Ecto get's Activate™d log

[pu12en12g]

Intro:


The war against genetics.. the battle lines are drawn and you have to choose a side. There is no draft, and you have no choice... we are all active duty... we are all in the fight OF our lives... FOR our lives... every day.

The teenager is sitting on the bench wondering why all his friends are bigger, taller, and faster. The "skinny dude" secretly wonders what he's doing wrong.. he's gaining strength, but not weight. Your overweight sister has tried all the fad diets, has no appetite, and hardly eats a thing, yet she continues to gain fat...she's depressed and out of ideas. Your friend asks you for advice because every time he increases his calories, he gains fat, not muscle. Your grandfather works hard all his life to save for retirement, only to watch his body fall apart as soon as he has any free time... to ENJOY life.

My story really begins at age 19, when I decided to join the military. I was 6ft tall and 130lbs on a full stomach, and my girlfriend never complained about me being skinny, in fact the main thing that bothered me about being skinny, was that my clothes would never fit (that's how TINY I was). I had a decent appetite as a child, but I have been on my own since the age of 15, and supporting myself since the age of 16, so buying my own food probably had alot to do with it. Looking at the family album one day, I saw a photo of my dad from the 80's and he couldn't have been over 6ft 140lbs... not healthy at all... but happy. As all my cousins grew taller AND bigger, I just remained tiny and weak. I was pretty active... rollerblading, biking, etc.. but it was around this time that it occured to me, that I had ****ty genetics.

I realized that I was going to have to get in shape for bootcamp, and I was pretty freaked out about it. I almost didn't make it in, due to almost being under the minimum weight for my height. So I started doing pushups like crazy... I never considered joining a gym, because I knew they cost money. I liked the feeling of working out, and I had no real problems during bootcamp (with the exception of some dizziness).

I got out of bootcamp at around 145lbs, and my girlfriend at the time loved the gains ;) ... I'm sure that this had an affect on my subconscious mind, because from that point on I was more aware of how my stomach / abs looked. Of course, I still didn't want to "waste" my free time and money by going to the gym and "getting my muscles all sore and stuff". So I was stationed in San Diego, and all I really did for fitness was sex, pushups, and basketball. It never occured to me to watch what I was eating, but my food intake in the military was FAR better than in the past... I hit 160lbs.. and my focus stayed on my abs.. I tried some whey protein one time... it made me puke.. so "never again" I told myself. I remember one day we came back from a deployment, and my friend gave me some Yohimbe pills. He said my girl would be happy later. Holy ****... it was awesome... this is when my interest in herbs really started, and my friends and I recreationally tried stupid stuff like Eph 833 and Eph 1000... some of the Ephedra we tried didn't even have labels.. and we would go clubbing in Tijuana for 9-10 hours straight, and have plenty of energy for work the next morning !

After I got out of the military, I hit 175lb @ age 23 or 24...BUT it was NOT a lean 175lb... like many guys, I had "let myself go" during a 4 year relationship. I started actually lifting weights at least once a week and eating "right". It was around this time that I started taking whey protein, and I hit 190lb @ age 25... can we say... newbie gains ?

I was stuck at what I thought was a 190lb "plateau" for a while, and I tried things like HMB, CellTech, and Myoplex Deluxe. I tried the ABCDE diet, and I was lucky enough to try a supplement from Get Diesel Nutrition called Extreme NOS Precursor, that changed my outlook on supplements. I saw noticable changes in my body on a weekly basis, and it was easy to see / notice the growth because I was pretty lean. I switched from Myoplex Deluxe to Optimum Whey 100% Chocolate, and discovered raw oats as a ideal (and CHEAP) carb source..... this basically changed my life... I saw lean gains like I had never seen before, and soon I started Squatting, Deadlifting, and BB Benching. It was around this time that I tried what I saw as a new weapon in the war... a standalone cycle of Ergopharm 6-OXO to boost my testosterone levels... I saw strength gains, but couldn't stand the side effects... it was terrible... and I'm pissed that I wasted my $$$

I hit 225lb @ age 26, and then I made one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made.. I decided to do a "cutting phase" because my girlfriend from San Diego was coming to visit... I lost 20 lbs.. WAYY too fast. My strength went to hell too.. obviously my priorities were ****ed. During this time, I experimented with supplements, searching for the next "yohimbe" or "ephedra".. I tried things like MACA, Ginseng, ALA, NAC, 6-OXO, ALCAR, Tyrosine, Caffeine, Yohimbine HCL....

I started bulking again... and more and more, I started to focus on my routine and intensity... I was gaining mass, but not much strength... my gains seemed to be going to my stomach ! ! My libido was ****ed and I couldn't sleep ! What was wrong ? My testosterone levels initially came back in the 200 range, and slowly increased back up to the 500 range.

I hit 250lb @ age 27... during that time I was VERY fortunate to try supplements from Get Diesel Nutrition, Controlled Labs, Black Star Labs, Omega Sports, Myochem, Molecular Nutrition, Substance, Syntrax, MAN Sports, LegalGear, and others.. I was recently certified as a personal trainer, and I was offered a part-time position as a consultant and product rep for Controlled Labs... so today I'm holding steady at about 248lbs, and just like any other day... the war against genetics starts here... the war against genetics starts now....it's time to get Activate™d....

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[pu12en12g]

Supplement Facts:



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Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement, take four servings evenly spread out
throughout the day.

