I'm 23. - Halodrol and/or Novadex good/bad

[DerekSPL]

Hey all,
So I'm 23 and I have been lifting hard and consistently since May '07. During this time I have cleaned my diet, and tried supplementing with a couple NO boosters, vitamins, protein, intra/post workout supps. etc.
Currently I am using a Controlled Labs Stack: (White Flood, Purple Wrath, Green Mag) along with ON 100% Whey and a good diet.

I have gained some strength but I have only put on about 5 pounds and not very much mass.

I need something to kick-start my mass-building capabilities (if I have any). Would halodrol and/or novadex xt be beneficial to me? Am I too young?

[DerekSPL]

anyone?

[TPD01883]

Halodrol from what I understand is a ProHormone to a steroid called "oral turinabol" OT itself isn't the strongest steroid out there(I have never taken it so this is just what i've heard). If you want to "kick start" your mass building then this might help a little. But without a proper diet and training routine, and post cycle therapy, any gains you make will dissapear over the next few weeks / months anyways.

Also what version of halodrol are you considering? "Halodrol Liquigels" arn't a prohormone or prosteroid from what i understand. If you're looking for real halodrol(precursor to OT) i'd check out H-drol from competative edge labs.

Another thing to contemplate is that h-drol isn't the greatest mass builder out there. If you're really looking to pack on a lot of mass quick, superdrol and clones, and pheraplex and clones are probably the two favorites. Both of these will be best when followed with a post cycle therapy that uses a SERM though, any PH/PS/AAS is best when followed by that, but I think there are some hormones which are not as suppressive and you can get away without using a SERM. Another popular one is Havoc/Epistane. I took havoc myself and loved it. It was very dry and my gains were almost purely muscle.

Next question Are you too young? You are 23, the general consensus on this forum is 21 is the minimum age anyone should be using hormones.

This isn't going to 'kick start' gains per say. Running a hormone cycle will give you some killer gains, but as soon as you stop the hormone the killer gains will stop. And for several weeks your bodies natural testosterone will be extremely low creating a less than anabolic environment where you'll be losing some of the mass / strength you just gained and it will be several weeks before you're back to normal again, and even then you will only gain as fast as you did before the cycle unless your diet / training improved during the 8 weeks you were on/ in pct.

Do you have any sort of ancilliary plan for your cycle? Liver support, blood pressure etc.

Lastly, Think about how committed you really are to building your body up. Are you ready to sacrefice the next 8 weeks of your life to true dedication and abstain from substances?

[TPD01883]

also about the novadex. I don't really know what this is, but I do know it is not "nolvadex" the perscription SERM used to treat brest cancer and allso used illicitly in bodybuilding to block estrogen receptors in the Hypothalamus and breast tissue after / during a cycle of anabolic steroids. If i had to guess i'd guess that it is an aromatase inhibitor of some sort. Stacking this with h-drol would be pretty pointless as h-drol is already non aromatizing and will suppress natural test and estrogen levels anyways.

If you do plan to run a cycle, first decide which hormone you want to run, which company you're going to get it from, build up an ancilliary plan and a dosing plan for both the hormone and your PCT. Post it here again, although this isn't relaly the appropriate section and i think you'll find people will be more likely to critique it, as right now it looks like you want someone to just hand you a bunch of answers. Feel free to PM me with any further questions you have.