Best Overall Multi-Vitamin Product?

[naturalguy]

When I used to weight train I was taking animal pak for a multi. I really liked the way it treated me. Now I am not lifting at all and only training muay thai but I need to start taking a multi again. My question is, is animak pak overkill if I am not lifting weights? Is there a multi better suited for what I am doing?

Training for muay thai is very intense, your animal pak will serve you well.

[mastro10917]

does animal pak have any hormones?

[theshaman]

does animal pak have any hormones?

no

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Taking Animal Pak right now as I already got them, when I am complete with this I am gonna start on Orange Triad. From everything I have read them and their company really impress me.

sounds great, you should love it, it really cuts cost and clutter :)

[Animal Rep]

does animal pak have any hormones?

Not at all bro. Animal Pak is a foundational nutritional pack.

[mastro10917]

thanks man

[fuzzy123]

Training for muay thai is very intense, your animal pak will serve you well.

Thanks, thats what I wanted to hear!

[SoulBurn18]

Fuzzy,

Where do you train Muay Thai?

[fuzzy123]

Fuzzy,

Where do you train Muay Thai?

Salt Lake City, UT

[SoulBurn18]

Salt Lake City, UT

Who do you train with?

[fuzzy123]

Who do you train with?

I train at the Muay Thai Institute of Kunponli w/ Sakasem. I might be moving back to california though so I need to find a new gym soon.

[SoulBurn18]

I train at the Muay Thai Institute of Kunponli w/ Sakasem. I might be moving back to california though so I need to find a new gym soon.

Gotcha. I trained with a Fighter in Illinois who was supposed to have opened a school in Utah, was wondering if you trained there. :)

[fuzzy123]

Gotcha. I trained with a Fighter in Illinois who was supposed to have opened a school in Utah, was wondering if you trained there. :)

What is the schools name?

[rentnorthside]

Long time lurker.. also used to post here long time back...

There are a few (very few) good posts on this thread, but the vast majority of replies are just ridiculous. Just reading some of those replies, it would seem that you guys believe you either have horrible diets or that you guys are horribly misinformed about supplements or you guys are very gullible to marketing hype. Ever heard about placebo effect? lol

Anyway... there is no such thing as "the best multivitamin" since everyone's body chemistry and diet is different.... But this is what I currently take and I'm pleased with the peace of mind it gives me.

1. Swanson Century Formula
2. Swanson Mixed Vit E Tocopherols
3. Swanson Vitamin C (I take up to 3g depending on my workouts)
4. Swanson B-100 Super B Complex
5. Twinlabs Calcium + Mag + Vit D (I take 2 tabs per workout day, so I get 1g Calc,500mg Magnesium, and 400IU Vit. D)

Total yearly cost: $95 (360 doses, includes double-dose of #5, and triple-dose of #3 with shipping+tax included)

I really like the swanson brand because it's SO DAMN CHEAP, it's USP certified and has basically the same ingredients as vitamins costing upto 10x more. :)

Compare that with the yearly cost of taking Animal Pak, Orange Triad, GNC, Adam, etc... I guess if you want the convenience of not opening multiple bottles of vitamins and are willing to pay a buttload for that, then.. more power to ya! But, jsyk, there is gonna be ZERO difference between these "cheap", certified vitamins and the expensive stuff. Just MAKE SURE the manufacturer participates in regular certification of the products...otherwise, you might not get what's on the label.


(Oh yeah, I used to take the Twinlab Daily Ones and Swanson Active Ones Multivits, but couldn't justify the added cost since the main difference was an additional 5000IU of VitA, slightly higher doses of selenium, chromium and molybdenum of which i got plenty from my diet, and additional 100 and 300 mcg of B7 and B12, resp. - which was urinated out anyway cause a normal human body (mine) can't utilize such a high dose.)

Oh yeah, and I also eat roughly 15-20 servings of seeds, nuts, veges and berries everyday....so i'm pretty sure these vitamins are overkill anyway. :)

HTH

[SoulBurn18]

What is the schools name?

I'm not sure the name of the school, or if he even did it. It was supposed to be run by UFC Fighter Jeremy Horn.

[Ultra_Magnus]

Centrum is good for an everyday individual, but if you train hardcore then you need a hardcore multi. Animal Pak is the best for your money. You can get 44 days worth for a little over $20. The only downside is that each pak is 11 pills, but if you can handle 11 pills a day just for your multi, then its the best.
Note: one of the pills (the reddish one) is acctually an energy enhancer so it isn't neccessary to take. Its up to the indiviual

Hmm, dont you mean 22 days (44paks/2paks a day) for just over $20? thats a big difference.

[naturalguy]

Hmm, dont you mean 22 days (44paks/2paks a day) for just over $20? thats a big difference.

Most people should only need one pak per day.

[Doughboy]

You cant go wrong with Solgar VM 75

[LazerJay]

I started using regular Mega Men's vitamins and then I switched to Opti-Men vitamins to change things up. However, I didn't really like this product so I am going to switch to Mega Men's Sport shortly to see how that works.

[Ultra_Magnus]

Most people should only need one pak per day.

I guess if you want underdosed b-vitamins....

[terracotta]

I guess if you want underdosed b-vitamins....

it's a heck of a lot cheaper to add in a b-complex than to take 2 paks a day.

[Ultra_Magnus]

it's a heck of a lot cheaper to add in a b-complex than to take 2 paks a day.

Seems like your better of with going with a cheaper vitamin with more b-vits....like Vitamonster or orange triad then....

[rugs]

almost all of them work and ARE about the same. the expensive ones are 95% placebo affect, 5% beneficial

[D@K]

Anybody critique this vitamin plz : Dr. Weil Daily Multivitamin

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Vitamin A (as beta carotene) 10000 IU 200%
Vitamin C (as Ester-C? calcium ascorbate) 250 mg 417%
Vitamin D (as cholecalciferol) 400 IU 100%
Vitamin E (as d-alpha tocopherol and mixed tocopherols) 30 IU 100%
Thiamin (as thiamin HCl) 50 mg 3333%
Riboflavin 50 mg 2941%
Niacin (as niacinamide) 50 mg 250%
Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCl) 50 mg 2500%
Folic Acid (folate) 400 mcg 100%
Vitamin B12 (as cobalamin) 50 mcg 833%
Biotin (as d-biotin) 100 mcg 33%
Pantothenic Acid (As d-calcium panthothenic acid) 50 mg 500%
Calcium (as calcium citrate and Ester-C? calcium ascorbate) 60 mg 6%
Iodine (from sea kelp) 150 mcg 100%
Magnesium (as magnesium citrate) 30 mg 8%
Zinc (as Biokey? zinc chelate) 15 mg 100%
Copper (as Biokey? copper chelate) 1.5 mg 75%
Manganese (as Biokey? manganese chelate) 1 mg 50%
Chromium (as Biokey? chromium chelate) 200 mcg 167%
Molybdenum (as Biokey? molybdenum chelate) 75 mcg 100%
Chloride (as potassium chloride) 1 mg <1%
Potassium (as potassium chloride) 1 mg <1%
Choline (as choline bitartrate) 50 mg *
Inositol 50 mg *
PABA 50 mg *
Citrus Bioflavonoids (as complex) 40 mg *
Rutin 40 mg *
Sulphur (as MSM) 5 mg *
Silicon (as silicon dioxide) 2 mg *
Vanadium (as Boikey? vanadium chelate) 10 mcg *


Its one a day, plus i think the amount per serving is quite sufficient ? 50mgs for Bs.. what do u think?

[Ultra_Magnus]

Anybody critique this vitamin plz : Dr. Weil Daily Multivitamin

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Vitamin A (as beta carotene) 10000 IU 200%
Vitamin C (as Ester-C? calcium ascorbate) 250 mg 417%
Vitamin D (as cholecalciferol) 400 IU 100%
Vitamin E (as d-alpha tocopherol and mixed tocopherols) 30 IU 100%
Thiamin (as thiamin HCl) 50 mg 3333%
Riboflavin 50 mg 2941%
Niacin (as niacinamide) 50 mg 250%
Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCl) 50 mg 2500%
Folic Acid (folate) 400 mcg 100%
Vitamin B12 (as cobalamin) 50 mcg 833%
Biotin (as d-biotin) 100 mcg 33%
Pantothenic Acid (As d-calcium panthothenic acid) 50 mg 500%
Calcium (as calcium citrate and Ester-C? calcium ascorbate) 60 mg 6%
Iodine (from sea kelp) 150 mcg 100%
Magnesium (as magnesium citrate) 30 mg 8%
Zinc (as Biokey? zinc chelate) 15 mg 100%
Copper (as Biokey? copper chelate) 1.5 mg 75%
Manganese (as Biokey? manganese chelate) 1 mg 50%
Chromium (as Biokey? chromium chelate) 200 mcg 167%
Molybdenum (as Biokey? molybdenum chelate) 75 mcg 100%
Chloride (as potassium chloride) 1 mg <1%
Potassium (as potassium chloride) 1 mg <1%
Choline (as choline bitartrate) 50 mg *
Inositol 50 mg *
PABA 50 mg *
Citrus Bioflavonoids (as complex) 40 mg *
Rutin 40 mg *
Sulphur (as MSM) 5 mg *
Silicon (as silicon dioxide) 2 mg *
Vanadium (as Boikey? vanadium chelate) 10 mcg *


Its one a day, plus i think the amount per serving is quite sufficient ? 50mgs for Bs.. what do u think?