Warning: Women and children should not use this product. Women who are pregnant or nursing should not use any nettle product (nettle can alter the menstrual cycle).

Ingredients: Urtica dioica standardized to 70% Divanil™.

Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Gelatin, Silicon Dioxide and Magnesium Stearate.

ActivaTe™ harnesses Divanil™, an extract of stinging nettle root, to increase muscle mass and strength, and decrease bodyfat in healthy men. Most of your circulating testosterone is bound or inactive. A plasma glycoprotein called Sex-Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) binds up most of your testosterone so that it cannot exert any anabolic effect. ActivaTe™ knocks outs SHBG allowing your own testosterone to be free—and build serious muscle.


Summary:

The goal of this log, is to examine the results of Designer Supps - Activate™, for a 248lb individual that has been at a plateau for around a month, with a absolute minimum of other supplementation, and with no other changes to nutrition or routine. The final result / gains will be a objective summary of the absolute minimum someone can expect from this supplement, without"stacking", "hype", or "marketing".

Raising the bar:

It's time to set a new standard for supplement logs and reviews, for everyone's benefit. This log was NOT created to entertain you or sell you a product, it was not created for you to post your protein fart jokes, it was created to track and report progress. Make no mistake about it... sacrifices are made when doing a objective and honest review. How can someone accept a free product from Company X one day, and then go out and get trashed the next, and report.. "no gains". How can someone start 3 supplements on the same day, and determine if one of them is working ?

Make no mistake about it, there is no excuse for my current plateau to begin with, and if I say this product works... you will KNOW that this product works.

Indicators:

So.. what are some signs of a higher testosterone level ?

Primary:
Strength
Libido / spontaneous erections
Lean gains
Appetite

Secondary:
Intensity
Recovery
Feeling of wellbeing / Aggression / Sleep
Abdominal Bodyfat / Measurements
Overall Bodyfat %

[pu12en12g]

Current stats


Age: 27
Sex: Male
Height: 6ft
Weight: 248
Bodytype: Ecto


"Before" measurements:


Neck: 16.5
Chest: 46.25
Bi unflexed: 17
Bi flexed: 17.75
Forearms: 13.75
Waist: 36.5
Quads: 26.5
Calves: 17.75


1 Rep Max (1RM):

Bench: 305
Deadlift: 355
Squat: 335

Prohormone/Steroid use:
None. I did a few clean cycles of 6-OXO, which overwhelmingly is NOT considered a PH/PS/Steroid. The cycles were cut short due to unpleasant side effects around week 2-3.

Training experience:
In the last 3+ years I went from a out-of-shape 175lbs to a leaner 250lbs.

I've tried 5x5 training and liked it
I've tried MAX-OT and liked it
I've attempted Conjugated Periodization and didn't enjoy it

I made a HUGE mistake last year when I did a cutting phase from 225lbs to 205lbs, but I have since bulked back up, and broke through a 220-225lb plateau.

Training Schedule/Protocol:

5 days a week, with a 4 x 8-12 rep range. Workouts usually last around 1.5 hours.

Sun: Legs
Mon: Off
Tue: Chest / Back
Wed: Legs
Thu: Off
Fri: Chest
Sat: Back

Note: This is simply a "basic" outline that I follow.

Cardio Schedule/Protocol:


Currently 3 days a week, moderate intensity 30-60mins unless otherwise noted.

Current supplements:


Designer Supps - Activate
Controlled Labs - Green Bulge preworkout
Creapure / CEE postworkout
Black Star Labs - Whey Protein Concentrate
Multivitamin
Optimum Nutrition - Fishoil


"Budget" Diet / Macros:

http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/breakdown.jpg

Daily Constants (majority of my daily calories, making my daily totals more consistent):

Steel Cut Oats______Cals:2400__Fat:32__Carbs:400__Protein:64
1 Gallon Milk________Cals:1760__Fat:40__Carbs:208__Protein: 128
Whey Protein_______Cals:660___Fat:9___Carbs:18___Protei n:138
Bread, whole wheat__Cals:472___Fat:8___Carbs:89___Protein:19
Macaroni salad______Cals:269___Fat:9___Carbs:43___Protein:6

Typical Grocery List:
- Steel Cut oats
- Whole Grain Wheat Bread
- Skim milk
- Lean Ground Beef
- Frozen boneless Chicken breast
- Frozen Pizza
- 32oz Dupont Lowfat Yogurts
- Tuna
- Rice
- 99% fat free turkey breast
- Lean Honey Ham
- Cottage Cheese
- Tomato
- Mixed Sprouts
- Swiss and American cheese
- Potato salad
- Macaroni salad
- Tuna Helper
- Hamburger Helper
- Italian Meatballs
- Pasta / Sauce
- Manwich (Sloppy Joe mix)
- Celery
- Mrs dash seasoning
- Eggs
- Almonds
- Peanuts
- Peanut butter

Prescription/Recreational drugs: None

Supplement history:

I respond fairly well to creatine, and in the past I have tried Green Bulge, MAN Clout, Omega Thunder, NOS Ether, Swole V2, BSL Kre-alkalyn, Phosphagen, Creapure, Bulk CEE, and many other creatine products.

