Best Overall Protein Bars?

[uhockey]

Uhockey, the honey source in the Sustain bars is that raw honey? I believe you posted that it is raw honey, but I cannot remember.

That is what I've been told, though obviously the cooking process to set the bars changes that a bit.

[Elliptical Envy]

That is what I've been told, though obviously the cooking process to set the bars changes that a bit.

I am still down for the inclusion of raw honey, even though, once it is cooked the honey will lose some of the health benefits. Props to DS for the Sustain bars I will pick some up again eventually when I am on the go a lot.

[fpjesuits55]

big 100...awesome stuff. great taste. fills me up.

[uhockey]

big 100...awesome stuff. great taste. fills me up.

FULL of junk ingredients.

[IrockZ]

uhockey with the amount of whoring u do for designer, i really hope they pay you well, however sustain and sustain bars both happen to be my favorites in their categories, lol at least ur not pushing some ****ty stuff. ha sustain bars are ****in amazing but their too small. and sustain powder goddamn i eat it dry out the little plastic cup so.. u get the idea.

[bravo03_old]

uhockey with the amount of whoring u do for designer, i really hope they pay you well, however sustain and sustain bars both happen to be my favorites in their categories, lol at least ur not pushing some ****ty stuff. ha sustain bars are ****in amazing but their too small. and sustain powder goddamn i eat it dry out the little plastic cup so.. u get the idea.

hes just speaking the truth....big 100 is full of junk, he points of the bad parts in the bars people either ask about or give a quick review on, HE CAN VOICE HIS OPINION , and yes sustain bars is great :)

[dareman2]

Both flavors of Universal Nutrition's HIProtein Bars are great. As far as taste, they aren't too bad compared to many. They don't taste as good as some of those camoflaged candy bars, but with 33/34 g protein, 6/6.5 g fat and 3/4 g net carbs, they can't be beat for the price. Chocolate Peanut Butter and Chocolate Fudge (or brownie...?) are the flavors. They also come 16 to the box, not 12. I used to eat Revolution and Nitro Tech, but now I'm sold on UN's outright!

[IrockZ]

hes just speaking the truth....big 100 is full of junk, he points of the bad parts in the bars people either ask about or give a quick review on, HE CAN VOICE HIS OPINION , and yes sustain bars is great :)

i know, it was one of his posts that made me order sustain.. thank god for him lol.. but i got a question.. do they retail sustain anywhere or do u have to go online./? cuz i have NEVER seen it in any supplement shops around here.. and i have been everywhere at one time or another.. believe me.

[Sixpack]

I have not seen it retailed, MIke always speaks the truth that is why I respect him

[njmuscle66]

sustain bars are ****in amazing but their too small. and sustain powder goddamn i eat it dry out the little plastic cup so.. u get the idea.
Funny story
I ordered the Vanilla Almond a short while ago I figured I would use them as a "cheat" during my precontest prep. Something to look forward to once in awhile. I think I went through 6 in the first 2-3 days so I shipped them over to the girlfriend. I couldnt be trusted. She tried them and loved them. Gave a few to her friends and they all ordered them.

My son eats the penut butter ones quite alot and I feel alot better him having them as a snack than some of the other choices

[njmuscle66]

uhockey with the amount of whoring u do for designer, i really hope they pay you well,


We really don't think of Mike as a whore.............more of a high priced call girl if you ask me :)

[IrockZ]

Funny story
I ordered the Vanilla Almond a short while ago I figured I would use them as a "cheat" during my precontest prep. Something to look forward to once in awhile. I think I went through 6 in the first 2-3 days so I shipped them over to the girlfriend. I couldnt be trusted. She tried them and loved them. Gave a few to her friends and they all ordered them.

My son eats the penut butter ones quite alot and I feel alot better him having them as a snack than some of the other choices

lol sounds like the same reason i cant keep jars of peanut butter in my house, they tend to disappear alot.. especially when i cut.. i have a funny story for u too.. one night i hae no recollection of this i apparently sleep walked into the kitchen and ate an entire jar of pb.. cause wehen i went to bed it was full, and no1 in my house had any that night and when i woke up i stank of it.. lol i cant be trusted.

[IrockZ]

We really don't think of Mike as a whore.............more of a high priced call girl if you ask me :)

lmfao good ****.. ur main office is in new hyde park long island right?

[Sixpack]

I cannot find the protein anywhere dammit I am going through withdrawls

[uhockey]

I cannot find the protein anywhere dammit I am going through withdrawls

Me too. :( :(

[uhockey]

uhockey with the amount of whoring u do for designer, i really hope they pay you well, however sustain and sustain bars both happen to be my favorites in their categories, lol at least ur not pushing some ****ty stuff. ha sustain bars are ****in amazing but their too small. and sustain powder goddamn i eat it dry out the little plastic cup so.. u get the idea.

I'm quite underpaid, actually, especially given my soon-to-be-credentials. I do this job because A) I enjoy it B) I love the people I work with C) It is nice to see people who want to improve/maintain their health instead of get better from illness on occassion D) I believe in the company.


hes just speaking the truth....big 100 is full of junk, he points of the bad parts in the bars people either ask about or give a quick review on, HE CAN VOICE HIS OPINION , and yes sustain bars is great :)

Thanks. I'm proud of the bars and the protein. Products with HFCS should be avoided on the same level as trans fats, IMO


i know, it was one of his posts that made me order sustain.. thank god for him lol.. but i got a question.. do they retail sustain anywhere or do u have to go online./? cuz i have NEVER seen it in any supplement shops around here.. and i have been everywhere at one time or another.. believe me.

Glad you love your pusher.


I have not seen it retailed, MIke always speaks the truth that is why I respect him

:)


Funny story
I ordered the Vanilla Almond a short while ago I figured I would use them as a "cheat" during my precontest prep. Something to look forward to once in awhile. I think I went through 6 in the first 2-3 days so I shipped them over to the girlfriend. I couldnt be trusted. She tried them and loved them. Gave a few to her friends and they all ordered them.

My son eats the penut butter ones quite alot and I feel alot better him having them as a snack than some of the other choices

I have better self restraint....kinda....but they go quick.


We really don't think of Mike as a whore.............more of a high priced call girl if you ask me :)

You're just jealous that you're not my favorite DS member.


lmfao good ****.. ur main office is in new hyde park long island right?

Yes.

[iguana29]

43 PAGES

Which WAS the best in the end?

[40-Yard Dash_2]

43 PAGES

Which WAS the best in the end?

The Sustain Bar. :p

[Captain Sagara]

I came to the realization,that neither one in the market is actually good,it's just a semi-clean cheat...

[livingloca]

I love Labrada's Lean Body Gold Bars...... ALMOND FUDGE! 30 grams of protein, 330 cals; 9 g fat, 9 g sugars. It is soooo good.

It sooooooo tastes like a Snicker's bar :)

Just don't make the mistake of getting the Caramel Almond Fudge.. it is YUK.

[grapemaster]

worldwide sports nutrition pure protein, low carb, low price, awesome flavors... (esp smores, marshmallow peanut eclipse and blueberry cheesecake)
they are low carb which is good b/c the only time I eat them is out at night or something, don't need all the other carbs in the mrp bars, just the protein.
Its one of the only ones that fits into macros late at night for me. I eat one maybe once a week if that.

[boyscouT]

Not really protein bars per se, but damn, I love these wafer protein bars...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/iss/wafer.html

PB cup = to die for.

[weldtech]

Greens and Whey bars.

[uhockey]

Answer is still Sustain Bar. :)

[BrutusBeefy]

I enjoy a muscle sandwich every once in a while...they are freaking awesome however they are not good for you. Also, I found this payday pro protein bar it was pretty tasty. the labrade lean body bars are good and I used to be a fan of the detours but i cant even eat one anymore.

[spectre226]

I love the CLIF BUILDER'S peanut butter too, so good, with 200cal., 8 gr. fat, 20 gr. pr., good for a meal replacement

[polinutrigirl]

I keep hearing how great these bars are. Are they only available online, or can I find them in a store?

[uhockey]

I keep hearing how great these bars are. Are they only available online, or can I find them in a store?

Online, and we can barely keep them in stock there. We cannot yet keep up with demand to put them in stores.

[njmuscle66]

Mike-YOU are going to have to deal with the gf when you see her at the Olympia. She ordered 2 boxes of Sustain bars Monday night from a site. Today she got a call they are out of stock............She was livid:)

But they were in stock when I ordered them, that is not right, I need my bars, etc I said maybe if she agreed to do another karaoke song with Steve he might throw her a box

I learned a valuable lesson today. No messing with a woman's Sustain bars

[uhockey]

Mike-YOU are going to have to deal with the gf when you see her at the Olympia. She ordered 2 boxes of Sustain bars Monday night from a site. Today she got a call they are out of stock............She was livid:)

But they were in stock when I ordered them, that is not right, I need my bars, etc I said maybe if she agreed to do another karaoke song with Steve he might throw her a box

I learned a valuable lesson today. No messing with a woman's Sustain bars

LoL. Damn. Talk to Steve, NOT me. :)

[GetShredded]

Uhockey

What is sodium caseniete or whatever that first ingredient is? Want to try them but never found anything on it.

[uhockey]

Uhockey

What is sodium caseniete or whatever that first ingredient is? Want to try them but never found anything on it.

A high quality casein source. Not as high quality as Micellar, but better stability for heating/making bars.

[RB2006]

I like the chocolate chip cookie dough Next Detour Oatmeal bars. 30g of protein and 440 calories... I use it as a during-work snack

[sunray73]

yeah I have to agree that Sustain bars are tasty and have excellent stats but it's on the pricey side. Can't they skip the extra cost on boxing them individually and just use the wrapper??? Anything to bring down the price would be awesome...

[lopaw]

worldwide sports nutrition pure protein, low carb, low price, awesome flavors... (esp smores, marshmallow peanut eclipse and blueberry cheesecake)
they are low carb which is good b/c the only time I eat them is out at night or something, don't need all the other carbs in the mrp bars, just the protein.
Its one of the only ones that fits into macros late at night for me. I eat one maybe once a week if that.

Absolutely! These are my faves too....they make both 20g & 32g protein bars.
I like the 20g bars after workouts - they are low in calories (170-190 per bar) for the amount of protein they offer, and they actually taste pretty good. I especially like the chocolate deluxe & strawberry shortcake flavors.

They also sell them at my local supermarket and are often on sale...you can't beat that!

[uhockey]

yeah I have to agree that Sustain bars are tasty and have excellent stats but it's on the pricey side. Can't they skip the extra cost on boxing them individually and just use the wrapper??? Anything to bring down the price would be awesome...

Expensive? For a 100% natural bar??? Are you crazy????

[grapemaster]

Absolutely! These are my faves too....they make both 20g & 32g protein bars.
I like the 20g bars after workouts - they are low in calories (170-190 per bar) for the amount of protein they offer, and they actually taste pretty good. I especially like the chocolate deluxe & strawberry shortcake flavors.