Little lower then normal on the b12 and vitman E, but if the price is right, seems fine.

(hmmm $27 for 180 servings. Quick google..Not bad).

[D@K]

Little lower then normal on the b12 and vitman E, but if the price is right, seems fine.

(hmmm $27 for 180 servings. Quick google..Not bad).
Ya exactly wat i had in mind, low on b12 and vit E. anw it says 1 pill a day.. but with what meal should i be takin it to obtain the optimal effect? breakfast? dinner ?

[naturalguy]

I guess if you want underdosed b-vitamins....


Seems like your better of with going with a cheaper vitamin with more b-vits....like Vitamonster or orange triad then....

1 Animal Pak has 38 mgs. of the B's

Orange Triad has 30 mgs. of the B's


So even at half a serving Animal Pak has more b vitamins

[Vibes63]

I think that the best multivitamin is PS Essentials found at http://www.doc1vitamins.com

PS Essentials are pharmaceutical grade supplements that are manufactured at FDA-approved facilities. The supplement contains the highest quality ingredients without harmful fillers or additives. This product was developed by a scientific advisory board of physicians. 90 day guarantee can't beat that. Just my two cents!

[Ultra_Magnus]

1 Animal Pak has 38 mgs. of the B's

Orange Triad has 30 mgs. of the B's


So even at half a serving Animal Pak has more b vitamins

Looks like you are correct. I made up a little spread sheet here comparing the OT to half serving of AP. I don't thinki made any typos, but the half serving of AP doesnt look to compelling to buy it instead of OT.

Sell me on the AP :-)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3950/screenhunter01sep091825gz9.jpg

[heyimaniceguy]

What does everyone think about Alive and Source of Life?

[Ultra_Magnus]

I think that the best multivitamin is PS Essentials found at http://www.doc1vitamins.com

PS Essentials are pharmaceutical grade supplements that are manufactured at FDA-approved facilities. The supplement contains the highest quality ingredients without harmful fillers or additives. This product was developed by a scientific advisory board of physicians. 90 day guarantee can't beat that. Just my two cents!

Wow, strong plug :-P

[JamesJJk]

Universal Animal Pak
NOW ADAM
AST Multi Pro 32X

I honestly can't make a decision on which one to go with... Does anyone think one is significantly better?

[EMISGOD]

I have been taking MHP Activite Sport

only 4 tablets and the ingredients are awesome!

I'd say this is my second-favorite. My first is AlphaMale from Shocker Nutrition. Rather unique formula, to my mind and it's very economical.

[Mugshot]

Universal Animal Pak

[Ultra_Magnus]

Universal Animal Pak
NOW ADAM
AST Multi Pro 32X

I honestly can't make a decision on which one to go with... Does anyone think one is significantly better?

AST has iron i believe, so ide rule that one out.

[skipper123]

AST has iron i believe, so ide rule that one out.

not trying to be ignorant, but whats wrong with iron?

[terracotta]

The life extension 2-per-day looks solid
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/le/twoperdaytablets.html

[BozMan]

not trying to be ignorant, but whats wrong with iron?

Yeah, I'd also like to know.

[heyimaniceguy]

Yeah, I'd also like to know.

All I know is that it's good for some people, bad for some people.

[terracotta]

Most bodybuilders get adequate iron from their diets. If you do not, then a supplement containing iron is fine. Here (http://www.mckinley.uiuc.edu/Handouts/dietary_sources_iron.html) is a table of foods that contain high amounts of iron that you can use to estimate your dietary iron intake.



The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for iron for non-vegetarian pre-menopausal women is 18 mg/day. The RDA for non-vegetarian men and post-menopausal women is 8 mg/day. Because of iron absorption issues in a healthful, high-fiber vegetarian diet, the RDAs for vegetarians are higher - 14 mg/day for vegetarian men and 33 mg/day for vegetarian women.

[poppa_boner]

I take the GNC Ultra Mega Gold Multivitamins

[unohu69]

I use gnc mega men time release formula. However when I started takin them i thought they were tweakin me out a little, but now I have started to work out, and am generally more serious about changing my body. still alot to take in but im tryin to learn.

[Dook_net]

not trying to be ignorant, but whats wrong with iron?

Excess iron in men can lead to heart disease. That's why you'll notice men's formulas usually contain no iron while women's will. Do a quick search on yahoo "high iron in men" and the first link should have all the info you need.

Besides, meats are high in iron so if you eat alot of meat like most people on this board your probably getting more than enough.

[skipper123]

Thank you. i eat a lot of meat, i usually get kicked out of all you can eat mongolian bbq's coz i stack it with meat / :)

[autodcr]

I'm using Activite Sport Time Release. and so far its working pretty good. loving it

[Matt G.]

I use gnc mega men time release formula. However when I started takin them i thought they were tweakin me out a little, but now I have started to work out, and am generally more serious about changing my body. still alot to take in but im tryin to learn.

dude i feel the same way!! i take the gnc mega men and i feel like im on crack!! its a weird feeling..

[Rob Awesome]

I began taking AST's Multi 32X over a year ago. It was good.

I then took Opti-men by Optimum Nutrition.

Now I'm on the Pak, but I may switch off it for awhile. Monetary issues (I'm only a student)

[JamesJJk]

I began taking AST's Multi 32X over a year ago. It was good.

I then took Opti-men by Optimum Nutrition.

Now I'm on the Pak, but I may switch off it for awhile. Monetary issues (I'm only a student)
How has Pak been for you...? Worth the money?

[bulldog71]

I guess if you want underdosed b-vitamins....

That would be true if you didn't consume any meats, dairy or leafy green vegetables, all of which serve up b-vitamins. If your urine changes color, then it means that you are "spilling" the riboflavin (B2) that is more than your personal saturation level of that particular B. Most of us get more than enough B's in our regular diets.

Animal Pak! It was forged in the Halls of Valhalla by the great Odin himself to nourish his favorite son, Thor!

[wtfmate08]

Guys really this iron business has to stop. Is it bad to supplement it? Yes, in LARGE doses. Notice some vitamins have a ridiculous % of your RDI. You don't want hundreds or thousands % of iron. You don't pee it out, and that much is bad for you. 100% or even 200 or 300% isn't terribly bad for you. one serving of AST has 33%. It's fine. It's like eating a LITTLE extra bit of something that contains iron. Even over a long period that small amount won't do jack.

Case closed and research this issue if you'd like, I'm not just blowing smoke.

[RobertBeedle]

Great, so I do think it's wise for this topic to get back on track. As of right now, I'm taking a mens once a day, it's off brand but has nearly exactly the same contents as a mens every day pill at GNC.

[kilim51]

Total multi-noob here, placing an order soon; just a toss up between AST 32x and NOW Adam. Prolly Adam.

[Dymondintheruff]

I take the GNC Ultra Mega Gold Multivitamins

I take those ones too. They're good. Um...I work at a supplement store and have tried many. Didn't notice any difference in how I felt while using them. As far as iron goes it can make some people constipated but it could also be the calcium doing that. Just my guess.

[Dymondintheruff]

Oh yeah, forgot. I like the Universal brand and personally would go with those if I had to pick.

[Julian_H]

Guys really this iron business has to stop. Is it bad to supplement it? Yes, in LARGE doses. Notice some vitamins have a ridiculous % of your RDI. You don't want hundreds or thousands % of iron. You don't pee it out, and that much is bad for you. 100% or even 200 or 300% isn't terribly bad for you. one serving of AST has 33%. It's fine. It's like eating a LITTLE extra bit of something that contains iron. Even over a long period that small amount won't do jack.

Case closed and research this issue if you'd like, I'm not just blowing smoke.

he's right. this supplemental iron business has been blown way out of proportion.

[metal2469]

Controlled Labs "Orange Triad"

[TheTotalPackage]

UNIVERSAL ANIMAL PAKs

Get them from BB.com to get them at a better price. Overall its the best *********.net rates it as the best, so does BB.com They may smell bad but they are definately worth it. I only take one a day and thats enough. They Give you lots of energy through out the whole day. I would not recommend anyone to take it after 4pm. I did that and it kept me up all night. I recommend taking it in the morning.

[naturalguy]

Guys really this iron business has to stop. Is it bad to supplement it? Yes, in LARGE doses. Notice some vitamins have a ridiculous % of your RDI. You don't want hundreds or thousands % of iron. You don't pee it out, and that much is bad for you. 100% or even 200 or 300% isn't terribly bad for you. one serving of AST has 33%. It's fine. It's like eating a LITTLE extra bit of something that contains iron. Even over a long period that small amount won't do jack.

Case closed and research this issue if you'd like, I'm not just blowing smoke.

Amen, couldn't agree more

[taseal]

animal pack for me... I think its too much though. I pee flororescant yellow, soo....

[4nicate]

animal pack for me... I think its too much though. I pee flororescant yellow, soo....

Drink more water.

[4nicate]

Animal pak ftw

[ashe_rox]

i think animal pak is the best

[Lucky_ROA]

Animal Pak, but I cant afford it :(

[sapaz85]

Animal pak.It's not just a multi-vitamin and has other ingredients to help you grow.