I respond very well to Cell Volumizers, and in the past I have used White Blood, NOS XXX, Extreme NOS Precursor, L-Arginine powder, L-Arginine Pyroglutamate Powder, L-Citrulline Powder, Ergopharm Stamino2, Carnosine, Glycerine, Ribose, Taurine, Twinlab Male Fuel, Syntrax Nitrous

I respond fairly well to stimulants/thermogenics, and in the past I have used Ready4War, Diesel Fuel Reloaded, Powertrain, ECY Stack, Tyrosine, Green Tea Extract, Nicotine 1mg Gum, Caffeine, EPH 833, EPH 1000, Ripped Fuel, Y-HCL on it's own.

Progress Photos (not current):

http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/130-243.jpg

Other logs / reviews I have done:


Whey Protein:

Syntrax Nectar - Fuzzy Navel (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=193296)
Syntrax Nectar - Roadside Lemonade (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=238720)
Syntrax Nectar - Apple Ecstacy (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=361156)
Syntrax Nectar - Crystal Sky (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=411108)
Syntrax - Isomatrix Reloaded (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=221589)
Syntrax Matrix - Perfect Chocolate (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=529549)
Molecular Nutrition - Whey Fruity (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=191283)
All The Whey - Orange (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=391929)
All The Whey - Chocolate (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=392778)
All The Whey - Vanilla (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4778188)
All The Whey - Banana (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407583)
Optimum Nutrition - Anabolic Milk Protein (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4781059)
Optimum Nutrition - Vanilla Ice Cream (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=411871)
Optimum Nutrition 100% - Vanilla (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=187168)
Dymatize - Elite Whey (Berry Blast) (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=2159812&postcount=1)
Dymatize - Elite Whey (Butter Cream Toffee) (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=3825062&postcount=2)
Dymatize - Orange Dreamsicle (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407697)
Cytosport - Cytogainer - Cookies n Cream (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4847639)
Instone - Smooth Chocolate (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=411860)
Substance WPI - Grape (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4819837)
Substance WPI - Watermelon (Original Version) (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=471064)
Substance WPI - Watermelon (New and Improved version) (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=6327032&postcount=26)
Substance WPI - Vanilla Bean (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=539908)
Black Star Labs - Watermelon Isolate (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=6168194&postcount=77)
Black Star Labs - Chocolate (WPC) (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=532918)
Black Star Labs - Orange (WPC) (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=533354)
Black Star Labs - Fruit Punch (WPC) (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=533359)



Cell volumizers:

Controlled Labs - White Blood / Green Bulge Stack (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=546842)
NOW Foods 100% Pure Glycerine (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=164581)
Omega Sports Cre-Ethyl Thunder (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=418009)
Man - Clout (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=472836)
Get Diesel Nutrition - NOS Ether (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=452267)
Syntrax - Swole V2 (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=186636)
Ergopharm - Stamino2 (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=312317)



Nitric Oxide precursors:

Controlled Labs - White Blood / Green Bulge Stack (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=546842)
Get Diesel Nutrition - Extreme NOS Precursor (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=126544)
Get Diesel Nutrition - NOS XXX (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=250500)
Cnidium (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=583493)



Fatloss / Thermogenics / Stimulants / Energy:

Myochem - Throttle 1400x (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=375899)
Get Diesel Nutrition - READY4WAR (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=383124)
KAL Fishoil (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=383827)
Get Diesel Nutrition - Diesel Fuel (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4727305)
LegalGear - Powertrain (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=539925)
Scivation - Neurostim / Neurostim C (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=562605)
Omega Sports - Powerjolt vs. Powerjolt V2 (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=565014)
Epic Nutrition - 5-Tetra (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=572308)
Nutraceutics - ProEndorphin (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=606316)



EAA's / BCAA's:

Optimum Nutrition - Superior Amino 2222 (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=400407)
Universal - Animal NitroG (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4848839)
Black Star Labs - NitroJet (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=361161)
Xtreme Formulations ICE (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=4719063&postcount=47)



Other / Specialized:

Legal Gear - Dermasize (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=321968)
Molecular Nutrition - X-Factor (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=502145)
Ergopharm - 6OXO (standalone) (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=613395)

[pu12en12g]

Day 1: Chest / Back / Arms
Cals: 5000

Dosing:

5 pills on a mostly empty stomach
5 pills with food
5 pills on a mostly empty stomach
5 pills with food

Cardio:

None

Notes:

The last few days have been pretty stressful, for reasons that I won't be discussing. Stress is one of those important variables, but not a big deal because the log just started. It should be noted that my bottle of Activate™ is "Activate Beta". Anyways, my current Bench 1RM is a very shaky 305.. and it should be noted that I don't train for strength, but I consider 1RM to be a good primary indicator. Diet was lacking today, and preworkout nutrition was not optimal.

"Before" photos:
To be updated later

[uhockey]

Will follow, my beef certainly is not with you, and I wish you the best of gains on this run.......

[dtrain13]

Good luck PT. I have no doubt you will give this an honest review despite the goings on at the moment. This seems to be a kick ass product. One that I am excited to try myself.

[Robboe]

Wow. Detail.

This is gonna be good!

[40-Yard Dash_2]

Nice intro, and we look forward to seeing where this log takes you.

[krustster]

Lol personally I'm just in it for the "before" pics :eek:

[Mr. Aries]

damn.. I was hoping you would test this product bro.. I wanted to get this but at a high bodyweight like ours, I wasn't sure about the dosage.. I guess you'll confirm it for me with this log.. THanks!

