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ScAggS
06-30-2005, 08:58 PM
This is my first M1t cycle; however, i have been BBing and training for quite sometime and i have run 2 1/4ad cycles and Fizogens On/Off Cycle. So i stocked up before the ban and am finally getting the chance to give it a go.

Im starting the thread a little late as i just registered to the forum, but here goes.

My plans are to run a 3 on 3 off 2 on 4 off cycle - i know odd cycle but its due to vacations and work schedule. Ive been running a 5 day lifting regimen (chest, back, shoulders, arms, legs) for the past 8 weeks however i am kind of changing it up due to work, before that i ran a 3 day split 4 days per week for 6 months, so i am basically gunna mix it up and try to hit it real hard and real heavy for the next 12 weeks. I am currently taking the Nitro Tech/ Cell Tech stack as well as Glutamine and Legal Gear cold fusion NO2.

I will be running Legal Gear m1t 10/20/10 (because the biggest gains and absorption are made during week two from what i hear-plus i had a buddy who ran the same cycle with great results). I will also be running Legal Gear LGP 4ad+ at 8 squirts (4 morning then 4 12 hours later). I am taking hawthorne berry for BP, Saw Palmetto for prostate, and Milk Thistle for the liver on and PCT. PCT i plan to run Legal Gear Formadrol V2, 6-0X0, Trib, and Trib (Dont know where to get Nolva besides one site and im slightly sketched out about ordering it haha)

Stats:
5'5"
weight: 147 (gym scale in the afternoon-same setting evertime i weight there)
BF: 8.3%
Bench: 155 for 8
Dead: 225 for 8
Squat: 245 for 8
Leg Press:500 for 10
Tri P down: 170 for 10

Diet: (meat at the meals varies but its usually chicken, tuna, salmon, or steak) - All shakes are with skim milk. m1t will to breakfast and last meal when i switch to 20mg.

9:00- 2 scoops Nitro Tech, Banana, Multi - 4 squirts 4derm
9:30-10:15- cardio (cut back from 4 days a week to 2 and i play tennis on the weekends)
10:45- 2 whole eggs 6 egg whites, 2 pieces whole wheat toast, milkthistle, HB, SP
1:00- 1 scoop Nitro Tech shake
2:00- 1 1/2 chicken breast, 1 cup brown rice, Veg, 10mg m1t
2:30-5g Cell tech
3:00- Lift
4:30- PWO 5g Cell Tech, 2 Scoops Nitro Tech shake, 10g Glutamine
6:00- Non-fat yogurt, string cheese, 2 tbsp PB and Banana
7:30- Dinner - usually chicken, steak, or fish with 1 cup brown rice and salad or veg.
9:00- 4 squirts 4derm
10:00- either PB & J with casien shake or 2 cups cottage cheese and peaches.

I started the cycle Monday 6/27 (well pre-loaded the first m1t pill sun night)

Mon a.m. home weight 143 Afternoon Gym weight 147.8 Chest
Tue a.m. home weight 143 Afternoon Gym weight 148.7 Back/Trap/Hams
Wed a.m. home weight 144 Afternoon Gym weight 149.9 Shoulders/Quads
Thur a.m. home weight 147 Afternoon Gym weight 153.2 Arms/Calves

I do abs 4 times per week, cardio will be cut to two 45-60 min running sessions and tennis on the weekend when i get a chance.

So Far I am definetly looking full and pumped most of the day, Shoulders and chest definetly look bigger already. I am def holding in water from the 4derm (probably the majority of the weight i have gained so far) but as long as i still have the 6-pack i am happy. No loss of libido, no kidney pain or headaches...YET, no acne, and no nipple soreness. Only thing so far is the lethargy which hasnt been too bad since i am taking the 10mg with my pre-workout meal. Plus i typically feel lethargic when im not running a therm or EC supp.

This log is basically to give others an insight on Legal Gears product since i couldnt really find a whole lot of research on it, also on a 3 week cycle, and for me so i have somewhere to keep track of my cycle and get some feed back from fellow builders. Hey with all the legal gear supps shouldnt i see some LG love eDogg?? haha j/k. Any advice, feedback on other 3 week cycles, LG M1T results, and motivation would be great.