They also sell them at my local supermarket and are often on sale...you can't beat that!
country blueberry pie also good, forgot I left that out but its definitely my favorite tasting ever. I get them by the case. It is really hard to want to eat real meals while they are around... I could definitely just eat the bars. Another note I realize they have a lot of stuff in them... but, I'm eating maybe one a week if that so... don't really care that its 100% natural. And they do have sugar alcohol, so not something you can go crazy on anyway so I am kept in check by default :)

on the other hand... for those eating quite a bit more or snacking... read below

couple good posts on here, uhockey pimps sustain a lot but its definitely the best total mrp on the market. also really liked how you even said the bad side that its not micellar casein, most reps wouldn't bother mentioning quality of the protein, just saying "oh its good"... very cool of you.

[uhockey]

The difference between me and "most reps" is that I actually have a lot of say on what goes into our products....as such, if I don't believe in it, it has less of a chance of being made by us. :)

[Buff_Daddy]

Now that I have tried them I have to agree with Uhockey that they are awesome... I got the vanilla almond and I just ordered 2 more boxes. I feel that they just have the right amount in it to keep you going and i love how they taste 10/10 while being all natural.

[uhockey]

Now that I have tried them I have to agree with Uhockey that they are awesome... I got the vanilla almond and I just ordered 2 more boxes. I feel that they just have the right amount in it to keep you going and i love how they taste 10/10 while being all natural.

Thanks Buff. Another glowing review. :D

[zkid002]

PBL- Pure Omega 3 Protein Bars...has anyone ever tried these bars?....description is pretty good..ingredients look good...but has anyone ever tried them?...here is the link, check it out, and give opinions please, because i might order them.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pbl/pure.html

[jslee21]

PBL- Pure Omega 3 Protein Bars...has anyone ever tried these bars?....description is pretty good..ingredients look good...but has anyone ever tried them?...here is the link, check it out, and give opinions please, because i might order them.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pbl/pure.html

They are very mild in flavor and very soft and chewy. I did not think they tasted all that bad but if you want a bar that is very sweet this bar is not for you. I tend to like shakes/bars that are not overly sweet. The only bad thing is that these bars did not keep me full for very long.

[DottsBaller5]

The Metrx Big 100 Meal Replacement bars are great...and it has a lot of stuff in it (27g protein, no trans fat, calcium). The chocolate chip cookie dough flavor is so good.

I have a question here though, do bars work anywhere near as good as shakes?

[HTML_Rulez_D00d]

Are the Animal Snack bars any good?

[jonflesh]

PBL- Pure Omega 3 Protein Bars...has anyone ever tried these bars?....description is pretty good..ingredients look good...but has anyone ever tried them?...here is the link, check it out, and give opinions please, because i might order them.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pbl/pure.html

I think these are a great tasting bar. I agree with the last post that says they are not overly sweet and def not candy bar tasting, but good tasting non the less. Plus the profile of these bars are amazing. I would def recommend them.

[The Brotherhood]

just finished my box of DS Sustain Vanilla Almond bars. Meh, id give them a 6.5/10 in flavor and 8/10 in texture. The PB fudge was a 9/10 in flavor and 9/10 in texture. Ill be ordering the PB fudge from now onwards.

[uhockey]

just finished my box of DS Sustain Vanilla Almond bars. Meh, id give them a 6.5/10 in flavor and 8/10 in texture. The PB fudge was a 9/10 in flavor and 9/10 in texture. Ill be ordering the PB fudge from now onwards.

Interesting, normally people like VA over PB, but regardless, glad you like one or the other. Great product, great price, top notch natural ingredients.....the only thing better is whole food.

[zkid002]

I think these are a great tasting bar. I agree with the last post that says they are not overly sweet and def not candy bar tasting, but good tasting non the less. Plus the profile of these bars are amazing. I would def recommend them.

Thanks, will do, i will go out and get these bars, along with the sustain bars that i hear about non-stop...but does anyone know where i can purchase these bars without ordering them online?..any stores that you guys have got them from?..or only the internet?

[uhockey]

Online. In stock, and cheaper. Gas is expensive. :)

[dpihitithard]

Thanks, will do, i will go out and get these bars, along with the sustain bars that i hear about non-stop...but does anyone know where i can purchase these bars without ordering them online?..any stores that you guys have got them from?..or only the internet?

I love Detours and Labrada Lean Golds...they mk some good tasting and low sugar bars! PLUS i got boxes of 12 for 5 to 9 bucks a box at GNC(i never shop there btw) since they were 2 months from exp...Niice ;).

[jonflesh]

Thanks, will do, i will go out and get these bars, along with the sustain bars that i hear about non-stop...but does anyone know where i can purchase these bars without ordering them online?..any stores that you guys have got them from?..or only the internet?

If your talking about the omega 3 bars i have only seen them online, i don't know any stores that carry them. Also, when i spoke of the taste I was refering to the chocolate fudge flavor as i have yet to try the peanut butter.

[mrgregbaa]

well i have tryed myoplex double chocolate they have around 30 or 32 grams of protein and taste amazing, and southbeach diet bars 19 grams of protein and like eating rice krispies treats with sand in them.

Greg Baer

[zkid002]

I love Detours and Labrada Lean Golds...they mk some good tasting and low sugar bars! PLUS i got boxes of 12 for 5 to 9 bucks a box at GNC(i never shop there btw) since they were 2 months from exp...Niice ;).

what do you mean by they were 2 months from exp?

[stoptherun51]

ISS oh yeah bars

[uhockey]

ISS oh yeah bars

Oh No. Look at those ingredients.

[jslee21]

If your talking about the omega 3 bars i have only seen them online, i don't know any stores that carry them. Also, when i spoke of the taste I was refering to the chocolate fudge flavor as i have yet to try the peanut butter.


I preferred the chocolate fudge over the peanut butter flavor bar.

[sbaker514]

ATKINS ADVANTAGE bars - Chocolate peanut butter flavor

240 calories
19g protein
11g fat
22g carbs
1g sugar
0g sugar alcohols
10g fiber!

These are delicious and they are higher in fiber than any protein bar I've seen.

[Maxfits202]

x2 those atkins bars are sooo good

[dpihitithard]

what do you mean by they were 2 months from exp?

2-3 months from expiring i ment...

[jonflesh]

ATKINS ADVANTAGE bars - Chocolate peanut butter flavor

240 calories
19g protein
11g fat
22g carbs
1g sugar
0g sugar alcohols
10g fiber!

These are delicious and they are higher in fiber than any protein bar I've seen.

The pbl omega 3 bars have 11 grams of fiber

[zkid002]

the omega has 11g of fiber!..wow thats amazing to go along with all the other stuff that is great about it...when i checked the nutrition facts and decided they seemed great, that was without the fiber!...omega along with the sustain are on the way..will tell you how i like it when they come :)

[jonflesh]

the omega has 11g of fiber!..wow thats amazing to go along with all the other stuff that is great about it...when i checked the nutrition facts and decided they seemed great, that was without the fiber!...omega along with the sustain are on the way..will tell you how i like it when they come :)

I agree omega 3 are the best protein bar available, while zi are the best meal replacement bar on the market. Sustain has a great profile but I haven't tried them yet (because they can't seem to keep these on the shelves) so im omitting them from my consideration, but if reviews are any indication they are tops as well.

[uhockey]

I agree omega 3 are the best protein bar available, while zi are the best meal replacement bar on the market. Sustain has a great profile but I haven't tried them yet (because they can't seem to keep these on the shelves) so im omitting them from my consideration, but if reviews are any indication they are tops as well.

They're in stock at many places. Try 'em. ;)

[jonflesh]

They're in stock at many places. Try 'em. ;)

i def will sometime soon

[grapemaster]

welp I will be dropping my pure protein bars for sure... was just going through the label and they have trans fat, and it looks by where it is on the label to be a decetn amount.

check this thread for more info
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=43262481#post43262481

[uhockey]

welp I will be dropping my pure protein bars for sure... was just going through the label and they have trans fat, and it looks by where it is on the label to be a decetn amount.

check this thread for more info
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=43262481#post43262481

Sustain welcomes you with open arms, and no artifical ingredients. ;)

[zkid002]

WOW..just had my first sustain bar, it has 10/10 taste!!...and a whopping 11/10 for the great ingredients nutrition!..great bar, a must try, and must have.

[uhockey]

WOW..just had my first sustain bar, it has 10/10 taste!!...and a whopping 11/10 for the great ingredients nutrition!..great bar, a must try, and must have.

Glad you liked it. Which flavor?

[zkid002]

Peanut Butter Fudge!..great taste..amazing bar.

[uhockey]

Peanut Butter Fudge!..great taste..amazing bar.

Indeed. Vanilla Almond is even better, IMO!

[NKWulf]

Indeed. Vanilla Almond is even better, IMO!

My son agrees. I have to order him his own box. I like them both equally. My wife likes the PBF.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Who makes these again?

[uhockey]

Who makes these again?

Designer Supplements, kiddo.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Designer Supplements, kiddo.
Damn... I hate it when e-jokes don't work.

[polinutrigirl]

Online, and we can barely keep them in stock there. We cannot yet keep up with demand to put them in stores.

Are they for women as well as men?

[IrockZ]

so i havent heard much about this product called the "Sustain Bar" can someone enlighten me.. lol

[dvsness]

Are they for women as well as men?

How can a protein bar be gender specific?

[nni]

How can a protein bar be gender specific?

pink wrapping?

[uhockey]

Are they for women as well as men?

Yes ma'am.


so i havent heard much about this product called the "Sustain Bar" can someone enlighten me.. lol

They rock.


How can a protein bar be gender specific?

Soy? ;) Or VV


pink wrapping?

[IrockZ]

pink wrapping?



hahaa

[DMBsAmricanBaby]

Anyone ever try these? they're soo yummy!

http://www.walgreens.com/dbimagecache/313196.jpg

Nutrition Facts:
Serving Size: 1 bar (50g)

Amount/Serving %Daily Value**
Calories 180
Calories from Fat 45

Total Fat 5g* 8%
Saturated Fat 2g 10%
Trans Fat 0g 0%
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 250mg 10%
Total Carbohydrate 30g 10%
Fiber 6g 24%
Soluble Fiber 1g
Insoluble Fiber 5g
Sugars 13g
Protein 9g 13%

Vitamin A 0%
Vitamin C 15%
Calcium 20%
Iron 10%
Vitamin E 35%
Vitamin B6 25%
Vitamin B12 25%
Magnesium 10%
Zinc 15%
Folic Acid 25%

[IrockZ]

Anyone ever try these? they're soo yummy!

http://www.walgreens.com/dbimagecache/313196.jpg

Nutrition Facts:
Serving Size: 1 bar (50g)

Amount/Serving %Daily Value**
Calories 180
Calories from Fat 45

Total Fat 5g* 8%
Saturated Fat 2g 10%
Trans Fat 0g 0%
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 250mg 10%
Total Carbohydrate 30g 10%
Fiber 6g 24%
Soluble Fiber 1g
Insoluble Fiber 5g
Sugars 13g
Protein 9g 13%

Vitamin A 0%
Vitamin C 15%
Calcium 20%
Iron 10%
Vitamin E 35%
Vitamin B6 25%
Vitamin B12 25%
Magnesium 10%
Zinc 15%
Folic Acid 25%

anything that has more sugar than protein = candy = garbage... lotta carbs for only 180 cals also...

