Best Overall Protein Bars?

[The Brotherhood]

I'm looking for a good protein bar, which can act (when needed) as a meal replacement, and since I'm on a cut, I don't want it filled with sugar, or stuff like that... I'd prefer about the same amount of carbs related to protein... anybody got any suggestions?

what kind of macros are you looking for

[Complex757]

WOW!!..I just had a "bite"of an Xyience Bar, and I dont think you can get a worse tasting bar than that!!..Jeuss, it tastes like cardboard, and dust!..ewww, the flavor taste like dried up berries, I feel bad for all humans who had to taste that bar...I DE-recommend them, if youve never tried em...

Yep, cardboard and dust. I got some banana nut on sale at GNC. Worst tasting protein bar I've ever had. I couldn't eat the whole thing it was so bad, left it alone for a couple of hours and came back to it and it was hard as a brick :(

[gdogg75]

Sustain bar. The "sugar" is from raw honey, the glycemic index is medium, the balance is good, and the taste is great. 300 cals each of 100% natural ingredients, healthy fats, carbs, and quality proteins.
good stuff... but "subjectively" speaking(of course) how does it taste? sometimes i eat a bar... and it feels like i'm eating a dry log :)
i guess in the morning i am gonna find one and just find out-

[Jake2458]

Are Powerbar's any good?

[uhockey]

good stuff... but "subjectively" speaking(of course) how does it taste? sometimes i eat a bar... and it feels like i'm eating a dry log :)
i guess in the morning i am gonna find one and just find out-

Read the reviews......you'll not be disappointed. Nothing dry about it. :)

[The Brotherhood]

Don't refrigerate the Sustain bars. At room temperature, they taste amazing, with a slightly cake-like texture. PB is my favorite flavor.

And take it from me that they taste good - I dislike uhocky's possession of this thread and the way he strikes down every bar and over and over again suggests DS bars instead, but the DS bars are so good that I overlook it and pimp them anyway

[uhockey]

Don't refrigerate the Sustain bars. At room temperature, they taste amazing, with a slightly cake-like texture. PB is my favorite flavor.

And take it from me that they taste good - I dislike uhocky's possession of this thread and the way he strikes down every bar and over and over again suggests DS bars instead, but the DS bars are so good that I overlook it and pimp them anyway

ZI is good too.

And I like my Sustain Bars out of the fridge. :)

[Konflict]

I've got 'bout thirty more pounds to lose. Could I use bars as a meal replacement? Everything I see is high in calories..

[uhockey]

I've got 'bout thirty more pounds to lose. Could I use bars as a meal replacement? Everything I see is high in calories..

Sustain bar is relatively low, and quite good for satiety.

Broccoli + Chicken is much lower in calories, and much better for society.

When cutting, protein bars generally aren't the best choice.

[Boxer_07]

Sustain bar is relatively low, and quite good for satiety.

Broccoli + Chicken is much lower in calories, and much better for society.

When cutting, protein bars generally aren't the best choice.

It is true that when cutting, protein bars are not the best option, but if you had to pick between not eating anything for 4 or so hours while on the go and eating a bar that would provide the necessary protein to sustain the anabolism in your muscles, I would rather choose the bar, while compromising a bit of fat and sugar calories.

Also, uhockey, I like how you support your product so much in this thread, however, it is a major conflict of interest to conclude that your companies bars are superior to everything else. There are surely better bars that exist among the hundreds of options, especially given that everyone has different goals.

[ZDub212]

Sustain bar is relatively low, and quite good for satiety.

Broccoli + Chicken is much lower in calories, and much better for society.

When cutting, protein bars generally aren't the best choice.

I agree but...society?


Also, uhockey, I like how you support your product so much in this thread, however, it is a major conflict of interest to conclude that your companies bars are superior to everything else. There are surely better bars that exist among the hundreds of options, especially given that everyone has different goals.

I don't think it's a major conflict of interest...he stands behind his product, and he is firm in his beliefs. I think that there MIGHT be better bars out there than Sustain for SOME people's goals IE bulking = VPX ZI, More Fiber = PBL Omega...and there MIGHT be other good low carb bars out there for people on low carb diets...but I see nothing wrong with Uhockey's promotion of one of the BEST protein bars (If not THE best for total package) on the market today.

[Boxer_07]

Zach...i assume you must feel labrada bars are better though right?

[reaper55]

VPX zero impact for sure for meal replacement!! or for a snack I like WW pure protein.

[dvsness]

I miss my bars. :(

[uhockey]

It is true that when cutting, protein bars are not the best option, but if you had to pick between not eating anything for 4 or so hours while on the go and eating a bar that would provide the necessary protein to sustain the anabolism in your muscles, I would rather choose the bar, while compromising a bit of fat and sugar calories.

Also, uhockey, I like how you support your product so much in this thread, however, it is a major conflict of interest to conclude that your companies bars are superior to everything else. There are surely better bars that exist among the hundreds of options, especially given that everyone has different goals.

I disagree with your assessment of better than nothing. No food for 4 hours is not going to make you drop an ounce of muscle.....it takes FAR longer to deplete glycogen in the liver and muscles. Do a little reading.

Conflict? No. Not at all. I stand behind what I support and what I had a hand in making come to light. I'm no mere rep....I was DIRECTLY consulted before we decided on these bars. IMO, they are the best bar on the market, hands down.


I agree but...society?

I don't think it's a major conflict of interest...he stands behind his product, and he is firm in his beliefs. I think that there MIGHT be better bars out there than Sustain for SOME people's goals IE bulking = VPX ZI, More Fiber = PBL Omega...and there MIGHT be other good low carb bars out there for people on low carb diets...but I see nothing wrong with Uhockey's promotion of one of the BEST protein bars (If not THE best for total package) on the market today.

Yes, society. Show me one instance where poeople would be better off with a processed product (even minimally) over a nice piece of lean meat and fibrous veggies.

as for the Bar....fiber should be obtained from whole foods and personally, I think our product is superior to those other options.


Zach...i assume you must feel labrada bars are better though right?

I hope not.....they do taste good, though.

[jslee21]

I decided to try the VPX ZI Bar in Pumpkin Supreme once more even though my first one was awful. This one was totally different than my first one and was not dry and crumbly. I must have gotten a bad/old bar the first go around. I really enjoyed it and would definately buy it again. I still have yet to try the DS Bar which also sounds good, I just have to find a place to buy a single bar before I decide which to buy a box of. :)

[BOOSTEDDUDE]

I'm loving Cliff Builder peanut butter bars - yumm-o-la! ^^Ditto. I always eat MOJO bars peanut butter w/ 10g protein 210 cal, no trans fat, and low clycmic -whatever that is. The MuscleMilk bars I've had are good also. Zone perfect are also quite tasty in choc peanut. Great little mini meals.

[ZDub212]

Yes, society. Show me one instance where poeople would be better off with a processed product (even minimally) over a nice piece of lean meat and fibrous veggies.

as for the Bar....fiber should be obtained from whole foods and personally, I think our product is superior to those other options.

Ahh ok, I was unsure of what you meant.

As to the question...do I think Labrada bars are the best on the market?

NO.

Just because I'm a rep, that doesn't mean that I'm a walking zombie and a walking ad for Labrada...I don't operate that way.

[uhockey]

Ahh ok, I was unsure of what you meant.

As to the question...do I think Labrada bars are the best on the market?

NO.

Just because I'm a rep, that doesn't mean that I'm a walking zombie and a walking ad for Labrada...I don't operate that way.

Good man. :)

[zkid002]

So, I bought 2 Xyience Bars about 2 weeks ago, and from the first bite of each, they were the worst bars I had ever tasted. I went straight for the garbage, but didnt want to waste money sooo quickly. So I threw em in a draw, and days later, I started taking bites. It was still nasty, and I put them away. Every day since then, ive been taking little bites of it, (because I like the Macros of the bar) and I seem to have grown to live with the taste. Now since I can handle eating them, would you say its fine to eat these bars?..what do you think about the ingredients/nutrition facts?...heres the link, thanks!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/xy/xstart.html

[IrockZ]

damn i miss protein bars.. havnt had one in over a month.. after this cut a box of sustain vanilla almond is going to meet its fate.. along with alot of other ****. lol

[ZDub212]

So, I bought 2 Xyience Bars about 2 weeks ago, and from the first bite of each, they were the worst bars I had ever tasted. I went straight for the garbage, but didnt want to waste money sooo quickly. So I threw em in a draw, and days later, I started taking bites. It was still nasty, and I put them away. Every day since then, ive been taking little bites of it, (because I like the Macros of the bar) and I seem to have grown to live with the taste. Now since I can handle eating them, would you say its fine to eat these bars?..what do you think about the ingredients/nutrition facts?...heres the link, thanks!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/xy/xstart.html

It's a high quality bar, no question about it.

[The Brotherhood]

I love the Xyience banana nut bars. People think i'm crazy, but I love em

[uhockey]

damn i miss protein bars.. havnt had one in over a month.. after this cut a box of sustain vanilla almond is going to meet its fate.. along with alot of other ****. lol

Nice. :) Don't use our bars as a cheat meal!! :D


I love the Xyience banana nut bars. People think i'm crazy, but I love em

You are crazy. :D

[Mr.Farang]

Nice. :) Don't use our bars as a cheat meal!! :D



i'll use your bar for any meals :p

snack, breakfast, meal replacements, etc.

[uhockey]

i'll use your bar for any meals :p

snack, breakfast, meal replacements, etc.

I've got my mom eating the things as a "healthy dessert option now" and if she can tolerate them (actually calls them delicious) then we're doing something very right. She's down 40lbs in the last 2 years through diet and exercise alone (was never huge by US standards, but BMI is almost "normal" now,) and if she gets enough satisfaction from a Sustain bar to avoid cakes/cookies/pies......hell, use Sustain bar anyway you like. :D

[jonflesh]

I love the Xyience banana nut bars. People think i'm crazy, but I love em

I thought I was the only one who liked xyience bars...i like the cinn oatmeal ones

[Rodzilla]

I thought I was the only one who liked xyience bars...i like the cinn oatmeal ones

the mixed berry ones are awesome, but they are very different texture and otherwise than the banana and cinnamon bars.

[Warneckutz]

the mixed berry ones are awesome, but they are very different texture and otherwise than the banana and cinnamon bars.

I guess I'll have to give them a 2nd try. The first time I had one (can't remember the flavor) I absolutely hated it... I finished it, but it wasn't easy.

[jonflesh]

the mixed berry ones are awesome, but they are very different texture and otherwise than the banana and cinnamon bars.

i like the way the berry ones taste but i think the berry are made from soy protein. I'm not sure why only the berry ones were done this way or if they have reformulated them but the last time i checked this was the case.

[ZDub212]

The only problem is that those Xyience bars cost $36+ for 12...not a good value.

[jonflesh]

The only problem is that those Xyience bars cost $36+ for 12...not a good value.

this is why i don't buy them...about a year ago another web site had a close out for 11 bucks a box, and i bought a bunch but haven't bought them since.

[ZDub212]

this is why i don't buy them...about a year ago another web site had a close out for 11 bucks a box, and i bought a bunch but haven't bought them since.

I remember that! They had a clearance on Xyience, too bad that's all over.

I got ALL of mine from GNC at the end of the month. They had them (and a TON of other protein bars) on clearance because they were expiring in THREE months...I picked up 40 different protein bars, several of them being the Xyience ones.

[zkid002]

(BTW how is Cinnamon Oatmeal?, didnt have that one yet..)So if I can stomach them, you guys are saying its a good bar to walk around eating, when I get hungry n stuff?...

