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ElderJefferson
08-20-2006, 08:59 AM
Alright, let me stir the pot a little bit. Here's a list of some top MultiVitamin products and how they compare to each other as far as vitamin/mineral content, but first here's the criteria I used:

I assigned a point for every Necessary Vitamin/Mineral contained within the product, two points if it meets the RDA (yeah, I know, we're all bodybuilders and we need more than the RDA - but you have to have a system). I also have another category called Other Vitamin/Mineral, using the same point system (1 for presence, 2 if meets RDA). Here's the list of vitamins and minerals for each category:

Necessary Vitamins - A (preferably beta-carotene), B1 (thiamin), B2 (riboflavin), B3 (niacin), B12, C, D, E

Necessary Minerals - Copper, Chromium, Magnesium, Selenium, Zinc

Other Vitamins - B5 (p acid), B6, Folic Acid, H (biotin), K

Other Minerals - Boron (< 20 mg), Calcium, Chlorine, Fluoride, Iodine, Manganese, Molybdenum, Nickel, Phosphorus, Potassium, Sodium, Sulfur, Vanadium

Below are the products and their per serving totals (Product Name - Necessary Vitamin/Mineral score - Other Vitamin/Mineral score - Notes):

AST Multi Pro 32X - 24 - 23 - contains double the RDA of iron and 4x the maximum dose of A

Life Extension Mix - 24 - 16

MHP Activite Sport 25 - 19

NOW Adam - 24 - 20 (2x max dose of A)

Optimum Opti Men - 25 - 16 (exceeds max dose of A)

Universal Animal Pak - 22 - 14 (based on 11 pills. 23 - 16 for 22 pills; exceeds max dose of A)

As far as which multi has the greatest amount of vitamins/minerals, that award would go to Life Extension Mix as it really loaded up (you have to take 9 tablets a day, though). As far as which multi provided the least amount, that would be Multi Pro 32X, which looks to be the clear victor, but the Iron and Vitamin A content scared me away. I didn't include price in the criteria since it can vary so much, but that would obviously be an important component when making a decision.

Androgenic
08-20-2006, 01:24 PM
Life Extension and AOR are the two best companies in the industry as far as research, quality control, and doing self-funded studies. Excellent companies. The life extension mix can be had with/without copper and iron.

Ledge
08-21-2006, 04:28 AM
"Other Vitamins - B5 (p acid), B6, Folic Acid, H (biotin), K"

I would class Folic Acid as a Necessary Vitamin. 800mcg a day, a must.

ElderJefferson
08-21-2006, 05:30 AM
"Other Vitamins - B5 (p acid), B6, Folic Acid, H (biotin), K"

I would class Folic Acid as a Necessary Vitamin. 800mcg a day, a must.
That would have been my impression as well, but more sites stated it as "unnecessary" rather than necessary. I believe this may stem from two reasons:

1) The assumption that your Folic Acid is coming from some place else,
2) Half the stuff on the Internet is crap, either because the author really doesn't know what he/she is talking about, or the experts just can't agree on what is right.

BIGDUDE646
08-22-2006, 11:11 AM
I May Not Be A Multivitamin Expert But I Just Take The Regular Gnc Brand I Mean Does It Really Matter. If U Eat Clean 7-8 Times A Day Im Guessing You Are Getting Those Vitamins Naturally Anyways!!!

IcyHotNate
08-22-2006, 11:29 AM
I May Not Be A Multivitamin Expert But I Just Take The Regular Gnc Brand I Mean Does It Really Matter. If U Eat Clean 7-8 Times A Day Im Guessing You Are Getting Those Vitamins Naturally Anyways!!!

Yes it does matter, GNC is good, they are pharmacutical grade multis. The ULTRA MEGA Green is a whole food based, and that one is good. Centrum, and Kirkland Signature are both synthetic vitamins. It does matter what brand. And I figure that they are most likely helping my body out a little bit, and giving me a bit more muscle growth ;)

RavensFan2k3
08-22-2006, 11:59 AM
I take the GNC Mega Mens Sports. Which is better between that one and the regular GNC Mega Mens? Which is the best out of all the GNC multivitamins?

Ledge
08-23-2006, 05:06 AM
I May Not Be A Multivitamin Expert But I Just Take The Regular Gnc Brand I Mean Does It Really Matter. If U Eat Clean 7-8 Times A Day Im Guessing You Are Getting Those Vitamins Naturally Anyways!!!

Incorrect. Whatever you eat/drink, you will not get/reach your required intake of the essential vitamins/minerals. A multi vitamin supplement + fish oil caps = an absolute must. The vitamins of course will never replace the clean food, its just the important supplement.

EMISGOD
08-23-2006, 06:29 PM
I like the GNC Ultra Mega Green without Iron, personally. I'm positive there are better multis out there, but this one is an easy winner in terms of consistency, potency and cost.

The Ultra Green liquid made me sick, though, had to throw it out and the Ultra Mega Gold and Mega Men's lines are both decent, but nowhere near the Ultra Mega Green...

I should also add that I daily supplement the Ultra Mega Green with additional C, Q-10, B, Calcium, D and E. I tend to get these from GNC also, not from any great love of the store, but mainly from convenience and habit (friend of mine used to manage the store).

lgolden2005
08-24-2006, 06:31 AM
I also used GNC mega men for about 10 years and now I have switch to AST Science multi and I notice a big difference in my energy levels.

mastergrim8
08-28-2006, 08:21 AM
I'm taking that crap Centrum right now, as soon as i finish, I'll switch to either Now ADAM or AST Multi Pro 32x.

PoonTang
08-30-2006, 12:48 PM
Multi Pro 32x by AST great value also and everything you need in a vit....

bouwnt
08-30-2006, 09:58 PM
What about Natrol?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/natrol/favorite.html

Androgenic? :)

Ledge
08-31-2006, 03:16 AM
Multi Pro 32x by AST great value also and everything you need in a vit....

unfortunately the AST multi Pros contain iron, which certainly you can do without.

severesoldier
08-31-2006, 05:35 AM
The only multi ive used for bodybuilding is Animal Pak so I have to go with that for now.

Aussiesurfy
08-31-2006, 05:51 AM
Reflex Nexgen:
# High quality, potent vitamin, chelated, mineral (more easily absorbed by the body), herbal and pro-biotic complex.
# Also contains extensive anti-oxidants, herbal extracts and the patented bio-availability enhancer Bioperine, which increases absorption.
# Best defence for overall health which guarantees the body is supplied with all the vitamins and minerals you need each day

ElderJefferson
08-31-2006, 07:39 AM
Reflex Nexgen:
# High quality, potent vitamin, chelated, mineral (more easily absorbed by the body), herbal and pro-biotic complex.
# Also contains extensive anti-oxidants, herbal extracts and the patented bio-availability enhancer Bioperine, which increases absorption.
# Best defence for overall health which guarantees the body is supplied with all the vitamins and minerals you need each day

As far as vitamin and mineral content is concerned, this multi pales in comparison to other leading brands. It lacks the RDA for Vitamin A, an essential vitamin for the body (which is surprising, since it's the only multi that I have analyzed to date which didn't meet this requirement). It doesn't supply a lot of other vitamins or minerals, and on top of that, it contains 9 mg of iron. That's not too much, but any iron is a red flag in my book. I have no idea about the other stuff (potency, chelated, anti-oxidants, incorrect guarantee on the vitamin/mineral provisions), but you may want to consider another brand (NOW Adam, Multi Pro 32X, and MHP Activite Sport seem to have the best vitamin/mineral content).

Aussiesurfy
08-31-2006, 10:05 PM
As far as vitamin and mineral content is concerned, this multi pales in comparison to other leading brands. It lacks the RDA for Vitamin A, an essential vitamin for the body (which is surprising, since it's the only multi that I have analyzed to date which didn't meet this requirement). It doesn't supply a lot of other vitamins or minerals, and on top of that, it contains 9 mg of iron. That's not too much, but any iron is a red flag in my book. I have no idea about the other stuff (potency, chelated, anti-oxidants, incorrect guarantee on the vitamin/mineral provisions), but you may want to consider another brand (NOW Adam, Multi Pro 32X, and MHP Activite Sport seem to have the best vitamin/mineral content).

Yer ElderJefferson true. Although I have tried the NOW Adam and I did find that pretty good as well. But as for the other 2 I haven't unfortunately :(

kigol
09-02-2006, 01:58 PM
i just use the generic multi's and 3-6-9's they have a k-mart. :)

TheTruth39
09-02-2006, 03:30 PM
Ive been taking Activite or some time now with 3 6 9's its really like it its not as harsh as multi pro, and theres not a bigillion pills to take. Its kind of expensive as one bottle is only a 30 day supply however its a pretty good vitamin hands down.

Hi Im Bobby
09-02-2006, 06:24 PM
my vote is animal pak.. pretty good stuff

i've tried others too, but still can't seem to find better.

mastergrim8
09-03-2006, 02:46 PM
Well which one is recommended for a person that has a tight budget?

ElderJefferson
09-05-2006, 06:02 AM
Well which one is recommended for a person that has a tight budget?

In my experience, the best bang for your buck is NOW Adams, but I buy all my supps over the net. Maybe you can grab a deal on another brand for less, because there isn't a lot of differences among the good multis.

snuffed
09-06-2006, 08:22 AM
Just putting my vote in for Animal Pak....

AphtaLyfe
09-06-2006, 12:20 PM
Well which one is recommended for a person that has a tight budget?

NOW Adam would be the best if you're on a budget.
Animal-Pak if you're not.

-Good Luck

Kamijaza
09-08-2006, 10:03 AM
What about Vitamin Shoppe's Ultimate Man. Its great stuff, all natural. High potency. and its sustained release. Anyone use that one?

ElderJefferson
09-08-2006, 11:06 AM
What about Vitamin Shoppe's Ultimate Man. Its great stuff, all natural. High potency. and its sustained release. Anyone use that one?

It's not too bad when it comes to your vitamin and mineral needs (website didn't specify the source of the vitamins - beta carotene, for example), but it lacks a lot of minerals found in the other brands. Depending on the cost, I would prefer to stick to one of the other bigs.

grapemaster
09-10-2006, 12:50 AM
will the ginseng and ginkgo in the now adam keep you up if taken at night??

Evedawg14
09-10-2006, 04:35 AM
Gotta love all the marketing ploys. Sucks ya right in.

ElderJefferson
09-10-2006, 07:58 AM
will the ginseng and ginkgo in the now adam keep you up if taken at night??

I've been taking them for over a month, three times a day like clockwork, and I've had no problems sleeping. I even nap during the day on weekends w/o any problems. The amount they use isn't a lot, so your benefits are minimal, along with any hyperactive side effects.

bouwnt
09-10-2006, 10:07 AM
NOW Adam works great for me.

ocu1ar
09-10-2006, 11:46 AM
Anyone have an opinion on Nature's Plus Source of Life vitamin? I'm curious to hear what some of you vitamin guru's have to say about it.
http://www.naturesplus.com/products/category.asp?cryteria=category&category=15&productNumber=3056

grapemaster
09-10-2006, 12:20 PM
I've been taking them for over a month, three times a day like clockwork, and I've had no problems sleeping. I even nap during the day on weekends w/o any problems. The amount they use isn't a lot, so your benefits are minimal, along with any hyperactive side effects.
alright cool was wondering about that, i've been on a run of centrum lately just b/c ran out of other stuff and need to switch it up, thanks. i already take in way too much iron probably and need to drop it from my multi.

MERTON
09-10-2006, 02:40 PM
which is better? the NOW! adam or the ISS super vitamin pak? are paks better than single or double pills? is the adam just two of the same pill or do you take two different pills to get different nutrients?

ElderJefferson
09-11-2006, 08:37 AM
which is better? the NOW! adam or the ISS super vitamin pak? are paks better than single or double pills? is the adam just two of the same pill or do you take two different pills to get different nutrients?

