Question about competing

[Leoharo996]

Hi everyone..im new to the board and theres a lot of useful info here and every one seems friendly

I have been training off and on in the gym since I was 16 and now im 23 and I would really like to compete in the new england area since im from Massachusetts

my question is about selecting an organization and testing

I have pretty much been lifting without any supplements ever since I started at age 16..but I made the mistake of using anadrol (for a duration of about a month or so)...about 2 years back..and went back to straight natural weighttraining

what are my options for organizations based on my situation?

any help will do...I wasnt really sure where to post this messege..so if this gets moved..I understand

thank you

[DriverDan]

Most natural orgs require at least 5-7 years drug free. You'll probably have to go untested.

[Fjock]

Most natural orgs require at least 5-7 years drug free. You'll probably have to go untested.

lol, he said he did about a month of anadrol 2 years ago. And thats all hes ever done. You will be fine competing in just about any natural org out there bro. Dont listen to this. The only thing competing in a untested org is going to do is put you up against competitors who have more than likely been juicing a good portion of that year and likely all the way up to the contest date. Cuz thats pretty much the only chance they have of winning with all the juiced up competition out there.

Driver, are you even a competitive bodybuilder? This is someone very new to this and looking to do his first contest.. thats terrible advice. Basically advising him to feed himself to the lions and embarrass himself on stage to the point where he would likely not want to compete again. One month of anadrol 2 years ago would give him absolutely no edge if he were to compete in a natural org, especially when thats all hes EVER done. believe me, you will find people doing natural comps with MUCH worse juice histories than this, pretending to be natural.

Leo, you can find a good list of natural shows to do here http://www.liftforlife.com/competitioncalendar.htm

[ChokeOnStrength]

Where I do agree with a lot of this and disagree with the rest... that is not a matter. I'll just say one thing. I just competed in my first show a few weeks back, and it was an open contest, untested... yet I have not once used an illegal substance and or steroids or PH. Etc... I decided to jump in with the lions, just so I would be motivated to work that much harder for next time where I'll compete in a tested and natural organization, for good. It only motivated me.. I dont think it really matters where one starts, so long as they are starting for themselves, for their own reasons and motives. Other then that, have fun bro, you should be more then good to go, specially if its been over a year for most natural orgs from what I hear. But read up on a few natural orgs policies. That'll help

[Fjock]

Where I do agree with a lot of this and disagree with the rest... that is not a matter. I'll just say one thing. I just competed in my first show a few weeks back, and it was an open contest, untested... yet I have not once used an illegal substance and or steroids or PH. Etc... I decided to jump in with the lions, just so I would be motivated to work that much harder for next time where I'll compete in a tested and natural organization, for good. It only motivated me.. I dont think it really matters where one starts, so long as they are starting for themselves, for their own reasons and motives. Other then that, have fun bro, you should be more then good to go, specially if its been over a year for most natural orgs from what I hear. But read up on a few natural orgs policies. That'll help

I agree with that bro. One thing i forgot to look at was leo's weight... So the diff from a tested to an untested show isnt nearly as dramatic as it would be to a heavyweight like myself. but either way... this guy belongs in a natural show for his first run.

[DriverDan]

lol, he said he did about a month of anadrol 2 years ago. And thats all hes ever done. You will be fine competing in just about any natural org out there bro. Dont listen to this. The only thing competing in a untested org is going to do is put you up against competitors who have more than likely been juicing a good portion of that year and likely all the way up to the contest date. Cuz thats pretty much the only chance they have of winning with all the juiced up competition out there.

Driver, are you even a competitive bodybuilder? This is someone very new to this and looking to do his first contest.. thats terrible advice. Basically advising him to feed himself to the lions and embarrass himself on stage to the point where he would likely not want to compete again. One month of anadrol 2 years ago would give him absolutely no edge if he were to compete in a natural org, especially when thats all hes EVER done. believe me, you will find people doing natural comps with MUCH worse juice histories than this, pretending to be natural.

Leo, you can find a good list of natural shows to do here http://www.liftforlife.com/competitioncalendar.htm
Do you even know how most natural orgs test? They use a polygraph. They ask if you have ever used any of the banned substances. Lie and you're banned from the org. He could do urine tested shows but those are still going to be full of guys who have used steroids. They just have to stop using them before the show. Obviously he'll probably get eaten alive at an untested show. That's beside the point.