[ZDub212]

(BTW how is Cinnamon Oatmeal?, didnt have that one yet..)So if I can stomach them, you guys are saying its a good bar to walk around eating, when I get hungry n stuff?...

If you can get them on CLEARANCE...SURE...otherwise, no.

If you're going to spend THAT much on protein bars, you might as well get Sustain or Zero Impact, as you'll spend around $10 less per box.

If it's a dessert or a breakfast bar, the Lean Body Cookie Bars are no joke for flavor, but I don't recommend having them as a part of your daily diet. Sustain would be a better choice for that, followed by Zero Impact.

[uhockey]

I'll not lie: One of my absolute favorite things to do at trade shows (I ALWAYS go off my diet for these, except the Arnold in 05) is make multiple passes at the LaBrada booth and scarf protein bars. They taste better than ANY candy bar, by far.....if the macros were better and ingredients more natural, they'd be the best bar on the market along with OH YEAH PB and Jelly........alas, they are not, but they do taste stellar.

[ZDub212]

I'll not lie: One of my absolute favorite things to do at trade shows (I ALWAYS go off my diet for these, except the Arnold in 05) is make multiple passes at the LaBrada booth and scarf protein bars. They taste better than ANY candy bar, by far.....if the macros were better and ingredients more natural, they'd be the best bar on the market along with OH YEAH PB and Jelly........alas, they are not, but they do taste stellar.

Thank you for your kind words, I agree about the "better than" candy bar taste!

As far as ingredients are concerned, I'm working hard to see if we can see some more natural ingredients, less fillers, better macros in all of our bars and shakes...I think they're of decently high quality now, but there's work to be done. That, and adding more casein to the MRPs is my number one goal as far as products go.

Oh Yeah Bars are unreal...literally just, out of this world.

[uhockey]

Thank you for your kind words, I agree about the "better than" candy bar taste!

As far as ingredients are concerned, I'm working hard to see if we can see some more natural ingredients, less fillers, better macros in all of our bars and shakes...I think they're of decently high quality now, but there's work to be done. That, and adding more casein to the MRPs is my number one goal as far as products go.

Oh Yeah Bars are unreal...literally just, out of this world.

I sat down and mentally attempted calculation after the Olympia.............I'm pretty sure I ate 5000 calories of LaBrada bars on the 2nd day. :D

[ZDub212]

I sat down and mentally attempted calculation after the Olympia.............I'm pretty sure I ate 5000 calories of LaBrada bars on the 2nd day. :D

Oh ****. Stop by this year...we'll hook you up...you'll be at 10,000 in NO time :D

Actually, our new RTD (Bananas & Cream) should be unveiled at the O...so keep an eye out, and give it a try if it's there! 260 calories, 40g of protein, 4g of net carbs (9g of carbs, 5g of fiber) and 9g of fat. Should be excellent, and it'll make it a little easier to stay within your macros for the day...or it'll just up your total kcal for the day.

But what the heck...you can call it a cheat day :D

[kyguy50]

I don't see how anyone can recommend a protein bar to a man that has soy protein in it. Phytoestrogens are not good.

[ZDub212]

I don't see how anyone can recommend a protein bar to a man that has soy protein in it. Phytoestrogens are not good.

If you consume massive amounts of soy on a daily basis...sure, you might encounter problems. But soy in moderation can provide a myriad of health benefits.

Also...if you plan on consuming these protein bars a few times/day EVERYDAY, then you have bigger things to worry about.

[steve_81]

I don't see how anyone can recommend a protein bar to a man that has soy protein in it. Phytoestrogens are not good.

Expand on what I feel is a rather ignorant statement.

[kyguy50]

If you consume massive amounts of soy on a daily basis...sure, you might encounter problems. But soy in moderation can provide a myriad of health benefits.

Also...if you plan on consuming these protein bars a few times/day EVERYDAY, then you have bigger things to worry about.

So can estrogen, but no one supplements that for bodybuilding.

For building muscle, soy is a poor choice.

[ZDub212]

So can estrogen, but no one supplements that for bodybuilding.

For building muscle, soy is a poor choice.

So a few Sustain Bars or Labrada Bars here or there will grow me some nice hooters and waste away my hard earned muscle then...eh?

[Blue Blazer]

I picked up a Meso-Tech bar by Muscletech at walmart for like 2 bucks...

It tasted alright, but I could really taste the sugar alcohols (9grams)

Is this a good bar???Seemed to be a good bar for someone who is bulking..like 12 grams of fat, 27 grams(?) of crabs I think (not sure though) and 30 grams of protein

This any good...I think I will pick some more up...your thoughts?

JM

[ZDub212]

27 grams(?) of crabs

If you're not allergic to shellfish, knock yourself out

[uhockey]

So can estrogen, but no one supplements that for bodybuilding.

For building muscle, soy is a poor choice.

You were negged for being a fool, in this thread and others, and for NOT using a picture of yourself as an avatar, which is a rule.

Do you realize how little soy is actually in these bars, and on top of that how FEW true phytoestrogens are in typical soy (soy which has not been standardized FOR phytoestrogens?)

At the WORST, the soy may be "poorly bioavailable" but at the same time, when blended with the other bar ingredients it forms a more complete amino acid profille. At the BEST, soy is great for HDL levels, bone health, and immune function, even in small amounts.

[kyguy50]

You were negged for being a fool, in this thread and others, and for NOT using a picture of yourself as an avatar, which is a rule.

Do you realize how little soy is actually in these bars, and on top of that how FEW true phytoestrogens are in typical soy (soy which has not been standardized FOR phytoestrogens?)

At the WORST, the soy may be "poorly bioavailable" but at the same time, when blended with the other bar ingredients it forms a more complete amino acid profille. At the BEST, soy is great for HDL levels, bone health, and immune function, even in small amounts.

Sup punk. This is a picture of my muscle tissue during biopsy.

Just because there is a "little soy" doesn't mean it's not detremential. There is overwhelming evidence that soy protein should not be used by those trying to gain muscle.

Gotta love e-thugs.

[MCWTRAINER]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/met/big.html

The Crispy Apple Pie and Super Cookie Crunch are AWESOME!!

[uhockey]

Sup punk. This is a picture of my muscle tissue during biopsy.

Just because there is a "little soy" doesn't mean it's not detremential. There is overwhelming evidence that soy protein should not be used by those trying to gain muscle.

Gotta love e-thugs.

Show me ONE study that indicates less than 5g of soy protein (NOT isolated phytoestrogens) is bad in any way. You can't, and you won't.

Then read this, if you can handle the science: http://www.brinkzone.com/articledetails.php?acatid=3&aid=30

[Blue Blazer]

If you're not allergic to shellfish, knock yourself out

Lol...sorry bout that...I always do this but usally read over my posts...

Sometimes I write "portein" instead or protein hehe...thank god I read over my posts sometimes haha

[gravewyrm]

Cliff builder for me

[Lean2Mass]

http://www.allstarhealth.com/f/met-rx-big_100_colossal_bar.htm

I can't get enough of these. For a hard gainer like me, 410-420 calories per bar is amazing and the 32g of quality protein is a big plus too. It's high in sodium and sugar, but nothing that would really be harmful to my body. It's the best tasting bar I've ever had too. I can down one of these in no time and with no effort. They go down even easier with 8oz of water. The other great flavor is "Super Cookie Crunch".

[Lol312]

I just ate my first muscle Milk bar and it was delicious. Vanilla toffee crunch and it tasted just like a candy bar from a store. Wow, if they put peanuts and some caramel in their, it would be a baby ruth!

[bwrestler45]

the defranco energy bar is the best pre workout energy bar i have ever used its filled with28 grams of protein,8 grams of sugar,and has a combination of L-tyrosine and caffeine.Flavors only come in iced chocolate cake.


to get the bar here is the link

http://www.defrancostraining.com/products/products.htm#defrancobar

[AcousticDoc]

I like pirmier nutrition's protein bar. 19.99 for 24 bars at 30g of protein each! Makes my wallet happy.

[ZDub212]

I like pirmier nutrition's protein bar. 19.99 for 24 bars at 30g of protein each! Makes my wallet happy.

Where did you find those??

[AcousticDoc]

Where did you find those??

http://www.premiernutrition.com/products/protein.html

Those are the bars. But do not buy from that site! Costco sells them at 19.99 without tax for two boxes of 12 (I don't know why they didn't charge me tax)!

[Sibrek]

I was just wondering what everyone pays for their VPX Zero Impact bars?

I've been getting them for around 20$ per box of 12.

[Warneckutz]

I was just wondering what everyone pays for their VPX Zero Impact bars?

I've been getting them for around 20$ per box of 12.

$25/box, but when you figure the discount you can get ordering from BB.com... $21.65 if my math is correct.

[adamci1]

http://www.premiernutrition.com/products/protein.html

Those are the bars. But do not buy from that site! Costco sells them at 19.99 without tax for two boxes of 12 (I don't know why they didn't charge me)!
I personally would steer clear of these bars. The main protein source is soy and while I don't mind it in a mix in smaller amounts, I prefer whey isolate as my main source. In addition they also contain HFCS and partially hydrogenated palm kernal and kernal oils.

[jslee21]

I was just wondering what everyone pays for their VPX Zero Impact bars?

I've been getting them for around 20$ per box of 12.

Where are you your boxes from at $20? Also, which do you prefer, the pumpkin supreme or the chocolate peanut butter flavor?

[AcousticDoc]

I personally would steer clear of these bars. The main protein source is soy and while I don't mind it in a mix in smaller amounts, I prefer whey isolate as my main source. In addition they also contain HFCS and partially hydrogenated palm kernal and kernal oils.

Yea they have the partial hydrogenized thing going on but their main source of protein is a blend (soy isolate, cassein calcimite, whey concentrate) and not just soy.

[adamci1]

Yea they have the partial hydrogenized thing going on but their main source of protein is a blend (soy isolate, cassein calcimite, whey concentrate) and not just soy.
Ya i know its a blend however soy isolate is listed first and is therfore the main source. Its not a huge deal but just prefernce. But ya the Double Chocolate Crunch has HFCS which I won't touch.

[uhockey]

So, um, Sustain bar. No Partially Hydrogenized ****, no HFCS. :)

[Illadelphia]

Will there ever be DS sustain bars again? I looked at a few websites including here, nothin! All sold out. I'd like to try one at least.

[uhockey]

Will there ever be DS sustain bars again? I looked at a few websites including here, nothin! All sold out. I'd like to try one at least.

They're being reorderd, but are currently out of stock. Its a good thing and a bad. Good that you all love 'em, bad that we can't make 'em fast enough.

[haiz69]

So, um, Sustain bar. No Partially Hydrogenized ****, no HFCS. :)

No **** at all. Just plain great stuff. IMO the most "nutrient dense" bar there is.

[Fitsho]

$25/box, but when you figure the discount you can get ordering from BB.com... $21.65 if my math is correct.

Geez, these are some good deals on VPX bars...

:D


Just sayin'

[zkid002]

Geez, these are some good deals on VPX bars...

:D


Just sayin'

Hey you!!...how you doin?..Also..When are the new flavors being released!!?..Im dyin over here!..cant wait for the new flavors..are they out..and did you taste em yet?..

[Spottydog]

I just tried a Myoplex Deluxe (PB).
YUM!
It was dee-lish!
And it had 30g protein.
Not TOO bad in the sat. fat department either... 4.5g
But unfortunately it has HFCS... sadly, too good to be a perfect food. :(

[Sibrek]

So, um, Sustain bar. No Partially Hydrogenized ****, no HFCS. :)

What's wrong with HFCS? Just wondering, since I see you pimping your bar with an equal amount of sugar on every page

[ZDub212]

What's wrong with HFCS? Just wondering, since I see you pimping your bar with an equal amount of sugar on every page

What's wrong with High Fructose Corn Syrup? Are you serious?