I'm not even going to touch the 'which one is better' question, because I think it's safe to say that each one of us has different needs. That, plus no one can agree on anything. One thing I can say about them is that they supply all of your vitamin needs - and that's about all they supply. They are very low in minerals, strangely enough. One of the lowest I've seen so far. Plus they contain 15mg of Iron, a vitamin sin in my mind. I'd personally go with one of the other leading brands.

As far as the NOW Adams, all the capsules (I take the VCaps) are the same - you just take three a day. They are by far the easiest multi I have ever taken (the first time I took it I actually swallowed it by accident). I haven't seen the tablets, so I'm not sure about those.

ElderJefferson
09-11-2006, 08:52 AM
Anyone have an opinion on Nature's Plus Source of Life vitamin? I'm curious to hear what some of you vitamin guru's have to say about it.
http://www.naturesplus.com/products/category.asp?cryteria=category&category=15&productNumber=3056

See my response to the ISS Super Vitamin Pak above, as these multis are very similar - high in vitamins and low in minerals. Plus it contains a lot of iron (18mg).

ElderJefferson
09-11-2006, 08:54 AM
Anyone have an opinion on Nature's Plus Source of Life vitamin? I'm curious to hear what some of you vitamin guru's have to say about it.
http://www.naturesplus.com/products/category.asp?cryteria=category&category=15&productNumber=3056

And in no way, shape, or form should I ever be misconstrued as a guru. I'm only listing the vitamin and mineral contents of each multi, and my remarks should be sidestepped in favor of a certified nutritionist.

Tj40ls
09-11-2006, 09:53 PM
Animal Paks is great but they are expensive
MHP makes a good sports multi still kind of expensive
I take Gnc MegaMen Sport

boyscouT
09-11-2006, 10:48 PM
I like and currently use NOW ADAM (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/adam.html). I plan on trying NOW Vit-Min (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/vit.html) in the future as well.

The Brotherhood
09-11-2006, 11:01 PM
Meh - i dont get all the replies as to "which is best".

How do YOU know which is best? ITs not like you can "feel" the difference like you can with other supplements - you cant "feel" the effectiveness.

Ive tried AnimalPak, ASt Multi-PRo 32x, and im currently using Twinlabs One-a-Day Iron Free.

Twinlabs has been the cheapest so far, and no yellow piss, so im sticking to it.

Otis_Redding
09-17-2006, 08:13 PM
I've been taking a multi for 4-5 yrs now. Many different brands over the yrs including GNC Mega Men, a few different brands of liquid vitamins, Centrum, One A Day, and recently, Now Adam Multi.

I always told myself that I felt better and stronger because I was taking a multi. The funny thing is, I ran out of my Adam Multi last week and am waiting on a new shipment. I cannot, for the life of me, tell the difference. I'm starting to believe in the "marketing" theory. Anyone else feel the same way? I also take a EFA supplement. I will continue with that because I feel better with it....or do I? I don't freakin know for sure anymore. When my multi arrives, I'm gonna take it because its there, but I will always have that question in the back of my mind, of the effectiveness of the whole thing.


Edit: I guess my vote is for NOW Adam Multi?

ElderJefferson
09-18-2006, 05:40 AM
I've been taking a multi for 4-5 yrs now. Many different brands over the yrs including GNC Mega Men, a few different brands of liquid vitamins, Centrum, One A Day, and recently, Now Adam Multi.

I always told myself that I felt better and stronger because I was taking a multi. The funny thing is, I ran out of my Adam Multi last week and am waiting on a new shipment. I cannot, for the life of me, tell the difference. I'm starting to believe in the "marketing" theory. Anyone else feel the same way? I also take a EFA supplement. I will continue with that because I feel better with it....or do I? I don't freakin know for sure anymore. When my multi arrives, I'm gonna take it because its there, but I will always have that question in the back of my mind, of the effectiveness of the whole thing.


Edit: I guess my vote is for NOW Adam Multi?

Not everything beneficial to your body will give you a head rush. In other words, all because you can't feel it, doesn't mean it's not doing what it was designed to do, which in the case of multivitamins, is to supply your body with essential "stuff" (vitamins and minerals). Deficiencies in these, as I am told, will hinder your gains and inhibit basic bodily functions, resulting in poor overall health and wellbeing. None of these symptoms will show over the course of a week or two, but will be plain to see in the longrun. You could work around not having your multis by eating well balanced meals until your shipment arrives.

user903890348904
09-18-2006, 07:44 AM
you can find animal for like 15 bucks if u know where... its cheap then :D

chewybjj
09-18-2006, 07:52 AM
I use centrum. Its cheap and I mean it gets vitamins into my body.

benjamin88
09-18-2006, 07:58 AM
I've been taking a multi for 4-5 yrs now. Many different brands over the yrs including GNC Mega Men, a few different brands of liquid vitamins, Centrum, One A Day, and recently, Now Adam Multi.

I always told myself that I felt better and stronger because I was taking a multi. The funny thing is, I ran out of my Adam Multi last week and am waiting on a new shipment. I cannot, for the life of me, tell the difference. I'm starting to believe in the "marketing" theory. Anyone else feel the same way? I also take a EFA supplement. I will continue with that because I feel better with it....or do I? I don't freakin know for sure anymore. When my multi arrives, I'm gonna take it because its there, but I will always have that question in the back of my mind, of the effectiveness of the whole thing.


Edit: I guess my vote is for NOW Adam Multi?

now adam is ****, the zma in it is usual because it also has calcium, and some people dont want to supplement with saw plamento, like myself, waste of money

ElderJefferson
09-18-2006, 12:10 PM
now adam is ****, the zma in it is usual because it also has calcium, and some people dont want to supplement with saw plamento, like myself, waste of money

How did you come to this conclusion, given the fact that Adam supplies more vitamins and minerals (essential and non-essential) than any other leading brand except for Multi Pro 32x and Activite Sport (much more than the Pak, even), and it's one of the cheaper multis around? Just curious as to whether you knew something off hand about them or you were just spouting street poetry.

WMD
09-19-2006, 03:58 PM
Are either Life Extention Mix or Ortho-Core considered whole food multi's???

Mickfootie
09-19-2006, 07:05 PM
Solgar vm75 are the best vitamin/mineral formula i have used.

jwright2
09-19-2006, 07:29 PM
I've been taking a multi for 4-5 yrs now. Many different brands over the yrs including GNC Mega Men, a few different brands of liquid vitamins, Centrum, One A Day, and recently, Now Adam Multi.

I always told myself that I felt better and stronger because I was taking a multi. The funny thing is, I ran out of my Adam Multi last week and am waiting on a new shipment. I cannot, for the life of me, tell the difference. I'm starting to believe in the "marketing" theory. Anyone else feel the same way? I also take a EFA supplement. I will continue with that because I feel better with it....or do I? I don't freakin know for sure anymore. When my multi arrives, I'm gonna take it because its there, but I will always have that question in the back of my mind, of the effectiveness of the whole thing.


Edit: I guess my vote is for NOW Adam Multi?

I was taking NOW Adam Multi also and never got sick while taking it. When I ran out a fewmonths back, I didnt order another bottle. I've gotten sick (cold/fever) twice since then so I'm thinking it was helping. Needless to say, I'm ordering another bottle this week.

ElderJefferson
09-20-2006, 05:42 AM
Solgar vm75 are the best vitamin/mineral formula i have used.

Solgar provides 100% of your necessary vitamins, but pretty much falls flat on its face after that (not a lot of essential minerals or other vitamins present). I suspected as much when I noticed it was a "one a day" vitamin - a red flag in my book (because it's extremely difficult to pack all your needs into one "swallowable" pill). It also contains a small amount (1.3 mg) of iron. This is neither an endorsement nor a slam - just an observation.

ThaChach
09-20-2006, 10:40 AM
My Top two would have to be

1 - Universal Animal Paks
2 - GNC ultra mega men's sport

Animal takes the one spot only because it offers slightly more nutrients to your body but both are great multi supplements, however the GNC multi's are two pills compared to 11 with the Pak.

ScottC
09-21-2006, 03:40 AM
Currently, I am taking GNC Mega Mens Sport.

Ledge
09-21-2006, 04:29 AM
Currently, I am taking GNC Mega Mens Sport.

it looks quite a solid product, a bit light on the crucial Vitamin D though. (need 400iu) Folic intake should be 800mcg as well per day. i guess u could take 3 caps a day in that case.

ScottC
09-21-2006, 11:03 AM
it looks quite a solid product, a bit light on the crucial Vitamin D though. (need 400iu) Folic intake should be 800mcg as well per day. i guess u could take 3 caps a day in that case.
Thanks for the info. Being new to taking vitamins on a regular basis, I appreciate all the information I can get.

Ledge
09-22-2006, 07:28 AM
Thanks for the info. Being new to taking vitamins on a regular basis, I appreciate all the information I can get.

you are most welcome.
In addition to the Now Adams, i take a wild fish oil, B complex, and a vitamin C.
Now Adams just dont cover the bases on the Vitamin C requirements. Although folate is a part of the Vitamin B group, you still need B6 and B12 supplementation.

7:360
09-22-2006, 07:53 AM
Do any of the multivitamins listed on here have any form of guaranteed absorption and potency?

Just a thought..I mean, how do you really know if you're absorbing what you're ingesting.

One thing I never got about alot of multi's is that they're quick to slap on 1000% of the DV for something like say...vitamin C, but I have yet to come across a multi that contains anything more than 50% of the Biotin DV.

What's up with that? =/

ElderJefferson
09-22-2006, 07:54 AM
you are most welcome.
In addition to the Now Adams, i take a wild fish oil, B complex, and a vitamin C.
Now Adams just dont cover the bases on the Vitamin C requirements. Although folate is a part of the Vitamin B group, you still need B6 and B12 supplementation.

The RDA of Vitamin C is a minimum of 90 mg (not to exceed 2000 mg), and Adams supply 350 mg per day, well above the RDA. Granted, their not in league with the Pak (5000 mg/day, far exceeding your recommended max doseage), but it's more than sufficient. The only "essential" vitamin and/or mineral that the Adams do not hit the RDA is Copper (.5 mg supplied against the recommended 2 mg) - and for the money, I'd say that's not bad at all.

ElderJefferson
09-22-2006, 07:58 AM
you are most welcome.
In addition to the Now Adams, i take a wild fish oil, B complex, and a vitamin C.
Now Adams just dont cover the bases on the Vitamin C requirements. Although folate is a part of the Vitamin B group, you still need B6 and B12 supplementation.

Adams also supply the most B12 of any of the major vitamins I've researched (except for Life Extension Mix, which supplies an incredible amount), and also contains over 20 times the RDA of Vitamin B6. I was just curious as to why you would supplement additional C and B with the Adams?

Ledge
09-22-2006, 08:13 AM
Adams also supply the most B12 of any of the major vitamins I've researched (except for Life Extension Mix, which supplies an incredible amount), and also contains over 20 times the RDA of Vitamin B6. I was just curious as to why you would supplement additional C and B with the Adams?

In the case of Vitamin C... 350mg of Vitamin C a day is not enough. 1200-1500mg of Vitamin C would be about right in my opinion. And yeah, ive been thinking for a while now, that im covered on the B group with the Adams, so i might finish up on the B Complex.

ElderJefferson
09-22-2006, 08:21 AM
In the case of Vitamin C... 350mg of Vitamin C a day is not enough. 1200-1500mg of Vitamin C would be about right in my opinion. With the B complex its just my personal choice to take on more.

That's cool. If C and B is what you're after, you may want to look into Life Extension Mix, as they dish out a buttload of the stuff. You have to down 9 tablets a day, though, and they don't supply as much "stuff" as the Adams, but they're excellent on C and B.

PainfulPleasure
09-22-2006, 11:28 AM
anyone who uses anything other than a generic multivitamin is an idiot.

Ledge
09-23-2006, 04:40 AM
"anyone who uses anything other than a generic multivitamin is an idiot."

such as fish oil? LOL
care to elaborate on what u just said.. ?

im assuming your taking a "generic" multi... ill bet my left nuT it wont have near enough Vitamin C that you need each day .... amongst other things.