[Jbert112]

zoneperfect strawberry yogurt.

[uhockey]

zoneperfect strawberry yogurt.


lol.

[Lubnani]

Proteon Bar

Good Texture, good ratios for me, good amount of sugar.

I think it is good, but not the best, I try to eat real food, protein bars are emergency food.

[polinutrigirl]

How can a protein bar be gender specific?

I just meant how some bars are really high in calories, mostly for guys gaining mass. And Luna bars, of course, can be eaten by men AND women, but they are marketed toward women. That's just what I intended to say.

[polinutrigirl]

anything that has more sugar than protein = candy = garbage... lotta carbs for only 180 cals also...

I love Kashi. It doesn't have THAT much sugar for a natural bar (no crap). If you are concerned about carbs, you probably don't want to use it, but not everyone is.

[vosdawg]

Pro Source Supreme Protein
Met-Rx Big 100
Met-Rx Protein Plus
Main ingredient=Whey Isolate

[IrockZ]

Pro Source Supreme Protein
Met-Rx Big 100
Met-Rx Protein Plus
Main ingredient=Whey Isolate

x2 pro source supreme protein are fuking amazing.. but it has partially hydrogenated soy bean oil in it.. as does the metrx bars.. but i usually eat around 3 or 4 a week anyway lol. those pro source bars aint easy to find either..

[ZDub212]

Best protein bars for the profile (Tast great too)

Sustain
Zero Impact
PBL Omega
Universal HI

Great tasting bars (Not necessarily a good profile)
Labrada (Sweet & Salty, Fruit Crunch, Cookie Bars)
Met Rx (All kinds are pretty delicious)
MesoTech/NitroTech (All are great as well)

[dvsness]

I just meant how some bars are really high in calories, mostly for guys gaining mass. And Luna bars, of course, can be eaten by men AND women, but they are marketed toward women. That's just what I intended to say.

At 90 lbs, I recommend high calorie everything. :(


I love Kashi. It doesn't have THAT much sugar for a natural bar (no crap). If you are concerned about carbs, you probably don't want to use it, but not everyone is.

But to be considered a PROTEIN bar, there should be more protein than sugar. Total carbs are ok, but sugar??

[Vaporize]

Just bought a case of sustain vanilla almond, and now im buying 5 more cases! What does that say about my vote?

[uhockey]

Pro Source Supreme Protein
Met-Rx Big 100
Met-Rx Protein Plus
Main ingredient=Whey Isolate

Main ingredient = Artificial crap, plus whey isolate.


Best protein bars for the profile (Tast great too)

Sustain
Zero Impact
PBL Omega
Universal HI


Agreed.


Just bought a case of sustain vanilla almond, and now im buying 5 more cases! What does that say about my vote?

Awesome. :)

[Jimmy p]

sustain vanilla almond does taste real good!

[DottsBaller5]

How come:

Metrx Big 100 Bar
27 g protein (54% daily value)

and

Metrx Protein Plus Bar
32 g protein (45% daily value, for other flavor, 36 % daily value)

How does more protein equal a lesser daily value for the Protein Plus than the Big 100???? Is it lesser quality protein or something? I don't get that

[dvsness]

How come:

Metrx Big 100 Bar
27 g protein (54% daily value)

and

Metrx Protein Plus Bar
32 g protein (45% daily value, for other flavor, 36 % daily value)

How does more protein equal a lesser daily value for the Protein Plus than the Big 100???? Is it lesser quality protein or something? I don't get that

Ignore the percentages. They are irrelevant to bb'ing goals. Hell, I think they're irrelevant to anyone's goals. Just go with the grams and see how they fit into your macros.

[zkid002]

Ignore the percentages. They are irrelevant to bb'ing goals. Hell, I think they're irrelevant to anyone's goals. Just go with the grams and see how they fit into your macros.

Ive been hearing the word "macros" alot lately..what is it?!?...dont care if i sound like a newb, because i am just starting.

[polinutrigirl]

At 90 lbs, I recommend high calorie everything. :(

I'm trying to gain weight. Doing it slowly.

But to be considered a PROTEIN bar, there should be more protein than sugar. Total carbs are ok, but sugar??

I agree. I have them mainly as occasional snacks, but not as "protein bars" per se.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

sustain vanilla almond does taste real good!

Hate to say it, but told ya so! :p

[buj77]

zero impact bars

[AntiPizza]

Glad you liked it. Which flavor?

Just noticed your have an ATDI quote. Badass. Also, Sustain kicks ass.

[IrockZ]

detour peanut butter and jelly are fukn awesome, to bad eating a snickers is prolly better for u

[40-Yard Dash_2]

Just noticed your have an ATDI quote. Badass. Also, Sustain kicks ass.

Mike is a bad ass kinda dude. :)

[uhockey]

Just noticed your have an ATDI quote. Badass. Also, Sustain kicks ass.

The powder and the bars both.


Mike is a bad ass kinda dude. :)

I surround myself with kickass people. Makes it easy. :)

[Niklavs]

Mesotech Cookies & Cream

Max's NP

[animal.inside]

Met-Rx Big 100 Colossal Crispy Apple Pie

[suspek24]

To start, the bar tastes great, I could eat pumpkin all day long. Each bar isn't like all other bars, it comes out of the package moist and ready to be eaten. Many others that I've had are very dry and I need to chug 3 gallons of water to get half of it down. The bar has 30 grams of protein, 42 grams of carbs (4g from dietary fiber), and over 400 nutritious calories. But best of all, they have no soy!!!! Soy products have phtyoestrogen which is believed to cause higher estrogen levels and lower testosterone levels in males and may even cause infertility.

[suspek24]

Just bought a case of sustain vanilla almond, and now im buying 5 more cases! What does that say about my vote?

I think it means you like sugar and want a bar with only 20 g of protein

[40-Yard Dash_2]

I think it means you like sugar and want a bar with only 20 g of protein

And your issue with Designer Supplements is..........?


You've got to fill in the blank in case you don't know exactly how this game is played. :)

[Iceiktitan]

Biprotein bars. 1st they are filled with protein and have a decent amount of carbs. 2nd the sugars aren't too high. 3rd and the drawback, some flavors taste like crap!

[jfla32033]

Biprotein bars. 1st they are filled with protein and have a decent amount of carbs. 2nd the sugars aren't too high. 3rd and the drawback, some flavors taste like crap!

u mean bioprotein?

[suspek24]

And your issue with Designer Supplements is..........?


You've got to fill in the blank in case you don't know exactly how this game is played. :)

Didn't know writing on bodybuilding forums was playing a game but, I have no issue with any company, I just prefer different supplements with, in my opinion, better quality. Why take a bar with 20g protein and 16g of sugar? When you could have a Zero Impact bar with 30 g of protein and 42 g of carbs with only 7 g of sugar. You trying to eat a candy bar or protein bar?

[uhockey]

Didn't know writing on bodybuilding forums was playing a game but, I have no issue with any company, I just prefer different supplements with, in my opinion, better quality. Why take a bar with 20g protein and 16g of sugar? When you could have a Zero Impact bar with 30 g of protein and 42 g of carbs with only 7 g of sugar. You trying to eat a candy bar or protein bar?

Do some research. Those "sugar carbs" are from raw honey....read up on its benefit, and its low GI status. A whopping total of 16 g of fructose from raw honey is the nutritional equivalent of about 1/2 of an apple, with the added benefits of honey micronutrients. Most healthy eaters are consuming more than enough fiber and don't need it from a protein bar, either.

Sustain bar is 100% natural (read the ingredients) unlike Zero Impact and tastes better than ZI. It also has FAR less calories.

Both are good bars, but for the intelligent shopper, Sustain bars are "cleaner," and IMO a better choice.

[suspek24]

Do some research. Those "sugar carbs" are from raw honey....read up on its benefit, and its low GI status. A whopping total of 16 g of fructose from raw honey is the nutritional equivalent of about 1/2 of an apple, with the added benefits of honey micronutrients. Most healthy eaters are consuming more than enough fiber and don't need it from a protein bar, either.

Sustain bar is 100% natural (read the ingredients) unlike Zero Impact and tastes better than ZI. It also has FAR less calories.

Both are good bars, but for the intelligent shopper, Sustain bars are "cleaner," and IMO a better choice.

I will do more research on it, I've never heard of Designer Supplements until I came on this forum. But for many people trying to gain weight like myself, and gudging from your picture, we need calories homeboy and you should probably switch.

[Jayman30187]

I would want a bar that is loaded with Protein, Zero Impact offers that. A bar with half the sugar that is in an apple, probably wouldn't taste the best. I doubt that one bar has half the sugar that an apple has if it's the best tasting bar on the market. Taste is opinion though, no way to really prove what taste the best. In most cases the one with the most sugar and fat is going to taste better to most People. If you do alot of cardio, weight lifting and have a good diet, I don't think any protein bar is going to slow down progress. Looks to me the Zero impact is a wise choice for a meal replacement. If you're looking to get huge, a bar with some substance will be good.

[kgru]

PREFACE:
I do not, in any way, have an opinion as to the quality of Sustain Bars or Designer Supplement products in general. Keep that in mind here.

This account was made from an order awhile ago, but this is the first time I ever felt compelled to post about something. More to the point, about uhockey and his shameless derailment of what seems to be a civil, general discussion on various products. Thus, those following this Designer Supplements representative's tune, feel free to criticize at will because of this purpose. I freely admit that, to someone who disagrees with me, that this post will appear troll-ish in nature. Emphasis on appear, though, as if you read more closely, you might... actually agree.

Looking for some feedback on people's reviews of taste on some protein bars, because with a collegiate class schedule that keeps me away from home for a good portion of the day, I was searching for a decent tasting protein bar to hold me over during back-to-back lecture stretches. That search immediately brought me to these forums, and soon thereafter, to this thread. I read the first seven or so pages, then fast-forwarded to what was, at the time, the end. Stunned at what had happened, I skipped again to the middle pages, trying to figure out where this thread went awry. The difference in the tone, the direction, and the purpose of this thread in its beginning and its current state is sickening.

In the beginning, people talked about some protein bars they tried. Up for discussion was the bar's taste, the protein content it had in it, and generally what the BB.com forum members felt was the protein bar's level of healthiness. Good, useful stuff. The multiple, widely varied opinions definitely helped me.

Now, though, this thread has devolved into the uhockey show. What has happened is that uhockey, most definitely succeeding in his designated role, has shifted the entire framework for discussion here. No longer are people talking about products freely. Rather, once this product monger located this thread, the discussion is now Your Protein Bar of Choice v. Sustain Bars. With uhockey flat-out dominating the debate here, Sustain Bars win every time. The problem this presents is that this thread is now nothing more than one long, sustained advertisement for Sustain Bars.

Regardless of the legitimacy of uhockey's claims of its greatness, regardless of the quality of the product, which I - and read this carefully - am not addressing in any positive or negative way, uhockey has managed to stifle discussion on this message board through his derailment here.

This exchange is what I am referring to:

Pro Source Supreme Protein
Met-Rx Big 100
Met-Rx Protein Plus
Main ingredient=Whey Isolate


Main ingredient = Artificial crap, plus whey isolate.

