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TheZenMachine
06-18-2005, 11:20 PM
I was training 1 on 1 with Frank Shamrock today and asking him about his training. He said he does High Intensity Training. He says he trains 2 or 3 times a week, very basic and pretty much with barbells maybe 30-45 minutes. He says he does basic exercises like deadlifts, squats, cleans, pullups... He also says he does conditioning through sportspecific bodyweight exercises (not like pushups and stuff) but with grappling oriented movements. He also said he hates running because it's hard on the joints...You want those when you're older!
Anyway, it was great getting private training from the man!
Kane Fan
06-22-2005, 07:08 PM
ask him if I can make him a better program...
TheZenMachine
06-22-2005, 08:09 PM
I doubt there is anything better.
He's strong, fast, flexible, great conditioning....I mean, what else is there?
Kane Fan
06-22-2005, 09:12 PM
there are programs better then HIT
believe me
TheZenMachine
06-23-2005, 11:07 AM
I don't know, I've done the WSB, various periodizations schemes... A lot of stuff and they usually just take more time with less results. So I agree with Frank and it obviously hasn't hurt him at all, so I'm pretty confident in the approach. It's also been my experience that, with the exception of very few (like 1 or two) the guys with the biggest mouths espousing these WSB approaches and the like are usually always as weak as kittens. It seems to me that when you take away the steriods and the highly gifted (who will do well on anything), it's the guys who stick to the basics that get the best results.
Wait thats the UFC guy, right? He sucks now.
TheZenMachine
06-23-2005, 11:48 AM
You're thinking of Ken, not Frank.
I poop to much
06-23-2005, 12:09 PM
Did he say anything about his fight with Cesar Gracie?
TheZenMachine
06-23-2005, 03:33 PM
Yes, he said he is fighting him on October 1st and that he's going to kick his ass. One of the fighters who was also having lunch with us said that Cesar isn't a fighter, and Frank said, "He is now!"
StevieSparkZ
06-24-2005, 12:24 AM
hey zen machine, are u in the san jose cali area? cuz im about 8 mins from his new school in zanker im thinkin of goin there, whats ur thoughts on him as a teacher and is he there often?
TheZenMachine
06-24-2005, 04:47 AM
No, I met him through my manager who was holding an event that Frank came to. Frank said he is gone a lot, but I know he does teach when he's there. I think he'd be a great guy to train with full time, he invited me out there to train and I'll definitely take him up on that. I've always been a jiu-jitsu guy, but Franks take on grappling is a very different perspective. I've rolled with a lot of top jiu-jitsu guys, but I think Frank was the best grappler I've ever rolled against. Definitely worth training with.
ssj4deadpool
06-24-2005, 09:56 AM
frnak shamrock has AMAZING CARDIO, is flexible as hell, and was the first mma fighter to show the importance of conditioning.
Kane Fan
06-24-2005, 10:33 AM
I don't know, I've done the WSB, various periodizations schemes... A lot of stuff and they usually just take more time with less results. So I agree with Frank and it obviously hasn't hurt him at all, so I'm pretty confident in the approach. It's also been my experience that, with the exception of very few (like 1 or two) the guys with the biggest mouths espousing these WSB approaches and the like are usually always as weak as kittens. It seems to me that when you take away the steriods and the highly gifted (who will do well on anything), it's the guys who stick to the basics that get the best results.
some Periodization programs are quite basic
I'm not as weak as a kitten
but I also wouldn't really recomend straight WSB or straight Powerlifting at all for an MMA
I think you could wind up with some strength imabalances that would wind up getting you injured
swiftpaws
06-24-2005, 04:22 PM
Frank Shamrock is a girl.
smokeater
06-25-2005, 02:58 PM
Just remember that Frank Shamrock knows what works best for Frank Shamrock. Just because it works for him doesn't necessarily mean it will work for you. Few guys in MMA train exactly the same way. They've all found workouts that suit them as athletes and what suits their styles.
TheZenMachine
06-25-2005, 03:19 PM
True, but look at it this way, if I'm working 60 hours a week and training MMA 6 days a week, there is only so much time to get in weight training. That and HIT has given me the most success.
Kane Fan
06-26-2005, 12:52 PM
that's a busy ass week
TheCrazyCossack
06-26-2005, 04:22 PM
Frank Shamrock eh..... in the original post you said this
". He says he does basic exercises like DEADLIFTS, SQUATS, cleans, pullups"
Hmmm this whole thread seems like BS seeing as how he has broke his back twice, and doesnt do squats or deadlifts.
Heres the quote from Frank Shamrock himself.
"Frank Shamrock: Unfortunately, I've broken my back in two different places, so I can't do deadlifts or weighted squats anymore. Even so, I don't recommend that my guys do deadlifts and squats because of the structural trauma that it puts on you. "
This is the source.
http://www.athletes.com/fun/mahler9.htm
an interview with Frank Shamrock.
How much other stuff are you lying about?
Vindicated
06-27-2005, 12:00 PM
zenmachine, if you do know frank, tell him he needs to get back in the ring full time again asap.
TheZenMachine
06-27-2005, 04:31 PM
I can only tell you what he told me. If you want a script of how basically the conversation went, I asked,"Frank, what do you do for weight training?" He replied,"I think lifting is very important, but I think it's only good for injury prevention. When I lift I don't do low reps, I do high intensity training, 2 or three times a week."
I asked what kinds of exercises he recommends, and I told him I do squats, deadlifts, pullups, and dips. He replied, "Yeah, I do squats and deadlifts, but I also do a lot of conditioning exercises with bodyweight for grappling."
We also talked about a lot of conditioning stuff, which is when he said he doesn't run because it's bad for the joints.
At any rate, yeah I have seen that before. I don't know how accurate it was, in terms of quotes, or maybe he changed things up for himself and does things differently now, any number of things. But that is what he told me.
TheZenMachine
06-27-2005, 07:18 PM
I doubt he'll consider getting back in the ring full time. He is fighting Cesar Gracie on October 1st, though. He is involved in a lot of small business stuff. He is also starting a new MMA team because the guys he trained with Javier Mendez and Crazy Bob left him for a contract with someone else. I'm planning on going out to San Jose this fall, most likely.
Not that it necessarily proves anything, but if you go to www.kopromotions.com Jeff Ford is my muay thai coach and manager, he introduced me to Frank. If you click on the Art of War photo gallery, Frank Shamrock was there. The following day I trained with him in KC. Also you can go to www.kcfightnews.com my screen name is JayBrandon, I thank him the day after for the training.
BreakinChains
06-27-2005, 08:40 PM
Frank is in great shape but dont forget my man Randy Couture. His program kicks butt.
TheCrazyCossack
06-28-2005, 02:05 PM
Couture sure does kick butt... I wish I could get in his fighting camp lol.
smokeater
06-29-2005, 12:01 AM
Frank is in great shape but dont forget my man Randy Couture. His program kicks butt.
What separates Randy Couture from everybody else is the fact that he is the only MMA fighter I know of, who has achieved real success, whose diet is Alkeline (sp?) based. I remember reading the foods he eats and my goodness does this guy eat a lot of greens. There are a lot of Pride/UFC fighters in their 20's who only wish they could be in as good physical condition as Randy is. And I certainly don't need to tell the bodybuilders on this board how important nutrition is.