[Sibrek]

What's wrong with High Fructose Corn Syrup? Are you serious?

Yes, enlighten me.

[IrockZ]

Yes, enlighten me.

damn where u been??? it makes ur dick fall off. true story

[ZDub212]

Yes, enlighten me.

Why is a highly processed sugar not ideal for everyday consumption?

HFCS has been linked to obesity for starters.

One study concluded that foods with increased pure fructose "produced significantly higher fasting plasma triacylglycerol values than did the glucose diet in men" and "if plasma triacylglycerols are a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, then diets high in fructose may be undesirable". Bantle, et al. "noted the same effects in a study of 14 healthy volunteers who sequentially ate a high-fructose diet and one almost devoid of the sugar."

A study in mice suggests that fructose increases obesity.Large quantities of fructose stimulates the liver to produce triglycerides, promotes glycation of proteins and induces insulin resistance.

Bantle, John P.; Susan K. Raatz, William Thomas and Angeliki Georgopoulos (November 2000). "Effects of dietary fructose on plasma lipids in healthy subjects". American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 72 (5): 1128-1134.

http://www.enerex.ca/articles/whey_protein_and_fructose.htm

Jurgens, Hella; et al. (2005). "Consuming Fructose-sweetened Beverages Increases Body Adiposity in Mice". Obesity Res 13: 1146-1156.

Faeh D, Minehira K, Schwarz JM, Periasamy R, Park S, Tappy L (July 2005). "Effect of fructose overfeeding and fish oil administration on hepatic de novo lipogenesis and insulin sensitivity in healthy men". DIABETES 54 (7): 1907-1913. PMID 15983189

[The Brotherhood]

large quantities.

Don't stress the small stuff

[Sibrek]

Why is a highly processed sugar not ideal for everyday consumption?

HFCS has been linked to obesity for starters.

One study concluded that foods with increased pure fructose "produced significantly higher fasting plasma triacylglycerol values than did the glucose diet in men" and "if plasma triacylglycerols are a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, then diets high in fructose may be undesirable". Bantle, et al. "noted the same effects in a study of 14 healthy volunteers who sequentially ate a high-fructose diet and one almost devoid of the sugar."

A study in mice suggests that fructose increases obesity.Large quantities of fructose stimulates the liver to produce triglycerides, promotes glycation of proteins and induces insulin resistance.

Bantle, John P.; Susan K. Raatz, William Thomas and Angeliki Georgopoulos (November 2000). "Effects of dietary fructose on plasma lipids in healthy subjects". American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 72 (5): 1128-1134.

http://www.enerex.ca/articles/whey_protein_and_fructose.htm

Jurgens, Hella; et al. (2005). "Consuming Fructose-sweetened Beverages Increases Body Adiposity in Mice". Obesity Res 13: 1146-1156.

Faeh D, Minehira K, Schwarz JM, Periasamy R, Park S, Tappy L (July 2005). "Effect of fructose overfeeding and fish oil administration on hepatic de novo lipogenesis and insulin sensitivity in healthy men". DIABETES 54 (7): 1907-1913. PMID 15983189
Lol. "Fructose-sweetened beverages" increase bf because you eat calories that aren't filling.

Fructose is in fruit, should we avoid that as well?

Doesn't honey even contain fructose...

[ZDub212]

Lol. "Fructose-sweetened beverages" increase bf because you eat calories that aren't filling.

Fructose is in fruit, should we avoid that as well?

Doesn't honey even contain fructose...

Fructose and HFCS are NOT the same.

Fruits & honey are natural, not highly processed crap.

[Sibrek]

Fructose and HFCS are NOT the same.

Fruits & honey are natural, not highly processed crap.

What's wrong with "highly processed crap"?

A protein bar is highly processed alone...I don't see the argument

[ZDub212]

What's wrong with "highly processed crap"?

A protein bar is highly processed alone...I don't see the argument

Yes, many are...but you directed this towards Uhockey, who works for a company that makes protein bars which are not highly processed. VPX is another company with bars that aren't processed to hell.

[Sibrek]

VPX is a good bar. I don't see the hype about sustain bars...

Define highly processed vs. processed...

[40-Yard Dash_2]

What's wrong with HFCS? Just wondering, since I see you pimping your bar with an equal amount of sugar on every page

Eh, who gives a **** about HFCS?

It all converts into glucose in the body anyway, right? :rolleyes:

[uhockey]

What's wrong with High Fructose Corn Syrup? Are you serious?


Why is a highly processed sugar not ideal for everyday consumption?

HFCS has been linked to obesity for starters.

One study concluded that foods with increased pure fructose "produced significantly higher fasting plasma triacylglycerol values than did the glucose diet in men" and "if plasma triacylglycerols are a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, then diets high in fructose may be undesirable". Bantle, et al. "noted the same effects in a study of 14 healthy volunteers who sequentially ate a high-fructose diet and one almost devoid of the sugar."

A study in mice suggests that fructose increases obesity.Large quantities of fructose stimulates the liver to produce triglycerides, promotes glycation of proteins and induces insulin resistance.

Bantle, John P.; Susan K. Raatz, William Thomas and Angeliki Georgopoulos (November 2000). "Effects of dietary fructose on plasma lipids in healthy subjects". American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 72 (5): 1128-1134.

http://www.enerex.ca/articles/whey_protein_and_fructose.htm

Jurgens, Hella; et al. (2005). "Consuming Fructose-sweetened Beverages Increases Body Adiposity in Mice". Obesity Res 13: 1146-1156.

Faeh D, Minehira K, Schwarz JM, Periasamy R, Park S, Tappy L (July 2005). "Effect of fructose overfeeding and fish oil administration on hepatic de novo lipogenesis and insulin sensitivity in healthy men". DIABETES 54 (7): 1907-1913. PMID 15983189


Fructose and HFCS are NOT the same.

Fruits & honey are natural, not highly processed crap.


Yes, many are...but you directed this towards Uhockey, who works for a company that makes protein bars which are not highly processed. VPX is another company with bars that aren't processed to hell.


Eh, who gives a **** about HFCS?

It all converts into glucose in the body anyway, right? :rolleyes:

Sibrek will now be negged for ignoring the myriad of diabetic research based on HFCS and the effects of highly laden fructose diets on NASH and other non-alcoholic fatty liver diseases.

[Buff_Daddy]

Sibrek will now be negged for ignoring the myriad of diabetic research based on HFCS and the effects of highly laden fructose diets on NASH and other non-alcoholic fatty liver diseases.


You love the word 'myriad'!! :)

The sustain bars imo are the best tasting bars out there and what makes it even more impressive are the all natural ingredients...I wouldnt be concerned about the sugar as its raw honey (If I remember correctly).

[Sibrek]

Sibrek will now be negged for ignoring the myriad of diabetic research based on HFCS and the effects of highly laden fructose diets on NASH and other non-alcoholic fatty liver diseases.

LOL. That was a mature thing to do for a company rep. (Both UHockey, and 40-yard-dash) I thought negging was supposed to be reserved for posts that were offensive or blatantly wrong. I don't see what was necessary about that, as all I'm trying to do is find out why you believe HFCS is so evil, when really, it's structure isn't much different from honey in most forms. Are you really trying to educate anyone, or just trying to sell your bar with little opposition? I wonder.

Oh, edit: Notice I didn't neg zacharymills, and he didn't neg me. I wonder why two regular posters would be more mature than company reps...

[Fitsho]

Hey you!!...how you doin?..Also..When are the new flavors being released!!?..Im dyin over here!..cant wait for the new flavors..are they out..and did you taste em yet?..

I'm doing great!!! How about you? The new flavor of the bar is not being released any time soon, but I think there might be samples at the Olympia (don't quote me on this one though as I am not 100% sure). I know they were running samples in the back, and no I have not tasted them yet.


What's wrong with HFCS? Just wondering, since I see you pimping your bar with an equal amount of sugar on every page

No High Fructose Corn Syrup here!!!


Yes, many are...but you directed this towards Uhockey, who works for a company that makes protein bars which are not highly processed. VPX is another company with bars that aren't processed to hell.

Thanks for the recognition!!


VPX is a good bar. I don't see the hype about sustain bars...

Define highly processed vs. processed...

Thanks again for the recognition!!!


Eh, who gives a **** about HFCS?

It all converts into glucose in the body anyway, right? :rolleyes:

I hope you are being sarcastic here.... :D

[njmuscle66]

I'm doing great!!! How about you? The new flavor of the bar is not being released any time soon, but I think there might be samples at the Olympia (don't quote me on this one though as I am not 100% sure). I know they were running samples in the back, and no I have not tasted them yet.

:D

did you get my PM. I was so aggravated Friday :(

[haiz69]

LOL. That was a mature thing to do for a company rep. (Both UHockey, and 40-yard-dash) I thought negging was supposed to be reserved for posts that were offensive or blatantly wrong. I don't see what was necessary about that, as all I'm trying to do is find out why you believe HFCS is so evil, when really, it's structure isn't much different from honey in most forms. Are you really trying to educate anyone, or just trying to sell your bar with little opposition? I wonder.

Oh, edit: Notice I didn't neg zacharymills, and he didn't neg me. I wonder why two regular posters would be more mature than company reps...

Its because you a refusing to believe an absolutely blatant fact.

[Fitsho]

did you get my PM. I was so aggravated Friday :(

yeah I got it. As soon as the bars come back to me and I get notified, I will re-ship without the "requires sig" box checked. The guys in the warehouse were not supposed to put that on my box, but apparently they are doing this to every package I send out and I am having this problem repeatedly. No worries, I will take care of it.

[Sibrek]

Its because you a refusing to believe an absolutely blatant fact.

Oh hi, 3rd Designer representative.


Would you care to actually participate in the debate, rather than negging me like your peers? You do realize that it's also a "blatant fact" that pure sugar for PWO is better than any other carb, although that's assuming the person hasn't eaten anything for about a day? O RLY funny how research skews things.

[Zona16]

Rock N Roll bars are soooo good! with Lambada protein, we have em at 24 hour and i'm in love haha

[Jrich54338]

Anybody in here have the Meso Tech Complete Bars, they are very soft, almost taste like a brownie???

[40-Yard Dash_2]

LOL. That was a mature thing to do for a company rep. (Both UHockey, and 40-yard-dash) I thought negging was supposed to be reserved for posts that were blatantly wrong.
I wonder why two regular posters would be more mature than company reps...

You sir are "blatantly wrong!"

Uhockey is a company employee, not a rep such as myself. :D

[Sibrek]

You sir are "blatantly wrong!"

Uhockey is a company employee, not a rep such as myself. :D

That's a clever manipulation of words, but on these forums, UHockey is representing the company.

Why don't you go neg people who share a different opinion than you some more :)

[Fitsho]

this is supposed to be a war about bars, not between board members....give it up or take this outside please :D

[40-Yard Dash_2]

this is supposed to be a war about bars, not between board members....give it up or take this outside please :D

This is far from a "war."

Just a little bantar that lasted 2 whole posts for me and is now through with.

[Sibrek]

Yup, no war here. Just a few reps angry because I prefer a bar with like 6g of sugar and a lot more healthy calories(VPX Zero impact) than the other bar I've tried with around 16g of sugar that tasted like chemicals(Designer sustain)

[Fitsho]

This is far from a "war."

Just a little bantar that lasted 2 whole posts for me and is now through with.