[Leoharo996]

damn....u guys are awesome...thanks...im so glad that I can compete some way even though I juiced a while ago

the thing that really scared me about some competitions I was lookin to compete in..was the testing..some said they even put people on a polygraph?

whats up with that??

[Agostage]

damn....u guys are awesome...thanks...im so glad that I can compete some way even though I juiced a while ago

the thing that really scared me about some competitions I was lookin to compete in..was the testing..some said they even put people on a polygraph?

whats up with that??

The shows I do they test everyone with the polygraph, then if you win you get urine tested. It's fine with me IMO. Although they do charge you the 40 bucks for the test, on top of the registration, and INBF card. ugh.

[Leoharo996]

The shows I do they test everyone with the polygraph, then if you win you get urine tested. It's fine with me IMO. Although they do charge you the 40 bucks for the test, on top of the registration, and INBF card. ugh.


i know i can pass the urine..but with my lil anadrol usage 2 years ago...that would pretty much kill my poly test???

[DriverDan]

i know i can pass the urine..but with my lil anadrol usage 2 years ago...that would pretty much kill my poly test???
Unfortunately yes.

[Leoharo996]

then where can I find a list of competitions that dont do the poly but urine tests.

To be honest..I dont wanna compete in the "untested" comps..unless that is my last case scenario.

I wanna be in a "tested" competition but one without a polygraph.

I dont think my little usage of anadrol 2 years back should hinder any of my chances of competing.

I really wanna compete...Ive been working hard and I dont want it to go to waste.

Help?

[wnbfprowww]

Most natural orgs require at least 5-7 years drug free. You'll probably have to go untested.Driverdan i tottaly understood where you was comming from, personally i would welcome him in a natural show, because he did so little, but rules are rules, i hate it when guys have abused roids and then come into a natural show, all i can say is they must really suck, and people do it all the time,i have nothing against people who use the stuff, just stay in the nontested show, i support all bodybuilders. a good friend of mine is a ifbb pro and somewhere around 1993 or so he claim that all the pros had to start training natural because they will be testinig, i almost fell of my chair with laughter. you were basically saying if this guy wanted to compet and be honest he would have to do a nontested show. why diet for month and fail a poly test....i have seen it and it's not pretty. just my 2 cents. (life time natural pro)

[niiick]

just beat the poly :D

[TCannon]

I dont think its really a question of weather or not you could pass the poly or drug test, its more of a question if your morals will allow you to compete against people who just may be lifetime naturals regardless of how breif your steroid use was. Although im sure there are people who I will compete against who have used I really could care less since if I beet them that will be a even greater victory than if it were a lvl playing field. I just think that there are enough untested shows for people who have used to compete in, why try natural comps?? But oh well, if people are that morally jacked then so be it, I embrace the challenge.

[Fjock]

I dont think its really a question of weather or not you could pass the poly or drug test, its more of a question if your morals will allow you to compete against people who just may be lifetime naturals regardless of how breif your steroid use was. Although im sure there are people who I will compete against who have used I really could care less since if I beet them that will be a even greater victory than if it were a lvl playing field. I just think that there are enough untested shows for people who have used to compete in, why try natural comps?? But oh well, if people are that morally jacked then so be it, I embrace the challenge.

You dont seem to be grasping the fact that his 1 month of anadrol a couple years back will literally give him no edge in a natural comp. Go do some research on the steroid boards and ull find out just how long the gains from a 1 month oral only cycle will stick with you lol. Point is, this guy going into a natural show WILL still be a level playing field. I would understand if this guy had done a full cycle a couple years ago including test and the whole nine.. but that simply isnt the case here. He obviously wants to have a shot at winning . I dont understand how someone can diet the way we do for 10-20 weeks and not wanna have a legitimate shot at winning. This man is not "morally jacked", he belongs in a natural comp.

[DriverDan]

Driverdan i tottaly understood where you was comming from, personally i would welcome him in a natural show, because he did so little, but rules are rules, i hate it when guys have abused roids and then come into a natural show, all i can say is they must really suck, and people do it all the time,i have nothing against people who use the stuff, just stay in the nontested show, i support all bodybuilders. a good friend of mine is a ifbb pro and somewhere around 1993 or so he claim that all the pros had to start training natural because they will be testinig, i almost fell of my chair with laughter. you were basically saying if this guy wanted to compet and be honest he would have to do a nontested show. why diet for month and fail a poly test....i have seen it and it's not pretty. just my 2 cents. (life time natural pro)
I agree. I see no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to compete as a natural but unfortunately rules are rules.