[Pure-Natural]

Animal Pak
Activite

[XMS]

GNC Mega Men Sport

[metal2469]

Controlled Lab's Orange Triad

[Pumpit LOUDA]

Hey so it seems everybody is freaking out about ON's 100% Gold Standard.. But nobody mentioned their opti-men muli vit. Just curious why..maybe im just missing somethin retarted.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Controlled Lab's Orange Triad
yup, you just cant beat it for what you get :)

[JFong87]

I say Animal Pak.

I had been using GNC's Mega Men Sport, however, I switched to Animal Pak about 2 months ago. At first I felt exactly the same but within he last month I've started to finally increase my strength after being stationary for some time. I havent changed any of my other supplements so I blame it on the Pak.

[Veedub]

CNP Pro Vital but then I have not tried that many vit & antioxidant supps. this one works for me.

[Universal Rep]

I say Animal Pak.

I had been using GNC's Mega Men Sport, however, I switched to Animal Pak about 2 months ago. At first I felt exactly the same but within he last month I've started to finally increase my strength after being stationary for some time. I havent changed any of my other supplements so I blame it on the Pak.

Thanks for the blame bro. Plenty of that going around here: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=5653

[mertmyers]

Universal Animal Pak

[gdogg75]

controlled labs Orange Triad -

only thing i notice now... is that i have to consume water much quicker than what i used to... i am up to 1-1.5 gallons of water a day...

[CrusaderKnight]

I use GNC megamen sport

[ASFx]

Im using GNC Mega Men Original

[trueathlete]

HARD Nutritions Vita X.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hard/vita.html

[CONTROLLED LABS]

controlled labs Orange Triad -

only thing i notice now... is that i have to consume water much quicker than what i used to... i am up to 1-1.5 gallons of water a day...

glad you are enjoying it. how long have you been on it?

[leoric45]

I've been using Animal Pak for a few weeks now. I love this stuff. Its the best multi vitamin I have taken so far.

[kxtreme]

NOW Adam or Optimum Opti-men? which one is better?

[gdogg75]

glad you are enjoying it. how long have you been on it?
i have been on it for one week... my "toilet torpedoes" have been more solid since i have been taking it... not constipation... but pretty close... but that is my fault(should have raised my water consumption quicker :D).. i will do a review soon

[micdaddy]

AST's multi

[Medford]

I love animal pak. Covers all the basis so much more than a single multi

[Universal Rep]

For the third year in a row and for as long as BB.com had the awards, Animal Pak has won the "Best Multi of the Year" award (2005, 2006, and 2007). Thanks for your confidence and continued support.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

controlled labs Orange Triad -

only thing i notice now... is that i have to consume water much quicker than what i used to... i am up to 1-1.5 gallons of water a day...


i have been on it for one week... my "toilet torpedoes" have been more solid since i have been taking it... not constipation... but pretty close... but that is my fault(should have raised my water consumption quicker :D).. i will do a review soon

looking forward to the review :)

[New York]

OK so i got my Universal Animal Pak.
So many great reviews i figure why not...
I usually take my Multi in the morning. the ( will not bore you with everything I took) but depending on if it was cardio or heavy work out etc etc
I took the suppliment I felt was correct & at the correct time.

The package says eat all of it 30 min before my work out with my Pre workout meal...
Nothing the rest of the day????

Is that how you longtime believers in the product use it?

[p-lar]

Now Adam or EcoGreen

[Universal Rep]

OK so i got my Universal Animal Pak.
So many great reviews i figure why not...
I usually take my Multi in the morning. the ( will not bore you with everything I took) but depending on if it was cardio or heavy work out etc etc
I took the suppliment I felt was correct & at the correct time.

The package says eat all of it 30 min before my work out with my Pre workout meal...
Nothing the rest of the day????

Is that how you longtime believers in the product use it?

Pak has a 100% guarantee, so it's win-win. Typically, one pack per day, usually with breakfast. But you can take it with lunch or dinner--but most of the fellas I know take it with breakfast.

[New York]

Pak has a 100% guarantee, so it's win-win. Typically, one pack per day, usually with breakfast. But you can take it with lunch or dinner--but most of the fellas I know take it with breakfast.

Maybe I did not ask the question right.
I take my suppliments timed to what I eat & what my activity is at that time.

So I might have a Post work out Creatine or a Pre work out Glutimine.
Or a Tea Extract during cardio etc etc ya get the idea.
With Animal Pac it is all at once all 11 pills & then nothing during the day at all??.
Since this is not the way I am used to taking my Suppliments I find it a little strange.
I have always been taught that timing of the correct suppliment is as important as taking it..

That is really the feed back i am trying to get.


Also Universal Rep Since I guess you work for the company
Can you tell me the reasoning behind taking all at once?

Thanks

[Fitsho]

I would definitely have to say....MHP Activite Sport FTW!!!

[brintsta]

AST Multi-Pro 32x all the way!!

[micdaddy]

I would definitely have to say....MHP Activite Sport FTW!!!

Good call. Formula looks great for the price. Will give it a try.

[kxtreme]

Can I ask why a lot of people here are trying to avoid multivitamins with iron in it? Iron deficiency leads to anemia.

Also I eat a bowl of Total cereal every morning, is a multivitamin supplement still necessary?

[Lunarisx718]

Liquid Vitamin Plus by Utrition

[Universal Rep]

Maybe I did not ask the question right.
I take my suppliments timed to what I eat & what my activity is at that time.

So I might have a Post work out Creatine or a Pre work out Glutimine.
Or a Tea Extract during cardio etc etc ya get the idea.
With Animal Pac it is all at once all 11 pills & then nothing during the day at all??.
Since this is not the way I am used to taking my Suppliments I find it a little strange.
I have always been taught that timing of the correct suppliment is as important as taking it..

That is really the feed back i am trying to get.


Also Universal Rep Since I guess you work for the company
Can you tell me the reasoning behind taking all at once?

Thanks

Yes, you take it all at once. For example, all 11 pills with breakfast. The tablets are designed for time-release, with different coatings. The goal is to have the right nutrients dissolving in the right places. Hope this helps.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Can I ask why a lot of people here are trying to avoid multivitamins with iron in it? Iron deficiency leads to anemia.

Also I eat a bowl of Total cereal every morning, is a multivitamin supplement still necessary?

very few people are iron deficient in the developed world. too much iron is much much worse. go for an iron free multi like orange triad :)

[bigjim2006]

I really like optimium's opti-men...you get everything in 3 pills instead of 6-8 pills...

[wolfsburg2]

i wrote a review for Animal Pak just this morning. I am a happy user and will continue to support universal.

Just my .02.

[Universal Rep]

i wrote a review for Animal Pak just this morning. I am a happy user and will continue to support universal.

Just my .02.

Thought that was M-Stak? Got one up for Pak too bro?

[ASFx]

Im using GNC Mega Men Original

After researching more, I have now realized the awesomeness of the animal pak. Just ordered 3 cans.

[hjayss]

The best multi...$16.49 at bestpricenutrition.com...best multi out there you get a 44 day supply very good deal ,however you can not put a price your health. I would pay more if I had too..

[giametta88]

http://www.all-one.com/en/images/orig_225x300.jpg
http://www.vitabase.com/Images/Supplements/Medium/GreenVibrance.jpg

I throw these in my morning shake with ON Natural Chocolate. http://www.all-one.com/en/original.php
http://www.vibranthealth.org/gv.html

There's so much great stuff in it. It doesn't taste amazing, but I don't care about taste.

I've only gotten one cold in the past year of taking the Green Vibrance. I missed 20 days of school per year. No more allergies anymore either. No more bloody noses. I swear by it because it improves nearly everything. This will give you energy the right way, in my opinion.

I added the All One powder ensure I get the things I miss with diet.

[Universal Rep]

After researching more, I have now realized the awesomeness of the animal pak. Just ordered 3 cans.

People have been since 1983... Glad you're aboard bro.

[navydolphin73]

I love the universal stacks/packs, but the PRO32X has everything you need in it, with just 2 pills a day.

[kxtreme]

very few people are iron deficient in the developed world. too much iron is much much worse. go for an iron free multi like orange triad :)
is eating total cereal everyday bad for you then?

[terracotta]

is eating total cereal everyday bad for you then?

You'll be fine.

[Quicksilva]

After reading the forum I was about to dive in and buy the Animal Pak but I have only 2 concerns.

1: I know its been mentioned before but even on my current multi vitamin (which is 1/5 as potent) I take twice a day and I normally piss yellow that means wastage? Taking animal pack is alot more in 1 go and surely most of what is going down the hatch will go to waste?

2: I have read that too much Vitamin A can lead to sudden hair loss. Is this not a problem with Animal Pak? I saw 1 person complain about it somewhere.

[Animal Rep]

After reading the forum I was about to dive in and buy the Animal Pak but I have only 2 concerns.

1: I know its been mentioned before but even on my current multi vitamin (which is 1/5 as potent) I take twice a day and I normally piss yellow that means wastage? Taking animal pack is alot more in 1 go and surely most of what is going down the hatch will go to waste?

2: I have read that too much Vitamin A can lead to sudden hair loss. Is this not a problem with Animal Pak? I saw 1 person complain about it somewhere.