ScAggS
06-30-2005, 08:59 PM
I can probably gain fine natty, but i am one of those stubborn people who likes to see immediate results. Plus i have been stuck at a plateu since this spring so hopefully this will help me bulk up. As far as my size situation goes my legs are much larger than my upper body, i have been making good gains over the past 2 years; however, it is still noticable that i dont have much of an upper body compared to my legs. Hopefully this cycle will allow me to beef up my upper body (i didnt get much out of my other PH cycles due to diet and too much cardio)

Over the past year i have changed my routine 3 times. I have gone from chest/back, arms, shoulder/traps, and legs regimen to back/trap/hams, Chest/ Bi/ Calves/, triceps/shoulders/quads, then recently i switched to chest, back/traps, shoulders, arms, legs. I have always lifted 4-5 times per week. Right now work is making it hard to get in alot of time at the gym thats why i switched to the 5 day routine allowing me to get in and out quicker.
This is what it looked like this week, all up from last week.
chest -
abs- rope crunch 120x25, rev crunch x25, side bend board
Bench Press - 115 x 15 warm up s.s. DB pullover w/55
125x12
135x10
145x8
160/125 x 6/6

Flat Bench Fly - 25x12 s.s Incline DB Press - 35 x12
30x10 45x8
35x8 45x8
40/30x6/6 55/40x6/6

Cable x-over- 60 x12 or Hammer strength Bench 178/108x5/7
70x10 158/108x6/6
80 x8 138/108x7/7

Weighted Dips - 25x12
35x10
45x8


Back/Trap/ Hams-
abs-bike crunches 80/70/60, crunches 30/25/20, torso twist machine, Pull ups

Pull Down - 112.5 x 12 s.s. Leg Curls- 100x18
125 x 10 110x15
137.5 x 10 110x15
162.5/112/5 x 5/7 120x12

Dead Lift - 135 x15 s.s T-bar row- 40x12
185 x12 45x10
205 x 10 45x10
225x8 50x8

Barbell Row- 85x12 s.s Preacher Bar shrugs-135x18
95x10 145x15
105x8 145x15
120/105/85x4/5/6 155x12

DB row - 55x10 s.s Good Mornings- 85x15
60x8 95x12
60x8 105x10

Dumbell Shrugs - 60x15 s.s. low pulley Row - 112.5x12
70x12 125x10
80x10 137.5x8

Depending on how i feel sometimes i will also hit the Hammer strenth back machine or finish up with chins. I also usually substitute in Pull Down behind the neck and low back extensions every other week.

Shoulders/quads
Abs- decline sit ups with 25lb weight, hanging leg raises, side bends, push ups

DB press - 40x12 or Military Press
45x10
50x8
55/35x6/6

Squats - 135 x 15
185x12
205x10
225x10
245x8

Bent over lat raises- 25x12 ss Front Raises- 20x12
30x10 25x10
35x8 30x8
40/25x6/6 35/20x6/6

Seated Lat raises-15x12 ss Rear delt db shrugs-45x20
20x10 50x18
25x8 55x15
30/25/20x4/4/5 60x12

Upright Row- 65x12 or cable lat raises
75x10
85x8
95x6

leg ext- 100x12 ss Leg Press-360x18
110x10 410x15
120x10 450x12
130x8 500x10

if i can still walk i will do 3 sets of hack squats or 3 sets of front squats

rear delt machine- 80x12
90x10
100x8

Arms/calves-
abs-leg ext, cross crunches, rev crunches, side bend board

Barbell Curls- 50x12
60x10
60x8
65x6

skull crushers-50x12
55x10
60x8
70/50x 5/7

Alt DB curls-25x12 ss CGB- 105x15
30x10 115x12
30x8 120x10
35/30/25/20x3/4/5/6 125/95x8/7

Tri pdown-110x18 ss toe presses-360x20
120x15 410x15
130x12 410x15
170/150/130/90x4/4/4/8 410x15

Preacher Curl- 50x12 ss seated calf raises-90x18
60x10 100x15
65x8 100x15
65x8 110x12

seated Hammer curls-25x8 ss rope pdown-80x12
25x8 90x10
25x8 100x8

Concentration Curls-15x10 ss smith calf raises-180x15
15x10 200x12
15x10 220x10

Bench Dips- 45x15
70x12
80x10
90/70/45/no weightx5/5/7/10

This week i played tennis monday for 2 hours-i ate an apple and pbar as well as regular diet while playing. tues ran for 45 min, wed ran for 30 min walked for 60, today i ran for 30 min. Tomorrow is a completely off day (i work a double-12 hours...no fun, no time for exercise...thank god i can still eat all day long.)

ScAggS
06-30-2005, 09:01 PM
Oh yeah forgot to mention the 2on 2off isnt def yet, i will make that call towards the end of the first PCT.