[Uber-neggR]

wow, strong log.
Definately suscribing.

Good luck, because good luck to you means good luck to me (when I buy it).

[dtrain13]

Lol personally I'm just in it for the "before" pics :eek:
LOL....:rolleyes:

[uhockey]

damn.. I was hoping you would test this product bro.. I wanted to get this but at a high bodyweight like ours, I wasn't sure about the dosage.. I guess you'll confirm it for me with this log.. THanks!

Free testosterone has little to do with bodyweight, actually.

[TENACIOUS]

subcribe........ :)

[Bammy]

Excellent log setup, good luck.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

Excellent log setup, good luck.
Thank you, I taught him everything he knows.

[C-Los 21]

Definetely looking forward to the outcome of your log pu12, hope you make the best of it and those pices better be crystal clear :).
Best of Luck,
C-Los

[CHUCK DIESEL]

sub.

[Dosquito]

Definetely looking forward to the outcome of your log pu12, hope you make the best of it and those pices better be crystal clear :).
Best of Luck,
C-Los
Yeah, this log better be in the clear, if you know what I mean.

[BiggJohn]

scribe

[pu12en12g]

Day 2: Off
Cals: 5500

Dosing:

5 pills with food
5 pills with food
5 pills with food
5 pills on a mostly empty stomach

Before photo:

http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/before_activate_1.jpg

I think I'm going to try and use a tripod for my leg shots.. so stay tuned :p

Notes: Not hitting my target cal intake so far today due to taking a nap... but I still have time tonight... I was feeling very hyper earlier... and then unusually tired.. and THEN after taking a nap, I feel very rested. Could be unrelated.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

Okay, so he really is big. I don't know, I just kinda thought that he thought he was big. Impressive for an, Ecto!

[MsDominatus]

Day 2:

Before photo:

http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/before_activate_1.jpg

I think I'm going to try and use a tripod for my leg shots.. so stay tuned :p


ahem. Uhm, I didn't realize you were so broad. I think you forgot to put your boxers on (why do guys do this?!?!).

Good luck with the ActivaTe, i'm subscribing. :)

[uhockey]

I must admit, that is extremely impressive for an all-natural ecto. Best of luck with this product PU12, even if we haven't agreed on some things recently, you truly are an impressive and invaluable member to this board and community.

[pu12en12g]

ahem. Uhm, I didn't realize you were so broad. I think you forgot to put your boxers on (why do guys do this?!?!).

ROFLZ !! I have a big ass :p ... no REALLY.. I do.. and XL / XXL boxers do fit.. except for around my quads it's a "double whammy" of ass and quads that cause a problem :( long story short.. I only wear boxers with jeans :p

[inprogress2]

Day 2:

Before photo:

http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/before_activate_1.jpg

I think I'm going to try and use a tripod for my leg shots.. so stay tuned :p


ha ha look @ u pu


dam bro thats impressive i wanna see the real b4 pics

[MsDominatus]

ROFLZ !! I have a big ass :p ... no REALLY.. I do.. and XL / XXL boxers do fit.. except for around my quads it's a "double whammy" of ass and quads that cause a problem :( long story short.. I only wear boxers with jeans :p


Good to know.

We have your kind at my gym and i've always wondered what the benefit to going commando was other than to make life interesting. Yeah i'd hate that restriction around my quads. Try boxer briefs! This is one of those moments where being a chick isn't half bad. :P

[chlaxman]

Day 2:

Before photo:

http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/before_activate_1.jpg

I think I'm going to try and use a tripod for my leg shots.. so stay tuned :p
That's some mighty good size there :eek:

Very impressive. Good luck.

[turbos10]

Subscibed.

Hey PT, with all the logs you are following you have to appreciate good pics. Is there some way you could get a more clear pic. I just think it might show the changes better.

Good Luck!

[pu12en12g]

Subscibed.

Hey PT, with all the logs you are following you have to appreciate good pics. Is there some way you could get a more clear pic. I just think it might show the changes better.

Good Luck!


Yeah I'm gonna work on that later with the tripod... I'll see what I can do. Back / leg photos too.

[suby1]

this is going to be an awesome log.

[jmil]

Suuuubscribed!...Goodluck PU, just got 4 bottles of activate in mysefl! :)

[krustster]

Yeah I'm gonna work on that later with the tripod... I'll see what I can do. Back / leg photos too.

lololl, and FLEX dammit :eek: We want to see what you got!

[Nathan1]

sweeeeet. can't wait to read this one. subscribed fo sho.

*takin notes*

[Fighting Sioux]

Suscribed

[Sam Steele]

sub.

[nick912]

Nice log setup and before pic Paul.. Do you shave your head?? Or high and tight? Looking large

[dbish77]

Nice log setup and before pic Paul.. Do you shave your head?? Or high and tight? Looking large
It's kinda obviously shaved...

[nick912]

It's kinda obviously shaved...

I will excuse your rudeness :D

[pu12en12g]

Day 3: Legs
Cals: 5700

Dosing:

5 pills with food
5 pills with food
5 pills on a partially empty stomach
5 pills with food


Notes:

I took some "cold" back photos and will upload them asap. I've never taken back photos before, so it is REALLY weird to see how my back looks... I never gave it much thought. Thankfully, I'm not here to impress anyone.. and that's a really good feeling to not care. One other random thought is that my back photos are evidence that my bi's are really lagging (my traps are too.. but I have always been aware of that). Anyways, I'm not sure how important leg shots are really going to be (vs. measurements).. but I may try and take some legs shots later, and maybe one more shot with a newspaper or something.

