INBF and others...drug free means?

[bryce126]

I'm a little confused about what's allowed and what's not allowed for natural federations. I know theyre all a little different, but are NHA stacks okay? I'm talking products like:

X Factor
Activate
Hyperdrol
Mass FX
Regensen
etc.

Basically, are AI's and natural test boosters okay? or does natural mean no supplementation whatsoever? (besides amino acids, multi's and protein powder and creatine)

[wnbfwarriorpro]

I'm a little confused about what's allowed and what's not allowed for natural federations. I know theyre all a little different, but are NHA stacks okay? I'm talking products like:

X Factor
Activate
Hyperdrol
Mass FX
Regensen
etc.

Basically, are AI's and natural test boosters okay? or does natural mean no supplementation whatsoever? (besides amino acids, multi's and protein powder and creatine)

(Effective 1/1/07)

The following substances and related compounds are banned by the International Natural Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation (INBF) and their use constitutes grounds for dismissal from INBF Competitions and suspension from membership privileges in the organization for a period of seven years from the failure date. This list is effective January 1, 2007.

ANABOLIC STEROIDS. All Anabolic Steroids, including but not limited to bolasterone, boldenone, chioroxomesterone (dyhdrochlormethyltesterone), clostebol, fluoxymesterone, mesterolone, methandienone, methyltestosterone, nandrolone, norethandrolone, oxandrolone, oxymetholone, stanozolol, testosterone and all other related compounds, are strictly banned.

TESTOSTERONE (injections, patches, gels) in any form or for any reason, even if under a doctor?s prescription.

TESTOSTERONE/EPITESTOSTERONE RATIO. The T/E ratio is used to measure the presence of exogenous testosterone, or illicit elevation of testosterone levels. A T/E ratio in excess of 6/1 is ruled as positive, no matter what the cause. Note: Should the use of any substance cause an elevated T/E ratio in excess of the 6/1 limit, the athlete will be ruled as positive (failure).

GROWTH HORMONES (PHARMACEUTICAL HGH, HCG and any other related compounds). Oral, spray or sublingual GH compounds of pharmaceutical origin are banned effective January 1, 2001.

HORMONES, PROHORMONES AND ALL PRECURSORS & METABOLITES, DERIVATIVES & RELATED COMPOUNDS. The use of any hormone (injectable, oral, sublingual or otherwise) for bodybuilding purposes ? including insulin ? is prohibited.

?All hormonal precursors (DHEA, androstenedione; 19-norandrostenedione; androstenediol; 5-AD; 7-KetoDHEA; androstene-TRIONE; 17-androdione; etc.) are banned effective January 1, 2000. (Includes Novadex, Superdrol, Halodrol, Methyl-1, etc.)

?All other additional hormonal supplements (6-OXO; 6-OXO-androstenetrione; 2a,17a-dimethyl-17?-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one; 3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene; 1,4,6-androstatriene-3,17-dione; 3-Alpha (5a-androstane-3a,17b-diol); etc.) have been identified as prohormonal in nature as of January 1, 2004, and are banned effective January 1, 2004. (Includes Novadex, Superdrol, Halodrol, Methyl-1, Forza-T, etc.)

?Fat-Burning Prohormone Derivatives such as 3,17-dihydroxy-delta-5-etiocholane-7-one (A7-D), and 3,17-dihydroxy-delta-5-etiocholane-7-one diethylcarbonate (A7-E) are banned effective January 1, 2007. (Includes Hot Rox, Fahrenheit, etc.)

NOTE: The compound 7-Keto DHEA is no longer banned for use effective 6/1/07.

?Pro-Steroids are banned as of January 1, 2000. They are marketed as not being prohormonal, but they ARE. (Includes 1-Test, etc.)

?Prescription Thyroid Hormone Medication when used for bodybuilding purposes is banned.

?The presence of any banned substance in the urine (i.e., nandrolone, etc.), no matter how it arrived, is ruled as a positive (failure).

NOTE: Any athtletes who are NEW to the INBF, MUST NOT HAVE USED ANY PROHORMONES for AT LEAST TWO (2) YEARS before joining the INBF for the FIRST TIME!

NOTE: BE SURE TO CHECK ALL INGREDIENTS LISTS OF SUPPLEMENTS BEFORE USING THEM! (E-mail questions to inbf@epix.net.)

PRESCRIPTION DIURETICS. Any and all prescription weight-loss substances and diuretics used for bodybuilding purposes, even when physician-prescribed, are banned by the INBF.

EPHEDRINE, EPHEDRA AND ALL RELATED COMPOUNDS are banned effective July 1, 2004.

NOTE: Any athtletes who are NEW to the INBF MUST NOT HAVE USED EPHEDRA for AT LEAST SIX (6) MONTHS before joining the INBF for the FIRST TIME!

PSYCHOMOTOR STIMULANTS such as amphetamines, speed, cocaine or other stimulants when used for bodybuilding purposes.

MUSCLE IMPLANTS OF ANY KIND are strictly prohibited. BREAST IMPLANTS for females are not banned.

CHEMICALS/DRUGS FOR THE PURPOSE OF DECEIVING OR PASSING THE POLYGRAPH OR URINE TEST.