ScottC
09-23-2006, 06:37 AM
In addition to the Now Adams, i take a wild fish oil, B complex, and a vitamin C.
Now Adams just dont cover the bases on the Vitamin C requirements. Although folate is a part of the Vitamin B group, you still need B6 and B12 supplementation.
I am also taking GNC Fish Body Oils, 1000mg. I probably need more vitamin C, but would like to get them from citrus fruit, if I don't need to eat 5 oranges a day to do so. I will check on the vitamin B.

RavensFan2k3
09-23-2006, 08:47 AM
Currently, I am taking GNC Mega Mens Sport.
Whats better...GNC Mega Men's Sports(which is what I take) and the regular GNC Mega Mens? Or even the Solotron or Ultra Mega Mens?

7:360
09-23-2006, 09:23 AM
Whats better...GNC Mega Men's Sports(which is what I take) and the regular GNC Mega Mens? Or even the Solotron or Ultra Mega Mens?
As I recall, to the best of my knowledge, there's never really been any clinical studies proving the GNC brand multivitamin's efficiency or potency. They might claim it on the bottle but all you can do is get a public's opinion on the product and go by word of mouth. =/

I personally don't use GNC or any of the products sold there.

bravo03_old
09-23-2006, 09:42 AM
As I recall, to the best of my knowledge, there's never really been any clinical studies proving the GNC brand multivitamin's efficiency or potency. They might claim it on the bottle but all you can do is get a public's opinion on the product and go by word of mouth. =/

I personally don't use GNC or any of the products sold there.

GNC Ultra Mega Gold is one of the best multi vitamins out there, tons of people will back me up on this, you can get a 3 months supply for $35 or for 28 with the purchase of a gold card, The sport version has BCAA and more B complex vitamins, BCAAs help with recovery and B vitamins product energy and breakdown food, i know this because i work at GNC.

7:360
09-23-2006, 10:19 AM
Does GNC have any clinical studies on it to back up all those statements? I'm just curious, I've worked @ GNC also by the way, it's nice to kind of meet someone that works there. :)

mooseontheloose
09-23-2006, 10:53 AM
I got some Centrum vitamins... they seem pretty decent. Anyone know anything about them?

bravo03_old
09-23-2006, 10:54 AM
Does GNC have any clinical studies on it to back up all those statements? I'm just curious, I've worked @ GNC also by the way, it's nice to kind of meet someone that works there. :)

yes they do have studies to back it up.

bravo03_old
09-23-2006, 10:55 AM
I got some Centrum vitamins... they seem pretty decent. Anyone know anything about them?

Centrum is one of the worst multi vitamins you can get, i highly recommend you try GNC Ultra Mega Gold or NOW ADAM.

RavensFan2k3
09-23-2006, 11:16 AM
Centrum is one of the worst multi vitamins you can get, i highly recommend you try GNC Ultra Mega Gold or NOW ADAM.
Hey man...so out of all the GNC multivitamins, GNC Ultra Mega Men's Gold Multivitamin(without Iron) is the best? I've been taking GNC Mega Men's Sports and I never saw any Ultra Mega Men's Gold sports version before. I'm 17 years old if that makes a difference...What do you think about the Solotron multivitamins? Or the Preventron

bravo03_old
09-23-2006, 11:42 AM
Hey man...so out of all the GNC multivitamins, GNC Ultra Mega Men's Gold Multivitamin(without Iron) is the best? I've been taking GNC Mega Men's Sports and I never saw any Ultra Mega Men's Gold sports version before. I'm 17 years old if that makes a difference...What do you think about the Solotron multivitamins? Or the Preventron

Solotron and Preventron i DONT recommend, lower quality Multi-Vitamins, i think you should try Ultra Mega Men Gold w/o Iron, like i said, great price and lasts you 3 whole months, just two caps a day, it has digestive enzymes to break down the carbs,protein and fat for the right place to be in your body, lots of B complex for energy and carb production, Extra Antioxidants.

ScottC
09-23-2006, 12:41 PM
i think you should try Ultra Mega Men Gold w/o Iron, like i said, great price and lasts you 3 whole months, just two caps a day, it has digestive enzymes to break down the carbs,protein and fat for the right place to be in your body, lots of B complex for energy and carb production, Extra Antioxidants.

..."The sport version has BCAA and more B complex vitamins, BCAAs help with recovery and B vitamins product energy and breakdown food"...

Since you have good things to say about the Sport version, why don't you recommend it over the 'basic' Ultra Mega Men Gold?

In another post, You also suggested NOW Adam, what are your views about AST Multi-Pro 32X? Of the three, take out the price consideration, what do you recommend?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am learning about vitamins, supplements, etc.

7:360
09-23-2006, 12:51 PM
yes they do have studies to back it up.
Can I have a link to the published studies they have?

bravo03_old
09-23-2006, 01:07 PM
Since you have good things to say about the Sport version, why don't you recommend it over the 'basic' Ultra Mega Men Gold?

In another post, You also suggested NOW Adam, what are your views about AST Multi-Pro 32X? Of the three, take out the price consideration, what do you recommend?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am learning about vitamins, supplements, etc.

pm me next time scoot c

GNC is the bang for your buck.

bravo03_old
09-23-2006, 01:08 PM
Can I have a link to the published studies they have?

yes.

7:360
09-23-2006, 03:29 PM
yes.
Well? Where they @

djbaumsquad
09-23-2006, 05:11 PM
Do any of the multivitamins listed on here have any form of guaranteed absorption and potency?

Just a thought..I mean, how do you really know if you're absorbing what you're ingesting.

One thing I never got about alot of multi's is that they're quick to slap on 1000% of the DV for something like say...vitamin C, but I have yet to come across a multi that contains anything more than 50% of the Biotin DV.

What's up with that? =/
I am looking at my journal (not for the public) from the Doctors office I work at that compares 500 different vitamin and mineral products and all the ones you listed are crap. They all got rated under 50% absorbed and 50% in quality if what raw materials are in there, Not to mention I doubt they have any publsihed studies to show that the multiple does what it is supposed to do or any published studies in general for that matter. I am not going to go any further with this thread as I know poeple will have a different opinion but I am going by facts. Good day.

rabidrabbit2727
09-23-2006, 07:09 PM
I am looking at my journal (not for the public) from the Doctors office I work at that compares 500 different vitamin and mineral products and all the ones you listed are crap. They all got rated under 50% absorbed and 50% in quality if what raw materials are in there, Not to mention I doubt they have any publsihed studies to show that the multiple does what it is supposed to do or any published studies in general for that matter. I am not going to go any further with this thread as I know poeple will have a different opinion but I am going by facts. Good day.

Yeah, I've got some super-secret documents that no one else can see as well. They say that creatine isn't even real. Supplement companies just made it up. I know you guys are prolly not gonna agree, but I'm going by facts. Sorry.

Otis_Redding
09-23-2006, 07:19 PM
I have documents that say alien anal probing is real. But what's even more interesting is, the aliens worry about our unhealthy diets and are only trying to clean out our colons. Aliens have love for us.

djbaumsquad
09-24-2006, 12:51 AM
Both are you are not so bright. In fact you both are morons. First of all itt is not super secret. Second it is just not sold to people in the store. You can look at it if you come to my office. If you guys are going to be dumb fu*cks than take your jokes some where else. We are here helping people out in regareds to multivitamins and minerals.

Ledge
09-24-2006, 01:18 AM
"In another post, You also suggested NOW Adam, what are your views about AST Multi-Pro 32X? Of the three, take out the price consideration, what do you recommend?"

The AST is a solid multi, but i prefer the NOW Adam without the Iron. The AST multis also fall way short on the selenium.

ScottC
09-24-2006, 03:03 AM
"In another post, You also suggested NOW Adam, what are your views about AST Multi-Pro 32X? Of the three, take out the price consideration, what do you recommend?"

The AST is a solid multi, but i prefer the NOW Adam without the Iron. The AST multis also fall way short on the selenium.
Thanks. There is a big difference on the selenium. I am comparing them now...with the help of a couple extra browsers open.

ElderJefferson
09-24-2006, 07:34 AM
"In another post, You also suggested NOW Adam, what are your views about AST Multi-Pro 32X? Of the three, take out the price consideration, what do you recommend?"

The AST is a solid multi, but i prefer the NOW Adam without the Iron. The AST multis also fall way short on the selenium.

The two are very similar/comparable, but I prefer the Adams because they do not contain iron (AST dumps in 36 mg, twice the recommended RDA). If iron's not an issue for you (not sure why it wouldn't be) then I would go with the AST. Sure, it's low on Selenium, but Adam's are low on copper. Pick your poison.

7:360
09-24-2006, 07:43 AM
I'm still interested in seeing those published studies bravo, if you have the time to post them =)

One thing I never understood is that if GNC's products are so good, why do they sell other company's products?

It's funny because I was just talking to a GNC manager this morning and he mentioned how GNC was going to go public so they can get bought out because they weren't doing so good. lol

bravo03_old
09-24-2006, 07:46 AM
I'm still interested in seeing those published studies bravo, if you have the time to post them =)

One thing I never understood is that if GNC's products are so good, why do they sell other company's products?

they pay GNC to sell there stuff, they educate us on how the supplement works and we than turn it over to the customers for there purpose.

Otis_Redding
09-24-2006, 08:58 AM
Both are you are not so bright. In fact you both are morons. First of all itt is not super secret. Second it is just not sold to people in the store. You can look at it if you come to my office. If you guys are going to be dumb fu*cks than take your jokes some where else. We are here helping people out in regareds to multivitamins and minerals.

How are you helping anyone out with heresay? I didn't know being vague and touting secret squirell material not available for the general public was "helping people out".

7:360
09-24-2006, 12:59 PM
Yeah I'm not exactly understanding djbaumsquad's post but if I'm not mistaken, he might be referring to Physician's notes or maybe material that is not released to the general public, just those in the medical field.

And I'm still waiting on that link for GNC's studies..lol oh that's right.

They don't have any. ;)

bravo03_old
09-24-2006, 04:09 PM
Yeah I'm not exactly understanding djbaumsquad's post but if I'm not mistaken, he might be referring to Physician's notes or maybe material that is not released to the general public, just those in the medical field.

And I'm still waiting on that link for GNC's studies..lol oh that's right.

They don't have any. ;)

what multi-vitamin actually post their studies? huh ya stfu

djbaumsquad
09-24-2006, 05:42 PM
they pay GNC to sell there stuff, they educate us on how the supplement works and we than turn it over to the customers for there purpose.
Again if GNC had great products there products woudl sell there for does not need some 3rd party company to pay them.

djbaumsquad
09-24-2006, 05:52 PM
what multi-vitamin actually post their studies? huh ya stfu
Multi-vitamins don't post studies, but the company I get mine from have studies that are published in peer review medical journals in regards to there products i.e there vitamins/minerals.
I also herd that GNC is going to go public with in a year or so.

Also yes to Danny, It is for Doctors and its part of the PDR (Physicans Desk Reference) this is so that doctors can know what drug interactions vitamins and minerals have with drugs like vitaman K as a example or any blood thinning supplement will interact with coumadin.

Also GNC does not have studies. I just went to one today and asked the owner of the store. I know people that used to work at GNC stating there products suck. Not to mention if you are not satisfied with there products after like 3 times they said you can't return the product. If a product works they should not have that kind of issue.
I quote from a buddie that worked there

" just quit my job at GNC and all I can say is be careful what you buy there. Their weight gainer sucks! You spend $29 plus for it and you only get 5 servings. Another thing is, is that we all work off of commission, but only on certain products, and any of pro performance weight gainers such as 1850 or 2200 are all commission products.
I worked there for a year and a half and I used just about everything you can think of. And even though most if not all of the immediate weight you gain is water. Protein powders though we sell sucked no one liked, I've found, don't add very much mass to you like food will, but it does keep your body in a positive nitrogen balance (without nitrogen you wont grow).