Not to be confused with stress, I must say that I "feel" kind of tense (for lack of a better description, and not to be confused with muscle fullness which is already pretty decent).. and I also "feel" as if I have more energy than I should (I'm finishing up a 12 hour shift)

"Cold" Back / Lat photos:

http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/before_activate_6.jpg
http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/before_activate_2.jpg
http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/before_activate_3.jpg
http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/before_activate_4.jpg
http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/before_activate_5.jpg

No, I don't know how to pose... I now realize that for a lat spread... I was supposed to flare out my arms or something.. :rolleyes:

[pu12en12g]

Nice log setup and before pic Paul.. Do you shave your head?? Or high and tight? Looking large

Thanks man.. it's buzzed :cool:

[chlaxman]

and I also "feel" as if I have more energy than I should (I'm finishing up a 12 hour shift)
I know what you mean about that. I've had the same feeling as well.

[Bammy]

Day 3: Legs
No, I don't know how to pose... I now realize that for a lat spread... I was supposed to flare out my arms or something.. :rolleyes:
You want to spread your scapula as far apart as possible with a rear lat spread. Strethching really helps, like pulling back on a bench bar and hanging from a pullup bar with an extermely wide grip. Your obviously a huge dude and your lat spead would look even bigger if you could spead those suckers a little more.

[david4zero8]

Finally seeing some recent pictures of PU. You're huge bro. Good log so far. When i ran my Beta test for ACT a couple of months back, i noticed the increase in energy throughout the day as well. I went from feeling lethargic all day long, to my mind being unusually clear. Keep up the good work.

PS: Come on PU, spread dem'Lats. lol

[uhockey]

Damned biggest ecto I've ever seen. Good pics.

[Nathan1]

where dem legs at big guy?!

[dtrain13]

OMG check out that melon!!! :D

Solid pics man.

Taking bets as to how long it takes before pappa smurf posts up some bull**** about your pics. Any takers. :D

[dbish77]

I will excuse your rudeness :D
LOL!! I read this and I didn't get it...I just got it!! hahahaha!! It's even more funny because it took me a whole freakin day to get it.

:D...that is all.

[avian]

you look buff, nice size etc

when are you cutting? im looking forward to that! imo if you can cut nicely you will look REALLY good

good luck

[Blap Blaow]

whoa- by the looks of it I've got more hair on my ass that you have on your whole oat infested humungasaurous body!!! :p

Seriously though- this is a FANTASTIC setup. You look a LOT thicker than your old pics indicate. Will refrain from posting from now on to save the log-clutter but will definately be watching!

All the best

[krustster]

Haha, bout time we actually got you to flex. It's a start.... ;)

I like the shaved head though. Looks futuristic.

[EricTheRed]

sub

[pu12en12g]

Day 4: Back / Delts / Arms
Cals: 5600

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills on a partially empty stomach


Notes:

Noticing some interesting muscle hardness / vascularity with no real explanation for it, other than the addition of activate. Strength is normal.. traps more sore than usual..stay tuned

[pu12en12g]

Day 5: Chest
Cals: 5700+

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills on a partially empty stomach
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food


Cardio:

Biking

Notes:

None

[MsDominatus]

Day 3: Legs
Cals: 5700

Dosing:

5 pills with food
5 pills with food
5 pills on a partially empty stomach
5 pills with food


Notes:

I took some "cold" back photos and will upload them asap. I've never taken back photos before, so it is REALLY weird to see how my back looks... I never gave it much thought. Thankfully, I'm not here to impress anyone.. and that's a really good feeling to not care. One other random thought is that my back photos are evidence that my bi's are really lagging (my traps are too.. but I have always been aware of that). Anyways, I'm not sure how important leg shots are really going to be (vs. measurements).. but I may try and take some legs shots later, and maybe one more shot with a newspaper or something.

Not to be confused with stress, I must say that I "feel" kind of tense (for lack of a better description, and not to be confused with muscle fullness which is already pretty decent).. and I also "feel" as if I have more energy than I should (I'm finishing up a 12 hour shift)



No, I don't know how to pose... I now realize that for a lat spread... I was supposed to flare out my arms or something.. :rolleyes:


I don't know how to lat spread either but according to sources I better learn how to truely show the definition in my back. :rolleyes: I know what you mean about not seeing your back and being a little alarmed when you see a photo - but anyways, looks great - you're a big guy considering where you came from! And until I read that you were at work I was going to question why you had a urinal in your home bathroom. :D

[TommyQ29]

[QUOTE=pu12en12g]Day 4: Back / Delts / Arms
Cals: 5600

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills on a partially empty stomach


Are you really taking 20 pills a day? The recommended dose on the bottle is 1 pill x 4 times a day. Just making sure I understand your dosing.

[pu12en12g]

Are you really taking 20 pills a day? The recommended dose on the bottle is 1 pill x 4 times a day. Just making sure I understand your dosing.

Great question... I'm taking the beta version.. which is 20 pills per day.

[uhockey]

Great question... I'm taking the beta version.. which is 20 pills per day.