Yup, no war here. Just a few reps angry because I prefer a bar with like 6g of sugar and a lot more healthy calories(VPX Zero impact) than the other bar I've tried with around 16g of sugar that tasted like chemicals(Designer sustain)


I was just quoting the name of the section, "supplement wars" :D I am glad you all are over your little tantrum

[Sibrek]

Me too, I was just surprised a company rep would resort to negging someone. It's not like i was spamming/trolling or something, Lol

[The Brotherhood]

I hate this thread. I'm un-subscribing. Nothing personal, but company reps should be barred from posting in the "Supplement Wars!" section. They have no business in a section which is intended for un-adulterated consumer opinions.

[uhockey]

LOL. That was a mature thing to do for a company rep. (Both UHockey, and 40-yard-dash) I thought negging was supposed to be reserved for posts that were offensive or blatantly wrong. I don't see what was necessary about that, as all I'm trying to do is find out why you believe HFCS is so evil, when really, it's structure isn't much different from honey in most forms. Are you really trying to educate anyone, or just trying to sell your bar with little opposition? I wonder.

Oh, edit: Notice I didn't neg zacharymills, and he didn't neg me. I wonder why two regular posters would be more mature than company reps...

Um, you were blatantly wrong. I have no problem with VPX Zero Impact, I do have a problem with HFCS in any way, shape, or form, which isn't found in ZI, or Sustain Bar.

[haiz69]

Oh hi, 3rd Designer representative.


Would you care to actually participate in the debate, rather than negging me like your peers? You do realize that it's also a "blatant fact" that pure sugar for PWO is better than any other carb, although that's assuming the person hasn't eaten anything for about a day? O RLY funny how research skews things.

I don't think a bunch of sugar PWO is ideal either.

You are comparing two very different things. I'll grab all the research you want on why HFCS is so bad.

[micdaddy]

best for taste + quality ingredients -- Labrada Cookie Bar

best taste, but more of a candy bar -- Promax Bar

[uhockey]

best for taste + quality ingredients -- Labrada Cookie Bar


You're kidding me, right?

They taste great, but......wow........

[Sibrek]

Um, you were blatantly wrong. I have no problem with VPX Zero Impact, I do have a problem with HFCS in any way, shape, or form, which isn't found in ZI, or Sustain Bar.

I wouldn't say i was blatantly wrong. SOME research points towards it being bad, but I think it is blaming the wrong thing. Especially if you look at the breakdowns of honey vs. sugar vs. HFCS

I could say the same about Soy protein, which your bar contains...but that doesn't mean I would avoid soy protein.

I think your neg was not only unjustified, but plain shameful as a representative of a supplement company.


I don't think a bunch of sugar PWO is ideal either.

You are comparing two very different things. I'll grab all the research you want on why HFCS is so bad.

I was just using the PWO sugar as an example of a commonly believed misconception that can be backed up by research.

[uhockey]

I wouldn't say i was blatantly wrong. SOME research points towards it being bad, but I think it is blaming the wrong thing. Especially if you look at the breakdowns of honey vs. sugar vs. HFCS

I could say the same about Soy protein, which your bar contains...but that doesn't mean I would avoid soy protein.

I think your neg was not only unjustified, but plain shameful as a representative of a supplement company.


I think your presence in this thread, the cheat thread, and the misc thread is shameful. I also think you are unintelligent. So it goes. We all have our opinions. :)

The research on small amounts of soy is VERY positive, actually. :D

[Rodzilla]

I don't eat bars that often anyway, so if a bar has a little bit of HFCS I'm not to worried, but if HFCS is the main carb source I deffinetely stay away.

Now if a bar has hydrogenated oil ANYWHERE on the ingredient list, i also stay away.

I've said before I think both vpx and sustain are awesome, I would never make them a staple in my diet, but I surely wouldn't be worried about consuming them when I'm in a pinch.

[Sibrek]

I think your presence in this thread, the cheat thread, and the misc thread is shameful. I also think you are unintelligent. So it goes. We all have our opinions. :)

The research on small amounts of soy is VERY positive, actually. :D

How about the research on small amounts of HFCS? (I.e. not extreme doses)

Strong flaming...I never once attacked you, did I?

[uhockey]

How about the research on small amounts of HFCS? (I.e. not extreme doses)

Strong flaming...I never once attacked you, did I?

Please do not buy our bars if you don't like them.....just stick with your icecream and altoid cheat meals......then hop on that treadmill for a couple hours. :) You're now on ignore, have fun in the misc section.

To all: Check this guy's post history.

[MattyH7688]

Please do not buy our bars if you don't like them.....just stick with your icecream and altoid cheat meals......then hop on that treadmill for a couple hours. :) You're now on ignore, have fun in the misc section.

To all: Check this guy's post history.

:D

[Sibrek]

Please do not buy our bars if you don't like them.....just stick with your icecream and altoid cheat meals......then hop on that treadmill for a couple hours. :) You're now on ignore, have fun in the misc section.

To all: Check this guy's post history.

Make fun of my eating disorder. You are hilarious.

[micdaddy]

You're kidding me, right?

They taste great, but......wow........

I'm no rep for Labrada, so if I need to be enlightened, please help me out. What's not to like about these bars? In a bar, I look at 2 things... the quality of the protien, and the other fillers.

This bar has a high quality blend of 30 g protein (Cross-Flow Micro Ultra Filtered Whey Protein Concentrate, Cross-Flow Micro Ultra Filtered Whey Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Isolate, Agglomerated Egg Protein).

And the other fillers are relatively harmless (12 g net sugar with no little artificial junk like HFCS or ace K).

[Fitsho]

Please do not buy our bars if you don't like them.....just stick with your icecream and altoid cheat meals......then hop on that treadmill for a couple hours. :) You're now on ignore, have fun in the misc section.

To all: Check this guy's post history.

He is young; you know the quality of your bars, I wouldn't let him get to you (I know you aren't, but it isn't even worth the argument). And yes, I did see his gummy cheat thread; I found that a little strange as well and even contemplated if it was a joke or not. :confused:

[ZDub212]

He is young; you know the quality of your bars, I wouldn't let him get to you (I know you aren't, but it isn't even worth the argument). And yes, I did see his gummy cheat thread; I found that a little strange as well and even contemplated if it was a joke or not. :confused:

So...has the Chocolate PB flavor been reformulated? I've had the older versions but heard throught the bro-vine that the flavor was improved.

[Fitsho]

So...has the Chocolate PB flavor been reformulated? I've had the older versions but heard throught the bro-vine that the flavor was improved.

when did you hear this?

[ZDub212]

when did you hear this?

Months ago, but I never thought to ask. Has the flavor been reformulated at all since its inception?

[Fitsho]

Months ago, but I never thought to ask. Has the flavor been reformulated at all since its inception?

most definitely, the bars, back in the day, used to be dry and hard as a rock. Now the flavor and texture of the bars are much improved.

The lab is always trying to improve on the formulation, just earlier this week they were running another improved version of the chocolate peanut butter bar, but I didn't try it. Supposedly it tasted the same ;)

[Viperspit]

most definitely, the bars, back in the day, used to be dry and hard as a rock. Now the flavor and texture of the bars are much improved.

The lab is always trying to improve on the formulation, just earlier this week they were running another improved version of the chocolate peanut butter bar, but I didn't try it. Supposedly it tasted the same ;)

Please send a case immediately as I am out.
kthx :)

[Fitsho]

Please send a case immediately as I am out.
kthx :)

as soon as I receive my supply of Retain2 I'd be happy to send out your bars ;)

[Viperspit]

as soon as I receive my supply of Retain2 I'd be happy to send out your bars ;)


But I'm a celebrity in your VPX Newsletter dammit :p

[ZDub212]

All this talk of VPX Zero Impact bars is making me hungry :D

[Fitsho]

But I'm a celebrity in your VPX Newsletter dammit :p

speaking of....you wanna give it another go???


All this talk of VPX Zero Impact bars is making me hungry :D

have a ZI bar, they are great for hungry situations ;):D

[ZDub212]

speaking of....you wanna give it another go???



have a ZI bar, they are great for hungry situations ;):D

Send me one, and we'll be all set! :D

[Fitsho]

Send me one, and we'll be all set! :D

it would probably be cheaper if you just drove to your local nutrition store and paid the $2 for a single bar rather than me paying for shipping. :D

[ZDub212]

it would probably be cheaper if you just drove to your local nutrition store and paid the $2 for a single bar rather than me paying for shipping. :D

Hit me up with some bars...I'll send you something nyce :D

[blinky99]

actualy you could fit the bar inside a plain white envelope and send it for like 50 cents,yes i tried,yes i also want a pb bar sample i sent you a pm also

[Fitsho]

Hit me up with some bars...I'll send you something nyce :D

like what? :D


actualy you could fit the bar inside a plain white envelope and send it for like 50 cents,yes i tried,yes i also want a pb bar sample i sent you a pm also


yeah, umm....we don't do that here. I wouldn't want our bar to show up at your place mashed and unacceptable. We ship in boxes.

[720robyn]

I just want to find a bar that can function as a meal replacement.


Everything on the market now is either full of sugar, or sugar-alcohols....

I want carbs.......it's just that I want good carbs!!

Yeah its true most bars should just be in the candy section. I and my fiance are big fans of AST Vyo pro bars...but if your looking for a whole meal replacement they have that too. Its called Nytro Pro- 40 its a complete meal with everything you need in it.

[ZDub212]

like what? :D




yeah, umm....we don't do that here. I wouldn't want our bar to show up at your place mashed and unacceptable. We ship in boxes.

Check out the Labrada line...if you see something you like...let me know :)

[Viperspit]

speaking of....you wanna give it another go???



lol, no problem, whens your deadline Shana? (please don't say today) :p

[njmuscle66]

Did mine make it back to the warehouse yet? :(

[Fitsho]

lol, no problem, whens your deadline Shana? (please don't say today) :p

lol, yeah today. But I've filled this newsletter so it's no big-E! You've got a week to come up with something else for me for next week's newsletter :D


Did mine make it back to the warehouse yet? :(

I don't know, no one has informed me of it :( sowwy

[RippedFamMan]

Anybody tried the Supreme Bars? I hear they taste exactly like 100 grand bars. They aren't readily available, at least not at GNC or Wal Mart where I looked.

[Spottydog]

Ooo! Forgot:
PROTEIN PLUS by Powerbar.
Yogurt and peanut are SOOOO good! And great as a pwo pick-me-up.

[BOOSTEDDUDE]

Hi guys, I already posted in this thread but I didn't subscribe so I'm posting again so I can track the thead since I'm a huge Protein Bar fan.

I just had another Clif Builders bar Peanut Butter today and YUM with lots of protein. I buy lots at King Soopers every time I go shoping. Usually get a mix of Clif Mojo bars, Clif Builders, Powerbar NutNaturals and a few others.

[zkid002]

Anybody tried the Supreme Bars? I hear they taste exactly like 100 grand bars. They aren't readily available, at least not at GNC or Wal Mart where I looked.

Where you can get these bars locally without ordering htem online is at a Vitamin Shoppe...I got mine there!!..

[Oddball8945]

Eh, who gives a **** about HFCS?

It all converts into glucose in the body anyway, right? :rolleyes:

altho your post is suspose to be a sarcastic reply, it is actully true

In the end its pretty much all the same, the difference in terms of breakdown and use in the body is the same as any sugar.

[zkid002]

altho your post is suspose to be a sarcastic reply, it is actully true

In the end its pretty much all the same, the difference in terms of breakdown and use in the body is the same as any sugar.

The Man Is RIGHT..DING DING

[DottsBaller5]

How many f***ing supplements do you take ZKid.........I'm just sayin

[ybme]

I was impressed with the previous two muscle milk bar *purely from a flavor standpoint*. However, a few weeks ago I tried the banana cream flavor and it tasted horrible and left the worst chemical aftertaste I have ever experienced.