Hey bro, just to address your concerns, if you notice yellow piss you?re just pissing out some of the extra B vitamins. B vitamins are called the energy vitamins because they are required for the production of energy. They are growth vitamins, crucial to anabolism. So if you?re pissing them out, it means the Pak is working and your nutritional tanks are full. As for the vitamin A, Pak uses mainly beta cartone, which in short, is a precursor to Vit A and has strong antioxidant properties.

[ASFx]

After reading the forum I was about to dive in and buy the Animal Pak but I have only 2 concerns.

1: I know its been mentioned before but even on my current multi vitamin (which is 1/5 as potent) I take twice a day and I normally piss yellow that means wastage? Taking animal pack is alot more in 1 go and surely most of what is going down the hatch will go to waste?

2: I have read that too much Vitamin A can lead to sudden hair loss. Is this not a problem with Animal Pak? I saw 1 person complain about it somewhere.

Also remember that the pills in the pak have different coatings for timed release. The pills arent all getting absorbed at the same time.

[Universal Rep]

After reading the forum I was about to dive in and buy the Animal Pak but I have only 2 concerns.

1: I know its been mentioned before but even on my current multi vitamin (which is 1/5 as potent) I take twice a day and I normally piss yellow that means wastage? Taking animal pack is alot more in 1 go and surely most of what is going down the hatch will go to waste?

2: I have read that too much Vitamin A can lead to sudden hair loss. Is this not a problem with Animal Pak? I saw 1 person complain about it somewhere.

The fellas who take the Pak affectionately call it "pak piss": http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=3123

[Universal Rep]

Also remember that the pills in the pak have different coatings for timed release. The pills arent all getting absorbed at the same time.

That's right...

[naturalguy]

Animal Pak is more than just a multi. It's actually 5 products in one - multi, amino's, performance optimizers, essential fatty acids & digestive enzymes. :)

[Universal Rep]

Animal Pak is more than just a multi. It's actually 5 products in one - multi, amino's, performance optimizers, essential fatty acids & digestive enzymes. :)

I stand corrected.

[TheRiverStyx]

Definitely Animal Pak. I have been using it for 2 months now and am very happy with just the overall way it makes me feel. I don't know if it's just mental or if its the ginseng or whatnot-- but it seems to clear your head and definitely helps strength gains.

[thira12]

hey i thing opti-men rulez

[Soul-Obtainer]

I take an ouch or 2 of vibe aday. Eniva makes this great multi-vitamin liquid

[13jrod]

GNC's Mega Man. Thats all I have ever used. Thinkin on switching to the animal pak. yeaaaaaa!!! FIRST REPLY FOR ME!

[Mark from LP]

Strive's Pro-Vit has to be one of the best Multiple Vitamin packs on the market.

* Comes caplets, capsules and softgels (not just hard compressed pills)
* Has a Fish Oil Pill 180mg EPA, 120mg DHA)
* Contains a Liver Support Complex (Milk Thistle, Dandelion, NAC)
* Has a Glucose Support Complex (R+ALA, Cinnamon, Chromium)

http://www.livepurehealth.ca/store/product.php?productid=16546&cat=0&page=1

[ricekiller]

opti men ftw! i love 3 pills a day

[chillinn86]

Does animal pak have a good source of bcaa's?

[flyingDuc]

If you had to pick just ONE multi-vitamin/mineral product, what would be the best one?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take multi-vitamins, if you should take multi-vitamins, or why some multi-vitamins are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite multi-vitamin product and give your detailed reason.) Garden Of Life Mens Multi - i perfer whole food vitamin - no one has disproved his quality.

[Too swole]

I've been taking ADAM for years but I'm gonna give animal pack a shot.

[pumpordump]

What about Purivol ClearComplex for acne? Have any of you used it?

[THE BOUNCER]

I like GNC's Mega Men Sport. (the only thing i buy from GNC.)

[aaandy]

I use ON Opti-men Multivitamins.

I tried my friend's Animal Pak, I swear I was going to be sick after getting all those pills down. I hear they're the best though, I guess I just gotta quit being a girl about it haha...

[Ippeas2003]

NOW ADAM multivitamins work great!

[naturalguy]

I use ON Opti-men Multivitamins.

I tried my friend's Animal Pak, I swear I was going to be sick after getting all those pills down. I hear they're the best though, I guess I just gotta quit being a girl about it haha...


Yup, take off the skirt, it's called Animal for a reason.

[G.W. Hayduke]

At BB.com, the very best multi-vite/mineral supp is the ZMK/MVP365 stack by Millenium Sport Nutrition.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ms/mvp.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ms/zmk.html

I'm stacking these two right now, and nothing beats 'em. ZMK at night knocks you out like a super-ZMA supp. MVP365 is one of the highest quality multis I've ever seen. Strong foundation stack right there. It costs a bit more than your regular cheapo multi, but you do get what you pay for. New staple for me.



MVP 365 FAQs

Q: Why is there only 120mg of Calcium in MVP-365?

A: Let's count the reasons:

* Serious athletes consume ample calcium containing foods such as green leafy veggies, salmon, tofu, peas, broccoli, beans, nuts, fortified bread, fortified cereals, fortified orange juice and dairy products which include milk, cheese, and yogurt.
* Most athletes consume abundant amounts of whey and casein protein which are very calcium rich.
* Most athletes are already magnesium deficient. More calcium will only exacerbate this situation leading to further depleted magnesium levels, decreased recovery and muscle cramps.
* Space - We squeezed all of the MVP-365 ingredients into four small OO size capsules for ease of swallowing. Any more mineral content would have increased the number of capsules in the serving or the size of the capsule.

Q: Where are all of the other minerals I normally see in multi-vitamins?

A: Most sport nutritionists recommend that you consume your vitamins during the day with food and your minerals at night before bed. 99.9% of vitamins you can purchase don't allow for this. We omitted nearly all of the minerals in MVP-365 (except the Krebs calcium, 20mg of Magnesium and Iodine) to make way for our nighttime multi-mineral complex ZMK. The protocol is simple, take MVP-365? during the day with food and ZMK? at night before bedtime.

Q: What is ZMK?

A: ZMK is the second piece in your "foundation of health". Think of it as the ultimate mineral counterpart to MVP-365. ZMK is the only Krebs cycle chelated Zinc and Magnesium product with active co-enzymal P-5-P vitamin B-6 and a full spectrum Kreb's cycle chelated mineral support blend. ZMK is formulated to not only maximize recovery, sleep, hormone stasis, pH balance and cardiovascular health but also to bolster ATP. ZMK is the perfect mineral compliment to MVP-365's vitamins and the ultimate replacement for ZMA.

Q: Why doesn't MVP-365 have a joint blend or other blends in it?

A: We chose to make the best multiple vitamin available to an athlete based on the four most important nutritional needs of an athlete. We chose not to cut corners in any way and a joint or other blends simply didn't make the cut.

Our goal was to provide:

* Ultra bioavailable vitamins in the body's preferred active forms.
* Maximum antioxidant protection to combat exercise induced free radical damage.
* Maximum clean, long lasting energy
* Adaptogenic support for exercise induced stress.

Q: Why isn't MVP-365 whole food based?

A: There are two main reasons:

#1. The majority of so called "whole-food" based multi vitamins on the market are marketed incorrectly and should not be allowed to bear that name. Most consist of yeast or probiotics that are fed regular, non active, low bioavailable forms of vitamins. Once the yeast assimilates some vitamin content they are then freeze dried or spray dried. Does this sound like whole food? The fact is that these are vitamins bound to yeast or probiotics and even though they are a smidge more bioavailable than the conventional vitamins they were fed they are nearly always substandard and lack the proper potency required by an athlete.

#2. To get enough vitamin content out of a true "whole-food" vitamin (a vitamin actually made from whole foods) an athlete would need to consume a whopping 12-16 capsule daily serving. Four capsules just for 500mg of whole food based vitamin c.

Q: Why isn't MVP-365 in a veggie cap?

A: We chose to put MVP-365 in a gelatin cap for its ability to dissolve faster in the stomach and assimilate faster than a veggie cellulose capsule. Some veggie caps require more time to breakdown than some tablets. We simply wanted a rapid release, fast acting product.

Q: Why doesn't it contain more adaptogens?

A: "Synergy"! You see the co-enzyme b-complex & mineral ascorbates combine to make the best, most bioavailable "stress vitamin" combination available. When you combine the ashwagandha, astragalus and spirulina on top of that it's quite an efficient adrenal support blend. It was potent enough to allow us capsule space for more antioxidants.

Q: Is MVP-365 right for a woman even though it has no added iron?

A: Obviously we all have different nutritional needs. The fact is that most menstruating women tend be anemic due to a lack of vitamin B-12 rather than a lack of iron. MVP-365 contains 500mcg of active B-12 as methylcobalamin. If you have been diagnosed as anemic by your doctor and are taking a separate iron supplement MVP-365 is certainly compatible with it.

Q: Can an athlete with extreme nutritional needs take more than the recommended dose?

A: The combination of active and ultra bioavailable vitamin forms in MVP-365 allows you to assimilate and use far more nutrients than conventional vitamins so it may not be needed, but it is safe to increase the dose for those under extreme stress. We do not recommend taking more than 8 capsules in 24 hours.