Pu12 has the beta, as do all other testers. 5caps, 4x a day. The retail.....well, let's just say it will be out VERY soon. :)

[david4zero8]

And until I read that you were at work I was going to question why you had a urinal in your home bathroom. :D
It's the new rage! Don't you have one too? :D

[TENACIOUS]

Pu12 has the beta, as do all other testers. 5caps, 4x a day. The retail.....well, let's just say it will be out VERY soon. :)

Wow.......will the retail version caps contain more juice so you do not have to take so many pills? I mean 20 pills a day can break the bank.

[uhockey]

Wow.......will the retail version caps contain more juice so you do not have to take so many pills? I mean 20 pills a day can break the bank.

No, it doesnt, because the 20/day bottles cotntain 300 caps.
And yes, the concentrate in the real version is much higher allowing for much lower numbers of caps.

[pu12en12g]

Day 6: Off
Cals:5600+

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food

Cardio:

None

Notes:

None

[jkeithc82]

Now Pure, you know when you take back photos you must stand much closer to the camera then that :p

Looking great dude. :D

[TENACIOUS]

Bless you......... :) Love all your other stuff.



No, it doesnt, because the 20/day bottles cotntain 300 caps.
And yes, the concentrate in the real version is much higher allowing for much lower numbers of caps.

[pu12en12g]

Day 7: Legs
Cals:5800

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food

Cardio:

Biking

Week 1 Summary:

- Muscle Hardness
- Feel tense / uptight

[pu12en12g]

Day 8: Chest / Back
Cals:5700+

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food

Cardio:

Running

Notes:

Basically I feel like a trainwreck. 99% of the time when I get to the gym, I feel like lifting... lately I get there and I feel like curling up and taking a nap. Overtraining would be a perfect excuse, but I know my body better than that. On a positive note, the muscle hardness and vascularity are nice...

[Rage (SoCal)]

Good log so far mang. Best of luck with this run. You's a big mofo hopefully we see some results.

[GeordieArtois]

Excellent log as always, and those pics are a huge inspiration for the rest of us ecto's with ****e genetics!

I hope you get great results from Activate.

[uhockey]

Excellent log as always, and those pics are a huge inspiration for the rest of us ecto's with ****e genetics!

I hope you get great results from Activate.

I'll take your ecto "****e genetics" over my "gains fat by looking at a donut" ass any day.

[Baptizer]

Great log, pu.
Not sure if I missed it in the first few posts (I re-read them but still couldn't find it), but how many days will you be taking Activate? Did you buy 4 beta bottles?

[pu12en12g]

Great log, pu.
Not sure if I missed it in the first few posts (I re-read them but still couldn't find it), but how many days will you be taking Activate? Did you buy 4 beta bottles?

2 beta bottles, so I think that's 30 days worth... not sure.

[pu12en12g]

Day 9: Off
Cals:5500+

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food

Cardio:

None

Notes:

Lethargy and muscle hardness.. I slept for 6 hours.. got up.. and went back to sleep for another 5+ hours

[Robboe]

Lethargy's a new one. Never seen that reported before!

Are you running anything else concurrently? Or have you just come off something before starting activate?

[pu12en12g]

Lethargy's a new one. Never seen that reported before!

Are you running anything else concurrently? Or have you just come off something before starting activate?

Negative on both

[pu12en12g]

Day 10: Off / Slept almost all day
Cals:5800

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills on a mostly empty stomach
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food

Cardio:

Biking

Notes:

[turkish]

I'll take your ecto "****e genetics" over my "gains fat by looking at a donut" ass any day.
Definitely.

[pu12en12g]

Days 11-13:
Cals:5700 average

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food

Cardio:

Sprinting

Notes:

Still want to sleep all the time.. good vascularity.. no strength gains

[nick912]

nice feedback so far

[Mr. Aries]

I might be reading all this too fast and missed what I wanted to know... What are the increases in bodyweight/strength so far? Any fat loss?

[40-Yard Dash_2]

Still want to sleep all the time
*Pure smacks 40 in the face with his quote*

[nick912]

*Pure smacks 40 in the face with his quote*

Yea maybe we need to stack AcTivate with RA for the sleep huh?

[pu12en12g]

I might be reading all this too fast and missed what I wanted to know... What are the increases in bodyweight/strength so far? Any fat loss?

No strength gains at this time, and still stuck between 248-250lbs.. with improved vascularity and hardness. Really hoping to see some strength gains in the coming weeks...

[nick912]

No strength gains at this time, and still stuck between 248-250lbs.. with improved vascularity and hardness. Really hoping to see some strength gains in the coming weeks...

Go back to NOS Ether/Diesel Fuel

[PSKlifter]

great log so far big man. just wanted to comment, at your weight and current cal intake your lower abs are still looking impressively tight, especially for all natural. keep up the great work, but from now on, gotta rock a hat for your head shots ;)

[pu12en12g]

great log so far big man. just wanted to comment, at your weight and current cal intake your lower abs are still looking impressively tight, especially for all natural. keep up the great work, but from now on, gotta rock a hat for your head shots ;)

LOL.. hopefully I can rock this beanie soon:
http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/CL_beanie1.jpg

[PSKlifter]

LOL.. hopefully I can rock this beanie soon:
http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/CL_beanie1.jpg
you guys gonna put those into production soon? those could be pretty hot, especially for this season!

[jerry.]

you should get some tattoo pu. they would look cool

[nick912]

you should get some tattoo pu. they would look cool

He was in the Navy dude, he has either a Anchor or his last name tatooed on his ass :D

[jerry.]

