View Full Version : How do i produce raw strength?
jason.barbosa
10-05-2007, 09:53 PM
Hey im new to this..i was just wondering how can i produce real raw strength? i don't want to get big bulky muscle i just want raw strength..i heard isometrics were good..any ideas?
icyballa901
10-05-2007, 09:55 PM
if you want strength you will need to lift big. try using the 5x5 strength method. it worked for me.
Bravodor
10-05-2007, 09:57 PM
Big weights low reps.
I used to be abnormally strong for my size because I would let my ego get in the way, and I would load up more than I could for 8-10 reps.
I could only get 4-5
To this day my tris are overdeveloped from extremely heavy weighted dips, I can close grip (4 inchs between hands) 175-180 pounds for 3x8
This ment I was getting stronger, just not growing as quickly.
Eventually your strength gains pan off, and you have to actually start building more muscle not just density and strength.
jason.barbosa
10-05-2007, 10:29 PM
cool thanks..im doing martial arts too so what do u think about functional strength training?
Dom_88
10-06-2007, 04:01 AM
cool thanks..im doing martial arts too so what do u think about functional strength training?
I personally feel that raw strength can be built in the gym. That strength then becomes functional as it's used in your chosen sport, in your case it's martial arts.
Kung Fu boy
10-06-2007, 08:07 AM
yeah...well...maybe so..yeah okey:P
anyways, of course it depends on the art... .I mean if you're going wing chun you won't be needing those big and strong biceps anytime soon right:P?
jason.barbosa
10-06-2007, 08:22 AM
yeah true im doing jkd..but im not looking for bulk im just looking for strength
heatwave13
10-06-2007, 08:45 AM
Agree with the low reps, heavy weight method. When I was competing in Olympic style lifting, I had to stay in the same weight class while getting strong. We would perform several sets of only 3 or 4 reps (with about 80-85% of our 1 rep max).
CycloneCoach
10-06-2007, 11:09 AM
Definitely low reps. 3- 5 range. Higher reps are for hypertrophy, which is muscle pump. Heavy weights, low reps, but not quite a max. If your doing martial arts you don't want to beat up your muscle. Just stimulate don't anhialate. With my wrestlers I like to pair up a power exercise, such as a squat with a plyo such as box jumps. Creates explosive power and is good conditioning.
roman25
10-06-2007, 01:19 PM
YEah the heavy weights low reps methid works i did that and i gained just strength and no weight change you got to also look at your diet to but it wont look like a problem for you and there will be a point when you can only get so string at a given wieght and need to increase that muscle size in order to get stronger like one of the guys up there said.
Iron7
10-06-2007, 07:06 PM
try this not for the faint of heart
clean and press your 78% rm 100 times.
Do one rep rest for 5-10 secs as needed and hit another rep till you get a 100.
roman25
10-06-2007, 09:23 PM
try this not for the faint of heart
clean and press your 78% rm 100 times.
Do one rep rest for 5-10 secs as needed and hit another rep till you get a 100.
lol i know i would be sore the next day if i did this. HAve you tired doing this yourself. and if so wha twere the results and how sore were you
vanasten
10-06-2007, 10:55 PM
try this not for the faint of heart
clean and press your 78% rm 100 times.
Do one rep rest for 5-10 secs as needed and hit another rep till you get a 100.
I am just curious, what is the benefit of doing 100 reps over say 5-6 sets of 2-3?
If the guy wants to increase strength without inducing too much hypertrophy, wouldn't it be best to minimize time under tension? Also, risk of injury as fatigue sets in would be quite significant.
Iron7
10-07-2007, 07:54 PM
lol i know i would be sore the next day if i did this. HAve you tired doing this yourself. and if so wha twere the results and how sore were you
haha my traps were sore but i only did it 50x it takes a lot on ur energy and plus my form was getting bad and i didnt want to get an injury
Iron7
10-07-2007, 07:57 PM
I am just curious, what is the benefit of doing 100 reps over say 5-6 sets of 2-3?
If the guy wants to increase strength without inducing too much hypertrophy, wouldn't it be best to minimize time under tension? Also, risk of injury as fatigue sets in would be quite significant.
ur not really do 100 reps in a row. ur doing 1 rep resting for a little (getting the creatine stores back) and then busting out another rep.
its something to do once in a while to shock the body but u gotta do a lift ur used to...it dosent have to be clean/press...could be deads or squats.
irishjack923
10-07-2007, 10:16 PM
raw strength = bodyweight exercises like PULLUPS, chinups, dips, pushups, etc
look at monkeys , they r so strong because they lift their bodyweight around all day up on trees n ****.
also gymnasts have incredible strength from wat they do
carlwolfslair
10-27-2007, 10:09 PM
stregth training is usually 3 reps for 3 sets with close to max rep. i do this kinda training for thai boxing to build explosize speed power and strength. I use deadlifts power cleans (alternating from day to day iether single are dumbbells or barbells) chin ups and dips also like overhead presses over bench press for upper body strength standing not sat down for core strength i then add core training for abs turkish get ups sit ups wieghted on ball and russian twists. If i want to gain more strength when reaching a platue i go to 5 x 5 with the same wieght as for 3 x 3 sometimes add squats but my main strength training is dead lifts overhead press and power cleans with weights then body wieght plus wieghts for dips and chin ups. anything else i do in the gym is just for fun!
In martail arts heavy bag work builds strength speed and and power falling press ups jumping knees to chest single arm push ups single leg squats ect.
see there main site has some great articles on core training martial arts training and strength training see specically the stuff on kettle bells and the 3 x 3 programme very good articles
j0nnyc92
10-28-2007, 12:25 AM
yeah i agree with irishjack. look at guys in the army or marines. theyre strong as hell. all they do is pull ups, sit ups and push ups and other exercises where they use theyre own body weight. theyre not insanely big cause who would want that out of a soldier your just a bigger target but theyre still strong enough to be soldiers
nightrain36
10-28-2007, 01:21 PM
How to get raw strength? You get born...it's in your genetics