My favorite bars are without a doubt DS sustain bar *almond* and VPX Zero Impact bars *pumpkin*.

[zkid002]

I was impressed with the previous two muscle milk bar *purely from a flavor standpoint*. However, a few weeks ago I tried the banana cream flavor and it tasted horrible and left the worst chemical aftertaste I have ever experienced.

My favorite bars are without a doubt DS sustain bar *almond* and VPX Zero Impact bars *pumpkin*.

YOU KNOW IT..they are the HIGHEST QUALITY bars on EARTH...and Taste amazing!!..what more can you ask for in a protein bar?!?..

[Fitsho]

YOU KNOW IT..they are the HIGHEST QUALITY bars on EARTH...and Taste amazing!!..what more can you ask for in a protein bar?!?..

I agree :D

[micdaddy]

I'm no rep for Labrada, so if I need to be enlightened, please help me out. What's not to like about these bars? In a bar, I look at 2 things... the quality of the protien, and the other fillers.

This bar has a high quality blend of 30 g protein (Cross-Flow Micro Ultra Filtered Whey Protein Concentrate, Cross-Flow Micro Ultra Filtered Whey Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Isolate, Agglomerated Egg Protein).

And the other fillers are relatively harmless (12 g net sugar with no little artificial junk like HFCS or ace K).

Hey, Zachary.. you're a Labrada rep... help me out here. Am I nuts to think the Lean Body bar is tops in quality nutrition?

[ZDub212]

Hey, Zachary.. you're a Labrada rep... help me out here. Am I nuts to think the Lean Body bar is tops in quality nutrition?

Not nuts...they are very high quality...complete package of flavor, high quality protein sources, and a very nice ingredient profile, but I would say that VPX ZI & PBL Pure Omega & Sustain are tops in the market.

[zkid002]

Not nuts...they are very high quality...complete package of flavor, high quality protein sources, and a very nice ingredient profile, but I would say that VPX ZI & PBL Pure Omega & Sustain are tops in the market.

Wats up Zach!?...btw, have you ever tasted a PBL Pure Omega Bar?..I have both the Sustain Bars and VPX Bars(as you know)..but havent gotten to PBL yet, have you?..hows it taste?..

[Ratava]

I just tried the new Power Crunch High Protein Creme Filled Wafers. They are supposed to have Micro Peptides for maximum protein absorption. They taste like a treat, have about 200 calories (depending on the flavor), and are really easy on the stomach after a tough work-out. And I like that they use whey, and not soy, protein.
Ratava (aka The Red Horse, aka Karen)

[ZDub212]

Wats up Zach!?...btw, have you ever tasted a PBL Pure Omega Bar?..I have both the Sustain Bars and VPX Bars(as you know)..but havent gotten to PBL yet, have you?..hows it taste?..

I haven't man, sorry. I haven't heard good things.

[zkid002]

I haven't man, sorry. I haven't heard good things.

So you just recommend it nutritionally?..

[deadmozs]

I' m looking for a bar that's not like chewing on dirt or tastes like cardboard and is actually healthy. Is there such a creature? Seems the good tasting one's suck for you and the good one's taste like I'm chewing gravel.

Someone on another forum I was on recommened trying Supreme Bars (they sent me this link) http://www.supremeprotein.com/index.html - but I'm not familliar with them. From what I can see they look pretty healthy so I'm concerned that they will taste like crap.

Anyone try these?

[mightydustloop]

I haven't man, sorry. I haven't heard good things.

The nutrition profile is pretty solid, and I wouldn't feel the least amount of guilt eating these things. But I have tasted a lot of bad things in my life, and those bars stick out among them. I couldn't even make it through half my box. I got PB. Doubt chocolate is much better.

[jslee21]

The nutrition profile is pretty solid, and I wouldn't feel the least amount of guilt eating these things. But I have tasted a lot of bad things in my life, and those bars stick out among them. I couldn't even make it through half my box. I got PB. Doubt chocolate is much better.

I like the chocolate much better than the PB but these bars are definately not for everyone. The taste is like none other and you must have an acquired taste for them.

[jonflesh]

I like the chocolate much better than the PB but these bars are definately not for everyone. The taste is like none other and you must have an acquired taste for them.

def a different taste, almost bitter, but i really like the chocolate

[zkid002]

The nutrition profile is pretty solid, and I wouldn't feel the least amount of guilt eating these things. But I have tasted a lot of bad things in my life, and those bars stick out among them. I couldn't even make it through half my box. I got PB. Doubt chocolate is much better.


I like the chocolate much better than the PB but these bars are definately not for everyone. The taste is like none other and you must have an acquired taste for them.


def a different taste, almost bitter, but i really like the chocolate

So I guess by reading all three of these posts, Chocolate is definitely the way to go with this bar!..I want it because of its nutritional value, and I hope I acquire the taste!..because everything looks solid about this bar to me. ..

[wilson735]

Met-Rx Mud Pie Fusion... I'd eat one 3x a day if I had the money..

[CaSHMeRe]

Best Protein Bar BY FAR !!! 20g protein

Promax Bars, Box Of 12, Cookies N' Cream
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/promax/natural.html

Amazing Taste and AMAZING PRICE!

[dvsness]

really easy on the stomach after a tough work-out.

A bar PWO w/13g protein? Interesting plan. Good flavors, though.


Amazing Taste and AMAZING PRICE!

They do taste great, but anything w/HFCS can not be in the running for best overall, imo.

[Buff_Daddy]

No love for the AST Vyo -pro? Id put that in the top 3.

[zkid002]

No love for the AST Vyo -pro? Id put that in the top 3.

Never tasted it before...what flavor you think is the best?..

[ZDub212]

No love for the AST Vyo -pro? Id put that in the top 3.

What? Why?

I'm assuming you're basing this on flavor exclusively.

[zkid002]

What? Why?

I'm assuming you're basing this on flavor exclusively.

Why, whats the problem with this product?...

[ZDub212]

Why, whats the problem with this product?...

Meh...not only is there nothing special about these bars, but they also contain partially hydrogenated oils.

[lyon812]

Hello, all. I'm making my first post because I'm a novice with little health knowledge until recently. Somehow I managed to miss stumbling upon this forum, and I've learned more in the last few days of reading than the months beforehand.

After reading about 50 pages of this extremely long and informative thread, I started collating information about the various protein bars to help my understanding of them. After doing so, I discovered I have some questions, and then thought it might be helpful for other rookies out there that want an easy comparison. Obviously, these aren't all of the bars out there, but it's a fair sample of what people have discussed.

I used the ingredient information from the BB store.

AST Vyo-Pro
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/vyobar.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 200; Calories from Fat: 60; Fat Grams: 7g; Saturated Fat: 1g
Carbohydrates: 24g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 0g; Price: $16.98
Protein blend: total milk protein, calcium caseinate, whey protein concentrate, ion exchange whey protein isolate, hydrolyzed whey protein concentrate, egg albumin, l-glutamine
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol, partially hydrogenated soybean oil

Clif Builder
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clif/build.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 270; Calories from Fat: 70; Fat Grams: 8g; Saturated Fat: 4.5g
Carbohydrates: 30g; Fiber: 3g; Sugars: 22g; Price: $19.89
Protein blend: Soy Protein Isolate
Dubious Ingredients: None

DS Sustain
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/sustain.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 300; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 1.5g
Carbohydrates: 35g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 16g; Price: $22.49
Protein blend: Sodium caseinate, whey protein concentrate, soy protein isolate
Dubious Ingredients: None

Jay Robb JayBar
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/jay/bar.html
Protein: 15g; Calories: 240; Calories from Fat: 100; Fat Grams: 11g; Saturated Fat: 2g
Carbohydrates: 22g; Fiber: 5g; Sugars: 9g; Price: $35.88
Protein blend: whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (5g)

Labrada Lean Body Gold
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/lab/gold.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 330; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 6g
Carbohydrates: 32g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 9g; Price: $22.99
Protein blend: Whey Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Isolate, Milk Protein Isolate
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol syrup, Hydrolyzed Gelatin

Met-RX Protein Plus
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/met/bars.html
Protein: 32g; Calories: 320; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 8g
Carbohydrates: 32g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 2g; Price: $23.99
Protein blend: milk protein concentrate, calcium sodium caseinate, whey protein isolate, hydrolyzed whey protein, whey protein concentrate, egg white, l-glutamine
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (19g), Maltitol

MHP Probolic SR
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/probar.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 310; Calories from Fat: 90; Fat Grams: 10g; Saturated Fat: 5g
Carbohydrates: 28g; Fiber: 1g; Sugars: 6g; Price: $29.99
Protein blend: Milk Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Isolate, Calcium Caseinate, Whey Protein Concentrate, BCAA Blend, Soy Protein
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (4g), Maltitol, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean And Cotton Seed Oils

PBL Pure Omega 3
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pbl/pure.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 200; Calories from Fat: 30; Fat Grams: 3.5g; Saturated Fat: 0g
Carbohydrates: 29g; Fiber: 11g; Sugars: 4g; Price: $23.99
Protein blend: Milk Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate, Calcium Caseinate
Dubious Ingredients: None

Universal Protria
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/protria.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 186; Calories from Fat: ??; Fat Grams: 3g; Saturated Fat: 2g
Carbohydrates: 23g; Fiber: 1g; Sugars: 0g; Price: $15.79
Protein blend: soy protein isolates, whey protein concentrate, whey protein isolates)
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohols (20g), maltitol, lactitol

VPX Zero Impact
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/zero.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 448; Calories from Fat: 192; Fat Grams: 21g; Saturated Fat: 5g
Carbohydrates: 42g; Fiber: 4g; Sugars: 7g; Price: $25.79
Protein blend: Whey protein isolate, milk protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, Micellean Micellar Casein Protein
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol

Questions:
1. How bad is Maltitol? I thought it was bad, yet I see it in Zero Impact, which is hailed as one of the two best. Is it something I can ignore?
2. Hydrolyzed gelatin seems to be a very low quality protein. Should I avoid it?
3. Aside from maltitol, lactitol, and any partially hydrogenated oils, what should I consider "dubious ingredients"?

Any help is appreciated--and any corrections, too, because I'm trying to learn. My apologies if this is better served in another forum.

[ZDub212]

Hello, all. I'm making my first post because I'm a novice with little health knowledge until recently. Somehow I managed to miss stumbling upon this forum, and I've learned more in the last few days of reading than the months beforehand.

After reading about 50 pages of this extremely long and informative thread, I started collating information about the various protein bars to help my understanding of them. After doing so, I discovered I have some questions, and then thought it might be helpful for other rookies out there that want an easy comparison. Obviously, these aren't all of the bars out there, but it's a fair sample of what people have discussed.

I used the ingredient information from the BB store.