CLENBUTEROL AND GHB (since 1992).

ANY ILLEGAL OR ILLICIT BODYBUILDING DRUG OR SUBSTANCE AS DECREED BY U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.

ANY FDA-BANNED SUBSTANCE, EXCEPT IF SPECIFICALLY OTHERWISE INDICATED.

ANY IOC- OR WADA-BANNED SUBSTANCE, EXCEPT IF SPECIFICALLY OTHERWISE INDICATED.

[Cape1]

I'm a little confused about what's allowed and what's not allowed for natural federations. I know theyre all a little different, but are NHA stacks okay? I'm talking products like:

X Factor
Activate
Hyperdrol
Mass FX
Regensen
etc.

Basically, are AI's and natural test boosters okay? or does natural mean no supplementation whatsoever? (besides amino acids, multi's and protein powder and creatine)

You really have to read through each organizations rules. And it's not that easy. For example, I don't think any organization Bans natural test boosters like Tribulus for example. That said, in the improbable (perhaps impossible) event that your Trib caused your T-ration to exceed the prescribed threshold, you would be diqualified even though the substance was not banned. You're really better off not taking anything because most of the Natural stuff, even most PH/PS, aside from making your wallet loose weight, are not going to do all that much for you - esspecially for a 20 yo, and will only risk you being banned.

[liftjunkie06]

Depends on the organization. You should contact them with questions. Some are only steroids and prescription diuretics, others are more strict.

But, IMO, people should have the integrity to not use anything that is questionable. It shouldn?t be about cheating the system or pushing the limits, because you?re really only cheating yourself and future competitors. It should be about coming in with your best attainable conditioning, and doing so solely through hard work and dedication.

I?d say if you question it, don?t take it.

[Cape1]

Liftjunkie,

Reps! Well said.

I'll be honest, while I've never taken any steroids, I've looked for the easy way out in the past with some of these natural supps. My experience is that they are over-rated. So, not only would one be cheating the system, they would be doing it without much, if any, potential gain!!

[bryce126]

thanks very much guys, and I hope the hyperdrol mass FX stack i just finished won't bar me from any organizations i wish to compete in... :(

[wnbfwarriorpro]

Depends on the organization. You should contact them with questions. Some are only steroids and prescription diuretics, others are more strict.

But, IMO, people should have the integrity to not use anything that is questionable. It shouldn?t be about cheating the system or pushing the limits, because you?re really only cheating yourself and future competitors. It should be about coming in with your best attainable conditioning, and doing so solely through hard work and dedication.

I?d say if you question it, don?t take it.

Very well said!

[graphlex]

Kind of off the topic, but I saw this question on another natural forum and thought it might get answered here,"Does a "brand name" legal supplement list for INBF exist? I see the banned list at http://www.inbf.net/drugfree.html, but translating between that list and ingredient lists can be challenging. Specifically can anyone comment on the il(legality) of MHP's Dren and Hydroxycut Hardcore?" Any help would be appreciated.

[wnbfwarriorpro]

Kind of off the topic, but I saw this question on another natural forum and thought it might get answered here,"Does a "brand name" legal supplement list for INBF exist? I see the banned list at http://www.inbf.net/drugfree.html, but translating between that list and ingredient lists can be challenging. Specifically can anyone comment on the il(legality) of MHP's Dren and Hydroxycut Hardcore?" Any help would be appreciated.

Both are legal in the INBF/WNBF.
There isn't a specific brand that the INBF endorses, but if the product is advertised in Natural Bodybuilding & Fitness magazine, it is approved for use in competition. If you have any questions about a supplement, check with the INBF before using it.

[graphlex]

Thanks Rich. I relayed the information and advised the competitor to go with the products advertised in the magazine to ensure being safe on the polygraph and urinalysis. I'll do the same as I have been contemplating a return to the INBF stage next year. Congratulations on your new position with the INBF/WNBF. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Signed, The Mystery Competitor.

[MattyH7688]

i dont see havoc on there

[Ricky_k]

i dont see havoc on there
lol ?

[MattyH7688]

lol ?

whats funny.. i dont see a lot of hormonal products on there, so ppl could take it and not fail

[graphlex]

There is a section of "HORMONES, PROHORMONES AND ALL PRECURSORS & METABOLITES, DERIVATIVES & RELATED COMPOUNDS" so you have to look at the product's ingredients and check the list. They list mostly ingredients at the site not products (though a few are mentioned). "2a,17a-dimethyl-17?-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one" is listed as banned and "2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol" is listed as Havoc's active ingredient. I'm no chemist but it would seem like a product worth asking the organization about if you plan on competing with them.

[MattyH7688]

There is a section of "HORMONES, PROHORMONES AND ALL PRECURSORS & METABOLITES, DERIVATIVES & RELATED COMPOUNDS" so you have to look at the product's ingredients and check the list. They list mostly ingredients at the site not products (though a few are mentioned). "2a,17a-dimethyl-17?-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one" is listed as banned and "2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol" is listed as Havoc's active ingredient. I'm no chemist but it would seem like a product worth asking the organization about if you plan on competing with them.

oh i agree, i would defiantly ask the organization about any questionable products before actually taking them

with all the random designer steroids out there, its really hard to catch them all..