Some guy comes along, posts what he likes. uhockey posts his opinion on the issue, one that has come to resemble gospel in this thread. He has done this for the last 12-15 pages! It stifles discussion, because he is at the keyboard ready to pounce on anyone who suggests anything that is not a Sustain Bar. "Your bar sucks, for x reasons. Sustain Bars are far superior". Go count the number of times someone posts a protein bar, and the number of times uhockey responds to that post by bashing the product and recommending Sustain Bars instead. Disgusted yet?

I give this jerk credit for one thing, and a whole lot of credit at that: he does his job well. The percentage increase in Sustain Bar sales from this thread alone is probably obscene, because people are falling prey to what he wants: you to buy his product. By slamming every other product mentioned, sometimes warranted, sometimes unwarranted, and instead pimping his own product, he has managed to convince a lot of people here that you should either eat a Sustain Bar or garbage.

His arguing technique for promoting Sustain Bars here is quite amateurish and easily seen through. Essentially, he takes what other people recommend and make extremist claims. An analogy for this is with cars. I go to the dealership and buy a brand new Infiniti G35 coupe, fully loaded. Pretty sweet luxury ride. uhockey comes along and says "pfft, you bought a G35? those cars suck compared to a BMW 3 series, you might as well drive a used 1992 Hyundai".

See? Very simplistic in nature. Your protein bar is much better for you than what most people eat for a snack. Does anyone here think, for example, that a Met-Rx Protein Plus bar is worse for you than a pitstop at McDonalds to raid the dollar menu? Of course not! uhockey wants you to believe that your protein bar is not the healthiest protein bar, so what's the point of eating a healthy-but-not-healthiest protein bar? Go eat a whole pizza pie why you are at it instead of that garbage, because its all the same. Hell, down a milkshake with it too, because that is how bad your suggestion is for you. You idiot. Buy my product instead!

And then, of course, he swoops in with his product as the be-all, end-all alternative.

I went a good 7 minutes of typing this without name-calling... but I cannot resist at this point. uhockey is a ridiculously shameless pimp here. Go ahead and make a cute "hey he called me a pimp, I gets the ladies!" joke if you must; the point still remains.

[Hollinator]

best bar? Doctors Carbrite Diet bar. yum yum jus had one

[suspek24]

Sustain bar is 100% natural (read the ingredients) unlike Zero Impact and tastes better than ZI. It also has FAR less calories.

Both are good bars, but for the intelligent shopper, Sustain bars are "cleaner," and IMO a better choice.

Now it's your turn to do some research, from bodybuilding.com's information about Zero Impact protein bars, "Zero Impact MRB's are setting a new standard for what "clean" high protein supplemental nutrition should be: 30 grams high quality protein; nothing artificial; stable blood sugar levels; healthy fats, fiber, and low glycemic carbohydrates!"

It seems to me that you have not done your research because nothing in this bar is artificial and I do not know why you make false claims, now seriously, take your sugary protein bar, throw it in the garbage can
and I will do what kgru doesn't want me to, but get a real protein bar :-P

[kgru]

Oh I don't mind if people blast Sustain bars into oblivion, or other any other brands, because everyone else's intentions are different. You aren't selling something. uhockey is selling something, so that is why he criticizes everyone else's choices, because he wants to put his product on a pedestal. The former generates discussion, the latter turns this into an ongoing informercial. Personally, I look for bars with more protein than 20g of protein, so I wouldn't buy Sustain.

My disdain is for the person, not the product :)

[casimir]

I never had any but these Animal Snak (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/snak.html) bars look decent, at least nutritionally.

[osmos20042000]

I would have to agree with SippinProtein... Zero impact not only has 30g - protein per but has high cal - 448. This is great for those of us trimming down the fat and gaining muscle. It also has a natural fat burner in it (tonalin CLA) There is no other protein bar out there with all this stuff packed in it. The only down side is the price...

[suspek24]

Oh I don't mind if people blast Sustain bars into oblivion, or other any other brands, because everyone else's intentions are different. You aren't selling something. uhockey is selling something, so that is why he criticizes everyone else's choices, because he wants to put his product on a pedestal. The former generates discussion, the latter turns this into an ongoing informercial. Personally, I look for bars with more protein than 20g of protein, so I wouldn't buy Sustain.

My disdain is for the person, not the product :)

That's funny, I feel the same way, but I guess it is their jobs as a rep. Personally I completely agree, I'm trying to gain lean muscle mass which I'm sure we all are but not fat and that's why I love these bars, the calories are perfect since you need calories, and they're all derived from nuts and seeds which are healthy for you. And there isn't any point in taking a bar that has nearly as many grams of sugar as their is protein. 30 grams, go big or go home! :-P

[dvsness]

The Sustain bar and the Zero Impact bar were both favorites of mine but I can no longer support VPX. It's too bad, really. If someone can show me what the hell is in their products (eg testing) I would eat them again. With Sustain, I'm confident that I'm getting that 20g. With VPX, who knows?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1936471&highlight=vpx+label+panel

[FaceThePain]

The one's I really liked...

Met-RX Big 100 Colossal Cookie Crunch
Animal Snak
8 Ball Nutritions protein bar (or was it FSI ?)

[caddimike]

she provided a link in her post to show you exactly what she was referring to in regards to the whole "not knowing whats in the products". follow the link
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1936471&highlight=vpx+label+panel

[dvsness]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1936471&highlight=vpx+label+panel


Pretty easy to find what's in stuff with the search button.

*sigh*


she provided a link in her post to show you exactly what she was referring to in regards to the whole "not knowing whats in the products". follow the link
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1936471&highlight=vpx+label+panel

http://rif.org/images/hm_reader.gif

[bigjuicy]

pure protein bars. 20g protein 0g trans fat 2g sugar. 190 calories in each bar and they taste great. they're soft. chocolate pb's my favorite. they also have 17 carbs and 6 g of fat. 7g of sugar alcohol. not very expensive either.

[pfand]

Source: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/zero.html

"Ingredients:
Proprietary Protein Matrix: Whey protein isolate, milk protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, Micellean Micellar Casein Protein; Proprietary Fat Burning & Healthy Fats Matrix: Peanut Butter, Almond Butter, Sunflower Butter, SesaLean (Sesamin); Semisweet Chocolate, Honey, Maltitol, Whole Grain Oats, 99.7 USP Glycerin, Low DE Corn Syrup, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Pumpkin, Sweet Potato, Dutch Process Cocoa, Lecithin, Potassium Sorbate, Salt, Mixed Tocopherols and/or Graham Cracker Flavor, Xanthan Gum, Oats Rolled."

"ZERO Impact MRB's contain no soy, maltitol, hydrogenated oils or trans fats; artificial flavors, sweeteners or colors..."

"Jack Owoc, CEO and Chief of Research and Development at VPX, has invested 3.5 years into creating the most scientifically advanced and healthy Protein Bar on the planet."


Captain Jack needs to invest in a new editor!

[kgru]

Hey this is awesome. People just discussing protein bars now. Oh, keep in mind that I usually eat two protein bars a week at most, so even though I'm gonna list a bunch of brands, I'm not shoveling these things down. Even though its gonna look that way...

I've tried a whole bunch because of class schedules keeping me unable to get a real meal in, and additionally I often have conferences where squeezing in any food in is hard, so I'll just pick random flavors from convenience stores after finding the bars with the better ingredient profiles. Well, that and the bar needs 30g or more of protein to make it worth my while here. Universal Nutrition is located in the city I go to college in, so I've basically tried all of their protein bar options. That's why I'm gonna list like 4 of them.

Animal Snaks are pretty good. They should reduce the amount of sugar in it. It does claim to have some of the Animal Pak vitamins in it, which is nice if its a sufficient enough amount to do something for you. The peanut butter taste is average at best. Already soft and chewy, so you don't need to drink 16oz of water just to finish it. Oh and they were the cheapest of the lot at the campus convenience store, at $2 per bar. Same protein content as the other stuff offered for a buck less; yes the buck makes a difference to a college kid on a budget when you buy two a week.

Hi-Protein is from the same company, those were my personal favs taste-wise and cost-wise. 16 bars for $25 at some site I wound up finding through Froogle, which is a helluva deal for 34g per bar. Its got more fat than I'd like, but I think the Fudge Brownie bars are delicious. I mean, its an extra two fat grams. I can live with that to get the taste.

Proteon or something is also from Universal Nutrition, and I recommend staying far far away from this thing. The bar is loaded with calories (450), thought it tasted terrible, was very hard to eat, and you get the same amount of protein from cheaper, better tasting bars. This thing was almost a buck more than every other bar, too. What a ripoff.

Met-Rx bars are pretty damn bad, in my opinion. The peanut butter and chocolate ones have a good enough taste, but they were absurdly hard to chew. Much much too dry, need to heat them up and get a bottle of water on standby. Plus side? You get a massive jaw muscle workout from eating them! Also, protein was the second ingredient listed, which is not good.

Pure Protein Smores and Peanut Butter & Jelly were alright. The uniqueness of the flavors made me try them, they were nothing special but definitely had no complaints about them.

Detour bars are too dry and dull for me, personally. Everyone raves about them but I just can't seem to stand the taste. Though, the only flavor I can find around here is Detour Caramel with Peanuts. Maybe their other flavors are better.

Yesterday I found some box of Premier Nutrition Protein Bars at Sams Club. 15 bars of 3 flavors for $13. The price was so damn cheap that I could not resist. Taste-wise, I definitely got what I paid for, cause the chocolate w/ peanut butter was pretty blah. At less than a buck per bar, getting 33g of protein in a small wrapped package is worth it.

[IrockZ]

anyone ever try supreme protein bars by *********? the big 96 gram bars in the orange wrapper... fukn amazing taste..

[Mr.Hombre]

I think it means you like sugar and want a bar with only 20 g of protein

I'm not on uhockey's side by any means, but you seem to have sugarphobia. The sugar in the sustain bar is from a natural source (not refined). Bashing simple carbs is just as unwarrented as bashing complex carbs.

Also, sugar isn't fattening beyond the calories it contains. In terms of refined sugar, it just shouldn't be a staple in the diet, as it lacks micronutrients.

[hungluu00]

I do weight-lifting but my main goal is to lose fat for now. My company has these Zone Perfect bars for free and currently I have 2 of them per day.
Cals : 210
Fat : 7g (4g Sat)
Sodium: 280 mg
Potassium: 120 mg
Carb : 25g
Sugar 17g
Protein: 14g.

I'm wondering if it's good for me since my main goal is to lose weight first. I'm 5'7'' and 172lbs with 20% body fat

[uhockey]

I'm not on uhockey's side by any means, but you seem to have sugarphobia. The sugar in the sustain bar is from a natural source (not refined). Bashing simple carbs is just as unwarrented as bashing complex carbs.

Also, sugar isn't fattening beyond the calories it contains. In terms of refined sugar, it just shouldn't be a staple in the diet, as it lacks micronutrients.