Anyway, the best advice I can give is to stick to basic nutrition and avoid any outrageous claims like 10 pounds in a month. And those androstenedoine companies are selling nothing but androgens which will give you some energy but really wont give you very much in the way of muscle gains. I would never use the products we sold even with the price we got. I personally bought from the internet from some friends of mine."

Danzavier
09-24-2006, 07:07 PM
I think GNC Mega Men Sport Multi's are the best in my opinion even tho everyone is talking about the GNC company and there plans instead of Multis

bravo03_old
09-24-2006, 07:33 PM
I think GNC Mega Men Sport Multi's are the best in my opinion even tho everyone is talking about the GNC company and there plans instead of Multis

it is a good quality multi vitamin.

7:360
09-24-2006, 10:43 PM
So it's already been agreed amongst the majority that ya'll believe GNC's multi is good.....

My question is "How do you know?"

What makes GNC so good.

Hey bravo....I'm still waiting on those studies you claimed GNC has. =)

djbaumsquad
09-24-2006, 11:20 PM
I agree " how do you know?" I know it sucks. I am looking at my chart right now. It got rated very low. I will snap a picture some time and post it up.

7:360
09-24-2006, 11:26 PM
I would actually be interested in seeing that. I wonder why those types of documents wouldn't be released to the public...

could be for the sake of business and competition.

ElderJefferson
09-25-2006, 07:48 AM
So it's already been agreed amongst the majority that ya'll believe GNC's multi is good.....

My question is "How do you know?"

What makes GNC so good.

Hey bravo....I'm still waiting on those studies you claimed GNC has. =)

Well, I was suprised to find that the Mega Men hold their own against the other leading brands (Adams, Pak, Activite Sport, etc.). They supply a lot of your vitamin and mineral needs. The only real knocks I can see against them is that they supply a little too much Vanadium (10 mg compared to the recommended max doseage of 8) and half of the Vitamin A comes from Acetate as opposed to Beta Carotene. Overall (strictly based on vitamin content), it looks pretty good.

bts
09-25-2006, 08:51 AM
I like Beverly International super pak.

Mor_phinePlz
09-25-2006, 02:34 PM
Definetly ANIMAL PACK.

RavensFan2k3
09-25-2006, 06:33 PM
Well, I was suprised to find that the Mega Men hold their own against the other leading brands (Adams, Pak, Activite Sport, etc.). They supply a lot of your vitamin and mineral needs. The only real knocks I can see against them is that they supply a little too much Vanadium (10 mg compared to the recommended max doseage of 8) and half of the Vitamin A comes from Acetate as opposed to Beta Carotene. Overall (strictly based on vitamin content), it looks pretty good.
So you agree that GNC's multivitamins are good? Which of them you think is best? I've only used Mega Men's Sports, but I heard the regular one is better...and then bravo said that Ultra Mega Men's Gold is the best...

7:360
09-25-2006, 06:48 PM
and then bravo said that Ultra Mega Men's Gold is the best...
bravo works for GNC... of course he's going to say it's the best. lol

RavensFan2k3
09-25-2006, 07:22 PM
bravo works for GNC... of course he's going to say it's the best. lol
no i mean the best of the GNC multivitamins, not of all multivitamins

thedisneydad
09-25-2006, 09:23 PM
I prefer Universal Animal Pack, but right now use GNC Mega Men Sport, it was a birthday present and I can't beat that price.

kalagan
09-26-2006, 05:18 AM
hi,

I use to take Optimem (ON), but the last month i bought The "Ultimate Nutrition Complete Formula". The Amount of each vitamin/mineral is higher in the Complete Formula" and i feel less tired when i use this one (but maybe it is only in my mind !).

Do you think that Optimem is a good Multi or it's better to take a "stronger" product like UN ?

About the Optimem : do you think that 2 pills a day is enought ?

timevalue
09-26-2006, 07:32 AM
I was wondering do they make home brand multis?

esquire415
09-26-2006, 10:12 AM
Here's another website that reviews and recommend excellent multi-vitamins:

http://eregimens.com/therapies/Supplements/FavoriteSupplements.htm

They are high on NSI multi-vitamins (A Vitacost in-house product) which I think has one of the, if not, the best quality out there and the price is top notch! Garden of Life's Living Multi is excellent too but has gotten too expensive. MegaFood is another high quality whole food brand. In fact if you must only take a one-a-day multi, the MegaFood DailyFoods Iron Free One Daily takes the cake.

NSI Synergy Multi-Vitamin Version 10 from Vitacost.com has the best quality branded vitamins, minerals, antioxidants and nutrients all in one capsule (6 capsule dosage) and also the best price even without their 5% off coupon. Take a look:

http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Synergy-Multi-Vitamin-Version-10

bravo03_old
09-26-2006, 10:17 AM
Here's another website that reviews and recommend excellent multi-vitamins:

http://eregimens.com/therapies/Supplements/FavoriteSupplements.htm

They are high on NSI multi-vitamins (A Vitacost in-house product) which I think has one of the, if not, the best quality out there and the price is top notch! Garden of Life's Living Multi is excellent too but has gotten too expensive. MegaFood is another high quality whole food brand. In fact if you must only take a one-a-day multi, the MegaFood DailyFoods Iron Free One Daily takes the cake.

NSI Synergy Multi-Vitamin Version 10 from Vitacost.com has the best quality branded vitamins, minerals, antioxidants and nutrients all in one capsule (6 capsule dosage) and also the best price even without their 5% off coupon. Take a look:

http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Synergy-Multi-Vitamin-Version-10

for 6 caps a day, doesnt even compare to others.

DaveGabe24
10-01-2006, 10:23 AM
<3 Animal Pak <3


MRM Beyond Basics also looks good, they are one of my favorite companies so I may give that a try some time.

Southpaw802
10-01-2006, 08:15 PM
I take GNC Mega Man Sport with BCAAs. a 180 bottle lasts 3 months and costs about 30 dollars.

jdubz
10-02-2006, 03:17 PM
Adam by Now Nutrition
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/adam.html
For the price you can't beat the performance it supplies. It contains all the ingredients a good multi should. These include: Saw Palmetto, Lycopene, Beta Carotene, ZMA, and many others.

Check it out if you have the opportunity!

polone
10-02-2006, 05:59 PM
so what about opti-men? anyone tried this?

Storm442
10-02-2006, 10:11 PM
Costco makes it's own type of "Animal Pak" that's almost equally matched for half the price... (Kirkland Energy Packs)
What's the breakdown on % amount of each vitamin in the Costco ones?
Is it really 1/2 the price?

If so, I'll have to tag along with my friend when he goes next and pick up a TON of 'em for the year.

Thanks,
~Storm

BusyDizzyIzzy
10-03-2006, 01:01 PM
I'm gonna have to go with the cheapo Wal-mart "Equate" brand multivitamin. I get 300 caplets for like $6(The generic centrum with Lycopene I believe). I take one caplet twice daily(Morning/evening). Like all multivitamins and supplements, 99.9% are rediculously overpriced. Get whats cheap.

snakehips31
10-04-2006, 07:51 PM
If i had to pick one it would be animal packs.kind of expensive but if i got some extra cash i pick them up.

:::JMANN:::
10-04-2006, 07:56 PM
I used to take the Mega Men's multi, then I tried animal paks for the past 5 months, I haven't really noticed some huge difference, which you probably wouldn't but I was looking at the numbers, and though the animal paks have the extra aminos and stuff, I get extra aminos from my protien and weight gainer so I figured it's not really necessary to pay the price for them when the mega men's just as good, I'm going to be switching back as soon as I run out.

Monday
10-04-2006, 08:12 PM
i use 1-a-day active, not a lot of iron in it like other multi's. opinions?

7:360
10-04-2006, 10:07 PM
A good multi has 100% of the DV of almost everything, especially Biotin.

ITS-GO-TIME
10-04-2006, 11:27 PM
Well, this is a tuff call because like a lot of people have already said, multivitamins don't provide that immediate gratification that some other products do. My favorite however, is Universals Animal Pack. I buy them at a local store for 29 bucks and i take one pack every other day. that makes them last a while as there are 44 packs in one bottle. I think the bottle says to take two packs per day...but my shampoo bottle says to repeat if necessary...you get the picture.

New Breed
10-05-2006, 05:31 AM
I have been using GNC Mega Man, not too expensive and it does the trick.

Universal Rep
10-05-2006, 06:35 AM
To everyone here who voted, thanks for making Animal Pak the Multivitamin of the Year at BB.com for the second year in a row:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/animalpak.html

Thanks for all the support fellas.

bravo03_old
10-05-2006, 08:47 AM
To everyone here who voted, thanks for making Animal Pak the Multivitamin of the Year at BB.com for the second year in a row:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/animalpak.html

Thanks for all the support fellas.

welcome :) Universal deserves it, such a great quality multi vitamin.

ElderJefferson
10-05-2006, 08:58 AM
To everyone here who voted, thanks for making Animal Pak the Multivitamin of the Year at BB.com for the second year in a row:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/animalpak.html

Thanks for all the support fellas.

Congrats my man. I don't take the stuff, but congratulations anyway.

Full 90
10-05-2006, 09:38 AM
Vitrin by Nutraceutics. The BB.com description says it best.

"Two Vitrin caplets replace your multivitamin with 100% RDA of 28 essential vitamins and minerals, plus the antioxidant equivalent of FIVE servings of fruits and vegetables."

These have been working well for me.

RavensFan2k3
10-05-2006, 02:41 PM
I used to take the Mega Men's multi, then I tried animal paks for the past 5 months, I haven't really noticed some huge difference, which you probably wouldn't but I was looking at the numbers, and though the animal paks have the extra aminos and stuff, I get extra aminos from my protien and weight gainer so I figured it's not really necessary to pay the price for them when the mega men's just as good, I'm going to be switching back as soon as I run out.

I have been using GNC Mega Man, not too expensive and it does the trick.
Do you guys use the Mega Men's sport or the regular one?

jdk
10-05-2006, 03:11 PM
Do you guys use the Mega Men's sport or the regular one?


I take Mega Man Sport. The only comparison is the regular ones have some fruit ingredients, but Sport has a couple extras. Sport ones work great. I notice a big difference using them.

WMD
10-06-2006, 10:27 AM
just bought a couple bottles of ortho core- if i gain 20 lbs while losing bf ill let you guys know.

riven51
10-06-2006, 10:46 AM
I take about 4- 6 depending if i remeber of gnc mega multi, animal pack was excellent, but hard to swallow like 13 pills a day :P,

7:360
10-06-2006, 10:53 AM
but hard to swallow like 13 pills a day :P,
Don't be so metro and swallow the damn pills :) j/k

Ledge
10-07-2006, 02:51 AM
Animal pak? 13 tabs, thats nothing, check this out.

NSI Synergy Platinum Multi-Vitamin V2. - One serving 28 caps, 6 softgels and 2 chewtabs... h0ly ****.! LOL! 30 servings in a container, $280.00 :P

RavensFan2k3
10-07-2006, 01:32 PM
I take Mega Man Sport. The only comparison is the regular ones have some fruit ingredients, but Sport has a couple extras. Sport ones work great. I notice a big difference using them.
whats the purpose of those fruit ingrediants?

EMISGOD
10-07-2006, 01:53 PM
I have to say that I had some doubts about Activite, being that it was made by MHP, but they have totally won me over. I will never use the GNC multis ever again. The only minor complaint I have about the Activite is 4 pills...I really prefer to have 2 pills max, but that is a minor complaint as the vague nausea I would sometimes get from the GNC multis is long gone, baby!

IronBrew
10-07-2006, 06:12 PM
The best multi on the market that I know of is the Life Extension Mix at www.lef.org

That's what I use and recommend.
Will Brink,

I read you all of the time. I didn't know you were an LEF fan. Kudos to you. LEF rules, and you rule too. If we could get more sports medicine companies to work with the LEF doctors, the quality of the supplements would really improve.

WillBrink
10-07-2006, 07:04 PM
Will Brink,

I read you all of the time. I didn't know you were an LEF fan. Kudos to you. LEF rules, and you rule too.