Q: Why is there only 25mg of P-5-P B-6 in MVP when all of the other B-Vitamins are higher dosed?

A: We chose to provide 25mg during the day in the MVP and an additional 25mg in ZMK for extra rapid assimilation and transport of the minerals. Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate is incredibly bioavailable and 25mg per day is plenty even without getting extra in ZMK.

[TANK25]

Just started taking Animal Pak for the last month and I love it.

[clark101]

gotta love the old animal pack.....number 1 in my book.

[TheElephantman]

animal pak over here too in fact after taking those paks i feel like a multi vitamin

[G.W. Hayduke]

tools

[darkfact]

I used AST multi-pro for years and switched to NOW adam this past year. Honestly can't tell the difference but I've had good success with other NOW products.

[depratercm]

I use ON Opti-men Multivitamins.

I tried my friend's Animal Pak, I swear I was going to be sick after getting all those pills down. I hear they're the best though, I guess I just gotta quit being a girl about it haha...

I just my Animal PAK and just started taken them yesterday, those are some big freakin' horse pills, haven't had any problem getting the down or messin' up my stomach. A lot other multivitamin mess up my stomach.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

is eating total cereal everyday bad for you then?

if you eat 10 bowls, then maybe :)

just get orange triad and you wont need to worry about iron since its iron free ;)

[kskwerl]

I just my Animal PAK and just started taken them yesterday, those are some big freakin' horse pills, haven't had any problem getting the down or messin' up my stomach. A lot other multivitamin mess up my stomach.

At first I wanted to kill myself taking all 11 pills in the Animal Pak. Now it's fine, some freak I talked to says he takes them all at once.

[Tifore]

Can any of you Orange Triad users take a picture of the pill size?
Is it large?
I have trouble swallowing pills. Always have. I think for that reason alone I should stay away from animal pack. I can get one large pill down everyday but not 11.

[NYY]

Just started taking Animal Pak for the last month and I love it.

I just started it a few weeks ago and I agree.

[master chemist]

Can any of you Orange Triad users take a picture of the pill size?
Is it large?
I have trouble swallowing pills. Always have. I think for that reason alone I should stay away from animal pack. I can get one large pill down everyday but not 11.

Try our (Pharmagenx) Lifter Liquid Multivitamin. Taste great with 200% of USDRA of all Vits and 10% of all mineral in just 8 ml. We provide a satisfaction guarantee with all our products.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pg/multi.html

[pete997]

Overall, i've seen positive responses [in this thread] to universal's animal pak. Once I finish my bottle of Centrum, I believe I will also make the switch...

BUT, whey 'you guys' say 'it works well for me,' what do you mean? That is, what's a good way to determine whether the multi-vitamin someone is taking is working/effective?

[dakingofhtx]

First off, this is my first post. I just found out about this forum last week. There is so much info that I have read so far. I have been reading this thread to get some ideas about which supplements to take. I wanted to make sure I was on the right path. I read the first 12 pages and I am exhausted. I knew the market was flooded with multis., but I had no idea. So, anyway, the best vitamin that I have tried is IntraMax. It is a liquid vitamin. When I started this, I noticed a difference immediately. When I take it, I get a boost of energy that lasts for hours. I actually like it. It's inexpensive. Here's a .pdf file with the ingredients:

http://www.druckerlabs.com/images/intraMAX%20Ingred-34%20%2004-10-2006.pdf
http://www.druckerlabs.com/documents/intraMAXLabelRev1206B.pdf

[Triple_A]

is it ok for 16 year old to be taking Animal stack?

[biggclint]

At first I wanted to kill myself taking all 11 pills in the Animal Pak. Now it's fine, some freak I talked to says he takes them all at once.

I take them all at once. I thought thats what your suppose to do. Also I'm almost completely done with the Animal Pak and was wanting recommendations on my next purchase. I want to take a break from 11pills a day, but I still want something above average.

[SuperSonic88]

Alive!

look it up

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Can any of you Orange Triad users take a picture of the pill size?
Is it large?
I have trouble swallowing pills. Always have. I think for that reason alone I should stay away from animal pack. I can get one large pill down everyday but not 11.
here you go, it is smaller than the standard 00 capsule (this is a blue up capsule) :)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/15509012833.jpg

[ImBIGGERThanU]

Everyone here knows that the best source is actual food - multi's are to make up for defeciencies in the diet (i.e. your not getting enough).

Taking more than one multi (pill) doesn't make sense... the body can only use a certain amount of vitamins and minerals, everything else is pissed out.

seeing how this happens with one small multivitamin... imagine how much is simply going down the toilet when you take 3-9 horsepills...

just a thought.

[G.W. Hayduke]

horsepills...
Horses are pretty.


MVP/ZMK multivitamin and mineral combo. This is the very best in the entire BB.com store.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ms/mvp.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ms/zmk.html

[Millennium 1]

Horses are pretty.


MVP/ZMK multivitamin and mineral combo. This is the very best in the entire BB.com store.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ms/mvp.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ms/zmk.html

X2! Listen to the man, he knows what he is talking about. :D

[Alphy]

First off, this is my first post. I just found out about this forum last week. There is so much info that I have read so far. I have been reading this thread to get some ideas about which supplements to take. I wanted to make sure I was on the right path. I read the first 12 pages and I am exhausted. I knew the market was flooded with multis., but I had no idea. So, anyway, the best vitamin that I have tried is IntraMax. It is a liquid vitamin. When I started this, I noticed a difference immediately. When I take it, I get a boost of energy that lasts for hours. I actually like it. It's inexpensive. Here's a .pdf file with the ingredients:

http://www.druckerlabs.com/images/intraMAX%20Ingred-34%20%2004-10-2006.pdf
http://www.druckerlabs.com/documents/intraMAXLabelRev1206B.pdf

Inexpensive? It surely wasnt when I was trying it.




Horses are pretty.


MVP/ZMK multivitamin and mineral combo. This is the very best in the entire BB.com store.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ms/mvp.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ms/zmk.html

Bold statement. Without even bothering to bring the product ingredients or quantities into question.....the price seems rather high for the product dont ya think?

[NickSpinnat03]

some freak I talked to says he takes them all at once.

Nothing wrong with popping the whole thing...

[CrusaderKnight]

I just use a GNC megaman sport.

[urb420]

centrum performance

[G.W. Hayduke]

Bold statement. Without even bothering to bring the product ingredients or quantities into question.....the price seems rather high for the product dont ya think?
Actually, it is because I do bring product ingredients and quantities into question that I recommend the MVP/ZMK stack. Anyone who is well educated in the way that vitamins and minerals work will recognize it as a superior product.

[Endeavourer]

Animal pak.

__________________
Dipsh!t's Journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4415253

[Alphy]

Actually, it is because I do bring product ingredients and quantities into question that I recommend the MVP/ZMK stack. Anyone who is well educated in the way that vitamins and minerals work will recognize it as a superior product.

I personally wouldnt take the product due to the amount of Vitamin E and Niacin just from readings in the past. My whole question is....why do you feel it stands out so much beyond some options at a fraction of it's cost. I wont argue that it's not a decent profile of vitamins and minerals, but the cost is rather up there. Without actually breaking out the calculator and excel, I would think a person could come up with some similiar for a fraction of the cost.

And some of the stuff(at least the stuff im familiar with) seems rather low doses, dont ya think? Ingredients such as tumeric, grape seed, lutein, lycopene, CoQ10, and bioflavanoids.

Since your self proclaimed as being well educated in the way of vitamins and minerals I would love to here your input.....im always open to being schooled in regards to multi's. Multi info interests me :)

[dakingofhtx]

Inexpensive? It surely wasnt when I was trying it.

I only pay $63.75 for mine and it's free shipping. Is that too much? Like I said in my post, I went to this from Centrum Performance. So, that was a price jump.

[Alphy]

I only pay $63.75 for mine and it's free shipping. Is that too much? Like I said in my post, I went to this from Centrum Performance. So, that was a price jump.

For a multi, I would say yeah....it's not too cheap. The product contains TONNNNS of ingredients, almost everything under the sun. Unfortunately when I looked into it further I noticed the doses of each were rather small. When asking a company rep about it all they could say is that the ingredients absorb better due to the whole carbon deal. When I asked for any kind of studies backing up their statements I believe I was told there were none. I felt like the rep started getting annoyed with my questioning.....acted like I should just believe them or go elsewhere.

It started to seem alittle shady to me so I decided to stop spending the $70/month on it. I have tried numerous products since and feel that I put something together just as effective for a fraction of the cost.

[mrkuwait]

Universal Animal Pak
Using it for 6 months now. Keeps me active all day long.
and gives me an animal power in the GYM.

[bobbylemke]

GNC Ultra Mega Gold. It's more potent in just about all of the vitamins and minerals as animal pak and its cheaper too.

[Juiced Up Jeff]

Defly Universal's Animal Pak.

Laundry List of ingredients covers every end of the spectrum!
Multi Of the Year in 2005, 06, & 07!

Downside- each pak is 11 pills! (some can't handle that many, I know I can't)

Substitute- Met Rx Multi Pro 32x is my favorite! Almost as good of a product in just 1 pill for like half the price!