:cool:

[deserusan]

The Sustain bar and the Zero Impact bar were both favorites of mine but I can no longer support VPX. It's too bad, really. If someone can show me what the hell is in their products (eg testing) I would eat them again. With Sustain, I'm confident that I'm getting that 20g. With VPX, who knows?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1936471&highlight=vpx+label+panel

I have to agree. If I were to buy a bar right now it would be Sustain. Natural ingredients go a lot further in my opinion when choosing any MRP type product.

[DC_Ohio]

While I wouldn't qualify it as a hardcore muscle building product, I like the Clif Builder's bar with 20g of protein. It uses all natural ingredients like the original Clif Bar line, and works great for an on the go snack as well.

[uhockey]

I have to agree. If I were to buy a bar right now it would be Sustain. Natural ingredients go a lot further in my opinion when choosing any MRP type product.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. What happened with VPX? I've been out of the loop with moving and such.

[Sixpack]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1936471&highlight=vpx+label+panel



Thanks for the vote of confidence. What happened with VPX? I've been out of the loop with moving and such.

[Kasper419]

anyone ever try supreme protein bars by *********? the big 96 gram bars in the orange wrapper... fukn amazing taste..

Yes, they are insanely good. Always sold out online and 2 7-11's carry them, but at 3 bucks a pop (usually I give in and pay there that good, so good it can be considered a cheat, but from the ingredients they don't look all that bad [the carb concious ones that is, tho loaded with sugar alcohols, which give me insane gas]). Personally their my favorite.

[suspek24]

Thanks for the vote of confidence. What happened with VPX? I've been out of the loop with moving and such.

Ok, i have a response direct from VPX on all of the issues and concerns on the Zero Carb and Zero Impact proteins, the Zero Impact bar and Shotgun. First of all, there are at least 10 VPX sales reps available to answer questions Monday through Friday 9 AM to 6 PM at 800-954-7904 or at info@vpx1.com. Secondly, yes, they have admitted to making typo mistakes on protein labels during the reinvention of their company. ...that is, getting away from being the #1 sellers of prohormones in the world and also having to give up the multi-million dollar liquid ephdra+ product called, Clenbutrx due to these classes of products being reclassified as illegal substances. ...Also, during this chaotic time -- changing the name of Micellean and updating and improving the formula to the improved Zero Impact protein and coming out with Shotgun. The emphasis of the company was in their multimillion dollar research and development lab making new products and unfortunately, during this busy time someone dropped the ball in editing labels.

Are you ready for this? Well, VPX is again updating their Shotgun formula and is also going to have a Shotgun I and Shotgun II stack with seriously improved flavor profiles. Zero Impact and Zero Carb proteins will come in an RTD and will be the world's first 100% cold processed RTD proteins. This is huge because all of the protein RTD's on the market now are boiled at 240 F for a half hour or "Flash Heated" at 260 F for 15 minutes --ouch! VPX believes these current crop of boiled denatured cross linked proteins are not only worthless but are harmful to the body just like denatured trans fatty acids. Owoc said that the VPX cold processed RTD protein innovation is the biggest and most important thing in the history of our industry because of the massive amount of harmful and biologically worthless protein RTD's that are sold daily in gyms and health food stores across the nation.

About The ZI protein bar: Originally, on the first bar run they had 3 grams of maltitol (37 grams under the researched max threshold) in the bar only because the Zero Impact bar was not manufactured in house and the outsource bar manufacturer could not run the bar with VPX's stringent 22 step process and strict nutrition profile containing absolutely NO artificial ingredients. Now the bar is produced at VPX and it contains no maltitol. One of the newer bars coming out will still contain 30 grams of protein with even less sugar and less carbs (obviously) and less saturated fat -- the "Peanut Butter Brownie" bar. These bars took two years to develop and even with VPX giving other bar makers a 22 step process, they could not run VPX's bar. So when some rookie company who out-sources their bar to some candy manufacturer with 20 grams of protein and a ton of simple sugar--16 grams ( a horrible sugar to protein ratio) tries to compare to the ZI Bar, the only thing they are "sustaining" is body fat storage with sugar and "man boobs" with soy protein. No offense but VPX says if you are going to try to jump into their game, you better have the testicular fortitude to handle the heat and back your unfounded rhetoric with science.

VPX apologized for the label confusion and thanks all of its loyal consumers for being patient while this challenge was rectified. Further, they advise everybody to try new Green Apple and Grape flavored Redline RTD's and the cutting edge and outrageous Redline Xtreme RTD (in GNC and Vitamin Shoppe or online retailers) with 3 grams of beta-alanine and the soon-to-be-released and off the chain, Redline Vixen (redlinerush.com).

[TheUnlikelyToad]

So when some rookie company who out-sources their bar to some candy manufacturer with 20 grams of protein and a ton of simple sugar--16 grams ( a horrible sugar to protein ratio) tries to compare to the ZI Bar, the only thing they are "sustaining" is body fat storage with sugar and "man boobs" with soy protein. No offense but VPX says if you are going to try to jump into their game, you better have the testicular fortitude to handle the heat and back your unfounded rhetoric with science.

I'm sure there will be no offense taken.

[dvsness]

VPX apologized for the label confusion and thanks all of its loyal consumers for being patient while this challenge was rectified.

Do you have a batlight or something that you contacted them with? I know of a minimum of four (4) forum members who emailed VPX to no avail. Nfn, but that long winded post did seem like an advertisement. Maybe since they like you so much, you can find out why there are mystery labels and supplement panels still floating around on their protein jugs as well. See the link I posted in this thread earlier.

[njmuscle66]

I'm sure there will be no offense taken.

jordan-were you at the keystone sat?

[njmuscle66]

Do you have a batlight or something that you contacted them with? I know of a minimum of four (4) forum members who emailed VPX to no avail. Nfn, but that long winded post did seem like an advertisement. Maybe since they like you so much, you can find out why there are mystery labeks and suppkement panels floating around on their protein jugs as well. See the link I posted in this thread earlier.

must be a direct phone link to gotham since he doesn't have VPX rep as part of his signature..............

[jonflesh]

vpx never got back to me and all i asked was, when is the brownie zero impact bar is coming out, i've been waiting to try it.

suspek any word on a date since u appear to have some inside info?

[blackdream71]

You should try Sustain Bars.

They do have a great profile. They do keep you full. And I'd rather eat one than a candybar :)

MUMMY POWDER BARS!!!!!


hehehe

[Diab0lic]

Aussie Bodies HPLC (Hi Protein Low Carb) bars are what Im eating now.

100g bar 378 calories each

45.1g protein!

12.2g fat (8.4 sat) not amazing I know, but I dont eat **** all other sat fat

9.5g carbs (8.2 sug)

fibre 14.4g


They dont taste the best in the world (no chocolate coating or anything like that) but they are good and they fill you up like crazy. Sometimes I just have a half bar.

[TheUnlikelyToad]

jordan-were you at the keystone sat?

No, I attended my great grandmother's funeral.

NPC PA looks to be in blitzburg this year. That's 4 hours out... if you are competing for sure, I'll see if I can convince Kim. Anyone else doing tha show?

[njmuscle66]

No, I attended my great grandmother's funeral.

NPC PA looks to be in blitzburg this year. That's 4 hours out... if you are competing for sure, I'll see if I can convince Kim. Anyone else doing tha show?

I will be there for sure. It is the only one I am focusing on for this year. I plan on getting a room so if you needed a place to crash after the show you can always stay in my room You will just have to put up with my son and gf for the night LOL

[pmichel]

I LOVE the Raw Organic bars - the chocolate coconut and the chocolate chip fiber ---- they are not "protein" bars, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'm raw vegan, so there aren't many bars out there I can have, but these are the best!!!!

[suspek24]

vpx never got back to me and all i asked was, when is the brownie zero impact bar is coming out, i've been waiting to try it.

suspek any word on a date since u appear to have some inside info?

Only thing I heard was it's supposed to be good in taste, and probably still in testing, I'm not too sure.

[dvsness]

Do you have a batlight or something that you contacted them with? I know of a minimum of four (4) forum members who emailed VPX to no avail. Nfn, but that long winded post did seem like an advertisement.

Bump. And change that number to five (5).

[G.W. Hayduke]

Bump. And change that number to five (5).
I've emailed VPX and had good communication with them.

[uhockey]

I'm sure there will be no offense taken.

Incorrect. :)

[Kruton]

vpx never got back to me and all i asked was, when is the brownie zero impact bar is coming out, i've been waiting to try it.

suspek any word on a date since u appear to have some inside info?

I was told probably 12 wks.

[Kruton]

Bump. And change that number to five (5).


I called there today, and had no problem reaching a sales rep. When the voicemail prompts come on, all you do is dial "2" and it will connect you to the sales reps who all train and take supplements

[Kruton]

Source: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/zero.html

"Ingredients:
Proprietary Protein Matrix: Whey protein isolate, milk protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, Micellean Micellar Casein Protein; Proprietary Fat Burning & Healthy Fats Matrix: Peanut Butter, Almond Butter, Sunflower Butter, SesaLean (Sesamin); Semisweet Chocolate, Honey, Maltitol, Whole Grain Oats, 99.7 USP Glycerin, Low DE Corn Syrup, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Pumpkin, Sweet Potato, Dutch Process Cocoa, Lecithin, Potassium Sorbate, Salt, Mixed Tocopherols and/or Graham Cracker Flavor, Xanthan Gum, Oats Rolled."

"ZERO Impact MRB's contain no soy, maltitol, hydrogenated oils or trans fats; artificial flavors, sweeteners or colors..."

"Jack Owoc, CEO and Chief of Research and Development at VPX, has invested 3.5 years into creating the most scientifically advanced and healthy Protein Bar on the planet."


Captain Jack needs to invest in a new editor!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltitol

Also, I'm no rocket scientist but know just like any half way intelligent person in the "iron game" that sugar increases insulin and insulin is a fat storage hormone that makes you fat. I read in the Zero Impact Diet book that if there is even one mm of insulin in the blood, you cannot release stored bodyfat into the blood to be burned as energy. There's only three things that make you fat--sugars/processed carbs, Sat. Fat, and taking in too many calories. So a bar with a 16 gram sugar to 20 protein ratio is out of the question. Further, coated bars have no place in body building. I'm sticking with Zero Impact bars because I have personally used these bars to gain nine pounds of pure muscle. They are loaded with good fats and high grade proteins -- the two things you need to grow when you are a hard gainer like me.

I also have dropped a % or two of body fat from playing basketball 2-3 hrs a day, and have managed to maintain all of my muscle gains.

[Kruton]

In support of my original statement:


JAMA. 2007 May 16;297(19):2092-102.


Effects of a low-glycemic load vs low-fat diet in obese young adults: a randomized trial.

Ebbeling CB, Leidig MM, Feldman HA, Lovesky MM, Ludwig DS.

Department of Medicine, Children's Hospital Boston, Boston, Mass 02115, USA.