Thanx brother. If you run my name at the LEF site, you will see I write for their mag pretty regular. I have an article on sarcopenia coming out shortly FYI. My personal supp stack is mostly LEF BTW. Good luck.

jOzz
10-07-2006, 11:32 PM
Natures' Own - Multivitamin & Mineral

Ledge
10-08-2006, 03:49 AM
"The best multi on the market that I know of is the Life Extension Mix"

theres a few different versions of the LEM, which one in particular u talkin about.

JayWesson1
10-11-2006, 06:57 AM
I have been taking GNC's Mega Man multi-vitamin for a some years now and it has been great. Combined with a good diet and some hard training life has treated me well. I have taken the Animal pak's before and I never really noticed a difference between the two so I have stuck with what is more cost effective.

LilBrik
10-11-2006, 09:16 AM
I like the Mega-Green Multi-Vitamin from GNC. It's got just about everything.

CARAY
10-11-2006, 06:35 PM
vitazone is one step ahead of todays leading multi.
check out this link to lean more about it

http://www.synergyworldwide.com/SynergyCorp/Content.aspx?PageID=1356&CatalogItemID=3085&OrderType=2

Ledge
10-12-2006, 06:18 AM
vitazone is one step ahead of todays leading multi.
check out this link to lean more about it

http://www.synergyworldwide.com/SynergyCorp/Content.aspx?PageID=1356&CatalogItemID=3085&OrderType=2


8 caps, and still not enough of the B group vitamins......folate or selenium either for that matter... good spread of antioxidants though.

mutetheworld
10-12-2006, 09:14 AM
I currently use ON's Opti-Men multi but once this bottle runs out I am going to try NOW Adam. They both have incredible ingredients for staying healthy.

CARAY
10-12-2006, 12:47 PM
8 caps, and still not enough of the B group vitamins......folate or selenium either for that matter... good spread of antioxidants though.

hey bro thanks for checking it out but this is the best combination of vitamins, minerals, phytonutrients and antioxidants i seen on the market, but again thanks for checking it out.

7:360
10-12-2006, 01:57 PM
Only 60% Biotin? :(

CARAY
10-12-2006, 02:08 PM
Only 60% Biotin? :(

from one packet....x2 a day...your body cant digest more then that at one time anymore at a time and your pissing it out.

7:360
10-12-2006, 02:14 PM
Of course your body can digest more than 60% of your RDA for biotin..

What it doesn't need to process is the 300% of all the other B vitamins. There's no balance in between the high % of the regular B's and the low % of the essential b's (folic acid, biotin). The folic acid isn't get absorbed anyways because it's manufactured in the inner core of the pill anyways.

There's a lot that's getting screened out aside from the biotin in that multi and a lot of others. That multi is unbalanced, having 200% of one vitamin and not even 100% of the other. A good multi has AT LEAST 100% of every vitamin.

CARAY
10-12-2006, 02:22 PM
Of course your body can digest more than 60% of your RDA for biotin..

What it doesn't need to process is the 300% of all the other B vitamins. There's no balance in between the high % of the regular B's and the low % of the essential b's (folic acid, biotin). The folic acid isn't get absorbed anyways because it's manufactured in the inner core of the pill anyways.

There's a lot that's getting screened out aside from the biotin in that multi and a lot of others. That multi is unbalanced, having 200% of one vitamin and not even 100% of the other. A good multi has AT LEAST 100% of every vitamin.

alright bro show me a muti that has 100% of every vitamin...all i was saying was that this vitapack worked best for me.

Merkava
10-12-2006, 04:50 PM
I take solgar VM 2000.. I'd prefer solgar omnium but it's too expensive.. at least where I live.

Absane
10-12-2006, 05:17 PM
I take some generic brand of centrum complete.. I get 300 days worth of pills for $8.

Every other nutrient I need comes from food.

End of story.

CARAY
10-12-2006, 06:15 PM
I take some generic brand of centrum complete.. I get 300 days worth of pills for $8.

Every other nutrient I need comes from food.

End of story.

with the way todays food is grown and harvested you'll need to take a good muti vitamin

Merkava
10-12-2006, 06:27 PM
with the way todays food is grown and harvested you'll need to take a good muti vitaminYou're probably right, but even that is not enough. It's better to eat more organic food. I always eat organic bread, rice and pasta for example. Unfortunately, I can't afford eating organic eggs and meat though.. it's pretty expensive.

CARAY
10-12-2006, 06:34 PM
You're probably right, but even that is not enough. It's better to eat more organic food. I always eat organic bread, rice and pasta for example. Unfortunately, I can't afford eating organic eggs and meat though.. it's pretty expensive.

AMEN BROTHA

RavensFan2k3
10-13-2006, 04:07 AM
Of course your body can digest more than 60% of your RDA for biotin..

What it doesn't need to process is the 300% of all the other B vitamins. There's no balance in between the high % of the regular B's and the low % of the essential b's (folic acid, biotin). The folic acid isn't get absorbed anyways because it's manufactured in the inner core of the pill anyways.

There's a lot that's getting screened out aside from the biotin in that multi and a lot of others. That multi is unbalanced, having 200% of one vitamin and not even 100% of the other. A good multi has AT LEAST 100% of every vitamin.
but arent these percentages based on a 2000 caloric diet? I doubt anyone here eats only 2000 calories a day.

Absane
10-13-2006, 04:56 AM
with the way todays food is grown and harvested you'll need to take a good muti vitamin

You are likely right... but I get the same results from generic vitamins that I get from the more expensive bottle (40$ for a month suppy? eh).

I'll let you know in a few months if I have a deficiency in anything :p

7:360
10-13-2006, 10:23 AM
but arent these percentages based on a 2000 caloric diet? I doubt anyone here eats only 2000 calories a day.
Exactly...so if a multi doesn't even have at LEAST 100%, how useful and effective can it be? Most of us on here are eating way past 2,000 calories like you mentioned.

CARAY
10-13-2006, 10:40 AM
You are likely right... but I get the same results from generic vitamins that I get from the more expensive bottle (40$ for a month suppy? eh).

I'll let you know in a few months if I have a deficiency in anything :p

Bro i hate to break it to you but you get what you pay for....buy generic you get generic results or it usually pases right though you and you piss it out, it wont take a few months to see if you have any deficiencies its when you get up there in age you'll see it....either you pay the price now or you pay latter.

7:360
10-13-2006, 11:46 AM
Bro i hate to break it to you but you get what you pay for....buy generic you get generic results or it usually pases right though you and you piss it out, it wont take a few months to see if you have any deficiencies its when you get up there in age you'll see it....either you pay the price now or you pay latter.
OMG....we have someone with brains. Finally! :) Nice CARAY, nice. I think the same way after working @ Mass Nutrition and trying every single product out there.

Ledge
10-13-2006, 10:00 PM
"Exactly...so if a multi doesn't even have at LEAST 100%, how useful and effective can it be?"

Not very. Another problem with generic vitamins, and yeah an example is Centrum, the doses are so minimal, that there would be little benefit from taking them..... im taking NOW Adams, but still need to supplement C, calc and magnesium and a low separate dose of E. Everything else is pretty much covered.

Merkava
10-14-2006, 02:57 PM
Bro i hate to break it to you but you get what you pay for....buy generic you get generic results or it usually pases right though you and you piss it out, it wont take a few months to see if you have any deficiencies its when you get up there in age you'll see it....either you pay the price now or you pay latter.Bro, may I ask you which multivitamins you take? I currently take solgar VM 2000 (solgar omnium is too expensive). Unfortunately for me, it's much more expensive here compared to the US. I would like to get it shipped over from the US, but I don't know anything about import tax/duty etc. :bash:

ZombieGore
10-14-2006, 07:41 PM
i just started taking gnc megamen(took nothing before i started taking this) and i feel really good throughout the day. helps he get out of bed easier for some reason(usually super tired and slow in morning) and gets me through a day feeling good

nintendodude
10-20-2006, 10:34 PM
vitazone is one step ahead of todays leading multi.
check out this link to lean more about it

http://www.synergyworldwide.com/SynergyCorp/Content.aspx?PageID=1356&CatalogItemID=3085&OrderType=2
Size: 60-8 Capsules Packets
SRP: $110.50

I hope I am interpreting this correctly... but at two recommended servings a day, you have a 30 day supply. This means each serving of this vitamin costs roughly 3.75$.

Isn't that insanely high to anyone else? I hope a lifetime pass to the playboy mansion is included at this price.

7:360
10-21-2006, 12:36 PM
Rule of the thumb:

You can't put a price on your health. If you don't spend the money now on preventive medicine, you'll spend it later on operations, medications, etc. People ought to cease complaining about about cost. If a product is expensive but it's useless, that's another story. For all you that are always concerned with the prices of products because you're looking for the better buy, a better buy shouldn't be the label of a product just because the price is cheaper. You get what you pay for the majority of the time and that rule can almost always be applied to everything. Of course, I AM NOT SAYING THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO ANY RULE :)

High quality = Higher prices

Lower quality = Lower prices

It's not rocket science people :)

nintendodude
10-24-2006, 08:47 AM
Fair enough, Danny. But would you pay 7.50$ per day on your vitamins? They're important, but a good multi + good diet makes more sense on my budget than $1,326 dollars a year on my vitamin. If you have the money, by all means, spend all that money on your multi. More power to you.

scottjameson
10-24-2006, 09:40 AM
Vitamins are something you can't feel the difference at least not immediately. You don't get scurvy the first day you miss your vitamin C. Frankly after 30 years of trying different brands, I have concluded that all vitamins are created equal provided the contents (mg and actual ingredients) are the same.

So IMHO, save your money buy by price. Sam's Club works for me.

Scott
www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com

Dublo
10-24-2006, 10:14 PM
For me it's either Cenovis or Centrum. Which ever one is in stock.
Currently it's Centrum.

ssavan01
10-24-2006, 11:13 PM
Alot of the vitamins that people have been naking have really great product labels. But that doesnt always mean great quality. Does anyone know of the best vitamin with the best manufacturing quality? I'm still looking, i know that purity products make a multi called "The perfect Multi plus super Greens", they include real vegetable and fruit extracts in there top quality. Anyone know any other great companies?

esquire415
10-24-2006, 11:53 PM
Try the following:

Garden of Life Living Multi Optimal Formula
http://www.vitacost.com/GardenofLifeLivingMultiOptimalFormula

NSI Synergy Ultra Multi-Vitamin Version 3
http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Synergy-Ultra-Multi-Vitamin-Version-3

Pure Essence Labs Life Essence
http://www.vitacost.com/PureEssenceLabsLifeEssence-120Tablets

Life Extension Mix Multivitamin
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2000/nov2000_report_lemix_1.html

dave_p_91902
10-25-2006, 07:32 AM
There is an excellent article on pages 134-141 in the Dec. 2006 issue of Ironman (the newest issue). After reading it, you may see your multi a bit differently. It's definitly a one of a kind supplement, and not just because of the enzymes. Read the article and you'll see the science behind it.

Good stuff. I'm hooked.

nintendodude
10-25-2006, 08:48 AM
Alot of the vitamins that people have been naking have really great product labels. But that doesnt always mean great quality. Does anyone know of the best vitamin with the best manufacturing quality? I'm still looking, i know that purity products make a multi called "The perfect Multi plus super Greens", they include real vegetable and fruit extracts in there top quality. Anyone know any other great companies?
I've liked http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pure/life.html

Covers a lot of bases, potent, quality assured. Not exactly a body-building vitamin, but a total health vitamin.

7:360
10-25-2006, 09:13 AM
Fair enough, Danny. But would you pay 7.50$ per day on your vitamins? They're important, but a good multi + good diet makes more sense on my budget than $1,326 dollars a year on my vitamin. If you have the money, by all means, spend all that money on your multi. More power to you.
Nope, I wouldn't pay $7.50 but I would pay about $1.25:)

jjhoffard
10-25-2006, 09:41 AM
I use Shcwartz Laboratories Vita Plex has everything you need in and easy on the stomach.

ggraves
10-25-2006, 10:20 AM
I use the Animal Pak, its expensive but you get all your bases covered, and you can definately feel the diffenece in recovery and ****.