AST Vyo-Pro
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/vyobar.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 200; Calories from Fat: 60; Fat Grams: 7g; Saturated Fat: 1g
Carbohydrates: 24g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 0g; Price: $16.98
Protein blend: total milk protein, calcium caseinate, whey protein concentrate, ion exchange whey protein isolate, hydrolyzed whey protein concentrate, egg albumin, l-glutamine
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol, partially hydrogenated soybean oil

Clif Builder
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clif/build.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 270; Calories from Fat: 70; Fat Grams: 8g; Saturated Fat: 4.5g
Carbohydrates: 30g; Fiber: 3g; Sugars: 22g; Price: $19.89
Protein blend: Soy Protein Isolate
Dubious Ingredients: None

DS Sustain
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/sustain.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 300; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 1.5g
Carbohydrates: 35g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 16g; Price: $22.49
Protein blend: Sodium caseinate, whey protein concentrate, soy protein isolate
Dubious Ingredients: None

Jay Robb JayBar
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/jay/bar.html
Protein: 15g; Calories: 240; Calories from Fat: 100; Fat Grams: 11g; Saturated Fat: 2g
Carbohydrates: 22g; Fiber: 5g; Sugars: 9g; Price: $35.88
Protein blend: whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (5g)

Labrada Lean Body Gold
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/lab/gold.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 330; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 6g
Carbohydrates: 32g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 9g; Price: $22.99
Protein blend: Whey Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Isolate, Milk Protein Isolate
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol syrup, Hydrolyzed Gelatin

Met-RX Protein Plus
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/met/bars.html
Protein: 32g; Calories: 320; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 8g
Carbohydrates: 32g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 2g; Price: $23.99
Protein blend: milk protein concentrate, calcium sodium caseinate, whey protein isolate, hydrolyzed whey protein, whey protein concentrate, egg white, l-glutamine
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (19g), Maltitol

MHP Probolic SR
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/probar.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 310; Calories from Fat: 90; Fat Grams: 10g; Saturated Fat: 5g
Carbohydrates: 28g; Fiber: 1g; Sugars: 6g; Price: $29.99
Protein blend: Milk Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Isolate, Calcium Caseinate, Whey Protein Concentrate, BCAA Blend, Soy Protein
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (4g), Maltitol, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean And Cotton Seed Oils

PBL Pure Omega 3
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pbl/pure.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 200; Calories from Fat: 30; Fat Grams: 3.5g; Saturated Fat: 0g
Carbohydrates: 29g; Fiber: 11g; Sugars: 4g; Price: $23.99
Protein blend: Milk Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate, Calcium Caseinate
Dubious Ingredients: None

Universal Protria
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/protria.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 186; Calories from Fat: ??; Fat Grams: 3g; Saturated Fat: 2g
Carbohydrates: 23g; Fiber: 1g; Sugars: 0g; Price: $15.79
Protein blend: soy protein isolates, whey protein concentrate, whey protein isolates)
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohols (20g), maltitol, lactitol

VPX Zero Impact
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/zero.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 448; Calories from Fat: 192; Fat Grams: 21g; Saturated Fat: 5g
Carbohydrates: 42g; Fiber: 4g; Sugars: 7g; Price: $25.79
Protein blend: Whey protein isolate, milk protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, Micellean Micellar Casein Protein
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol

Questions:
1. How bad is Maltitol? I thought it was bad, yet I see it in Zero Impact, which is hailed as one of the two best. Is it something I can ignore?
2. Hydrolyzed gelatin seems to be a very low quality protein. Should I avoid it?
3. Aside from maltitol, lactitol, and any partially hydrogenated oils, what should I consider "dubious ingredients"?

Any help is appreciated. Apologies if this is better served in another forum.

Excellent first post! :)

1. Malitol isn't too bad, but it does have a higher GI than most sugar alcohols...is it better to avoid it in favor of natural ingredients? Yes. Is it the devil? No. Also, VPX Zero Impact does not contain malitol, that's a bb.com mistake.

2. Avoid hydrolyzed gelatin or collagen if they are the MAIN protein sources. Some bars contain them, but they are the very last ingredient as far as protein goes...that's ok.

3. High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar (In high amounts especially), Fully Hydrogenated Oils, Partially Hydrogenated Oils, Certain Sugar Alcohols (Although not all are bad), Corn Syrup, Maltodextrin, & Dextrose.

[Rodzilla]

thats a first post?! damn, repped.

I HATE hydrogenated oils

[Buff_Daddy]

Meh...not only is there nothing special about these bars, but they also contain partially hydrogenated oils.

I missed the hydrogenated oils...damn, dont think ill be eating them again. VPX FTW.

[adishong]

I have tried several but depending on how many calories, fat, and protein you are looking for it will vary as far as taste goes. I am a big advocate of Detour, Labrada Gold Bar (I have tried the Lean but taste is bad), and there was a muffin type bar I tried that was good but the name escapes me. You may just want to go down to your local supplement store and pick a few and try them. I wanted at least 30 grams of protein the calories I did not care much about since I eat them mainly when I am traveling for the convenience.

[uhockey]

Why, whats the problem with this product?...


Meh...not only is there nothing special about these bars, but they also contain partially hydrogenated oils.


thats a first post?! damn, repped.

I HATE hydrogenated oils


I missed the hydrogenated oils...damn, dont think ill be eating them again. VPX FTW.

People should read the labels on EVERYTHING they injest or apply.


Hello, all. I'm making my first post because I'm a novice with little health knowledge until recently. Somehow I managed to miss stumbling upon this forum, and I've learned more in the last few days of reading than the months beforehand.

After reading about 50 pages of this extremely long and informative thread, I started collating information about the various protein bars to help my understanding of them. After doing so, I discovered I have some questions, and then thought it might be helpful for other rookies out there that want an easy comparison. Obviously, these aren't all of the bars out there, but it's a fair sample of what people have discussed.

I used the ingredient information from the BB store.

AST Vyo-Pro
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/vyobar.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 200; Calories from Fat: 60; Fat Grams: 7g; Saturated Fat: 1g
Carbohydrates: 24g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 0g; Price: $16.98
Protein blend: total milk protein, calcium caseinate, whey protein concentrate, ion exchange whey protein isolate, hydrolyzed whey protein concentrate, egg albumin, l-glutamine
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol, partially hydrogenated soybean oil

Clif Builder
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clif/build.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 270; Calories from Fat: 70; Fat Grams: 8g; Saturated Fat: 4.5g
Carbohydrates: 30g; Fiber: 3g; Sugars: 22g; Price: $19.89
Protein blend: Soy Protein Isolate
Dubious Ingredients: None

DS Sustain
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/sustain.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 300; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 1.5g
Carbohydrates: 35g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 16g; Price: $22.49
Protein blend: Sodium caseinate, whey protein concentrate, soy protein isolate
Dubious Ingredients: None

Jay Robb JayBar
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/jay/bar.html
Protein: 15g; Calories: 240; Calories from Fat: 100; Fat Grams: 11g; Saturated Fat: 2g
Carbohydrates: 22g; Fiber: 5g; Sugars: 9g; Price: $35.88
Protein blend: whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (5g)

Labrada Lean Body Gold
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/lab/gold.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 330; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 6g
Carbohydrates: 32g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 9g; Price: $22.99
Protein blend: Whey Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Isolate, Milk Protein Isolate
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol syrup, Hydrolyzed Gelatin

Met-RX Protein Plus
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/met/bars.html
Protein: 32g; Calories: 320; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 8g
Carbohydrates: 32g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 2g; Price: $23.99
Protein blend: milk protein concentrate, calcium sodium caseinate, whey protein isolate, hydrolyzed whey protein, whey protein concentrate, egg white, l-glutamine
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (19g), Maltitol

MHP Probolic SR
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/probar.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 310; Calories from Fat: 90; Fat Grams: 10g; Saturated Fat: 5g
Carbohydrates: 28g; Fiber: 1g; Sugars: 6g; Price: $29.99
Protein blend: Milk Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Isolate, Calcium Caseinate, Whey Protein Concentrate, BCAA Blend, Soy Protein
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (4g), Maltitol, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean And Cotton Seed Oils

PBL Pure Omega 3
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pbl/pure.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 200; Calories from Fat: 30; Fat Grams: 3.5g; Saturated Fat: 0g
Carbohydrates: 29g; Fiber: 11g; Sugars: 4g; Price: $23.99
Protein blend: Milk Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate, Calcium Caseinate
Dubious Ingredients: None

Universal Protria
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/protria.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 186; Calories from Fat: ??; Fat Grams: 3g; Saturated Fat: 2g
Carbohydrates: 23g; Fiber: 1g; Sugars: 0g; Price: $15.79
Protein blend: soy protein isolates, whey protein concentrate, whey protein isolates)
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohols (20g), maltitol, lactitol

VPX Zero Impact
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/zero.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 448; Calories from Fat: 192; Fat Grams: 21g; Saturated Fat: 5g
Carbohydrates: 42g; Fiber: 4g; Sugars: 7g; Price: $25.79
Protein blend: Whey protein isolate, milk protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, Micellean Micellar Casein Protein
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol

Questions:
1. How bad is Maltitol? I thought it was bad, yet I see it in Zero Impact, which is hailed as one of the two best. Is it something I can ignore?
2. Hydrolyzed gelatin seems to be a very low quality protein. Should I avoid it?
3. Aside from maltitol, lactitol, and any partially hydrogenated oils, what should I consider "dubious ingredients"?

Any help is appreciated--and any corrections, too, because I'm trying to learn. My apologies if this is better served in another forum.

VERY well done. As for Malitol, it is fine in low doses. Hydrolyzed gelatin is low quality, but IMO not harmful, just "mostly useless"

HFCS and transfats pretty much top the list of "I wouldn't eat a bar that contains it, even as a cheat"



Excellent first post! :)

1. Malitol isn't too bad, but it does have a higher GI than most sugar alcohols...is it better to avoid it in favor of natural ingredients? Yes. Is it the devil? No. Also, VPX Zero Impact does not contain malitol, that's a bb.com mistake.

2. Avoid hydrolyzed gelatin or collagen if they are the MAIN protein sources. Some bars contain them, but they are the very last ingredient as far as protein goes...that's ok.

3. High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar (In high amounts especially), Fully Hydrogenated Oils, Partially Hydrogenated Oils, Certain Sugar Alcohols (Although not all are bad), Corn Syrup, Maltodextrin, & Dextrose.

[Fitsho]

Hello, all. I'm making my first post because I'm a novice with little health knowledge until recently. Somehow I managed to miss stumbling upon this forum, and I've learned more in the last few days of reading than the months beforehand.

After reading about 50 pages of this extremely long and informative thread, I started collating information about the various protein bars to help my understanding of them. After doing so, I discovered I have some questions, and then thought it might be helpful for other rookies out there that want an easy comparison. Obviously, these aren't all of the bars out there, but it's a fair sample of what people have discussed.

I used the ingredient information from the BB store.