CONTEXT: The results of clinical trials involving diet in the treatment of obesity have been inconsistent, possibly due to inherent physiological differences among study participants. OBJECTIVE: To determine whether insulin secretion affects weight loss with 2 popular diets. DESIGN, SETTING, AND PARTICIPANTS: Randomized trial of obese young adults (aged 18-35 years; n = 73) conducted from September 2004 to December 2006 in Boston, Mass, and consisting of a 6-month intensive intervention period and a 12-month follow-up period. Serum insulin concentration at 30 minutes after a 75-g dose of oral glucose was determined at baseline as a measure of insulin secretion. Outcomes were assessed at 6, 12, and 18 months. Missing data were imputed conservatively. INTERVENTIONS: A low-glycemic load (40% carbohydrate and 35% fat) vs low-fat (55% carbohydrate and 20% fat) diet. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Body weight, body fat percentage determined by dual-energy x-ray absorptiometry, and cardiovascular disease risk factors. RESULTS: Change in body weight and body fat percentage did not differ between the diet groups overall. However, insulin concentration at 30 minutes after a dose of oral glucose was an effect modifier (group x time x insulin concentration at 30 minutes: P = .02 for body weight and P = .01 for body fat percentage). For those with insulin concentration at 30 minutes above the median (57.5 microIU/mL; n = 28), the low-glycemic load diet produced a greater decrease in weight (-5.8 vs -1.2 kg; P = .004) and body fat percentage (-2.6% vs -0.9%; P = .03) than the low-fat diet at 18 months. There were no significant differences in these end points between diet groups for those with insulin concentration at 30 minutes below the median level (n = 28). Insulin concentration at 30 minutes after a dose of oral glucose was not a significant effect modifier for cardiovascular disease risk factors. In the full cohort, plasma high-density lipoprotein cholesterol and triglyceride concentrations improved more on the low-glycemic load diet, whereas low-density lipoprotein cholesterol concentration improved more on the low-fat diet. CONCLUSIONS: Variability in dietary weight loss trials may be partially attributable to differences in hormonal response. Reducing glycemic load may be especially important to achieve weight loss among individuals with high insulin secretion. Regardless of insulin secretion, a low-glycemic load diet has beneficial effects on high-density lipoprotein cholesterol and triglyceride concentrations but not on low-density lipoprotein cholesterol concentration. TRIAL REGISTRATION: clinicaltrials.gov Identifier: NCT00130299

[jml1980]

i like the vpx zero impact bars as well, im on my second box of pumpkin supreme. Its a unique flavor (kinda tastes more like a brownie) and they are good for when i have class and cant prepare a meal.

[INGENIUM]

Ok, i have a response direct from VPX on all of the issues and concerns on the Zero Carb and Zero Impact proteins, the Zero Impact bar and Shotgun. First of all, there are at least 10 VPX sales reps available to answer questions Monday through Friday 9 AM to 6 PM at 800-954-7904 or at info@vpx1.com. Secondly, yes, they have admitted to making typo mistakes on protein labels during the reinvention of their company. ...that is, getting away from being the #1 sellers of prohormones in the world and also having to give up the multi-million dollar liquid ephdra+ product called, Clenbutrx due to these classes of products being reclassified as illegal substances. ...Also, during this chaotic time -- changing the name of Micellean and updating and improving the formula to the improved Zero Impact protein and coming out with Shotgun. The emphasis of the company was in their multimillion dollar research and development lab making new products and unfortunately, during this busy time someone dropped the ball in editing labels.

Are you ready for this? Well, VPX is again updating their Shotgun formula and is also going to have a Shotgun I and Shotgun II stack with seriously improved flavor profiles. Zero Impact and Zero Carb proteins will come in an RTD and will be the world's first 100% cold processed RTD proteins. This is huge because all of the protein RTD's on the market now are boiled at 240 F for a half hour or "Flash Heated" at 260 F for 15 minutes --ouch! VPX believes these current crop of boiled denatured cross linked proteins are not only worthless but are harmful to the body just like denatured trans fatty acids. Owoc said that the VPX cold processed RTD protein innovation is the biggest and most important thing in the history of our industry because of the massive amount of harmful and biologically worthless protein RTD's that are sold daily in gyms and health food stores across the nation.

About The ZI protein bar: Originally, on the first bar run they had 3 grams of maltitol (37 grams under the researched max threshold) in the bar only because the Zero Impact bar was not manufactured in house and the outsource bar manufacturer could not run the bar with VPX's stringent 22 step process and strict nutrition profile containing absolutely NO artificial ingredients. Now the bar is produced at VPX and it contains no maltitol. One of the newer bars coming out will still contain 30 grams of protein with even less sugar and less carbs (obviously) and less saturated fat -- the "Peanut Butter Brownie" bar. These bars took two years to develop and even with VPX giving other bar makers a 22 step process, they could not run VPX's bar. So when some rookie company who out-sources their bar to some candy manufacturer with 20 grams of protein and a ton of simple sugar--16 grams ( a horrible sugar to protein ratio) tries to compare to the ZI Bar, the only thing they are "sustaining" is body fat storage with sugar and "man boobs" with soy protein. No offense but VPX says if you are going to try to jump into their game, you better have the testicular fortitude to handle the heat and back your unfounded rhetoric with science.

VPX apologized for the label confusion and thanks all of its loyal consumers for being patient while this challenge was rectified. Further, they advise everybody to try new Green Apple and Grape flavored Redline RTD's and the cutting edge and outrageous Redline Xtreme RTD (in GNC and Vitamin Shoppe or online retailers) with 3 grams of beta-alanine and the soon-to-be-released and off the chain, Redline Vixen (redlinerush.com).
VPX Sports is located in Hollywood, FL....is it just a coincidence that you live there?

[G.W. Hayduke]

I see that VPX is bashing artificial sweeteners in the most recent ZI Bar ad. Does this mean that we can expect to see other VPX products go all-natural? I sure hope so.

[Sixpack]

VEry good question?


I see that VPX is bashing artificial sweeteners in the most recent ZI Bar ad. Does this mean that we can expect to see other VPX products go all-natural? I sure hope so.

[suspek24]

VPX Sports is located in Hollywood, FL....is it just a coincidence that you live there?

VPX is actually located in Davie, Florida, can't help where you were born and raised. Right now I'm a student and am transferring to BCC.

[ccs77]

I eat the Pure Protien Bars from Walmart at $5 a box of 6. Peanut butter tastes as close to a real candy bar as it gets.

20 grams of protien
6 grams of fat
17 grams of carbs
2 grams of sugar

Sure is an easy way to boost your protien uptake and get a snack down in the afternoons.

[Kruton]

I used to love the DETOUR bars back when they first came out (before they got bashed for not meeting label claims).

[G.W. Hayduke]

VEry good question?
I for one am against artificial sweeteners and was very happy to see that the ZI bar was all-natural. Consideirng the long list of extremely potent all-natural sweeteners with GRAS approval out there, I'm surprised some companies haven't taken advantage of them. There really is little to no evidence showing sucralose (Splenda) to be safe for regular consumption.

[uhockey]

There really is little to no evidence showing sucralose (Splenda) to be safe for regular consumption.

Where is the evidence indicating it is not?

Doesn't really matter as Sustain Bars are all natural, but I find the artifical sweetener hype to be just that....hype.

[caddimike]

i hope all the reviews are true, i plan to order some boxes of sustain bars in the future to ease into my cut

[uhockey]

i hope all the reviews are true, i plan to order some boxes of sustain bars in the future to ease into my cut

They're true. I generally stick to whole foods when cutting, but if you want a "treat," the sustain bar is a high quality choice.

[Ron Roberson]

Oh Yeh!! I know they lack a lot but what they have is just right for that little hit!.

Ron Roberson

[dvsness]

I used to love the DETOUR bars back when they first came out (before they got bashed for not meeting label claims).

Link? :)

[Kruton]

Link? :)

hahaha give me a little while to search for that one. I thought it was commonly known. They completely redid the bars and they didn't taste nearly as good after it happened. This was like 2-3 yrs ago I think

*EDIT* Not nearly as hard to find as I thought ;) It was here on this VERY site...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/south72.htm

[GetShredded]

I just ordered a box of Sustain PB and VPX Pumpkin. Ill tell you how it goes when I get them.

[fitnfirm]

VPX - MT Nitro Bar - Sustain Bar in no specific order all yummy :)

[deadsix]

Good meal replacement bar is Tri-O-Plex imo
Made from rolled oats ... has fiber .... good amount of protein fat and carbs ... and unlike most bars .. isnt insanely loaded with sugar.
Fills ya up, and very good sourced protein (if i remember correctly)

[dropshot001]

i personally enjoy met rx bars and detour bars. the taste is good and it handles the hunger aspect of things quite nicely.

[INGENIUM]

Good meal replacement bar is Tri-O-Plex imo
Made from rolled oats ... has fiber .... good amount of protein fat and carbs ... and unlike most bars .. isnt insanely loaded with sugar.
Fills ya up, and very good sourced protein (if i remember correctly)
another victim of label claims testing...they failed...higher in sugar and lower in protein

[INGENIUM]

VPX is actually located in Davie, Florida, can't help where you were born and raised. Right now I'm a student and am transferring to BCC.
just find it interesting how you know so much about the company ;)

so many of your sentences started with "VPX says...."

i assume you called them and they just sat down and had a 15 minute chat with you? :D

[suspek24]

just find it interesting how you know so much about the company ;)

so many of your sentences started with "VPX says...."

i assume you called them and they just sat down and had a 15 minute chat with you? :D

:D They will if you call them, but I have only attempted to call them once. I told them about a complaint and got a response. Not hard to do. When you take a companys' product, you tend to follow information about them. I try to not be an uninformed consumer. And when I say "VPX says" it could be from a magazine, their website, phone call, or even bodybuilding.com. :D Thanks for caring so much

[zkid002]

Has anyone tried these bars?..Ive seen no posts on them, what is your opinion on this bar?...does it taste good, do you think the nutrition is good?...It is the highest protein containing bar on the market, i dont see why its not being spoken about...

[zkid002]

Has anyone tried these bars?..Ive seen no posts on them, what is your opinion on this bar?...does it taste good, do you think the nutrition is good?...It is the highest protein containing bar on the market, i dont see why its not being spoken about...

NVM, Just did some research, and i see why now. For those of you that dont know, it contains hydrolyzed collagen as one of its main protein sources(which sucks!), and also, as you read down in the ingredients, it has partially hydrogenated oils, which is TRANS FAT!..

[suspek24]

NVM, Just did some research, and i see why now. For those of you that dont know, it contains hydrolyzed collagen as one of its main protein sources(which sucks!), and also, as you read down in the ingredients, it has partially hydrogenated oils, which is TRANS FAT!..

Lol, good research. I haven't heard of them but I will look at them too.


EDIT: Now that I looked at them, like you said they have trans fat which no one wants, they also have soy which I stay away from completely. But besides that they have a lot of vitamins, loks like a decent bar, but the way it's designed it doesn't look like it tastes good. But who knows? I'd stick with the ZI.

[cnock]

My favorite are still vpx's zero impact. I havent found a better ingredient bar yet. If you have please let me know.

[projectpat06]

My favorite are still vpx's zero impact. I havent found a better ingredient bar yet. If you have please let me know.

i agree, those are the best bars currently out

[GetShredded]

i agree, those are the best bars currently out

Why do you block your face out (no homo),pic just doesn't look right with a big ass white square. Your a freaking beast for 19.

[IrockZ]

DS should bump up the sustain bars and make em big, like 90-95 gram bars.. make 'em like 380 cals.. then they would truly dominate..

