a level of 550ng/dl while a teen would be in the 650 - 750 range. Doctors consider anything between 250 and 1,000 'normal'.

If he is at 650, that isnt a huge difference that is going to make him pack on the muscle with greater ease. Hell, taking ZMA can potentially rais e testosterone levels by 30%, that would take a person of 500 to 650, the low-ed range of a teen. Not to mention using a tribulus products, there is another 200 - 300 points.

Actually, i raise a good point. If you decide not to use the formadrol, pick up some ZMA, it will have you at the high end of normal levels