"Juiced Up Jeff"
Bodybuilding.com Rep

[Universal Rep]

Many fellas here use Animal Pak... Consistently among the top 6-7 best selling products at all of BB.com.

In early 2008, the Animal Pak's label (and other Animal products) will change. The formulas will remain the same however.

To check out with the new label will look like:

Animal Pak's Progress (http://animalpak.com/html/article_details.cfm?ID=390)

[Doughboy]

Many fellas here use Animal Pak... Consistently among the top 6-7 best selling products at all of BB.com.

In early 2008, the Animal Pak's label (and other Animal products) will change. The formulas will remain the same however.

To check out with the new label will look like:

Animal Pak's Progress (http://animalpak.com/html/article_details.cfm?ID=390)

You need to put this in the company promo section not in here.

[mrkuwait]

Many fellas here use Animal Pak... Consistently among the top 6-7 best selling products at all of BB.com.

In early 2008, the Animal Pak's label (and other Animal products) will change. The formulas will remain the same however.

To check out with the new label will look like:

Animal Pak's Progress (http://animalpak.com/html/article_details.cfm?ID=390)

Thanks for the info budy and Must say I love the New Look....

[1968mustang302]

animal pack all the way... the first time i took it i was like wtf. because my piss was brightly colored like mountain dew and i just drank like 64 oz of water lol but now its pretty cool

[G.W. Hayduke]

Many fellas here use Animal Pak... Consistently among the top 6-7 best selling products at all of BB.com.

In early 2008, the Animal Pak's label (and other Animal products) will change. The formulas will remain the same however.
[/URL]

Very cool, but don't you think it's time to update Animal Pak. From the looks of the label on BB.com, it could use a serious makeover.

[RonShipman]

Try our (Pharmagenx) Lifter Liquid Multivitamin. Taste great with 200% of USDRA of all Vits and 10% of all mineral in just 8 ml. We provide a satisfaction guarantee with all our products.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pg/multi.html

Not enough B Vitamins for a Heavy Weight monster.

[RonShipman]

Alive!

look it up

yes for the money Alive is the one. I think it's better than Adam, Animal Pak, Orange Tried, AST. The ingredients are superior, whole food complex.

[Triple_A]

Doesnt multivitamin cause acne?

[RedFusion]

18 dollars for a months supply?

[bigjake64]

NOW Adam - plus only $10 a month

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Doesnt multivitamin cause acne?

no

[Richard2002]

For the moment animal pack is the best but must be taken wit plenty of water during the day

[Alphy]

yes for the money Alive is the one. I think it's better than Adam, Animal Pak, Orange Tried, AST. The ingredients are superior, whole food complex.

The ingredients are superior why? If you mean that they are derived from whole foods ya better look again. They are synthetic vitamins/minerals just like 99% of the other multi's.

The "whole food complex" are the things such as:
Garden Veggies Blend 100 mg
Green Food/Spirulina Blend 500 mg
Orchard Fruits Blend 100 mg

100mg doses for some of the stuff? Come on....that certainly doesnt make this multi better than anything else.

[Universal Rep]

Very cool, but don't you think it's time to update Animal Pak. From the looks of the label on BB.com, it could use a serious makeover.

Can't think of a single bodybuilding supplement that has been around for 25 years, proven time and time again in the gym on on stage. In those 25 years, our bodies haven't changed. If it ain't broke...

[joshfby]

I am using Optimum Nutrition's Opti-men, and am satisfied with the product. It's not like creatine where you can tell a difference whether you are on it or not, I feel like the risks of not taking a multi are too high not to do so.

[DRAKE101]

Animal Pak Owns

[RonShipman]

The ingredients are superior why? If you mean that they are derived from whole foods ya better look again. They are synthetic vitamins/minerals just like 99% of the other multi's.

The "whole food complex" are the things such as:
Garden Veggies Blend 100 mg
Green Food/Spirulina Blend 500 mg
Orchard Fruits Blend 100 mg

100mg doses for some of the stuff? Come on....that certainly doesnt make this multi better than anything else.

No not the best, just better than the ones I named earlier.

From Supplement Facts:

Vitamin A: (33% [5,000 IU] as retinol palmitate and 67% [10,000 IU] as beta carotene) providing (typical analysis): beta carotene 5,626mg, gamma carotene 5.6 mcg, trans beta carotene 5.4 mcg, beta zea carotene 1.1 mcg
Green Food/Spirulina Blend: Spirulina (microalgae); Alfalfa (leaf, stem); Barley Grass (grass); Dandelion (leaf); Wheat Grass (grass); Melissa (leaf); Lemon Grass (grass); Nettle (leaf); Blessed Thistle (stem, leaf, flower); Chlorella (broken-cell microalgae); Plantain (leaf); Blue Green Algae (microalgae); Cilantro (leaf)
Amino Acids: (from Spirulina, Zinc AAC, Chlorella, Blue Green Algae, Boron AAC) (Glutamine, Asparagine, Leucine, Alanine, Arginine, Lysine, Threonine, Valine, Glycine, Isoleucine, Serine, Proline, Phenylalanine, Tyrosine, Histidine, Methionine, Tryptopha, Cysteine)
Garden Veggies? Blend: Parsley Juice Powder; Kale Juice Powder,;Spinach Juice Powder; Brussels Sprout Juice Powder; Asparagus Juice Powder; Broccoli Juice Powder; Cauliflower Juice Powder; Beet Juice Powder; Carrot Juice Powder; Cabbage Juice Powder; Garlic Juice Powder
Orchard Fruits? Blend: Plum Juice Powder; Cranberry Juice Powder; Blueberry Juice Powder; Strawberry Juice Powder; Blackberry Juice Powder; Bilberry Juice Powder; Cherry Juice Powder; Apricot Juice Powder; Papaya Juice Powder; Orange Juice Powder; Grape Juice Powder; Pineapple Juice Powder
MycoDefense? Mushroom Blend: Cordyceps Mushroom; Reishi Mushroom; Shiitake Mushroom; Hiratake Mushroom; Maitake Mushroom; Yamabu****ake Mushroom; Kawaratake Mushroom; Chaga Mushroom; Zhu Ling Mushroom; Agarikon Mushroom; Mesima Mushroom
Digestive Enzyme Blend: Concentrated Enzyme formula: (Protease I, Protease II, Peptizyme SP, Amylase, Lactase, Invertase, Lipase, Cellulase, Alpha Galactosidase); Betaine HCl, Bromelain (from pineapple); Papain (from papaya)
Omega Fatty Acid Seed Blend: Flax Seed Powder (dry, cold pressed); Sunflower Seed Powder (dry, cold pressed) (providing Alpha-Linolenic Acid, Oleic Acid, Linoleic Acid, Palmitic Acid, Stearic Acid, Behenic Acid, Gadoleic Acid, Palmitoleic Acid, Eicosanoic Acid, Ligonceric Acid)
Citrus Bioflavonoid Complex: (from lemon, orange, grapefruit, lime and tangerine) providing: Eriocitrin 600 mcg; Naringin, Narirutin, other Flavanones 1.8 mg; Flavonols 600 mcg; Flavones and related phenolic compounds 600mcg



Facts:

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Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 3 Tablets
Servings Per Container: 30

Amount per Serving


Calories Total 5

% Daily Value+


Sodium 15 mg 1%

Total Carbohydrate 1 g <1%

% Daily Value


Vitamin A *see product details 15,000 IU 300%

Vitamin C ascorbic acid 1 g 1667%

Vitamin D as ergocalciferol 400 IU 100%

Vitamin E as d-alpha tocopheryl succinate 200 IU 667%

Vitamin K as phytonadione 80 mcg 100%

Thiamin (B1) as thiamin monoitrate 25 mg 1667%

Riboflavin (B2) Vitamin B2 25 mg 1471%

Niacin (B3) as niacinamide 125 mg 625%

Vitamin B6 as pyridoxine HCI/pyrixodal 5-phosphate 50 mg 2500%

Folate,Folic Acid,Folacin 400 mcg 100%

Vitamin B12 as cyanocobalamin 200 mcg 3333%

Biotin as biotin triturate 300 mcg 100%

Pantothenic acid as d-calcium pantothenate 125 mg 1250%

Calcium as citrate/carbonate 250 mg 25%

Iron as amino acid chelate 18 mg 100%

Iodine from pacific kelp powder 150 mcg 100%

Magnesium as citrate/oxide 125 mg 31%

Zinc as amino acid chelate 15 mg 100%

Selenium as selenium monomethionine 70 mcg 100%

Copper as amino acid chelate 2 mg 100%

Manganese as amino acid chelate 4 mg 200%

Chromium as polynicotinate 120 mcg 100%

Molybdenum as molybdenum triturate 75 mcg 100%

Potassium as amino acid chelate 50 mg 1%


Green Food/Spirulina Blend see product details 500 mg*

Amino Acids see product details 225 mg*

Garden Veggies Blend see product details 100 mg*

Orchard Fruits Blend see product details 100 mg*

MycoDefense Mushroom Blend see product details 100 mg*

Digestive Enzyme Blend see product details 100 mg*

Omega Fatty Acid Blend see product details 100 mg*

Citrus Bioflavanoid Complex see product details 60 mg*

Siberian Eleuthero root 50 mg*

Inositol 50 mg*

Choline as choline bitartrate 30 mg*

PABA para aminobenzoic acid 25 mg*

Rutin 25 mg*

RNA from spirulina, chlorella 14 mg*

DNA from spirulina, chlorella 4 mg*

Chlorophyll from spirulina 4 mg*

Hesperidine from citrus bioflavonoid complex 2 mg*

Boron as amino acid chelate 1 mg*

Lutein from marigold 200 mcg*

* Daily Value not established. + Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.




