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John Prophet
11-11-2007, 06:05 PM
if im training a kid for power cleans etc in a regular commercial gym with regular plates...and dropping the bar is out of the question, lol...how much of a hindrance is that going to be?

J.L.C.
11-11-2007, 07:04 PM
If it's just power cleans, you're probably fine without bumpers.

Just be sure to teach him how to 'catch' the bar in the crook of the hips so that he can lower the weights safely when they get heavier down the road.

John Prophet
11-11-2007, 07:16 PM
yeah, sort of catch it on the thighs etc

The only "oly" lift I currently do is jerks behind the neck...I love those things, lol. But one does have to learn how to drop it and catch it on the back etc because u aint gonna do a slow negative with that weight

Lavoisier
11-11-2007, 10:57 PM
Yeah btn jerks, and drop snatches-How do you get that weight down? I mean seriously...

J.L.C.
11-12-2007, 07:25 AM
Yeah btn jerks, and drop snatches-How do you get that weight down? I mean seriously...

I basically drop it from the top, and then jump up to meet the bar with my traps then absorb the weight with my legs.

At the end of the set I drop em (bumpers), but you can lower a drop snatch to the hips, with a BTN jerk, lower it to shoulders first, then hips.

Marc27Default
11-12-2007, 12:37 PM
To lower a behind neck jerk I do a slight bend of the knees to decrease the distance the bar is to the ground. Then I start a controlled negative with my arms and re-straighten my legs to get my body closer to the bar again. After my arms can't restrain the bar any more I let it fall to my shoulders (i.e. traps like a back squat) and rebend my knees to cushion the weight. Then I walk it into a squat rack. I am not a strong kid for my power, e.g. I can't atg front squat over 260 or military press over 180 but I have done a 286 behind neck jerk and lowered it in this method. I usually avoid dropping the weight to the ground if I can but you have to be prepared to drop if necessary. You should always be ready to miss for the sake of safety.

usufruct
11-16-2007, 10:35 AM
I'm 40 years old and new to the snatch; I've only been at it for about 3 months. The gym I train at has no bumpers and does not allow the dropping of the weights. In the hang power snatch I'm now using a weight of 145 lbs and have only missed the lift once. When I missed I just lowered the weight behind my head to my shoulders. My training is obviously hampered because I can't push myself, and I'm unsure about how to learn to do a full squat snatch because if I miss in the bottom position I don't think I can do anything other than dump the weight. Pretty soon I think I'll have no choice but to buy some bumpers and a bar and train in my driveway.

tman0307
11-19-2007, 03:30 PM
Wow, at my high school, we just use regular weight plates...and we drop them all the time

Kiknskreem
11-19-2007, 03:45 PM
Wow, at my high school, we just use regular weight plates...and we drop them all the time

I'm sure your equipment reflects that.

The quality of the hardware in weightlifting makes a big difference.

John Prophet
11-19-2007, 06:01 PM
To lower a behind neck jerk I do a slight bend of the knees to decrease the distance the bar is to the ground. Then I start a controlled negative with my arms and re-straighten my legs to get my body closer to the bar again. After my arms can't restrain the bar any more I let it fall to my shoulders (i.e. traps like a back squat) and rebend my knees to cushion the weight. Then I walk it into a squat rack. I am not a strong kid for my power, e.g. I can't atg front squat over 260 or military press over 180 but I have done a 286 behind neck jerk and lowered it in this method. I usually avoid dropping the weight to the ground if I can but you have to be prepared to drop if necessary. You should always be ready to miss for the sake of safety.

hehe..for behind neck jerks I basically just power drop it to my neck/traps and absorb the hit with my knees etc. I dont even bother with trying to do a negative because it just hurts too much, lol

but ive only done like 225 max

tman0307
11-22-2007, 09:17 PM
I'm sure your equipment reflects that.

The quality of the hardware in weightlifting makes a big difference.

yeah, for one, half the weights are chipped, and all of the bars are bent. it sucks

tatortotajigalo
11-22-2007, 09:40 PM
can someone show me a btn jerk?

partymonster975
11-23-2007, 06:51 PM
btn split-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oF9eVSMjMGg
btn power-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wou9Xbsz***

rogan181
11-27-2007, 11:46 AM
if im training a kid for power cleans etc in a regular commercial gym with regular plates...and dropping the bar is out of the question, lol...how much of a hindrance is that going to be?

id say get yourself a lifting mat, those nice mats that you can drop non bumper weights onto, we jsut got some at my school and theyre really nice...it all deepends on how much your student can do though without droppign it, sometimes if i **** up on a clean ill have to drop/throw it or else itll fall on me and crush my knees or something, so you should be aware of that