CARAY
10-25-2006, 04:10 PM
Size: 60-8 Capsules Packets
SRP: $110.50

I hope I am interpreting this correctly... but at two recommended servings a day, you have a 30 day supply. This means each serving of this vitamin costs roughly 3.75$.

Isn't that insanely high to anyone else? I hope a lifetime pass to the playboy mansion is included at this price.

$3.75 aint sh_t when it comes to your health...thats a cup of coffee a day! But cheap ass people wanna cry about a multi being to expensive, They might as well bottle up their piss and take that as your muti for the day cause thats what you get when you buy cheap vitamins..you just piss it out!!! Now that will save you some money!

7:360
10-25-2006, 06:17 PM
$3.75 aint sh_t when it comes to your health...thats a cup of coffee a day! But cheap ass people wanna cry about a multi being to expensive, They might as well bottle up their piss and take that as your muti for the day cause thats what you get when you buy cheap vitamins..you just piss it out!!! Now that will save you some money!
Compared to how much I spend daily on my multi, $3.75 is pretty expensive...to me anyways! :)

I do agree that "cheaply priced" or "best buys" that most people seem to go for are not the best route to go. In the end, you get what you pay for. 5 dollars for a multi is not exactly very assuring ;)

nintendodude
10-25-2006, 10:37 PM
$3.75 aint sh_t when it comes to your health...thats a cup of coffee a day! But cheap ass people wanna cry about a multi being to expensive, They might as well bottle up their piss and take that as your muti for the day cause thats what you get when you buy cheap vitamins..you just piss it out!!! Now that will save you some money!
It is 3.75... for *one serving.* That makes your multi-vitamin alone 7.50 a day. and I was not "crying" that it was too expensive. It is a simple matter of cost vs. effectiveness. I'd rather pay a quarter as much for another vitamin that works 75% as well. Comes down to an economic term known as "diminishing returns." I agree, a cheap vitamin that is the "blue light special" is not going to do you any benefit. But a multi like AST 32X, at a cost of 16 cents per serving with two recommended servings adds up to 32 cents per day versus 7.50... and the AST vitamin is quality and is well-respected with a good vitamin profile. Are you starting to see my point?

esquire415
10-26-2006, 02:50 PM
How about this?

NSI Synergy Multi-Vitamin Version 10 -- 180 Capsules
http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Synergy-Multi-Vitamin-Version-10

$1 per serving (6 capsules) good for 30 days. It also uses highly-concentrated nutrients, bioactive forms, digestive aids, and chelated minerals such Activin, Betatene, Bioperene, Chromemate, Ester-C, FloraGlo, L-Optizinc, BerryVin, and AHCC. In addition, it provides nutrients such as ginkgo biloba, green tea extract, grape seed extract, and Coenzyme Q10, that aren't included in typical multi-vitamins.

Yes, only the best ingredients that your body can easily absorb, the only thing missing for me is Olivol or Hidrox (olive leaf/fruit extract) to provide more antioxidant & antibiotic properties.

7:360
10-26-2006, 03:13 PM
It is 3.75... for *one serving.* That makes your multi-vitamin alone 7.50 a day. and I was not "crying" that it was too expensive. It is a simple matter of cost vs. effectiveness. I'd rather pay a quarter as much for another vitamin that works 75% as well. Comes down to an economic term known as "diminishing returns." I agree, a cheap vitamin that is the "blue light special" is not going to do you any benefit. But a multi like AST 32X, at a cost of 16 cents per serving with two recommended servings adds up to 32 cents per day versus 7.50... and the AST vitamin is quality and is well-respected with a good vitamin profile. Are you starting to see my point?

I never liked AST's multi. It gave me a stomach ache whenever I took it. Too harsh on the stomach and it's an unbalanced multi. 300% for Pantothenic Acid but 20% for biotin? Biotin is one of the very essential B vitamins and a costly one at that. It reflects a lot of the company when they slack us short on a vitamin like Biotin. Hate to disagree but to each his own like always.

nintendodude
10-26-2006, 06:13 PM
heh, I have never tried AST either. It always seems to pop up in the "What's a good multi?" thread. It was just one of the cheaper multi's...

noypi
10-26-2006, 08:37 PM
hey guys.. i was just ondering. to all of the people who take animal pak.

does your pee smell like animal pak? even like just a slight smell of it?

cause when i started to try using animal pak. after 3 weeeks of using it, my pee started to smell different.. like animal pak. but thas only 3 pees after i take animal pak.

CARAY
10-26-2006, 11:40 PM
[QUOTE=nintendodude]It is 3.75... for *one serving.* That makes your multi-vitamin alone 7.50 a day.

Sorry about that bro i pay half the price you saw for that multi because im a distributor for SYNERGY WORLDWIDE ( which anyone can be) so i do pay only 3.75 a day for the best muti i tried period!

bigfree66
10-27-2006, 11:05 PM
ast multi pro 32x does the job

Ledge
10-28-2006, 01:52 AM
How about this?

NSI Synergy Multi-Vitamin Version 10 -- 180 Capsules
http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Synergy-Multi-Vitamin-Version-10

$1 per serving (6 capsules) good for 30 days. It also uses highly-concentrated nutrients, bioactive forms, digestive aids, and chelated minerals such Activin, Betatene, Bioperene, Chromemate, Ester-C, FloraGlo, L-Optizinc, BerryVin, and AHCC. In addition, it provides nutrients such as ginkgo biloba, green tea extract, grape seed extract, and Coenzyme Q10, that aren't included in typical multi-vitamins.

Yes, only the best ingredients that your body can easily absorb, the only thing missing for me is Olivol or Hidrox (olive leaf/fruit extract) to provide more antioxidant & antibiotic properties.


NSI Synergy Basic Multi-Vitamin Version 2, this one looks solid enough at 2 caps a day ..... they sure dont hold back on potency ... good stuff.. :P

ryan - pumped
10-28-2006, 03:19 AM
Serving Size 2 Tablets

Beta-Carotene (as pro-Vitamin A 6 mg) 10,000 IU 200%
Vitamin C (from Calcium Ascorbate) 350 mg 580%
Vitamin D (as Ergocalociferol) 400 IU 100%
Vitamin E (from d-alpha Tocopheryl Succinate) 200 IU 670%
Vitamin K (as Phytonadione) 50 mcg 60%
Thiamine (Vit. B-1) (from Thiamine HCI) 25 mg 1670%
Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2) 25 mg 1470%
Niacin (Vitamin B-3) (from Niacinamide and Inositol Hexaniothinate) 50 mg 250%
Vitamin B-6 (from Pynidoxine HCI and Pyridoxal-5 Phosphate (P-5-P) 25 mg 1250%
Folate (as Folic Acid) 800 mcg 200%
Vitamin B-12 (as Methylobalamin) 250 mcg 4170%
Biotin 300 mcg 100%
Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B-5) (from Calcium d-Pantothenate) 100 mg 1000%
Calcium (from Calcium Carbonate and Calcium Ascorbate) 350 mg 35%
Iodine (from Kelp) 225 mcg 150%
Magnesium (from Magnesium Oxide, Magnesium Citrate and ZMA®) 100 mg 25%
Zinc (from ZinMax® (Zinc Picolinate) and ZMA®) 30 mg 200%
Selenium (from L-Selenomethionine) 200 mcg 290%
Copper (from Copper AAC*) 500 mcg 25%
Manganese (from Manganese AAC*) 3 mg 150%
Chromium (from Chromium Chelavite®) 200 mcg 170%
Molybedunum (from Molybdenum AAC*) 50 mcg 70%
Potassium (from Potassium Chloride) 50 mg 1%
Saw Palmetto Extract (Berries)(Serenoa repens)(min. 45% Fatty Acids) 160 mg †
Panax Ginseng Extract (Roots) (min. 5% Ginsenosides) 100 mg †
ZMA® 55 mg †
Alpha Lipoic Acid 50 mg †
Choline (from Choline Bitartrate) 50 mg †
Kelp (Laminaria digitala(Whole Plant) 45 mg †
Ginkgo Biloba Extract (Leaf) (min. 24% Ginkgoflavonglycerides) 30 mg †
Nettle Extract (Root) (Urtica dioica) (min. 30 ppm Socopoletin) 25 mg †
Grape Seed Extract (Vitis vinifera) (min. 90% Total Polyphenols) 25 mg †
Inositol (from Inositol Granules and Inositol Nicotinate) 25 mg †
Bromelain (2400 GDU) 25 mg †
Lipase (60,000 FCC) 12.5 mg †
Papain (2,000 USP) 12.5 mg †
Amylase (5000 FCC) 5 mg †
CoQ10 (as Ubidecarenone) 5 mg †
Lycopene (from Natural Tomato Extract) 1 mg †
Boron (from Boron AAC*) 1 mg †
Lutein (from FloraGLO®) 500 mcg †
Vanadium (from Vanadium AAC*) 100 mcg †

nintendodude
10-28-2006, 09:15 AM
[QUOTE=nintendodude]It is 3.75... for *one serving.* That makes your multi-vitamin alone 7.50 a day.

Sorry about that bro i pay half the price you saw for that multi because im a distributor for SYNERGY WORLDWIDE ( which anyone can be) so i do pay only 3.75 a day for the best muti i tried period!
That is not a bad deal then, Caray. If I could afford it (I'm a full-time student...23 credits this semester. Why? Because...... ...) I would enjoy one of these spiffy expensive vitamins. :)

bill4588
10-29-2006, 12:49 PM
ive been taking ON's Opti-Men for about a week. the only thing i really notice is that im more alert during the day. is that all a multi is supposed to do (never took them before last week)? and i mean is that the only way i can tell if it's working? and is opti-men a good multi?

dirtyram
10-31-2006, 11:13 PM
Ultra Preventative X is good.

kalagan
11-03-2006, 02:12 AM
Hi fellas,

I want to know what's your opinion about this multivitamins :

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/un/vitmin.html

Ledge
11-03-2006, 03:06 AM
Hi fellas,

I want to know what's your opinion about this multivitamins :

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/un/vitmin.html

doest look bad, but at 9 tablets per serve + iron, ill pass. and u dont need 20,000iu of vitamin A either. good doses of vitamin C, calcium and magnesium though :P

kalagan
11-03-2006, 03:40 AM
doest look bad, but at 9 tablets per serve + iron, ill pass. and u dont need 20,000iu of vitamin A either. good doses of vitamin C, calcium and magnesium though :P

Maybe should i take only 6 tablets instead of 9 ?

7:360
11-03-2006, 01:23 PM
I wouldn't take anything more than 6 pills for a multi. That multi you're looking at looks very unbalanced and overstacked. There are more proportioned multis out there.

boyscouT
11-05-2006, 02:17 AM
NOW ADAM or MRM Beyond Basics.

armz_ha
11-05-2006, 07:19 PM
I just bought a bottle of GNC multi. Their multi is good quality and should work well?

7:360
11-06-2006, 09:22 AM
I just bought a bottle of GNC multi. Their multi is good quality and should work well?
I'm interested in knowing how do you know it is of good quality?

camdz
11-07-2006, 02:57 PM
I take GNC's Ultra Mega 2 aswell. They're my all time favourite. I'm very confident i'm getting the best array of vitamins into my system every day with UM 2, and especially after your workouts when you need the nutrients the most.
This is my answer as well.

armz_ha
11-07-2006, 09:22 PM
I'm interested in knowing how do you know it is of good quality?
i don't know. lol


that's why i'm asking if any of you guys have experiences with this multi.

DeuceRooster
11-07-2006, 09:36 PM
I just ordered the Animal Pack so I'll let you folks know how it works out for me.