He was in the Navy dude, he has either a Anchor or his last name tatooed on his ass :D

true.. Pu should answer that. lol

I can just picture a tribal thing on his back. I think it would look cool

[krustster]

Go back to NOS Ether/Diesel Fuel
Yeah, but none of that 12-15 rep BS this time ;)

[david4zero8]

Did pu12 get banned?

[jkeithc82]

Did pu12 get banned?

Pu12 and exfatman were banned for one day from the Guggul E & Z thread yesterday. It is a one day ban and both should be back tomorrow. :cool:

[uhockey]

Kids need to learn to play nice.......jeesh. ;)

[pu12en12g]

Days 14-16:
Cals:5900 average

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food

Cardio:

Sprinting / Biking

Notes:

Still feel like sleeping all the time... vascularity still improving.. no noticable strength gains.. but overall I feel great !

[uhockey]

Still feel like sleeping all the time... vascularity still improving.. no noticable strength gains.. but overall I feel great !

So, essentially, sleepy = feeling great? Can you expand on that thought?

[Robboe]

Updates?

[PSKlifter]

pt, your feeling sleepy on this? i noticed sustained energy even when severely sleep deprived.... please share some details on your exp when you get a chance, im sure would be appreciated by all. Thanks!

[uhockey]

Updates?
^^

[Robboe]

Have you just stopped logging or have you stopped the trial completely?

[Robboe]

Echo.

[Philly70]

I don't blame him if he did stop

[Robboe]

And why's that?

[uhockey]

I don't blame him if he did stop

Someone please ban this screenname as it is quite plainly Fighting Sioux breaking yet another rule.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

Someone please ban this screenname as it is quite plainly Fighting Sioux breaking yet another rule.
Mike, rules and regulations don't apply to Sixpack.

[Mr. Aries]

i want some updates!!!! :eek:

[Blap Blaow]

i want some updates!!!! :eek:
+1

[pu12en12g]

Days 17-22:
Cals:5800 average

Dosing:


5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food


Cardio:

Sprinting


Notes:


Still feeling outstanding overall despite stress levels being off the charts... I thought that my appetite might be increasing, but it was just a fluke I guess.. vascularity is holding steady now, getting numerous comments on vascularity... no noticable strength gains.. strength was actually down almost the entire week, but overall I feel great ! I hate cardio... but it feels better than normal.


pt, your feeling sleepy on this? i noticed sustained energy even when severely sleep deprived.... please share some details on your exp when you get a chance, im sure would be appreciated by all. Thanks!

Hey whatsup man !

Yeah.. it's pretty strange... when I get to the gym, I feel like taking a nap instead of attacking the weights... and I've actually been sleeping pretty good. Even if I get 8-10 hours of sleep, I feel like going right back to bed for more sleep... pretty crazy.

[tonutzda2@veriz]

keep up the good work PU looking good.

[PSKlifter]

Hey whatsup man !

Yeah.. it's pretty strange... when I get to the gym, I feel like taking a nap instead of attacking the weights... and I've actually been sleeping pretty good. Even if I get 8-10 hours of sleep, I feel like going right back to bed for more sleep... pretty crazy.
Damn, thats harsh......

That was my fav part of the activate, the exact opposite. Not to pimp another product or anything, but for a non stim type energy boost, on my "down" days, I combine my emergen-c w/ xtend, and actually feel pretty damn good. I respond very well to stims, I just cant keep weight with them so I avoid them. This is just a thought. Not to question your dieting, you obvisoulsy know your $hit, but what does your preworkout nutrition look like anyway?

[pu12en12g]

Days 23-24:
Cals:6000+ average

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food

Cardio:

Sprinting


Notes:

Finally (and easily) hitting my target calorie intake thanks to egg rolls, turkey, stuffing, and other excellent "home cookin".. but the only thing worth noting workout-wise is the insane vascularity while at the gym. I don't remember ever seeing veins like this when bulking.

[pu12en12g]

what does your preworkout nutrition look like anyway?

This is pretty typical for me:


2 hours preworkout: Solid food meal (this often includes 5 caps of Activate)

1 hour Preworkout: Green Bulge

Preworkout: Whey + Carbs

Workout: 3 liters of water

Postworkout: Whey + Carbs

[Fighting Sioux]

PU are you taking any stims preworkout?And has your BF went up a whole lot beings you are sort of clean bulking?

[pu12en12g]

PU are you taking any stims preworkout?And has your BF went up a whole lot beings you are sort of clean bulking?

1) No stims preworkout, to avoid skewing the results during the log / review

2) No, my bodyfat is not going up

[Fighting Sioux]

Very nice 6k cals and no BF increase.. must me those damn sprints

[pu12en12g]

Days 24-30:
Cals:5800+ average

Dosing:

5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food
5 Pills with food

Cardio:

Sprinting


Notes:

Vascularity holding steady, and I'm still impressed with it.. specifically during my workouts. Otherwise, nothing worth noting unfortunately. :( I still feel like sleeping all the time. I basically look forward to it.

[pu12en12g]

Final thoughts:


Like most herbal testosterone products, I feel that Activate™ is probably best used during a cutting phase. I was personally bulking during this review, and I couldn't really care less about vascularity at this point (but I am impressed with the improvement). I was hoping for some noticable strength gains / aggression / libido improvement.. to really indicate that I was "on" something. Many of you can probably relate to this desire.