It out classes many vitamins. Believe it or not fruits and greens are good for you.

[Zachary53088]

mega men

[G.W. Hayduke]

Can't think of a single bodybuilding supplement that has been around for 25 years, proven time and time again in the gym on on stage. In those 25 years, our bodies haven't changed. If it ain't broke...
That is bad logic.

What I'm suggesting is a change in the vitamin/mineral forms used. Cholecalciferol is superior to ergocalciferol. Methylcobalamin is superior to cyanocolbalamin. Nicotinic acid is superior to niacinamide, etc etc. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. The "test of time" has nothing to do with it. I'm suggesting you guys use the most superior forms available TODAY, not 25 years ago.

[mcdeeter]

My money is on Animal Pak.

[Alphy]

It out classes many vitamins. Believe it or not fruits and greens are good for you.

Yes they are.....IF in worthwhile doses. Whats 100mg of a fruit blend comparable too.....half a grape?

[RonShipman]

Yes they are.....IF in worthwhile doses. Whats 100mg of a fruit blend comparable too.....half a grape?

who knows but it's a damn good vitamin

[SPACECLOWN]

Actually, it is because I do bring product ingredients and quantities into question that I recommend the MVP/ZMK stack. Anyone who is well educated in the way that vitamins and minerals work will recognize it as a superior product.

Thanks. We are not the cheapest Multi but you get what you pay for imo. We could have used **** ingredients like others but chose to use the best available ingredients and with hopes that educated consumers will see this and pay the extra for the superior ingredient profile.

[depratercm]

animal pack all the way... the first time i took it i was like wtf. because my piss was brightly colored like mountain dew and i just drank like 64 oz of water lol but now its pretty cool


Heck yeah .... been taken Animal PAK for over two weeks now. I take them about an hour before working out. Give me all kinds of energy and help with my recovery too. YEP ... piss is mountain dew colored, LOL!!!!

[Buff_Daddy]

What do you think of this one? Pure Essence ? I have never seen it mentioned but it looks like a behemoth.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pure/men.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pure/form.html

[Schutzstaffel88]

Animal Pak!!!!!

[mcdeeter]

Gotta agree, my piss is not the same, but the energy and recovery time make up for it.

[NKim215]

what's a good multi-vitamin supplement with milk thistle? Don't feel like taking different pills.

[POR2GUE]

Animal Pak!!!!!!!!! again.

[partyman1980]

I have had great success with Animal Paks. They are also good at getting you healthy again when you are sick. They have everything.

[hoffdawg]

Animal Pak

[Veedub]

I'm being lazy in not looking through every page. I've been using Pro-vital for a while but will switch to animal pak when my present stash is finished.

Can anyone recommend a testosterone support/booster supplement?

[cbucker]

Animal Pak, it's fairly cheap, has tons of nutrients and gives a pre-workout boost of energy. My fav Hands down.

[cbucker]

"Veedub" Maybe you could try Animal M-stack or Animal Test.

[NJMuscle219]

Animal pack

[Universal Rep]

I have had great success with Animal Paks. They are also good at getting you healthy again when you are sick. They have everything.

Thanks P. When Animal Pak was first produced back in 1983, it was designed specifically for serious bodybuilders and powerlifters. Animal Pak is the bodybuilder's multi.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Are you purposefully being platitudinous?

[mustanglifter]

Life force multi-vitamin by Source Naturals.

[AliciaCat]

-Centrum A to Zink, besides being inexpensive, it contains 100% of 18 vitamins and minerals plus the entire antioxidant group

...cost- 2 servings per day Aprox $4.00 a month U S

I also used AST's Multi pro,but after comparing prices and ingrediants I'd rather not spend a fortune on a multi vitamin, This inexpensive multi vitamin along with a healthy diet is all you need (imho)

That's the same as I take. Cheap and effective.

[shoopster]

Animal Pak, I'm just about finished with my first tin of them, I just order another thing of them a little while ago. Great multi's, I get good energy from them. Excellent vitamins.

[skiduire]

Where is a good place to get Animal Pak from? None of my local stores carry it and the shipping from BB.com is half the cost of the damn product itself. That's just unreasonable.

Any other options?

[Universal Rep]

Where is a good place to get Animal Pak from? None of my local stores carry it and the shipping from BB.com is half the cost of the damn product itself. That's just unreasonable.

Any other options?

Animal Pak is available in many places in the U.S. and in over 90 countries outside the U.S. Call the customer service toll-free number to find a local retailer: 800-872-0101. Or email them your question at info@animalpak.com. Good luck bro.

[Veedub]

"Veedub" Maybe you could try Animal M-stack or Animal Test.

Cheers dude.

Is anyone stacking Animal Pak and Animal M-stack?

[julian.now]

The best multi-vitamin is Living Multi by Garden of Life. If you want Whole Food Nutrition, which is optimal for your body, the opt for the Living Multi. Whole Food vitamins like New Chapter, Megafoods, also make great whole food vitamins, but the Living Multi impresses me more than the other two.

It's important to know that your body works best with foods, not synthetics. Synthetic vitamins can cause more harm than good, but with a whole food vitamin that is impossible. Whole Food vitamins are absorbed and utilized by your body much better than synthetics. If you decide to try it, then you'll know what I'm talking about.

[naturalguy]

Cheers dude.

Is anyone stacking Animal Pak and Animal M-stack?

Many people do. Here's some feedback on M-stak:

http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=316

M-stak is one of my favorite products in the line.

[tdog69]

For those of you that are searching for the best multi, I think I have found one that passes all consumer reviews and all third party testing sites and has the correct form of the mineral supplement for the optimum support and delivery. Also it does not have no added BS that a multi shouldn?t have.


BB.com carries it now..
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/source/men.html

I have not tried the product yet, but the price is right, minerals look better than most and it past consumer reports with flying colors.

[inkedouttrucca]

Animal Pack For A Year. Now Trying Now Adam Mutli, With Now Adam Glumatine And Now Adam Bcaa. They Claim They Donmt Have All The Added Toxin Fillers That These Packs Contain. Who Knows Tho. Who Cares Either. Get Strong

[bpate1977]

Gotta love Animal Pak!

[Carlos C]

I take SuperNutrition Super Blend, some of the best stuff out there IMO.

A little expensive though..........

ON multi
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/men.html

[exub]

I'm taking a kirkland brand but in the near future I will be buying the pak. Does anyone take it in the morning with their first meal?

[HouseOfPainUK]

AST Multi Pro 32x does the job. topped up with Uni-Liver.

[markushunt]

Hands-down: the best is Healthywize-Vital Greens: This is the high-Octane stuff. It's a powder used twice-day. It's synergistice with all other supp's-- can't end up getting too much of one ingrediant-- Actually will make you feel well and energized after the first glass!!!

[7Happy7]

For those of you that are searching for the best multi, I think I have found one that passes all consumer reviews and all third party testing sites and has the correct form of the mineral supplement for the optimum support and delivery. Also it does not have no added BS that a multi shouldn?t have.


BB.com carries it now..
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/source/men.html

I have not tried the product yet, but the price is right, minerals look better than most and it past consumer reports with flying colors.


that has a crazy profile

[RavensFan2k3]

that has a crazy profile

yeah it does...

I just ordered NOW Adam and was wondering if it is time released or not

[Buff_Daddy]

The best multi-vitamin is Living Multi by Garden of Life. If you want Whole Food Nutrition, which is optimal for your body, the opt for the Living Multi. Whole Food vitamins like New Chapter, Megafoods, also make great whole food vitamins, but the Living Multi impresses me more than the other two.

It's important to know that your body works best with foods, not synthetics. Synthetic vitamins can cause more harm than good, but with a whole food vitamin that is impossible. Whole Food vitamins are absorbed and utilized by your body much better than synthetics. If you decide to try it, then you'll know what I'm talking about.

The thing that turned me off Living Multi was the serving size of 9 pills a day. New Chapter have a multi for men which is one a day serving and also from whole food sources... however I noticed most of the amounts max at 50 to 100% RDA...is this enough for someone training? ...even if it is from the best sources.

[mtnmvr]

I have consistantly taken MDR Tabs for over a decade. They mail it to you and the formula gets updated as new discoveries are made. Not loaded with non essential things.

[Alphy]

I have consistantly taken MDR Tabs for over a decade. They mail it to you and the formula gets updated as new discoveries are made. Not loaded with non essential things.

The ones I was looking at looked loaded with unneeded iron.....

[eD8y]

been on animal pak for a month & i do notice the energy & strength gains. its kinda expensive tough so i was thinkin of switchin to GNC mega man sport for a while.

What is the best time to take animal pak ? ... i take it prior to my workout but i get the feeling it would be better taken with breakfast.