Hash3
11-07-2006, 09:54 PM
animal pack is good
Gnc's Mega MAn isnt too far off either

nicholandrew
11-07-2006, 11:12 PM
AHCC (Active Hexose Correlated Compounds) are used in hundreds of hospitals as a dietary supplement for patients recovering from various diseases including cancers and Liver problems. Tens of thousands in USA take this nutriceutical for their health and well-being. Intensive research has been conducted and continues in several countries to test its effectiveness of the nutrition supplement in enhancing the human immune system.


AHCC Products :
AHCC (http://www.nutrovita.com/store/AHCC.htm)

AHCC Article (http://www.nutrovita.com/info/AHCC.htm)

esquire415
11-08-2006, 11:34 PM
animal pack is good
Gnc's Mega MAn isnt too far off either

I don't know but you should compare them side by side with:

http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Synergy-Ultra-Multi-Vitamin-Version-3

Alphy
11-08-2006, 11:52 PM
Its alittle more then your run of the mill vitamin, but try this on for size. Its what I use:

http://www.panacea4u.com

MartialMuscle
11-09-2006, 12:27 PM
My best experience with a multi was with xyience's xytamins, Gave me great energy throughout the day, when I used them I got a great price on them, but haven't been so lucky finding them that cheap since them. I always stick with Opti-men multi-vitamin, unless I find some deals on multi-packs.

chad21186
11-11-2006, 02:00 PM
all about russian bear bodybuilding does not sell it but it rocks.

SpankingDMonkey
11-11-2006, 03:24 PM
I take Ultra Vita for Men. They sell them at Vitamin world, and it rocks. I never go to the gym in the morning without taking my vitamins(very essential).

jtrincon
11-11-2006, 03:38 PM
i actually just bought animal pak today, haven't taken it yet but wanted to get some opinionis about it....

mj3150
11-12-2006, 04:37 PM
for those that use animal pak how many times do u take it?

cute_asian_girl
11-14-2006, 09:57 PM
TwinLabs Dail One Caps or Daily Two Caps. Too many vitamines are tablets and they just don't dissolve. I can tell when the TwinLabs kicks in because I get a boost of energy from the B vitamines. I have to be careful and make sure I take it on a full stomach, otherwise it gives me abdominal cramps. I.e. the vitamines break down/absorb really quick!

smssambear19
11-15-2006, 02:19 PM
If you are looking for a solid multi there are only 4 that I would say actually do the trick for someone who is seriously busting their ass in the gym. Note: If your are a serious trainer these are the multis you need to take. If you are just looking for overall health you can find cheaper multis that will do the trick because you are just trying to maintain good overall health.

1.) MHP Activite Sport
2.) Universal Animal Pak
3.) AST Multi-Pro 32X
4.) GNC Ultra Mega Gold

My personal favorite is MHP's activite sport overall, but GNC's Ultra Mega Gold takes a close second place simply because it has 100mg of the vitamin b complex and you only have to take 2 pills a day.

Bone_Eater
11-18-2006, 02:29 PM
So ADMIN what is the last result ??? which multi vitamin won ?? I can't read all those pages !!!! please tell me.

Baixaria
11-21-2006, 10:24 AM
From what I have read these 40 sum pages. Animal pak is @ the top. But from my anaylsis cost/benefit, seems like NOW adams and MegaMan are the way 2 go since they are iron-free also. Life extension I was really interested but damn...those skittles are hella $$$$$. Have to say I will go with NOW adams and probably stack some Vita C with it.

monsterSIZE
11-21-2006, 11:21 AM
I take mens one a day, with breakfest and dinner. It is cheap!! Plus I also take extra vit c, calcium, and fish oil.

Bones98
11-26-2006, 01:58 PM
for those that use animal pak how many times do u take it?

You take once a day and twice a day for really heavy days. But I take 1 every time I work out. (4 days a week). The funniest stuff is when you notice you're peeing green liquid. hahahaha.

Ledge
11-29-2006, 10:24 PM
If you are looking for a solid multi there are only 4 that I would say actually do the trick for someone who is seriously busting their ass in the gym. Note: If your are a serious trainer these are the multis you need to take. If you are just looking for overall health you can find cheaper multis that will do the trick because you are just trying to maintain good overall health.

1.) MHP Activite Sport
2.) Universal Animal Pak
3.) AST Multi-Pro 32X
4.) GNC Ultra Mega Gold

My personal favorite is MHP's activite sport overall, but GNC's Ultra Mega Gold takes a close second place simply because it has 100mg of the vitamin b complex and you only have to take 2 pills a day.



the last 2 are certainly no better than the NOW Adams.

Bigmatt408
12-01-2006, 01:38 PM
Animal Pak, best overall plus u can take 1 pak a day to stretch your dollars

FarEastBeast
12-01-2006, 06:09 PM
If you want to go cheap, check out Twinlab's Daily One Caps. Along the lines of NOW Adam, GNC Mega Men, etc. is MRM's Beyond Basics. Three tabs a day, but good ingredient profile. Animal Pak has a lot of bells and whistles but skimps on crucial bodybuilding ingredients - it's overpriced and overrated.

warbird00
12-01-2006, 06:32 PM
Animal Pak, best overall plus u can take 1 pak a day to stretch your dollars

stretch your dollars?
its already expensive as ****!

7Happy7
12-01-2006, 09:16 PM
how come animal pak barely has any b vitamins??

deong
12-02-2006, 06:31 PM
i take gnc mega men cause its cheap and right up there with the top vitamins....

I also use this, it works well for me, i have not gotten sick in years. *Not that its all the vitamin, but its got something to do with it* I feel energized when i take it, and feel great all day! 1 at morning and 1 right before dinner time meal, right before work out.

Ledge
12-03-2006, 04:55 AM
how come animal pak barely has any b vitamins??

yeah they got pretty much everything in there except the kitchen sink and still fall short on the important B vitamin group and thats with 11 tablets.

Stopwatshiet
12-03-2006, 11:07 AM
On trainingdays animal pack and offdays V2000 multi vitamin

angelbud
12-04-2006, 11:59 AM
I choose VIBE from eniva. It is an all natural all in one liquid vitamin.It has the highest absorption rate of all liquids on the market. It has nutrients, vitamins and minerals for a healthy heart, healthy colon, anti-aging and and immune boost. I have never found a better product. Because it is all natural it doesn't interfere with meds. It is broken down so small that is works at the cellular level in your body. It is the best.

NoGutsNoGlory
12-05-2006, 04:40 PM
I tried animalpak, and while it is a decent vitamin, I feel it is a bit overrated. the major pitfall of animalpak is that some of those pills are like solid little stones. Call me crazy but I'm sure a whole lot of the goods this product has in it are being excreted rather than absorbed.

The best for my money is Activite by MHP. Research this unique product and you'll begin to understand why it's a cut above the competition. I'd have liked it to have been in capsule form, but the tablets easily disassemble for optimal assimilation. My few gripes with it are the enzyme blend and antioxidant matrix could stand to be doubled in milligrams. I wouldn't mind having to swallow a fifth tablet for such a trade-off.

The major problem with taking so many pills at once(animalpak), is that your body is not going to be able to absorb the dose in its entirety all at once. What's more, the B vitamins are water soluble, and best taken at intervals throughout the day. One pak in the morning just ain't cutting it for my money.

Ultra mega gold is decent, but GNC is notorious for "pixie dusting" their vitamins with miniscule amonts of extraneous ingredients, and that's a blow to their credibility as far as I'm concerned.

bravo03_old
12-07-2006, 07:53 PM
how come animal pak barely has any b vitamins??


should be packed with tons of b vitamins if im sure...

bulkingup79
12-08-2006, 12:31 AM
How pricey is animal pak, say a two month serving, what would the price be around.

currently im trying out a product called lifepak, supposely it has ALL the vitamins needed on a daily bases. was wondering if anyone has heard of this product.

seant313
12-08-2006, 03:19 AM
The best multi on the market that I know of is the Life Extension Mix at www.lef.org

That's what I use and recommend.

Thanks for all the websites and information....

NoGutsNoGlory
12-08-2006, 03:09 PM
Life Extension is excellent(I used it for 6 months at one time), but it's far too pricey to be a practical choice for the masses. We spend enough on NO boosters and creatine and protein and etc etc. You can do perfectly well with Activite by MHP for 22 dollars.

So no thank you Willy boy.

Archaic
12-08-2006, 03:27 PM
Animal Pack is trash.

I am using something brand new that I found listed on eBay, though it is not listed now. The product is called "Full Assurance" and I am on my 3rd week with it and I really like it. The ad for it was different and was not the usual retailer nonsense. I contacted the guy who had it for sale and he told me that people did not like the price or the number of capsules. He said that people have this "garage sale" mentality on eBay and he’s not offering the product on eBay anymore because of that. Its 15 capsules per day but I do not mind taking that many capsules. What I think is cool about this product is that it has no additives of any kind in it and contains only the beneficial ingredients. I have never seen a product like that before. I think supplements are very under-rated and that bodybuilders need more nutritional support than what their diets provide.

Archaic

nintendodude
12-08-2006, 03:48 PM
I've recently switched to NOW Adam and have no complaints. Solid and inexpensive. If you have a solid diet, you don't need to spend heaps on your vitamin, anyway.

surfnsailor
12-08-2006, 08:46 PM
I never liked AST's multi. It gave me a stomach ache whenever I took it. Too harsh on the stomach and it's an unbalanced multi. 300% for Pantothenic Acid but 20% for biotin? Biotin is one of the very essential B vitamins and a costly one at that. It reflects a lot of the company when they slack us short on a vitamin like Biotin. Hate to disagree but to each his own like always.

I was taking AST but after reading this I did some research and GNC Mega man has double the vitamin B!! I am going to go with GNC VIT from now on. I think vit b is very important to us bb’ers, right??? Any comments on the importance of vit b??Thanks

dressagerulz23
12-08-2006, 10:04 PM
nothing, absolutely f*cking nothing is better than this ;)

http://www.ghchealth.com/liquid-vitamin-mineral-intramax.php

nintendodude
12-08-2006, 11:21 PM
nothing, absolutely f*cking nothing is better than this ;)

http://www.ghchealth.com/liquid-vitamin-mineral-intramax.php
It's not bad... however, definitely lacking in B vitamins.

Alphy
12-09-2006, 04:24 PM
It's not bad... however, definitely lacking in B vitamins.

The stuff he linked to, IMO, is so far beyond 99% of the multi's discussed in this thread that it isnt funny.

How much B vitamins they say is in whatever your taking is FAR less important then other factors.

Alphy
12-09-2006, 09:51 PM
If his are actually getting absorbed and yours arent....then what? Not many people taking that into consideration here.

There is alot to know about vitamins, moreso then the amount per serving of whatever you think your body needs.

esquire415
12-09-2006, 10:51 PM
NSI Synergy Basic Multi-Vitamin Version 2, this one looks solid enough at 2 caps a day ..... they sure dont hold back on potency ... good stuff.. :P

Yup! And only costs $14.25

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2.00 Capsules
Servings per container: 30.00

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

Pro-Vitamin A (as natural carotenoids: beta carotene, alpha carotene, lutein, zeaxanthin, cryptoxanthin)(Betatene®) 5,000.00 IU 100%

Vitamin C (as calcium ascorbate)(Ester-C® MV) 200.00 mg 333%

Vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol) 700.00 IU 175%

Natural Vitamin E (as d-alpha tocopherol succinate and mixed tocopherols) 200.00 IU 667%

Vitamin K1 (phytonadione) 300.00 mcg 375%

Vitamin B1 (thiamine HCl) 50.00 mg 3,333%

Vitamin B2 (riboflavin) 10.00 mg 588%

Vitamin B3 (niacinamide) 50.00 mg 250%

Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine HCl) 50.00 mg 2,500%

Folic Acid (as folacin) 1.00 mg (1,000.00 mcg) 250%

Vitamin B12 (methylcobalamin) 500.00 mcg 8,333%

Biotin 500.00 mcg 167%

Vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid) 50.00 mg 500%

Calcium (ascorbate)(Ester-C® MV) 20.00 mg 2%

Magnesium (oxide) 200.00 mg 50%

Zinc (as L-OptiZinc®) 20.00 mg 133%

Selenium (selenomethionine) 200.00 mcg 286%

Copper (as amino acid chelate) 1.00 mg (1,000.00 mcg) 50%

Manganese (as amino acid chelate) 5.00 mg 250%

Chromium (as chromium polynicotinate)(Chromemate®) 400.00 mcg 333%

Molybdenum (as amino acid chelate) 150.00 mcg 200%

Coenzyme Q10 10.00 mg *

Alpha Lipoic Acid 100.00 mg *

Bioflavonoid (hesperidin) 50.00 mg *

Bioflavonoid (as quercetin) 100.00 mg *

Grape Seed Extract (seed)(ActiVin®) 100.00 mg *

Ginkgo Biloba (ginkgoaceae)(leaves)(standardized 24% ginkgo flavonglycosides, 6% terpene lactones) 120.00 mg *

Black pepper extract (Piper nigrum)(fruit extract)(Bioperine®) 5.00 mg *

Lutein (from 120 mg standardized 5% FloraGLO® lutein extract)(marigold flower) 6.00 mg *

Zeaxanthin (from 120 mg FloraGLO® lutein extract)(marigold flower)
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The NSI Synergy Men's Multi-Vitamin Version 2 is even more potent but you need to take 9 capsules. However, it also includes Saw Palmetto Extract , Milk Thistle, Acetyl L-Carnitine, Choline, Beta sitosterol, Green Tea Extract, Inositol, Lycopene, and Pygeum Extract.