I was pretty shocked at how much I wanted to sleep (constantly basically) when on Activate™ so I highly recommend combining it with a stim for best results.

Indicators:


Primary:

Strength: Minor improvement
Libido / spontaneous erections: No change
Lean gains: TBD
Appetite: No change :(

Secondary:

Intensity: Very minor improvement
Recovery: Minor improvement
Feeling of wellbeing / Aggression / Sleep: Moderate Improvement
Abdominal Bodyfat / Measurements: TBD
Overall Bodyfat %: TBD

[Fighting Sioux]

Great job PU

[nick912]

very good ending..

[Dimitar]

ActivaTe did even less for me, except the feeling of well-being on day 3. Diesel Test is much, much better.

[BiggJohn]

Think I'll hold off on ActivaTe for now, nice log PU.

[uhockey]

Think I'll hold off on ActivaTe for now, nice log PU.

And that required 3 posts?
And ONE person has mixed results, so you hold off?
And this log was nice?
..............
Can I refer you to some of the well kept logs?

[Blap Blaow]

And that required 3 posts?
And ONE person has mixed results, so you hold off?
And this log was nice?
..............
Can I refer you to some of the well kept logs?
heh- you're making me laugh tonight :)

please don't hurt me

[Mr. Aries]

i think Activate holds a lot of promise.. I think PU might just not be responding to it well.. i also plan to use it sometime in the near future..

It's true PU got some mixed results.. But what are people expecting? Natural BBers are lucky to gain 12 good, lean lbs per year.. THat's a rate of 1lb a month or so.. Any improvement after 1 month is good improvement to me, I would hope no one jumps the gun and not purchase this product because of this..

Innovative products such as this deserve everyone to give it a shot and find out for themselves.. I remember the head of Designer Labs from a long time ago.. long time ago.. He's always been a bright mind and always brought great supps to the market..

[david4zero8]

And that required 3 posts?
And ONE person has mixed results, so you hold off?
And this log was nice?
..............
Can I refer you to some of the well kept logs?
uhockey you really seem to be on the defensive for some reason lately. Is everything ok with you?

I'm not making excuses for the person above, but there has been severe server problems here on bb.com the last couple of months. In a couple of threads i've made duplicate post myself. He can always go back and delete the extra post.

[Mister_A]

And that required 3 posts?
And ONE person has mixed results, so you hold off?
And this log was nice?
..............
Can I refer you to some of the well kept logs?
I got a good log.
My results have been great. :D

[BiggJohn]

And that required 3 posts?
And ONE person has mixed results, so you hold off?
And this log was nice?
..............
Can I refer you to some of the well kept logs?

Not my fault it posted it 3 times, this board has it's share of mechanical problems.

Phosphate Bond and Big Cat have raised some interesting questions that I'd like to research first. I'm surprised you or Robboe haven't replied.

[BiggJohn]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=642919

[pu12en12g]

And this log was nice?
..............
Can I refer you to some of the well kept logs?

while xxghostxx and UnlikelyToad of MAN did a FINE job on their respective NHA reviews, pu12's other logs were FAR superior to his ActivaTe log and Aeternatis's log of ActivaTe hasn't exactly lived up to it's potential either


WOW

I'm shocked at these comments...

I'm shocked that you are comparing 2 Activate logs with 2 Activate + ATD logs...

in fact I'm shocked that the log didn't live up to your expectations. I'll see if I can think of anything to add. :(

I guess I better stick to positive comments only, so that my log can be considered "well kept"

[uhockey]

WOW

I'm shocked at these comments...

I'm shocked that you are comparing 2 Activate logs with 2 Activate + ATD logs...

in fact I'm shocked that the log didn't live up to your expectations. I'll see if I can think of anything to add. :(

I guess I better stick to positive comments only, so that my log can be considered "well kept"

Just seemed like you were really tired and down from outside causes, but the log kinda made it seem like it was our product's fault. Given the timing of the log coinciding with the lawsuit talk and the RA horse****, I know for a fact that people questioned the quality of this log.

Be honest, do you really think the updates were as thorough as some of your past logging attempts?

O/T: Due to my issues today with the nutrabolics item I've switched back to my original plan of running my (admittedly long overdue) Green bulge log as part of my ongoing bulking log. As you'll see, I plan to be 100% fair and update just as much as I've been with my other items.

[inprogress2]

wow

[Nathan1]

wow is right...somehow i expected this to happen though...:rolleyes:

edit: nice log PU12, i enjoyed it and am definately considering buying the product in the future based on numerous logs.....i don't understand why uhockey thought this log displayed negativity. :eek: looks good from here. were you expecting him to gain 10 lbs. LBM and fock the squat rack? looks solid.

[Dimitar]

WOW

I'm shocked at these comments...

in fact I'm shocked that the log didn't live up to your expectations. I'll see if I can think of anything to add. :(

I guess I better stick to positive comments only, so that my log can be considered "well kept"



Of all the products you have tested and kept logs on, Activate is the only one [if memory serves me well] you did not respond the way you were "expected" to. Therefore, your log did not quite live up to someone's "expectations." It's not about the details, it's about the fact that your results were not the laundry list of benefits in the product's write-up.

That was a good log and if I were you, I wouldn't take any of those remarks personally. Those remarks, however, greatly amplify my reluctance to ever test a company's product and keep a log. There are those "expectations."