[UncleMixer]

been on animal pak for a month & i do notice the energy & strength gains. its kinda expensive tough so i was thinkin of switchin to GNC mega man sport for a while.

What is the best time to take animal pak ? ... i take it prior to my workout but i get the feeling it would be better taken with breakfast.

I always take mine right after breakfast. I have gone through 4 tubs of Animal Pak and about 3 150pill jars of GNC Mega-man sport. The truth is I don't notice much difference between either so i've gone back to GNC Sport. I think I might have felt slightly higher energy levels with Animal Pak but it was not enough to benchmark anything major. My lifting right now continues to go up in the weights using GNC Sport and my body looks and feels fantastic so i'm not stressing over my multi. I think if you're hurting from the price, the switch is worth it.

I do want to mention that I supplement Zinc all on its own for the possible Test boosts it promotes. GNC sport doesn't provide it in the qty I like.

Good luck!

[Monty23]

Is Omega Complex fine?

3 a day? Take them at the same time?

You don't have to be a certain age to buy them right?

[NO HYPE]

vanadium (from vanadyl sulfate)


Vanadium (as vanadyl sulfate) . . . 25 mcg


Vanadium (from Vanadium AAC*) 100 mcg



If the multi in question contains vandium (vanadyl sulfate).... check to see if the dosage are in the micrograms, as higher dosages may be detrimental to health.

It might also be a good idea to check the vanadyl content of any other supplements used, as many contain this substance at chronically-toxic dosages.

Below are a few FACTS about vanadyl/vanadium that many manufacturers are not even aware of....



Vanadyl Sulfate... Why is this toxic garbage in our supplements? (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5728391)




Hepatoxicity

Nephrotoxicity

Renal peroxidation

Central nervous system effects and/or neurological effects.

Depression of aortic cholesterol

Elevated organ vanadium

Phosphorylation/dephosphorylation inhibition

Na+ -K+ -ATPase inhibition

Depression of growth

Reproductive dysfunction



"No more than 1.8 mg/day should be used in people. Some manufacturers promote high dosages (15 to 100 mg) of vanadyl sulfate per day, but studies do not support such dosages, and they may be toxic."


"Target Organs: Kidneys, liver, respiratory system, eyes, skin."


"May cause liver and kidney damage."


"May cause central nervous system effects and/or neurological effects."


"Causes digestive and respiratory tract irritation."


"May cause severe gastrointestinal tract irritation with nausea, vomiting and possible burns."


"May cause greenish-black tongue discoloration due to deposition of vanadium salts. Ingestion of large amounts may cause an increase in blood pressure."


"40% of the patients exhibited gastrointestinal disturbances and 40% exhibited green tongues. After intakes of 4.5 to 18 mg V/day over 6 to 10 weeks, the patients developed green tongues, cramps and diarrhea"


"a decrease in cystine caused by vanadium was presumably the reason for reduced amounts of coenzyme A. Coenzyme A is involved in the synthesis of cholesterol, and therefore may affect the occurrence of atherosclerosis."


"It is retained in highest amounts in the kidney, liver, testes, bone, and spleen."


"Most of the excessive retained (exogenous) vanadium is deposited in bone."


"vanadium accumulation may occur if relatively small excess doses are taken for a prolonged time."



"people who are regularly exposed to high amount of metals, e.g., vanadium contained in certain dietary and musclebuilding regimens, may have increased risk for vascular diseases."

[Alphy]

What sup's are using toxic levels of Vanadium? The amounts listed as being dangerous are MUCH higher than any multi I have seen contains.

Almost anything in that much of an excess is not good for ya.......

[terracotta]

What sup's are using toxic levels of Vanadium? The amounts listed as being dangerous are MUCH higher than any multi I have seen contains.

Almost anything in that much of an excess is not good for ya.......

Mostly preworkout supplements (click on his link).

[BaSsSiKk]

Animal Pak for sure

[oneeightyseven]

I use Alive! It's really good but is somewhat expensive, $40-50 for 180 caps.

[musicsphere]

I've been using Animal Pak for a multivitamin and I am very happy with it. Strength gains have been pretty phenomenal, not sure if it has anything to do with the multi or just a change in my intensity. I like that it doesn't give me the crazy toxic green piss that most multi's do. It seems to be very time released and sustaining throughout the day. Energy level definitely assisted from this multi, recovery time improved. A+

[dcurran15]

i have been using one source pro performance for years. has added energy blend that helps me get going in the morning

[TD62]

This animal pak that i keep seeing in here, can it be stacked or taken with NO and Creatine products?

[TD62]

I lift 3 days a week and run 3 days a week with abs im working on my diet and cuttin back on the drinking I am currently taking Ergopharm GF-Pro protein, Armageddon as a Pre-workout NO and Vassive CE as a post workout creatine. I am looking for a multi-vitamin that will give me a good balance of the good stuff but not over doing it. can someone help me

[naturalguy]

This animal pak that i keep seeing in here, can it be stacked or taken with NO and Creatine products?

Absolutely. The Animal Pak is your foundational everyday supplement. You can/should stack it with other products such as NO and creatine.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/animalpak.html

[kskwerl]

I've been taking animal pak for a while and love it!

[trnhrd]

Opti-men multi.

[DannyStevens27]

Optimum Nutrition's Super Multi Pack, easy choice :)

[T-Pa1n]

I've heard people here say that multi's from the "body-building" companies aren't good for you, there like some low grade "kitchen-sink" minerals, its not as good as pharmaceutical grade ones that cost alot more, is this true?

[trueathlete]

I've heard people here say that multi's from the "body-building" companies aren't good for you, there like some low grade "kitchen-sink" minerals, its not as good as pharmaceutical grade ones that cost alot more, is this true?

Check out Vita X by Hard nutrition, it is very high quality and a reasonable price.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hard/vita.html

[matthewF76]

NOW Foods ADAM is the best multi-vitamin that I have used. Orange Triad is a close second, with MVP coming in at third.

Really depends on your diet, and what you're lacking. I tend to never take the recommend dose because I try to eat a very healthy portion of my vitamins.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

NOW Foods ADAM is the best multi-vitamin that I have used. Orange Triad is a close second, with MVP coming in at third.

Really depends on your diet, and what you're lacking. I tend to never take the recommend dose because I try to eat a very healthy portion of my vitamins.

thanks for your vote. you get much more than just a multi from orange triad though :)

[Suave13]

There's this new multi vitamin pack that just came out called Sni Performance Pak has anyone used it yet?

[Kyle.Lgk]

I use the megamens sports... but seriously, how can you evaluate the value of a multi-vitamin unless you're a chemist?

[Jenkins1997]

How well does GNC mega-man hold up with animal pak?

[hjayss]

been on animal pak for a month & i do notice the energy & strength gains. its kinda expensive tough so i was thinkin of switchin to GNC mega man sport for a while.

What is the best time to take animal pak ? ... i take it prior to my workout but i get the feeling it would be better taken with breakfast.

your on the right multi order it from bestprice nutrition...like 16 bucks if you order it with your other supps it is a great price cheaper than mega man and really you want something that is working though...

[7digits]

i like Animal Pak. i take it in the morning with my protien shake.

[AronP24]

just started Opti-Men this week...the profile looks fantastic and I am pleased so far ....very interested to see how the virility complex works in it too :D

[kizm0]

Animal Pak.

The best multi-vitamin supplement known to man.

[cantpackonmuscle]

If you had to pick just ONE multi-vitamin/mineral product, what would be the best one?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take multi-vitamins, if you should take multi-vitamins, or why some multi-vitamins are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite multi-vitamin product and give your detailed reason.)

From what I have used:
Nature Made Multi-Daily for price- 300 tablets for like $10
GNC Mega Men for quality- Month Supply for around $30
GNC Mega Men sport if your active

GNC only makes quality products, so while it may not be the best, it is going to work. The Mega Men formula has every necessary vitamin/mineral that I can think of and others to help your body absorb them better. One thing to watch out for with a daily vitamin is the sources of them. Some brands make supplements with the cheapest materials available, so while you may be getting 100% of so and so, that doesnt meant your body will be able to absorb it all. I like the GNC brand best because all of its nutrients come from all natural sources that your body can absorb the best.
I take Mega Men Sport which helps with protein synthesis, energy production, carbohydrate metabolism and has antioxidant protection according to the bottle.

[lthlsvt]

A friend of mine who is a very dedicated body builder, suggested to me GNC mega men sport over the animal pak. He said that if you look at both's ingredients you are getting more then what universal offers. Not only are you getting more, you are taking fewer pills. Is there any truth to this, or is it just personal preference? They are both around the same price so. Natural guy I would highly value your opinion on this, cause I have used universal products before and love the results. Just looking for some more detailed info on which one is better overall.

[lewkelly]

I like Opti-Men

[Alphy]

A friend of mine who is a very dedicated body builder, suggested to me GNC mega men sport over the animal pak. He said that if you look at both's ingredients you are getting more then what universal offers. Not only are you getting more, you are taking fewer pills. Is there any truth to this, or is it just personal preference? They are both around the same price so. Natural guy I would highly value your opinion on this, cause I have used universal products before and love the results. Just looking for some more detailed info on which one is better overall.

Well.....why dont ya just look at the labels and see for yourself?

[Bone32]

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