Alphy
12-09-2006, 11:15 PM
last I'll say about it.

I know what my body needs as a strength training athlete.. B vitamins. This vitamin.. doesn't have them. Again, I say, good vitamin, just not suitable for my needs. I'm not trying to start some silly argument or say you're wrong-you are not.

Your missing the point-

YOUR vitamin can say it has 1231234123mg of B-12, but if it isnt getting absorbed into your body its worthless. For example, supposedly the physicians desk reference states that supplementation in pill, powder and tablet form is only 3-10% absorbed at best. Im not saying thats the golden guideline to live buy, im just saying that sometimes you get what you pay for. I dont see too many people in this thread talking about much more then what the label has listed as the dosage. From everything I have researched......the stated dosage is only the tip of the iceberg. Alot of these cheaper vitamins dont get absorbed.

FarEastBeast
12-10-2006, 03:36 AM
I was taking AST but after reading this I did some research and GNC Mega man has double the vitamin B!! I am going to go with GNC VIT from now on. I think vit b is very important to us bb’ers, right??? Any comments on the importance of vit b??Thanks

AST also uses synthetic vitamin E, which is basically worthless. Yes, B vitamins are very important for bb'ers. In fact, it is advisable to take a separate b-complex vitamin with a meal, say at night after taking a multi with breakfast.

ksa-muscle
12-10-2006, 05:02 AM
http://altmedicine.about.com/od/herbsupplementguide/l/bl_Quiz_multi.htm

Alphy
12-10-2006, 10:06 AM
Alphy-

A. I don't give much credibility to people who use 'your' instead of 'you're.'

B. I told you two posts above I understand your point.

C. I never said what vitamin I used, for you to assume it is a cheap one that does not get absorbed is quite callous.

D. Read FarEastBeast's post. *That* is exactly *my* point.

A. Gee, ya got me there. Thats pretty relevant. Dig'in deep for trash talkin I guess. I can spell it 'YO' if I want, doesnt change the matter at hand.

C. Funny because at the top of the same page you posted "I've recently switched to NOW Adam and have no complaints. Solid and inexpensive. If you have a solid diet, you don't need to spend heaps on your vitamin, anyway."


Here's a couple points that I came across:

*Nutrients tend to work together synergistically; more than one is usually needed. Always take appropriate amounts in correct proportion to one another.

*Avoid supplements that boast big numbers and advertise large amounts milligrams) of nutrients. Quality of nutrients, such as whole food vitamins, and plant enzymes, are more important than the number of milligrams.

*Look for 100% natural whole food vitamins.

*Look for supplements that ensure cellular delivery. If a nutrient cannot reach the affected or malnourished area, it’s practically worthless.

Thats from this page:
http://www.iweightloss.com/how_to_choose.htm

It's a good read, hope somebody finds it of interest. :)

Adam.89
12-12-2006, 09:10 AM
What do you guys think about Opti-Men?

kalagan
12-12-2006, 09:20 AM
What do you guys think about Opti-Men?

it's a very good multi imo. I took for 2 years. Now i changed for ON Super Complete Formula.

Adam.89
12-12-2006, 09:38 AM
it's a very good multi imo. I took for 2 years. Now i changed for ON Super Complete Formula.

I think I'll order them.. I was going to opt for Animal Pak, but money is TIGHT at Christmas lol

s0ulja714
12-12-2006, 10:25 AM
what about centrum?

bode
12-12-2006, 11:02 AM
Animal Pak Is Awesome. Nothing Better Imo.

Jayman30187
12-12-2006, 11:17 AM
Animal Pak of course. I don't always use the good ol Animal Pak because they get kinda expensive after awhile. I buy Vit-Alert from Wal-mart they are a new energy Vitamin I compared them to everything wal-mart had to offer for Multi-Vitamins and they win hands down. They aren't on the level of GNC Ultra MegaMan or Animal Pak, but they cost a hell of alot less and are probably better for the money.


Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 4 Tablets

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

Vitamin A (as beta carotene) 5,000 IU 100%
Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) 600 mg 1000%
Vitamin D (as cholecalciferol) 400 IU 100%
Vitamin E as (dl-alpha tocopheryl acetate) 60 IU 200%
Vitamin K-1 (as phytonadione) 25 mcg 31%
Thiamin (as thiamine hydrochoride) 12 mg 800%
Riboflavin 16 mg 941%
Niacin (Vitamin B-3 as niacinamide, niacin) 140 mg 700%
Vitamin B-6 (as pyridoxine hydrochloride) 12 mg 600%
Folic Acid 400 mcg 100%
Vitamin B-12 (as cyanocobalamin) 30 mcg 500%
Biotin 45 mcg 15%
Pantothenic Acid (as calcium pantothenate) 20 mg 200%
Calcium (as calcium phosphate, calcium carbonate) 250 mg 25%
Iron (as carbonyl iron) 9 mg 50%
Phosphorus (as calcium phosphate) 160 mg 16%
Iodine (as potassium iodide) 150 mcg 100%
Magnesium (as magnesium oxide) 100 mg 25%
Zinc (as zinc oxide) 15 mg 100%
Selenium (as selenium proteinate) 25 mcg 36%
Copper (as copper sulfate) 2 mg 100%
Manganese (as manganese carbonate) 5 mg 250%
Chromium (as chromium chloride) 25 mcg 21%
Molybdenum (as sodium molybdate) 25 mcg 33%
Chloride (as potassium chloride) 40 mg 1%
Potassium (as potassium chloride) 40 mg 1%

Silicon (as silicon dioxide) 4 mg *
Boron (as sodium borate) 150 mcg *
Tin (as stannous chloride) 10 mcg *
Vanadium (as sodium metavanadate) 10 mcg *
Nickel (as nickelous sulfate) 5 mcg *
Proprietary herbal blend consisting of: 126 mg *
Guarana (seed) extract *
Ginkgo Biloba (leaf) powder *
Panax Ginseng (root) powder *
Bee Pollen *
Gotu Kola (herb) powder *
Soy Protein powder *
Ginger (root) powder *
Lecithin (vegetable source) *
Rose Hips (fruit) powder *

surfnsailor
12-13-2006, 07:40 PM
Serving Size 2 Tablets

Beta-Carotene (as pro-Vitamin A 6 mg) 10,000 IU 200%
Vitamin C (from Calcium Ascorbate) 350 mg 580%
Vitamin D (as Ergocalociferol) 400 IU 100%
Vitamin E (from d-alpha Tocopheryl Succinate) 200 IU 670%
Vitamin K (as Phytonadione) 50 mcg 60%
Thiamine (Vit. B-1) (from Thiamine HCI) 25 mg 1670%
Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2) 25 mg 1470%
Niacin (Vitamin B-3) (from Niacinamide and Inositol Hexaniothinate) 50 mg 250%
Vitamin B-6 (from Pynidoxine HCI and Pyridoxal-5 Phosphate (P-5-P) 25 mg 1250%
Folate (as Folic Acid) 800 mcg 200%
Vitamin B-12 (as Methylobalamin) 250 mcg 4170%
Biotin 300 mcg 100%
Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B-5) (from Calcium d-Pantothenate) 100 mg 1000%
Calcium (from Calcium Carbonate and Calcium Ascorbate) 350 mg 35%
Iodine (from Kelp) 225 mcg 150%
Magnesium (from Magnesium Oxide, Magnesium Citrate and ZMA®) 100 mg 25%
Zinc (from ZinMax® (Zinc Picolinate) and ZMA®) 30 mg 200%
Selenium (from L-Selenomethionine) 200 mcg 290%
Copper (from Copper AAC*) 500 mcg 25%
Manganese (from Manganese AAC*) 3 mg 150%
Chromium (from Chromium Chelavite®) 200 mcg 170%
Molybedunum (from Molybdenum AAC*) 50 mcg 70%
Potassium (from Potassium Chloride) 50 mg 1%
Saw Palmetto Extract (Berries)(Serenoa repens)(min. 45% Fatty Acids) 160 mg †
Panax Ginseng Extract (Roots) (min. 5% Ginsenosides) 100 mg †
ZMA® 55 mg †
Alpha Lipoic Acid 50 mg †
Choline (from Choline Bitartrate) 50 mg †
Kelp (Laminaria digitala(Whole Plant) 45 mg †
Ginkgo Biloba Extract (Leaf) (min. 24% Ginkgoflavonglycerides) 30 mg †
Nettle Extract (Root) (Urtica dioica) (min. 30 ppm Socopoletin) 25 mg †
Grape Seed Extract (Vitis vinifera) (min. 90% Total Polyphenols) 25 mg †
Inositol (from Inositol Granules and Inositol Nicotinate) 25 mg †
Bromelain (2400 GDU) 25 mg †
Lipase (60,000 FCC) 12.5 mg †
Papain (2,000 USP) 12.5 mg †
Amylase (5000 FCC) 5 mg †
CoQ10 (as Ubidecarenone) 5 mg †
Lycopene (from Natural Tomato Extract) 1 mg †
Boron (from Boron AAC*) 1 mg †
Lutein (from FloraGLO®) 500 mcg †
Vanadium (from Vanadium AAC*) 100 mcg †

For all those b vitamins that say 25mg the gnc mega man says 50mg. does this mean the gnc is better?

Question? If your multi does not have iron in it you can take more than the recommended dose right? Like with 2 a days you could take 3 spread out on a hard training day?

seant313
12-15-2006, 10:37 AM
The best multi on the market that I know of is the Life Extension Mix at www.lef.org

That's what I use and recommend.
Will, I just checked out the website for LE mix. Seems like a very good product. However the form has a lot of hits for the animalpak. Have you tried that and can you compare and contrast from your experience?

Thanks
Sean

troubled
12-15-2006, 01:55 PM
animal pak is overrated IMO

adam by now foods

momotl
12-15-2006, 08:59 PM
Animal Pak Is Awesome. Nothing Better Imo.

For the ppl that is taking animal pak....how can you guys swallow 11 tablets each day and not including your other supplements. That is way too much pills to pop in. I would go with ON Opti-men where you only need 2 tabs and your good for the entire day.

EMISGOD
12-15-2006, 10:01 PM
Anyone using Higher Power Multi-XS? I'm liking that quite a lot.

tyler m
12-16-2006, 12:31 AM
Can you take Animal Pak along with Animal Pump?

bravo03_old
12-16-2006, 08:44 AM
Can you take Animal Pak along with Animal Pump?


yes

shevchenko
12-17-2006, 06:47 AM
solgar vm 2000

Cinderfella
12-17-2006, 04:20 PM
I know its kinda funny but flinstones actually work 4 me!