AST Vyo-Pro
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/vyobar.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 200; Calories from Fat: 60; Fat Grams: 7g; Saturated Fat: 1g
Carbohydrates: 24g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 0g; Price: $16.98
Protein blend: total milk protein, calcium caseinate, whey protein concentrate, ion exchange whey protein isolate, hydrolyzed whey protein concentrate, egg albumin, l-glutamine
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol, partially hydrogenated soybean oil

Clif Builder
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clif/build.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 270; Calories from Fat: 70; Fat Grams: 8g; Saturated Fat: 4.5g
Carbohydrates: 30g; Fiber: 3g; Sugars: 22g; Price: $19.89
Protein blend: Soy Protein Isolate
Dubious Ingredients: None

DS Sustain
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/sustain.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 300; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 1.5g
Carbohydrates: 35g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 16g; Price: $22.49
Protein blend: Sodium caseinate, whey protein concentrate, soy protein isolate
Dubious Ingredients: None

Jay Robb JayBar
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/jay/bar.html
Protein: 15g; Calories: 240; Calories from Fat: 100; Fat Grams: 11g; Saturated Fat: 2g
Carbohydrates: 22g; Fiber: 5g; Sugars: 9g; Price: $35.88
Protein blend: whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (5g)

Labrada Lean Body Gold
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/lab/gold.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 330; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 6g
Carbohydrates: 32g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 9g; Price: $22.99
Protein blend: Whey Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Isolate, Milk Protein Isolate
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol syrup, Hydrolyzed Gelatin

Met-RX Protein Plus
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/met/bars.html
Protein: 32g; Calories: 320; Calories from Fat: 80; Fat Grams: 9g; Saturated Fat: 8g
Carbohydrates: 32g; Fiber: 2g; Sugars: 2g; Price: $23.99
Protein blend: milk protein concentrate, calcium sodium caseinate, whey protein isolate, hydrolyzed whey protein, whey protein concentrate, egg white, l-glutamine
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (19g), Maltitol

MHP Probolic SR
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/probar.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 310; Calories from Fat: 90; Fat Grams: 10g; Saturated Fat: 5g
Carbohydrates: 28g; Fiber: 1g; Sugars: 6g; Price: $29.99
Protein blend: Milk Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Isolate, Calcium Caseinate, Whey Protein Concentrate, BCAA Blend, Soy Protein
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohol (4g), Maltitol, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean And Cotton Seed Oils

PBL Pure Omega 3
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pbl/pure.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 200; Calories from Fat: 30; Fat Grams: 3.5g; Saturated Fat: 0g
Carbohydrates: 29g; Fiber: 11g; Sugars: 4g; Price: $23.99
Protein blend: Milk Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate, Calcium Caseinate
Dubious Ingredients: None

Universal Protria
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/protria.html
Protein: 20g; Calories: 186; Calories from Fat: ??; Fat Grams: 3g; Saturated Fat: 2g
Carbohydrates: 23g; Fiber: 1g; Sugars: 0g; Price: $15.79
Protein blend: soy protein isolates, whey protein concentrate, whey protein isolates)
Dubious Ingredients: Sugar Alcohols (20g), maltitol, lactitol

VPX Zero Impact
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/zero.html
Protein: 30g; Calories: 448; Calories from Fat: 192; Fat Grams: 21g; Saturated Fat: 5g
Carbohydrates: 42g; Fiber: 4g; Sugars: 7g; Price: $25.79
Protein blend: Whey protein isolate, milk protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, Micellean Micellar Casein Protein
Dubious Ingredients: Maltitol

Questions:
1. How bad is Maltitol? I thought it was bad, yet I see it in Zero Impact, which is hailed as one of the two best. Is it something I can ignore?
2. Hydrolyzed gelatin seems to be a very low quality protein. Should I avoid it?
3. Aside from maltitol, lactitol, and any partially hydrogenated oils, what should I consider "dubious ingredients"?

Any help is appreciated--and any corrections, too, because I'm trying to learn. My apologies if this is better served in another forum.

Again, there is NO maltitol in VPX ZI bars, that is a bb.com error - check the VPX website for up-to-date product information :D

Edit: and yes, Maltitol can really do some damage to your gastrointestinal tract - not much fun imo :eek:

[MAS2208]

check the VPX website for up-to-date product information

Speaking of up to date product information when are we going to get the Fudge Brownie flavor already? We've been waiting, quite eagerly, for about a year . . .

[Fitsho]

Speaking of up to date product information when are we going to get the Fudge Brownie flavor already? We've been waiting, quite eagerly, for about a year . . .

you and me both! I can honestly say I do not think we will be releasing any new flavors any time during the next 6 months.

[FitJess26]

I have tried to cut bars out of my diet because they are so high in fat and sugar alcohols, but once in a while if I'm on the go I like the Worldwide Pure Protein bars, S'Mores or choc. chip, or the Muscle Milk banana yogurt bars.

[lyon812]

Excellent first post! :)

1. Malitol isn't too bad, but it does have a higher GI than most sugar alcohols...is it better to avoid it in favor of natural ingredients? Yes. Is it the devil? No. Also, VPX Zero Impact does not contain malitol, that's a bb.com mistake.

2. Avoid hydrolyzed gelatin or collagen if they are the MAIN protein sources. Some bars contain them, but they are the very last ingredient as far as protein goes...that's ok.

3. High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar (In high amounts especially), Fully Hydrogenated Oils, Partially Hydrogenated Oils, Certain Sugar Alcohols (Although not all are bad), Corn Syrup, Maltodextrin, & Dextrose.

Thanks for the response (both you and others!) I feel like I'm taking a crash course in biology. I also appreciate you clarifying the error regarding VPX bars. I don't seem to have editing capability or I would have put a note in my original post correcting it. Granted, I might simply be unable to find the button. :)

[Fitsho]

Thanks for the response (both you and others!) I feel like I'm taking a crash course in biology. I also appreciate you clarifying the error regarding VPX bars. I don't seem to have editing capability or I would have put a note in my original post correcting it. Granted, I might simply be unable to find the button. :)

simply press the button that says "edit" at the bottom right of that particular post. Well, it might be too late to edit now, I am not sure how many days the forums give you to make edits.

[zkid002]

simply press the button that says "edit" at the bottom right of that particular post. Well, it might be too late to edit now, I am not sure how many days the forums give you to make edits.

Hey VPXSports...well, since your here, and posting, might as well dedicate this post to you..(and my love for VPX!!)

So I LOVE VPX BARS!..huge finatic of the PUMPKIN SUPREME!..Eat em basically, well, DAILY!..:)..lol..and so for the first time, while my mom was in my room, she was starving!..shes like, oh what the hell, gimme a piece of one of those protein bars your eatin!..So im like im going to warn you, this is the best, and its amazing nutritionally, lol..and she actually liked it!..pretty cool I suppose. :)..quite happy my momma now supports the Protein Bars shes gettin me!..(and enjoying them with me as well!)..(reps for you!!) (get me back!)..

[Fitsho]

Hey VPXSports...well, since your here, and posting, might as well dedicate this post to you..(and my love for VPX!!)

So I LOVE VPX BARS!..huge finatic of the PUMPKIN SUPREME!..Eat em basically, well, DAILY!..:)..lol..and so for the first time, while my mom was in my room, she was starving!..shes like, oh what the hell, gimme a piece of one of those protein bars your eatin!..So im like im going to warn you, this is the best, and its amazing nutritionally, lol..and she actually liked it!..pretty cool I suppose. :)..quite happy my momma now supports the Protein Bars shes gettin me!..(and enjoying them with me as well!)..(reps for you!!) (get me back!)..

aww :o this is so sweet! Thanks for dedicating your post to me. It definitely brightened my day :D

I am glad you like the pumpkin bars so much, and your mom nows likes them too! Maybe she will like the chocolate PB better; get her one to try. Looks like you will have to be buying more bars at one purchase now :eek:

[zkid002]

aww :o this is so sweet! Thanks for dedicating your post to me. It definitely brightened my day :D

I am glad you like the pumpkin bars so much, and your mom nows likes them too! Maybe she will like the chocolate PB better; get her one to try. Looks like you will have to be buying more bars at one purchase now :eek:

Ha!..Definately!!..You guys are great! :)..(btw, love the comment under the rep you gave! ;)..lol)..

[Fitsho]

Ha!..Definately!!..You guys are great! :)..(btw, love the comment under the rep you gave! ;)..lol)..

yeah, but you didn't rep me?!?! :mad:

edit: I'm off to the gym! Peace out peeps!!!

[micdaddy]

Not nuts...they are very high quality...complete package of flavor, high quality protein sources, and a very nice ingredient profile, but I would say that VPX ZI & PBL Pure Omega & Sustain are tops in the market.

Just tried the VPX Zero Impact bars. Darn good. Thanks for the recommendation.

[ZDub212]

Just tried the VPX Zero Impact bars. Darn good. Thanks for the recommendation.

I'm glad you liked them. They are top notch.

[Raven1466]

Just tried the VPX Zero Impact bars. Darn good. Thanks for the recommendation.

I had the chocolate peanut butter yesterday; good stuff. I will definitely be purchasing a box to mix up my protein intake throughout theday. Peace!

[Rodzilla]

I had the chocolate peanut butter yesterday; good stuff. I will definitely be purchasing a box to mix up my protein intake throughout theday. Peace!

Don't forget to add it into your fat macros.

[Dm84]

I'm eating a Supreme Protein bar for the first time. It tastes amazing.

[uhockey]

Hey VPXSports...well, since your here, and posting, might as well dedicate this post to you..(and my love for VPX!!)

So I LOVE VPX BARS!..huge finatic of the PUMPKIN SUPREME!..Eat em basically, well, DAILY!..:)..lol..and so for the first time, while my mom was in my room, she was starving!..shes like, oh what the hell, gimme a piece of one of those protein bars your eatin!..So im like im going to warn you, this is the best, and its amazing nutritionally, lol..and she actually liked it!..pretty cool I suppose. :)..quite happy my momma now supports the Protein Bars shes gettin me!..(and enjoying them with me as well!)..(reps for you!!) (get me back!)..

Where is the DS/Sustain bar love? :(

[shoopster]

I really want to try the VPX zero impact bars, I'm just worried about the fat and carbs. Would you consider them healthy or just okay to eat

[Buff_Daddy]

I really want to try the VPX zero impact bars, I'm just worried about the fat and carbs. Would you consider them healthy or just okay to eat


This isnt the 80s and fat isnt the "culprit" anymore. Healthy beyond a doubt...they are very calorie dense though, so depending on your overall goals, you will have to fit them in accordingly. But seeing as your 6'2 152, you don't have to worry about downing a few bars!

[lionmanlionman]

the best bars i have had are the AST's Vyopro bars. they are soft with 20 grams of protein and zero sugar

[Rodzilla]

the best bars i have had are the AST's Vyopro bars. they are soft with 20 grams of protein and zero sugar

I used to get these, they seemed incredibly solid macro-wise

then i found hydrogenated oils

[zkid002]

I really want to try the VPX zero impact bars, I'm just worried about the fat and carbs. Would you consider them healthy or just okay to eat

Dont even want to get started on explaining this...But bottom line is, if you get over it in your brain, then eat them, if your brain cant get over it, go sustain!..

[Fitsho]

I really want to try the VPX zero impact bars, I'm just worried about the fat and carbs. Would you consider them healthy or just okay to eat

some of the other board members have already answered this, but I just want to reiterate that the fat content in these bars are all "healthy fats" consisting of EFAs, CLA, Sesamin, All omegas, etc etc; and the carbs come strictly from complex carbs such as oats, pumpkin, sweet potato, etc etc

[njmuscle66]

some of the other board members have already answered this, but I just want to reiterate that the fat content in these bars are all "healthy fats" consisting of EFAs, CLA, Sesamin, All omegas, etc etc; and the carbs come strictly from complex carbs such as oats, pumpkin, sweet potato, etc etc

any chance the warehouse returned my package to you :(

[Fitsho]

any chance the warehouse returned my package to you :(

I thought you told me not to worry about it :confused:

[njmuscle66]

I thought you told me not to worry about it :confused:

sent ya a note

[Fitsho]

sent ya a note

I sent ya one back :D

[shoopster]

I went to GNC and purchased a VPX Zero Impact Protein bar - chocolate peanut butter, I'm gonna have it tomorow and I can't wait, I'm starting my bulk now as well.

[johnderriLLL]

payday

[ttle25]

Promax!!!! any one of them is good especially the fudge

[nintendodude]

VPX zero impact. best bar period.

[clark101]

without a doubt...met-rx big100 super cookie crunch..mm.like a herseys bar.

[shoopster]

some of the other board members have already answered this, but I just want to reiterate that the fat content in these bars are all "healthy fats" consisting of EFAs, CLA, Sesamin, All omegas, etc etc; and the carbs come strictly from complex carbs such as oats, pumpkin, sweet potato, etc etc

I ate the chocaolate peanut butter and it was DELICIOUS! I swear it tastes like a brownie, I will be ordering a box for sure! I was just curious though, you said the fats are all healthy fats, but it has 5 grams of saturated fat, and you said the carbs come from complex carbs but there is like 7 grams of sugar and sugar is a simple carb. I'm a little lost there, but anyway they were by far the best protein bar I have ever tried, a big thumbs up, excellent.