[Jrich54338]

I remember for my first show a guy in my gym was training for the same show I was, even was in the same weight class, I had him through the whole contest prep, last 2-3 weeks he blew up and came in ultra ripped eventually beat me. His weapon of choice ANDRO. But that pushed me to be where I am today, you keep getting knocked down, but you get right back up with more power and a stronger additude.

[TCannon]

You dont seem to be grasping the fact that his 1 month of anadrol a couple years back will literally give him no edge in a natural comp. Go do some research on the steroid boards and ull find out just how long the gains from a 1 month oral only cycle will stick with you lol. Point is, this guy going into a natural show WILL still be a level playing field. I would understand if this guy had done a full cycle a couple years ago including test and the whole nine.. but that simply isnt the case here. He obviously wants to have a shot at winning . I dont understand how someone can diet the way we do for 10-20 weeks and not wanna have a legitimate shot at winning. This man is not "morally jacked", he belongs in a natural comp.

I dont care if this cat took them for one day. If you took them for any amount of time and compete in a organization that says you have to be clean from 1- whatever years then you are wrong. Its not a matter of what physical impact it has on his body, but more of what it says about the strength of your moral fiber. The rules are the rules man. Besides if this guy manages to win but fails the poly (and he may very well fail since hes thought about it enough to post a question about it and will be nervous) then he will hae to sit out from competeing in any natural org for awhile. Why not find a org with a shorter drug free period.

[Leoharo996]

Why not find a org with a shorter drug free period.

i understand rules are rules...and im not one to want the comps to bend it for me...

I just wanna know where I can find a list of comps that

1: only does urine test

or

2: have shorter drug free period

or last case scenario

3: untested




thanks guys

[wnbfprowww]

i understand rules are rules...and im not one to want the comps to bend it for me...

I just wanna know where I can find a list of comps that

1: only does urine test

or

2: have shorter drug free period

or last case scenario

3: untested




thanks guysi wish you the best in your search, i think you said your from mass, if you doing a comp in the area let me know i will come check you our.

[Leoharo996]

i wish you the best in your search, i think you said your from mass, if you doing a comp in the area let me know i will come check you our.

awesome..thanks


damn..people are awesome on the boards

[njmuscle66]

lol, he said he did about a month of anadrol 2 years ago. And thats all hes ever done. You will be fine competing in just about any natural org out there bro. Dont listen to this. The only thing competing in a untested org is going to do is put you up against competitors who have more than likely been juicing a good portion of that year and likely all the way up to the contest date. Cuz thats pretty much the only chance they have of winning with all the juiced up competition out there.

Driver, are you even a competitive bodybuilder? This is someone very new to this and looking to do his first contest.. thats terrible advice. Basically advising him to feed himself to the lions and embarrass himself on stage to the point where he would likely not want to compete again. One month of anadrol 2 years ago would give him absolutely no edge if he were to compete in a natural org, especially when thats all hes EVER done. believe me, you will find people doing natural comps with MUCH worse juice histories than this, pretending to be natural.

Leo, you can find a good list of natural shows to do here http://www.liftforlife.com/competitioncalendar.htm


Will it give him an edge NO. Will he be able to pass a lie detector test. That would depend. Urine tested organizations like the USBF he would be fine. But some individuals who have used anabolics in the past have to be conerned whether they would be able to pass a lie detector

[njmuscle66]

[QUOTE=DriverDan;84001733]Do you even know how most natural orgs test? They use a polygraph. They ask if you have ever used any of the banned substances. Lie and you're banned from the org. He could do urine tested shows but those are still going to be full of guys who have used steroids. QUOTE]


Exactly correct

[Fjock]

Will it give him an edge NO. Will he be able to pass a lie detector test. That would depend. Urine tested organizations like the USBF he would be fine. But some individuals who have used anabolics in the past have to be conerned whether they would be able to pass a lie detector

eh, im an NPC guy myself. He would be fine doing one of their natural shows. Only need a year clean or somethin like that

[njmuscle66]

eh, im an NPC guy myself. He would be fine doing one of their natural shows. Only need a year clean or somethin like that

yes NPC is only one year as well.

fjock-was the philly show an NPC show or USBF. I did the NPC Philly Classic in 06

[Fjock]

yes NPC is only one year as well.

fjock-was the philly show an NPC show or USBF. I did the NPC Philly Classic in 06

NPC bro, all ive really done...