[ZDub212]

Why do you block your face out (no homo),pic just doesn't look right with a big ass white square. Your a freaking beast for 19.

Because he is Suspek24 ;)

[warbird00]

i had to see waht all the fuss was about so ordered some sustain bars today
chocolate fudge

[uhockey]

i had to see waht all the fuss was about so ordered some sustain bars today
chocolate fudge

You wont' be disappointed. The Vanilla Almond is better, IMO. :)

[TheUnlikelyToad]

There really is little to no evidence showing sucralose (Splenda) to be safe for regular consumption.

You know, you are probably right and this is why I decided not to send you a tub of ICE per your request. :p

[zkid002]

WOW, What a Bar, The biggest, most satisfying protein bar ive ever had! And what a unique flavor, PUMPKIN! Just saying the word makes me want to go grab a bar!...I just hope that all the fat in it isnt soo bad for me.(Opinions on the fat in VPX Zero Impact Bar)?

[INGENIUM]

i agree, those are the best bars currently out
holy WTF? another 19 year old from hollywood, FL who loves VPX...this is getting ridiculous

[dvsness]

holy WTF? another 19 year old from hollywood, FL who loves VPX...this is getting ridiculous

Lol.

Now that I've finally tried both, PB fudge Sustain bar is better refrigerated, Vanilla Almond is better room temp.

For the VPX crowd, Pumpkin is much better than PB.

[INGENIUM]

Lol.
agreed


Now that I've finally tried both, PB fudge Sustain bar is better refrigerated, Vanilla Almond is better room temp.

once i went vanilla almond there was no turning back :o


For the VPX crowd, Pumpkin is much better than PB.

agreed, although it doesn't exactly taste like pumpkin, its very good

[projectpat06]

holy WTF? another 19 year old from hollywood, FL who loves VPX...this is getting ridiculous

so we arent aloud to state our opinions? vpx started in south fla so we are more familiar with it, their products work better 4 me than ne others....enough said

[G.W. Hayduke]

Where is the evidence indicating it is not?
It's in the lack of evidence showing that it's safe. Of all 100-something studies done on sucralose, very few had anything to do with metabolism or negative health effects; the majority seemed to deal with tooth decay. None were sufficiently long term, IMO. And the few that were done on metabolism prove contrary to what is claimed for sucralose.

Asaprtame is a safer alternative for active individuals, IMO.

[G.W. Hayduke]

You know, you are probably right and this is why I decided not to send you a tub of ICE per your request. :p
Truth be told, it wasn't for me.

Don't get me wrong, I do occasionally use some supps that conatin sucralose, but I try to avoid it. But now I've been slowing removing those supps from my line-up. I've used so many different things over the last 2 years; it blows my mind how useless most of it is. Supplements are more of a mindset than a means to any end. However, this isn't going to stop me from supporting those companies who develop supps that are theoretically innovative or interesting.

[suspek24]

Truth be told, it wasn't for me.

Don't get me wrong, I do occasionally use some supps that conatin sucralose, but I try to avoid it. But now I've been slowing removing those supps from my line-up. I've used so many different things over the last 2 years; it blows my mind how useless most of it is. Supplements are more of a mindset than a means to any end. However, this isn't going to stop me from supporting those companies who develop supps that are theoretically innovative or interesting.

So what are your favorite companies and products?

[G.W. Hayduke]

So what are your favorite companies and products?
Jarrow Formulas and NOW Foods are probably my favorite companies.

It's hard to have a favorite supplement since there are many that I like and find interesting though make little difference in the grand scheme. I'm gonna say X-Factor but most will assume that's only because of my affiliation... whatever. The supps I like the most are the ones that most resemble food such as the different Garden of Life bars and ZI bar. But then one must wonder: why not simply eat good food? I guess it's only a matter of convenience.

[paula6989]

I rotate between the BioNutritional Power Crunch bars, Worldwide Power Protein bars (the small and large sized ones) and Adkins Advantage... I know there are some better bars but so far they work for me! :)

[Gymmy G]

i just tried the muscle milk protein bars they are unvelievable, havent found them many places but i found a site out of canada that sells them , way better than the detours

[bigbadbill]

These I like;
Detour Bars
What's in it?
Serving Size 1 bar (80g)
Bars Per Box: 12
Calories 310
Fat Calories 90
Total Fat (g) 10
Sat. Fat (g) 4
Cholesterol (mg) 40
Sodium (mg) 480
Potassium (mg) 150
Total Carbs (g) 25
Dietary Fiber (g) 3
Sugars (g) 12
Proteins (g) 30
Riboflavin (mg) .1
Folate (mcg) 57
Vit B12 (mcg) .75
Calicium (mg) 140
Iron (mg) .5
Phosphorous (mg) 153
Ingredients: Designer Whey Protein Blend (whey protein concentrate, hydrolyzed whey protein, pduf whey protein isolate), water, Glycerlean? (99.7% USP glycerine, L-leucine, L-taurine, CLA), chocolate coating (sugar, partially hydrogenated palm kernel oil, nonfat dry milk solids, cocoa processed with alkali, whole milk solids, soy lecithin, natural flavor, salt, artificial flavor), peanuts, caramel, soy protein isolate, gelatin, calcium caseinate, inulin, peanut flavor, rice flour, salt, sucralose (Splenda? brand), potassium sorbate. Contains Peanuts.
Bill

[Sixpack]

Glorified candy bar like many are


i just tried the muscle milk protein bars they are unvelievable, havent found them many places but i found a site out of canada that sells them , way better than the detours

[Elliptical Envy]

Truth be told, it wasn't for me.

Don't get me wrong, I do occasionally use some supps that conatin sucralose, but I try to avoid it. But now I've been slowing removing those supps from my line-up. I've used so many different things over the last 2 years; it blows my mind how useless most of it is. Supplements are more of a mindset than a means to any end. However, this isn't going to stop me from supporting those companies who develop supps that are theoretically innovative or interesting.


Jarrow Formulas and NOW Foods are probably my favorite companies.

It's hard to have a favorite supplement since there are many that I like and find interesting though make little difference in the grand scheme. I'm gonna say X-Factor but most will assume that's only because of my affiliation... whatever. The supps I like the most are the ones that most resemble food such as the different Garden of Life bars and ZI bar. But then one must wonder: why not simply eat good food? I guess it's only a matter of convenience.

Well said.

[suspek24]

Jarrow Formulas and NOW Foods are probably my favorite companies.

It's hard to have a favorite supplement since there are many that I like and find interesting though make little difference in the grand scheme. I'm gonna say X-Factor but most will assume that's only because of my affiliation... whatever. The supps I like the most are the ones that most resemble food such as the different Garden of Life bars and ZI bar. But then one must wonder: why not simply eat good food? I guess it's only a matter of convenience.

I have a friend that took X-Factor and loved it, but he also loved every product he ever took :-P I could never take a product like X-Factor considering you can't eat nuts, or omega-3 wasn't it? I forgot since it's been so long since I've heard about it. Eating food is awlays easier said then done, I know from experience considering I'm only 146 and have been stuck here for it seems like forever!

[zkid002]

In about 2-3 weeks i am going to connecticut to spend time with my friends in a camp. The camp has ****ty food, and everyone's parents sends them packages filllleeed with candy!...Since I started bodybuilding this year, i notcied im going to be in real trouble at camp. I have some plans for food supplies to bring, but what bars do you think are the best to take?...In these Categories...

Best Bar(s) for a Meal-?
Best Bar(s) for a Snack-?
Best Bar(s) overall(for anything)-?

[ZDub212]

In about 2-3 weeks i am going to connecticut to spend time with my friends in a camp. The camp has ****ty food, and everyone's parents sends them packages filllleeed with candy!...Since I started bodybuilding this year, i notcied im going to be in real trouble at camp. I have some plans for food supplies to bring, but what bars do you think are the best to take?...In these Categories...

Best Bar(s) for a Meal-?
Best Bar(s) for a Snack-?
Best Bar(s) overall(for anything)-?

For a meal: VPX Zero Impact
For a snack: Sustain Bars
For a treat: Labrada Lean Body Cookie Bars

[zkid002]

For a meal: VPX Zero Impact
For a snack: Sustain Bars
For a treat: Labrada Lean Body Cookie Bars

Sounds good, but what about allll that fat in the Zero Impact Bar?!? Thats a Ton!...Ive been eating them anyway, but whats the info on it?..is it good or bad or what?...please answer, thanks.

[projectpat06]

Sounds good, but what about allll that fat in the Zero Impact Bar?!? Thats a Ton!...Ive been eating them anyway, but whats the info on it?..is it good or bad or what?...please answer, thanks.

as stated before, the fat comes from essential good fats such as nuts and seeds, this may in fact help the fat come off instead of store...i wouldnt worry much about the amount of fat if it is 'good' fats..

[ZDub212]

as stated before, the fat comes from essential good fats such as nuts and seeds, this may in fact help the fat come off instead of store...i wouldnt worry much about the amount of fat if it is 'good' fats..

It's good fat, but I don't really believe that eating food helps you burn fat unless it's a refeed day. But the fact remains, that if the ZI bar is up to par (Label ingredients are true) then it is the best MRB on the market, and those ingredients really would have the low impact that they claim.

[projectpat06]

It's good fat, but I don't really believe that eating food helps you burn fat unless it's a refeed day. But the fact remains, that if the ZI bar is up to par (Label ingredients are true) then it is the best MRB on the market, and those ingredients really would have the low impact that they claim.

exactly, nice post....another thing i like about the bars is that they stay fresh and moist no matter how long they sit around, alot of other bars dont stay preserved as good

[ZDub212]

exactly, nice post....another thing i like about the bars is that they stay fresh and moist no matter how long they sit around, alot of other bars dont stay preserved as good

Pumpkin Spice in the microwave for 10-15 seconds is awesome.

Chocolate PB was ok.

[zkid002]

as stated before, the fat comes from essential good fats such as nuts and seeds, this may in fact help the fat come off instead of store...i wouldnt worry much about the amount of fat if it is 'good' fats..


It's good fat, but I don't really believe that eating food helps you burn fat unless it's a refeed day. But the fact remains, that if the ZI bar is up to par (Label ingredients are true) then it is the best MRB on the market, and those ingredients really would have the low impact that they claim.


Thanks Alot, I knew with how popular the bar is that it cant be "bad fat". Ive been eating them for quite a while, and was confident enough about the bar that i knew the fat in it couldnt have been bad. Also, because my fellow Floridian 's Suspek, and ProjectPat eat em, and love em too. This Bar is amazinggg, go VPX.

[The Brotherhood]

I want to read some reviews on the PBL bars. The ingredient profile is as impeccable as the Sustain or Zero Impact bars, but the macros are alot more convenient.

Any taste reviews? I have a box that should be here by Wednesda

[turbo904]

Precision Engeneered Chocolate peanut butter... freakin delicious! 35g of protein and only 3 sugar... hell yeah

[G.W. Hayduke]

Sounds good, but what about allll that fat in the Zero Impact Bar?!? Thats a Ton!...
Statements like that make me want to slap people.