[fleezy]

without a doubt...met-rx big100 super cookie crunch..mm.like a herseys bar.


Hell yeah I think.. I can't remember what it was called but that sounds familiar and it was ****ing amazing. Like 50g of protein or something, I cant remember.

I rarely buy bars, but I was starving one day and that hit the spot. If I ever were to get into protein bars Id just make my own.

[uhockey]

I'm completely out of Sustain bars......and that sucks. :D

[40-Yard Dash_2]

I'm completely out of Sustain bars......and that sucks. :D

When the new shipment comes in you should stock up!

Heck, you can have my box, as Mr. Crohn's here can't eat them.

[ZDub212]

I ate the chocaolate peanut butter and it was DELICIOUS! I swear it tastes like a brownie, I will be ordering a box for sure! I was just curious though, you said the fats are all healthy fats, but it has 5 grams of saturated fat, and you said the carbs come from complex carbs but there is like 7 grams of sugar and sugar is a simple carb. I'm a little lost there, but anyway they were by far the best protein bar I have ever tried, a big thumbs up, excellent.

Saturated fats aren't bad for you.

The sugar is from natural sources.

[blackdream71]

THIS BAR IS AMAZING!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nrg/nrg.htm


and it's NOT made in Egypt. :)

[Wild-N-Sick]

I've been having VPX ZI for the past 3-4 months and I can't complain; their ingredients are top of the line, and they don't taste bad, either.

[DMBsAmricanBaby]

I looooove these bars, I'm addicted!

Met-RX bars in chocolate chip cookie dough

http://apollocommerce.com/bin/productimages/MR-021.jpg

[cakedonkey]

I looooove these bars, I'm addicted!

Met-RX bars in chocolate chip cookie dough

http://apollocommerce.com/bin/productimages/MR-021.jpg



The nutrition facts on those are a complete and utter joke.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

THIS BAR IS AMAZING!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nrg/nrg.htm


and it's NOT made in Egypt. :)

I'm failing to see just what in the hell is so special about that bar, but hopefully you can offer up an explanation in order to do so?

Also, what difference does it make where the bar is produced?

[Raven1466]

So whats the scoop with the musclemilk bars? Are they any good; I haven't seen anybody post on these yet. They are on sale at my vitamin shoppe for 30% off a box and I would like to give them a try. Anybody try them and reccomend it? Thanks.

[Blue Blazer]

The only bar I tried was Meso-Tech, the taste wasn't bad, but imo the sugar alcohols kill it..

Why do these protein bars have such a high content of sugar alcohols? Are sugar alcohols good? (I know nothing about protein bars, nor suagr alcohols)

Just wondering why they contain so much of it..

JM

[Dm84]

The only bar I tried was Meso-Tech, the taste wasn't bad, but imo the sugar alcohols kill it..

Why do these protein bars have such a high content of sugar alcohols? Are sugar alcohols good? (I know nothing about protein bars, nor suagr alcohols)

Just wondering why they contain so much of it..

JMYou either get sugar alcohols, sugar (usually HFCS), or artificial sweeteners like aspartame or Splenda.

The bars would taste terrible without some form of sweetener.

[DMBsAmricanBaby]

The nutrition facts on those are a complete and utter joke.

why do you say that?

[Sibrek]

why do you say that?

They have around 25g of sugar? Not too unlike Sustain bars which proudly boast their 18ish g of sugar. Haha

[DMBsAmricanBaby]

They have around 25g of sugar? Not too unlike Sustain bars which proudly boast their 18ish g of sugar. Haha

yeah but it's got 28 grams of protein :D


how about the Met-rx Protein Plus bars? they only have 1 gram of sugar :D but 28 grams of Sugar Alcohol

[Sibrek]

Met-RX bars are all pretty ****ty. I eat one before bed almost every night :) Delicious

[DMBsAmricanBaby]

Met-RX bars are all pretty ****ty. I eat one before bed almost every night :) Delicious

oh really? :p

[Sibrek]

It's probably the equivalent of a snickers bar with a scoop of protein on the side, honestly. If you just look at the ingredients, its a bunch of random crap/sugar alcohols.

Doesn't bother me though, eating clean is a waste of time for the most part.

[DMBsAmricanBaby]

It's probably the equivalent of a snickers bar with a scoop of protein on the side, honestly. If you just look at the ingredients, its a bunch of random crap/sugar alcohols.

Doesn't bother me though, eating clean is a waste of time for the most part.

you're right...I guess it was too good to be true :D

[Buff_Daddy]

you're right...I guess it was too good to be true :D


if youre after taste mostly, get the sustain bar...all natural ingredients and rivals most candy bars in taste.

[DMBsAmricanBaby]

k, will do, thanks :D

do you know where they sell them?

[40-Yard Dash_2]

They have around 25g of sugar? Not too unlike Sustain bars which proudly boast their 18ish g of sugar. Haha

Two completely different forms of sugar.

Sustain Bar's sugars are natural, not artificial crap or sugar alcohols. Also, each bar contains 16 g of sugar.

[uhockey]

if youre after taste mostly, get the sustain bar...all natural ingredients and rivals most candy bars in taste.

Quoted for truth!


k, will do, thanks :D

do you know where they sell them?

bodybuilding.com as well as other fine merchants across the internet!

[seville55]

Muscle Milk Bars. Taste great and good profile.

[Raven1466]

Muscle Milk Bars. Taste great and good profile.

Thanks for the response.

[hjayss]

they have a great tasting selection and the profil is very good for bodybuilding. They are by labrada..I buy them by the 12 pak have em while at work. Detour also makes some great bars tste and they make two diffrent sizes one I call on a bulk and the other is the cut size...

[ZDub212]

they have a great tasting selection and the profil is very good for bodybuilding. They are by labrada..I buy them by the 12 pak have em while at work. Detour also makes some great bars tste and they make two diffrent sizes one I call on a bulk and the other is the cut size...

Excellent. Which is your favorite? I really like the Texas Pecan Praline myself.

[Fitsho]

Excellent. Which is your favorite? I really like the Texas Pecan Praline myself.

wow that sounds delicious!

[giametta88]

what about biochem's Greens and Whey bars?

http://www.vitacost.com/Store/images/images100/015794019084.jpg

Total Fat: 12g
Saturated Fat: 1.5g
Protein 20g.

Some good fat in these. Low saturated content.

Organic peanut butter, organic agave nectar, whey protein isolate, chocolate coating (whole grain malted barley and corn, unsweetened chocolate, cocoa butter, non-GMO lecithin, pure natural vanilla), brown rice syrup, Biochemﾒs raw greens blend (chlorella [cracked cell], non-GMO lecithin, apple fiber, organic alfalfa grass juice powder, organic barley juice powder, organic wheat grass juice powder, organic spirulina, brown rice germ, spinach leaf powder, broccoli powder, carrot powder, royal jelly, acerola berry juice powder, beet juice powder, green tea extract, milk thistle extract, licorice root powder, L-acidophilus, grape seed and skin extract, parsley leaf powder,billberry extract, pea powder, mixed tocopherol), organic quinoa powder.

Tons of healthy stuff, plus they taste great. I like em because it's good for energy with no refined sugar, transfat, or hydrogenated oils.

Jay Robb's Jay Bars also look good, anyone take them?

I refuse to put any of that Detour, U-Turn, NitroTech, or any of your other assorted candy bars in my system. Garbage.

[mdlwt]

Hands down....Zero Impact bars!! Pb choc are unreal! This is the ONLY bar I eat and since I have been dieting since June I have not had one since then! So yeah....can't even talk about them anymore! Another week and a half when I'm done with both shows that is one of the first things I'm craving to be honest with you!

[powerkid68]

Prosouce Supreme Protein Bar is by far the best protein bar on the market. I am surprised that no one else listed it as the best.. If you haven't tried one do it, they're unreal 30 grams protein too.

[nni]

Prosouce Supreme Protein Bar is by far the best protein bar on the market. I am surprised that no one else listed it as the best.. If you haven't tried one do it, they're unreal 30 grams protein too.

read the ingredients, then say that again.

[blackdream71]

Also, what difference does it make where the bar is produced?

because it matters to me, that's why. :rolleyes:

[big_addz]

i just ordered a box of designer whey protein bars (low sugar) hopefully there good!

[shenanniguns]

I like the lean body bars from Labrada. They are probably the best tasting ones on the planet. They make me full too! Caramel cookie twist yummy!

[ZDub212]

I like the lean body bars from Labrada. They are probably the best tasting ones on the planet. They make me full too! Caramel cookie twist yummy!

I'm glad you like them...are newest ones (Texas Pecan Praline) are delicious as well...even better than the Caramel Cookie Twist IMO.

[Dm84]

Prosouce Supreme Protein Bar is by far the best protein bar on the market. I am surprised that no one else listed it as the best.. If you haven't tried one do it, they're unreal 30 grams protein too.I had one of these last week and it was amazing.

[Jake2458]

Hey, I just orderd a pack of Sustain Bars, think I spelt it wrong.

I heard some good things about them.

I never really had protein bars before (besides just trying them out once in a while)

Im wondering when you guys usually have a bar or two.

Thanks

[nni]

Hey, I just orderd a pack of Sustain Bars, think I spelt it wrong.

I heard some good things about them.

I never really had protein bars before (besides just trying them out once in a while)

Im wondering when you guys usually have a bar or two.

Thanks

good stuff. let me know how you like them.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

Im wondering when you guys usually have a bar or two.

Thanks

You can eat a bar in between meals in you're bulking for extra kcals, or you can eat them as a meal replacement (breakfast, lunch, snack, etc) if you're cutting cals. Either way, they're perfect for on-the-go!

[Jake2458]

I will probaly just have one for breakfeast.

And then one for after workout, instead of a shake?

[40-Yard Dash_2]

I will probaly just have one for breakfeast.

And then one for after workout, instead of a shake?

That'll work.

[Sibrek]

I will probaly just have one for breakfeast.

And then one for after workout, instead of a shake?

I wouldn't really have 2 in a day. They're pretty bad for you. (bunch of sugar) I would have it just for postworkout if anything.

[nni]

I wouldn't really have 2 in a day. They're pretty bad for you. (bunch of sugar) I would have it just for postworkout if anything.

sustain bars are not really bad for you.

[Sibrek]

sustain bars are not really bad for you.

Oh, right. Your bars with 16g of sugar are magically healthy :)

[shenanniguns]

I'm glad you like them...are newest ones (Texas Pecan Praline) are delicious as well...even better than the Caramel Cookie Twist IMO.

I honestly can say I am impressed with your line of protein products. They helped me swear off junk food.

[ZDub212]

I honestly can say I am impressed with your line of protein products. They helped me swear off junk food.

Glad to hear it! They are unbelievably delicious! :)

[haiz69]

Oh, right. Your bars with 16g of sugar are magically healthy :)

Natural and non-processed. Sure. Variety is the key. You shouldn't get all of your carbs from simple sugar, but 16g is not a big deal.

[Sibrek]

Natural and non-processed. Sure. Variety is the key. You shouldn't get all of your carbs from simple sugar, but 16g is not a big deal.
I'm sure your bars are processed...


I agree, but you don't think two of those bars per day is excessive? If anything, it should be 1 every few days.

[reaper55]

Has anyone seen those new pure protein revolution bars?? They look as if they are one of the best bar out there because 90% of the 32 grams of protein comes from whey none of that soy bull sh**. plus lots of vitamins and minerals.