Whats the better deal?

[BIGJSD]

I have been shopping locally for a new Smith Cage and here are two deals I have come up with. A WSGS348 Series 7 Smith Cage by Body-Solid with High/Low Pulley w/200 lb. stack, Gunracks, FID Bench (commercial model), Linear Bearing, Leg Developer, Preacher for 1999.00 plus tax. OR Tuff-Stuff TSC 557WS with High/Low Pulley w/200 lb. stack, Half Cage Conversion (Free Weight Catches), Linear Bearing, FID Bench, Leg Developer, Preacher for 2200.00 plus tax. Which seems to be the better deal? I like certain aspects of each package. I like the fact that the Body-Solid has Gunracks so theres no adjusting for freeweights. I also like the Body-Solid FID bench better. Although I really like the Tuff-Stuff build quality (MADE IN USA) I don't care for the bench (pop-pin). Tuff-Stuff also has the much better Hi-Low pulley by FAR. Salesguy said he would knock 275 off price if I go without Tuff FID bench and attachments for bench. Which sounds best too you guys? The fact that Body-Solid is foreign made scares me a little. Anyone have any experience with either of these companies/products? Are both these prices fair or am I getting rammed?

[ctgblue]

If the Tuff Stuff is close to the same price, grab it.
I almost bought one, but got a deal on a York Barbell Model light commercial model.
I also prefer the heavy, crossbar adjust bench, which is what I have.
However, unless you are a really big guy and are pushing really big weight, I wouldn't worry about the pop pin style, from waht I recall the bench was VERY well made.
The TuffStuff Steel was thicker than the BS steel that I compared.
I don't think you can go wrong with either, but I'd opt for the Tuff stuff at the same price as the BS, if $200-300difference, the NEW BS model is very nice.
I have not had my hands on the 1/2 cage BS but the new 2002 cage smith is MUCH improved over the 2001 and previous models
Either way, I'm fukking jealous, they are both awesome machines, the only one I like better is the Hoist, but not worth the extra money.
The TuffStuff is a deal at 2200 for all that BTW, most places had it at $2700.
Work him down to under $2,000 then grab it and run...

[mityike]

Have you looked at the Parabody Smith System? Im still aiming to pick this one up.

[BIGJSD]

Yes that is a decent looking cage as well. I haven't got a chance to see it in person but from what I can see online it looks just about the same as the Body Solid, which by the way the Body-Solid dealer called me today and dropped their offer to 1799.oo I'm still leaning towards Tuff-Stuff but I just wish it had the Gunracks on the front rather than indivdual adjustable weight catches. The real reason I haven't jumped on the Body-Solid offer yet is because they do not have one on display to try out. They have the 5-in-1 modular on display but not the Series 7. Oh well it will be a week or two before making purchase so I'll keep wheelin and dealin and make my final decision based on the best value I can get.

[ctgblue]

by that time they'll both be down to the 1100 I paid for the York, then I'll be freakin pissed and come steal yours :p

[Malgavito]

Where could i go to see or read about these machines?
URL?

[DIEHARD]

don't buy body solid smith system . i made a huge mistake buying them before and ended up sold it for a quater of what i paid for . they sucked big time . if you wanna buy a smith system , make sure you get liner bearing , it is more expensive but worth it . noW i have got a smith + freeweight system from parabody for a yr . they are awsome .

[ctgblue]

Originally posted by DIEHARD don't buy body solid smith system . i made a huge mistake buying them before and ended up sold it for a quater of what i paid for . they sucked big time . if you wanna buy a smith system , make sure you get liner bearing , it is more expensive but worth it . noW i have got a smith + freeweight system from parabody for a yr . they are awsome . DH, the NEW BS smith IS a linear bearing and is twice the machine you're thinking of.
I swear the same people are making the BS, the Para, and the Tuff Stuff 1/2 cage models, they are all so damn close to each other. I've been able to try all three