[G.W. Hayduke]

I have a friend that took X-Factor and loved it, but he also loved every product he ever took :-P I could never take a product like X-Factor considering you can't eat nuts, or omega-3 wasn't it? I forgot since it's been so long since I've heard about it. Eating food is awlays easier said then done, I know from experience considering I'm only 146 and have been stuck here for it seems like forever!
Heh. ;)

The diet recommendations with XF are more lax than they once were. Nuts are fine to eat. It's just EPA (a type of omega-3 oil usually found in fish) needs to be stictly limited.

[TGates13]

I used to really like Detour bars, in fact they were rated as best tasting by Muscle and Fitness. Now I really like the Muscle Milk Protein bars now. I also really like there Ready to Drink protein shakes as well.

[DMBsAmricanBaby]

These I like;
Detour Bars
What's in it?
Serving Size 1 bar (80g)
Bars Per Box: 12
Calories 310
Fat Calories 90
Total Fat (g) 10
Sat. Fat (g) 4
Cholesterol (mg) 40
Sodium (mg) 480
Potassium (mg) 150
Total Carbs (g) 25
Dietary Fiber (g) 3
Sugars (g) 12
Proteins (g) 30
Riboflavin (mg) .1
Folate (mcg) 57
Vit B12 (mcg) .75
Calicium (mg) 140
Iron (mg) .5
Phosphorous (mg) 153
Ingredients: Designer Whey Protein Blend (whey protein concentrate, hydrolyzed whey protein, pduf whey protein isolate), water, Glycerlean? (99.7% USP glycerine, L-leucine, L-taurine, CLA), chocolate coating (sugar, partially hydrogenated palm kernel oil, nonfat dry milk solids, cocoa processed with alkali, whole milk solids, soy lecithin, natural flavor, salt, artificial flavor), peanuts, caramel, soy protein isolate, gelatin, calcium caseinate, inulin, peanut flavor, rice flour, salt, sucralose (Splenda? brand), potassium sorbate. Contains Peanuts.
Bill

I was going to get those but they have too much Sat fat for me..

[IrockZ]

ate a total of 4 sustain bars yesterday. ****ed up my macros but goddamn they are good, thank u DS

[Sixpack]

INless you are low carb I would not worry about it man, the carbs are natural from honey etc


ate a total of 4 sustain bars yesterday. ****ed up my macros but goddamn they are good, thank u DS

[IrockZ]

lol ive been runnin hardcore 5 mile outdoor paths every single day for the past 2 and a half weeks and my appetite fukn skyrocketed.. im not really that worried.. but i did skip my refeed day today :(

[UCD20]

Okay so I just tried PROMAX bar0 in black forest cake

AAND OMFG IT TASTED SO ****ING GOOD

[uhockey]

ate a total of 4 sustain bars yesterday. ****ed up my macros but goddamn they are good, thank u DS

LoL.....we shall try to make them less incredible in the future.

[asac1]

MET-RX MUD PIE FUSION

I have had my share of protien bars, and out them all there is one that I would recommend you try: MET-RX MUD PIE FUSION, it dosen't taste gritty, dosen't taste like someone dipped it in artificial sweetner, just tastes gooood.

TRY IT CANT BE BEAT,

nutritional facts found here: http://www.metrx.com/Labels/014621.pdf


Oh yeah? ... what do YOU call succralose?

[suspek24]

I used to really like Detour bars, in fact they were rated as best tasting by Muscle and Fitness. Now I really like the Muscle Milk Protein bars now. I also really like there Ready to Drink protein shakes as well.

Full of saturated fat, you might as well just drink a glass or two of milk, it'd be healthier for you.

[onepoint]

my box of vanilla almond sustain bars came yesterday. after considering some of the responses in this thread, i placed an order a few days ago. on a scale of 1-10, i'd stretch to rate them a 6, due solely to the ingredients and nutritional profile.

the taste and texture were, quite frankly, bad. the texture was "chalky" (for lack of a better description), and the taste just wasn't what i was expecting.. bland, and for the life of me i couldn't sense a trace of neither vanilla nor almond. i found myself forcing the second 1/2 of the bar down. needless to say, i'm not very excited about the rest of the box.

not wanting to throw in the towel entirely, is the peanut butter fudge much better? perhaps i'm asking for a miracle in a bar that has satisfactory ingredients and nutrition, while tasting along the lines of some of the PureProtein or OhYeah! bars.

[ZDub212]

Full of saturated fat, you might as well just drink a glass or two of milk, it'd be healthier for you.

Saturated fat isn't bad for you.

[ccs77]

perhaps i'm asking for a miracle in a bar that has satisfactory ingredients and nutrition, while tasting along the lines of some of the PureProtein or OhYeah! bars.

I take the pure protien bars...am I missing the boat and taking a crappy protien bar??? They taste so good and are easy to get down in the afternoon. I'm not a nutrition expert by any means, but I thought they would be good judging by the nutrition table on the box.

[onepoint]

I take the pure protien bars...am I missing the boat and taking a crappy protien bar??? They taste so good and are easy to get down in the afternoon. I'm not a nutrition expert by any means, but I thought they would be good judging by the nutrition table on the box.

i guess when comparing to the nutritional profile/ingredients of the sustain bars they might be 'crappy' but all in all i think they're pretty good. i would rather eat a PureProtein bar than the Sustain bars i have sitting in my bedroom, however.

[ZDub212]

I take the pure protien bars...am I missing the boat and taking a crappy protien bar??? They taste so good and are easy to get down in the afternoon. I'm not a nutrition expert by any means, but I thought they would be good judging by the nutrition table on the box.

Yes, you are taking a crappy protein bars. Garbage ingredients, garbage protein, garbage fats, and a garbage carb source.


i guess when comparing to the nutritional profile/ingredients of the sustain bars they might be 'crappy' but all in all i think they're pretty good. i would rather eat a PureProtein bar than the Sustain bars i have sitting in my bedroom, however.

PureProtein bars are excellent...but the ingredients are crap. Hydrolyzed collagen is the first ingredient...that is a USELESS form of protein.

[ccs77]

Yes, you are taking a crappy protein bars. Garbage ingredients, garbage protein, garbage fats, and a garbage carb source.



PureProtein bars are excellent...but the ingredients are crap. Hydrolyzed collagen is the first ingredient...that is a USELESS form of protein.

reps for the heads up...thank you.

[ZDub212]

reps for the heads up...thank you.

No problem man.

If you want a good bar, go with PBL Omega Bars...they have an awesome profile...same goes for Sustain & VPX ZI. The Universal Hi Bar looks pretty solid as well.

Labrada Lean Body Cookie Bars are delicious...better than the Pure Protein Bars for protein/carbs, although I would only use them for a treat. Here's my review:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2917101

[ccs77]

Where on shelves can the Sustain bars be found or is it better to just order them on line?

[zkid002]

Where on shelves can the Sustain bars be found or is it better to just order them on line?

Same Here, dude. I cant find sustain in stores, and i want to "try it", before ordering a wholee box. Or even seeing it in a store would be nice, and i would buy the whole box. Bottom line is, has anyone seen these in a GNC/Walmart, K-mart/ Publix, anywhere in stores? I mean if the bar is soo good(which everyone says it is, and i believe it), then it should be on shelves.
Also, Zach, do you know where the PBL Omega bar can be found in stores?..or is that an online thing?

[INGENIUM]

Where on shelves can the Sustain bars be found or is it better to just order them on line?
they are only sold online

[ccs77]

they are only sold online

This might be a question for another thread, if so I apologize....where is the best place to by supps and these sorts of things on line? Sorry for being a clueless noob. :)

[INGENIUM]

This might be a question for another thread, if so I apologize....where is the best place to by supps and these sorts of things on line? Sorry for being a clueless noob. :)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/index.html

[ccs77]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/index.html

Well looky there...BB.com is good for all kinds of things! Thanks man.

[dvsness]

not wanting to throw in the towel entirely, is the peanut butter fudge much better?

I really liked the PB Fudge refrigerated and the Vanilla Almond microwaved for a few seconds. They are both flavored mildly, but I enjoyed them.

[norcal_SAV]

by far the best tasting bar PRO SOURCE- SUPREME PROTEIN BARS
meal replacment? ZERO IMPACT BAR

[IrockZ]

by far the best tasting bar PRO SOURCE- SUPREME PROTEIN BARS
meal replacment? ZERO IMPACT BAR

supreme protein bars are in a leaguye of their own in terms of taste.. but they're a bitch to find now too always out of stock online, and 7-11s only recieve like one box of them at a time..

[GetShredded]

I purchased both VPX Zero Impact Pumpkin Supreme and Sustain PB bars. Probably will write a head to head review when I have time. Both are very good. I believe Sustain is more for a snack and VPX is if you can't get a meal in.

I wanted to ask DR. Hockey a question. If the bars just put into standard packages and not boxes wouldn't you be able to drop the price on them? I know alot of people like it but I was just wondering.

[suspek24]

Saturated fat isn't bad for you.

Saturdated fat increases bad cholesterol in your blood

[UncleMixer]

I purchased both VPX Zero Impact Pumpkin Supreme and Sustain PB bars. Probably will write a head to head review when I have time. Both are very good. I believe Sustain is more for a snack and VPX is if you can't get a meal in.

I wanted to ask DR. Hockey a question. If the bars just put into standard packages and not boxes wouldn't you be able to drop the price on them? I know alot of people like it but I was just wondering.

the VPX pumpkin bars are pretty heavy on the stomach but they taste alright. Good quality protein bars.

[suspek24]

the VPX pumpkin bars are pretty heavy on the stomach but they taste alright. Good quality protein bars.

I agree, I normally need a glass of water with it too, but sometimes I get some real moist ones that make it easier to get down.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Saturdated fat increases bad cholesterol in your blood
Not necessarily. It's dependant on a number of other factors.

[ItTakesTime]

Not necessarily. It's dependant on a number of other factors.

Agreed, it all depends on your macro breakdown.

[suspek24]

Not necessarily. It's dependant on a number of other factors.


Agreed, it all depends on your macro breakdown.

Both are good to know

[polinutrigirl]

I know this will be unpopular, but I really like the South Beach Meal Replacement Bars. 210 cals, 19 gm. protein and 5-6 gm. fiber each. That is what I look for in a bar. Also, low sugar. I'm a girl, and this forum is very male-dominated, so I am sure this bar is too low in cals and protein for you guys. I know you also hate soy. But they taste really good and have a lot of protein/fiber for the calories. When I go for a bar, I look at calories, protein and fiber. I also check for saturated fat and sugar. Carbs don't really concern me.

[jfla32033]

I know this will be unpopular, but I really like the South Beach Meal Replacement Bars. 210 cals, 19 gm. protein and 5-6 gm. fiber each. That is what I look for in a bar. Also, low sugar. I'm a girl, and this forum is very male-dominated, so I am sure this bar is too low in cals and protein for you guys. I know you also hate soy. But they taste really good and have a lot of protein/fiber for the calories. When I go for a bar, I look at calories, protein and fiber. I also check for saturated fat and sugar. Carbs don't really concern me.


yea i can see your point here....if i were a girl i would probably go with this over the vpx zero impact unless i was a very big girl haha